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Finding Your Voice: Breaking Free from People-Pleasing & Self-Doubt | Anna Beaumont · The Inner Beacon Podcast With Marisa

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Inner Beacon.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am your host, Marisa.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm a Canadian girl mama of two business owner, flight attendant, and a certified self-loving coach.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are in the right place if you are ready to lead your life from within.
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  SPEAKER_01: To reconnect with your intuition, trust yourself deeply, and reclaim your power.
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  SPEAKER_01: My goal and intention here is to inspire and empower you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for fun, I might even add some flight attendant content and travel tips.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so glad you're here.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's dive into today's episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello, beautiful souls, and welcome back to the Inner Beacon Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Marisa, and today we're diving into something that I believe touches so many of us, whether we recognize it or not, finding our voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not just talking about the physical voice we use to speak or sing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about that voice within us, the one that knows what we want, what we need, what we believe, and what we truly are.
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  SPEAKER_01: Somewhere along the way, somebody of us has learned to quiet that voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we were taught to be agreeable, to keep the peace or to avoid confrontation, or to worry about what others might think.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a big one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And over time, what we become so accustomed to holding ourselves back that we forget what it feels like to express ourselves freely.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what if finding our voices isn't about becoming someone new?
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  SPEAKER_01: What if it's about reconnecting with parts of ourselves that we've learned to silence?
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I'm joined with by Anna Baumont.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that correct?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm always paranoid I'm going to say someone's name wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's a voice teacher, singer, performer, and a voice and body awareness facilitator whose work through the natural voice helps explore authentic expression through the voice, body, breath, and emotional awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anna's journey has taken her from performing internationally, including touring with Mary Wilson on the Supremes.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: To guiding transformational retreats and helping women reconnect with their natural voices.
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  SPEAKER_01: And today we're going to explore what it really means to be heard, to be seen, and to give ourselves permission to fully express.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, Anna, welcome to the Inner Beacon Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, thank you for having me, Marissa.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's beautiful to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so happy we're finally getting to have this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I would love for you to start with your story.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've had a fascinating journey from singing on international stages to guiding women through these deeply personal experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: How did your journey and with the voice begin?
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  SPEAKER_01: And what led you to work to doing the work that you're doing today?
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, as you can imagine, I think all of us that are on some kind of a transformational path, a spiritual path, have had to hit head on into something that just doesn't work anymore.
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  SPEAKER_04: And my years and years of performing, which I started at at 16 years of age, and I then I went to music school and I just had this path of singing.
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  SPEAKER_04: I had so many things fall into my lap.
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  SPEAKER_04: It was like this is what I was meant to do because everything, just like singing at the Olympics, doing albums, winning recording contracts, just all this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you're like, oh, I'm supposed to be doing this, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so I and then I went out on the road, and just after a while, I started to lose lose the wonder of it.
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  SPEAKER_04: I started to also lose my connection to myself and felt that there had to be more.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so, and actually I started to lose my my my voice and my connection to my body.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's that's the big thing right there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that caused me to that was a you know, one of those dark night of the souls experiences where you had to like you were forced into a corner to sit and to and to really feel and to be with whatever is appearing.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that was where everything shifted for me.
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  SPEAKER_04: I just began to sit and to feel what was going on with me, and then what happened over quite a long period of time is learning how my voice was separated from my body and my energy.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that's what happens with all of the students that come to me if they have if they're having issues with their voice, it's because the emotions, the energies that are in motion inside of our body and the voice have separated.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can I and I I think what you're saying and what you've said too is very relatable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like we often push, like we they we don't confront those things, and I love that part of your journey because it's so relatable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I a big believer in the energetic body and your body showing up and telling you that something's wrong, and that's kind of like how you've it seems like you've connected the those two in your work.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I think this is across the board for women, and and the thing about the singing voice and the voice period is that it is the correct measurement of what is appearing in the body at any given moment.
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  SPEAKER_04: I like to call it it's like the barometer of our inner well-being.
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  SPEAKER_04: So the sound of our voice really is a reflection from inside of our energy field.
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  SPEAKER_04: It really does reflect and tell us what is going on, which makes it a really, really good witness.
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  SPEAKER_04: It makes it a really good way shower for how to proceed.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's it's it's not just for the work that I do, it's it's not just about bellowing it out and getting it out and then walking around in the world and just saying, This is my voice, like it or not.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, yeah, it's about finding the connection to each part of the body that if you can think about our bodies like a piano or an instrument, each level, which is the chakras, each level is is a note on the piano, is a note, is a scale.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_04: Right?
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  SPEAKER_04: You can go in and each part.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you sound like you know what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: I do.
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  SPEAKER_01: I actually I in my inner purity alchemy, I I I do that as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like when I'm helping women to connect with their bodies and with their intuition, we explore the different chakras, we explore what each has to say, kind of thing, and see if there's something stuck there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I get that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I can completely connect it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm interested though, where what was the like defining moment when you realized that the voice was about so much more than just singing?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's that's so great, Marissa.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I will get to that answer and I will just say that I knew there had to be something that was holding the voice.
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  SPEAKER_04: I knew that there had to be a larger, if you will, stacking doll that was holding all of the movement inside of us of the voice, like a building and an elevator of this energy that's moving up and down.
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  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to know the building, and I wanted to know what was holding the building.
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  SPEAKER_04: I wanted to access, and it's not even that I wanted to, it's that my path was about understanding the light of a woman.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that because I think that when we talk about finding our voices, so many people immediately would think that it has to do with confidence or public speaking.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's like it's it's our power.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's where we hold our power.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's somewhere we hold our power, but there's something much more deeper happening underneath, like we're saying, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like when you think about the body and that one part of the body, which is let's say we could say the solar plexus and likely the belly, like that part, which is this big well of potentiality and women's power.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is how we're continuing, or we're always this in this continued form of learning, but from such a young age to have certain ways about us and to fit in certain expectations and sometimes to put everyone else's comfort before our own from our experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: How does that conditioning affect our ability to express our authenticity, though?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, it create it's a safety, it's a safety mechanism to shut us off to our authenticity just in case mom or dad, you know, will abandon us for saying that thing.
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  SPEAKER_04: Or and so I understand that, and it creates these personalities in us all, like the people pleaser, you know, the good girl, which is really, really common.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's either the good girl or or it's the opposite that I see.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh, so the good girl really does create the opposite, which is the bad girl, because the bad girl has to hide, she has to hide, you know, yeah, it's closing a part of you, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so the bad girl.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's still parts of who we are, and we're as humans, we need to explore every aspect safely.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then the and then the singing voice, and I always say the singing voice because the singing voice is different than you know, we could just say the the voice itself.
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  SPEAKER_04: The singing voice has the demands of creating a fine balance within the nervous system and the body in order for it to create a sustainable note that doesn't cost me a dime.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, like so.
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  SPEAKER_04: Then when I when I know that I have that note, when I know I've created that note, it's a correct measurement, isn't it, of that moment that I have created the conditions within me.
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  SPEAKER_04: That is a connection and it's a it's it's a wonderful, immediate, satisfying.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I have created the conditions and I can repeat this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you notice any common patterns among women who struggle to use their voice?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, there's there is always a separation from their power, and therefore the voice itself has to have a lot to support it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So the voice is relying upon the energies of the body and the light and clarity of the mind.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's the dual the duality, it's both because it's a reflection from the heart of the wholeness of the person, then it's always a reflection of the yin and the yang, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like you can imagine that, and in voice teacher speak, you know, it would be the the treble and the bass or the head voice and the chess voice.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's what they say.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the vocal cords are there's two of them, so they they have to come together and create a relationship that is a balance of dark and light within the whole body, the head, and the it's it's it's really quite magical if you decide that this is a path.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've noticed that in the past there was times where I felt stuck in my business and and and what I wanted to create versus like what I was for today's like in my everyday and day life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I'd had I'd have to have conversations about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like I literally felt a discomfort in my throat, yeah, because I felt like I wasn't being heard.
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  SPEAKER_01: And but but that was also on me for not communicating properly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I I can I feel like that's my connection in my head when I'm hearing you say that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, and I think that it's been a lot for women to have their voice, a lot for women to have their voice, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: So God bless the good girl, God bless the bad girl, and all the other selves in between that are trying really hard to keep us safe from being outcast, from from not belonging, and from to actually hide our power because it's not been safe for us to have our power.
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  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's true, like generationally and decades and decades of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've been silenced for so long, and I feel like we're in a place now where women are starting to step more into their power, which I think is so beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: How do people pleasing fear of rejecting or fear of judgment show up in a way for someone that's that someone speaks or expresses how like how would you note that when you're you know working with a client or speaking with somebody and helping them out?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a good question, Marissa.
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  SPEAKER_04: And all of it appears on the sound of the voice, all of it, every single personality that is accessing the energy field in order for it to operate.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's using us.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a storefront protecting us, but it's also using the body's energy, and it will always create a problem with the singing voice that will show up in the lesson.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's it's sort of just all goes there if you know what you're looking and listening for.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think this is why this is such a cool conversation to have on the podcast because like I'm hearing you and I'm like, oh my God, like all these things are going through my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's so true because we may think one thing, and then when we actually verbally say it, even as a coach, when I was speaking to one, like somebody in a coaching call, that's it's like a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like listen to what you just said.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's very Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And you know, these are all things that we have on top of us.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like judgment is has just been the status quo of life with with us all in order to make somebody else wrong so that I can be right.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's something that has to be burned through.
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  SPEAKER_04: And because there's so much critical energy on top of the voice, keeping it down, it again makes it the perfect instrument to be able to undo critical criticism, judgment, all of these self, loathing, hate, all of this that is on top that has been, we have been conditioned to live from, because until now, you know, maybe I mean, this is a rare thing for people to be able to undo.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's called it's called an awakening for a reason, you know, it's an awakening.
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  SPEAKER_04: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can become so disconnected from our authentic voice that we don't even realize that we're suppressing it, and that's where like that mirror shows up, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And how would you say we begin to recognize the difference between our true voice and the voice that we've developed to keep ourselves safe and accepted?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, I think it just continues on from where we just left off, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the authentic voice.
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  SPEAKER_04: I was telling a student yesterday, we were having a conversation, and this the student said, you know, what should I say to this person next week, you know, having this issue?
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  SPEAKER_04: I said, but you you don't know who you are next week, and I don't know what authenticity is going to say next week if you can burn through the opportunity right now that is presenting you, which is that you feel all this fear, then that's the opportunity is to be with the fear so that you don't know who you'll be next week, and to be authentic is to not know what we're gonna say, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't know that's so true.
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  SPEAKER_01: I we're every day, we're always thinking about what's coming, what happened, but that's why I think this message is just so important too, is just how about just being in the presence of who that person is and just bringing that forth if you're so in tune with yourself, with your self-worth and your your intuition and your authentic self, then you should be able to be here.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's why, like exploration in all aspects, whether it be mental or physical, because they both connect, like we're saying, I think it's so important because how can we operate from that place if we don't?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and that's you know, the birthplace of so many other superior personalities that can come in and usurp what you just said, you know, come in and pretend because now we're in the soup of a lot of awareness about what you just said, yeah, right?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_04: And so people then come in and go, Well, this is what I'm supposed to say, this is how I'm supposed to act, and it creates a super ego that will likely never become undone, yeah, unless and until there is a certain amount of suffering that comes into the system.
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  SPEAKER_04: But with a with a with a I know what I'm doing mind and not a humble I don't know what's going on mind, the I know mind creates a really big problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because then you're not no you're no longer exploring it, you're just oh yeah, I already know.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, and that's that's confidence in the world, and that's not correct.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, confidence is like you know what I'm saying, it's false confidence, yeah.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: And there's always there's always room for growth.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you stop at your at I know, then you can't continue your growth.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it's really a uh a beautiful if we can stop and go, okay, well, I really feel like I'm in charge in some way today.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: Boy, now I'm gonna stop and go, wait a second, let me just connect to my energy, connect to my feet, let me connect to my body.
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  SPEAKER_04: That is what I know is true.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me sing a few notes, and that will tell me how I'm doing.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tell me where I'm stuck.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's so, so important to go within and like really pause, even if it's five minutes a day to just reconnect with yourself and ask yourself what your truth is.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's connect a little bit more into the breath and the nervous system.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, one of the things that really intrigued me about your work was the connection that you make between our voice, our body, our emotions, and then and the nervous system.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, can you help us understand how those things are connected for those listening?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: So if somebody's listening to this and and they're like, the voice, the body, and the nervous system, what does that all mean?
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  SPEAKER_04: And the emotions, how they all are one.
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  SPEAKER_04: A lot of people will come to me and they'll say, I have a block in my throat, and they don't realize that the voice is reflecting and is needing the support of all the other parts of the body in order for it to work.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like it's really a big wake-up call.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, as soon as if like if if a person is frozen in their nervous system and they don't feel and they're very impersonal in nature, like masculine energy is impersonal.
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  SPEAKER_04: So they'll come in and they'll be like, really, you know, and the uh sort of like the choir sort of this whole thing, but there's there's no breath in the body, there's no no flow and the flow.
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  SPEAKER_04: Flow is what, you know, if you imagine a river, the flowing of that river, inside of the river are all of these emotions that are sleeping.
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  SPEAKER_04: And as we begin to flow, it pulls out this sleeping life force that is our emotional nature.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_04: Then that wakes up the physical body and makes us more alive and into the present moment.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: But that right there can take years, Marissa.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_04: That's a big thing.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: There's healing's not linear, right?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's there's always work to be done.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_04: So there's there's the freeze, you know.
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  SPEAKER_04: Now we now we know about the fawn, which is the pleaser on the good girl, isn't it?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: That fawn, they're in fawn.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, boy.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_04: Isn't that interesting?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_04: That has come into psychology now.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of the world is starting to connect, which I love to see.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess what are some signs that someone might notice in themselves that there might need to have some work done there?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of thing.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_04: A disconnection from emotions, having trouble in relationships.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it's a connected.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like I have to connect to myself first before I can really be authentic with somebody else.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_04: How you know, I mean, that's the foundation.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's the foundation, and it's also not reasonable most of the time because of so much disconnection with people.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: So we do need to be taught by others to help us to learn to communicate as well.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's a big deal.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a part is a part of the human path that we need is that connection.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: Others can teach us how to connect to ourselves to ourselves as well.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, if you if you are in public and well, if you can't communicate with people and you're always tripping on your voice, yeah, and it's stutter, like I've had all of these things, by the way, you know, yeah, all of these things.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think that we just if if we are exploring the whole color palette of dark and light, you know, we're gonna run into all of these different difficulties that are holding suffering underneath them.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: Because it's not about fixing this, it's about seeing the signposts that help us to feel what has never been felt.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what's being held.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: What what role does breath play in helping us to feel more comfortable expressing ourselves?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: Well, breath is is the support that is the wind underneath the wind beneath my sails.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_04: The wind beneath my wings.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I literally the song came in my head when you said that.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: I know it's it's the wind that that is the support of the voice, and it helps it to blow out into the ethers, and from I I like to say that it's the horizontal exhale to the vertical inhale.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's our life force, it's everything that is stuffing inside of the voice.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: However, the voice itself is the layer above that in terms of it's using the breath, it's using and managing the breath.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's actually in the driver's seat, and the breath is the support inside of it.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm gonna just say that I have taught over these years lots and lots of yoga, yoga, yogis.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_04: And they take these massive breaths and think that that kind of breath can fit through the throat and throw in sync.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: Well, it just can't.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_04: So it's it's it's not the amount of breath, but the movement of it that counts.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: It's not the amount of breath that matters, it's it's the openness and the movement of it that matters.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: You know.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Makes sense.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: And how does uh creating a sense of safety within ourselves influence the way that we communicate?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, well, if we're talking about the singing voice, that's that's the root of the body, that's the root area, the ground, our legs, our feet, our pelvis.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: And the voice has to have that part of our body in order for the voice to be connecting to something that feels safe to say.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like in like even right now, Marissa.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_04: So, what I'm gonna do is demonstrate for you the sound of my voice right now as I'm speaking, is stimulating my root chakra and my legs and my whole body in order for it to increase the connectivity to myself, which then creates a sense of grounding and safety.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: And that's a loop.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_04: I was just doing that very easily, right?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: People can do that very easily.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I was just gonna ask you, actually, if you would be open to sharing a simple exercise that someone listening could try to become more aware of their natural voice or release some of that tension right now.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, totally.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like one of them is just what I did.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm I'm gonna say a few things about, and maybe the listeners can too.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like, like right now, as I'm speaking, I'm kind of lifted up a little bit, and the sound is reflecting a little bit more in my upper chest, you know, and now my voice is getting higher and it's more up in my head, and you can feel that in your own body, Marissa.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: So, this is how the light of you and I, and the energy of you and I are communicating.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, now I'm dropping my voice a little bit, and now I can feel that my voice is accessing my body's earth, and my stomach is relaxing more, and that creates a lower, deeper voice, and then we're gonna move now to the heart.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm gonna find a voice that sits and stimulates right into the chest and creates an authentic strength in me that is still grounded but also lifted.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_04: So people can play around with the voice of, and you know, when you're with people in relationships, because I'm with you right now, and I know that you're feeling me, and then feel that makes you feel, yeah.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: And so, what is your voice when you're speaking?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: Give us the play by play now, give me the play by play of what your voice sounds like and where it is in the body.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, see, like I've never even thought about the different tones in your voice and everything.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just know that like when I'm talking to you, for example, my daughter, and depending on the conversation, my tones shift.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: And even when I'm talking on my podcast, like I try to speak from the heart as much as I can, or when I'm recording a meditation, I come from like a different because you're setting the tone.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I love I love hearing about this in in in this way so much.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because you feel that I it's energy, it's sound is energy.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_04: Where you feel it is really important because we're really good as yeah, yeah, right here, yeah, yeah, and wherever it is, it's fine as people are listening, you know.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: They're like, Oh, well, I don't feel that there, you know.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_04: Well, where can you feel it?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: And all of our if you can't see this, we're pointing at our hearts, yeah.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: If you're listening to the audio, yeah.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know that you want me to do one more because why not?
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_04: So the other thing that I think can be really difficult for people at first, but it's really important.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_04: We we we know that toning is good.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, we know that toning is good, we can all tone, but uh the movement and the melody of the voice and just letting something come out, not unlike not knowing what we're saying any given moment, is really that teaches the authenticity to trust, teaches us to trust authenticity.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_04: So right now I'm just gonna demonstrate like I don't know what's gonna come out.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_04: And I think you get it just letting it come out.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: So, because a lot of time when people come to take voice lessons, they're like, Oh, we have, you know, you have a you have a a visual of a voice teacher, come on now, right?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: It's like all this kind of thing.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: And so it creates a lot of it creates a lot of uh stress and judgment, and the critic strongly comes out.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_04: So, in order for people to embrace their voice in a way that is then gonna access their flowing authenticity, that exercise is great.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I have a big believer.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of going off my notes away from my notes now, but I'm a bit I'm a bit big believer that when you're as a when you're a kid, you naturally tend to do things that like your authentic self, right?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's all authentic because it's they're just learning who they are and everything.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: And now I'm seeing my six-year-old is constantly singing, and she's been asking to go to singing lessons and things.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then she's always asking, Mommy, do you think I'm a good singer and all this stuff?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like it's an observation, but I think that's if I think if we be playful in the matter and think about parts of us when we were younger and what brought us joy.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I this thought just came to mind and I had to say that out loud.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why I love it.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_04: I love it, Marissa.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, it's a really big thing that I teach, which is what I call the playground.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so the playground is where like the play of trust, like this is where we learn how to trust and play begins, and it's quite an injured place for a lot of people.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so so doing this and helping people to play with their voice really is a healing of the root chakra and the voice and the emotions and the power, all of that is a doorway to it, yeah.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one of the biggest messages behind my work is reclaiming our power and giving ourselves permission to live authentically.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: But for someone who spent years making herself smaller, that can feel terrifying.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: How do we begin finding the courage to let ourselves to fully be seen and heard?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, baby steps.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_04: Baby steps.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_04: And as soon as the emotions begin, it's like taking a cork out of the throat.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_04: And something that has been stuck inside will come up, and sometimes it comes up in a way that can feel humiliating and embarrassing because it's premature, it's coming out, right?
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: And so that's okay, that's all fine.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: We're all gonna just continue.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: I have made, you know, oh my God, how many embarrassing things have I done as a singer, as a voice, you know, we just do it and it's fine.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: But if you want to find the that that trust of uh connecting to your intelligence, your emotional intelligence, and being able to lean on that more, then connecting to the body with your voice and to the void the other way and letting your body's intelligence speak through the voice is a is a training, is a is a pass, you know.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how can someone begin trusting her own voice when she spent so long seeking validation or approval from others?
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, it's touch that.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_04: It's a real veneer, it's a storefront, it's a huge cast over us.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it's terrifying because people don't know for the most part that there is anything else.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: Like, in order for that to be let go of, in order for that to be cracked and the emotions to rise up, yeah, there is a huge leap of faith with most people because they think that this is exactly who they are.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_04: There is an intense identification with the good girl or the bad girl, depending upon which side of the coin you're on.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: Have you witnessed the transformation where someone began finding her voice and it changed any other areas in their lives?
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_04: Well, it changes always everything.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_04: It does, because if the voice is truly flowing and balancing and aligning the way that I do, yeah, then it's going to echo and cause the need to have that in one's life across the board.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: Because things just end up falling away because they have to, in order for the authenticity and the power to be really aligned.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, makes perfect sense.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's painful, it's difficult.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_04: I have had to let go of so much in order for the queen.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_04: The queen is the archetype of the throat.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: Letting go sounds scary and it is hard, and every individual situation in the matter of letting go for everybody is going to be different.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: But when we shred and when we close those doors, like you said, so much good comes out of it.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: You open new doors.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, it's really the it it's if if this is for you and you are sitting on that place where you know something, you're doing something and it's not good for you, you know it in your body, and you know it's time.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_04: And and sometimes just letting some voice out will let the dormant power rise to the surface that is your life force that will help guide you through this transition.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: That leads me to what would you say to a woman who knows she has something important to say but is afraid of how people might respond.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I listened to one of your podcasts that just said let them.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_04: Right?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_04: The let them theory, yeah.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_04: Let them.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_04: Now that's easier said than done.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_04: And I would say that what how I would guide people is that the shame and humiliation that is the the in the shadows of our being that is being kept there by the good girl, that shame needs to be pulled out.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_04: That hurt, the shame is a storefront for the hurt behind the shame.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_04: So if you if you go out and you say something that is, you know, I just say something like I said before, don't go out and humiliate yourself.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_04: But if you whatever you feel, if it's sadness, if it's if it's shame, if it's whatever it is, it needs to be fully felt for freedom to truly be there.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that we necessarily reach a point of where the fear completely disappears.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because sometimes we just decide that we have to have a say in the matter, and more more than that, like more than having that fear of being judged.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, that's the screen.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's yeah, and like yeah, for for for me in my experience, stepping into my power, showing up the way I do online and stuff, all that was scary at first.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: You build that confidence over, yeah, right?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: So everything that's new is gonna be scary, but we have to step into that.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's scary.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_04: You're going through a door, you're in a different room, and you got a knock on the door, and it's gonna be scary.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, I scare that scare the hell out of myself all the time, you know.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_04: Because I've been a singer in the world and I've been on huge stages and have traveled and toured and done things that I'm like, oh my god, you know, and I just and I think that's probably what took me off doing a lot of that is just because I was feeling burned by the stage and I needed to just really catch up and figure out how to do this in a way that felt sustainable.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's such an important reminder that finding our voice doesn't mean that we have to be the loudest person in the room.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's simply having the courage to honor what we know is true for us and how how we can hold like our capacity, right?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, better.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and sometimes when there's a really quiet person in the room, they're holding the most power.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: I believe that, yeah.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: If they're in their power and if they're comfortable with how they're sitting, if they're comfortable with how they're letting others do it, then that is the powerful place to be.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes.
• 41:11
  unknown: Yeah.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what changes have you noticed in women when they begin embracing their natural voices?
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_04: I think that joy is the first thing that comes to my mind.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I'm teaching groups of women all the time and online.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_04: And oh, you know, what we all might start in a little bit of a flatness, you know, and then, you know, five, 10 minutes into it, it's the bubbling up of the connection of the women, but the voice itself and letting things flow and the emotions flow and the permission to let energy move, the joy just has no, it really is a joyous thing to do.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Anna, if you could leave every woman listening with one message about her voice, her worth, and her right to be fully expressed, what would you want her to know?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_04: I would want her to know that the sound of your voice is where a lot of your projection of your critic is going.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: It's stopping you from expressing and exploring your energy and your authenticity.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_04: So if just notice the judgment and the critical mind on top of the sound of your voice and what you have to say, and know that know that that is just a doorway into a deeper part of yourself.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's beautiful.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: And where can our listeners find you?
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Connect with your work and learn more about the natural voice.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_04: They can go to my website, annabaumont.com.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_04: They can also go to Beaumont Anna at uh in it for Instagram, and you just put my name in the search engine and you'll find me.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_04: And if you go to YouTube, you'll you'll see some you'll see some music videos of of me singing.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: Performing.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: All right, Anna, thank you so much for sharing your journey, your wisdom, and your beautiful perspective with us today.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think this conversation is such an important reminder that our voices matter, not because we need to be the loudest, the most confident, or the most articulate person in the room, but because we deserve to take up space in our own lives.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: We deserve to express our needs, our desires, our feelings, and our truth without constantly questioning whether we're allowed to.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: And for everyone listening, I hope today's conversation encourages you to pay attention to the places where you might be holding yourself back.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe there's something that you've been wanting to say, a boundary you've been afraid to set.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: This is your reminder.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, reclaiming your voice doesn't have to happen all at once.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it begins with one honest conversation.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: And like Anna said, it could take years.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hope not.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_04: But come and come and have a few lessons with me, and we'll see if we can speed that process up.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: Anna, keep shining your light, keep honoring who you are.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 44:16
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• 44:19
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• 44:25
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• 44:33
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• 44:41
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• 44:42
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