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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Why All the What Ifs · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what is going on everybody
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  it is lunchtime lunch with
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  the Clydesdale I know the
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  champ is still over on
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  Savan so this will probably
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  be a nice intimate setting
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  for us today what's going
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  on Lita what's going on
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  Meredith um good to see you
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  guys what's up Corey um yeah
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  Got back late last night, about, gosh,
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  nine o'clock last night.
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  Woke up yesterday morning,
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  got all packed up.
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  Met with Hattie one last
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  time to get kind of some
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  final touches on her story.
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  We sat down, recorded that,
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  then hopped in my car and
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  drove what ended up being a
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  ten-hour drive.
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  trip back from albany last
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  night um got to buffalo got
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  in a traffic jam and it
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  slowed me way down um man I
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  was so tired at that point
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  thank god for some c-four
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  and then once I hit like
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  the pa border like I was
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  alert again and taken off
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  and just flying home so uh
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  podcasts the glint things
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  kept me going late last
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  night um listening to all
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  the content I could on my
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  drive um to kind of keep up
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  with everything and of
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  course trying to catch up
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  with my chicago bears
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  because I watched nothing
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  chicago bears while I was gone
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  But I did have a ton of time
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  to think while I was in the car.
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  And I've got like three main
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  topics that are going to fill this week.
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  And I have like a monologue
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  for each of these three topics.
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  So just to give you a quick
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  preview as to what that
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  looks like is today we're
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  going to talk about the what ifs.
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  Tomorrow,
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  we're going to talk about why you
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  can't kill CrossFit.
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  Or Thursday,
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  depending on what Corey and I
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  get into tomorrow.
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  And then either Thursday or Friday,
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  people that say Dave
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  doesn't know what he's doing,
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  that's just a dumb statement.
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  So those are kind of the
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  headlines of the monologues
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  I have in my head from my
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  thought process back from Albany.
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  And I got to tell you,
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  the vibes were freaking amazing.
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  I know we said it on the show Sunday night,
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  and a lot of people were
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  putting down that the attendance was low.
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  I think we also have to
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  remember it was the biggest
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  arena we've ever been in.
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  So there's going to be empty seats, right?
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  You're in the largest venue
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  you've ever been in.
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  There's going to be some empty seats.
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  But the vibes were awesome.
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  The vibes were awesome.
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  And the community was awesome.
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  Tristan,
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  you may have inspired the last one.
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  You may have inspired the
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  last one a little bit.
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  Jose, it was loud.
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  It really was.
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  And Jose, I need to talk to you.
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  In my final interview with Hattie,
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  she actually talks about
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  pictures you took of her.
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  And I need to make sure we
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  have all those in the
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  documentary so that we can
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  pull them up as like show
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  and tell for what she's talking about.
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  Tristan says, that's okay.
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  I could dive deeper into
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  what I meant as well.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Of course,
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  everything I'm saying is a
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  teaser tagline.
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  So you come here more.
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  But got back late last night.
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  I got up this morning,
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  had a cardiology appointment.
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  As most of you have known
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  who have been with the
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  channel for a while,
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  I have been in AFib twice over the last.
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  Eighteen months met with my
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  cardiologist today, had an EKG done.
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  everything is great we
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  actually got like this is
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  our first good report from
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  the cardiologist post
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  everything that's happened
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  and so I've been cleared to
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  up intensity I've been
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  cleared to let my heart
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  rate get up a little bit
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  higher during workouts um
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  and everything looks good
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  to the point where I don't
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  have a follow-up for a year
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  So that is really, really good news.
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  Just got back from there a little bit ago.
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  I'm really excited to hear that.
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  The only thing I have is
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  some stuff to check to make
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  sure the medicine I'm
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  taking isn't hurting my kidneys.
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  So I've got to get a blood
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  test in six months, finding that out.
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  And then we move on from there.
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  So really, really excited about all that.
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  And I can get back to full workouts.
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  That's going to be exciting.
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  The other thing on my trip
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  home is I had a lot of self-reflection.
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  So this is the first year I
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  had enhanced access.
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  You guys all know that story.
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  Didn't have it.
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  Got it.
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  Was amazed I got it.
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  It was really cool to be
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  able to do some different things.
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  But it made me really
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  self-reflect on what I want
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  to be as a media company.
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  And
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  I was trying to do
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  everything at the games
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  this year I was trying to
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  be backstage with hattie
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  and tristan and talk to
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  them I was trying to be
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  back there to get
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  interviews in the back area
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  and finally on sunday I
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  said you know I've done all I can
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  going to go enjoy the last
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  couple events in the arena
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  and and I did that and in
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  the process that's when I
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  ran into saxon pancheck had
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  an awesome conversation
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  with him I ran into heather
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  lawrence the director of
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  she's the boss for
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  everything outside the
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  ropes at the games had a
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  great conversation with her
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  met a lot of great fans but
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  my biggest regret was I
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  didn't get to meet people
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  like jody lynn um who's
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  been a follower of the show
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  for a long time big
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  supporter I love her to
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  death and wanted to meet
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  her so bad and a lot of a
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  lot of other people like
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  that I got to meet a lot of
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  fans on sunday
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  I need to take the time to do that.
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  I need to focus on like one or two things,
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  um,
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  out there and focus on those and the
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  rest of the time,
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  enjoy the time with the
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  community and what's going on.
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  And I need to stop pushing
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  myself so hard and just do
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  what I need to do.
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  Um,
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  In those moments.
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  And I'm thinking I'm going
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  to make that change going
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  into the Masters CrossFit Games.
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  Rather than try to do this
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  big epic behind the scenes
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  like we did last year that
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  was eleven episodes.
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  I want to enjoy the people
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  that I get to see there.
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  Um
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  I want to be able to shake hands,
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  give hugs, talk to people.
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  I still want to do a behind the scenes,
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  but I don't think it's
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  going to be as big and as
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  epic as we did last year.
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  I think it's going to be
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  more refined and I'm
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  touching on the highlights
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  because the fact of the
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  matter is I have a lot of friends there,
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  Denise and Rudy burger.
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  And I,
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  Carolyn and Jamie, all competing.
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  I want to be able to see them compete.
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  I want to be able to root them on.
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  I want to be able to capture
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  their reactions to everything.
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  Shanna, I get to see her.
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  All those people that I
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  didn't get the chance at
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  the elite games to do that with,
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  I want to be able to do
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  that when we're at the
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  Masters CrossFit Games.
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  um jody lynn yes I'm sorry
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  we didn't meet believe me I
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  had my binoculars and
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  didn't see you once um I
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  know I know I really was
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  not even in the arena at
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  all on day two day one I
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  was there a little bit day
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  three I was there a lot day
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  two I really was in the
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  back area the entire day um
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  and I need to stop doing that
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  And it goes back to kind of this thing,
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  like Corey says, Scott, did you eat?
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  I get so focused on things
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  that I do forget to eat.
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  And I think there's more to
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  it than just forgetting to eat.
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  I also,
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  my stomach gets upset when I'm on
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  the road.
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  Nothing sounds good.
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  And I'm just not as hungry on the road.
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  But I did eat.
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  I did eat this time.
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  I made sure that the day was
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  over by five or six o'clock
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  and I could go get a decent
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  dinner before the show at eight o'clock.
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  So that was good.
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  Um, but anyway, those are just,
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  those are just my thoughts.
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  Um, I did, I had protein bars with me too.
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  I had some dried mango.
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  Um, I had water with me every day,
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  so I did much better than I
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  usually do for sure.
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  But I think that's what just
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  sharing with you that I
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  think I just need to change my
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  I need to stop thinking
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  about quantity and start
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  thinking about quality
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  because most of the time
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  like this year I was a
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  pretty much a one-man crew
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  with jose and um ishmael
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  doing some work for me in
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  the pits but I I need to
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  have conversations with
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  people and I didn't get to
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  do that with a lot of the
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  people that I've gotten to
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  know over the years
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  I mean,
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  it wasn't until late Sunday I got
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  to say anything to Hiller
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  at all and thank him for
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  the push he's given us over
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  the last few weeks.
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  So that's my self-reflection.
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  I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
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  I do have a couple fun things to share.
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  You know, Jason Hopper won the games.
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  I just wanted to share this old,
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  old thing I found.
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  This was when I was with the
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  Morning Chalk Up.
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  Kat and I were with the Morning Chalk Up,
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  and we were hosting the bottom line,
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  and we interviewed Jason at
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  the West Coast Classic.
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  This is right after he made
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  his first games at the MAC.
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  We were catching up with him.
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  learning about him and his wife,
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  doing an introductory interview.
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  And, yeah.
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  The kind you like?
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  Yeah.
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  So I like to run my own race.
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  That's kind of been the whole, like,
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  motto through this.
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  It's like, hey,
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  don't worry about anybody else.
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  So, yeah, there's a lot.
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  And some workouts, it's not.
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  It's, you know, based off feel.
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  And you ride the way, see what happens.
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  And then sometimes it's like, okay,
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  you need to, like, put this on.
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  So I found this.
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  I thought it was pretty funny.
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  Corey says he looks like a baby.
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  He does.
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  He was so young then.
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  This was five years ago when
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  we got to meet him.
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  and he was doing the tour
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  with with matt frazier and
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  matt o'keefe and we grabbed
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  him and took him upstairs
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  did this interview during
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  the west coast classic and
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  it was a lot of fun he was
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  him and grace ann was funny
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  back then um she was awesome
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  love when she goes on girls
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  interrupted and it was good
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  to see um him win I know
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  that I've given him a hard
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  time saying that every time
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  I bet on him he lets me
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  down but uh it was awesome
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  seeing him win this year
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  and I think with everything
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  he's doing from a personal
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  marketing standpoint he's
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  going to be a great
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  champion the other thing I
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  wanted to share with you is
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  Um,
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  my designer has come up with a shirt
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  logo.
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  I'll throw it out to you guys.
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  This is a first draft.
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  I think she did amazing.
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  I don't really see any
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  corrections that I would make to it,
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  but I'm going to show you
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  what the get jazzed t-shirt
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  would look like the logo
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  and tell me what you think.
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  Here we go.
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  So any thoughts, whoops, man, sensitive.
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  Just wanted to get your thoughts.
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  Clydesdale media get jazzed.
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  We got the Clydesdale
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  playing the saxophone with a fedora.
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  And cool,
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  pretty funky lettering going
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  around with the musical notes.
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  Scott, Judy gave me your jazz sticker.
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  It's on my water bottle.
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  Awesome.
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  Yeah, I gave her a couple.
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  Alito, love it, Scott.
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  Thank you.
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  If everybody likes it, amazing.
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  Imagine if the games went to New Orleans.
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  Yeah.
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  We complained about Fort Worth.
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  Man,
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  the humidity in New Orleans would be
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  insane.
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  I'd rather it on the back
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  with a smaller Clydesdale
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  logo on the front, but that's just me.
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  I'm buying one regardless.
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  She just mocked it up on a shirt.
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  It doesn't mean it's going
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  to be on the front.
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  It could be on the back.
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  If you do the small logo on
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  the front and the one on the back,
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  then you have to pay for
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  the double-sided shirt.
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  Corey says, I live in New Orleans.
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  That's a terrible idea.
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  Uh, Lito gray is not the only option.
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  It's just the mock-up.
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  This is honestly her first draft.
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  First thing she sent back to me.
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  Um, and I love it.
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  Um,
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  I would probably do it in the show
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  colors.
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  We'd probably have a yellow option,
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  a blue option.
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  Um, and then because it's white and black,
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  we'd have to go something else, um,
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  to get there.
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  Oh, we'd, we'd probably have a couple, uh,
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  couple different color
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  options absolutely jazzed
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  for this top I agree with
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  Corey have the larger logo
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  on the back second Corey's
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  ID if that's possible yeah
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  Corey I've been there in
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  the summer it's awful
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  mark phillips yep pocket
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  logo big on back and sleeve
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  flag something if cost
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  makes sense uh corey we
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  have four seasons andrew
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  almost summer summer still
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  summer and christmas yeah
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  that's what it was when I
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  lived in tallahassee florida too
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  So we'll cool.
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  Well, I love the logo.
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  And if you guys think the
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  logo itself is good,
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  then we'll come up with a
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  t-shirt design and, uh,
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  and we'll do a pre-order for it.
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  And what I'm hoping to do is
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  have at least a stock of
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  them made for the masters CrossFit games.
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  So if you're coming to the masters games,
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  you can just pick it up there.
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  If you're not, then we'll ship them out,
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  um, after that,
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  but that's probably do like
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  a pre-order see how long
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  it's going to take and, uh,
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  have them ready for the
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  masters CrossFit games.
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  So cool.
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  All right.
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  Before I get into my first
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  monologue of the week,
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  I've gotten a lot of
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  comments about the spirit
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  of the games and what we
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  talked about on Sunday night.
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  And that people brought up
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  that Lydia Fish should have
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  won the spirit of the games.
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  And I just want to, like,
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  reiterate my thoughts.
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  Again,
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  I'm not a fan of the spirit of the
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  games only because it has
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  not been defined as to what
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  it actually is.
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  But if I were to define it in my head,
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  it would be a person that
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  has done something for the
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  CrossFit community as a
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  whole to push it forward.
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  And why Colton is a good choice
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  is because he is someone
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  that has had to overcome a
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  lot to get to where he is.
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  He works a full-time job.
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  He is short in stature.
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  He has had to improve
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  different things every year
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  to get better and better and better.
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  And that's what every
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  CrossFitter is trying to do.
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  They are trying to take the
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  skills they have, the abilities they have,
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  and get better and better and better.
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  And all of that does not
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  take place in one year.
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  It takes place over time.
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  You have to build a following.
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  You have to build a
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  reputation for doing what you do.
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  And that is why I believe
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  that people like Colton
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  Mertens or people like
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  feast of coffee would be
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  more deserving of spirit of
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  the games than someone like Lydia fish.
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  Lydia Fish is awesome.
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  We've talked about it.
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  She is tiny.
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  What she does on the floor is amazing.
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  She just hasn't had enough
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  time to establish herself
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  as one of those people to
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  move the community forward.
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  It just is going to take some time.
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  And I think Lydia Fish is
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  going to have plenty of
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  awards in her future.
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  He has an autoimmune disease or something,
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  too.
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  He does.
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  He also lost a family member.
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  I think his mom during the season.
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  How about Lucy and her
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  determination to get back to the games?
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  Again,
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  Lucy's only been to the games twice.
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  I think that in the future
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  she could be considered as
• 21:51
  a spirit of the games,
• 21:54
  but I think this is
• 21:56
  Colton's fourth time to the games.
• 21:59
  And each time he's gotten a better finish,
• 22:03
  a better finish,
• 22:04
  a better finish and a better finish.
• 22:07
  And he keeps overcoming all
• 22:09
  these obstacles to do that.
• 22:11
  That's where it is a more
• 22:13
  established pattern moving forward.
• 22:20
  If they had a comeback player of the year,
• 22:22
  that is Lucy Campbell's hands down.
• 22:25
  But I think she'll take the
• 22:26
  silver medal instead
• 22:28
  because that's probably
• 22:29
  pretty damn important.
• 22:31
  She was the fittest mortal on the field.
• 22:41
  Lito makes a great point.
• 22:42
  Not only that,
• 22:43
  but also the spirit of the
• 22:44
  competition in that he
• 22:46
  doesn't complain even when
• 22:47
  things don't go his way,
• 22:49
  like the rope malfunction,
• 22:50
  the pegboard gate, et cetera.
• 22:59
  Lito,
• 22:59
  I don't think they consider podium
• 23:00
  finishers for the Spirit of
• 23:02
  the Games award, though.
• 23:05
  I can say that they have
• 23:06
  given a podium finisher the
• 23:07
  Spirit of the Games before.
• 23:10
  But that is one of the
• 23:11
  biggest disagreements I've
• 23:12
  had in the history of the award.
• 23:14
  And that is when they gave
• 23:15
  it to Roman the year he broke his foot.
• 23:24
  Same for most improved.
• 23:29
  Listen,
• 23:29
  what Tudor has improved on is more
• 23:32
  than just placement on the leaderboard.
• 23:34
  It is his overall mindset.
• 23:37
  He has done so much to improve that.
• 23:46
  I have no idea how he kept
• 23:48
  himself composed when his rope broke.
• 23:51
  I don't either.
• 23:54
  I don't either,
• 23:56
  but that's why I don't have most,
• 24:01
  most improved is a thing.
• 24:03
  It's usually just placement
• 24:04
  on the leaderboard.
• 24:06
  Uh,
• 24:07
  They did not hand it out
• 24:09
  last year that I know of.
• 24:10
  The year before,
• 24:11
  Alex Kazan won it when she
• 24:12
  went from twenty fifth the
• 24:14
  year before to fifth that year.
• 24:19
  It's kind of like that thing.
• 24:21
  Tudor Magda won it this year.
• 24:25
  And he has improved
• 24:26
  tremendously to finish top
• 24:27
  ten was awesome for him.
• 24:39
  So, yeah, so that is,
• 24:42
  I've had a couple comments about that.
• 24:45
  Love Lydia Fish.
• 24:46
  It's just not her time yet.
• 24:48
  Just not her time.
• 24:50
  She may establish herself as
• 24:51
  one of those people,
• 24:52
  and that would be awesome.
• 24:54
  Because I think the trophy
• 24:55
  would be bigger than her.
• 24:59
  So, now on to my what ifs.
• 25:06
  This is the thing that
• 25:07
  probably bugs me more than
• 25:08
  anything in CrossFit and
• 25:12
  sports in general.
• 25:18
  You watch a football game.
• 25:22
  There's a flag thrown.
• 25:24
  You don't think it should
• 25:25
  have been thrown.
• 25:27
  It cost you, your team, the game.
• 25:29
  What if that ref didn't do that?
• 25:31
  They'd won.
• 25:33
  It happens so much.
• 25:36
  This whole thing about
• 25:37
  Hopper only won because the
• 25:40
  pegboards were slippery is crap.
• 25:47
  In sports,
• 25:48
  you're going to have to face
• 25:49
  things that you don't know
• 25:51
  you're going to have to face.
• 25:53
  And it may not be an intended difficulty,
• 25:58
  like the pegboard thing,
• 26:00
  like you used chalk and you
• 26:02
  shouldn't have,
• 26:02
  like you spat on your shoe
• 26:04
  and you shouldn't have,
• 26:06
  whatever that may be.
• 26:08
  Those things happen in
• 26:09
  sports all the time.
• 26:13
  You have to overcome them.
• 26:16
  And just because this
• 26:18
  happened to Ricky or
• 26:20
  happened to Dallin and
• 26:23
  Jason won the event,
• 26:25
  should not discredit the
• 26:26
  fact that he went through
• 26:28
  the same gauntlet of stuff
• 26:31
  and came out on top.
• 26:34
  Every year,
• 26:35
  we're going to have a lane that's slower,
• 26:37
  a lane that's faster,
• 26:40
  a lane with a bad judge,
• 26:42
  a lane with something.
• 26:43
  It's going to be in every games.
• 26:47
  You have to overcome those.
• 26:50
  It's just the way sports works out.
• 26:55
  If you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan,
• 26:57
  you have to overcome that
• 26:58
  you have a bad defense.
• 27:00
  I'm sorry.
• 27:01
  I got off track there.
• 27:05
  There are flags thrown in sports,
• 27:07
  in football.
• 27:08
  There are calls made in hockey.
• 27:11
  There are outs called in
• 27:14
  baseball that everybody disagrees with.
• 27:17
  Somebody trips and falls.
• 27:19
  Somebody slips and slides.
• 27:22
  Something is going to happen.
• 27:29
  People will always give
• 27:30
  stupid reasons for why someone won.
• 27:32
  Matt won because Rich wasn't
• 27:34
  there anymore.
• 27:34
  James won because of people withdrawing.
• 27:39
  I know,
• 27:39
  and it's getting more prevalent in
• 27:41
  CrossFit that we're
• 27:43
  discrediting the champion.
• 27:50
  Okay.
• 27:51
  Justin won, and Justin won because...
• 27:59
  He shouldn't have won
• 27:59
  because he didn't win events.
• 28:02
  Jeff won because Roman broke his foot.
• 28:05
  James won because people weren't there.
• 28:09
  Now Jason wins because the
• 28:11
  pegboards were slippery.
• 28:12
  We got to stop all this.
• 28:16
  They went through the week.
• 28:17
  They ended up winning.
• 28:19
  They are the person defined
• 28:21
  as the fittest on earth.
• 28:27
  I think this is more evident
• 28:28
  because Hopper didn't win
• 28:29
  by a hundred points.
• 28:30
  It was so close.
• 28:32
  So these small issues seem
• 28:33
  to have more weight.
• 28:34
  I think you're right, Shanna.
• 28:35
  I think that Matt spoiled us
• 28:38
  by winning by a hundred,
• 28:39
  two hundred points.
• 28:41
  But with this field,
• 28:43
  the next few years are
• 28:45
  going to be determined by
• 28:47
  the little things.
• 28:49
  So we better buckle up and
• 28:50
  strap in because that's the
• 28:52
  way it's going to be.
• 28:53
  You're going to have to be
• 28:54
  on a hundred percent of the
• 28:56
  time or you're going to lose.
• 29:09
  Lito says, okay,
• 29:11
  but what about playing
• 29:12
  devil's advocate here?
• 29:13
  He only won because of our
• 29:14
  choice of scoring system.
• 29:16
  Ricky wins in P scoring and
• 29:18
  James comes in fourth.
• 29:20
  Okay.
• 29:21
  Lito, have we ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 29:25
  ever used P scoring as
• 29:27
  scoring an event in CrossFit?
• 29:30
  No.
• 29:32
  So that is a hypothetical that has never,
• 29:34
  ever existed.
• 29:40
  Never existed.
• 29:41
  Bringing that what if in is insanity.
• 29:45
  This is the way scoring has been forever.
• 29:51
  It is game scoring.
• 29:53
  It is called game scoring,
• 29:55
  and it's been there for a long time.
• 30:01
  The little things always mean something.
• 30:04
  Die for points, as Medeiros says.
• 30:07
  Yeah, every placement matters.
• 30:10
  And isn't that what makes it fun?
• 30:13
  Seeing people leap feet
• 30:15
  first over the landing area
• 30:18
  to get their chip timer
• 30:20
  over before anybody else
• 30:22
  was fun all weekend.
• 30:28
  Because every placement matters.
• 30:34
  Jason didn't win because
• 30:35
  something happened to somebody else.
• 30:37
  He made it through the weekend,
• 30:39
  and he scored the most points.
• 30:41
  At the end of the day,
• 30:43
  one team or one person
• 30:45
  scores more points than the other,
• 30:47
  and they are determined the champion.
• 30:51
  And that's what happened.
• 30:53
  Sarah Cooper, FP score.
• 30:58
  If there becomes a
• 30:59
  competition or a series of
• 31:01
  competitions that use P
• 31:03
  score or Z score or whatever that is,
• 31:07
  then that becomes the scoring of choice.
• 31:10
  Then we can talk about those
• 31:11
  types of things.
• 31:13
  But right now,
• 31:13
  the only competition that I
• 31:16
  know of that uses those is crash.
• 31:33
  So, Lita,
• 31:35
  when you come to the CrossFit
• 31:36
  Games to do play the
• 31:38
  Masters CrossFit Games,
• 31:40
  you're going to be scored
• 31:41
  on game scoring.
• 31:50
  Lito,
• 31:51
  Madaris jumping to the finish line on
• 31:53
  Running Isabel, which we didn't see,
• 31:55
  by the way,
• 31:55
  literally cost James second place.
• 31:58
  It was actually,
• 31:59
  he jumped to the finish
• 32:01
  line on the rope climb thruster event.
• 32:06
  Madaris passed everybody on
• 32:08
  the walking lunge,
• 32:10
  and then he jump slid in
• 32:12
  across the line a tenth of
• 32:15
  a second ahead of James,
• 32:16
  and that cost James second place.
• 32:29
  Yep.
• 32:30
  Every point counts.
• 32:33
  Every point counts.
• 32:34
  Because James was in third by one point.
• 32:40
  And James, of all people, knows.
• 32:43
  James, what was it,
• 32:44
  three years ago at Syndicate Crown,
• 32:47
  had an eighty-one point
• 32:48
  lead to get into the CrossFit Games.
• 32:52
  And ended up losing that by
• 32:54
  one point on the final event.
• 32:59
  Will Morad beat him by
• 33:00
  eighty two points on the
• 33:02
  final event and got his
• 33:04
  ticket to the CrossFit Games.
• 33:07
  James Sprague knows all too
• 33:09
  well about those one points,
• 33:12
  and that's why you see him
• 33:14
  slide feet first so many
• 33:16
  times into the finish zone.
• 33:28
  there were two events where
• 33:29
  justin lost a place by
• 33:31
  millisecond wonder where he
• 33:33
  would have ended up had he
• 33:34
  had a higher placement in
• 33:35
  those two events well
• 33:40
  justin won the last event
• 33:43
  so which two events would
• 33:44
  that have been meredith
• 33:53
  Ricky Mack blaming the
• 33:54
  pegboards for second place
• 33:55
  when he took twenty third
• 33:57
  on the back squat and said
• 33:58
  out loud that he hates squatting is wild.
• 34:04
  What was the final point difference?
• 34:09
  It couldn't have been much.
• 34:14
  I'm looking it up here.
• 34:22
  so Ricky ended up losing by
• 34:24
  fourteen points there's
• 34:27
  what a three points five
• 34:30
  spots Ricky would have to
• 34:33
  made up five spots and to
• 34:41
  be clear I like Ricky I
• 34:43
  like Ricky too but like you
• 34:45
  can't come out on the
• 34:46
  podium and complain that
• 34:47
  you because he could have
• 34:49
  made up those points on other events
• 34:55
  I'm surprised he didn't beat
• 34:56
  Jeff Adler in the first event.
• 35:03
  You can make up those places
• 35:05
  all over the leaderboard.
• 35:07
  It doesn't have to be on one
• 35:08
  event here or there.
• 35:11
  Maybe look at the what-ifs in the mirror.
• 35:19
  Lito says,
• 35:19
  I'm not trying to change the
• 35:20
  scoring system or anything.
• 35:22
  I was just being philosophical about it.
• 35:25
  The scoring system is, after all,
• 35:26
  a construction,
• 35:28
  and changing that can change everything.
• 35:31
  It can.
• 35:40
  In the end, what ifs are fun,
• 35:42
  but that's all they are.
• 35:43
  The winner's the winner.
• 35:45
  I think that's my biggest point.
• 35:48
  We can what-if this all we want,
• 35:50
  and it is fun to speculate.
• 35:53
  If this would have happened,
• 35:54
  this would have happened.
• 35:55
  But as a competitor,
• 35:58
  to blame the what-ifs for
• 36:00
  why you didn't win,
• 36:04
  I am sure that Jason Hopper would say,
• 36:07
  if I didn't drop the
• 36:08
  barbell at the end of event
• 36:10
  nine and lose those four spots,
• 36:14
  the pegboard would have been irrelevant.
• 36:19
  Everybody has a what if in
• 36:21
  their bag from the weekend.
• 36:26
  And when you stack them all
• 36:27
  on top of each other,
• 36:28
  at the end of the day,
• 36:29
  you probably get to the
• 36:29
  same solution or the same answer.
• 36:38
  Mark Phillips, what ifs are for the fans?
• 36:41
  They are.
• 36:42
  But the problem is they're
• 36:43
  creeping into the competitors.
• 36:48
  We have Ricky doing the what-ifs.
• 36:50
  We had Roman doing the
• 36:51
  what-ifs a couple years ago.
• 36:53
  We had everybody doing the
• 36:55
  what-ifs to James.
• 36:59
  The happiest person I'm for
• 37:00
  after this weekend is James Sprague.
• 37:03
  To go from winning the games
• 37:05
  to a podium finish was awesome.
• 37:09
  Throw in a little
• 37:10
  Wadapalooza win in the middle there.
• 37:13
  He's had a pretty damn good
• 37:14
  year and hopefully
• 37:16
  established himself as one
• 37:18
  of the elite athletes in the sport.
• 37:24
  And people can stop what
• 37:25
  if-ing his win because he earned it,
• 37:29
  he did what he was meant to do,
• 37:32
  and he came out the victor.
• 37:39
  Sprague validated his win last year.
• 37:42
  I agree.
• 37:43
  Mark, he erased his asterisks in my mind.
• 37:52
  Hopper failing his last
• 37:53
  snatch twice may have been
• 37:55
  the most exciting thing of the weekend.
• 37:57
  Not going to lie.
• 38:00
  The arena was on its feet
• 38:02
  when that was happening.
• 38:05
  But four people passed him
• 38:07
  when he did that.
• 38:08
  So he has his own what if.
• 38:14
  Right?
• 38:23
  A lot of people owe James
• 38:24
  Sprague an apology.
• 38:37
  Doug,
• 38:38
  if Sprague had an asterisk on his win,
• 38:40
  then Frazier would have to
• 38:41
  have one on his last win.
• 38:43
  Five people is not enough to
• 38:44
  test the fittest.
• 38:48
  Let's not put asterisks on anybody.
• 38:52
  I think asterisks are just
• 38:53
  as bad as what ifs.
• 38:59
  Now,
• 39:00
  can an analyst look at twenty twenty
• 39:03
  and what happened there?
• 39:07
  bump it is not as a bit,
• 39:08
  not as big of a win as other years.
• 39:13
  I think that can happen.
• 39:14
  Twenty nineteen and all the cuts, I think,
• 39:17
  make that top ten seem a
• 39:19
  little sketchy in my mind
• 39:21
  as I'm analyzing like the
• 39:23
  greatest of all time.
• 39:27
  But I think Matt Frazier has
• 39:29
  Matt Frazier had a row of
• 39:31
  success going into that
• 39:33
  twenty twenty season and
• 39:35
  that removed all asterisks.
• 39:39
  It was just the culmination of a career.
• 39:48
  And he did win by almost
• 39:50
  doubling everybody's score.
• 39:59
  The last thing I'm just
• 40:00
  going to talk about is
• 40:02
  What I find funny is as
• 40:04
  you're watching the weekend go on,
• 40:07
  everybody was watching Tia going, man,
• 40:10
  she's not dominating like she used to.
• 40:12
  She's not dominating like she used to.
• 40:15
  And then at the end of the weekend,
• 40:17
  she was two hundred points
• 40:19
  better than anybody else.
• 40:23
  I think what's crazy is.
• 40:27
  She was people were pushing
• 40:30
  Tia all weekend long.
• 40:33
  But every event was a
• 40:35
  different person pushing Tia.
• 40:38
  Danielle pushed her on this event.
• 40:41
  Lucy pushed her on this event.
• 40:43
  Olivia pushed her on this event.
• 40:46
  Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 40:49
  There's not one athlete that
• 40:51
  can push Tia on everything.
• 40:54
  So at the end of the weekend,
• 40:56
  she's killing it.
• 41:03
  But as you're watching it, you're going,
• 41:04
  man,
• 41:05
  there are people really close to Tia
• 41:07
  on this event.
• 41:08
  There are people really
• 41:09
  close to Tia on this event.
• 41:12
  So it's funny because it's
• 41:15
  like the field has caught
• 41:18
  up to her on one event here,
• 41:22
  one event there, one event there,
• 41:24
  but it's all different people.
• 41:30
  She dominated but looked mortal somehow.
• 41:32
  Exactly.
• 41:36
  Exactly.
• 41:41
  I think the Lucy thing
• 41:42
  looked crazy because Tia
• 41:46
  failed a handstand walk,
• 41:48
  and we just don't see that very often.
• 41:52
  Lucy pushed the pace on that
• 41:54
  event specifically.
• 41:56
  Tia tried to keep up and failed a rep.
• 41:59
  And we just don't ever see that happen.
• 42:03
  But at the end of the day,
• 42:04
  Tia still took third in that event.
• 42:07
  So the event that someone
• 42:09
  went head to head with her,
• 42:11
  she got ninety four points.
• 42:18
  You know,
• 42:18
  Olivia went toe to toe with her
• 42:21
  on the last event,
• 42:22
  but Tia took what second?
• 42:30
  Third, Leah took third.
• 42:38
  Crazy.
• 42:46
  So, yeah.
• 42:51
  The stadium erupted.
• 42:52
  It was crazy.
• 42:57
  Historically,
• 42:57
  compared to the great
• 42:58
  handstand walkers on the women's side,
• 42:59
  Tia hasn't been fantastic.
• 43:02
  Lucky for her, it's one event.
• 43:05
  Yeah, lucky for her,
• 43:06
  she had to figure out that
• 43:09
  third place finish.
• 43:17
  I mean, other than the pegboard event,
• 43:19
  her lowest finish was fourth.
• 43:22
  There's no middling going on there.
• 43:27
  She ain't retiring either.
• 43:32
  I mean, in the past,
• 43:32
  she'd say it and then walk it back.
• 43:37
  This year, she didn't even say it.
• 43:46
  As she said in that road to the games,
• 43:48
  nothing feels like that
• 43:50
  fire and it's too hard to retire.
• 44:00
  Nine hundred and two points
• 44:02
  out of a possible one
• 44:03
  thousand is Crazy Town Banana Pants.
• 44:08
  It is.
• 44:13
  It is.
• 44:14
  There's no one like her.
• 44:16
  What did we say on Sunday
• 44:17
  Night CrossFit Talk a couple weeks ago?
• 44:20
  Tia will never retire and
• 44:22
  she will win ten championships.
• 44:26
  I think that is definitely
• 44:29
  in the cards fiona I love
• 44:39
  tia one I didn't get her
• 44:41
  not figuring out the
• 44:42
  pegboard though what was up
• 44:45
  with those like with the
• 44:46
  legless the fact that she
• 44:48
  could just do them legless
• 44:51
  shows you what an
• 44:52
  incredible athlete she is
• 44:57
  I think that was more
• 44:58
  impressive than her
• 45:00
  figuring it out to win.
• 45:06
  And still finished middle of the pack,
• 45:08
  going strict legless.
• 45:17
  She's going for a high rocks
• 45:18
  CrossFit slam.
• 45:19
  I don't think she is.
• 45:23
  I don't think high rocks
• 45:23
  gave her the feeling that CrossFit does.
• 45:27
  And I think I heard her say
• 45:29
  somewhere on something that
• 45:34
  only giving herself four
• 45:35
  weeks to ramp up for the games,
• 45:37
  she will never do again.
• 45:46
  The only way she retires is
• 45:48
  if she gets pregnant again.
• 45:50
  But even then,
• 45:50
  I bet she could have another
• 45:52
  kid then come back and still win it.
• 46:09
  The way she talked about the other comp,
• 46:12
  it did in her interview
• 46:12
  suggest otherwise.
• 46:20
  I don't know which direction
• 46:21
  you're agreeing with there, Corey,
• 46:23
  but okay.
• 46:31
  I loved that she...
• 46:35
  You know,
• 46:35
  a lot of people said the vibe was
• 46:38
  so cool at the games
• 46:39
  because everybody there
• 46:42
  wanted to be there.
• 46:44
  And I felt that.
• 46:45
  I felt that a lot.
• 46:47
  That everybody that was
• 46:48
  there wanted to be there.
• 46:51
  And Tia's speech at the end
• 46:54
  kind of emphasizing that a
• 46:59
  little bit more,
• 47:01
  that people really wanted to be there.
• 47:04
  and thanked the games team
• 47:06
  and Dave for putting it on,
• 47:12
  I thought that was pretty
• 47:16
  epic of her to do.
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  Because Tia really in her
• 47:21
  past has not taken a side in most things.
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  And I think she was
• 47:26
  definitely taking a side at
• 47:28
  the end of the CrossFit Games.
• 47:31
  And I think there's an excitement
• 47:34
  Because I do think the sale is final.
• 47:38
  And I do think that they've
• 47:40
  already been given some
• 47:41
  direction as to where that's going to go.
• 47:46
  Because we have open dates
• 47:49
  earlier than we've ever had them.
• 47:53
  I heard that the venue for
• 47:55
  next year is almost a done
• 47:57
  deal for the CrossFit Games.
• 48:03
  The new merch is freaking amazing.
• 48:07
  The vibes are amazing.
• 48:11
  If we can catch this wave
• 48:17
  and really focus on what's
• 48:19
  important in the CrossFit space,
• 48:22
  I think this can move
• 48:23
  forward in a way where we
• 48:25
  all see a great amount of benefit.
• 48:34
  was a class act so mad mike
• 48:43
  a cut her off she was about
• 48:45
  to elaborate on her
• 48:45
  statement she took a side
• 48:53
  and I was happy to hear it
• 48:53
  because it's the side of crossfit
• 48:59
  I love Tia's speech at the end, too,
• 49:01
  and I love that she thanked
• 49:02
  Dave and CrossFit.
• 49:03
  She will be back.
• 49:04
  She put credit where credit is due.
• 49:10
  You missed the open dates?
• 49:16
  Fiona, so I so agree with you.
• 49:18
  Everything was amazing this year.
• 49:26
  said it first scott it's
• 49:27
  almost as if competition
• 49:28
  with the wfp is a good
• 49:30
  thing I have way more to
• 49:33
  say about the wfp after
• 49:34
  being around the athletes
• 49:36
  this weekend I just have to
• 49:39
  organize kind of my
• 49:39
  thoughts and it actually
• 49:42
  goes around the next
• 49:43
  monologue I want to do
• 49:44
  which is um why crossfit can't be killed
• 49:55
  And I do think the
• 49:56
  competition has been good.
• 49:58
  I do think it's pushed them
• 50:00
  to tidy up the ship.
• 50:02
  It may be what they needed,
• 50:04
  a good little kick in the pants.
• 50:08
  Do I think they'll ever
• 50:09
  admit that that's what did it?
• 50:11
  Probably not.
• 50:14
  But I do think it's what they needed.
• 50:22
  CrossFit turned the corner.
• 50:24
  This was a year of shedding dead weight.
• 50:30
  I'm glad Corey found them.
• 50:31
  February, the open begins.
• 50:39
  So we end the season.
• 50:43
  We have a new champion on the men's side.
• 50:46
  And I think it is possible
• 50:49
  that we don't have another
• 50:50
  repeat champion for the
• 50:52
  next five years because of
• 50:54
  just what we've talked about.
• 50:56
  It is so close.
• 50:57
  Every point matters.
• 50:59
  It's going to be crazy the
• 51:00
  next five years.
• 51:13
  WFP is shaking in their boots,
• 51:14
  wishing they took that meeting with Dave.
• 51:18
  WFP popped out a one-hour video.
• 51:19
  Thoughts?
• 51:21
  So I heard, and I have not seen,
• 51:24
  that they put out two
• 51:24
  videos while I was at the games.
• 51:30
  If they put out after... If
• 51:35
  that's when you choose to
• 51:38
  put out your videos is
• 51:39
  during the CrossFit Games...
• 51:42
  when literally I'm the
• 51:44
  biggest Bears fan in the world,
• 51:46
  I shut off my Bears feed
• 51:48
  for the weekend to focus on
• 51:49
  what I'm doing at the CrossFit Games.
• 51:52
  I'm not watching anybody else's stuff.
• 51:54
  I'm watching the CrossFit Games.
• 51:56
  I'm watching the recap shows.
• 51:58
  I'm watching the preview shows.
• 52:00
  I'm watching the action on the floor.
• 52:02
  I'm not watching other people's videos.
• 52:04
  That's when you decide to put it out.
• 52:06
  You had four months of nothing.
• 52:09
  where you could have been
• 52:10
  putting out content left and right,
• 52:13
  pumping up your athletes,
• 52:15
  doing all that stuff,
• 52:16
  and I don't need to go
• 52:17
  through that all again.
• 52:20
  And then you wait until
• 52:21
  people start pointing that
• 52:23
  out to you to put out two
• 52:25
  videos during the biggest
• 52:27
  event in CrossFit during
• 52:28
  the season when nobody's
• 52:30
  going to watch that shit.
• 52:33
  Nobody.
• 52:36
  Are you kidding me?
• 52:41
  I'm telling you, the more I hear,
• 52:47
  the less I am excited about
• 52:50
  what WFP has got going on.
• 52:55
  I wanted to believe they
• 52:56
  could show us what a
• 52:58
  streamlined season looked like.
• 53:00
  I wanted to believe that
• 53:02
  they had the best interests at heart.
• 53:06
  I just don't think they do anymore.
• 53:10
  I'm losing faith by the second.
• 53:15
  And they're doing nothing to
• 53:16
  pull me back in.
• 53:24
  It's almost like every second matters.
• 53:27
  It'd be a good name for a documentary.
• 53:30
  I think someone's already done it.
• 53:40
  With that, guys,
• 53:43
  I have the rest of the day off.
• 53:44
  I'm going to be back to work tomorrow,
• 53:47
  and we'll do some lunch
• 53:49
  hours the rest of the week.
• 53:51
  I'll be here with Corey tomorrow,
• 53:52
  then here Thursday and Friday,
• 53:54
  and we'll get this thing
• 53:55
  all revved up again.
• 54:00
  What about them putting out
• 54:01
  posts about Hopper and Lucy
• 54:02
  Campbell and not even
• 54:04
  acknowledging their
• 54:04
  finishes at the games?
• 54:09
  I don't even think that
• 54:09
  deserves an answer.
• 54:11
  Very intended,
• 54:12
  the release of WFP videos be absent.
• 54:14
  It has CrossFit athletes in it.
• 54:17
  And you're right.
• 54:17
  I didn't watch it.
• 54:19
  I actually intentionally didn't watch it.
• 54:24
  Right.
• 54:24
  Like,
• 54:28
  even if I'm interested in looking at it,
• 54:30
  which I will watch them and
• 54:32
  review them and do all the
• 54:33
  stuff I always do,
• 54:34
  I'm not doing it until the
• 54:35
  weekend's over.
• 54:38
  Because on my docket,
• 54:40
  I've got to get this other
• 54:41
  stuff done first.
• 54:47
  And Corey's jazzed about tomorrow's show.
• 54:51
  Yeah, me too.
• 54:53
  Can't wait to catch up, Corey.
• 54:55
  And yeah, with that, guys.
• 55:01
  You knuckleheads get back to work.
• 55:03
  I'm going to go take the afternoon off.
• 55:06
  I'll see everybody tomorrow.
• 55:07
  Lunch with Clydesdale.
• 55:10
  Cajun Wednesday.