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- 0:13Speaker 1: You can't look at the water and at the sea
- 0:15Speaker 1: without remembering what happened to George. It's got too many
- 0:20Speaker 1: bad memories for me now.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Oh, I miss him.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I miss him every day.
- 0:27Speaker 3: I miss his voice.
- 0:28Speaker 1: I miss his phone calls.
- 0:29Speaker 4: He called me all the time.
- 0:30Speaker 1: I just miss him as a son.
- 0:37Speaker 5: Pretty much every night I go to bed, I see
- 0:40Speaker 5: his face.
- 0:45Speaker 6: No parent should have to lose their son that way.
- 0:52Speaker 7: This is Captain Michael. May I get your attention, please?
- 0:55Speaker 7: A person may have gone overboard last night.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that my
- 1:05Speaker 1: son was murdered on that cruise ship. There's so much evidence.
- 1:10Speaker 4: It's overwhelming.
- 1:12Speaker 6: It's just been a complete and awful nightmare for my family.
- 1:17Speaker 6: And we still do not have justice for George.
- 1:22Speaker 8: The first suspect is the surviving spouse.
- 1:25Speaker 6: She said she couldn't remember anything.
- 1:27Speaker 8: Eyebrows started to go up about, well, what exactly did
- 1:29Speaker 8: Jennifer know?
- 1:31Speaker 7: But the FBI soon turned its attention from George Smith's
- 1:34Speaker 7: widow to a group of young men the last people
- 1:39Speaker 7: to see George alive.
- 1:44Speaker 6: There were sounds of a fight, a struggle inside my
- 1:48Speaker 6: brother's room.
- 1:51Speaker 9: I heard some males arguing on the balcony.
- 2:00Speaker 8: What we're trying to do is sort through the facts
- 2:02Speaker 8: and figure out what happened that night because unfortunately this
- 2:05Speaker 8: has become Pretty much a cold case. While on the cruise,
- 2:08Speaker 8: did you meet George Smith IV? There was a series
- 2:11Speaker 8: of questions that I asked in each of the depositions
- 2:13Speaker 8: of each of the boys. Do you know what happened
- 2:16Speaker 8: to George Smith? Were you present when George Smith went overboard?
- 2:20Speaker 8: Did you kill George Smith?
- 2:21Speaker 2: Something crazy went down that night. And I hope one
- 2:25Speaker 2: day that they find out the truth.
- 2:29Speaker 10: A 48 Hours investigation has uncovered failed polygraphs, questionable alibis,
- 2:36Speaker 10: And a provocative video made by some of the men
- 2:39Speaker 10: just hours after George Smith disappeared.
- 2:43Speaker 8: On the videotape, you've got them joking about George's death,
- 2:46Speaker 8: very callous and at one point incriminating.
- 2:51Speaker 6: I just can't comprehend that someone could snatch my brother
- 2:55Speaker 6: from a cruise ship, throw him on an overhang. and
- 3:00Speaker 6: dies alone in the water, and then nothing's done about it.
- 3:03Speaker 6: The evidence is huge. Why hasn't someone been arrested?
- 3:36Speaker 1: Sometimes you still think, ah, he might be still out
- 3:38Speaker 1: there because we don't have a body.
- 3:41Speaker 3: We don't have a body.
- 3:44Speaker 1: It doesn't get any easier. And you know what? If
- 3:47Speaker 1: we had our answers for George and know what happened, maybe.
- 3:53Speaker 1: We don't know.
- 3:54Speaker 7: For 10 years, Maureen and George Smith have been tormented,
- 3:59Speaker 7: They don't know what happened to their 26-year-old son aboard
- 4:03Speaker 7: that cruise ship.
- 4:05Speaker 1: We have to just keep pushing the buttons and we
- 4:07Speaker 1: won't let it go. It's our son.
- 4:10Speaker 7: It wasn't supposed to be this way. George Smith IV
- 4:14Speaker 7: had seemed destined to have it all.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Fine young man, handsome, hardworking. He was just an all-round
- 4:23Speaker 1: great kid.
- 4:24Speaker 5: He was the funniest guy, you know. I would sit
- 4:27Speaker 5: and have a couple beers with him, and he'd make
- 4:29Speaker 5: me laugh for the whole night. And besides, he was
- 4:31Speaker 5: so good-looking, the girls just fell all over him.
- 4:35Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun.
- 4:37Speaker 5: He was just a great guy.
- 4:40Speaker 7: George was about to take over his father's liquor store
- 4:43Speaker 7: in Greenwich, Connecticut.
- 4:44Speaker 5: George made the store. He was much more of a
- 4:47Speaker 5: lively guy than I and loved to talk, and he
- 4:50Speaker 5: had that gusto in him, and he really wanted to
- 4:52Speaker 5: take the store and build it.
- 4:53Speaker 7: Stop by today. This is George working alongside his father
- 4:58Speaker 7: in a local commercial.
- 5:00Speaker 5: He always called me the old man because I wasn't
- 5:02Speaker 5: into modern tools and techniques like he was. So I
- 5:05Speaker 5: was the old man. I was the dinosaur they had
- 5:07Speaker 5: to deal with.
- 5:10Speaker 7: George's future seemed even brighter when he met Jennifer Hagel,
- 5:14Speaker 7: an aspiring schoolteacher.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed with her because she had this dynamic personality.
- 5:21Speaker 1: She was very fun-loving like him, very attractive, and he
- 5:25Speaker 1: was very happy with her.
- 5:28Speaker 7: After a three-year courtship, George and Jennifer were married in
- 5:34Speaker 7: a ceremony overlooking the sea.
- 5:37Speaker 6: It was a really lavish affair in Newport, Rhode Island.
- 5:40Speaker 6: It was a storybook wedding.
- 5:42Speaker 11: It was absolutely beautiful.
- 5:44Speaker 7: George's older sister Bree remembers the day very well and
- 5:48Speaker 7: how excited they were to go on their honeymoon.
- 5:51Speaker 6: They were so excited to be starting their life together
- 5:54Speaker 6: and they couldn't wait to start their cruise.
- 5:57Speaker 5: I can remember shaking his hand in the street and
- 6:00Speaker 5: saying goodbye to him.
- 6:01Speaker 6: No one could ever imagine that just less than two
- 6:05Speaker 6: weeks later George would be missing.
- 6:09Speaker 7: In late June 2005, Royal Caribbean's Brilliance of the Seas
- 6:14Speaker 7: set sail from Barcelona. The footage you see is from
- 6:19Speaker 7: a sister ship. Fellow honeymooners Paul and Galina Kvitnitsky were
- 6:25Speaker 7: on board with the Smiths.
- 6:27Speaker 11: We sat down next to one another, and since the
- 6:29Speaker 11: first day, we became acquainted.
- 6:32Speaker 7: The couples hit it off immediately.
- 6:35Speaker 3: They were really great.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I mean, they were just very normal, down-to-earth.
- 6:38Speaker 6: Happy people.
- 6:39Speaker 11: I would say we spent a lot of time together.
- 6:41Speaker 2: They loved the sights.
- 6:42Speaker 11: I remember they were taking a lot of pictures.
- 6:43Speaker 8: Like, everywhere they went, they were, like, always with the camera.
- 6:46Speaker 7: And back on the ship, they socialized into the early
- 6:49Speaker 7: morning hours.
- 6:50Speaker 11: I think he enjoyed himself a lot, you know, having
- 6:53Speaker 11: a drink or two.
- 6:54Speaker 2: He didn't have a good tolerance for alcohol.
- 6:56Speaker 4: Like, you could see he would have, like, four beers, and,
- 6:59Speaker 4: you know, you could see that he was pretty much drunk.
- 7:02Speaker 7: Around midnight on July 5th, the two couples headed for
- 7:05Speaker 7: the casino. It would be the last night of George's life. Jennifer,
- 7:14Speaker 7: who's seen here on casino security cameras, spent much of
- 7:18Speaker 7: her time at the blackjack table. And George, who was
- 7:22Speaker 7: also captured on tape, headed for his usual spot at
- 7:26Speaker 7: the craps table.
- 7:28Speaker 11: He was just having fun at the table, and you
- 7:31Speaker 11: could see that right away.
- 7:33Speaker 7: George was soon joined at the table by another shipboard acquaintance,
- 7:37Speaker 7: California college student Josh Askin. 48 Hours spoke to Josh...
- 7:43Speaker 7: in 2006.
- 7:45Speaker 4: Hung out with them for a little bit. Nothing too in-depth.
- 7:49Speaker 12: Jennifer played a little blackjack, played a little craps with George.
- 7:52Speaker 12: There were a lot of other people around as well
- 7:54Speaker 12: who we'd met on the cruise so far.
- 7:58Speaker 7: And a group of Russian-American students were also making the
- 8:02Speaker 7: rounds that night. Cousins Zachary and Greg Rosenberg and their
- 8:07Speaker 7: friend Rusty Kaufman. Josh had met them on the cruise
- 8:11Speaker 7: as well.
- 8:12Speaker 12: Everyone who was over 18 pretty much congregated in the casino.
- 8:17Speaker 4: Everyone was in high spirits.
- 8:19Speaker 7: And George and Jennifer were high rolling. At one point, George,
- 8:23Speaker 7: who's seen here at the casino with Josh, went back
- 8:26Speaker 7: to his own cabin to get extra cash for Jennifer.
- 8:31Speaker 6: I think George looked prosperous. Additionally, had a really nice watch,
- 8:35Speaker 6: which was a Breitling watch, was worth a bit of money.
- 8:38Speaker 7: And Brie Smith wonders if someone on the ship was
- 8:41Speaker 7: getting the wrong idea about her brother.
- 8:44Speaker 6: People may have made assumptions that George was a millionaire,
- 8:47Speaker 6: even though he wasn't.
- 8:49Speaker 7: And one thing that was clear to Paul that night
- 8:52Speaker 7: was that by the time the casino closed, both Jennifer
- 8:55Speaker 7: and George were already drunk.
- 8:59Speaker 11: And I just remember telling him, it's time to call
- 9:01Speaker 11: it a night. It's time to call it a night.
- 9:04Speaker 7: Paul wishes his new friend had listened. Two hours later,
- 9:09Speaker 7: George Smith would be gone. As the sun rose over Kusadasi,
- 9:31Speaker 7: Turkey on July 5, 2005, 16-year-old Emily Rausch stepped onto
- 9:37Speaker 7: her balcony to snap some photos.
- 9:40Speaker 13: It was around 7.30 in the morning, and I noticed
- 9:44Speaker 13: something on the overhang of the lifeboats.
- 9:47Speaker 7: Instead of a spectacular sunrise, Emily's camera captured this, a
- 9:54Speaker 7: huge bloodstain on the lifeboat canopy. This is Emily's account
- 9:58Speaker 7: from back then.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I just assumed that someone had died there.
- 10:03Speaker 7: Security quickly determined the occupants of room 9062 were unaccounted
- 10:08Speaker 7: for and snapped these pictures of the room. And then
- 10:12Speaker 7: they began paging the Smiths.
- 10:15Speaker 4: I had a stateroom attendant outside my room.
- 10:17Speaker 12: And I said, you know, you should probably go into
- 10:19Speaker 12: that guy's room and wake him up because he's not
- 10:22Speaker 12: going to hear that page because he was probably still sleeping.
- 10:26Speaker 7: In another cabin, Paul and Galena were startled by a
- 10:29Speaker 7: visit from ship personnel.
- 10:31Speaker 11: And that's when the guy came in and he said,
- 10:33Speaker 11: have you seen George? And I'm like, what do you mean,
- 10:36Speaker 11: have I seen George?
- 10:37Speaker 8: And we said, what's going on?
- 10:39Speaker 4: And he kind of told us he's missing. We're like, missing?
- 10:42Speaker 7: By now, they had been summoned to guest relations. Jennifer
- 10:46Speaker 7: was also there. she'd been located at the ship's spa
- 10:50Speaker 7: getting a scheduled massage. The crew soon delivered the crushing
- 10:55Speaker 7: news that her new husband, George, was presumed overboard.
- 11:03Speaker 2: She just kept saying that she doesn't remember what happened.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I can't remember.
- 11:06Speaker 8: I can't understand.
- 11:07Speaker 3: I don't remember.
- 11:08Speaker 7: Jennifer said she had almost no memory after leaving the
- 11:12Speaker 7: casino and that when she had awakened in the cabin,
- 11:15Speaker 7: George wasn't there. She had just assumed George stayed with
- 11:20Speaker 7: Paul and Galena.
- 11:21Speaker 4: She's shocked and panicked, and she doesn't understand what's going on.
- 11:25Speaker 3: She just kept saying that.
- 11:26Speaker 11: I want to call my dad, I want to call
- 11:27Speaker 11: my dad.
- 11:28Speaker 7: Half a world away, in Connecticut, the Smiths were trying
- 11:31Speaker 7: to absorb the shock from the call from Jennifer's dad.
- 11:36Speaker 2: It's disbelief.
- 11:37Speaker 5: You know, we just couldn't believe it.
- 11:39Speaker 8: He's got to be on the boat.
- 11:41Speaker 7: But the Smiths had not yet been told about that bloodstain.
- 11:45Speaker 7: or the investigation now underway on the brilliance of the seas.
- 11:50Speaker 7: Turkish police had boarded the ship. Royal Caribbean documented the
- 11:55Speaker 7: forensic investigation. And in the ship's lobby, they rounded up
- 11:59Speaker 7: Josh Askin and the group of Russian-Americans, Rusty Kaufman and
- 12:04Speaker 7: Zach and Greg Rosenberg. They had all partied with George
- 12:09Speaker 7: the night before.
- 12:09Speaker 4: I just didn't know what was going on.
- 12:11Speaker 12: I knew I did nothing wrong, and that's all that
- 12:14Speaker 12: mattered to me.
- 12:15Speaker 7: This video, secretly recorded by Josh's father, shows the police interview.
- 12:20Speaker 7: Rusty Kaufman on the right appears to be shocked when
- 12:24Speaker 7: he hears about the blood. The video only captures snippets
- 12:34Speaker 7: of what has emerged over the years as a very
- 12:38Speaker 7: complex story. A story and a timeline that would be
- 12:42Speaker 7: dissected and debated for years.
- 12:46Speaker 2: The young man's account begins at 2.30 a.m. after the
- 12:48Speaker 2: casino closed.
- 12:49Speaker 9: It was on an.
- 12:49Speaker 12: Elevator to the disco where Josh says he noticed some
- 12:51Speaker 12: odd behavior from casino manager Lloyd Bota. There was maybe
- 13:10Speaker 12: a time when Lloyd, the casino manager, put his arm
- 13:13Speaker 12: around Jennifer and we thought a little awkward moment. It
- 13:16Speaker 12: was just a little awkward for a second.
- 13:19Speaker 7: At the disco, the party was in full swing and
- 13:22Speaker 7: the guys smuggled in a bottle of a potent liquor
- 13:26Speaker 7: called absinthe.
- 13:28Speaker 13: They weren't having shots of absinthe. They weren't having shots.
- 13:31Speaker 7: Albert Diane represents Rusty Kaufman. We spoke to him in 2006,
- 13:36Speaker 7: and Diane says there was tension between George and Jennifer
- 13:41Speaker 7: at the disco.
- 13:43Speaker 13: Rusty does not hear what is being said, but he
- 13:45Speaker 13: does observe Jennifer kick George in his groin.
- 13:50Speaker 7: Jennifer stormed out of the disco. And according to Zach, Rusty,
- 13:55Speaker 7: and Josh, the casino manager followed after her. Josh would
- 13:59Speaker 7: emphatically make this point when questioned by Turkish police later.
- 14:04Speaker 2: She has no idea what happened. She was with another man.
- 14:08Speaker 2: The casino manager would. You need to get him in here.
- 14:13Speaker 7: The men claim they didn't know where Lloyd and Jennifer went,
- 14:16Speaker 7: but by 3.30 a.m., the disco was closing, and George...
- 14:22Speaker 7: was in bad shape.
- 14:23Speaker 12: George was kind of slumped over in a chair. I
- 14:25Speaker 12: asked my buddies, will you help me take him home
- 14:27Speaker 12: real quick?
- 14:28Speaker 13: When they are walking to the cabin, they are literally
- 14:31Speaker 13: carrying George.
- 14:32Speaker 7: At 3.52 a.m., the guys entered the Smiths' cabin. The
- 14:38Speaker 7: ship's key entry log records the time, but Jennifer is
- 14:43Speaker 7: not there.
- 14:48Speaker 13: George all of a sudden expresses a wish to go
- 14:51Speaker 13: search for his wife. And at this time, the boys
- 14:54Speaker 13: are having a loud discussion, debate about whether they should
- 14:59Speaker 13: go and assist George.
- 15:00Speaker 7: The group heads out again, and after a brief search
- 15:03Speaker 7: of the ship's solarium, they return George to his cabin
- 15:08Speaker 7: at 4.01 a.m.
- 15:11Speaker 12: I went to the restroom right when we went in.
- 15:13Speaker 12: I probably saw him for like a minute, 30 seconds.
- 15:16Speaker 13: They actually lay George on his bed take off his shoes,
- 15:20Speaker 13: and he displays a tremendous gratitude towards these young men.
- 15:22Speaker 13: In fact, he hugs and kisses one or two of
- 15:25Speaker 13: these young men.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Just remember, not at one point or no time did
- 15:30Speaker 2: he ever seem angry or anything at all.
- 15:32Speaker 7: But shortly after 4 a.m., passenger Cleet Hyman, a vacationing
- 15:37Speaker 7: deputy police chief, hears a disturbance next door.
- 15:42Speaker 9: My wife and I were awakened by a yelling coming
- 15:44Speaker 9: from the Smith cabin. This yelling sounded what I would
- 15:47Speaker 9: liken to a drinking game.
- 15:49Speaker 7: A few minutes later... Suddenly, though, there was.
- 15:52Speaker 9: An argument out on the Smith balcony. This argument appeared
- 15:57Speaker 9: to be between three, maybe four male individuals.
- 16:00Speaker 7: But Rusty's lawyer insists that the men never went out
- 16:05Speaker 7: on the balcony.
- 16:06Speaker 9: After about two minutes of the argument, we heard one
- 16:09Speaker 9: lone male voice repeatedly say, good night, good night, like
- 16:15Speaker 9: they were ushering someone out of the room. I looked
- 16:18Speaker 9: out and saw three male individuals walking away from the room.
- 16:22Speaker 7: Three males walking away? Then where was the fourth man?
- 16:27Speaker 7: Diane insists all four men left together.
- 16:31Speaker 13: Rusty is a pretty wide type of a young man.
- 16:35Speaker 13: I believe that the witness just failed to observe the
- 16:38Speaker 13: fourth one.
- 16:39Speaker 7: What Cleet Hyman hears next would become the subject of
- 16:43Speaker 7: endless speculation. Was George alone in the room?
- 16:48Speaker 9: At this point, we heard just a lone male voice
- 16:51Speaker 9: in the room. We heard what sounded like the cupboard
- 16:53Speaker 9: doors being closed loudly and also sounded like furniture being moved.
- 17:00Speaker 7: Greg and Pat Lawyer, in the cabin on the other
- 17:03Speaker 7: side of the Smiths, hear something similar. There was what
- 17:07Speaker 7: I call trashing of the room sounds.
- 17:10Speaker 9: I thought somebody was throwing furniture around, either mad or
- 17:13Speaker 9: having a good time, so we dismissed it at that point.
- 17:16Speaker 9: After about two minutes of total silence, however, there was
- 17:19Speaker 9: a large, what I would call a horrific thud.
- 17:23Speaker 7: That thud is believed to be the sound of George
- 17:26Speaker 7: Smith hitting the metal canopy at around 4.30 a.m. About
- 17:31Speaker 7: that same time, Jennifer is found passed out in a hallway.
- 17:36Speaker 7: As for the men, they say they were all back
- 17:39Speaker 7: in their cabin ordering a lion's share of room service.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Room service. We ordered room service.
- 17:46Speaker 13: They were definitely in their own cabin, in Zach's and
- 17:49Speaker 13: Rusty's cabin, ordering food.
- 17:50Speaker 8: At that time.
- 17:51Speaker 7: But as it would turn out, the young men's alibi
- 17:55Speaker 7: would be called into question.
- 17:57Speaker 8: It doesn't hold up at all.
- 18:11Speaker 7: As the details surrounding George Smith's disappearance emerged, so had
- 18:16Speaker 7: speculation about his bride, Jennifer.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Was George murdered?
- 18:20Speaker 8: Was Jennifer somehow involved?
- 18:22Speaker 7: The widow went on Oprah to defend herself.
- 18:25Speaker 11: Not only to lose your memory, but then to have
- 18:27Speaker 11: nobody believe you.
- 18:29Speaker 6: I don't know what happened.
- 18:31Speaker 7: And Jennifer wasn't the only one in the spotlight.
- 18:34Speaker 14: What about the Ruskies in this story, the Russians? What
- 18:36Speaker 14: are these three guys hanging around a honeymoon couple for?
- 18:39Speaker 3: Did he fall overboard?
- 18:41Speaker 8: Was he pushed overboard? They found this big blood stain.
- 18:43Speaker 8: It's a CSI story that keeps unfolding by the day.
- 18:47Speaker 7: The FBI would begin an investigation that would span nine
- 18:51Speaker 7: and a half years. At the time, the ship's captain
- 18:55Speaker 7: described it as a likely accident, theorizing that an intoxicated
- 19:00Speaker 7: George sat on the railing and simply fell off. The
- 19:05Speaker 7: Smiths never bought the accident theory.
- 19:11Speaker 6: The blood is compelling evidence. There was blood in the room.
- 19:16Speaker 7: Photographs taken by Royal Caribbean inside the Smith cabin revealed
- 19:20Speaker 7: two small lines of blood on the bed sheets. The
- 19:25Speaker 7: Smiths say it was George's blood and another sign pointing
- 19:29Speaker 7: to foul play.
- 19:31Speaker 6: In addition to the blood, there were Sounds of a fight,
- 19:35Speaker 6: a struggle inside my brother's room.
- 19:38Speaker 7: The Smiths hoped that getting access to Royal Caribbean's investigative
- 19:42Speaker 7: case files would provide some answers.
- 19:45Speaker 8: So that shows the room.
- 19:46Speaker 7: And they brought on attorney Mike Jones to help them.
- 19:50Speaker 8: Then you got the blood spot. What it's not about
- 19:52Speaker 8: is an accident. And what it's not about is a suicide.
- 19:55Speaker 8: It's about a murder.
- 19:56Speaker 7: Jones immediately got to work, setting his sights on the
- 19:59Speaker 7: ship's documents and the four men last seen with George.
- 20:05Speaker 8: I took Josh Askin's deposition first. Do you know if
- 20:08Speaker 8: George Smith was murdered?
- 20:09Speaker 4: Invoke my Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:11Speaker 8: Do you know who killed George Smith?
- 20:13Speaker 4: Invoke my Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:14Speaker 8: That's a yes or no answer.
- 20:16Speaker 7: Josh Askin took the Fifth.
- 20:18Speaker 4: I invoke my Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:19Speaker 7: On everything.
- 20:20Speaker 4: My Fifth Amendment right. My Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:22Speaker 12: My Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:24Speaker 8: In late June of 2005, did you go on a
- 20:25Speaker 8: Royal Caribbean cruise with your family?
- 20:27Speaker 4: I invoke my Fifth Amendment right.
- 20:29Speaker 3: I had him take the Fifth as to his date
- 20:31Speaker 3: of birth, his name.
- 20:33Speaker 7: Attorney Keith Greer represents Josh Askin.
- 20:37Speaker 15: And so I told him the only way we're going
- 20:38Speaker 15: to do this, Josh, is if every single question you're asked,
- 20:41Speaker 15: you plead the fifth.
- 20:43Speaker 7: Greer says that Josh has always been cooperative, speaking freely
- 20:47Speaker 7: to everyone. But there came a point when he had
- 20:50Speaker 7: to shut him down because the feds were getting aggressive.
- 20:55Speaker 15: And they have told us that if Josh ever says
- 20:58Speaker 15: anything that is different than what he said before in
- 21:03Speaker 15: the grand jury, anything, they will fly him back to Connecticut.
- 21:07Speaker 3: On perjury charges. I couldn't have that happen.
- 21:10Speaker 7: Attorney Albert Diane says Rusty Kaufman got the same treatment
- 21:14Speaker 7: and has stopped cooperating with the FBI.
- 21:17Speaker 13: And the more he wanted to speak with them, the
- 21:19Speaker 13: more he wanted to tell them what happened, the more
- 21:21Speaker 13: they accused him of foul play.
- 21:22Speaker 4: Do you have to bet the truth?
- 21:23Speaker 3: I do.
- 21:24Speaker 7: During his deposition, Rusty Kaufman didn't plead the fifth, but
- 21:28Speaker 7: his memory on a lot of things seemed a bit rusty.
- 21:33Speaker 8: When you say we put him to bed, who put
- 21:34Speaker 8: him in the bed? I.
- 21:37Speaker 8: Don't have a recollection of that right now. Josh said
- 21:40Speaker 8: that he actually used the bathroom at that point. Do
- 21:43Speaker 8: you remember that?
- 21:45Speaker 2: I don't have a recollection of that.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Okay.
- 21:47Speaker 3: Morning, Zachary.
- 21:48Speaker 8: My name is Michael Jones.
- 21:49Speaker 7: Zachary Rosenberg also invoked his right against self-incrimination.
- 21:54Speaker 8: Was there any commotion in the room?
- 21:56Speaker 4: I'd like to invoke my Fifth Amendment right.
- 21:57Speaker 7: The only one who appeared forthcoming was Greg Rosenberg. In 2010,
- 22:03Speaker 7: Mike Jones found him in a Florida prison.
- 22:07Speaker 8: Why are you here in prison?
- 22:08Speaker 2: Trafficking.
- 22:09Speaker 7: Greg was serving three years for trafficking in oxycodone. He
- 22:13Speaker 7: says to support his expensive taste.
- 22:17Speaker 2: I'm a fanatic for clothes, jewelry, watches. That's why I'm
- 22:20Speaker 2: in here, man. Murder's a different deal. Murder's a different deal, man.
- 22:24Speaker 2: I don't have it in my heart to kill nobody, man.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Did you have anything to do with George's death?
- 22:29Speaker 3: No, never did.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Never would, never thought about it, no.
- 22:32Speaker 7: Greg brought up that room service party.
- 22:35Speaker 8: All right, what did you eat?
- 22:36Speaker 2: Tuna fish sandwiches, I know that. We had like tuna
- 22:38Speaker 2: fish sandwiches and.
- 22:42Speaker 2: I know we had something that fast food type. We
- 22:45Speaker 2: were infatuated with the fact that we can order whatever
- 22:48Speaker 2: we want.
- 22:48Speaker 8: They ordered so much food and they couldn't have killed
- 22:50Speaker 8: George because they were in the room eating the room service.
- 22:53Speaker 8: I mean, it's a nice story, but it doesn't work.
- 22:56Speaker 7: In 2010, Mike Jones finally got his hands on those
- 23:00Speaker 7: Royal Caribbean internal documents.
- 23:03Speaker 8: The room service party is pretty much blown by the
- 23:06Speaker 8: information we got from Royal Caribbean. I mean, that's a
- 23:08Speaker 8: big fact.
- 23:10Speaker 7: The ship's records show that although several short calls were
- 23:14Speaker 7: made from Zach and Rusty's cabin to room service after 4.13 a.m.,
- 23:20Speaker 7: there is no record of any order of any kind.
- 23:26Speaker 8: The handwritten records show that the room service was never delivered.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Was it human error they didn't write it down?
- 23:31Speaker 7: Keith Greer insists the room service party did take place,
- 23:35Speaker 7: but it was never really an alibi to begin with,
- 23:38Speaker 7: since the food... would have been delivered after George went missing.
- 23:44Speaker 15: The food service itself doesn't prove that they were in
- 23:48Speaker 15: a certain place at the time George went over, because
- 23:51Speaker 15: George goes over about 4.20 in the morning. So at
- 23:53Speaker 15: that point in time, really the only alibi they have
- 23:57Speaker 15: is each other.
- 23:59Speaker 7: If the ship's records raise some questions about where the
- 24:02Speaker 7: men say they were that night, they also cast doubt
- 24:05Speaker 7: on where they implied Jennifer was. Remember the casino manager
- 24:11Speaker 7: the guys said she left with at the disco?
- 24:14Speaker 2: She was with another man. The casino manager would.
- 24:20Speaker 8: And that didn't happen. That just didn't happen.
- 24:23Speaker 7: Other witnesses say Lloyd did not leave with Jennifer and
- 24:26Speaker 7: key records show that he entered his girlfriend's cabin. At 3.25 a.m.,
- 24:33Speaker 7: all the Smiths were still in the disco.
- 24:35Speaker 8: And he had gone to his girlfriend's room, and she
- 24:37Speaker 8: was able to corroborate that. So I think Lloyd became
- 24:41Speaker 8: the victim of this attempt by the Russians and by
- 24:44Speaker 8: Josh Askin to deflect attention from themselves.
- 24:47Speaker 7: As for Jennifer, several witnesses saw her leave the disco
- 24:52Speaker 7: alone and unsteady at 3.30 a.m.
- 24:57Speaker 8: There are some witnesses from the cruise ship, cruise ship employees,
- 25:00Speaker 8: that actually escorted her onto the elevator and tried to
- 25:03Speaker 8: help her get off the elevator on her floor before
- 25:07Speaker 8: she ended up going the wrong way on Deck 9.
- 25:11Speaker 7: An hour later, Jennifer was found passed out in that
- 25:14Speaker 7: hallway around the time George went overboard. Lloyd Bota and
- 25:19Speaker 7: Jennifer both passed FBI polygraphs.
- 25:22Speaker 8: People that the Russians and Josh were pointing fingers at
- 25:26Speaker 8: both came through very cleanly on their polygraphs.
- 25:30Speaker 7: The four men are still on the FBI's radar, and
- 25:34Speaker 7: the discovery of a homemade videotape only raises more suspicion.
- 25:40Speaker 8: It's ridiculously provocative. Unfortunately, obviously, after eight years, this has
- 25:52Speaker 8: become pretty much a cold case.
- 25:55Speaker 7: For the last few years, Mike Jones has been trying
- 25:59Speaker 7: to reignite a case he believes has gone cold in
- 26:02Speaker 7: the Connecticut FBI office.
- 26:05Speaker 8: If you talk to the FBI, they'll say it's active
- 26:07Speaker 8: and open, but I don't really believe that.
- 26:11Speaker 7: And Jones also doesn't believe the account of the four
- 26:14Speaker 7: young men last seen with George Smith.
- 26:18Speaker 8: When you left George in his bed, all you guys left,
- 26:20Speaker 8: no one stayed behind.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Nobody stayed behind. We all left.
- 26:23Speaker 8: There's a lot of evidence to suggest that that was
- 26:26Speaker 8: not as simple as the Russian men and as Josh
- 26:29Speaker 8: have said. You look at the behavior of these young men.
- 26:32Speaker 8: They're not good boys or good Samaritans.
- 26:34Speaker 7: Royal Caribbean documents show complaints were made against some of
- 26:38Speaker 7: the men for smoking, sneaking liquor, and verbally abusing ship employees.
- 26:45Speaker 8: They were dropping F-bombs on the room service people.
- 26:48Speaker 7: And two days after George Smith went overboard, an 18-year-old
- 26:52Speaker 7: passenger came forward with a major allegation of sexual assault.
- 26:58Speaker 8: She stated that she was in one of the Russians'
- 27:01Speaker 8: rooms and that there was group sex with her with
- 27:05Speaker 8: some of the Russians.
- 27:07Speaker 7: In the woman's statement, she says she was completely intoxicated
- 27:11Speaker 7: and in between blackouts... remembers having non-consensual sex with Greg Rosenberg,
- 27:18Speaker 7: Rusty Kaufman, and Jeffrey Rosenberg, Zach Rosenberg's younger brother.
- 27:24Speaker 8: And they actually videotaped the group's sex. And the fact
- 27:27Speaker 8: that they videotaped themselves doing this, I mean, who does that?
- 27:31Speaker 7: Rusty's lawyer says the sex was consensual.
- 27:35Speaker 13: That whole escapade was non-criminal in nature. The tape itself revealed.
- 27:40Speaker 7: That Josh's lawyer Keith Greer says Josh did not have
- 27:44Speaker 7: sex with a young woman But he was.
- 27:47Speaker 15: There Josh walks into the room and there's one of
- 27:50Speaker 15: the Russian boys having sex on the bed with the
- 27:53Speaker 15: girl and another one of the boys filming it and
- 27:57Speaker 15: Josh was concerned it became clear to him very quickly
- 28:01Speaker 15: that The boys weren't taking advantage of her.
- 28:04Speaker 3: The girl was taking advantage of the boys.
- 28:06Speaker 7: And Before he left CBS News to rejoin the New
- 28:10Speaker 7: York City Police Department, John Miller investigated the case for
- 28:15Speaker 7: 48 hours.
- 28:16Speaker 16: People who have seen that videotape have told me that
- 28:19Speaker 16: the person holding the camera is doing kind of a
- 28:22Speaker 16: narration and asking her questions, and she's responding to them.
- 28:27Speaker 16: But as this continues, she's crying.
- 28:30Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything about any crying from anyone.
- 28:34Speaker 7: Royal Caribbean had had enough and rounded up all of
- 28:38Speaker 7: the young men and their families for a tense meeting
- 28:42Speaker 7: with the ship's lawyer. Josh Eskin's father was, again, recording.
- 28:49Speaker 12: The FBI has.
- 28:50Speaker 7: Asked us to detain your sons. We're going to have
- 28:53Speaker 7: to ask you to have your sons go to their cabins,
- 28:57Speaker 7: and they're going to have to remain there. The group
- 28:59Speaker 7: angrily denied the allegations. The four men and their families
- 29:12Speaker 7: were then removed from the ship in Naples, where Italian
- 29:16Speaker 7: police looked into the rape allegation and washed their hands
- 29:20Speaker 7: of it, saying they had no jurisdiction. No one has
- 29:24Speaker 7: ever been charged in the sexual incident, and lawyers for
- 29:27Speaker 7: the men believe the tape saved them.
- 29:31Speaker 13: But for that tape, they could have been charged for
- 29:33Speaker 13: something that they did not commit.
- 29:36Speaker 7: But that tape may come back to haunt them. The
- 29:39Speaker 7: tape in the FBI's possession contained something else, a lunch
- 29:44Speaker 7: meeting filmed by the Russian Americans just hours after George
- 29:48Speaker 7: went overboard. Josh Askin was not present.
- 29:52Speaker 8: They pass a video camera around filming themselves commenting about
- 29:57Speaker 8: George's death in a very callous way. And they're laughing
- 30:00Speaker 8: and joking very callously about him being wealthy. And certainly
- 30:05Speaker 8: the way they were talking, they either knew or they
- 30:07Speaker 8: had a pretty good sense of what had happened.
- 30:09Speaker 7: A source close to the investigation has told CBS News
- 30:13Speaker 7: that on the tape, one of the men, Rusty Kaufman,
- 30:16Speaker 7: refers to George going parachute riding off his balcony. It
- 30:21Speaker 7: is not an admission, but it is at the very
- 30:24Speaker 7: least provocative. And there's more.
- 30:27Speaker 8: The really sort of incriminating statement is one of them
- 30:30Speaker 8: stands up at the end of the tape. and sort
- 30:32Speaker 8: of hunches his shoulders and flashes gang signs and says,
- 30:35Speaker 8: told you I was gangster. And that's in the context
- 30:39Speaker 8: of the discussion about George's death, almost as if he's
- 30:42Speaker 8: bragging about having done something to George.
- 30:45Speaker 7: Jones says that young man was Greg Rosenberg.
- 30:49Speaker 6: I just don't understand how the FBI could have had
- 30:52Speaker 6: this tape in their possession, and still we sit here,
- 30:56Speaker 6: get the guys in there, question them.
- 30:59Speaker 7: Lawyers for Zach Rosenberg and Rusty Kaufman declined to comment
- 31:03Speaker 7: on the video. In the spring of 2013, John Miller
- 31:07Speaker 7: tried to see if Rusty himself could provide any more answers.
- 31:13Speaker 16: There's a statement made on videotape where you say George
- 31:18Speaker 16: went parachute riding off his balcony.
- 31:21Speaker 8: I have no comment. Please contact my lawyer and then
- 31:24Speaker 8: we can.
- 31:24Speaker 5: Arrange a time to speak.
- 31:28Speaker 7: Greg Rosenberg's lawyer says Greg didn't know George was dead
- 31:32Speaker 7: at that point and that his client was just making
- 31:35Speaker 7: a stupid comment.
- 31:37Speaker 8: I don't think they're kidding around.
- 31:38Speaker 5: It's just not something you would just come out and
- 31:40Speaker 5: say you're kidding around because if you didn't do it,
- 31:42Speaker 5: why would you be saying it?
- 31:44Speaker 7: But if George was murdered, the question has always been why?
- 31:49Speaker 7: Mike Jones believes there is finally enough evidence to piece
- 31:53Speaker 7: it all together.
- 31:54Speaker 8: The first thing you look at is motive, okay? George
- 31:57Speaker 8: and Jennifer dressed well. George had a very expensive Breitling watch.
- 32:00Speaker 8: They sort of flashed the money in the casino.
- 32:03Speaker 7: What's more, witnesses heard George and Jennifer saying they had
- 32:07Speaker 7: thousands of dollars in their cabin.
- 32:10Speaker 8: And this got around because there were other passengers not
- 32:13Speaker 8: within the circle, the Russians and Josh, who heard the
- 32:15Speaker 8: rumors about the money in the cabin. We don't believe
- 32:18Speaker 8: it was true, but perception is everything.
- 32:21Speaker 7: Jones believes that perception fueled a robbery attempt, one that
- 32:25Speaker 7: was hatched when they put George to bed and Josh
- 32:29Speaker 7: had gone into the bathroom.
- 32:31Speaker 8: The theory would be that they were arguing about whether
- 32:33Speaker 8: or not one of them or two of them should
- 32:35Speaker 8: stay behind and see if they could find the money
- 32:38Speaker 8: and take the watch, because George was in no position
- 32:41Speaker 8: to argue or to put up a fight.
- 32:43Speaker 7: That arguing, Mike believes, is what Cleet Hyman heard on
- 32:46Speaker 7: the balcony. Jones also believes his theory fits with what
- 32:50Speaker 7: Hyman saw, just three men leaving.
- 32:55Speaker 8: And one of them stays behind, starts to rifle through
- 32:57Speaker 8: the drawers and the cabinets.
- 32:59Speaker 7: He has a possible explanation for the blood stain.
- 33:03Speaker 8: The blood is on the sheets. The blood is in
- 33:05Speaker 8: two sort of centimeter long splashes. And almost looks like
- 33:10Speaker 8: if you were taking off a watch and you pinched
- 33:13Speaker 8: your skin, it would be compatible with the blood splatter
- 33:16Speaker 8: that was on the bed. While they're doing that, George
- 33:19Speaker 8: wakes up, says, what are you doing? Fight ensues, which
- 33:22Speaker 8: is consistent with the noises that people on both sides
- 33:24Speaker 8: of the cabin heard. And George goes overboard. Other people
- 33:28Speaker 8: hear the loud thud.
- 33:29Speaker 7: Josh Askin's lawyer, Keith Greer, argues that is all nothing
- 33:33Speaker 7: more than speculation.
- 33:36Speaker 15: Even Cleet Hyman, he even said that he did not
- 33:38Speaker 15: hear the sounds that you would expect if there was
- 33:41Speaker 15: a fight.
- 33:42Speaker 3: You know, you dirty.
- 33:43Speaker 15: So-and-so, the smacking, the kicking and stumbling and yelling of
- 33:47Speaker 15: two guys going at each other in a fist fight.
- 33:50Speaker 3: I just don't think it makes sense.
- 33:52Speaker 7: Greer thinks that there's a simpler explanation for all that
- 33:55Speaker 7: took place aboard the brilliance of the seas, the sex
- 33:59Speaker 7: assault claim and George going overboard.
- 34:03Speaker 15: I don't know why everybody's missing the theme here, because
- 34:05Speaker 15: there's one common element, and it's too much alcohol. And
- 34:11Speaker 15: we can go and, you know, blame it on murder
- 34:14Speaker 15: and blame it on aggressive sexual behavior here.
- 34:17Speaker 3: You know what?
- 34:17Speaker 15: It's just everybody drinking too much and stupid stuff happening.
- 34:22Speaker 3: That fits.
- 34:23Speaker 7: But does it fit with what Josh Askin was heard
- 34:27Speaker 7: saying on an elevator? Mike Jones is a persistent man
- 34:37Speaker 7: and he believes his persistence will one day pay off.
- 34:42Speaker 8: It's just a question of pulling together enough evidence to
- 34:46Speaker 8: get an indictment and a conviction.
- 34:48Speaker 7: Jones and the Smiths maintain the key to solving the
- 34:52Speaker 7: case lies in California.
- 34:54Speaker 8: Our theory is that Josh Askin knows what happened But
- 34:58Speaker 8: we don't believe that Josh was involved in the actual,
- 35:01Speaker 8: you know, tossing of George overboard.
- 35:03Speaker 7: To support his theory, Jones is pointing to an intriguing
- 35:06Speaker 7: clue uncovered by Royal Caribbean. A ship employee overheard Josh
- 35:12Speaker 7: Askin speaking to a friend on an elevator.
- 35:16Speaker 8: He said, I know more than they think I know.
- 35:18Speaker 8: Those almost got me arrested in Turkey.
- 35:21Speaker 7: Keith Greer argues the comments were taken out of context
- 35:25Speaker 7: and Josh has nothing to hide.
- 35:28Speaker 16: Do you think that Josh Askin has told you everything
- 35:33Speaker 16: he knows?
- 35:34Speaker 3: Absolutely. No doubt.
- 35:36Speaker 7: But Greer admits the FBI told Josh he failed a polygraph.
- 35:41Speaker 7: Greer questions the test and the result.
- 35:44Speaker 15: I think it's another rubber hose ploy, you know, where
- 35:47Speaker 15: just to freak Josh out and upset him more, I
- 35:51Speaker 15: think it was just the psychological war that they were
- 35:53Speaker 15: waging on him and his family, or they didn't take
- 35:56Speaker 15: the time to do it right.
- 35:58Speaker 3: One or the other.
- 35:59Speaker 7: Sources tell CBS News Rusty Kaufman also was tested and
- 36:03Speaker 7: he too failed. Greg Rosenberg was administered a private polygraph test.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I took a polygraph.
- 36:12Speaker 4: You did take one.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Yeah, it was inconclusive because I'm ADHD because you could
- 36:15Speaker 2: tell I like to move a lot. It was inconclusive.
- 36:18Speaker 2: There ain't no lies that I need to tell.
- 36:20Speaker 14: Generally, it's much easier to tell the actual lie on
- 36:24Speaker 14: your own.
- 36:24Speaker 7: 48 Hours decided to bring in Phil Houston, a former
- 36:28Speaker 7: CIA case officer who for more than two decades specialized
- 36:33Speaker 7: in detecting deception. We asked him to take a closer
- 36:37Speaker 7: look at those depositions.
- 36:39Speaker 16: Is there anybody of the group that particularly jumps out?
- 36:43Speaker 2: That's the honest truth.
- 36:44Speaker 14: Greg stands out.
- 36:46Speaker 2: Above and beyond everyone.
- 36:48Speaker 14: There was just a ton of deceptive behaviors.
- 36:50Speaker 2: You can't judge a book by its cover.
- 36:52Speaker 7: In Houston's opinion, it's not what Greg Rosenberg says that
- 36:55Speaker 7: seems deceptive. It is often what he doesn't say.
- 37:00Speaker 14: What we should hear and see his focus on is,
- 37:04Speaker 14: I didn't do it. It wasn't me.
- 37:05Speaker 8: You got the wrong guy.
- 37:07Speaker 14: Instead, we don't. Where we hear his focus so many
- 37:10Speaker 14: times is, are reasons why he wouldn't do this.
- 37:14Speaker 2: But in no way, shape, or form would I ever
- 37:15Speaker 2: do anything like that to an individual. No reason, that's
- 37:20Speaker 2: not me.
- 37:20Speaker 7: And it appears some questions are more difficult for Greg
- 37:25Speaker 7: than others.
- 37:25Speaker 8: Did they find anything in either room that was connected
- 37:29Speaker 8: to George's disappearance?
- 37:32Speaker 14: He hesitates. He's clearly thinking. The question has thrown him
- 37:36Speaker 14: for a loop. It's almost, what could they have found
- 37:40Speaker 14: that would have connected someone to the disappearance. No.
- 37:45Speaker 8: Okay.
- 37:47Speaker 14: And then it's like, as he thinks through it, he realizes,
- 37:50Speaker 14: I've got to answer the question.
- 37:51Speaker 2: So he goes, well, no, no.
- 37:54Speaker 16: So he's thinking about something that is not going to
- 37:56Speaker 16: come out in his answer.
- 37:58Speaker 14: That's correct.
- 37:59Speaker 7: That's correct.
- 38:00Speaker 14: Something he's not sharing.
- 38:01Speaker 7: But Greg doesn't hold back on the one thing the
- 38:04Speaker 7: Smiths would agree with. He says George's death was no accident.
- 38:09Speaker 2: George Allen Smith did not disappear or kill himself or
- 38:13Speaker 2: hurt himself or slip and fall off a boat at 6'4,
- 38:16Speaker 2: however tall he is, and just dive off. I know
- 38:20Speaker 2: that didn't happen. Something crazy went down that night. And
- 38:23Speaker 2: I hope one day that they find out the truth.
- 38:27Speaker 7: In the years following George's death, Jennifer has remarried and
- 38:31Speaker 7: tried to move on. But for the Smiths, it's not
- 38:35Speaker 7: so easy. In 2014, they announced they are offering a reward, $ 100, 000
- 38:42Speaker 7: for information that leads directly to the arrest and conviction
- 38:47Speaker 7: of whoever is responsible.
- 38:49Speaker 6: We're hoping with this $ 100, 000 reward, this might just be
- 38:54Speaker 6: the thing that we need to get the arrest, to
- 38:57Speaker 6: get the convictions.
- 38:58Speaker 7: Until the day this case is solved, the Smith vow
- 39:02Speaker 7: not to let George's memory die on that ship.
- 39:10Speaker 4: There you go, Georgie.
- 39:14Speaker 8: We'll get justice.
- 39:15Speaker 2: We'll get justice.
- 39:17Speaker 5: Somehow.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Somehow we'll get justice for George. Somebody will talk. And
- 39:24Speaker 1: shame on them that don't. Shame on the people that don't.
- 39:30Speaker 8: Have put us through this hell.
- 39:41Speaker 7: On January 9th, 2015, the Smith family suffered yet another blow.
- 39:47Speaker 7: The FBI announced... they were officially closing the case on
- 39:52Speaker 7: George Smith.
- 39:53Speaker 6: The FBI has determined that there is not sufficient evidence
- 39:56Speaker 6: to continue the investigation.
- 40:00Speaker 5: When we were called in for the meeting that finally
- 40:03Speaker 5: closed the case down, it was just devastating to my family.
- 40:07Speaker 6: How do you collect 97,000 pages of an investigation to
- 40:12Speaker 6: determine after almost 10 years that an accident may have occurred?
- 40:16Speaker 7: Still, the family stands by that $ 100, 000 reward, and they
- 40:22Speaker 7: still believe it was murder.
- 40:25Speaker 5: The money that was going to be left to George,
- 40:27Speaker 5: we thought that.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Since he wasn't going to be here to get that money,
- 40:41Speaker 5: somebody else could use it to help our family.
- 40:45Speaker 6: We're hoping to generate more leads with the reward, and
- 40:49Speaker 6: we're hoping the FBI will reopen the investigation.
- 40:54Speaker 7: But the toll is great.
- 40:57Speaker 5: I never expected to be 67 and still sitting here
- 41:01Speaker 5: trying to get answers from my son.
- 41:05Speaker 7: It's sad.
- 41:06Speaker 5: We should be on with.
- 41:07Speaker 8: Our life, but we're not.
- 41:10Speaker 6: They could say there's no conclusive evidence. They could shut
- 41:12Speaker 6: down the investigation, but they're not going to shut down me,
- 41:14Speaker 6: and I'm going to continue until there is answers and
- 41:17Speaker 6: justice for George.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Thank you.