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Maryland 34, Purdue 29: Reaction with Jake Dunn (The Purdue Report, 3.138) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the Purdue report, Jake Duns, and my reaction to Purdue's 34 29 lost to Maryland on Saturday.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's only on the Sunday and a sports report.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Coming up on Wednesday, Jake and my reaction to Purdue's win over Illinois State and Minns Basketball on Monday night.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, Jake, we buried the headline because I don't really want to talk about Purdue football, but it is the headline right now, of course.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's unpleasant, again, defensive coordinators gone that seemed inevitable after Saturday's debacle.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the fallout seems like it might be just starting because I don't see another win out there.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I first going to be pretty fairly large underdogs in all the rest of their games.
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is probably the worst loss in the Buryodomera, and even agreed to that in the post game press conference.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said that you would agree that this was the least the most devastating loss Maryland was two and six on a
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: six game losing streak at not wanting him the conference.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Had an interim head coach and just fired their head coach a few weeks earlier, you know, that Purdue on home coming, you know, produce favored favor by I think it's about a touchdown earlier in the weekend and up, being your online closing around four and a half or five and a half points, but Purdue was was a your favor in this game.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: this is just another team that when they play Purdue, you know, coming into the game, they're not looking very hot, so it gets Washington, so it gets Penn State.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now, you know, seeing it here, it's Maryland where the teams are kind of, you know, back into a corner and they play for you and, you know, look, they play a lot better than what they did playing recently.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it seems like they've had produced several longer schedules for good reason.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think changes definitely needed to be made by all accounts of Kevin Caves is a great guy, but just sort of reason has not been able to have success here at Purdue.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that whoever the next defensive coordinator can be, can be a guy that, you know, this staff believes in Mike sheer last year.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: season that produces is going to be the, you know, the third defensive coordinator in three years.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just hope for some continuity there, some stability and I think we don't need to see.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: tank, but you've already gotten progress for this year with winning one more game that he did last year, but the wheels are kind of falling off here on the plot, it's some serious regress, Jake.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Illinois and Minnesota have proven to not be horrible teams that produce both fairly easily.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the part of it.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the record.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the obvious watching it, not just the results because of who they've lost to, watching it, how bad the regresses.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The offense does not look like the offense we saw early in the season.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: The defense had the couple games there that they worked pretty good in the first half of the Maryland game.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: They looked okay, they forced turnover,
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: your Maryland to seven points and if they just the game would have been over a half time we could have praised the defense.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the offences in ability to score touchdowns in the red zone, they could score in the red zone.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty good about doing that just by field goals and not touchdowns.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So get a score touchdowns to win games, especially
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: chance to even be remotely competitive with the rest of the teams left on the schedule.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if there'll be any offensive staff changes this off season.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I hope that next year, as long as Purdue can retain a lot of these, you know, good guys, they'd be able to bring into the portal.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would hope that somehow Purdue can be better offensively and the red zones that's really
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the defense has been bad, has been a stop people.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But here lately, anyway, the offense has been able to score touchdowns in the red zone.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's been a, some of them they struggled with all year.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the story of the first half was the red zone offense, the story of the second half was the defense and the big plays and ineptness.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So where do they go from here?
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: What should the solution be?
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that Purdue can hire somebody.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that there has experience at the defensive coordinator position that has proven success at some lower ranks, or even if it is a kind of a high division one BS team.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you need a guy who can do more with less
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: because talent wise, yes, Purdue does have some talent on the roster, but just even thinking historically, guys like, I'll focus on the offense.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have time on defense.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll focus on offense here, because that's going to mind first, but guys like, you know, Aiden O'Connell, he was a walk-on that came in and had a very good career at Purdue.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, just still a backup.
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the NFL, he's not a guy that you're walking to Purdue with a lot of talent.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys like Zander Horvath, he again was a guy who, you don't almost want to eye you to be a linebacker.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys like David Mockaby, who was a walk on burnt his earned his degree earned a scholarship.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the previous coaching staffs, he mainly just was able to, to schematically find ways
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: played it to their strengths and you create advantages through the team that he had rather than and kind of seems like now the game plan is taking you know these players who a lot of them are not as talented as the players on the other team and just hope that they can execute better.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't always seem like Jake let me ask the question the way I should have asked it should we be
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think how the team finishes this season will be strong test towards that last year.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mainly we talked about how the ridewalkers only got two years there, especially at the end.
• 7:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to relate the whole season of his second season.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just compounding regression like every week it saved.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And sounds familiar.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, well, this isn't the same exact scenario.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Walters was also a first year at Coach.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the guys that he surrounded himself with were not the best coaches, not the best people, either from things I've heard and read, but with Barry, I don't like Barry, I don't know how his experience is seeing the head coach has experienced being a defensive coordinator
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: on his staff who have some more experience in similar positions.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that regression.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even the record.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just the regression.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: The talent, it doesn't matter what the talent level is.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If the team gets worse throughout the year, you've got to raise the concern.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely a fair and justified concern to be raised, telling McClow and did not hire Gary Odom or anyone on the staff.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: If that was
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: something that Tommy wants to do.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's nothing, you're tying those two together.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want to be cautious about the kind of signal or an a picture it could paint for perspective.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Head coaches, you'll only get two years at Purdue, and if you don't have success, you're out of here.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just a kind of an expectation, shouldn't it?
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it depends on how those two years go.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: If there's regression at the end of your second year, yeah, you're going to be fired.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the, I don't see a problem with that being the expectation.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we're seeing progress at the end of the second year, no matter what your record is, we're going to put up with it, but would we foresee an regression at the end of your second year?
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that should be the expectation.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You may be get fired.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, keep Coach Odom, but I did not say in that they should necessarily get rid of him.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that it's a now topic of discussion because of how bad things have gotten here lately.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Coach Odom also was the one who went out and hired Kevin Caine, as he did.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, when he was rehired as a produced offensive coordinator, there was a lot
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... for which which was just a fine and on the show as well from you yeah yeah um... you did not like it when it happened it just can approve to to be in that you know uh... and not a very smart move and let's see cut of coach against former teams every week exactly
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was kind of weird when I brought it up.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yeah, well, unless it's just the two teams who was a plating coach with the last couple of years, that seemed like kind of a joke.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But turned out, maybe that was the case.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's only good when he can know the other team's scheme.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where Perigos are here.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could be happy with Coach Oren being retained.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could also be okay with him being fired too,
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think with all of the coordinators that Peru has had to depart ways with rainwalkers, Scram Parallel, now Kevin came for the second time.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I were to bury them too, I mean, you're going to be paying more and fired coaches and you're paying your current coaches.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the cycle can get out of hand.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think from Peru,
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think from a competitive standpoint with like in IL and you know revenue sharing all that the pros are to kind of behind me, ball there, check if you can find your coaches, keep having to pay them and know them more money.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just kind of add more fuel to the fire.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the problem with all that Jake is what's going on down south and how much that's changed the culture down there.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you can catch that lightning in a bottle, which we clearly haven't
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be the best case scenario and it's happening down there.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why cannot happen up here is kind of the problem with all of that.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure, I agree.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say it, but it changes the formula.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What Kerr'signity is doing at IU changes the formula for what's happening at Purdue.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just,
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to, depending on what happens in the last three games and again, I'm looking at the schedule and those three teams are better than the last three teams that Purdue just lost to and being realistic and we're talking about a three in 19 with serious regression and and you might just have to make that decision.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not advocating it particularly at this point, but I particularly when we were saying three weeks ago, literally three weeks ago, Jake, that his long-term future is sealed and delivered at Purdue if the win this game at Penn today.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now here we are three weeks later, and we're talking about no future if things go as we expect.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: other people in the central Indiana sports report family who were calling for a period of statute to be built.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just funny how it's working.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, change.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: is Jake things so much as always.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of glad we didn't record on the weekend because that wouldn't have been very much fun.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tonight was a little better.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Although you're right about, I don't know, 12 minutes left in the game.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, ooh, I'm a goodness, because still a noise state team wasn't even playing very well and it was really close and uh, I was worried they were going to lose this game and then they look very completely different team
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: has very much NCA potential, very much competing for at least the top three, four spot and the big ten potential at the end of the game and that certainly changed my mood.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So glad the basketball team was able to get back on track and also one thing that we should note about football, the schedule, the nine conference schedule.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: with a, there's a pause and the series with Notre Dame and, for you, if you remember, you were great in a close series for remember from earlier in the year when the UNC series, I think in the base we kind of rescheduled it for later, probably going to get canceled if I had to guess that series, but that was pushbacks that we had with both series as being pause, rescheduled, having more phrase that,
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have two open slots for the 227 Schedule per new, who's able to schedule you Albany from New York there and FCS team.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'll be coming to Rossade and then per new is able to schedule a series with West Virginia.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So sometime it'll be around Labor Day weekend per new will be traveling to more
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: with the following season or somewhat in the near future, the mountaineers will be making a return trip to Ross 8 Stadium.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you go from, you know, I think it might be Ohio is the other non-conference game.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you go from having Miamiville, Ohio, UNC, and Notre Dame as you're not conference schedule to Miamiville, Ohio, FCS team, you Albany, and at West Virginia, which they're another power 14,
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are certainly nowhere near the stature of Notre Dame.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So certainly, I think moves like that are good.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: As for anyone, the program gets better.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, certainly, fire up the series with Notre Dame again.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in the current state of mind, there's just no need to continue that series.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But aren't you saying when you do that, we're not gonna be good enough next year?
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: aren't you admitting that you're not going to be good enough again in your third season?
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are you going to sell?
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Recruits that you know you're making progress when you're, you know, getting your key kicked in every year by a. I guess by building a facade, I guess is the way you want to do that.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's I get it.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of schools are doing even successful ones are dumbing down their schedules and I get it.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: but it's basically telling Purdue fans we're not gonna be good enough to compete again next year.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why even try?
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You brought up by you, I mean, I, you traditionally here are the past couple of years.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they, they have not really playing anybody in there, not the conference schedule.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not even a West Virginia level team, so yeah.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can't say anything.
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of SEC teams have done that through the years
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not saying it's not the right thing to do necessarily.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying you're basically telling your fan base.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to suck again next year.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to be able to even compete with Notre Dame.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So don't even bother.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I'm sorry, it just feels like Purdue football, man.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good way to end it.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I wouldn't give for the years of Jeff Brown.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was very young when Joe Taylor.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was like, just born when Joe Taylor was pretty much the head coach of Purdue.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the not great Joe Taylor years.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, everybody only had like one, you know, pretty solid coach.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you'd be a pretty football fan.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love Jeff Prom so yeah, the only thing about Jeff Prom that was bad was you always knew he was going to go to Louisville or even somewhere else Yeah, you just always knew and That was kind of the sad part with him with Joe Taylor.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You knew he wasn't going anywhere You know That was the great thing about his era was he was you know He was a Purdue guy through and through and you just
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: As much as Brom loved being produced head coach and he, you could tell that he did, you always knew that Louisville or somewhere else was going to come calling.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to find our guy, Jake.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope it's very old.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have one of my doubts.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like everybody, yes.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Jake for his time.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake and I will be back in less than 24 hours with his and my reaction to produce first basketball win that he sees an over.
• 19:06
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, let's see.