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The Fifth Hour: Media Row with Shawne Merriman! · The Ben Maller Show

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  Speaker 1: Kutbooms.
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  Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
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  Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
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  Speaker 2: of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He
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  Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
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  Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to Clearinghouse of
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  Speaker 2: hot takes, break free for something Special. The Fifth Hour
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  Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: In the air, Amyware The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben
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  Speaker 3: Mahler and Danny g Radio A Happy Friday to you.
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  Speaker 3: We are plausibly live from Radio Row in San Francisco
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  Speaker 3: for Super Bowl sixty.
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  Speaker 4: On Sunday. I made my way to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: We did the show the last couple of nights from
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  Speaker 3: a secret remote studio far away, watching not that far
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  Speaker 3: away from Radio Row. And then during the day come
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  Speaker 3: in here and hang out and yappity yappity app got
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  Speaker 3: here several hours ago. Is wandering around having some fun,
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  Speaker 3: and oh what fun it is with different people that
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen in a long time here at Radio Row.
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  Speaker 3: As we hang out together. So we're gonna talk in
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  Speaker 3: a few minutes. We're gonna have Sean Merriman, the former
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  Speaker 3: Charger players, the defensive rookie of the Year in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL many many years ago for the old San Diego Chargers,
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  Speaker 3: and he is scheduled to stop by. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: the super Bowl and who knows, So who else is
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  Speaker 3: going to pop up here? As we're just kind of
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  Speaker 3: hanging out, people are wandering by and it's quite the scene.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's got an entourage. It's a dog and pony show
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  Speaker 3: as it always is. And my favorite part is how
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  Speaker 3: important everyone thinks they are. That is what I love.
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  Speaker 3: I can't get enough of it. And people just strolling
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  Speaker 3: around like don't you know who I am? And there's dogs,
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  Speaker 3: there's people with puppets. It is the ultimate dog and
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  Speaker 3: pony show. As we hang out here now, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to mention some of the some of the storylines
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  Speaker 3: for this game, which I think we all know at
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  Speaker 3: this point.
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  Speaker 4: The storylines, but the ones that we.
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  Speaker 3: Talked about us on Benny Versus the Penny, which is
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube Benny Vspenny. The matchup which is the public
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  Speaker 3: and we talked about the on the YouTube show Benny
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  Speaker 3: Versus the Penny at Benny Vspenny, but the matchup which
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  Speaker 3: is the public loves Seattle laying the four and a
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  Speaker 3: half points, and yet the wise guys, the professional gamblers,
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  Speaker 3: they're on the side of the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a there's a pretty big split here.
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  Speaker 3: The only storyline that's gotten a ton of attention has
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  Speaker 3: been Sam Donald and whether or not this is the
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  Speaker 3: ultimate redemption story. I saw one headline and said the
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  Speaker 3: greatest redemption in sports history as Sam Donald tries to
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  Speaker 3: get her.
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  Speaker 1: Done and win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what side I'm on, much to the
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  Speaker 3: dismay of No streudenas it is a conundrum my position
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  Speaker 3: on that.
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  Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens on Sun with the game.
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  Speaker 3: Also, the other part of it, Drake May, is this
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  Speaker 3: about to kickstart a Patriot dynasty? As Drake May returns
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  Speaker 3: to to form. It is National bubblegum Day. We like
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  Speaker 3: to celebrate the wacky holidays. Today is National bubble Gum.
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  Speaker 3: Bubblegum Day and the first attempt at bubble gum was
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  Speaker 3: back in nineteen o six. The great Frank Fleer invented
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  Speaker 3: the first bubble gum. However, it was not successful. It
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  Speaker 3: was too sticky. Turned out to be too sticky. He
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  Speaker 3: might have seen that in the movie or two. Over
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  Speaker 3: the years. It was short lived. It was called Blibber.
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  Speaker 3: Blubber was the first bubble gum, and then it was
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  Speaker 3: about one hundred years ago, we're coming up one hundredth anniversary,
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  Speaker 3: nineteen twenty eight, double Bubble. They figured it out some
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  Speaker 3: guy that worked at the Fleer Corporation, not Frank. He
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  Speaker 3: screwed up with this guy Walter, and he came up
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  Speaker 3: with the first marketable version of bubblegum, which was eventually
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  Speaker 3: became duble Bubble.
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  Speaker 1: That was the beginning of it, and he I love
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  Speaker 1: the story.
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  Speaker 3: The story very similar to the donut story that we
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  Speaker 3: talked about in a previous episode of The Fifth Hour
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  Speaker 3: long ago. That the reason bubble gum is pink and
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  Speaker 3: we think of bubble gum as pink is because the
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  Speaker 3: guy that made the first successful bubblegum, this guy Walter,
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  Speaker 3: used pink dye because that's all.
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  Speaker 1: That he had available. That was it.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like the donut boxes. Bakery boxes are pink.
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  Speaker 3: The reason they're pink is because the people that made
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  Speaker 3: the donuts in southern California, they could get that paper
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  Speaker 3: cheaper because it was actually it was supposed to be red,
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  Speaker 3: and then the color was off a little bit. And
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  Speaker 3: it's like when nobody really wanted pink boxes, and so
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  Speaker 3: they got those at a discount rate. And thus bake
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  Speaker 3: goods are supposed to be in a pink box. And
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  Speaker 3: so bubble gum. They could have gone purple, they could
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  Speaker 3: have gone blue. There's a couple of different directions. They
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  Speaker 3: could have gone for the bubble gum, but they chose
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  Speaker 3: to go with the pink because that's all they had
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  Speaker 3: at the time. That's it, that's all, and so they
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  Speaker 3: went for it. Now, one of the other things here
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  Speaker 3: is we get back to the Fifth Hour podcast. Here
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  Speaker 3: as the Seahawks and Patriots on Sunday, and there's people
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  Speaker 3: walking around staring at me right now, which I absolutely
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't get enough of that. I'm all about that action, boss.
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  Speaker 3: But meanwhile, the Seahawks at four and a half to five,
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  Speaker 3: depending on which sportsbook you look at. I think on
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  Speaker 3: DraftKings last I checked, there a four and a half
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  Speaker 3: point favorite. Dating back to Super Bowl thirty, so thirty
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  Speaker 3: years there have been sixteen Super Bowls that have ended
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  Speaker 3: up with a spread of four and a half or
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  Speaker 3: more so, it's happened sixteen times, and the underdog is
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  Speaker 3: twelve too and two against the spread in those games.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the deal on that. And they've covered seven
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  Speaker 3: in a row. So that tells you what has happened,
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  Speaker 3: not what's going to happen. But if you look at it,
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  Speaker 3: the last few times a team has been favored with
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  Speaker 3: the spread of four and a half or more, you
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  Speaker 3: get the Benals back in the Super Bowl against the
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  Speaker 3: Rams and they covered the spread on that Rams won
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  Speaker 3: Eagles in Super Bowl fifty two against the Patriots, they
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  Speaker 3: won that game by over a touchdown, and he had
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos with Peyton Manning, although he didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 4: In that game against Carolina and Cam Newton.
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  Speaker 3: So those are some of the recent Super Bowls where
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  Speaker 3: a team has been favored the underdog has ended up
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  Speaker 3: coming out ahead.
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  Speaker 4: All right right now making their way over here.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a Sean Merriman, better known by his nickname
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  Speaker 3: lights Out, who played in the NFL for the Chargers.
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  Speaker 3: Came into the NFL in five for the old San
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  Speaker 3: Diego Chargers and then ended up finishing his career. Finished
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  Speaker 3: his career fourteen years ago in Buffalo it spent a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years in Buffalo. I think he was hurt
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  Speaker 3: most of that time, but he was the defensive rookie
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  Speaker 3: of the Year and the Pro Bowl back when that mattered,
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  Speaker 3: they actually tried to play in the Pro Bowl, made
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  Speaker 3: it all Pro team. And we welcome in now the
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  Speaker 3: man known as lights out. We welcome in Sean Merriman.
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  Speaker 3: And Sean, why don't we start with this. I just
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  Speaker 3: saw you ran into Coveno and rich over there. Uh
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  Speaker 3: and and there was a handshake.
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  Speaker 1: Delio.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what that was all about. Sean,
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  Speaker 3: can you explain? Can you walk me through what exactly
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  Speaker 3: took place there? As there were there were cameras out,
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  Speaker 3: there were people posing give me the inside skinny on.
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  Speaker 5: That we go back from from the media days. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: well we got we got this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We always used to mess up the handshake. Okay, we
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  Speaker 5: couldn't get it right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for years, every time I seen him, we always
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  Speaker 5: mess up the handshake.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what that was. Just now we got handshaked down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I captured the moment when when Sean was coming over
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  Speaker 3: with there was the there was a pause. They pulled
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  Speaker 3: out the camera and then the handshake. Yeah we got
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  Speaker 3: it right on stuff right, So you.
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  Speaker 1: Do this every year, Radio Rod.
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  Speaker 5: This is your thing here, it is man and for me,
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  Speaker 5: you of being a retired guy, you get a chance
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  Speaker 5: to see some of the guys you play with. Sure,
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  Speaker 5: sure some of the ones you played against and share
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  Speaker 5: those old stories and things like that. But most importantly,
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  Speaker 5: like you know, seeing some of the young guys like
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  Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson. I never met him in person, and you
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  Speaker 5: know when he came to me and said he was
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  Speaker 5: a big and I told him I was a fan.
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  Speaker 5: He said he was a big fan. So you don't
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  Speaker 5: know how much the younger guys watch the older So
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  Speaker 5: it's always cool to come across you know, guys like that.
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  Speaker 3: What's your on the scale of one to ten, what's
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  Speaker 3: your level in the Super Bowl? Because I've only been
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  Speaker 3: here a couple of days, but I've been here, Like
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  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of buzz about it where you at.
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  Speaker 5: But but you know why because if the star quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: aren't you know, there's no Patrick Mahomes for the first
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  Speaker 5: time in how many years, no Joe Burrow. There's nobody
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  Speaker 5: that the you know, public is excited about sure, But
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  Speaker 5: to me being a former player, there's a lot of stories,
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  Speaker 5: like a lot of cool stuff in this game.
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  Speaker 1: So I like it.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, I think the NFL needs it,
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  Speaker 5: do you really? But what light needs to be shined
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  Speaker 5: somewhere else? Because you know that Joe Burrow's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: back to make Josh Allen's gonna be back to me,
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  Speaker 5: all those guys are coming.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I got you. I got you.
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  Speaker 4: So six seven a scale.
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  Speaker 1: Of one to ten, where are you I'm at it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm at a seven seven. I'm a little lower. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little really, man, how low I'm like in a five.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's just kind of five.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. I'm just said a five.
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  Speaker 3: So you have well, I need this, like the personalities,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't feel like we have that, and some
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  Speaker 3: of these guys could become that, but right now, that's
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  Speaker 3: to me, that's the secret ingredient that's missing. We've always
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  Speaker 3: had even you mentioned the quarterbacks, but we've had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's obviously he's got his own whole entertainment thing
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  Speaker 3: going on. There's always been other people too that have
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  Speaker 3: been stars. I don't really get that sense.
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean you look on both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 5: There's not one star. Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 5: not taking a shot at anybody. Yeah, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: Sam Donald's played for five teams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's first time since Chris Chandler somebody's played on
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  Speaker 3: five teams and then made the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Almost never happen.
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  Speaker 1: Almost never happened. Yeah. Again, we talked about storylines. I
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  Speaker 1: like that point.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, are you buying Sam Donald's redemption story or is
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  Speaker 3: this are we getting ahead of ourselves on that he's
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  Speaker 3: now arrived and he's gonna be a good quarterback for
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  Speaker 3: the next five years in the NFL. You can just
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  Speaker 3: forget about worry about Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna find out because you know he's folded in
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  Speaker 5: big situations before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right, And I think the Patriots one of the best
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  Speaker 5: defenses he's going to see. And we know that when
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  Speaker 5: Sam Donald gets hit, he gets inaccurate, he starts making mistakes,
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  Speaker 5: turn the ball over and so and the Patriots can
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  Speaker 5: do that.
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  Speaker 1: So well, we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: But if he does, I think it may go down
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  Speaker 5: as one of the greatest stories ever because he's gotten
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  Speaker 5: out of the locker room or the building, out of
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  Speaker 5: all these other franchises and found a way to win
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  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: So this will probably, I would think, is going to
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  Speaker 3: inspire if he does. If they do get it done right,
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  Speaker 3: every quarterback that's been bounced around like a fruitcake at Christmas,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to end up keep They're gonna keep you
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  Speaker 3: in work.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: This is the copycat league.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's what they said.
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  Speaker 3: So this copy oft and all that. What about the Patriots?
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  Speaker 3: Now they played historically. I know you've Albay talked about
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  Speaker 3: it this week, but the easiest schedule, like arguably since
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  Speaker 3: the seventies.
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  Speaker 4: As a player, does.
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  Speaker 3: That factor in when you know you get to the
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  Speaker 3: end of the year here that you didn't really get
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  Speaker 3: tested that much?
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  Speaker 1: Man, you know, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: It's easy for other people to say about schedule being easy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: as a player, we know that the wrong team and
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  Speaker 5: the right day wake up and they want to play,
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  Speaker 5: they can they can beat you.
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  Speaker 1: So we never looked at it like that.
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  Speaker 5: Now, if you got a less qualified or less competitive team,
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  Speaker 5: you can say that. But when they say easy, I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 5: that dude over there across from you, it's still was
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  Speaker 5: as big ten, all Big ten or all acc and
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  Speaker 5: you know, probably a Pro Bowl player as well. So
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  Speaker 5: it's like, I don't look at it as being easy anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: When you talk about the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Now, one of the other stys this week, people are
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  Speaker 3: freaking out because Tom Brady did not endorse the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on you? You played for
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, mister charge.
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  Speaker 3: If the Chargers got to the Super Bowl next year,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe you were working for some other NFL team
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  Speaker 3: or something, what would your position be on on that?
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  Speaker 5: If you're Tom, what can you do? You own part
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  Speaker 5: of a team that's any AFC. You're also a broadcaster,
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  Speaker 5: so you have to remain neutral.
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  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, And so well, plus he's
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  Speaker 3: hiring the Seahawks offensive coordinator. Everyone seems to think that
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be the head coach of the Raiders,
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  Speaker 3: so he's got too Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But look at it if you're Tom in Tom position,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't say I'm rooting against him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, well, but he didn't. By not saying it,
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  Speaker 1: he obviously is like I get it, and I understand.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that Tom still has love for the
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  Speaker 5: Patriots and the Patriots fans and stuff like that, but
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  Speaker 5: he's stuck in business wise, he's stuck in a very
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  Speaker 5: very difficult position to be rooting for a team that
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  Speaker 5: you against, you own part up in the.
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  Speaker 1: A SEC.
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  Speaker 5: And also you're broadcaster that has to remain neutral when
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's getting buried by the way these people
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  Speaker 3: are like, oh my god, it's like the Patriot people
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  Speaker 3: are not happy.
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  Speaker 5: Look, if God forbid, if I go own a part
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  Speaker 5: of you know, the Buffalo Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody know that I'm a Chargers for life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's about the Buffalo Bills and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: As al as the Church, I know they've been in
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  Speaker 4: LA a while now.
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  Speaker 3: I started in radio in San Diego with the.
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  Speaker 4: In the nineties when they got They had good teams
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  Speaker 4: back then.
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  Speaker 3: But how have you justin It's crazy to me there's
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  Speaker 3: still the La Charges.
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  Speaker 1: It was awkward.
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  Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a shock early on,
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  Speaker 5: especially when he was in stub Hub, the.
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  Speaker 1: Smaller the soccer stadium before he moved up. That was weird.
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  Speaker 1: That was awkward. Yeah, that was that was weird.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when they got to lay they drafted Justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like they rebuilt the fan base again with
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  Speaker 5: just more LA style.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's gonna take a while though, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it takes years to do that.
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  Speaker 5: Even if you do, LA is still a melting pot
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  Speaker 5: for everybody. Yeah, so you're gonna have Denver Bronco jerseys
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  Speaker 5: out there. You're gonna have Kana City jersey. God for bid.
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  Speaker 5: They played a still as you can forget about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's over.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a still at home game. I was at
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  Speaker 4: that the game, and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was more terrible towels and swinging around. Don't know
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  Speaker 1: there were that many these Pittsburgh people in l A.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea that there were little people.
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  Speaker 4: It's wild craziness.
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  Speaker 3: Now as far as back to the Super Bowl, So
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  Speaker 3: Drake may breakthrough a season this year?
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  Speaker 4: You know, are you buying that?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Is? This?
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  Speaker 4: Is this one going to be in the upper echelon
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  Speaker 4: for the next couple of years?
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  Speaker 3: Are we going to hear the name Drake May in
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  Speaker 3: the upper crust of quarterbacks or was this more of
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  Speaker 3: an aberration this you?
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  Speaker 5: In my opinion, I'm not with this this new school
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  Speaker 5: of crowning guys off of having one good year. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just not more. I gotta see more. And then
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  Speaker 5: he has two and three years. Then I was starting
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  Speaker 5: to categorize him as that top at that top tier
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  Speaker 5: quarterback and this maybe this is the the athlete me
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  Speaker 5: seeing the younger guy coming in like I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 5: not giving you credit.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta earn it. Yeah. Yeah, but I.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: Do think that, you know, all the other guys have
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: more years and experience. Then to put him up there
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: just because he had a really good year.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Isn't that some of his changes?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like in the last five or ten years,
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: like guys have gotten massive contracts before they've actually established
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: themselves as big time legit guys.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah you agree that one.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, even like Trevor Lawrence. I know
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Jackson Well haught to get you this year, but he
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: was really wobbly.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: He got paid big honey.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: And by the way, I was wrong in that because
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I was one of the one of the loudest ones saying,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: how was he gonna get fifty plus million a year?
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they haven't won anything. Yeah, And he came back
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: and they had a really good season. But again that's
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: just kind of where the where the market is now,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: so you can't really go against that.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about now you look around and the money
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: flying around in the NFL and all that. The salary cap.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I'm a salary cap truther. I think it's vugazy. You
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: as a former player, like I can think of manipulate
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: the numbers and all that if they want, But what's
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: your position?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Well that's what the gms are there for.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: Assistant gms them punching the calculators.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are to try to figure out the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: wiggle rum and what you can do. But the salary
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: cap just went up again. Yeah, yeah, every year it
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: goes up.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: But this is my biggest problem with the salary cap
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: is there's such a big gap between the quarterback position
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: and everybody else.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: That part.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I think they need to they need to figure out quick.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: What will you you're the commission what are you going
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: to do? Though?
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: I separate them where the quarterback paid don't go against
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: the Cali salary.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Cap, so they have their own class.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: That's what I would do because I just don't play
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: in the game, and I played with Philip Rivers.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I played with great quarterback.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I just think that there's more to it than just
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: one player, right, and that one player, as great as
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: he can be, I can't really reach the pinnacle without
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: having other great players around them, or players who are
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: capable of making plays. I think they should separate their
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: salary cap.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: To somewhere else. They can do it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: They do what they want, right, They manipulated all that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Philip Urbs came back this year. That was that was interesting.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Did you talk to him at all that you give
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: me any advice?
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: We uh, you know, I just was talking to Breeze
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: over there so doing Antonio Gates's Hall of Fame induction
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: and canton We were all together, Me, Gates, uh Ladani
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: and Thomas, He and Drew United.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all circled up in my Phil.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: We were all circled up and talking and you just
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: felt from Phil because he's always animated and passion like
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: when he's talking, he's it's like he can he's elevated.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was talking in the present sense
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of still football.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And I didn't understand it at the time because we
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: all all of us like, yeah, you remember the time
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: we we it wasn't a conversation like that with Peel,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: so I wasn't.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised when he came back.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, and uh, I guess the quarter and they don't
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: call guys like you do they.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, these only quarterbacks.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: And I feel like, no, there's really maybe offensive line,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: maybe offensive line.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: But maybe offensive line, but also too probably you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: maybe five or six years after I retired, I still
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: probably could have came back and played.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now you start getting beyond that. It's just not safe.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: You feel your age now?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, in the football ways, yeah, you know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: And I feel great now and I want to keep
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: I'm going to keep it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Look like you're an amazing Shay. I feel like it
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: until I get out there. Yeah yeah, I got you. Now.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: As far as the Chargers in general, your former team.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: There another playoff team, but they didn't get it done
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And it's starting to become a pattern
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: with the quarterback.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Is that is that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Legit he's got to he's got to get it done
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and he's not.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: The thing is justin Herbert is always gonna have that
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: dark cloud over him until he gets to the next level.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: And the reason why is because he's more than capable
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: of doing it. But they've had some unforeseen circumstances with injuries.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: And I'm not even used as an excuse because if
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: you have one or two guys to go down, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: for several weeks and they come back and play. They've
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: had their main guys, the two best tackles in football
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: go down for the year.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're Jim Hollbuck and you're playing all
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: these plays and all this, you're putting everything in before
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: the season started, your two best offensive players go down
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: outside of Justin Herbert, they go down.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: That's hard to figure out.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it is. It is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: They got a new offensive coordinator now, the former Dolphins
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: coach is coming in, so we'll see they're gonna change
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the offense dramatically.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You think this year, Yeah, for sure.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: And I don't want to take a shot at Great
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Grumman at all because I think he's a good run
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: game coordinator.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I think he's really good passing out so much, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: the passing not so much. And I think that Mike
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: McDaniels offered them, you know, that level of explosion that
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: they need. I mean, they didn't have a bunch of
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: big plays this.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Year, gotcha? Gotcha?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: And now as far as the Super Bowl, and I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: sure you've passed a million times, this week will be
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: the latest to ask you prediction.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Do we have a prediction? Who do you think it's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: going to be the champion at the end of Sunday night.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going with Seattle.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: And then it's easier to say Seattle because on paper
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: they're fit.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Right, you think it'll be closer, you think I think
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: the first half is going to be closed. In one
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: thing that a lot of people are not talking about
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: enough this game is the special teams Yeah of Seattle.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: When you got when you got a special teams group
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: who can we got a special teams group who can score?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It changes the game.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: One one block punt is somebody return o return kickoff
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: or return punt changes everything about a football game.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: And that's if it's close.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: And and that's why I think that Seattle can start
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: to separate them and I think they'll win by ten.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 20:16
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• 20:19
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• 20:22
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• 20:24
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• 20:27
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• 20:30
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• 20:36
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• 20:43
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• 20:45
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• 20:47
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• 20:50
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming out. I appreciate it.
• 20:51
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• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I gotta go.