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How to ignore problems like the experts, Jubilee style! | Rantzerker 224 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, happy Halloween, y'all. So anyway, yeah, well, we we're
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  Speaker 2: But Karen, how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little under the weather, but not too bad.
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  Speaker 3: Who the fuck is texting me right now?
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  Speaker 2: Karen's Internet and she had she.
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  Speaker 5: Just had to text me to say start without me?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, I think you know, if if Allison
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  Speaker 1: just went into the back room of the YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: that she controls, she would see that we are already
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, say hello to Jojo, who was also with us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just sort of sleeping.
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  Speaker 2: He's holding in his poop.
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  Speaker 1: I know he has to go, but I can't take
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  Speaker 1: him right now because we have to do the show.
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  Speaker 1: So he'll be He'll be okay, he'll he's he's a
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  Speaker 1: tough cookie and he'll be able to hang in there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's probably why he's curled up like that.
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  Speaker 5: Is it coming out a bum?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to control. No, I'm sure he's fine, but
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  Speaker 2: he does have to go.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't taken him out because I've been busy running
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  Speaker 1: around doctor's appointments and running other errands, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: a chance to take him apartment.
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  Speaker 5: That's so fucking difficult.
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  Speaker 3: In an apartment. Yeah, you know, cats are easy that way,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the litter box and all that. But but yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's even with little borat here, and he's he's not
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  Speaker 3: like a super outside the dog. He's scared that the
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  Speaker 3: crows are going to eat him. But but yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: if he if he if, I just couldn't let him
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  Speaker 3: out the front door, right, And I just put him
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  Speaker 3: on the big long, extendable leash and I let him
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  Speaker 3: out the front door. Yeah, and I closed the door
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  Speaker 3: on the leash and just let it hang off the doorknob,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and because our yard isn't fully fenced,
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  Speaker 3: right and yeah, but it's oh in the winter, it's
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  Speaker 3: awful because if it gets really cold here, like sometimes
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  Speaker 3: minus forty and you have to let them out, and
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  Speaker 3: by the time he's done his business, it's like I
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  Speaker 3: have to go out and pick him up and carrying
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  Speaker 3: him inside because his legs aren't working anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well yeah, but he'll be okay, so
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  Speaker 1: I will take good care of him after the show
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  Speaker 1: is over. We are gonna be doing a patron show
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  Speaker 1: as well, I mean in theory, so he can come
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  Speaker 1: hang out.
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  Speaker 2: With us for a spooky show.
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  Speaker 1: Allison was suggesting that I put on a slasher movie
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  Speaker 1: or something. I'm not gonna be able to watch the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing because I have to pick Lindsay up at
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  Speaker 1: three thirty because this is my life now, So there
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  Speaker 1: you go.
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  Speaker 5: Well, but I won't be. I won't be.
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  Speaker 3: I have to be done by like, I guess one
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  Speaker 3: thirty or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But what time is it where you are right now?
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  Speaker 5: It's ten thirteen?
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, so yeah, two hour difference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's fine. I'll be. I gotta be done
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  Speaker 1: by by three my time completely, So.
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  Speaker 3: That's one yeah, yeah, one yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. But anyway, so let's get into the video.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to turn on the turn on the my
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  Speaker 1: automatic scene switcher, and.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jubilee. We're still going through the video. I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of like useful stuff in here.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched it a few times at least things that
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  Speaker 1: you can expand on as someone can expand on.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm kind of sticking with.
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  Speaker 1: It, and uh, maybe we can look at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the best arguments and respond to them. So where we
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  Speaker 1: left off, they were asking the question or they were
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  Speaker 1: making that they make us a claim and then people
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  Speaker 1: step forward if they agree or if and and stay
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  Speaker 1: where they are if they disagree, and then the people
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  Speaker 1: who agree step forward and they have a little conversation
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  Speaker 1: about why they agree, and then they bring out the
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  Speaker 1: disagreeers and then they have like a conversation on that.
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  Speaker 1: So the question we left off at, or where we
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  Speaker 1: were still arding at, was women's it's called women's sexual
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  Speaker 1: capital gives them an advantage over men. Now, right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat, I just want to say that this is
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  Speaker 1: called men's rights activists versus feminists. But this talking point
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  Speaker 1: or this statement isn't really a men's rights statement. It's
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  Speaker 1: not it doesn't have anything to do with policy or
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  Speaker 1: law or you know, like any of that. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like kind of a red pill manosphere thing that they're
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  Speaker 1: sort of bringing into this. So but I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the the does it sure women's sexual capital I think
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  Speaker 1: does give them an advantage over men, not just with men,
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  Speaker 1: but also with women. But I would add to that
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  Speaker 1: that it's okay that it does, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that that's an injustice or something like that we have
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  Speaker 1: to change or fix because it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really see why this has become a topic.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, we're gonna hear from the woman.
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  Speaker 3: In the.
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  Speaker 1: Is that maroon? Her dress is a second from the left. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we really hear from her.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's conditioned because it is so refreshing and
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  Speaker 7: welcome and amazing. When I meet a man who does
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  Speaker 7: not treat me that way. They do not treat me
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  Speaker 7: like a sexual object.
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  Speaker 5: They treat me like a person. They talk to me
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  Speaker 5: like a person.
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  Speaker 7: They give me what I paid for, I get my item,
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  Speaker 7: and I leave and there's no weird like did I
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  Speaker 7: owe him anything?
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  Speaker 8: Did he did?
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  Speaker 2: I respond to that.
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  Speaker 4: In my personal experience, men only talk to women they
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  Speaker 4: want to sleep with. Yeah, in my personal experience, women
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  Speaker 4: have to be attractive on top of their job. You
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  Speaker 4: can't just be a lawyer. You have to be an
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  Speaker 4: attractive lawyer. You can't just be a dentist. You have
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  Speaker 4: to be an attractive dentist, I think when men.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this guy's on the men's right side, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, my husband's dentist is a dumpy, middle aged Chinese woman.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The the the lawyers, the the idea. Oh, here's a
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  Speaker 3: lawyer who's not necessarily very attractive, but who has become
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  Speaker 3: extremely successful. Her name is Harriet Hageman, and she's the
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  Speaker 3: person who unseated Liz Cheney in Wyoming. Mm hmmm for
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  Speaker 3: her seat in Congress. Right, okay, you don't. You just
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  Speaker 3: have to be friendly and have some substance.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Men often don't talk to women that they aren't sexually
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  Speaker 3: interested in because they're scared of talking to women period. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: because they are always thinking that, you know, what if
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  Speaker 3: I say something wrong, What if I say something that
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  Speaker 3: gets taken the wrong way?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I have seen.
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  Speaker 5: I have seen.
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  Speaker 3: Women who are but ugly, right, act like they're being
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  Speaker 3: hit on when a guy's just being friendly, when he's
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  Speaker 3: just being personable.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same thing with like when I see a
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  Speaker 3: cute baby in the cart in front of me in
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  Speaker 3: the lineup at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 5: And I you know, and I like make faces at him, and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like you yeah, yeah, men don't do that
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  Speaker 3: because they're worried that they're gonna get called a pedo.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Like this this is I mean, there is so much
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  Speaker 3: complication to this, other than oh you have to Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to be attractive as a woman to
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  Speaker 3: be a lawyer. You just have to be competent. Right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but you know I'm not I'm not an
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  Speaker 3: eight point five.
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  Speaker 2: Here, right, No, for sure, I mean I mean popular.
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  Speaker 1: I think that men talk to women for all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of reasons. Like it's not just no because he's saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: men only talk to women when they want to sleep
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  Speaker 1: with them, which is essentially the supporting the previous women's case,
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  Speaker 1: which is, oh, you know, it's so really men men
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  Speaker 1: are what is it? They have to be socialized out
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  Speaker 1: of treating women like objects, which is like the presumption
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  Speaker 1: this starts.
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  Speaker 2: From otherwise, right.
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  Speaker 1: That That's how I know it's true because I've been
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  Speaker 1: treated well by men. Well, you've probably been treated well
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  Speaker 1: by men like ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
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  Speaker 1: but most of that you didn't even notice because they
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  Speaker 1: were just going about their business.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 3: And it's it's like, you know, I chat with I
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  Speaker 3: chat with cashiers all the time, right, I always sure.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like there's this one one cashier it's like
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  Speaker 3: Jamaican immigrant, and and he runs my items through and
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  Speaker 3: and he says, so, what are you think next week?
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  Speaker 3: Will America be saved? And I'm like, I hope so.
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  Speaker 3: And I hope so too. That woman is crazy, right,
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  Speaker 3: And we're up in Canada, right, and you know, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like I'm just but I joke with people
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  Speaker 5: all the time. They joke with me back, right.
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  Speaker 3: Men are very friendly to me, and I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to sleep with me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a fifty three year old woman.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, just kind of ridiculous thing to jump into.
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  Speaker 1: But this just shows you the level of discourse that's
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  Speaker 1: going on here. So let's play some more of this.
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  Speaker 4: About sexual capital and women. It's because they literally ignore
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  Speaker 4: every other woman in that area.
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  Speaker 1: Like this concept that like men get put in a
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  Speaker 1: friend zone, women get put in the zone.
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  Speaker 9: So do you think that you know some of what
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  Speaker 9: I heard is it is what it is, as men
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  Speaker 9: are attracted to beautiful women.
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  Speaker 10: So there's kind of a natural order argument.
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  Speaker 9: This is just the way we behave whether it's biologically
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  Speaker 9: or do you feel that it's conditioned.
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  Speaker 10: In this condition?
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  Speaker 11: And I respond to that, I think it's a little both, at.
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  Speaker 5: Least at least a little of both.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, men being attracted to women has only worked for
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  Speaker 1: like for as long as there have been men and women.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's how why I'm here is because my father
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  Speaker 1: was attracted to my mother. Yes, and my mother was
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  Speaker 1: attracted to my father.
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  Speaker 3: But the whole, the whole thing, like she's saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit of both, right, and what she's
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  Speaker 3: talking about is not you know, like is it nature
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  Speaker 3: or is it nurture.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit of both, because you know, like beauty standards in
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  Speaker 3: different cultures tend to have little nuanced differences, but there
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  Speaker 3: are a few things that are universals, at least in
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  Speaker 3: terms of in terms of female what what's considered universally
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  Speaker 3: attractive in women? And it's neoty, which is cuteness. You
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  Speaker 3: could you could basically say cuteness, so cute like a puppy,
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  Speaker 3: cute like a kitten, cute like you know, as opposed
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  Speaker 3: to a more masculinized form of attractiveness and and a
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  Speaker 3: certain waste to hip ratio. And they used to think
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  Speaker 3: that it was different in Africa, in certain cultures in Africa,
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  Speaker 3: until they actually got out a measuring tape and or
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  Speaker 3: a tape measure and measured around these women's full bottoms,
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  Speaker 3: right because they had narrower hips, but they had big butts, right,
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  Speaker 3: And they found that that waste to hip ratio was
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  Speaker 3: exactly the same. Right, So I mean, you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: have to have an hourglass figure super hourglass figure if
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  Speaker 3: you got the big booty.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's not an absolute anyway, like like some you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's there's a let's say, it's not like there is
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  Speaker 1: one specific set of measurements that men are like that.
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  Speaker 1: There is a there is a broad variety, but there
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  Speaker 1: are general truths about that. And then and that's like
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  Speaker 1: not it shouldn't be controversial. It's almost like what they're
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  Speaker 1: saying is that heterosexuality in men is the problem, because
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  Speaker 1: that's why it keeps coming back to, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: if these guys are just gay, then there wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: a conversation. Even though you know, gay men might harass
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  Speaker 1: other men like sexually, but you know, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think that happens that often. But if you're in
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  Speaker 1: the wrong, like if you go to the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Oyster from the Police Academy movies, you might
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  Speaker 1: end up having to do a tango with a guy.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, but.
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  Speaker 2: Again that's like I don't know, like.
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  Speaker 1: I it is a mix, but I think that nature
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  Speaker 1: is a big part of it that we shouldn't ignore.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, And signs of youth, much more so on
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  Speaker 3: the female attractiveness side, because women only have women have
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  Speaker 3: a reproductive window, right, and so if you weren't attracted
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  Speaker 3: to women until she was my age, right, you were
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  Speaker 3: never going to get a shot. So your genes and
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  Speaker 3: your preference for an older woman would die out right,
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  Speaker 3: it would be expunged from the gene pool. Signs of health, clear,
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  Speaker 3: clear complexion, thick, healthy hair, right, all of these things.
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  Speaker 5: Right when you're.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at at a woman and you're you're assessing her
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  Speaker 3: as a potential mate, well, potential mate, Well, what is mating.
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  Speaker 3: It's making babies, That's what mating is, right, And you're
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  Speaker 3: looking for reproduct of the potential even even if you
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  Speaker 3: consciously know that you don't want kids, The part of
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  Speaker 3: your brain that's making the assessment of her fitness as
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  Speaker 3: a partner, as a sexual partner is based on her
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  Speaker 3: reproductive potential. That's that's just how it is. And you
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  Speaker 3: know you can compensate for that with intellect and being
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  Speaker 3: interesting and being funny and being fit and and you know,
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  Speaker 3: like healthy even you know as you get older and
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  Speaker 3: things like that.
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  Speaker 5: But but you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, like there's it's it's always going to be different.
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  Speaker 3: You're always going to have women who are like George
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  Speaker 3: Clooney doesn't even need to die his gray. I would
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  Speaker 3: bang that guy eight ways from Sunday. There's no fucking lineup.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a white he's been a silver fox for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, kind of like Richard Gear. So you
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  Speaker 1: know what men, men, they kind of they rock that
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  Speaker 1: h differently. All women with white hair also can look
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  Speaker 1: good too.
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  Speaker 3: It's because they can impregnate a woman and provide their role,
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  Speaker 3: which is provisioning and support and you know, and protection
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  Speaker 3: well into their sixties and seventies, right, especially if they're wealthy,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, whereas women need to kind of maintain
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  Speaker 3: at least the illusion of youth in order to remain
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  Speaker 3: sexually attractive. And it's I'm sorry, but this is just
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  Speaker 3: the way it is. And it's all based on evolution, right,
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  Speaker 3: and even look at it, like, Okay, in the seventies
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  Speaker 3: when most people were working started working mostly indoors, right,
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  Speaker 3: having a tan made you attractive because it meant you
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: had time to spend recreational time, to spend out in
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  Speaker 3: the sun. You didn't have to be closeted in an
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  Speaker 3: office working, whereas like one hundred years before, if you
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  Speaker 3: had a tan, everybody thought you were unattractive because it
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: meant that you had to go out and work in
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  Speaker 3: the freakin' elements in the sunshine. So you were obviously
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  Speaker 3: one of those poor people, low status person.
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  Speaker 5: Right. So it's like.
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  Speaker 3: You you look at all of these calculations, These are
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  Speaker 3: all evolutionary calculations.
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  Speaker 5: These are all based on judgments that are part of
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  Speaker 5: our evolved wetwear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, uh so, anyway, I'm gonna play
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  Speaker 1: more of the video here. Hold on, Alison's asked me
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  Speaker 1: to put Jojo in the vertical. It's a pain in
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  Speaker 1: the ass, all right, So because it's like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: just me dropping the image in there. I have to
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  Speaker 1: like set up the scene and everything. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a big thing. Okay, let's her just tell you, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Play the video.
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  Speaker 11: I do think that that is a little bit of
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: the natural order of things. But like, for instance, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: think a big like my only really interaction with these
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: man spaces or the manisphere spaces are these like red
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: pill podcasts that I've gone on a million times, like
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: Fresh and Fish whatever, where they bring on women like
• 20:04
  Speaker 11: me that are making all this oh you're on only fans.
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: They bring in all these sex workers and then they
• 20:08
  Speaker 11: tell us we're low value, nobody will ever love us,
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: we're for the streets, and they do all of that,
• 20:13
  Speaker 11: and then my comments get flooded with that that's conditioned.
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: It's actually not it's not conditioned. It's it's it's a
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: it's an actual they're trying to help you, honey, right,
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: because if they.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: See she doesn't want anyone telling her how to live
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: her life, obviously and men especially.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But yes, they're trying to help you. Go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's like, uh, what was his name, Kevin.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Samuels, Yeah, yeah, And he'd bring these women on and
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: he'd be like, Okay, well, all right, the only fans
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: thing is only going to work for so long, right,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: And what are you doing with your money? Right, because
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you're making a lot of money, what are you doing
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: with it?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Are you investing it? Because you can.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Only It's like miss mugs and mus miss mugs and
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: drugs at the Red Line in in Victoria. You know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: when I used to go there, and you know, sometimes they'd.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Have strippers and.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: And you know, me and my husband sat and my
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: ex sat and talked with her for a while because
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: he was working in the kitchen there. She owned like
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: seven apartment buildings. Right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: She was just like, I only.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Have four more years of this and then me and
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: my mom, who was her manager, can retire, like and
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: she's thirty years old, so.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You know it's yeah. Well, and the other thing too
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: is that, like, by the way, I got a Rumble
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: rant for Noah Fan. He says, I'm still waiting for
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a feminist campaign the shames the women who keep going
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: after bad boys with tons of red flags. The other
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: thing too is that like it doesn't really matter what
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Fresh and Fit or do whatever podcasts or whatever say
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: about women who have only OnlyFans accounts because ultimately, like
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the there are men that will have like some men
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: maybe you know a lot of men will say, well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want to date a girl like that, like
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: they have a problem with body counts, like they have
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a problem with promiscuity. And then the believe it or not,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: women are very they're horny bitches like they're they're they're
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think they're hornier than men, like I honestly do
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like when you look at like how much lascivious you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: content they consume.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I think that it's I think it might be worse than.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Men's using porn, and women use porn too, But but anyway,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I digress. My My point is that men are allowed
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to have standards, and they're allowed to be disserting, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they're allowed to basically say, I don't want to date
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: somebody who has an only fans and a body count
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: over twenty.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I don't want that.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And and the the thing is is that these women,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: because she's gonna get into it. I think it's not
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: even that they feel like they're being shamed, it's that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they don't They don't want any judgment at all. They
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: want to be celebrated no matter what their decisions are,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and they don't want any negative consequences, including and especially
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: this kind of like judgment that they that they might
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: get from men and women by the way, and but
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that that's that's sort of like not the snivewa radar.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: She's just offended that men have opinions on her. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Men are not allowed to have standards.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They're not allowed to have opinions. They're not allowed to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: be like this is what I want from a woman
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: without getting shamed, because we have already put men into
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: this black category where anything that they express concerns with
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it should be dismissed on its face because they are
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: part of like the evil oppressor class, and so that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that that can't be changed, it can't be challenged anyway.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Let's let's hear the rest of her argument. So I'm
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: just gonna play this if it really suck, Like, Okay,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: so Blue Orange is trying to just distance himself from them.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's dumb. I don't think
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: there's a point to it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: They don't care if you you can like you know
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that it's like you know what you're gonna be doing
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You're going to be condemning them until you die. It's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be just like Trump where Trump has to keep saying,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't talking about the white nationalists.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: They should be condemned totally. It's the same thing, guys.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You gotta stop it, like you just gotta let look
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: when people do that, just let them cope and see
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it over there, and then just say, look, when you're
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: ready to engage with adult conversations about like Title nine
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and divorce and child custody and paternity fraud, et cetera,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: then you can come sit at the big boys table
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: over here where the adults are at. Otherwise you over
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: there whine about the podcast that are that are shaming sluts,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you know, but wow, revolutionary.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: No one's ever done that like and that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if you're watching Thomas, I that's I
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: don't I don't care that you're doing this like it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to me. It certainly doesn't mean anything
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to them. And I think you know that. I think
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you should know that, like you are the enemy full stop.
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: No, it's it's like they've they've basically splattered him with
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: a bunch of Gentian Violet, you know, riddled ship, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: he's thinking, oh, well, if I just put a little
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: shout on it, right and the stain will come out. No, no, it's.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: There and it will always be there.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look a look at how they
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: treat doctor Warren Ferrell. I mean that's all you need
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to know. Like, there's no one more accommodating to the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: feminist view than him. Right, yeah, He's like, but but
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: what do they call him, what do they say about him?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: How do they treat him in the media.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: He's a pedophile apart and you know.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, incess supporter, right yeah, like, uh, it's insane, it's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: insane stuff. And because the truth is is that they
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: know that none of these things are actually true. Yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but they know that it's effective when they use it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: In fact, people like Warren Ferrell, who are more diplomatic,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: are actually more of a target because like it's they're
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a bigger target because those people can actually like make
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: some progress and so they have to be stopped.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So you know, I know that when Thomas was on
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: my show, he was like, we need more Riz.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, you're you I don't know what
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: this means, Like we have to tell the truth. That's it, Like,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you got to tell the truth. That's all that we
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: have is the truth. That's the one thing we have
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that they don't have.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So we have to tell the truth.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And we have to stop like trying to figure out
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: how to tell it in a way that doesn't like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: piss them off, because they're already pissed off with everything.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, even look at it, like not
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: even a feminist woman, right, just some random commenter, right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and I you know, I was watching a video it
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: was like right after that month debate was years and
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: years ago?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Which one which debate?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: They had four feminist women come on to argue the
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: proposition that men are obsolete?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Were there any what? Were they all feminists?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: The whole all feminists?
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: One one was Camille Pallias.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So you know, kudos to them for bringing on the
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: feminist who only calls herself a feminist because it is
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: feminists off. But four feminist women and so then, uh,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the agenda with Steve Pakin, which is a TV Ontario program.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: They had on a panel of men, including Jordan Peterson
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: and someone from Cafe Right, to discuss the implications of
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the fact that the majority, the slight majority of the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: audience at started the debate believed that, you know, they
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: took the no position, men are not obsolete, but by
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the time the debate was finished, the majority believed that, yes,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: men are obsolete and what are the implications of this?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: And some women in the comments section says, I can't
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: believe you didn't have a single woman on that panel,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, so, I just freaking laid into that, bitch.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Right?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: They have four women debating on a national stage where
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the men are obsolete, and you're gonna complain that they
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: didn't invite a woman onto a panel of men discussing. Okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: so what do we do now, because apparently we're fucking obsolete?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Really, like men aren't even.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Allowed to have an opinion about themselves?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, they're not. That's where we are now, all right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So she's going on about the manosphere, and Blue Orange
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: is trying to say, hey, I'm with you on this, honey,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: let's team up and let's do the men's rights thing,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: which of course she has no interest in doing.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: But hey, go ahead, pander pander pandering works really well.
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: Thrash the garbage. They're from South Florida. Unfortunately, I mean
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: pro does, but only fans.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Girl says, I don't have a problem with him. That's
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: how I feel.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see like they're not an obstacle.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: They've been there, you know. I've been doing this before
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: they came along. I'll be doing this after they're gone.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like, you know whatever.
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good question. It's because the same men
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: their audience that hates us, they're also making me a
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: ship ton.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Of money exactly, Like you're pretty much a prop for
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: them to make exactly because they'll they'll have you on
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: the podcast and they'll be like the eye candy, but
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: they won't actually care about your opinions. They're just using
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you as a prop to put down. Yeah, until I
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: could feed into their audience.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: People don't respect sex workers because it's easy to take
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: your clothes off. That's why they don't respect them.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: It's also easy people.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, is she wrong though?
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: That's why I'm laughing.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I'm laughing because she's the only one of the four
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: on that side we have the balls to say it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you, Karen that's what I'm saying. Pearl is
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the only one up there with the balls to say it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: No one else will say it. It's like, so this
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: woman on the right, the only fans model whatever I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: mean modeled.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Let's not say that the only fans girl is saying
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that she has been on these podcasts like Whatever and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Fresh and Fit.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, but a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: lot of women go on those podcasts to promote their
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: only fans page.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Like it's how they grow their pages.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they know they're going into a lion's den
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and they go there to promote themselves because a big bag,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and they yeah, they come out with some like some followers,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and probably yes, there are men who are like, I.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Don't like what you do.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: But of course she doesn't differentiate between the men who
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: watch because they like to see.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Like they like to see the conversation.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Or these women get like told, you know, like that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: what you're doing is self destructive and you probably shouldn't
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: be doing that or whatever. And then there are some
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: gooners that watch and they're like, ooh, I'm gonna spank
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it to this tonight. But those are not different the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: same person. They are different people, but she only sees
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: men as one giant block.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So she's just gonna say they're they're hypocrites.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: They're like, you know, they're trashing me, but they're also
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you know, touching themselves to me or whatever. And I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: would be like, well, yeah, I wish that all men
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: would stop giving money to OnlyFans girls, because they don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like you, to be honest, they just want your money
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and then make him go broke, you know, Like that's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: what I would say. But oh, Alison is back. Now
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I have to move everything again. So why don't you
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: guys get caught up when I do that?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: H Alison, why don't you make him put freaking what's
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: his name in the vertical? Oh? Okay, well it it
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: works so we can see you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: So huh.
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: Well hopefully the sound does the sound good?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Brianficient, Yeah, it seems fine.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I just had to move everything back over and the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: audience probably missed some of that because before I put
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: your camera in, if you're talking, they can't hear you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So okay, that's why this is this is something that
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: should be set up before we start.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I know that things.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Happened out of your control, but I'm just letting you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: know that if we have these problems, the audience is
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: going to miss chunks of the show while I'm moving
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: things back to the way they were.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: So it's just the nature of the beast.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, maybe we could do going forward is just
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: have a scene for to accommodate as many different forms
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: of technical difficulty as possible, like you Karen dropping out,
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: me dropping out, Brian drops out, and we're all we're
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: all gone.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: But but you know, like I'm my thing is actually
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: working perfectly for a change.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's awesome.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: Well we got one thing going. Like Honestly, I think
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: part of the reason is that we stream so often
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: because we're trying to uh like my My theory is
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: that we are censored.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: You know that we got censored on the algorithm level
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: of algorithm. We also know that feminist organizations seem to
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: routinely uh canvas YouTube to force even more censorship on
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: content that we do and uh we and we also
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: know that we've found out through the Grapevine that they
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: have direct access to the back door of YouTube or
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: the back doors of YouTube. So my thought was, since
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: we're dealing with censorship and to go for let's do
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: as much as we can and maybe through volume will
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: start to rise our head above the waves of censorship,
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: shall we say, if that makes sense. But of course
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: the fact that we do this almost daily means that
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: the systems that we have there's a lot more pressure
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: on them, and we don't have like additional staff to
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: maintain well. I have Jonathan who helps quite a bit.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: He's why I'm on now, But you know, we don't
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: really go ahead.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Don't don't feel too bad about it, because you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: like when I went on the Young Turks at one time,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: m h Jenk was like half an hour late getting
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: to the studio, was supposed to be an hour. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: then when he got there, the feeds weren't working properly,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: and so basically I could I could only see him.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: I couldn't see me.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: He could only see me, he couldn't see him. And
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the end result was, you know, it was just his
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: brown buffalo face on there and my voice, and you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: like it, even like even a studio that has staff
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: have technical difficulties. I was like listening to CBC Radio
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the other morning, Edmonton AM, and they brought on a
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: guy to sports guy to discuss sports and all the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: different trades and things like.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: That, right, and.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was just like it was a completely
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: one sided conversation. It was like, oh, yeah, hm, that's interesting,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: and then extended silence.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Oh well that was last year, you.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Know, And then extended silence because somebody forgot to push
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: a button or the button wasn't pushing so hmmm.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well we do what we can. And yeah, thank
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: you for that, because you know, I've noticed that as well.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: In fact, I when we responded to Shira, I mean
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: we've had throughout the years, we've had so many complaints
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: like why did she descripted content? Why didn't she blah
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: blah blah, And I was like watching this million sub
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: woman and she's just in front of her camera. Half
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: of the freaking stream, you remember that, Brian. Half of
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: it was silence, one quarter was her.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Well, she's reading the chat and laughing at the chat. Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of like I think it might be
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: because her audience is mostly women. There's like a two
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: directional attention economy going on where women are in her
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: chat typing and they're hoping she sees their posts, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: she is benefiting from the fact that they're typing about
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: what little she's doing on the screen.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And since those are our.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Audiences, men, I think they expect something like I don't know, state.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think we deliver substantial.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: More than shera. I'm not I'm saying yeah, but just that.
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: Just really struck me. Like a million for that, like
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: a million for the most low effort. Like a lot
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: of our effort comes into the research that we do
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: off camera, right, like the the the stuff that we
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: read that And you know, I know Karen does a
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: ton of research. I do a ton of research. So
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: we're bringing stuff and trying to make this insightful, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: you know, the presentation can be difficult because again I
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: tried to aim for a continuous content, to create that
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: kind of community, and also to try to break through
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: the censorship barrier. But you know, it is what it is.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: I apologize for my entire setup crashing. I'm not actually
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: a tech person, so I do what I can. I'll
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: just put it that way. But we're now, I'm here, now,
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: I'm here now, So let's let's let's care.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, So we were talking about this
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: OnlyFans model. The woman on the right she is essentially
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: talking explaining that complaining about the whatever podcast and these
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: other places that she goes, and and how the yeah
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and fresh and fit and stuff, and how the you know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the the same people who will dog her for being
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: an OnlyFans model wall so go and subscribe to her
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: only fans and goon to her content. And I was
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: explaining that those are two different groups of men, but
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: she doesn't see men as like different people. She sees
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: them as a as a blob. And though she's criticizing
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the blob, and and what we were really just recently
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: commenting on was that just like Blue Orange went on
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and he basically said, I disavow all of these terrible
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: men that are doing the bad thing because I'm one
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of the good ones.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And then per just says, yeah, but.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Like the reason the reason the reason why people shame
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: sex workers is because it's easy to take your clothes off.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Right, So Pearl just basically puts it like she's honest,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: which none of the other guys want to do, right,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Ariel is a plant.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: He was just like, yeah, they're just using you like
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: an object.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not like them.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys, I'm one of the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: good ones.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's that I don't understand how that that
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: dude is the one on the far right. Yeah, is
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: a real way a men's rights.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't even believe men or people. He believes
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: they're plants. Women are people. Though women are real.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: Men that women are plants.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, he thinks women are real because he
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: uses the word women when he describes them, especially when
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: they're victims of the plants that are men. So I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: want to have him on, I swear to God, I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: want to have him on. I want to I want
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to see I want him to explain to me how
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: men are not humans and the and the entire identity
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of man is completely artificial. But women, those are women
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: when they're victims. When they're not victims, they're also plants.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But when they're victims, they're women. So it's a it's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a it's a you know, it's a very malleable definition.
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Respect things that are hard and sex work only fans,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: that's not hard.
• 41:30
  Speaker 14: Why is it that people still respect like Leonardo DiCaprio
• 41:33
  Speaker 14: sleeping with small it's really easy for him to do that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Nobody with him, for.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Him sleeping with young women. It's because he's.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Talento DiCaprio beyond fucking belief. It's still reasonably good looking, Okay,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: that's why. That's why, it's.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Because he's he's he's got the jackpot. Right, he's always
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: been good looking.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Right, he's insanely wealthy, he's insanely famous and high status. Right,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: he's talented. Okay, that's all you need to know.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: There's a difference between and he's kilanthropic, philanthropic, you know
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of you know, oh, he's a spokesperson.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: For climate change and blah blah blah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so he's he's got all of this social
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: and sexual capital that any man could want. Right, of course,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: he's going to be banging twenty three year olds. And
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I don't mean because there's twenty of them. I mean
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: you're twenty three years old.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Okay. I just want to point out something. If he
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: is being celebrated, it's because of his accomplishments. It's the
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: reason why he allegedly is banging twenty year olds. I've
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: I've heard that the possibility is he's using them as beards.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: But regardless, the reason why he's in that position isn't
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: because of his excellence. That's why he's lauded. Okay, And
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: people aren't actually lauding him for banging the twenty year
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: olds mostly.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: No, Actually, they joke about it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they joke about it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: They may they make jokes about how you know, like uh,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Leonard Leonardo DiCaprio's latest girlfriend, you know, just celebrated her
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: twenty fifth birthday, uh and got the you know, dear
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Jane letter in her birthday card. Right, you know, like
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: they're they're like they they they mock him for that
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: because it's like just fucking pick one and stick with.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Her, right.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's not like they're they're praising him for like
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: just wading through, you know, just slogging through one after
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: another after another after another, and then when they hit
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: like twenty four or twenty five, it's like, okay, see
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you later.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: No, they're praising him. But the thing is that his
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: excellence in what he did is why he's able to
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: do that, and that is praised.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Well, there are some people who I guess praise him,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: but most of the people that I know, like who who,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: They're just like it's kind of sleazy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah. And also some people apparently think he's actually, you know, gay,
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: and yeah, they're just a smoke screen.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I mean it's plausible.
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's entirely.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Plausible, Hollywood.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But what I was just gonna say though, like, honestly,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: he didn't take off his shirt to be famous.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: He worked hard as an actor.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is there's a difference between someone
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: who looks like Steve Bushemi and someone who is Steve
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Bmi when it comes to women. So that that Leonardo
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: DiCaprio attracts twenty year olds because he's fucking Leonardo DiCaprio.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: If he was some guy who looked like Leonardo DiCaprio,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he would be a lot less successful because he wouldn't
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: be Leonardo DiCaprio.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: So that it's really that simple.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And it's a stupid comparison because this is a random
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: OnlyFans woman online. I don't know her name, but if
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it was like, you know, Monica Balucci, I'd be like, yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: that's Monica Balucci. Or who's the really hot Latina chick
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: from Blade Runner twenty forty nine. I can't remember her name,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: but just like a beautiful woman that's famous. So it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it's a stupid comparison, and to begin with, because you're
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: taking off your shirt. But I think Pearl's gonna point
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that out, which is good because she's the only one
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: on here that's actually got the balls to tell the.
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: Truth when when extremely rich and wealthy successful men. Wait,
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: when and rich, successful, healthy and good looking men sleep
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: with a lot of women, even though it's easy for
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: them to do so, they're not looked down on the
• 45:54
  Speaker 14: same way that like, for example, a sex worker maybe
• 45:56
  Speaker 14: using her body. It's also important to note that like
• 45:58
  Speaker 14: this whole idea of like sex workers and OnlyFans and
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: girls like making a ton of money is extremely new.
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: Who owns like ninety nine percent of the actual porn
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: industry and the production studios. It's men.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't go there. I'm sorry, that's that. Uh,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: that's that's I.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't go there, my friend, that's you don't want to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole.
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: Men, historically and even today still are the ultimate benefactors
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: of women's sexuality, And.
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: Men only started getting upset about porn and all this
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: stuff when women started making their own money.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Not only fans.
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: Men did not complain about porn proliferation of only fans.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: What the meuse commission. Congress had a fucking commission on
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: whether the outlaw porn. Do none of you bitches, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: guess you remember that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: No, Karen, And this is what's frustrating me about this
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: entire conversation. We're having a conversation with people who are
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: will of ignorant about history. They know nothing, and they
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: shout down any attempt to correct them as misogyny. How
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: do you have any kind of reasonable conversation with people
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: who don't think outside of what they're told.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Porn used to be out The reason Section two thirty
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: exists is was so that platforms could could delete things
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: like porn, right, that they could remove users' posts if
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: they were porn. If it's you know, you're just having
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: a nice Facebook group with a knitting circle, right, you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and you're like doing crochet and stuff, right, and then
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: somebody like posts a bunch of porn right on your
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Facebook feed or whatever, right, Well, Section two thirty allows.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Platforms and the people.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Who own their own accounts right to delete posts off
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: of those platforms and those accounts, Like I'm allowed to
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: delete the comments that I don't like under my videos.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: I don't do that, but I'm allowed to, but they
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: So that because there were two decisions. There were two judgments, right,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: one was of a forum that didn't do any moderation
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: whatsoever of any of the content, and so users uploaded
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: stuff and somebody uploaded something defamatory about someone, and then
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: that platform got sued by the someone who was defamed.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And basically the court said, well, uh, the platform doesn't
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: have any responsibility for this as long as they don't
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: moderate anything. The only person who's responsible for that that
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: defamatory comment is the person who made it, right. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: then they had another decision where it was like, kind
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: of somebody platform wanted to delete things like porn and
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: obscenity and you know, hostile commentary and stuff like that
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: to keep their platform kind of friendly and you know,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: fit for purpose, for their purpose. And they said, no, no,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: you can be sued for removing content. That's legal, right,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: And they were like, okay, so how do we find
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: a way between these two decisions that if you moderate,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: you can be sued and if you don't moderate, you
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: can't be sued, right, And Section two thirty is what
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: they came up with. And they came up with that
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and this is a motion se mail Congress in order
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: to prevent things like porn, things like obscenity, things like
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: you know, people sexually harassing others online, all of those
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: kinds of things. Right, so mostly male Congress put in
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: section two thirty, which gives these platforms blanket liability against
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: any kind of lawsuit whatsoever other than their own speech,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: and allows them to delete accounts and ban people for life,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, just go ban happy willy nilly over
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: like completely mundane stuff.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: That they disagree with.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Right, they have that protection because men wanted to protect
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: society from porn.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into so yeah, so let's let we
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: got to hear the next part of this because now
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: we're going to get into what the or not.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: It's harder to do only fans or to be Leonardo.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: DiCaprio, So this should be this should be.
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: Educational podcast did not exist back then?
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: Was it difficult for Leonardo DiCaprio to become rich and successful?
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: Is that a difficult thing to do.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: In his case?
• 51:22
  Speaker 14: Maybe, but for a lot of men, not necessarily.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: So it's not hard for a lot of men. Did
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you guys know this?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Obviously you all are just lazy bastards because you're not
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio, rich, famous and able to access women. And
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it was actually harder for him than it is for you.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Do you know that? Guys? Did you know that? Not necessarily?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Right? Right, I've been doing things all wrong. It's my fault.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I should have dicaprioed harder.
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: You should.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it his first movie, What's Eating Gilbert Grape?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Right, so he played like a retarded, retarded kid.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: He played a retarded kid, and I'm like, okay, so,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: uh that's some talent, right, And that's a lot of
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: range in terms of, you know, just the kinds of
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: roles that he can do convincingly.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: He can do villains, and he can do heroes, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: he can do retarded kids, and he can you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: he's yeah, you know, he's a very versatile actor. And
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: he has not been type cast, right, which is another
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: thing that you know he's managed to evade through his
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: talent and maybe his smarts in making the decision to uh, you.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Know, like say what you want about Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: The reason he was he was initially uh they wanted
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: him cast as Kyle Reese.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that would have been uh.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Rough, Yeah, there's no replacing mechel Bean for that role.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: But go on, Yeah, but he said, he said, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: don't want to get typecast as the hero.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: I want to do a villain.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Roll mm hmmm.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Right, So even he was smart enough to do.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: That, he did give us mister freeze.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: But well, okay, but here's what I want to reiterate
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: what this guy's argument is. Okay, so Pearl said, was
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: it difficult for Leono DiCaprio to become rich and successful?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Is that a difficult thing to do?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And then this guy responded in his case, maybe, but
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: for a lot of men, not necessarily.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: What a bunch.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, you inherit money, Okay, but that doesn't mean you're successful.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you're accomplished.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you have high status. It doesn't mean
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: that you're going to have that kind of and all
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: of that doesn't mean you're gonna have that kind of
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: access unless you're Paris Hilton.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think I know what fallacy they're engaging in here.
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: They believe, because there are more men who are wealthy
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: like Leonardo DiCaprio, that it's easier for men to attain
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: wealth than women, which is total bullshit.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Well he didn't have he didn't.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: He didn't earn his wealth and his fame just by
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: taking off his clothes online on a camera.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: But the point is that they are saying that because
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: they see more wealthy men, wealth must be easier for
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: men to get.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and it's it's absolutely fucking stupid. It's
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: the dumbest argument, especially given what Pearl is. I hope
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: she's setting it up here to go for the freaking punchline.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's find out. Let's find out. Do you think it?
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Do you think?
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Do just answer yes or no?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Is that hard to do?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: That's a question, But what do you what do you think?
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: I think it's hard to do and that's why people
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: respect it. Do you think being a sex worker is
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: easy to do? So people don't respect it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: But lots of people do easy things. They start YouTube channels,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: speoling nonsense.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Also, don't make a lot of money the record, most
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: only fans girls do not make.
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: It, don't and they're not respected either.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Are most only fans girls don't make money? Yeah, they're
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: wasting their time.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: Most men don't make a lot of money either. What
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: the hell is this argument?
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: And well, here here's something I forgot to read this
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: rumble rant from Nova fan. This actually puts it succinctly
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: as well. For a dollar, and he says the difference
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: is homeless men can't get hundreds of dollars for taking
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: their shirts off, but homeless women can. Yeah, so there
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: you go. We lost Alison.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: She turned.
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: Here. I'm just my camera is just screwed up, so.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I okay, just randomly, Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: It's still the the camera is still sending information at
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: just video Ninja for whatever reason. Drop let me just
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: let me see what I can do. Is Karen's still there,
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: I'll pop out and pop back in.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: So alright, okay, I'm not going to freak out.
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: Okay, I'll just I'll just I'll just work with this.
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: I'll figure it out.
• 56:28
  Speaker 14: Are men who were born into wealth and naturally good
• 56:31
  Speaker 14: looking when they sleep with a lot of women? Are
• 56:33
  Speaker 14: they demonized for that and called slutsedg No, So it
• 56:39
  Speaker 14: doesn't matter whether or not it was difficult for them
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: to get to a high status or if they were
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: just born into it being a man, It doesn't procre.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: They're not they're not demonized, but it's generally difficult for
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: men to be selected by a lot of women, and
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: the dating app stats will back that up. So again,
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: so again, I know you're asking about demonization, but the
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: original question was why does Leonardo DiCaprio celebrated. It's because
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: it is hard. Being a sex worker is easy.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: You just.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, another thing too is that he says
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: he brings up a very specific subset of men that
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: are born into wealth and they inherit it from their family.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Women also can inherit money from their family and be born.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Into wealth as well. What does that mean? It doesn't
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: mean anything.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so what rich people exist? Get over it, Like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like, I'm not rich. I don't care
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: that other people are.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know why these people are so preoccupied with that.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: And another thing too is that women. If women are
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: drawn to the one percent of men who you know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: like cross.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: All the will men will climb that ladder.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Why yeah, why wouldn't they take advantage of that? Like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: are you gonna tell women to change their standards? Because
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. That's never gonna happen. You're
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: never gonna do it because you know, like this is
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: like the double blind that you're stuck in. You want
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: men to be ashamed for having for working hard to
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: acquire wealth and status so they can attract women. You
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: think they should be shamed in the same way that
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: a woman takes off her shirt for OnlyFans. But you
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: will not have any issue with women choosing those men. Yeah, like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: because you can't do anything about that. You're stuck, right,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. You can't tell women what
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: their preferences are. That's that's you know, that's against the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: law or something that's against the rules of feminism. Hold on, Elison,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Hold on, Elison. I gotta, I gotta put you back
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in because for some reason, you're not Your sound's not
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: coming out because you are. Just give me a second,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I gotta put you in in here. What the fuck?
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Oh I see this because I have these turned on.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Give me a second. I'm sorry. Guys, got to put
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the correct link in so that people can hear your
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: audio and see your camera. All right, So give me
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: a second. All right? Uh now it should show up
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: unless your camera crashed again, use it. Oh no, you're there,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you're there. Okay, you're good.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, what were you gonna say?
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: So what I was gonna say is I get the
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: feeling that the assumption here, or what they're trying to say,
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: or the perspective they're from, is that it's equivalent to
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: shame women for engaging in only fans, having multiple sexual
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: significant number, being promiscuous, having children out of wedlock. It's
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: equivalent to that, is equivalent to shaming men for not
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: wanting that. Does that make sense? For shaming women for
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: the behavior is no better than shaming men or for
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: the not wanting to have these women, which is interesting
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: you think about it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Well, no, it's it's they. It's they shame men. They
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: are they think that it they should be shaming men
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: for not wanting those women right, for not wanting them,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: you know, And you see this, you know, it's it's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: all over, particularly in the I think it's the Unitarian Church,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: but it's all over everywhere. Now you know where you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: got these single mothers with the issue of three men
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: trailing behind her with snot noses, you know, and and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: the the church leader, the deacon, the priest, the whatever,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: right is admonishing the men in the congregation for not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: marrying these bitches up and and it's like.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: It's a burden.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: It's it's like it's a real burden to take on
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: a woman who already had children, right and has baggage, right,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: And you know, not a lot of these women are
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: providing much in return for asking for that kind of investment.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: And then you look at the you know, the stats
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: on you know, risk of divorce and things like that,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: and you always have to say, like, correlation does an
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: equal causation, and and and sometimes sometimes you have a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: situation where the groups are self selecting. So the women
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: who are less likely to stay with a man for
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: a long time are going to be the ones who
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: sleep around a lot and stuff. But you look at
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: the stats on divorce and marriage stability and things like that,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: and the fewer sexual partners a woman has generally the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: longer her relationships last and the more stable they are.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And so I mean, you you have to as a man,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: you have to actually look at that as a potential
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: red flag, right, Like I mean, I guess, if maybe
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: you're into her showing her tits to every man on
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: the planet who can afford the five dollars to subscribe
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: to her only fans, maybe maybe that gets you off right,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: who knows, but.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: It's it's generally.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Not a safe bet if what you're looking for is,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a wife, kids, stable life, maybe celebrate a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: fiftieth wedding anniversary kind of deal. Right.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: Well, here's the other thing that occurred to me. We
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: say that men are feckless and don't care about their children,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: and we treat them in that way based on that
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: stereotype and family courts and often in a lot of media.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: And at the same time as these women are expecting
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: men to take responsibility for children that aren't even them
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: multiples and have to deal with like this, it's like
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: we basically said that the equivalent of saying something like, well,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: men can't even carry a feather, Now carry three hundred
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: pounds men, ye. And it's it is like, if you're
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: going to expect this from men, then I think men
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: should be recognized as being the kind of superior people
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: who are willing to carry another human being's baggage. And
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: we don't do that. We consider men to be inferior
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: to women while holding them to a far harder, higher standard.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: And it's the same thing that I was trying to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: say about the shaming. Somehow it's acceptable to shame. It's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: acceptable to shame men for their preferences, but not women
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: for their behavior. What's that sound? It's really loud?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, conditioner, I'm sorry.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe just mute while you're when you're not talking.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: It's I'm just I'm like a sound freak. So like
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: it unsettles me, but at least when it comes to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: like being able to talk while they're loud sounds being made.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: But anyway, so that's the point is trying to say,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: is that we expect so much from men, We hold
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: them to such a high standard, and we consider them
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: to be morally, socially in terms of being parent, in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: terms of being parents inferior. So how is it how
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: is it that we can both expect men to bear
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: burdens that we would not place on women, but at
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: the same time consider them to be inferior to women.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like that.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: We need to sort this shit out. So if these
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: deacons or whatever they are want to say, well, men,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: you need to take these burdens, then they should also
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: be saying while men should be leaders, the leaders in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: their families because they are morally better, they carry heavier
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: burdens and their expectations are higher.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: No, there's no two ways about this. If you want
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: men to rise to a higher standard than you're expecting
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: women to rise to because you're not expecting women to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: control their urges and not reproduce with every good looking
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: strange that crosses their plate. Like if you're not expecting
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: that of them, you're instead expecting men to carry that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: baggage for them, then you recognize that men are superior. Yep, no,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: two ways.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's play some more.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 14: Just so, you just said he's celebrated because it's hard,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 14: but you just admitted, also admitted earlier that that a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: guy who is successful and and born into wealth and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 14: born into a naturally good looking body is also celebrated
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 14: for sleeping a lot.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: That's not really.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: I would say even men still need to learn to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: be attractive to women, even if they're born into wealth
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: and naturally good life women.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Also, Dell and s.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: Are you what are you?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: Are we just listening to people who just say obvious
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: bullshit just to win?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 13: Like?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: What the point? Can we elevate the discourse? Like I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: was invited to this thing, I don't know what I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: would have done if I was on the panel, I'd
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: just be sitting here thinking, how do I open my
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 8: mouth and talk about anything worthwhile? The instant I do,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: I'll just get a bunch of sheep buying at me,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: like like like, how do you have? And these issues
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: need to be discussed in intelligent ways, not as this
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: kind of salacious, low brow content, because this is a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: very difficult problem we're facing. We are facing a mismatch
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: in the identity between men and women that's resulting in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: a complete cratering of our ability to reproduce and have families,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: which itself is the probably the most dire thing that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: we're facing, because guess what it's not. It's not global warming.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: It is not being able to keep our technology running
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: that will destroy the environment. Yea, right, that's that is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: the big cataclysm that we're facing. Reproduced and this is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: a result of this mismatching our identities. It needs people
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: who can think where other people's brains turned down and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: what is this nonsense? I mean, I like, I like again,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: I was invited to this. They were pretty I remember
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: all that, Karen. They seem to really want me on.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: I don't know what I would have been doing there yeah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: like what would I've been doing? Like, nothing that I
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: say is on a level that these people can understand.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, I maybe some of the people that sounds
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: really arrogant, doesn't it.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: No, it just sounds realistic. But but yeah, no, like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: talking to a lot of these people is insane and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: it's crazy.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: Making because they they it is kind of like.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Just talking points. It's just talking points. And this is
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: this is one of the reasons why I don't recommend
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: university for anyone. Unless you want to be an engineer,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: unless you want to be a doctor, unless you want
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: to be you know, something where you actually have to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: go to university to get trained in that particular field.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: Right, Do not go to university. Do not go to college.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Don't go because that's what produces people like like them.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: The more educated you are, the more wrong you're probably
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: about a lot of things.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: The more education equals more in doctrination, the.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: More formally educated you are, because like, and when you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: have people out there, you know, who are you know,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: maybe they went went to a two year you know,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: I got a two year diploma or something like that,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: associate's degree I think it's called, right, And and then
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: they came out the other side and they made something
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: really amazing.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: You know, even someone like TJ. Kirk right, the amazing atheist.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah sure.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: But now, yeah, like I do not agree with anything
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: that man says. And and there's I mean, like I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: just don't like he started off, like I subscribed to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: him back when he was like land basing feminism.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: But but he's gone a lot.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone completely hard left right, sure, And but
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: he dropped out of high school.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: To make it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: But he's on the internet.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: So he's on Reddit. He's like the redditor, yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: To make it, to make a YouTube.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: What does he do.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: He's still got a channel. He's just he's just gone.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: People like people still think atheism is fashionable, so he's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: still doing that. I guess.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I know he's doing mostly political anti Trump stuff.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but but yeah, no, it's like he he got
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: fourth the fourth stage four TDS and and he's just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: gone off the rails. And but you know, he's attracted
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: a new audience of people who are willing to like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: just give him enough income to you know, support himself.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: So well, good on him. But also I just I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: just had this picture in my mind, the sort of
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: vivid picture looking at this, I can imagine this panel
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: having this argument as like the back wall gets torn
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: off and the city behind them is burning, and they're
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: just still arguing, do we have a problem, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: a problem? Yeah, yeah, I don't think so, I think.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: And then we'd have these guys saying to everybody who
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: comes to them and says, I think there might be
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: a problem. Oh, you're just a misogynist. I'm gonna sell
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: you bullshit just to shut you down. Meanwhile, the back
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: wall is burning and you could see crater things cratering
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: in the city behind them. I think that you have
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: the problem. I think that men have the problem. It's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: not society that has the problem. Men have the problem,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: you know. And it's like it was, it.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Was the most amazing meme, right, election meme this this
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: election cycle, right, you know, the dog sitting at the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: table with the coffee MUDs.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah this is fine, Yeah, this is fine.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, and it's it shows a woman in the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: exact same sense situation and she's like, yeah, but.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Abortion, yeah exactly, or the yeah exactly.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: There was another one.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: It's of a with a wig like a woman's wig
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I played. I showed it on the stream on Tuesday,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and she's looking outside the window and there's like a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: mushroom cloud, you know, the the end of the world
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: is happening and everything's on fire.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: And she turns back.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, the good news is I can
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: still get abortions.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: So yeah, so you won't even have to pay for them.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: The environment, the toxins and the radiation will cause you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: to spontaneously abort.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll also die, but that's probably the ultimate point.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we should.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Play more of the videos as.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: That's what you call an extreme late term abortion is
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: when yeah, it's very late, when the radiation and toxins
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: get you and yeah, you were aborted twenty eight years
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: after you were born.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: Okay, we have this persistent problem in humanity and I'm
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: looking at this from a very wide like view. We
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: develop these technologies, These technologies completely disrupt our ability to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: form relationships and then our society's creator. We need to
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: solve this problem. That's the that's the like, I don't
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: know a million mile up view, but we need to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 8: solve this and it needs better conversations than this.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, let's keep going.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah it does.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: Okay, some of the top only fans creators aren't attractive
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: at all.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: Where you say me and sex work is easy, but
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: look at the I know you love statistics. How come
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: most only fans women don't earn a living because they don't.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: Because they don't care about money. They're like attention and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: that was the that was the big thing when I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: interviewed a bunch of off of interviewing a bunch of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: OnlyFans models, and they'll tell you that.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, how is that not true?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Like, it's not about the money, it's the attention economy. Besides,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: why would a woman need to get rich when she
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: can just like find a man and then he'll take
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: care of her, Like, I'm sorry, but there are still
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: plenty of men out there that will take a woman
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: who's done OnlyFans and maybe has multiple children, Like there's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: a simp born every minute and women know that, and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: why would so Like, yeah, it's not like they don't
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: see it as something like, oh, I have to make
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: this my job. They see it as, oh, I can
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: get a lot of attention, a lot of positive affirmations,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: and I could make some money. I'll do all of
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: that because like if you if you don't know what
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: it what desperation like in terms of like financial desperation,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: like where you're like living like hand in mouth paycheck
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to paycheck. If you don't know what that's like, and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: you've always had people taken care of you, why would
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: you have the same kind of like you know, alarm
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: around like you know, yeah, why would you have those
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: priority Why would it even like enter your conscious you
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: just be like, oh, I could do some you know,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and they and a lot of these women they have
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: another job anyway, So the only fans thing is just like,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: well it's nighttime, I got shit to do. I guess
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I'll go on the laptop and show off my my butthole.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: And I mean it's like it's a side gig, right.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: And it's like my sister the doctor.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Right, she's she makes just.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Three jobs now, three job titles. Now she's basically consulting
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: with you know, high up in the healthcare system and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, right, and semi retired with three jobs,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: but collecting a full pension, full military pension. And well,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: once she logs off, she goes and sits in the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: office and you know, watches something on TV or talks
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: to her husband and her kids and stuff, and makes
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: jewelry and she sells it on Edsy, you know, and
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: it makes enough money for her to be able to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: continue making jewelry. Basically, like, she doesn't make a profit.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: It's just something that she enjoys, right, and might as
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: well finance the hobby by selling.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: The stuff on Etsy. Right, And this is.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Like if she enjoyed showing her butthole to multiple men,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: maybe she'd be doing that.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think her husband would.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: You could just show your feet and probably make a
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: lot of money these days. Oh, like you don't even
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: have to exploit yourself that much. It's true. So sad,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, very sad. But let's listen to some
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: more because this gets a little bit good.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: Here a lot of them do they say, I just
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: enjoy taking off my clothes on camera.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: Well, let's hear from somebody who has experienced. Do you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: want to.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 11: Respond to that's absolutely not true. I mean, just to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 11: use my anecdilois friends, I didn't even have social media
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 11: before I start. Only thing I have an Instagram. I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 11: do not care about attention. I just wanted to make
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 11: a lot of money. Which is why people do only things.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 11: Why would they want to get a lot of a
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 11: lot of people hate you?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, right, But I mean, like, does anyone
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: really believe that she doesn't want any attention wearing that outfit?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, let's let's listen to more.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Let's listen to more.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 11: A lot of people think you're no one's going to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 11: marry you, blah blah blah. I don't believe those things.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 11: But I'm also able to advocate for I'm a lawyer,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 11: so I'm more gifted in being able to combat that rhetoric.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 11: These girls are not and a lot of these girls
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 11: that are going into this, I'm the exception. They don't
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 11: have other options. They're not super educated, they don't have
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 11: other avenues to try and make a living. And then
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: a lot of them when they do go in this,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 11: when you say it's easy, it's not easy to make
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 11: a ton of money on only fans. I had to
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: do a ton of marketing. I had no social media
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 11: following ahead of it. You could say, okay, well what
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 11: do you how do.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: You market your only fans?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Do you just put do you put your tits on
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: inst and then include a link.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: She's literally saying, Oh, these women who told Pearl that
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: they're just in it for the attention, okay, and they're
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: not in it for the money. She's telling them that
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: they're the reason why they don't make a lot of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: money is because they're stupid.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: They're not as Yeah, she's exceptional, She's exceptional.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: I'm exceptional.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: She's extra awesome.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: I'm a lawyer, and I know how to do the marketing,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: and I know how to do this and that and
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: the other thing, right, and I'm really super smart, and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: therefore I can make a ton of money. But they
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: can't because they're not all these things that I am.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: And it's like.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: That, or maybe they just don't want to write, like
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: Have always harangued me, Oh, you.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Could like make so much money if you just put
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: out content and blah blah blah. And I was like,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: it was never about the money. It was always about
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: the content, Okay.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: And I'm pretty sure that's not true with the only fans,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: I mean really, Okay. First of all, so what we're
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: doing is we're comparing only fans content creators to Leonardo DiCaprio. Okay,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: Leonardo DiCaprio is an artist who's creating statements on human existence.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: I don't know how your bleached asshole, what kind of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: statement you're making on human existence with that right, So
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: there's even more effort on the level of I guess,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: personal understanding when it comes to Leonardo DiCaprio. Now you
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 8: can say he's not a very great actor.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't necessarily agree. I think he's and he has
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 8: definitely done a wide range of felt you know, so
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 8: all right, on the level of just artistic merit, there
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: is no artistic merit to an only fans account. I'm sorry,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: it's not what it's about. You might you might have
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: things well done because you have I don't know, somebody
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: who who produces the content, does the photography, chooses the shots,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: that kind of thing. They're bringing their artistic skills to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: your content, but it itself does not have artistic merit.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry it doesn't. I guess there's a gray area
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: with like artistic nudes, but that's not what it's not
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: only fans, you're not if there's a choice between doing
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: something artistic and something that will bring you money, because
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: gooners will look at it. What are you gonna do.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: You're gonna do the money, all right. So on the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: level of artistic merit, Leonardo DiCaprio has artistic merit only
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: fans very little, all right. And the fact that some
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 8: only fans creators don't make a lot of money. Therefore
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 8: the ones that do it's more difficult. Okay, Well, let's
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: look at the proportion. How many people engage in acting
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: as a hobby, right, just because they want attention in
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: their local theater, right they want some kudos from their
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: you know, neighborhood Christmas play. And how many actually make
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: the effort to try to become a professional actor. How
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: many wash out from that? How many men are who
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: tried to be actors who failed completely compared to the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: Leonardo DiCaprio's of the world, Well a lot.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: Didn't we didn't.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: We have like the the Hollywood actors and writers strikes
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: recently because you know, and one of the arguments was
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: that these Hollywood writers and these Hollywood actors in many
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: cases are not making enough, even if they're actually somewhat successful, recognizable, right,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: they're not making enough to survive on.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: And like, I'm sorry, but that that is the case.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, like it's you you.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: Have people who are full time actors there. It's like
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: starving artists.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Right, starving artist is a is a phrase for a reason.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: Right, It's a term for a reason.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: And like how many garage bands never become Nirvana m
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: xactly or.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: Stones or the Beatles.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 8: She's also including all the people who just do music
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: as a hobby, you know, and just want to have
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 8: you know, just they just want to take part with
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: their neighbors or the community. And that's it. She's all
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: including all of that, and it's ridiculous. And the other
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: thing is, I think the ultimate underlying argument that's here
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: is these women are using the value we put into
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: the female body in order to make money. They're using
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: the value of women, yeah, to make money. Leo DiCaprio
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: maybe a good looking guy, but he doesn't have any
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: innate value to the male body to draw on to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: get his success. And I think that's ultimately what we're
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: talking about. We're talking about the innate value that women
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 8: have in their physicality or whatever, and that is recognized,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: not just even physical, just the social value, the idea
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: that women's approval is of a significant benefit to men.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: We're looking at that, and we're saying that these women
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: are using that for selfish reasons, and that is a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 8: perfectly legitimate critique. And here's why this ability, or this
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 8: this thing that's invested in women in society. It's invested
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: in them because they are the producers of the next generation.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 8: Men invested in them because they are the producer's next generation.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: They ensure the survival of society into the next generation.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: So this value is actually a social contract, and women
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 8: are breaking it by using it for selfish reasons instead
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: of using what's imbued in them to create a society.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 8: And the irony is that they're not just using it
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: for selfish reasons when it comes to mens lives societies,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: the perpetuation of the society. They aren't supporting using what
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 8: is endued in them to support a society that grants
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 8: them their rights in the first place. What we've discovered
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: from this gigantic experiment is that apparently women can't have
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: this autonomy because they use it for selfish reasons, and
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: they won't even have a sense of duty to the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: society that's given them the bloody autonomy that they enjoy.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: They don't even have a sense of duty to that society.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 8: And in fact, it looks like, and this is really
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 8: not necessarily a conclusion I want to come to. It
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 8: looks like patriarchy is essential for the perpetuation of the society. Right,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: this is what we're seeing now. Women are given autonomy,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: they use the value endued in them, not too out
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: of loyalty for the society that gives them autonomy. They
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: just use it for these selfish reasons. Too many do.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: I'm sure there's many women who are still invested in
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 8: using this this gift, whether or not it's granted by
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: society or biology, or a combination of both, to actually
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: protect the societies that protect them. But then there are
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: these women who don't. And and this social contract. People
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 8: do have a right to judge women based on how
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: they are employing it because our survival is based on it.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: So funny we want to say that women, women hold
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: up half the sky, but at the same time as
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: we do not want to give them responsibility when the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 8: sky falls.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, like you look at you look
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: at One of the things Jonathan had said was, you know,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: like you don't when you go and look back through history. Right,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: there's one universal thing that you see when a society,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: a society proceeds to or transitions into a civilization. And
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: that's temples, right because the idea of common God. We
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: are all God's children, we are all a brotherhood of
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: men under God, blah blah blah blah blah. Right. That
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: unites the people toward a common purpose and a common
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: set of goals and helps the society become organized enough
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: to become a civilization. Right. But what he didn't say,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: but perhaps should have or could have, is you there's
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: two things that you see.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: Two universals that you see that you never see you.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: You don't see them in societies that remain you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: you know, sort of chaotic and whatever.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: Right you need religion, you need patriarchy.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: Right, There's never been a patriarchy that has ever created
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: a civilization. It's why the bonobos are dying out right,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: even like the bonobos are protected as an endangered species
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: and they can't maintain themselves. They can't maintain their populations
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: right because they're ruled by the females. Whereas at least
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: the patriarchal common chimpanzees right, have been increasing in number
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: and there have way more robust numbers in a wider range,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: and I can guarantee you if they learn how to swim,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: or the Congo River dries up and they get south
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: of that and get anywhere near those banobos, those bonobos
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: are going to be gone, like just gone.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Well, let's fucking go patriarchy, all right.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: Let me, let me let's cloutqu out qualify that, because
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: I've been thinking about this. If patriot simply what patriarch
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: patriarchy seems to do, and it's a's a small p patriarchy,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 8: or at least some kind of fundamental values, is it
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: gives women a sense of duty and purpose in the
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: society that they're a part of. Yes, right, and that's it.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 8: Like it's if we had that, and we didn't have
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: the necessity or the like putting men in positions of power,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 8: which I think is also a detriment to men because
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 8: in so doing they lose whatever compassion they could possibly commend.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: If but that that's another argument. But if women today,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 8: if tomorrow women in our society said, you know what,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: you know, what's really attractive in a man the fact
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: he participates in the system in which I get rights
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: in autonomy. Wow, that really makes men hot, I'm going
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: to go out and get myself a husband and have
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 8: children with him. If that was the case, our society
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: would be one hundred percent viable. But it is not
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: the case. For whatever reason, we women do not consider
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 8: men's participation in a society that grants them autonomy and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: rights to make those men more attractive the men who
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: participate in a system in which women wear burkas and
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 8: have to pray five times a day. Like, literally, this
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: system doesn't make men more attractive to women, and it
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 8: has to if it wants to perpetuate itself. Literally, like
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: that is the evolutionary standard by which that is the
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 8: evolutionary standard by which a civilization is judged. Does that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 8: civilization make its male members attractive to the female members?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: If it doesn't, it dies out. For some reason, patriarchy
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: manages to do it, but feminist societies don't, and that
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: means they are doomed by definition. There's the and the
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 8: thing is that people is, oh, you're such a misogynist.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: How does a society survive if it doesn't breed?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, and they've got they've got so many,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: like they've got all these women, like all panicking, all
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: hysterical about the abortion issue. And it's like, you know,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: not to get controversial here, but seventy five percent of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: American women will never get an abortion.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: Like that's just a.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Fact that sounds really controversial, tern and unheard of.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: Of. All abortions are attributable to eight percent of all
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: American women. So eight percent of the women in America
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: have are responsible for fifty percent of the abortions. Right,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: So you you have a situation where like this doesn't
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: even need to be on most on seventy five percent
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: of women's radar. The only issue that they have is
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: that it could be And then they trot out Therman,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: Amber Thurman. Right, Okay, here's what happened with Amber Thurman.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: She h, it was all about George's abortion. Ben. You know,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: they have a six week ban, and she was more
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: than six weeks along. She couldn't get an abortion, so
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: she drove to North Carolina to an abortion clinic. She
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: missed her appointment, and so they gave her abortion pills
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: and then but they and then they she drove home
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: and she got really sick, and then they delayed care.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: She went to the hospital.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: They delayed care for twenty hours and then she before
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: they finally gave her the d NC that she needed,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: and and then by then it was too late and
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: her organs failed and she died. Okay, Now, Georgia does
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: not criminalize women who seek or obtain abortions. They only
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: criminalized providers in Georgia. Okay, abortion drum uggs are gone
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: from your system twelve hours after taking the second one,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: the second pill. Okay, so at that point it looks
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: like nothing other than that, it just looks like a miscarriage. Right,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: there's no way to tell the difference. Right, So she
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: didn't even have to tell the doctors that she'd had
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: an abortion. She could have just told them she had
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: a miscarriage, if she'd been properly informed. Right, But she
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: could have told them that she'd had an abortion, she
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have been in any trouble. Right, she took those pills.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: She missed her appointment. They didn't do an ultrasound. No, no, no,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: just wait, just wait.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: No, I think she dropped out. We dropped out? Did
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 8: we drop out? Brian?
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, she she didn't. She missed her appointment. They didn't
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: do an ultrasound. The ultrasound is important because while abortion
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: pills are generally considered safe until ten or eleven weeks,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: right after the placenta has implanted into the endometrium. You know,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: it gets all entangled, the blood, vessels of vasculature gets
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: all entangled on both sides, and it's no longer safe
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: to use abortion pills. You have to go with the DNC.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: And what happened was they didn't do the ultrasound. The
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: placenta can be implanted as early as eight weeks, so
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: you should really be doing an ultrasound to determine the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: level of placental development before you prescribe abortion pills. They
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: didn't do that, right, they sent her home. She was
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: all scared by all these fucking feminists, saying, oh, you're
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: gonna get arrested because they'll find out that you had
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: an abortion, right because there's all this propaganda out there
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: about how oh you know, and they're going to monitor
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: women's health records and stuff that use to make sure
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: that they don't have abortions or they'll be jailed if
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: they do, and all.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: Of this crap.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she started having she took the second pill. Well,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: the first pill kills the baby or the fetus, and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: the placenta, because the placenta is part of the fetus.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: The second one induces contractions to expel the dead tissue. Right, Well,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: it wasn't all expelled. Some of the placenta got left
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: behind because it was so entangled among the vasculature of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: the uterine lining, right, So a big chunk of placenta
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: got left behind, and then that got infected because it's
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: necrotized tissue. And then, Okay, so she's bleeding heavily, and
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: she's having all these problems, and she starts to run
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: a fever, and she starts to get the sweats and
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: the chills, and starts to vomit and everything.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: By the time she went into the.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: Hospital, she was septic, seriously, too severely septic. Okay, And
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: I still don't think she told the doctors right away
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: what the problem was because her own mother didn't know
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: who was probably sitting at her bedside. Her own mother
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: didn't know that she'd had an abortion, so she didn't
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: tell her own mother. She probably didn't tell the doctors right.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: But by the.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: Time you're seriously to severely septic, the first thing you do,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: right is you do the broad spectrum antibiotics, right and
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: try and bring down the infection, stabilize the patient before
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: you go into surgery. Because by the time she got
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: to the emergency room, she already had a thirty percent
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: chance of dying. She was already at a fifty percent
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: chance of dying after five years. There's a fifty percent
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: survival rate for sepsis after five years, right, because it
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: damages your organs so badly. Right, So they were probably
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: trying to get the infection as under control as possible,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: and maybe she didn't even tell them what the where
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: the problem was, where the infection had originated. So I'm
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: sitting there thinking, Okay, what was the first thing that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: made this girl that led to this sequence of events?
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Prescribing abortion pills with no ultrasound, with no reliable dates
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: to date the pregnancy, just just hand them out like candy,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: and the scare tactics that are being used. Right that, Oh,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: if you tell the doctors right that you got an abortion,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna have you arrested.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: And if the doctors delayed care, which I don't think
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: that they delayed care improperly, rite care, the only care
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: being the DNC, because they were they misunderstood the law. Right,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: hospitals have like an army of fucking lawyers that interpret
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: those laws, and they would have no heartbeat, DNC, no heartbeat,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: no problem. So it's like, I'm just looking at it
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, like, those abortionists were the ones who
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: led to that death right, the abortionists and the abortion
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: activists who scared the shit out of that girl.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: So she delayed going in.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: She was so sick, she was probably even maybe even
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: delirious by that point before she even went into the er,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: because she was scared she was going to get arrested
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: because she was lied to by the propagandists. Right, And
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: they're pinning this all on these doctors who may not
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: have even known what the problem was.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: But even if they did.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: Know, they gave appropriate care absent knowing what the problem was, right,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: even if they didn't know what the problem was. Antibiotics
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: stabilize the patient, bring down the infection. Then you then
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: you cut her open, then then you do the procedure, right,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: otherwise she could just die on the operating table anyway. Right,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, that whole fucking thing is all
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: about the rhetoric. It's all about the rhetoric around abortion.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Right, And.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: I keep coming back to that fucking woman in Canada, right,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: who is like she's a Maid's doctor.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, the one that was smiling about the maid Service
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Medical Assistance and dying.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: There was like a whole thing about her.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, she's just like, you know,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: just creepy woman, just c ocagionally.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Originally I was doing surgical abortions, okay, but then mifa pristone,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: which is the drug responsible for Amber Thurman's death by
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: the way, mif a pristone was approved in Canada, and
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, I'm going to have to
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: get a new racket, right, But lucky for me, medical
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: assistance and dying was approved in Canada that same year,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: So I just transitioned from killing fetuses to killing adults.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: State state assisted though, So that means it's good, all right,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the next part of this less Allison
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: wants to say something, all right, So I jumped to
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: the next statement because we only got like fifteen minutes
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: because we have to do an after show and I
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: have to pick Lindsay up and Karen can't stay for
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: a whole lot longer.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I actually, I actually should go at the exact same.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if I can stay for an
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: after show.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's play some more of this video.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Now, this is the next statement, feminism is trying to
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: remove masculinity from society. Oh yeah, let me switch it back.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I like the meme, but.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: I will I will use it as a reminder.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: All right, But anyway, mask feminism is trying to remove
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: masculinity from society is the next question. See if you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: guys can figure out who's going to step forward for
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: this society.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: If you agree, please step forward.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: He start us off.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 15: You know, I think the best thing to say is
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 15: probably that they're trying to be masculine. So they're trying
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 15: to remove what masculinity is today and replace it by
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 15: a version of femininity that is masculine.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: Who wait, wait wait, feminists? Okay, no, does he answer
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 8: that question? I'm just curious. Let's let's hear it.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: He said feminists when he was asked, Okay, he asked him,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: who's doing it?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: He said, feminists.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: No, that was the question, though, it's inherent in the question.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: Who the they is?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Okay, yeah, that is it's very dishonest to say
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 8: that dumb question.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: It's basically what he's saying is that it's not about
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: he's saying that feminists aren't necessarily trying to remove masculinity.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: They're trying to replace it with like women, women doing it.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Women doing it. Yeah, but they're not really doing it.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: It's more like a cause playing it, you know.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 8: Well not even like. The thing is that feminism has
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: the most stereotypical and ridiculous definition of masculinity.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a man.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 8: Remember that what they'recouraging women to do is engage in
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: negative behaviors that they attribute to men because they're misinterests.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 8: So they basically say, well, men are abusive, so women
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: will be abusive, and.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: That men are men are promiscuous, so women women will
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: be promiscuous.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 8: Men are sexually aggressive without concern of their partners. So
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: that and then they use that to excuse all of
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: the women's behavior and that that is not masculinity, and
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 8: that is not mature masculinity throughout any all of history.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: Like I have, I've been reading a book that that
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: is basically a ethnographic and maybe an anthrop like a
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: historical study of masculinity and one of the most consistent
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 8: things is this idea that a man is generous and giving,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: so that that is consistent throughout cultures and throughout.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: The leader generous, magnanimous.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, and also protective and provide like, provides and protects.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 8: This is masculinity. If feminists were actually encouraging women to
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 8: be masculine, they would be encouraging women to be generous,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 8: to be self sacrificing, to recognize the needs of others
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 8: who are not women, and to propect and provide for others.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 8: That's not what feminists are encouraging. What they're encouraging is
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 8: this is this incredibly negative stereotype of what we think
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 8: men have gotten away with. Now when it's women's turn
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 8: to get away with things that men never got away with, right,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 8: this is not This has nothing to do with masculinity.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 8: It has to do with being a shitbird. And so
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: they're not encouraging women to be masculine. So she when
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 8: he says that, I think that he's And the funny
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 8: thing is is that they say that when women nang,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 8: and when when women are this emotionally aggressive and socially
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 8: that that's masculine. And yet for the most part. I
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 8: only ever see women doing that, So how is that masculine?
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 8: Like men tend to be more like, Oh, you've identified
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 8: a problem, let me go fix it. Not I am
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 8: going to bow break another human being and to solving
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: my problems. I've rarely seen men do that. I mean
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 8: they do, but it's not generally associated with masculinity. Solving
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: the problem is associated with masculinity.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: So how can licking yourself? Please?
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm a dog.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 8: I'm not currently licking myself.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: Karen, Well, that's masculinity for you.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but did you see what I'm saying? Them still
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 8: encourage women to be masculine. They encourage women to.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: Be They encourage women to be Gilgamesh at the start
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: first chapter of the epic, not the last chapter of
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: the epic.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what they're encouraging.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: Should we listen to somebody who's got a little bit
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 8: more of a finger on the pulse of your problem?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Well, first I do. I got to read some super
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: childs that I missed. They didn't show up in my
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: social stream ninja, So I'm gonna read them really quick
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: right now, and then we'll play more of this ass
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: thrun gives us five dollars and says the men weren't
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: complaining about porn before. OnlyFans is a speel by these
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: people to perpetuate the idea that any criticism is about
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: men's inherent drive to control women's bodies. But let's ignore
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: how these only fans people are abusing the power they
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: have and then cry about it. I mean, if they're
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: making a lot of then they clearly are, like, you know,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: they have some control, right. Richard Bierre then gives us
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: five dollars and says, would have any would have anyone
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: known who Paris Hilton is if she hadn't made her
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: sex tape, or Kim Kardashian for that matter, who's even
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: less known. At least Paris Hilton is the daughter of
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: the guy who owns the Hilton hotels, right, and if
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: she were to become the overall leader of the hotel company,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: how would that company do in the future. Well, she
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't do any work. She probably had people doing
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff for her, So I would assume
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: that the Hiltons would do the same as they've been doing.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: I don't even think her father does a whole lot there.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: I know, I would assume her dad would give her
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: good advice as to who to put in charge of things.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, so thank you for that. Let's
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: play some more of this this video.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 15: I thought that's who we were talking about it.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: And here in the question, like he said, I.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 6: Think that feminists are against anything that's actually masculine.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 10: So they're trying to get rid of it.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 15: And I think it's more than that they're kind of
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 15: replacing it. They're kind of trying to redefine what masculinity is.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 15: So you know what, probably the better answer is traditional
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 15: masculinity is being replaced by something that is not masculine
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 15: at all.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 6: Well, and the question is how do you raise masculinity?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 8: Not what they're doing. What they're doing is they're removing
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: all recognition. They can't do a damn thing about masculinity
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 8: because masculinity is something that comes out of men. What
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 8: they're trying to do is get rid of any recognition
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 8: of the positive attributes of masculinity and society.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: Like all described his process very well in an academic
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: paper in terms of developing the new Conformity to masculine
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: norms inventory, Well, we just took anything that was positive
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: about men that women also felt like, you know, sometimes
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: I'm expected to be brave, sometimes I'm expected to be hardworking,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: sometimes I'm expected to be successful.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: Right, And.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: They just removed all of those off the list, and
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: they were left with like the negative traits, right yep.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: And they don't recognize, even even if you take away
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 8: the expectations placed on men, that masculinity and men itself
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 8: has a beneficial way of approaching things. So men being
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 8: masculine approach problems, approach parenting, approach work in a way
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 8: that's beneficial for everyone. They can't even they cannot recognize that.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: They can't acknowledge that. And every time I've asked a feminist, okay,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 8: you associate all these toxic things with masculinity, name one thing,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: one uniquely positive thing that you associate with masculinity the
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: way you associate these toxic things, they don't. So this whole,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 8: this whole exercise is in removing recognitions of the positive
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 8: things that masculinity and men bring society, which are many
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 8: and varied, and it's very easy to figure it out,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 8: and replacing it with an association between men and criminal
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 8: and toxic behaviors. That's what it is, you know, And
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 8: they aren't replacing masculinity with something. They're trying to make
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 8: men acknowledge that their masculinity offers nothing to the world,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 8: and everything that's good about them is due to the
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 8: fact that they've embraced femininity or subjugation to feminism.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah, I that would be the way I
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: would put it. All right, let's place some more.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 6: You need fathers in the home to teach them. At
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: and feminism have given incentives to take the father out
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: of the home.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 9: And do you want to give us a few examples
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 9: before we pull these guys.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: In, Well, what percent of men actually get custody of
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: their children? It's fifty percent of their DNA. Why don't
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: they get fifty percent custody?
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 10: All right, let's bring in our disagreees.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 13: Men.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Typically I want to ask why is why did blue
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: orange not agree? Why does he disagree? I don't know
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: if he's going to bring it up, but I'm curious
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: about that. He probably is, like, well, we don't want
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: to say anything crazy, hyperbolic, you know, we don't want
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: to like lose favor with the feminists that we're trying
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: to work with. Sometimes I wonder if he's not a fad.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: I swear, all right, I swear I do Sometimes I wonder, okay.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 8: Before we continue, are these people actually going to argue
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 8: against the idea that feminism is trying to change or
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: remove masculinity or are they going to be object examples
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 8: that feminism is trying to change or remove masculinity.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: Already has succeeded in their case.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean this dude here on the right,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: the plant, he is going to probably say, well, what
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: if it is men, what even is that it doesn't exist?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: Which doesn't is actually in support of the argument here.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: I have become the thing that they told me I
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: have evolved. Allow me to photosynthesize your argument, because all right,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: but anyway, let me play it. Let me play it way.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 7: More often than not, when a woman rightfully and honestly
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 7: gives her experience of domestic violence in the marriage, she's
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: more likely to lose custody of her children. There is
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 7: no issue with men getting customer.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 8: That is absolute feminist and formed bullshit.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, unless unless you're counting ligie a freakin' filler vlat
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: x x.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 8: HM. Well, just give a bit of an explanation.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Of that, Karen vlad Fuller.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: Latxx Yeah, yeah, just just Alison drop out.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, she's asking you for the backstory.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: Rock Rodick Filler's ex Okay. So, so she was massively abusive,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: massively abusive to the kids, massively abusive to him, right
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: and uh and.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: She mentally ill, right, just psycho.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: Right. So she she was picked up by the cops
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: walking down the street right the middle of the street,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: naked okay, screaming uh, threats and obscenities okay, And she's
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: in the back of the cop car and they recorded
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: her and she was like threatening the cops. She's like,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: I have brothers. I have brothers, and they're gonna cut
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: you into pieces and bury you where they'll never find you.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: You fucking cops and ship like that, right, just absolute
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: fucking psycho.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: So then she gets in to the cops station and
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: it's they got the cameras on on her in the
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: waiting room before the interview, right or in the interview
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: room with her advocate friend, right, you know.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: Uh, And and.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: The friend is telling her you need to you need
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: to like gin up some tears, tell them that he
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: raped you, right, and so she did. She ginned up
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: some tears and told her that he raped her. And
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: that began his years long odyssey through the court system.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: Right now, the judge in the family court was actually sane.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: So while Verdick Filler is uh in jail, okay, in
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: jail on domestic violence and spousal rape charges, Okay, a
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: waiting trial. The kids were put into care. They were
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: not given back to the mother, okay, because she's a
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: psycho and the family judge had some experience with her.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: She twice tried to kidnap them from foster care.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: And then he was convicted of rape, and the judge
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: awarded custody to him, right because she was a psycho.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: And I mean, like, I've met these kids. Oh wait, no,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: not those kids.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: I haven't met his kids, but similar situation, right, like
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: he basically the family court judge saw through the whole thing. Right.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: And this is in Maryland, I think it was, or
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  Speaker 3: one of those sort of New England states and.
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  Speaker 5: Bar Harbor, Maine. It was in Maine. Bar Harbor.
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  Speaker 3: DA radical feminist named Mary Kelly decided it was her
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: life's mission to get him convicted. So she withheld a
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: ton of evidence. She even ordered police to destroy evidence, right, okay,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: and then in her closing arguments at his trial, right,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: she says, well, says to the jury, Well, if there
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: was any evidence he didn't rape her, you'd think he
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  Speaker 3: would have presented it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what how do you Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you think he would have presented it. And like
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: she just refused to disclose evidence on discovery that was
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: exculpatory for him.
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  Speaker 5: She even ordered some of it destroyed.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: The police did not do that, thank goodness. But which
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: is why we have that police recording of her in
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: the back seat of the police car threatening to cut
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: the cops into little pieces and bury them where no
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: one will ever find them.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so you have this situation where there's this psycho
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: woman and you know what he was. He was He
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: got a she got disciplined, she got a She was
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: suspended for two months while the disciplinary hearings were going on,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: and then they gave her a suspended suspension. The sentence
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: of suspended suspension. Right, so uh, basically, you can go
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: back to work as long as you behave we suspend
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: you for two months, but you've already you know whatever
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: it was, right, we're suspending it as long as you behave.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: We're suspending the suspension as long as you behave. She
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: ended up getting fired when the new She was an
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: Ada assistant district Attorney, I believe, and when the new
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: DA was elected, he fired her almost immediately. But but
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: she had a rate of prosecution for domestic violence and
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: sexual assault that was forty two times higher than any
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: other prosecutor in the region, forty two times higher. So
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: she obviously had an agenda. And Leijiah Filler was an
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: absolute fucking nut job. Violent, right, violent with the kids,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: violent with her husband, violent with the cops, violent with everybody.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: And uh and he a convicted rapist and domestic abuser
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: one custody of his kids. Oh well, that means he
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: was a rapist and a domestic abuser.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: Right, you've met Vladik.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: He's the sweetest guy ever, right, absolutely wonderful guy. Is he?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 8: Is he gonna get that overturned.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: Or I think they did eventually overturn.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 8: It, but because it was prosecutor prosecutorial misconduct, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 8: And here's the thing. We don't hear stories about this
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 8: in the reverse, No, like we don't. Never are your
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 8: stories like this in the reverse where a man gets
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 8: the mother accused of rape and then she loses custody
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 8: and she was the one who is the victim of
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 8: a out of control chief prosecutor or was an assistant prosecutor.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: Well out of control. It was an assistant da.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: But but you do have like or and amite. He's like,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: he's a psychologist. I interviewed him on my channel a
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: while back, or maybe it was on his channel, but
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: he he said, he said, you know, like you do
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: see cases of you do see cases of women coming
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: in who have also been just absolutely destroyed by the
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: family court system, right, unjustly, right, And it's like he's like,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: they all have one thing in common. They married a
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: very smart, very charming, very charismatic.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: Sociopath.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, just somebody who's just like that smooth, right,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: a Gavin Newsom. They married Gavin Newsom, and they got
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: screwed in the divorce and in family court. Right. When
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: you see men coming in for counseling because they've been reamed,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: doesn't need to be very smart, very charming, very charismatic sociopath,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: It just needs to be a woman.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 8: So essentially, a man needs to be like.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: Work extra hard, to screw a woman over in divorce court.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 8: That's why, just be motivated to do it and also
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 8: have the skills to do it, which is going to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 8: put him in like the top one percent of us
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 8: socially skilled men, like yeah, usually those are sociopaths. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 8: so the only man the only people that the family
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 8: courts actually emboldened air sociopathic men and women with very
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 8: low morals. Yep, Okay, all right, there we go. There,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 8: that's all leaves.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: I can still get an abortion.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have to. I have to.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: We have to stop because I had to do the
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: Patron Show and then I got to pick Lindsay up
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: so okay, yeah, and Karen's got to go soon anyways,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: but I think we should. We should keep going with
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: this because it gets it gets a lot better. So yeah,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: even better, even better. So yeah, I think I don't know,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, there's not a lot else going on,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: and I think it's a pretty decent video to respond to.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: Might as well we could do it.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 8: We could continue tomorrow at the same time, Friday, same time,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 8: if Karen is if Karen wants to sure, yeah, okay,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 8: then that's what we'll do. Well, we will wait.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: Wait, wait, maybe not.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: Oh it's Fridays.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: It's Friday, so no, no, I'm just thinking, do I
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: have to drive my mother somewhere?
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah? I don't think so, Okay, well, well we'll follow up.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 8: But anyway, we will continue this because it is an
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 8: amalgamation of all the crap that people use to pretend
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 8: they don't have problems the problem.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: I just wish people on these things, right, these Jubilee things,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 3: I wish they were actually more informed, because a lot
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: of them aren't. Like the people who are arguing on
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: this now.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: They're just like TikTok influencers and that.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: We're generally on right. Okay, we're generally on. They're just
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: not informed enough to really make the argument.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: Or Jubilee is like selecting people for different reasons.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 8: Well they did. They did invite me on so maybe
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 8: because I'm a complete spurg and they thought, yeah, they
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 8: thought that they would get good copy from me somehow.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 8: But you know, like I would have tried to bring
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 8: elevate the conversation. But the thing is that we need
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 8: to get well past arguing whether or not the problem exists.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 8: We need to solve the problem.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean Jubilee's questions.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: Remember that they're the ones setting the tone with questions like,
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: you know, if feminism is trying to remove society, women
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be judged for sleuty behavior or things like that.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: So like you're kind of like, Okay, how do I
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: What you have to do is you have to take
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: the shitty question that they put out there and you
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: have to like make something edible out of it. Yeah,
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: you have to a polish the third Yes, So that's
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: the challenge. But I think there's people that are up
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 8: Okay. Well, the thing is like, if they asked a
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 8: question like, okay, is feminism getting rid of masculinity? I
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 8: probably would have laid out the argument that I laid
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 8: out here. Yes, and it's it's patently obvious. And I
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 8: would actually even propose to the people who stand up
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 8: and try to defend this, what is a positive quality
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 8: that you associate with men in the same way that
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 8: you associate these negative qualities? And if you can't say it,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 8: then you may not be trying to get removed masculinity,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 8: but you sure as hell are trying to frame it
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 8: in the worst possible light. But then the question is why,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 8: why are we trying to get rid of masculinity. I mean,
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 8: it's obvious, but why why are we doing this?
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: That?
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 8: That's that's that's what I would probably try to steer
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 8: the conversation towards so we can start getting into the
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 8: realm of trying to figure out a solution. But you know,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: I didn't go because I didn't want to test my
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 8: My five year band ended last this August, but I didn't.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 8: It's it's it's an iffy thing. Let's just say every
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 8: every every border crossing is a fiefdom onto the border guards.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Ever, well, ever since that DHS report.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 8: Too, right, DHS.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, remember the report commission for the DHS. The DHS
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: spent like.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: The Department of hoole Land Security when they spent all
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: that money to like discourage manosphere content.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, you know, yeah, named me by name,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: named Honey Badgers by name.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So I'm on as an agent of the society
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: that you know, I'm on a watch list. Probably, yeah,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 8: you're on.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 5: You're on the extra pat down.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: I was able to get on, get into Canada and back.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: So maybe because because no, it's because it's because.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 5: You're a US citizen.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: So you returning from Canada, not a problem, right, But
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: if you're trying to enter Canada, well, Canada does not
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: have the DHS. Is the little freaking report on incil
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: adjacent potential domestic terrorists?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 5: Right or if they do, they don't take it seriously.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: So so yeah.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: It's it's a little bit different when you're a foreigner
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: coming in then then yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the US
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: Department of Home.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 8: If I ever if I ever test the border thing,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 8: it's probably going to just be for like a vacation,
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm going to I'm not even going to
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 8: attempt anything that has nothing to do with business but
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 8: could be tangentially related or presented as doing having some
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 8: kind of connection like we'll seely an American's job or whatever.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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