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- 0:55One
- 0:55thing
- 0:55that
- 0:56is
- 0:56unchanging
- 0:57midst
- 0:58all
- 0:58of
- 0:58these
- 0:59changes
- 0:59is
- 1:00Middlesex.
- 1:01It
- 1:01remains.
- 1:02It's
- 1:03there.
- 1:04It's
- 1:04our
- 1:05identity,
- 1:05it's
- 1:06our
- 1:06history,
- 1:07it's
- 1:07our
- 1:07geography.
- 1:08It's
- 1:09part
- 1:09of
- 1:09our
- 1:09life.
- 1:10And
- 1:10I
- 1:11urge
- 1:11everybody
- 1:12to
- 1:12preserve
- 1:13this.
- 1:14Look
- 1:14after
- 1:14this.
- 1:15If
- 1:15you're
- 1:15proud
- 1:16of
- 1:16being
- 1:16English
- 1:17or
- 1:17British,
- 1:18be
- 1:18equally
- 1:19proud
- 1:19of
- 1:19being
- 1:20from
- 1:20Middlesex.
- 1:22Hello
- 1:22and
- 1:22welcome
- 1:23to
- 1:23the
- 1:23Sheppertonian.
- 1:24I'm
- 1:24Gareth
- 1:25and
- 1:25this
- 1:25is
- 1:25the
- 1:25local
- 1:26podcast
- 1:26bringing
- 1:27you
- 1:27stories,
- 1:27voices
- 1:28and
- 1:28events
- 1:29from
- 1:29in
- 1:29and
- 1:29around
- 1:29Shepparton
- 1:30in
- 1:30Middlesex.
- 1:31That's
- 1:31Middlesex
- 1:32rather
- 1:32than
- 1:33Surrey
- 1:33and
- 1:33I'll
- 1:33let
- 1:34today's
- 1:34guest
- 1:34explain
- 1:35what
- 1:35the
- 1:35difference
- 1:35is.
- 1:36But
- 1:36before
- 1:36we
- 1:37get
- 1:37into
- 1:37today's
- 1:38episode,
- 1:38a
- 1:38huge
- 1:38thank
- 1:39you
- 1:39to
- 1:39the
- 1:39local
- 1:40businesses
- 1:40supporting
- 1:41the
- 1:41Sheppertonian
- 1:42through
- 1:42the
- 1:42Business
- 1:42Club
- 1:43Partners.
- 1:43The
- 1:44Ferry
- 1:44Coffee
- 1:44Shop
- 1:44down
- 1:45at
- 1:45Shepperton
- 1:45Lock,
- 1:45a
- 1:46wonderful
- 1:46space
- 1:46for
- 1:47meeting
- 1:47friends
- 1:48or
- 1:48colleagues,
- 1:49meetings
- 1:49Meon
- 1:49Media,
- 1:50small
- 1:50business
- 1:50support
- 1:51based
- 1:51here
- 1:51in
- 1:51Shepperton,
- 1:52offering
- 1:52flexible
- 1:53support
- 1:53to
- 1:53keep
- 1:54things
- 1:54running
- 1:54smoothly
- 1:55in
- 1:55your
- 1:55business.
- 1:56And
- 1:56the
- 1:56Sound
- 1:56Boutique,
- 1:57thoughtful
- 1:57audio
- 1:58for
- 1:58every
- 1:58story.
- 1:59And
- 1:59to
- 1:59Island
- 2:00Motors,
- 2:00a
- 2:00business
- 2:01club
- 2:01member
- 2:01who
- 2:02offers
- 2:02local
- 2:02mot
- 2:03and
- 2:03servicing.
- 2:04LuvBiltong,
- 2:05a
- 2:05better
- 2:05for
- 2:06you
- 2:06snack.
- 2:06Whole
- 2:06food
- 2:07protein
- 2:07with
- 2:07real
- 2:08flavour,
- 2:08natural
- 2:09ingredients,
- 2:09grass
- 2:09fed
- 2:10beef,
- 2:10conveniently
- 2:11packaged.
- 2:11Trust
- 2:12me,
- 2:12try
- 2:12the
- 2:12Chakalaka,
- 2:13it's
- 2:14delicious.
- 2:15Their
- 2:15backing
- 2:15makes
- 2:16this
- 2:16podcast
- 2:16possible
- 2:17and
- 2:17I'm
- 2:17genuinely
- 2:18grateful
- 2:18for
- 2:18every
- 2:19one
- 2:19of
- 2:19them.
- 2:19If
- 2:19you'd
- 2:20like
- 2:20to
- 2:20find
- 2:20out
- 2:20more
- 2:20or
- 2:21get
- 2:21involved,
- 2:21head
- 2:22to
- 2:22thesheppertonian.uk
- 2:23and
- 2:24take
- 2:24a
- 2:24look
- 2:24at
- 2:24the
- 2:25business
- 2:25club
- 2:25page.
- 2:26A
- 2:26couple
- 2:26of
- 2:26things
- 2:27worth
- 2:27knowing
- 2:27about
- 2:27before
- 2:28we
- 2:28start.
- 2:28If
- 2:28you're
- 2:29part
- 2:29of
- 2:29a
- 2:29local
- 2:29community
- 2:30group
- 2:30or
- 2:31you
- 2:31know,
- 2:31one
- 2:31that
- 2:31deserves
- 2:32a
- 2:32bit
- 2:32more
- 2:32visibility,
- 2:33we
- 2:34have
- 2:34a
- 2:34community
- 2:34groups
- 2:35page
- 2:35at
- 2:35www.thesheppertonian.uk.
- 2:37It's
- 2:37free
- 2:38to
- 2:38be
- 2:38listed
- 2:38and
- 2:39it's
- 2:39a
- 2:39growing
- 2:39directory
- 2:40of
- 2:40what's
- 2:40happening
- 2:41across
- 2:41the
- 2:41area.
- 2:42We're
- 2:42we
- 2:42also
- 2:43now
- 2:43have
- 2:43a
- 2:43community
- 2:44resources
- 2:45page
- 2:46at
- 2:46thesheppertonian.uk
- 2:47which
- 2:47is
- 2:47worth
- 2:48bookmarking
- 2:48if
- 2:48you
- 2:49ever
- 2:49need
- 2:49to
- 2:49find
- 2:49local
- 2:50support
- 2:50quickly.
- 2:51And
- 2:51the
- 2:52Sheppertonian
- 2:53Live!
- 2:53On
- 2:53Wednesday
- 2:543rd
- 2:54June,
- 2:55we're
- 2:55recording
- 2:55two
- 2:56live
- 2:56podcast
- 2:56episodes
- 2:57in
- 2:57front
- 2:57of
- 2:57an
- 2:57audience
- 2:58at
- 2:58Bishop
- 2:58Duppas
- 2:59Bowls
- 2:59Club
- 2:59in
- 2:59Shepperton.
- 3:00Doors
- 3:01at
- 3:017.
- 3:01First
- 3:01episode
- 3:02is
- 3:02at
- 3:027:40.
- 3:03It's
- 3:03free.
- 3:04It's
- 3:04a
- 3:04proper
- 3:04evening
- 3:05out
- 3:05with
- 3:05a
- 3:05bar
- 3:06and
- 3:06tickets
- 3:07are
- 3:07via
- 3:07the
- 3:07link
- 3:07in
- 3:08the
- 3:08show
- 3:08notes
- 3:08or
- 3:08via
- 3:09the
- 3:09events
- 3:09page
- 3:10on
- 3:10the
- 3:10website.
- 3:11Now
- 3:11today's
- 3:12episode.
- 3:13Surrey's
- 3:13local
- 3:14government
- 3:14is
- 3:14going
- 3:15through
- 3:15its
- 3:15biggest
- 3:16upheaval
- 3:16in
- 3:1650
- 3:17years.
- 3:17Two
- 3:18unitary
- 3:18authorities
- 3:19are
- 3:19replacing
- 3:19the
- 3:19existing
- 3:20system
- 3:21and
- 3:21while
- 3:21we've
- 3:21already
- 3:22covered
- 3:22what
- 3:22that
- 3:23means
- 3:23structurally
- 3:24in
- 3:24an
- 3:24earlier
- 3:24episode
- 3:25with
- 3:25two
- 3:25local
- 3:26councillors.
- 3:27There's
- 3:27a
- 3:27dimension
- 3:27to
- 3:28this
- 3:28story
- 3:28that
- 3:28goes
- 3:29much
- 3:29deeper
- 3:29than
- 3:30council
- 3:30boundaries
- 3:31and
- 3:31bin
- 3:31collections.
- 3:32It's
- 3:33a
- 3:33question
- 3:33of
- 3:34identity,
- 3:34of
- 3:35belonging,
- 3:35of
- 3:36what
- 3:36happens
- 3:36to
- 3:36a
- 3:37place's
- 3:37sense
- 3:37of
- 3:37itself
- 3:38when
- 3:39the
- 3:39structures
- 3:39around
- 3:40it
- 3:40are
- 3:40redrawn.
- 3:41My
- 3:41guest
- 3:42today
- 3:42has
- 3:42been
- 3:42asking
- 3:43that
- 3:43question
- 3:43for
- 3:44most
- 3:44of
- 3:44his
- 3:44adult
- 3:44life.
- 3:45He's
- 3:45the
- 3:45founder
- 3:45of
- 3:46the
- 3:46Association
- 3:46of
- 3:46British
- 3:47Counties,
- 3:48author
- 3:48of
- 3:48The
- 3:49Real
- 3:49Counties
- 3:49of
- 3:49Britain,
- 3:50and
- 3:50the
- 3:51Lord
- 3:51of
- 3:51the
- 3:51Manor
- 3:51of
- 3:52Ashford
- 3:52in
- 3:52Middlesex.
- 3:53He's
- 3:54also
- 3:54a
- 3:54television
- 3:54personality.
- 3:55Oh,
- 3:56and
- 3:56he's
- 3:56one
- 3:56of
- 3:57the
- 3:57UK's
- 3:57best
- 3:57known
- 3:58astrologers.
- 3:59He
- 3:59also
- 3:59has
- 3:59a
- 3:59personal
- 4:00connection
- 4:00to
- 4:00Shepperton
- 4:01that
- 4:01goes
- 4:01back
- 4:02decades
- 4:02and
- 4:02a
- 4:03very
- 4:03specific
- 4:04stake
- 4:04in
- 4:04what
- 4:04happens
- 4:05next.
- 4:06I
- 4:06had
- 4:06the
- 4:06pleasure
- 4:06of
- 4:06spending
- 4:07time
- 4:07with
- 4:07a
- 4:08wonderful
- 4:08person
- 4:09that
- 4:09is
- 4:09Russell
- 4:10Grant.
- 4:10Thank
- 4:11you,
- 4:11Gareth,
- 4:12for
- 4:12bringing
- 4:13me
- 4:13onto
- 4:13the
- 4:13Sheppertonian,
- 4:14which
- 4:14I
- 4:15have
- 4:15been
- 4:16listening
- 4:16to
- 4:17for
- 4:17quite
- 4:17a
- 4:18while.
- 4:18I'm
- 4:19delighted
- 4:19to
- 4:19be
- 4:19on
- 4:20here
- 4:20and
- 4:20to
- 4:20explain
- 4:21a
- 4:21few
- 4:21things.
- 4:22Russell's
- 4:22roots
- 4:23in
- 4:23this
- 4:23part
- 4:23of
- 4:23the
- 4:23world
- 4:24go
- 4:24back
- 4:24a
- 4:24long
- 4:24way
- 4:25and
- 4:25they're
- 4:25anything
- 4:26but
- 4:26abstract.
- 4:26It
- 4:27goes
- 4:27back
- 4:27to
- 4:27the
- 4:271950s,
- 4:29when
- 4:29my
- 4:29nan
- 4:30used
- 4:31to
- 4:31take
- 4:31us
- 4:32on
- 4:32on
- 4:32a
- 4:33bus
- 4:34from
- 4:34Uxbridge,
- 4:35the
- 4:35old
- 4:35224.
- 4:36I
- 4:36used
- 4:36to
- 4:36go
- 4:36down
- 4:37to
- 4:37Laleham
- 4:37Broadway
- 4:38and
- 4:38we
- 4:39used
- 4:39to
- 4:39get
- 4:39off
- 4:39at
- 4:39Staines
- 4:40and
- 4:40do
- 4:40our
- 4:41shopping
- 4:41there.
- 4:41I
- 4:42mean,
- 4:42Staines,
- 4:42a
- 4:43glorious
- 4:43market
- 4:44town.
- 4:44My
- 4:44it's
- 4:45changed
- 4:45now.
- 4:46And
- 4:47when
- 4:47I
- 4:47was
- 4:47living
- 4:48in
- 4:48Staines
- 4:49in
- 4:49the
- 4:4980s
- 4:49and
- 4:5090s,
- 4:51I
- 4:51lived
- 4:52there
- 4:52for
- 4:5225
- 4:53years.
- 4:53And
- 4:55I
- 4:56loved
- 4:56it.
- 4:56I
- 4:56love
- 4:57crossing
- 4:57the
- 4:57bridge.
- 4:59I
- 4:59used
- 4:59to
- 4:59love
- 5:00just
- 5:00walking
- 5:01to
- 5:01the
- 5:01Middlesex
- 5:02Chronicle
- 5:02office
- 5:03in
- 5:03Church
- 5:04Street.
- 5:05So
- 5:06many
- 5:06happy
- 5:06memories.
- 5:08And
- 5:08the
- 5:08reason
- 5:08I
- 5:09wanted
- 5:09to
- 5:09live
- 5:10there
- 5:10goes
- 5:10back
- 5:11to
- 5:11the
- 5:1150s.
- 5:12Cause
- 5:12I
- 5:12had
- 5:12such
- 5:12a
- 5:12wonderful,
- 5:13jolly
- 5:14time
- 5:14when
- 5:14Nan
- 5:15used
- 5:15to
- 5:16bring
- 5:16me
- 5:16on
- 5:16the
- 5:16bus
- 5:17and
- 5:18we
- 5:18used
- 5:18to
- 5:18get
- 5:18off
- 5:19at
- 5:19Staines
- 5:20and
- 5:21I
- 5:22thought,
- 5:22oh,
- 5:22goodness
- 5:23me,
- 5:23I
- 5:23want
- 5:23to
- 5:23live
- 5:23there.
- 5:24And
- 5:24that's
- 5:24why
- 5:25I
- 5:25did.
- 5:25In
- 5:25fact,
- 5:25I
- 5:25lived
- 5:26in
- 5:26Staines
- 5:28longer
- 5:28than
- 5:28any
- 5:29other
- 5:29part
- 5:30of
- 5:30the
- 5:30world
- 5:30I've
- 5:31ever
- 5:31lived.
- 5:31His
- 5:32connection
- 5:32to
- 5:32this
- 5:32part
- 5:33of
- 5:33Middlesex
- 5:33runs
- 5:34through
- 5:34his
- 5:34family
- 5:34too,
- 5:35all
- 5:35the
- 5:36way
- 5:36to
- 5:36Shepperton
- 5:37Studios.
- 5:38My
- 5:38uncle
- 5:38John
- 5:39started
- 5:40off
- 5:40his
- 5:40movie
- 5:41career
- 5:41in
- 5:41Shepperton
- 5:42Studios,
- 5:43and
- 5:44I
- 5:44think
- 5:45he
- 5:45was
- 5:45nothing
- 5:45more
- 5:46than
- 5:46a
- 5:46tea
- 5:46bo
- 5:47there,
- 5:47from
- 5:47what
- 5:47I
- 5:48gather.
- 5:48But
- 5:48he
- 5:49grew
- 5:49up
- 5:49through
- 5:49the
- 5:50ranks,
- 5:50assistant
- 5:50director,
- 5:53producer,
- 5:53all
- 5:54kinds
- 5:54of
- 5:54things.
- 5:55But
- 5:55he
- 5:55went
- 5:56on
- 5:56to
- 5:56win
- 5:56an
- 5:57Oscar
- 5:57for
- 5:58the
- 5:58Deer
- 5:58Hunter.
- 6:00And
- 6:00that
- 6:00all
- 6:00began
- 6:01at
- 6:01Shepperton
- 6:02Studios.
- 6:03And
- 6:04then
- 6:04when
- 6:04I
- 6:04bought
- 6:04my
- 6:05book
- 6:05out,
- 6:05The
- 6:05Real
- 6:05Counties
- 6:06of
- 6:06Britain,
- 6:07which
- 6:08became
- 6:08a
- 6:08bestseller.
- 6:09And
- 6:10I
- 6:10got
- 6:10a
- 6:10call
- 6:10from
- 6:11Channel
- 6:115
- 6:11and
- 6:12Sky
- 6:12TV,
- 6:12a
- 6:13lady
- 6:13called
- 6:13Dawn
- 6:14Airy,
- 6:15who
- 6:15was
- 6:15very
- 6:16high
- 6:16up
- 6:17there,
- 6:18in
- 6:18fact,
- 6:18she
- 6:19was
- 6:20Head
- 6:20of
- 6:20Programmes,
- 6:21Commissioner,
- 6:22and
- 6:22she
- 6:23said,
- 6:23could
- 6:23you
- 6:23make
- 6:24me
- 6:24a
- 6:24TV
- 6:25series
- 6:25of
- 6:25your
- 6:26book,
- 6:26Real
- 6:26Counties
- 6:27of
- 6:27Britain?
- 6:28I
- 6:28said,
- 6:28I'd
- 6:29love
- 6:29to.
- 6:30And
- 6:30it
- 6:30was
- 6:31produced
- 6:31from
- 6:32Shepperton
- 6:32by
- 6:33Vicki
- 6:33Sharp.
- 6:34We
- 6:34had
- 6:34an
- 6:34office
- 6:35at
- 6:35Shepperton
- 6:36Studios,
- 6:37so
- 6:37all
- 6:37of
- 6:37those
- 6:38little
- 6:38programmes
- 6:39that
- 6:39went
- 6:39out
- 6:39and
- 6:40are
- 6:40still
- 6:40on
- 6:40YouTube,
- 6:41and
- 6:42some
- 6:42we've
- 6:42put
- 6:42on
- 6:43our
- 6:43Facebook
- 6:43group,
- 6:44our
- 6:44South
- 6:44Middlesex
- 6:45Facebook
- 6:46group.
- 6:46You
- 6:46can
- 6:47still
- 6:47see
- 6:47some
- 6:47of
- 6:48them.
- 6:48You
- 6:48see,
- 6:48for
- 6:48instance,
- 6:49dear
- 6:49Nick
- 6:50Pollard,
- 6:51a
- 6:52shining
- 6:52light
- 6:52in.
- 6:53In
- 6:53Shepperton,
- 6:54of
- 6:54course.
- 6:55I
- 6:55mean,
- 6:55looking
- 6:56so
- 6:56young.
- 6:56I
- 6:57don't
- 6:57really
- 6:57think
- 6:57he
- 6:58believed
- 6:58himself.
- 6:58I
- 6:59think
- 6:59he
- 6:59put
- 6:59on
- 7:00Facebook.
- 7:00I
- 7:00didn't
- 7:01realise
- 7:01I
- 7:01was
- 7:01so
- 7:02ginger
- 7:02or
- 7:03something
- 7:03like
- 7:04that.
- 7:04He'd
- 7:04written
- 7:05and.
- 7:06But
- 7:06we
- 7:06made
- 7:06those
- 7:07in
- 7:07the
- 7:07late
- 7:081990s
- 7:09and
- 7:09early
- 7:102000s.
- 7:11So
- 7:12all
- 7:12of
- 7:12that
- 7:12began
- 7:13at
- 7:13Shepperton.
- 7:14And
- 7:14I
- 7:15still
- 7:16maintain
- 7:16my
- 7:17links
- 7:17with
- 7:17the
- 7:17area.
- 7:18I
- 7:18love
- 7:18it.
- 7:19I
- 7:19want
- 7:19to
- 7:20move
- 7:20back.
- 7:21And
- 7:21my
- 7:22big,
- 7:22big
- 7:23promise
- 7:24to
- 7:25my
- 7:25many
- 7:25friends
- 7:26there
- 7:27is
- 7:27that
- 7:27if
- 7:27we
- 7:28do
- 7:28get
- 7:28to
- 7:28South
- 7:28Middlesex
- 7:29in
- 7:29the
- 7:29name,
- 7:29I'm
- 7:30coming
- 7:30back
- 7:30to
- 7:31live.
- 7:31Russell's
- 7:32personal
- 7:32connection
- 7:32to
- 7:33the
- 7:33area
- 7:33eventually
- 7:34became
- 7:34something
- 7:34bigger,
- 7:35in
- 7:35fact,
- 7:36a
- 7:36lifelong
- 7:36campaign.
- 7:37And
- 7:38the
- 7:38moment
- 7:38it
- 7:38all
- 7:38shifted
- 7:39began
- 7:39with
- 7:39a
- 7:40lunch
- 7:40invitation
- 7:41and
- 7:41a
- 7:41Prime
- 7:41Minister
- 7:42who
- 7:42said
- 7:42something
- 7:43he's
- 7:43never
- 7:43forgotten.
- 7:44I
- 7:44got
- 7:45into
- 7:45this
- 7:45whole
- 7:46campaign
- 7:47because
- 7:47of
- 7:48Mrs.
- 7:48Margaret
- 7:49Thatcher
- 7:49as
- 7:49Prime
- 7:50Minister,
- 7:51and
- 7:51I
- 7:52went
- 7:52in
- 7:531987
- 7:54for
- 7:54a
- 7:55lunch
- 7:56because
- 7:56I
- 7:57was
- 7:57doing
- 7:57a
- 7:57lot
- 7:57of
- 7:58work
- 7:58in
- 7:58various
- 7:59areas,
- 7:59and
- 8:00I
- 8:00was
- 8:00invited
- 8:00by
- 8:01Sir
- 8:01Basil
- 8:01Feldman,
- 8:02who
- 8:02was
- 8:02the
- 8:02Conservative
- 8:03chairman,
- 8:04and
- 8:05he
- 8:05invited
- 8:05me
- 8:06along
- 8:06to
- 8:06meet
- 8:06her.
- 8:06And
- 8:07I
- 8:07never
- 8:07forget
- 8:08when
- 8:08she
- 8:08said,
- 8:08where
- 8:09do
- 8:09you
- 8:09come
- 8:09from?
- 8:09I
- 8:09said,
- 8:10well,
- 8:10I
- 8:10actually
- 8:11come
- 8:11from
- 8:12Uxbridge
- 8:13in
- 8:13Middlesex,
- 8:14but
- 8:14I'm
- 8:14living
- 8:14in
- 8:15Staines.
- 8:16I
- 8:16said,
- 8:16but
- 8:17you've
- 8:17taken
- 8:17away
- 8:17Middlesex.
- 8:18And
- 8:18she
- 8:19turned
- 8:19to
- 8:19me
- 8:19and
- 8:19I
- 8:19never
- 8:20forget.
- 8:20And
- 8:20she
- 8:20went,
- 8:21what
- 8:21on
- 8:21earth
- 8:21makes
- 8:22you
- 8:22think
- 8:23that
- 8:23the
- 8:24abolition
- 8:25of
- 8:25a
- 8:25county
- 8:26council
- 8:26is
- 8:27the
- 8:27abolition
- 8:28of
- 8:28a
- 8:28county?
- 8:29They're
- 8:29two
- 8:30completely
- 8:30separate
- 8:31things.
- 8:32She
- 8:32said,
- 8:33what
- 8:33Parliament
- 8:34didn't
- 8:34create,
- 8:34it
- 8:35cannot
- 8:35abolish.
- 8:35And
- 8:36we
- 8:36never
- 8:36created
- 8:37counties.
- 8:38You
- 8:38can
- 8:38go
- 8:38way,
- 8:39way
- 8:39back.
- 8:39She
- 8:40said
- 8:40to
- 8:40Alfred
- 8:41the
- 8:41Great.
- 8:41She
- 8:42knew.
- 8:43And
- 8:43from
- 8:44that
- 8:44moment
- 8:44on,
- 8:46I
- 8:46realized
- 8:47that
- 8:48I
- 8:48was
- 8:48no
- 8:49longer
- 8:50living
- 8:50in
- 8:51a
- 8:51Staines
- 8:52that
- 8:52had
- 8:53an
- 8:53abolished
- 8:53Middlesex
- 8:54attachment.
- 8:55It
- 8:55was
- 8:56still
- 8:56there.
- 8:57Staines,
- 8:57Middlesex
- 8:58was
- 8:59still
- 8:59there.
- 8:59That
- 9:00distinction
- 9:00between
- 9:01a
- 9:01county
- 9:01council
- 9:02and
- 9:02the
- 9:02county
- 9:03itself
- 9:03is
- 9:03the
- 9:04foundation
- 9:04of
- 9:04everything
- 9:05Russell
- 9:05has
- 9:05spent
- 9:06decades
- 9:06arguing.
- 9:07And
- 9:07with
- 9:07Surrey's
- 9:08own
- 9:08councils
- 9:08about
- 9:09to
- 9:09be
- 9:09abolished,
- 9:10it's
- 9:10never
- 9:10been
- 9:10more
- 9:11relevant.
- 9:11People
- 9:11should
- 9:12understand
- 9:13that
- 9:13next
- 9:14year,
- 9:15in
- 9:15April
- 9:15next
- 9:16year,
- 9:16the
- 9:17borough
- 9:17of
- 9:17Spelthorne
- 9:18will
- 9:18be
- 9:18abolished
- 9:19and
- 9:20Surrey
- 9:20County
- 9:21Council
- 9:21will
- 9:22be
- 9:22abolished.
- 9:23That's
- 9:24important
- 9:24to
- 9:25understand
- 9:25because
- 9:26in
- 9:261965,
- 9:28Middlesex
- 9:29County
- 9:29Council
- 9:30was
- 9:30abolished
- 9:31and
- 9:32people
- 9:32assumed
- 9:33that
- 9:33Middlesex
- 9:34no
- 9:34longer
- 9:35exists.
- 9:36But
- 9:36it
- 9:36was
- 9:36only
- 9:37Middlesex
- 9:38County
- 9:38Council
- 9:39that
- 9:39was
- 9:39abolished,
- 9:40not
- 9:40Middlesex.
- 9:41As
- 9:42next
- 9:42year,
- 9:43when
- 9:43Surrey
- 9:44County
- 9:44Council
- 9:45is
- 9:45abolished,
- 9:46as
- 9:46Middlesex
- 9:47was
- 9:47in
- 9:4765,
- 9:48does
- 9:49that
- 9:49mean
- 9:49there
- 9:49will
- 9:50be
- 9:50no
- 9:50Surrey?
- 9:51Of
- 9:51course
- 9:51it
- 9:52doesn't.
- 9:53So
- 9:53therefore,
- 9:53if
- 9:53you
- 9:54apply
- 9:54the
- 9:54same
- 9:55yardstick
- 9:56to
- 9:56Middlesex
- 9:57in
- 9:5765
- 9:58to
- 9:58Surrey
- 9:59in
- 9:592027,
- 10:00it
- 10:01is
- 10:01only
- 10:01the
- 10:02county
- 10:02councils
- 10:03that
- 10:03will
- 10:03be
- 10:03abolished.
- 10:05As
- 10:05historic
- 10:06Middlesex
- 10:06continues
- 10:07to
- 10:07exist,
- 10:09so
- 10:09historic
- 10:09Surrey
- 10:10will
- 10:10continue
- 10:11to
- 10:11exist.
- 10:12And
- 10:12the
- 10:12difference
- 10:13is
- 10:13enormous.
- 10:14If
- 10:14you
- 10:15follow
- 10:15the
- 10:15boundary
- 10:16of
- 10:16the
- 10:16Thames
- 10:17or
- 10:17the
- 10:17River
- 10:17Thames,
- 10:18that
- 10:19is
- 10:19the
- 10:19boundary
- 10:20between
- 10:20Middlesex
- 10:21and
- 10:21Surrey
- 10:21and
- 10:22has
- 10:22been
- 10:22for
- 10:23over
- 10:23a
- 10:23thousand
- 10:24years,
- 10:25that
- 10:26has
- 10:26never
- 10:26changed.
- 10:27You
- 10:27can't
- 10:28change
- 10:28geography
- 10:29as
- 10:30equally,
- 10:30you
- 10:31can't
- 10:31change
- 10:32history.
- 10:33What
- 10:33many
- 10:33people
- 10:34don't
- 10:34understand
- 10:35is,
- 10:36is
- 10:36that
- 10:36Middlesex
- 10:37is
- 10:37older
- 10:38than
- 10:38England.
- 10:40England
- 10:40was
- 10:41created
- 10:43around
- 10:43100
- 10:44years
- 10:44after
- 10:45Middlesex
- 10:46was
- 10:46first
- 10:46documented.
- 10:47We
- 10:48know
- 10:48that
- 10:48Middlesex
- 10:49was
- 10:49first
- 10:49mentioned
- 10:50in
- 10:50documentation
- 10:51in
- 10:51704
- 10:52AD,
- 10:53but
- 10:54actually
- 10:54we
- 10:55also
- 10:55know
- 10:55that
- 10:56Middlesex
- 10:56was
- 10:56created
- 10:57100
- 10:57years
- 10:58before
- 10:58that,
- 10:58the
- 10:59land
- 10:59of
- 10:59the
- 10:59Middlesaxons
- 11:01and
- 11:01Surrey.
- 11:03And
- 11:03we
- 11:03know
- 11:03it
- 11:03means
- 11:04susrij,
- 11:05which
- 11:05means
- 11:06southern
- 11:06region.
- 11:08And
- 11:08it
- 11:08was
- 11:08either
- 11:08the
- 11:09southern
- 11:09region
- 11:10of
- 11:10Middlesex,
- 11:11which
- 11:12would
- 11:12make
- 11:12sense
- 11:13because
- 11:13they
- 11:13border
- 11:14each
- 11:15other,
- 11:15or
- 11:16the
- 11:16southern
- 11:16region
- 11:17of
- 11:17the
- 11:17kingdom
- 11:18of
- 11:18Essex,
- 11:19of
- 11:20which
- 11:20the
- 11:20Middle
- 11:21Saxons
- 11:21and
- 11:21East
- 11:22Saxons
- 11:22both
- 11:23formed
- 11:23a
- 11:23part
- 11:24of.
- 11:24And
- 11:25so
- 11:25therefore
- 11:26Surrey
- 11:27was
- 11:27a
- 11:28southern
- 11:28region
- 11:29of
- 11:29these
- 11:30Saxon
- 11:30areas.
- 11:31And
- 11:31that
- 11:31Surrey
- 11:32part
- 11:32of
- 11:33probably
- 11:33only
- 11:33went
- 11:34as
- 11:34far
- 11:34as
- 11:34the
- 11:34North
- 11:35Downs,
- 11:36because
- 11:36the
- 11:36South
- 11:37Downs
- 11:37are
- 11:37in
- 11:37Sussex.
- 11:38And
- 11:39so
- 11:39that
- 11:39area
- 11:40between
- 11:41the
- 11:41South
- 11:42Downs
- 11:42and
- 11:42the
- 11:43North
- 11:43Downs
- 11:44is
- 11:45most
- 11:45probably
- 11:46part
- 11:46of
- 11:46the
- 11:46kingdom
- 11:47of
- 11:47Sussex,
- 11:48the
- 11:48South
- 11:48Saxons.
- 11:50So
- 11:51you
- 11:51can
- 11:52begin
- 11:52to
- 11:52see
- 11:52the
- 11:53complication.
- 11:54You
- 11:54can
- 11:55begin
- 11:55to
- 11:55see
- 11:56the
- 11:56history,
- 11:57magnificent
- 11:58history.
- 11:59And
- 11:59the
- 12:00reason
- 12:00why
- 12:01identity
- 12:02is
- 12:02so
- 12:02important
- 12:03on
- 12:04one
- 12:04level
- 12:04is
- 12:05because
- 12:05it
- 12:05is
- 12:06a
- 12:06part
- 12:06of
- 12:06ourselves.
- 12:07It's
- 12:08a
- 12:08part
- 12:08of
- 12:08our
- 12:08heritage,
- 12:09it's
- 12:09a
- 12:10part
- 12:10of
- 12:10where
- 12:10we've
- 12:10come
- 12:11from.
- 12:12There
- 12:12is
- 12:12a
- 12:12huge
- 12:13rise
- 12:13in
- 12:13the
- 12:13moment
- 12:14in
- 12:14people's
- 12:15love
- 12:15of
- 12:15genealogy.
- 12:16We
- 12:17should
- 12:17remember
- 12:18that
- 12:18many
- 12:18clubs,
- 12:19groups
- 12:19and
- 12:20organisations,
- 12:21whether
- 12:21it's
- 12:21the
- 12:22Middlesex
- 12:23Federation
- 12:24of
- 12:24WIs,
- 12:26all
- 12:26of
- 12:26the
- 12:26Spelthorne,
- 12:27WIs
- 12:28belong
- 12:28to
- 12:28the
- 12:29Middlesex
- 12:29Federation.
- 12:31Whether
- 12:31it's
- 12:32the
- 12:32football
- 12:33clubs,
- 12:33Staines
- 12:34Lammas,
- 12:34Middlesex,
- 12:35Ashford
- 12:36Town,
- 12:36Middlesex,
- 12:37Spelthorne
- 12:38Sports,
- 12:39they're
- 12:39all
- 12:40parented
- 12:41to
- 12:41the
- 12:41Middlesex
- 12:42County
- 12:42Football
- 12:43Association.
- 12:44So
- 12:44therefore
- 12:45Middlesex
- 12:46is
- 12:46active,
- 12:47it
- 12:47is
- 12:47not
- 12:48dying.
- 12:49So
- 12:50I
- 12:50would
- 12:50like
- 12:51to
- 12:51to
- 12:51make
- 12:52a
- 12:52plea
- 12:52now
- 12:53to
- 12:53everybody
- 12:54who's
- 12:54listening,
- 12:55who
- 12:56may
- 12:56be
- 12:56suspicious
- 12:57or
- 12:58cautious
- 12:59or
- 13:01not
- 13:01even
- 13:01approving
- 13:02of
- 13:03having
- 13:03South
- 13:04Middlesex.
- 13:05In
- 13:05the
- 13:05name
- 13:06of
- 13:06the
- 13:06new
- 13:06council,
- 13:08I
- 13:08would
- 13:08urge
- 13:09you
- 13:09and
- 13:10plead
- 13:10with
- 13:11you,
- 13:11that
- 13:11for
- 13:12many
- 13:12of
- 13:12us,
- 13:13our
- 13:13history,
- 13:14where
- 13:15we
- 13:15come
- 13:15from,
- 13:17that
- 13:17part
- 13:17of
- 13:18Middlesex
- 13:19which
- 13:19you
- 13:19now
- 13:19occupy
- 13:20to
- 13:20the
- 13:21north
- 13:21of
- 13:21the
- 13:21Thames,
- 13:23was
- 13:23never
- 13:23changed,
- 13:24it
- 13:24never
- 13:25altered.
- 13:26So
- 13:26it's
- 13:26about
- 13:27separating
- 13:27the
- 13:27County
- 13:28Council
- 13:28from
- 13:29the
- 13:29geographical
- 13:30and
- 13:30historic
- 13:31county.
- 13:31The
- 13:32campaign
- 13:32has
- 13:32been
- 13:32building
- 13:33quietly
- 13:33for
- 13:34years,
- 13:34but
- 13:34in
- 13:34the
- 13:35past
- 13:3512
- 13:35months,
- 13:36something
- 13:36has
- 13:36shifted.
- 13:37It's
- 13:37moved
- 13:37from
- 13:37heritage
- 13:38advocacy
- 13:39to
- 13:39live
- 13:39politics.
- 13:40We're
- 13:41delighted
- 13:41that
- 13:41the
- 13:42Spelthorne
- 13:43MP,
- 13:43Lincoln
- 13:44Jopp,
- 13:44has
- 13:44been
- 13:45very
- 13:45vocal
- 13:46in
- 13:47supporting
- 13:47us,
- 13:47actually,
- 13:48in
- 13:48the
- 13:48House
- 13:48of
- 13:49Commons
- 13:49itself.
- 13:50And
- 13:52he
- 13:52has
- 13:52a
- 13:53meeting
- 13:53coming
- 13:54up
- 13:54with
- 13:54the
- 13:55Minister
- 13:56for
- 13:56Local
- 13:57Government.
- 13:58Now,
- 13:58I
- 13:58believe
- 13:58that's
- 13:59either
- 13:59going
- 13:59to
- 13:59be
- 14:00the
- 14:01Minister
- 14:01for
- 14:02Local
- 14:02Government,
- 14:03Communities,
- 14:03et
- 14:04cetera,
- 14:04which
- 14:04is
- 14:05Steve
- 14:05Reed,
- 14:06mp,
- 14:07or
- 14:07the
- 14:07Minister
- 14:09for
- 14:10Local
- 14:10Government
- 14:11only,
- 14:11and
- 14:11that's
- 14:12Alison
- 14:12McGovern
- 14:14and
- 14:14she's
- 14:14MP
- 14:14for
- 14:15Birkenhead.
- 14:16We
- 14:17hope
- 14:17that
- 14:17obviously,
- 14:19because
- 14:20the
- 14:20proposal
- 14:21has
- 14:21to
- 14:21be
- 14:22and
- 14:22is
- 14:22cross
- 14:23party
- 14:23and
- 14:23apolitical,
- 14:25we
- 14:25will
- 14:25work
- 14:26with
- 14:26anyone
- 14:27who
- 14:27can
- 14:27give
- 14:28us
- 14:29our
- 14:29identity
- 14:30back
- 14:30and
- 14:31keep
- 14:31it
- 14:32there
- 14:32for
- 14:32as
- 14:32long
- 14:33as
- 14:33this
- 14:33particular
- 14:34council
- 14:34will
- 14:35last.
- 14:36And
- 14:36we
- 14:36were
- 14:37delighted
- 14:37that
- 14:37Robert
- 14:38Evans,
- 14:38the
- 14:38Labour
- 14:39councillor
- 14:40from
- 14:41Stanwell,
- 14:42he
- 14:43put
- 14:43forward
- 14:43a
- 14:44motion
- 14:45not
- 14:45so
- 14:45long
- 14:46ago
- 14:46to
- 14:47Surrey
- 14:47County
- 14:47Council,
- 14:48but
- 14:48of
- 14:49course
- 14:49they're
- 14:49going
- 14:49to
- 14:49be
- 14:50abolished
- 14:50anyway,
- 14:51so
- 14:52to
- 14:52have
- 14:52all
- 14:53of
- 14:53that
- 14:53support.
- 14:55And
- 14:55I
- 14:55believe
- 14:56that
- 14:56the
- 14:56Spelthorn
- 14:57Liberal
- 14:58Democrats
- 14:58have
- 14:59it
- 14:59on
- 14:59their
- 14:59leaflets,
- 15:00which
- 15:01is
- 15:01very,
- 15:02very,
- 15:03very
- 15:03good.
- 15:04And
- 15:04if,
- 15:05in
- 15:05fact,
- 15:05if
- 15:05anybody
- 15:06out
- 15:06there
- 15:06listening
- 15:07to
- 15:07this
- 15:07has
- 15:07any
- 15:08leaflets
- 15:09that
- 15:09have
- 15:09actually
- 15:10got
- 15:11on
- 15:11the
- 15:11leaflet,
- 15:12we
- 15:13support
- 15:13the
- 15:13proposal
- 15:14for
- 15:14South
- 15:14Middlesex.
- 15:15We
- 15:15would
- 15:15love
- 15:16to
- 15:16hear
- 15:16from
- 15:16you
- 15:17on
- 15:17our
- 15:17Facebook
- 15:18group
- 15:18because
- 15:18we
- 15:19would
- 15:19love
- 15:19to
- 15:19put
- 15:19it
- 15:20up
- 15:20there.
- 15:20The
- 16:24momentum
- 16:25isn't
- 16:25just
- 16:25coming
- 16:25from
- 16:26party
- 16:26politics.
- 16:27Six
- 16:27residents
- 16:28from
- 16:28across
- 16:28the
- 16:28area
- 16:28took
- 16:29it
- 16:29upon
- 16:29themselves
- 16:29to
- 16:30go
- 16:30and
- 16:30make
- 16:30the
- 16:30case
- 16:31in
- 16:31person.
- 16:32They
- 16:32were
- 16:32from
- 16:33Staines,
- 16:34Stanwell,
- 16:35Ashford,
- 16:37Halliford,
- 16:39Sunbury
- 16:40and
- 16:40Shepperton.
- 16:42There
- 16:42was
- 16:42a
- 16:42meeting
- 16:43with
- 16:43Lincoln
- 16:43Jopp,
- 16:44which
- 16:44the
- 16:44residents
- 16:45themselves
- 16:46asked
- 16:46for.
- 16:47Nothing
- 16:47to
- 16:47do
- 16:47with
- 16:48me.
- 16:48They
- 16:49wanted
- 16:49to
- 16:49convince
- 16:50him
- 16:50that
- 16:50South
- 16:50Middlesex
- 16:51was
- 16:51the
- 16:51right
- 16:52name.
- 16:53And
- 16:53they
- 16:53rang
- 16:53me
- 16:54up
- 16:54and
- 16:54said,
- 16:54we
- 16:54can't
- 16:54find
- 16:55a
- 16:55venue,
- 16:55there's
- 16:56no
- 16:56venue
- 16:56to
- 16:56meet
- 16:57up
- 16:57with
- 16:57Lincoln
- 16:58Jopp.
- 16:59And
- 16:59I
- 16:59rang
- 16:59up
- 17:00Ashford
- 17:00Town
- 17:00Middlesex
- 17:01Football
- 17:02Club,
- 17:02and
- 17:03I
- 17:03said
- 17:03to
- 17:05a
- 17:05smashing
- 17:06guy
- 17:06there,
- 17:07known
- 17:07as
- 17:07Miyazi,
- 17:09and
- 17:10I
- 17:10said
- 17:10to
- 17:10him,
- 17:11have
- 17:11you
- 17:11got
- 17:11a
- 17:11room?
- 17:11He
- 17:12said,
- 17:12yes,
- 17:12of
- 17:12course
- 17:12we
- 17:13have.
- 17:13We've
- 17:13got
- 17:13a
- 17:13room
- 17:13with
- 17:13The
- 17:14Middlesex
- 17:14flag
- 17:14up.
- 17:15I
- 17:15said,
- 17:15perfect.
- 17:16So
- 17:16they
- 17:17all
- 17:17went
- 17:17there
- 17:19for
- 17:19the
- 17:19meeting
- 17:19and
- 17:20he
- 17:20came
- 17:21out
- 17:21of
- 17:21it.
- 17:22Well,
- 17:23I
- 17:23can't,
- 17:24you
- 17:24know,
- 17:24put
- 17:24words
- 17:25in
- 17:25his
- 17:25mouth,
- 17:25but
- 17:25let
- 17:25me
- 17:26put
- 17:26it
- 17:26like
- 17:26this.
- 17:26He
- 17:27came
- 17:27out
- 17:27so
- 17:27much
- 17:28of
- 17:28a
- 17:28changed
- 17:29man
- 17:29that
- 17:29he
- 17:29mentioned
- 17:30it
- 17:30in
- 17:30Parliament,
- 17:31which
- 17:31was
- 17:31fantastic.
- 17:32So
- 17:32that
- 17:32was
- 17:32down
- 17:33to
- 17:33the,
- 17:34the
- 17:34ladies
- 17:34and
- 17:35gentlemen
- 17:36of
- 17:36the
- 17:36various
- 17:37parishes
- 17:38of
- 17:38Spelthorne
- 17:39who
- 17:40arranged
- 17:40the
- 17:40meeting,
- 17:41went
- 17:41to
- 17:41the
- 17:42meeting.
- 17:43There
- 17:43is
- 17:44a
- 17:44lot
- 17:44of
- 17:44support
- 17:45out
- 17:45there
- 17:45and
- 17:45we
- 17:46know
- 17:46it.
- 17:46I
- 17:47mean,
- 17:47I
- 17:47had
- 17:47a
- 17:47thousand
- 17:48postcards
- 17:49published
- 17:50and
- 17:51printed
- 17:51and
- 17:52a
- 17:52very
- 17:52beautiful
- 17:53map
- 17:53of
- 17:54South
- 17:55Middlesex
- 17:56done
- 17:56by
- 17:58a
- 17:58best
- 17:58selling
- 17:58illustrator,
- 17:59an
- 17:59award
- 18:00winning
- 18:00illustrator
- 18:00called
- 18:01Aidan
- 18:01Megan.
- 18:02The
- 18:02South
- 18:02Middlesex
- 18:03campaign
- 18:04didn't
- 18:04come
- 18:04from
- 18:04nowhere.
- 18:05It's
- 18:05the
- 18:05latest
- 18:06chapter
- 18:06in
- 18:06a
- 18:06story
- 18:07Russell
- 18:07has
- 18:07been
- 18:08telling
- 18:08since
- 18:081987.
- 18:10A
- 18:10story
- 18:10that
- 18:11began
- 18:11with
- 18:11fan
- 18:12mail
- 18:12addressed
- 18:13to
- 18:13a
- 18:13TV
- 18:13astrologer.
- 18:14The
- 18:14Association
- 18:15of
- 18:15British
- 18:15Counties
- 18:16was
- 18:16founded
- 18:18by
- 18:18me,
- 18:19but
- 18:19I
- 18:19have
- 18:20no
- 18:20longer
- 18:20anything
- 18:21to
- 18:21do
- 18:21with
- 18:21it
- 18:22other
- 18:22than
- 18:23I'm
- 18:23just
- 18:23a
- 18:24member.
- 18:25It's
- 18:25now
- 18:25run
- 18:26from
- 18:26Cardiff,
- 18:26actually,
- 18:28and
- 18:28the
- 18:28Associated
- 18:29British
- 18:29Counties
- 18:30were
- 18:30brought
- 18:30together
- 18:31by
- 18:31me
- 18:32as
- 18:33a
- 18:33member
- 18:34or
- 18:35one
- 18:36of
- 18:36the
- 18:36founders.
- 18:36It
- 18:37wasn't
- 18:37just
- 18:37me,
- 18:38the
- 18:38founders
- 18:39of
- 18:39the
- 18:40Friends
- 18:40of
- 18:40the
- 18:40county
- 18:40of
- 18:41Middlesex.
- 18:42There
- 18:42was
- 18:42a
- 18:42chap
- 18:43in
- 18:44Staines
- 18:45called
- 18:45John
- 18:46Gazda,
- 18:47Steve
- 18:47Fenn
- 18:48from
- 18:48Potter's
- 18:48Bar,
- 18:49now
- 18:50a
- 18:50Professor
- 18:51Cliff
- 18:52Batten
- 18:52who's
- 18:53still
- 18:53around.
- 18:54Lovely,
- 18:54lovely
- 18:54Cliff,
- 18:55who
- 18:56was
- 18:56from
- 18:56Ewesli.
- 18:57Anyway,
- 18:58we
- 18:58all
- 18:58got
- 18:58together
- 18:59and
- 18:59founded
- 19:00the
- 19:00Friends
- 19:00of
- 19:00the
- 19:00county
- 19:01of
- 19:01Middlesex
- 19:01as
- 19:02a
- 19:02result
- 19:02of
- 19:02the
- 19:02Margaret
- 19:03Thatcher
- 19:04chat.
- 19:05And
- 19:06the
- 19:06Middlesex
- 19:07County
- 19:07Advertiser
- 19:08and
- 19:08Gazette
- 19:08at
- 19:09Uxbridge
- 19:09ran
- 19:09a
- 19:10story
- 19:10and
- 19:11all
- 19:11these
- 19:11people
- 19:12wrote
- 19:13in
- 19:13and
- 19:14basically
- 19:14said,
- 19:15oh,
- 19:15we
- 19:15want
- 19:16to
- 19:16know
- 19:16more
- 19:16about
- 19:16this.
- 19:17Is
- 19:17there
- 19:17a
- 19:17group
- 19:17we
- 19:18can
- 19:18join?
- 19:18But
- 19:19there
- 19:19was
- 19:19no
- 19:19social
- 19:19media
- 19:20in
- 19:201987,
- 19:2188.
- 19:23So
- 19:23we
- 19:23all
- 19:24got
- 19:24together
- 19:24and
- 19:24then
- 19:25I
- 19:25decided
- 19:26that
- 19:27as
- 19:27a
- 19:27result
- 19:27of
- 19:28that,
- 19:28wouldn't
- 19:28it
- 19:28be
- 19:29a
- 19:29good
- 19:29idea
- 19:29to
- 19:30reach
- 19:30out
- 19:30to
- 19:31the
- 19:31Yorkshire
- 19:32Riding
- 19:32Society
- 19:34and
- 19:35the
- 19:36Friends
- 19:36of
- 19:37Real
- 19:37Lancashire
- 19:39and
- 19:39all
- 19:39of
- 19:40these
- 19:40groups?
- 19:41In
- 19:41fact,
- 19:41I
- 19:42just
- 19:42suddenly.
- 19:43Well,
- 19:43in
- 19:43fact,
- 19:44I
- 19:44didn't
- 19:44even
- 19:44know
- 19:44they
- 19:45existed.
- 19:46There
- 19:46was
- 19:46a
- 19:47Huntingdonshire
- 19:48group,
- 19:49there
- 19:49were
- 19:50lots
- 19:50and
- 19:50lots
- 19:50of
- 19:51groups
- 19:51and
- 19:52they're
- 19:52still
- 19:52growing.
- 19:53And
- 19:54so
- 19:54I
- 19:55basically
- 19:55said
- 19:56to
- 19:56my
- 19:56friend
- 19:56Mike
- 19:57Bradford
- 19:58from
- 19:58the
- 19:58Yorkshire
- 19:59Riding
- 20:00Society,
- 20:01because
- 20:01we
- 20:01connected
- 20:02actually
- 20:03on
- 20:03breakfast
- 20:04telly,
- 20:04would
- 20:04you
- 20:04believe,
- 20:05when
- 20:06I
- 20:06was
- 20:06working
- 20:06on
- 20:06BBC
- 20:07Breakfast
- 20:08Time
- 20:09and
- 20:10he
- 20:10wrote
- 20:10me
- 20:11a
- 20:11letter,
- 20:13I
- 20:13used
- 20:13to
- 20:13get
- 20:13about
- 20:14a
- 20:14thousand
- 20:14letters
- 20:15a
- 20:15week,
- 20:15not
- 20:16just
- 20:16on
- 20:17Counties,
- 20:17trust
- 20:18me,
- 20:18it
- 20:18was
- 20:19more
- 20:19about
- 20:19how
- 20:19was
- 20:20it
- 20:20for
- 20:20Aries
- 20:21or
- 20:21is
- 20:22it
- 20:22a
- 20:22good
- 20:22year
- 20:22for
- 20:23Aquarius?
- 20:24But
- 20:24amidst
- 20:25them
- 20:25all
- 20:25there
- 20:25were
- 20:25all
- 20:26these
- 20:26people
- 20:26when
- 20:26I
- 20:27would
- 20:27go
- 20:27on
- 20:27and
- 20:27talk
- 20:28about
- 20:28the
- 20:29starlet
- 20:29of
- 20:29the
- 20:30day
- 20:30was
- 20:30from
- 20:30Grimsby
- 20:31in
- 20:31Lincolnshire,
- 20:33I
- 20:33would
- 20:33get
- 20:34maybe
- 20:3550,
- 20:3560,
- 20:3670
- 20:36letters
- 20:36from
- 20:37people
- 20:37in
- 20:37Grimsby
- 20:37saying,
- 20:38oh,
- 20:38you
- 20:38called
- 20:38us
- 20:38Lincolnshire.
- 20:39You
- 20:39didn't
- 20:39call
- 20:40us
- 20:40Humberside,
- 20:41we
- 20:41love
- 20:41you.
- 20:42And
- 20:43so
- 20:43that's
- 20:44how
- 20:44it
- 20:44began
- 20:45to
- 20:46happen
- 20:47that
- 20:48I
- 20:48suddenly
- 20:48realised
- 20:49there
- 20:49are
- 20:49all
- 20:49these
- 20:49groups
- 20:50out
- 20:50there
- 20:50and
- 20:50I
- 20:51didn't
- 20:51know.
- 20:51So
- 20:52I
- 20:52brought
- 20:52them
- 20:52all
- 20:53together.
- 20:53We
- 20:54had
- 20:54a
- 20:55get
- 20:55together
- 20:56and
- 20:57the
- 20:58association
- 20:58of
- 20:58British
- 20:59counties
- 20:59was
- 20:59formed
- 21:00by
- 21:00that.
- 21:01It's
- 21:01now
- 21:01Middlesex
- 21:02heritage.
- 21:02So
- 21:02we've
- 21:03been
- 21:03going
- 21:03for
- 21:03quite
- 21:03a
- 21:04long
- 21:04time.
- 21:04But
- 21:05now
- 21:06we
- 21:06are
- 21:07part
- 21:07of
- 21:07this
- 21:08bigger
- 21:09organisation,
- 21:09the
- 21:10association
- 21:10of
- 21:11British
- 21:11Counties,
- 21:12which
- 21:12brings
- 21:13together
- 21:14lots
- 21:14and
- 21:15lots
- 21:15and
- 21:15lots
- 21:16of
- 21:16counties
- 21:17all
- 21:17over
- 21:18Britain.
- 21:18So
- 21:18they
- 21:18all
- 21:18talk
- 21:19to
- 21:19each
- 21:19other.
- 21:20And
- 21:20as
- 21:20a
- 21:20result
- 21:21of
- 21:21that,
- 21:22in
- 21:23July
- 21:23every
- 21:24year,
- 21:26no
- 21:26matter
- 21:26which
- 21:27government
- 21:27is
- 21:28in
- 21:28power,
- 21:28we
- 21:28have
- 21:29the
- 21:29British
- 21:29county
- 21:30flag
- 21:30day.
- 21:31And
- 21:32on
- 21:32the
- 21:33green
- 21:34between
- 21:35the
- 21:35houses
- 21:36of
- 21:36parliament
- 21:37and
- 21:37the
- 21:37Middlesex
- 21:38Guildhall,
- 21:39they
- 21:39raised
- 21:40the
- 21:40county
- 21:40flags
- 21:41of
- 21:41every
- 21:42county
- 21:42in
- 21:43England
- 21:44up
- 21:44on
- 21:44the
- 21:44flagpole.
- 21:45But
- 21:45now,
- 21:46of
- 21:46course,
- 21:46it's
- 21:46spread
- 21:47out
- 21:47to
- 21:47Wales
- 21:47and
- 21:47Scotland
- 21:48too,
- 21:48so
- 21:48all
- 21:49the
- 21:49flags
- 21:49go
- 21:49up.
- 21:50So
- 21:50now
- 21:50we
- 21:50have
- 21:51Merioneth,
- 21:52we
- 21:52have
- 21:52King
- 21:53Cardinshire.
- 21:54All
- 21:55of
- 21:55these
- 21:55counties
- 21:56have
- 21:56been
- 21:56completely
- 21:57locked
- 21:58off
- 21:58at
- 21:58their
- 21:59stocking
- 21:59tops
- 22:00by
- 22:00local
- 22:01government
- 22:02change,
- 22:02but
- 22:03they
- 22:03never
- 22:03changed.
- 22:04So
- 22:04now
- 22:05we
- 22:05have
- 22:05the
- 22:05British
- 22:06county
- 22:07flags
- 22:07flying
- 22:08every
- 22:09July
- 22:11outside
- 22:12the
- 22:12Middlesex
- 22:13Guildhall,
- 22:13which
- 22:14you
- 22:14will
- 22:14know
- 22:14as
- 22:14the
- 22:14UK
- 22:15supreme
- 22:16court
- 22:17because
- 22:17that's
- 22:17what
- 22:18it
- 22:18became.
- 22:18But
- 22:19the
- 22:19Middlesex
- 22:20Guildhall
- 22:21was
- 22:21where
- 22:21Middlesex
- 22:22county
- 22:22council
- 22:22met.
- 22:24So
- 22:24that
- 22:24was
- 22:25our
- 22:25headquarters,
- 22:26Westminster.
- 22:26So
- 22:27Westminster
- 22:27was
- 22:28known
- 22:28as
- 22:28the
- 22:28administrative
- 22:29capital
- 22:29of
- 22:30Middlesex.
- 22:31And
- 22:31of
- 22:32course
- 22:32historically
- 22:33Westminster
- 22:34is
- 22:34still
- 22:34in
- 22:35Middlesex,
- 22:36north
- 22:36of
- 22:36the
- 22:37Thames.
- 22:37You
- 22:38know
- 22:38what?
- 22:38I
- 22:38didn't
- 22:39know
- 22:39that.
- 22:39For
- 22:40Russell,
- 22:40the
- 22:40campaign
- 22:41has
- 22:41never
- 22:41just
- 22:42been
- 22:42about
- 22:42names
- 22:42on
- 22:43signs
- 22:43or
- 22:43headings
- 22:44on
- 22:44letterheads.
- 22:45It's
- 22:45about
- 22:45what
- 22:45a
- 22:46community
- 22:46loses
- 22:47when
- 22:47it
- 22:47loses
- 22:47its
- 22:48sense
- 22:48of
- 22:48where
- 22:48it
- 22:49belongs.
- 22:50Staines,
- 22:50for
- 22:51instance,
- 22:52has
- 22:52altered
- 22:54terrifically.
- 22:55I
- 22:55think
- 22:56one
- 22:56of
- 22:56the
- 22:56things
- 22:57that
- 22:57we
- 22:57lost
- 22:58in
- 22:58Staines,
- 22:59I
- 22:59mean
- 22:59that
- 23:00wonderful
- 23:01town
- 23:01hall
- 23:01that
- 23:02we
- 23:02have
- 23:03was
- 23:04never
- 23:04really
- 23:04put
- 23:05to
- 23:05terrifically
- 23:06good
- 23:06use.
- 23:07It
- 23:08should
- 23:08have
- 23:08become
- 23:09a
- 23:09much
- 23:10more
- 23:10community
- 23:11based.
- 23:12But
- 23:12it's
- 23:12a
- 23:12lovely,
- 23:13wonderful
- 23:13old
- 23:14town
- 23:14hall.
- 23:15And
- 23:15I
- 23:15think
- 23:16once
- 23:16you
- 23:16start
- 23:17taking
- 23:17communities
- 23:18out
- 23:18and
- 23:19you
- 23:19have
- 23:19civic
- 23:20centres
- 23:21and
- 23:21all
- 23:21the
- 23:21rest,
- 23:22you
- 23:22begin
- 23:22to
- 23:23lose
- 23:23that
- 23:23bond
- 23:24that
- 23:24people
- 23:25have
- 23:25with
- 23:25their
- 23:26high
- 23:26street,
- 23:27with
- 23:27those
- 23:28areas
- 23:29of
- 23:29themselves
- 23:31that
- 23:31go
- 23:32back
- 23:32to
- 23:32that
- 23:33ancestry
- 23:34or
- 23:35me,
- 23:35my
- 23:36grandmother
- 23:36used
- 23:36to
- 23:36bring
- 23:36me
- 23:37to
- 23:37Staines.
- 23:39So
- 23:39they
- 23:39lose
- 23:39that
- 23:40contact
- 23:40within
- 23:41themselves
- 23:42of
- 23:42where
- 23:42they
- 23:42were
- 23:43born,
- 23:43where
- 23:43they
- 23:43were
- 23:44brought
- 23:44up
- 23:44and
- 23:45where
- 23:45they
- 23:45belong.
- 23:46And
- 23:46belonging
- 23:47is
- 23:47such
- 23:47an
- 23:48important
- 23:48part
- 23:49of
- 23:50anywhere,
- 23:51everything
- 23:52back
- 23:52to
- 23:53genealogy
- 23:55and
- 23:55ancestry
- 23:56of
- 23:56where
- 23:57we
- 23:57come
- 23:57from,
- 23:58where
- 23:58we
- 23:58belong,
- 23:59is
- 23:59very
- 23:59important.
- 24:00I
- 24:00mean,
- 24:01one
- 24:01of
- 24:01the
- 24:01things
- 24:01that
- 24:02Shepperton
- 24:02has,
- 24:03which
- 24:03I
- 24:03think
- 24:03is
- 24:04fantastic,
- 24:05and
- 24:06over
- 24:06the
- 24:06past
- 24:07couple
- 24:07of
- 24:07years,
- 24:08I've
- 24:08certainly
- 24:09responded
- 24:10to
- 24:10Dik
- 24:10Gregory
- 24:11with
- 24:11his.
- 24:12The
- 24:12Shepperton
- 24:13Village
- 24:13Fair
- 24:14and
- 24:14of
- 24:15course,
- 24:15Middlesex
- 24:16Heritage,
- 24:16of
- 24:17which
- 24:18the
- 24:19patron
- 24:19is
- 24:19Lord
- 24:20Randall
- 24:20of
- 24:20Uxbridge
- 24:22and
- 24:23I
- 24:23am
- 24:23president
- 24:24of
- 24:24it
- 24:24now.
- 24:25But
- 24:25Middlesex
- 24:26Heritage
- 24:27would
- 24:27always
- 24:28either
- 24:28be
- 24:29a
- 24:30silver
- 24:30sponsor
- 24:31or
- 24:31a
- 24:31bronze
- 24:32sponsor,
- 24:33because
- 24:33we
- 24:34knew
- 24:34that
- 24:35Shepperton
- 24:35Village
- 24:36Fair
- 24:36was
- 24:37part
- 24:37of
- 24:37the
- 24:38whole
- 24:39ethos
- 24:40of
- 24:41Middlesex
- 24:41Heritage,
- 24:42community.
- 24:43All
- 24:44of
- 24:44these
- 24:44places
- 24:45that
- 24:46belong
- 24:46together
- 24:47in
- 24:48one
- 24:48place,
- 24:48and
- 24:49that
- 24:49place
- 24:49is
- 24:50Middlesex
- 24:51equally.
- 24:51I
- 24:52was
- 24:52talking
- 24:52to
- 24:52somebody
- 24:53yesterday
- 24:54to
- 24:54see
- 24:54how
- 24:55I
- 24:55can
- 24:55help
- 24:56St
- 24:56Nicholas
- 24:56Church,
- 24:57this
- 24:58very
- 24:58beautiful
- 24:59church
- 24:59that
- 25:00even
- 25:00Nicholas
- 25:01Pevsner,
- 25:01the
- 25:02great
- 25:03man
- 25:04when
- 25:04it
- 25:04comes
- 25:04to
- 25:05architecture,
- 25:06writing
- 25:06his
- 25:06brilliant,
- 25:07beautiful
- 25:08books
- 25:09on
- 25:09the
- 25:09architecture
- 25:10of
- 25:10Britain,
- 25:11and
- 25:11it's
- 25:12in
- 25:12the
- 25:12Middlesex
- 25:13volume.
- 25:13St.
- 25:13Nicholas's
- 25:14Church
- 25:15is
- 25:16a
- 25:16very
- 25:16important
- 25:18building
- 25:19within
- 25:19Middlesex.
- 25:20And
- 25:20we
- 25:21still
- 25:21have
- 25:21the
- 25:21Archdiocese
- 25:22of
- 25:22Middlesex.
- 25:23You
- 25:23see,
- 25:24there's
- 25:24the
- 25:25Archdeaconry.
- 25:26I
- 25:26should
- 25:26say
- 25:27my
- 25:28ecclesiastical
- 25:29knowledge
- 25:29is
- 25:30not
- 25:30as
- 25:30good
- 25:30as
- 25:30my
- 25:31astrological
- 25:31or
- 25:32geographical
- 25:33knowledge,
- 25:33but
- 25:34we
- 25:34still
- 25:34have
- 25:35this,
- 25:35the
- 25:35Archdeaconry
- 25:36of
- 25:37Middlesex,
- 25:38which
- 25:38St
- 25:38Nicholas
- 25:39belongs
- 25:39to.
- 25:40But
- 25:40when
- 25:40we
- 25:41start
- 25:41getting
- 25:41ridiculous
- 25:42situations
- 25:43that
- 25:43they've
- 25:44got
- 25:44to
- 25:44pay
- 25:44a
- 25:44huge
- 25:45VAT
- 25:46bill,
- 25:47what
- 25:47they
- 25:47don't
- 25:48realise
- 25:48government
- 25:50and
- 25:50politicians
- 25:51that
- 25:51enact
- 25:52these
- 25:52things,
- 25:53is
- 25:53by
- 25:54wanting
- 25:55£20,000
- 25:57VAT
- 25:58from
- 25:58St
- 25:58Nicholas's
- 25:59Church,
- 26:00they're
- 26:00ripping
- 26:01the
- 26:01heart
- 26:02out
- 26:02of
- 26:02a
- 26:02community,
- 26:04because
- 26:04that
- 26:05money
- 26:05should
- 26:05be
- 26:06going
- 26:06back,
- 26:06not
- 26:07just
- 26:07into
- 26:08St.
- 26:08Nicholas's
- 26:09Church,
- 26:09but
- 26:09to
- 26:10other
- 26:10buildings
- 26:11or
- 26:11places
- 26:12that
- 26:13are
- 26:13important
- 26:13to
- 26:14that
- 26:14community.
- 26:15And
- 26:15so
- 26:16therefore,
- 26:16£20,000
- 26:17is
- 26:17outrageous
- 26:19because
- 26:20what
- 26:20it
- 26:20ultimately
- 26:21does,
- 26:22it
- 26:22takes
- 26:22it
- 26:22away
- 26:23from
- 26:23where
- 26:23it
- 26:24belongs.
- 26:24And
- 26:25that
- 26:25is
- 26:25the
- 26:25community
- 26:26and
- 26:26village
- 26:26of
- 26:27Shepperton
- 26:27and
- 26:28a
- 26:28beautiful
- 26:29building
- 26:29that
- 26:30knows
- 26:30more
- 26:30about
- 26:31Middlesex's
- 26:32history
- 26:32than
- 26:33I
- 26:33ever
- 26:34will.
- 26:35You've
- 26:36got
- 26:36glorious
- 26:37things
- 26:37happening
- 26:37in
- 26:37lower
- 26:38Sunbury.
- 26:38The
- 26:39beautiful
- 26:39walled
- 26:40garden,
- 26:40the
- 26:41tapestry.
- 26:42These
- 26:43are
- 26:43all
- 26:44so
- 26:45important
- 26:46to
- 26:46us,
- 26:48not
- 26:48just
- 26:48as
- 26:49a
- 26:49county
- 26:50community,
- 26:51but
- 26:51very
- 26:51much
- 26:52so
- 26:52as
- 26:52a
- 26:52village
- 26:53community,
- 26:54which
- 26:55we
- 26:55belong
- 26:56to.
- 26:56So
- 26:57at
- 26:57the
- 26:57end
- 26:57of
- 26:57the
- 26:57day,
- 26:57I
- 26:58guess
- 26:58it's
- 26:58about
- 26:58giving
- 26:59these
- 26:59places,
- 27:00these
- 27:00buildings,
- 27:01these
- 27:01county
- 27:01lines,
- 27:02the
- 27:02respect
- 27:02they
- 27:03deserve.
- 27:04Respect
- 27:04is,
- 27:05you
- 27:05know,
- 27:06you've
- 27:06hit
- 27:07it
- 27:07on
- 27:07the
- 27:07head.
- 27:08It's
- 27:08all
- 27:08about
- 27:09respecting
- 27:10our
- 27:11history,
- 27:12where
- 27:12we've
- 27:12come
- 27:13from
- 27:13and
- 27:13where
- 27:14we're
- 27:14going.
- 27:15And
- 27:15if
- 27:15we
- 27:15don't
- 27:16get
- 27:16that
- 27:16sorted
- 27:17out
- 27:17now,
- 27:17we
- 27:17will
- 27:18all
- 27:18become
- 27:18amoebas
- 27:19blobs.
- 27:20All
- 27:20the
- 27:21councils
- 27:21will
- 27:21be
- 27:22the
- 27:22same,
- 27:22all
- 27:22the
- 27:23high
- 27:23streets
- 27:23will
- 27:23be
- 27:24the
- 27:24same,
- 27:24all
- 27:24the
- 27:24village
- 27:25centers
- 27:25will
- 27:25be
- 27:26the
- 27:26same
- 27:27and
- 27:27all
- 27:27the
- 27:27politicians
- 27:28will
- 27:28be
- 27:29the
- 27:29same.
- 27:29And
- 27:30that's
- 27:30what
- 27:30we
- 27:31need
- 27:31to
- 27:31sort
- 27:32out
- 27:32now,
- 27:32before
- 27:33everything
- 27:33becomes
- 27:34the
- 27:35same.
- 27:35That
- 27:36was
- 27:36Russell
- 27:36Grant,
- 27:37author,
- 27:37broadcaster,
- 27:38Lord
- 27:39of
- 27:39the
- 27:39Manor
- 27:39of
- 27:39Ashford
- 27:40in
- 27:40Middlesex
- 27:40and
- 27:41the
- 27:41man
- 27:41behind
- 27:41the
- 27:42South
- 27:42Middlesex
- 27:42campaign
- 27:43if
- 27:44today's
- 27:44episode
- 27:44has
- 27:45made
- 27:45you
- 27:45think
- 27:45differently
- 27:46about
- 27:46where
- 27:46you
- 27:46live
- 27:46or
- 27:47where
- 27:47you're
- 27:47from,
- 27:48I'd
- 27:48say
- 27:48that's
- 27:49rather
- 27:49the
- 27:49point.
- 27:50The
- 27:50election
- 27:50for
- 27:51West
- 27:51Surrey
- 27:51Unitary
- 27:52Authority
- 27:52is
- 27:53on
- 27:53the
- 27:537th
- 27:53of
- 27:53May,
- 27:54and
- 27:54whatever
- 27:54name
- 27:55that
- 27:55council
- 27:55eventually
- 27:56carries,
- 27:56the
- 27:57argument
- 27:57Russell
- 27:58has
- 27:58been
- 27:58making
- 27:58for
- 27:58nearly
- 27:5940
- 27:59years
- 27:59remains
- 28:00the
- 28:00same.
- 28:00The
- 28:01county
- 28:01Council
- 28:02can
- 28:02be
- 28:02abolished,
- 28:03the
- 28:03county
- 28:04cannot.
- 28:05You
- 28:05can
- 28:05find
- 28:05the
- 28:06South
- 28:06Middlesex
- 28:06campaign
- 28:07on
- 28:07Facebook
- 28:07and
- 28:07Instagram.
- 28:08The
- 28:08links
- 28:08are
- 28:08in
- 28:08the
- 28:09show
- 28:09notes.
- 28:10If
- 28:10you've
- 28:10got
- 28:10a
- 28:10leaflet
- 28:10for
- 28:11your
- 28:11business
- 28:11with
- 28:11South
- 28:11Middlesex
- 28:12on
- 28:12it,
- 28:12Russell
- 28:13would
- 28:13genuinely
- 28:13love
- 28:14to
- 28:14hear
- 28:14from
- 28:14you.
- 28:15If
- 28:15you've
- 28:15enjoyed
- 28:16this
- 28:16episode
- 28:16and
- 28:16want
- 28:17to
- 28:17support
- 28:17the
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- 28:21helps
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- 28:22stories
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- 28:23this
- 28:23one
- 28:23coming
- 28:23and
- 28:24it's
- 28:24genuinely
- 28:25appreciated.
- 28:26Thanks
- 28:26again
- 28:26to
- 28:27our
- 28:27business
- 28:27club
- 28:27partners,
- 28:28the
- 28:28Ferry
- 28:28Coffee
- 28:28Shop,
- 28:29Meon
- 28:29Media
- 28:29and
- 28:30the
- 28:30Sound
- 28:30Boutique,
- 28:30and
- 28:31to
- 28:31Island
- 28:31Motors
- 28:32and
- 28:32LuvBiltong.
- 28:33I'm
- 28:34Gareth.
- 28:34This
- 28:34has
- 28:35been
- 28:35The
- 28:35Sheppertonian.
- 28:36Until
- 28:36next
- 28:36time.
- 28:37I'll
- 28:37see
- 28:37you
- 28:37around.