Latest / Investor Exchange / Nam Cheong's Q3 2025 80% Profit Collapse Explained
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Welcome to The Deep Dive, the show where we, well, we take a deep stack of quarterly
- 0:12reports, financial statements, and operational notes, and we try to pull out
- 0:16what really matters for you.
- 0:17And today our mission is pretty crucial. We're analyzing the financial results
- 0:22of Nam Chian Limited, that's NCL,
- 0:24a major player in the Malaysian Offshore Support Vessel, or OSV, market.
- 0:28We've got the third quarter and the nine-month figures for 2025.
- 0:33And it's a challenging mission because NCL just came out of a huge financial overhaul.
- 0:37They wrapped up this massive debt restructuring scheme, the DRMA, back in early 2024.
- 0:43Right. So just comparing 2025 to 2024, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
- 0:48If the oranges were on fire last year, you have to normalize everything.
- 0:52You absolutely do. If you, as a listener, just glance at the headline net profit,
- 0:55you're going to see a collapse. I mean, a truly severe drop that might cause
- 1:00a bit of a panic. But it's not real.
- 1:01It's not. It's almost entirely due to non-cash, one-off accounting gains they booked last year.
- 1:08So our focus today is to isolate the true operational health.
- 1:14What's their core profitability? How are they managing their debt?
- 1:17And, you know, what's the real outlook for their market? Exactly.
- 1:20We've got the revenue figures, the profit drivers, their cash management strategy,
- 1:24and the big market forces at play.
- 1:28And the summary for you up front is things are pretty stable,
- 1:31but it's all masked by some very loud accounting noise.
- 1:34Let's jump right in, starting with the operational reality, the top line.
- 1:37So when we look at NCL's business, they technically have two segments, right?
- 1:41Shipbuilding and vessel chartering. They do, on paper. But in practice,
- 1:44right now, they're really a one-segment company.
- 1:46Precisely. For the third quarter and across the whole nine months of 2025,
- 1:50the shipbuilding segment.
- 1:51It registered zero revenue. Nothing. Not a thing. No vessels were scheduled for delivery or sale.
- 1:57So every single ringgit they brought in came from chartering their fleet of OSVs.
- 2:01Okay, so let's zoom in on that. The nine-month revenue for 2025 was RM449 million.
- 2:08That's actually down 12% from the year before. It is.
- 2:11And that 12% year-over-year drop is pretty easy to explain. It was basically
- 2:16driven by lower average vessel utilization.
- 2:18So fewer boats working on average. Exactly. But that's where you have to be careful.
- 2:22You can't just stop at the nine-month number. You have to look at the current
- 2:24momentum, the quarter-over-quarter trend. And that's where the picture gets a lot better.
- 2:29It does. For Q3 2025, revenue is RM170.8 million.
- 2:35Now, that's still down 15% from a really high point in Q3 of last year.
- 2:40But it's up 6% from the quarter just before, from Q2. Right.
- 2:43And that sequential growth tells us the company is moving in the right direction.
- 2:47And what drove that 6% jump? The reports are clear.
- 2:51It was the start of new long-term charter contracts.
- 2:55So utilization is starting to climb again. It is. It hits 70% in Q3,
- 2:59which is a little up from 68% in Q2.
- 3:01And what's really fascinating here is that they're not just chasing any work.
- 3:04They're chasing stability.
- 3:06They've managed to place 60% of their entire fleet under these long-term contracts. 60%?
- 3:12Wow. That must be absolutely critical for them after the restructuring.
- 3:16They need that predictable income, not the ups and downs of the spot market.
- 3:19That's it, exactly. That 60% is their baseline. It guarantees the cash flow,
- 3:23which is, you know, the oxygen they need right now.
- 3:25It shows they're focused on a solid recovery.
- 3:29Not just chasing the highest possible short-term rates. Okay, that makes sense.
- 3:33So moving on from income, let's get to those scary-looking headlines on profitability.
- 3:38This is where we need to unpack that accounting distortion. Yes,
- 3:41this is the critical moment in the deep dive.
- 3:44If you look at the nine-month profit before tax, the PBT, it fell 77%.
- 3:4977. From over RM740 million down to about RM170 million, net profit dropped
- 3:5680%. If you didn't know the backstory, You'd assume the company was fundamentally failing.
- 4:00But it wasn't. It was just benefiting from some, I guess, accounting magic last
- 4:05year. Why was 2024 so inflated?
- 4:08It was all because of that debt restructuring scheme. When it was finalized
- 4:11in March 2024, NCL recorded this enormous non-cash gain.
- 4:17They had a line item, other income, of over RM500 million. And most of that was what?
- 4:23RM393 million of it was a non-cash gain on the waiver of debt.
- 4:26So the banks just wrote off a huge chunk of what NCL owed them.
- 4:30And under accounting rules, that waived debt gets booked as a profit for the
- 4:34year. That's essentially it.
- 4:35It's like wiping the slate clean. And that reduction in liabilities shows up
- 4:39as a huge one-time income boost.
- 4:42It was windfall in 2024 that, of course, isn't there in 2025.
- 4:46Which makes the year-over-year comparison completely useless for judging how
- 4:49the business is actually doing. Totally meaningless.
- 4:51So the only way to get a clear view is to look at what we'd call core profit. Right.
- 4:55So if we strip out that massive debt waiver and any other one-offs,
- 4:58what does the real operational picture look like?
- 5:01The picture looks, well, pretty stable and healthy.
- 5:03Core profit for the nine months was RM133.7 million. And here's the key part.
- 5:08That's only down about 12 percent from the previous year's core profit.
- 5:12And that 12 percent drop, it lines up perfectly with the 12 percent drop in
- 5:16revenue we talked about.
- 5:17It does. It confirms that their operational efficiency and their profit margins, they held up.
- 5:21They're still getting good prices for their services. Speaking of margins,
- 5:25their gross profit margin was 51% for the nine months.
- 5:30I mean, that is incredibly strong. It suggests they have real pricing power.
- 5:34They do. Now, there were a couple of areas of cost pressure.
- 5:38First, selling and administrative expenses, they went up about 15%,
- 5:42mainly due to an increase in staff costs.
- 5:45Which could just be a necessary investment, you know, rebuilding the team after
- 5:49restructuring. What was the other one?
- 5:51The other was a big jump in other operating expenses that was driven by a specific
- 5:56one-off litigation settlement they paid to a supplier.
- 5:59So again, it's a cleanup cost from the past, not a reflection of current operations.
- 6:02That makes sense. And what about that slight dip in the margin just in the third quarter?
- 6:06It fell by about 1.4 percentage points.
- 6:09Ah, yes. That was due to some extra vessel operating costs. They had some scheduled
- 6:13maintenance activities, some dry docking.
- 6:15Which is actually a good sign, isn't it? It means there's investing in the fleet.
- 6:19It's a very positive sign. They're making sure the assets are in top shape,
- 6:22which is what you have to do to win those valuable long-term contracts.
- 6:26And that is a perfect transition.
- 6:28Let's pivot to the balance sheet. After all that restructuring,
- 6:32how are they actually managing their debt and their cash?
- 6:35So the data here shows a really systematic and successful deleveraging process.
- 6:42Compared to the end of 2024, their total liabilities are down 12 percent.
- 6:47That's a reduction of over RM 82 million.
- 6:50It is. And the biggest driver was a huge 41 percent drop in trade and other
- 6:55payables. They're basically just aggressively paying off their suppliers and vendors.
- 6:59Oh, they're cleaning up the books, making good on their promises.
- 7:02Now, what's interesting is even with liabilities going down,
- 7:04their total assets actually went up by 4%. How does that work?
- 7:08This is where we see their strategy in action. Yeah.
- 7:11That increase in assets was mostly driven by two things. First,
- 7:15property, plant, and equipment went up. Which is the maintenance spending we just talked about.
- 7:19Exactly. The dry docking, the retrofitting, it's not just an expense.
- 7:23It increases the value and the useful life of the vessels. So it becomes an asset.
- 7:27They're capitalizing the maintenance. So what was the second thing you mentioned?
- 7:31A big jump in inventories. Right. Inventories were up by almost RM 100 million.
- 7:35And for a shipbuilder, this isn't, you know, widgets on a shelf.
- 7:40The source in Clarified, this is mostly vessels under construction.
- 7:43Ah, so that's a forward-looking move. They're investing in future assets that
- 7:47could be worth a lot if the market keeps tightening.
- 7:49It looks that way. It's a very strategic investment. So if they're paying down
- 7:53debt and investing in assets, where did all that cash come from?
- 7:56Well, they put their existing cash reserves to work.
- 7:59Cash and bank balances fell sharply, down 56 percent, or about RM71 million.
- 8:05So they used their savings to fund the cleanup. Precisely.
- 8:09The net cash used in financing activities for the nine months was RM75 million,
- 8:13and that was almost all scheduled repayment of borrowings.
- 8:16It's a very clear picture. So, steady operating income is funding the planned repayment of debt.
- 8:21They're doing exactly what they said they would do after the DRMA.
- 8:24It's a very orderly recovery, built on the back of that resilient chartering business.
- 8:29Hmm. Which brings us perfectly to the outlook.
- 8:32What are the big forces supporting all of this? Well, what stands out to me
- 8:36is that it's not just NCL's own smart moves.
- 8:38The whole market seems to be working in their favor, especially with the supply
- 8:42constraints on these OSVs. That's the key leverage point.
- 8:46The local OSV market is facing a significant supply shortage,
- 8:49and it looks structural, not cyclical.
- 8:52Meaning it's not going away anytime soon. Right. If you look at the global OSV
- 8:56fleet, the average age is now 15 to 16 years old. a lot of these vessels are
- 9:01getting to the point where they need to be replaced.
- 9:03But nobody's building new ones, or not enough anyway. Exactly.
- 9:07New vessel construction is still really subdued. The banks and financiers are just.
- 9:12They're still very cautious after getting burned so badly during the last big
- 9:16oil slump. So you have this classic bottleneck.
- 9:19Demand is there, but supply is shrinking because the financing to build new
- 9:23ships just isn't flowing.
- 9:25And in Malaysia, you also have the cabotage policies, which restrict foreign
- 9:30vessels, adding another layer of protection for local players like NCL.
- 9:35So what does that all mean for charter rates?
- 9:38The forecast is that OSV charter rates will remain well supported all the way through 2026.
- 9:45This is crucial for NCL's ability to keep that, you know, 51% gross margin.
- 9:50And they're in a prime position to benefit since they have the largest and probably
- 9:54most advanced fleet in Malaysian waters.
- 9:56And their strategy reflects that. They're still aiming to increase their long-term
- 10:00contract coverage to 70% of the fleet, up from the 60% they have now.
- 10:05It's about locking in those strong future revenues. And what about the shipbuilding
- 10:09side, the part that's been quiet for so long? They're seeing a steady stream
- 10:13of inquiries for new builds, but they're being very clear that they're going
- 10:16to be disciplined and selective.
- 10:18Post-restructuring, it's all about long-term value, not just filling up the order book.
- 10:22So if I can just summarize the key takeaways for you, the listener,
- 10:26NCL's foundation is solid.
- 10:28That headline, 80% profit drop. It was just a misleading echo from last year's
- 10:32debt waiver. A ghost in the machine. Exactly.
- 10:35Underneath all that noise, their core chartering business is humming along with
- 10:39great margins, and they're locking in more and more stable long-term contracts.
- 10:44They're using that cash to pay down debt and invest in their fleet,
- 10:47which positions them perfectly for a market where there just aren't enough boats
- 10:50to go around. And what's so fascinating is that this structural shortage is
- 10:54really being enforced by the bank's caution about financing new ships.
- 10:58NCL's strong cash flow is letting them navigate this, but the whole industry
- 11:03is being constrained, which raises a really important long-term question.
- 11:07Given that the global OSV fleet is getting older and older, I mean,
- 11:1015 to 16 years on average, how long can that caution from the financiers last
- 11:15before this structural shortage becomes so acute that it forces a massive,
- 11:20necessary, and probably very expensive wave of new build projects?
- 11:24And who is going to end up paying for them? It's the definition of a ticking clock.
- 11:27The pressure is just going to keep building until that financing dam finally breaks.
- 11:32Something for Eden Mullover. Thank you for joining us on The Deep Dive.
- 11:37Music.