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- 0:00Speaker 1: Back at it for another episode of the brav and
- 0:02Speaker 1: Now Sea Show. I'm your host, f web seen O.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Damn, you gotta let some things go, my brother.
- 0:10Speaker 1: I'm the official blind Stupper, the voice of the disableds,
- 0:12Speaker 1: and I'm in here with the Queen of the Chair,
- 0:14Speaker 1: the Queen of the Queen of the throne. Bit right.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hot wheels for real again aka Frenchy minage.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Not too heavy on the minaje though, because I'm a
- 0:27Speaker 2: lady and we're back and today it's Friday. So what
- 0:34Speaker 2: we doing? What you're doing after this?
- 0:36Speaker 3: Now I'm chelling. I'm staying at the clubs for all.
- 0:38Speaker 2: You're staying at the club So your birthday you graduated
- 0:40Speaker 2: from it.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm bigger, better things. I'm trying to
- 0:43Speaker 1: invention into different things that it were. You know, Okay,
- 0:48Speaker 1: I don't want to rough shoulders with nobody.
- 0:49Speaker 2: No, actually everybody in own lane, you know, all right?
- 0:53Speaker 2: I like that.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I mean shout out to the mental health out there today.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Mental health awareness till Friday.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Mental health awarness say world, it's important. That's what big
- 1:01Speaker 2: on in this podcast. And tomorrow you're going.
- 1:03Speaker 1: To the Mental Health Expold. That's as friend, I said,
- 1:06Speaker 1: you want to you coming trying to come to hell? No,
- 1:08Speaker 1: I said, damn no.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I can't give up a Saturday morning. This is my
- 1:11Speaker 2: first Saturday morning getting to sleep in for a while.
- 1:15Speaker 2: When I seen the time, I googled us say no,
- 1:17Speaker 2: especially after I didn't go do that run for disability.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I know y'all ain't judging me. I know y'all ain't
- 1:22Speaker 2: judging me. If th ky, I ain't do that run
- 1:24Speaker 2: for this, they left me hanging.
- 1:25Speaker 3: I did a five K, the next one, the next
- 1:28Speaker 3: one we locked up.
- 1:28Speaker 2: The next one three k. No, it was five k.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Five k is three miles though, that's probably what you confused.
- 1:36Speaker 2: But I did it, guys, We did it. Joe. My
- 1:38Speaker 2: muscles was hurting, everything hurt it, and I rolle that
- 1:41Speaker 2: whole thing by myself, sweating. I was like, when I
- 1:48Speaker 2: came to the end, everybody talking to me, how do
- 1:50Speaker 2: you feel? How do you feel? Give me some water?
- 1:54Speaker 2: That's how I felt. They sending it talking to me,
- 1:56Speaker 2: everybody talking.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up. Wheelchair sounded like that.
- 2:00Speaker 2: You know this should be sound. That's just sounded like
- 2:01Speaker 2: the MTA sounded like the train. At that point, maybe.
- 2:05Speaker 3: You put some mouths on that thing.
- 2:08Speaker 2: But also with it being mental health awareness, it's also
- 2:11Speaker 2: a blind awareness month.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Shout out to all the blond niggas out there that
- 2:14Speaker 3: want to be like me, you.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Know, and the ones who don't, the ones who just
- 2:18Speaker 2: want to.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Be Everybody want to be like seeing I'm like like Mike.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Everybody want to be like Mike. Everybody want to be
- 2:24Speaker 1: Sino who the didn't want to grow up to be
- 2:26Speaker 1: like Joe and or Ivison? All right, so all the
- 2:29Speaker 1: blond people want to be like.
- 2:30Speaker 2: You know, I like, you know, I like to think
- 2:32Speaker 2: of myself as like that for the wheelchair, you know,
- 2:35Speaker 2: So I respect it, I understand.
- 2:37Speaker 3: But we'll be getting it.
- 2:39Speaker 2: So it's also domestic it's also domestic violence Awareness Month.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And as someone who survived domestic violence on multip occasions,
- 2:49Speaker 2: sides to save, that's what today's episode is about, just
- 2:52Speaker 2: to bring more awareness to it and show how close
- 2:54Speaker 2: to home it can be and how you can help
- 2:56Speaker 2: others in a situation. Absolutely, so to start us off,
- 3:00Speaker 2: because we can't we can't be hypocritical. So have you
- 3:07Speaker 2: ever been a victim of domestic valucemestic violence? Yeah?
- 3:13Speaker 3: Have you ever just wanted to kick it off on me.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Have you ever been a victim? Have you ever been
- 3:17Speaker 2: a victim of domestic violence? Because men are victims?
- 3:19Speaker 3: You definitely hit me?
- 3:21Speaker 2: No, but seriousness, No, absolutely, they definitely hit me. How
- 3:25Speaker 2: many times have you been DV?
- 3:26Speaker 3: Numerous times? A lot of time women.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Yeah, slap punched in my face. I ran from Yeah, absolutely?
- 3:33Speaker 2: And did you what did you feel in those moments
- 3:35Speaker 2: when they hit you? How did you feel?
- 3:37Speaker 1: Let me get away from shure you bugging? You wild
- 3:40Speaker 1: and you crazy like and like it's not a joke,
- 3:44Speaker 1: but not for nothing. When people hit domestic violence on men,
- 3:47Speaker 1: they ignore it.
- 3:48Speaker 2: But look how not to be funny, but you laughed
- 3:51Speaker 2: the ENTI you had an immaculated smirkle in your face.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Y'a did laugh like even though they hit me this time,
- 3:59Speaker 1: And I'd be like, like my big self, your little
- 4:01Speaker 1: self is like, you can't hurt me.
- 4:03Speaker 2: That's how I be feeling now. I know some bitches
- 4:05Speaker 2: that can pack a punch. You can't hit by the
- 4:07Speaker 2: right bitch you're falling over.
- 4:09Speaker 3: And like Carrisha shild are running from.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Off because I'm realistically I'm if I was walking, I'll
- 4:14Speaker 2: be five nine five ten. You know what I'm saying.
- 4:17Speaker 2: So like I'm tall, my hands are big. You hit
- 4:20Speaker 2: up hit that punch?
- 4:23Speaker 3: So have you committed?
- 4:26Speaker 2: We're not into that yet.
- 4:28Speaker 1: No.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Wait, so okay, Well have I hit someone before? Yes,
- 4:33Speaker 2: yes I have, but I've never hit someone. Uh No,
- 4:39Speaker 2: I can't say that I have hit people before.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Yeah, men, men, yeah before the wheelchair.
- 4:46Speaker 2: In the wheelchair mostly you got to remember most of
- 4:49Speaker 2: my life in a wheelchair in a wheelchair.
- 4:51Speaker 3: So like you know you are you are og.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in a chair for fourteen years.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Question, how did Nigga let you get that close to
- 4:59Speaker 3: his face?
- 4:59Speaker 2: My arm alone?
- 5:01Speaker 3: Pow, But still.
- 5:04Speaker 2: It don't matter. In the bad sitting in the car,
- 5:06Speaker 2: sit in the bed, sit in the car, meet me me,
- 5:09Speaker 2: go through that phone, make me meat. What you said? What?
- 5:13Speaker 2: What the fuck? What cold killery saying on baddies you
- 5:18Speaker 2: talking about?
- 5:18Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 5:19Speaker 2: Well up in it on my in the of bus lips,
- 5:22Speaker 2: bloody noses. Had Nigga's hanging over the sink. My mama
- 5:27Speaker 2: got him hanging over the sink while his nose is
- 5:30Speaker 2: that you see that right? But this is I did
- 5:33Speaker 2: laugh and that is not right. But this is this
- 5:35Speaker 2: is why we have to re recalibrate our minds to
- 5:39Speaker 2: see that domestic violence towards men is wrong. Because I
- 5:42Speaker 2: have a son. I don't want no girl thinking she
- 5:45Speaker 2: could just be beating on my baby, you know what
- 5:47Speaker 2: I mean? Absolutely, I don't condone it. And then when
- 5:50Speaker 2: men react, we get all he reacted. But it's only
- 5:53Speaker 2: so much a person could take. Because everybody's seen human
- 5:55Speaker 2: and everybody has natural reflexes. There are some men that
- 5:58Speaker 2: will swing back based on the fact that you know
- 6:01Speaker 2: they got hit first, and it takes a lot to
- 6:03Speaker 2: get to that point. Is it right? No, But I
- 6:05Speaker 2: don't judge those so much as domestic violence as I
- 6:08Speaker 2: do the ones that do it unprovoked. Now, if no
- 6:11Speaker 2: one's putting their hands on you and you simply just
- 6:14Speaker 2: too to a female, you're a weak human being. You
- 6:17Speaker 2: are a poor excuse of a man. And if you
- 6:19Speaker 2: are a man, you can walk away if a woman
- 6:21Speaker 2: is not allowing you to walk away after she If
- 6:23Speaker 2: she hits you once and you don't choose to walk away,
- 6:25Speaker 2: you choose to sit there, and you choose to continue
- 6:27Speaker 2: to allow her to hit you till you feel like
- 6:28Speaker 2: you're gonna explode. To get hit, then It's like at
- 6:30Speaker 2: that point, you're kind of asking to be in these
- 6:33Speaker 2: type of situations. You know what, Yeah, if you're able
- 6:37Speaker 2: to walk away, if you're able to walk away, then
- 6:39Speaker 2: do so. But if somebody is not letting you walk
- 6:41Speaker 2: away and they keeping you, sometimes you got a smack
- 6:44Speaker 2: bitch not French. No, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. But it's
- 6:50Speaker 2: just like get them up, you to restrain them. We
- 6:53Speaker 2: just go, let's go. God, we just can't let a day.
- 6:57Speaker 3: It's like, how can a woman stop you? Really?
- 7:00Speaker 2: How can a woman stop you? Oh, there's women that
- 7:03Speaker 2: because domestic got violence schools further than just hands. Now,
- 7:06Speaker 2: I know people sat like, people stacked, somebody got a knife.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I'm not women. Women run run over people with cars.
- 7:13Speaker 3: I know, I know for sure they killed.
- 7:15Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of vehicular manslaughter just because I
- 7:19Speaker 2: don't know if that's vehicular homicide.
- 7:21Speaker 3: I'll watch for my man.
- 7:21Speaker 2: And yeah. So it's like, you know that women and
- 7:25Speaker 2: there's people that will kill there's women that will kill
- 7:27Speaker 2: a man. If I don't think because of oh she's
- 7:31Speaker 2: the woman, she can't do this, and that this.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Oh no, she got a knife. Everything is off limits.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Oh you're knocking around.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Everything is off limits. I'm sorry, and it's not. It's
- 7:37Speaker 1: not even to say it like it's cool. But I
- 7:41Speaker 1: gotta live. I gotta get out this door. So if
- 7:42Speaker 1: you're back a knife out, I do it, and then
- 7:44Speaker 1: we call the cops. I wait for the cops. But
- 7:47Speaker 1: be both going. She tries she pulled a knife, we
- 7:50Speaker 1: both going.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Okay, So my next questioning, my next question to you.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Have you ever heard a woman?
- 7:56Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, I did.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Unprovoked or provoked. When I say provoked, it means like
- 8:03Speaker 2: she hits you and then you hit her back. So
- 8:06Speaker 2: let's okay. So let's I just said the people that
- 8:08Speaker 2: did it, you know, provoked kind of get us slide.
- 8:11Speaker 2: So let me hear the unprovoked part, because that is wrong.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Arguing about what you cheating?
- 8:18Speaker 1: No, no I had to do about cheating, just arguing
- 8:22Speaker 1: like we just arguing.
- 8:23Speaker 3: I was very angry. So it was like, this is
- 8:25Speaker 3: when you was blind. I was blind. I never hit
- 8:27Speaker 3: a woman.
- 8:28Speaker 2: When I can see, Oh she let a blond nigga.
- 8:30Speaker 1: No, I might, YO might be over Blindlet's get that
- 8:35Speaker 1: shit straight. That's my I always connect, but not to
- 8:38Speaker 1: say it's good.
- 8:38Speaker 3: But we argu that going left, we don't mean.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Even not booth set to just being to sucking up ahead.
- 8:50Speaker 2: It is why you get that ship.
- 8:52Speaker 3: We arguing again.
- 8:54Speaker 1: My rage is just going my rages to a point.
- 8:56Speaker 1: I just blanked out.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And I blank. It's real, yo, It's all the way,
- 9:04Speaker 3: all the way to the point. I'm just like, yo,
- 9:07Speaker 3: what I say that? Pop? Boom and then she hit
- 9:11Speaker 3: the world bounce back.
- 9:12Speaker 1: I hit her again, boom, but like slam, and I'm
- 9:14Speaker 1: like when it was all set and done, I'm like,
- 9:16Speaker 1: what the fuck is I'm doing now? But like I'm
- 9:19Speaker 1: calming down now, I'm losing it cause it's like I
- 9:22Speaker 1: never in my life putting on hands on a woman.
- 9:24Speaker 3: I'm just like, you can hit me. I know you.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I'm bigger than you, I'm stronger than you. You can't
- 9:27Speaker 1: you hear me, don't do nothing for me, like you
- 9:29Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing to me. But for me to do that,
- 9:32Speaker 1: I lost it and I'm like, damn, I treated her like.
- 9:35Speaker 3: She was a nigga, but she stood there.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Back trying to grab my hands, and it's like, you
- 9:45Speaker 1: can't do it. I feel you trying to grab me.
- 9:47Speaker 3: I'm a slam. I'm struck than you trying to grab me.
- 9:50Speaker 3: I'm a move like I know how to fight.
- 9:53Speaker 4: Especially especially because you're blind, because I can imagine because
- 9:57Speaker 4: you only have like your physical sense rich no sit you.
- 10:00Speaker 3: All I have.
- 10:01Speaker 1: And then in my mind it's too it's like I
- 10:03Speaker 1: can't see they could see. I can't let them get
- 10:05Speaker 1: the best of pixel up to try to knock me out.
- 10:08Speaker 1: So it's like making sure I'm not feeling like at
- 10:11Speaker 1: that moment, it's not I don't see this a woman
- 10:13Speaker 1: in front of me.
- 10:14Speaker 3: I feel like target.
- 10:16Speaker 1: I gotta take this target out. And so they grabbing me,
- 10:19Speaker 1: Like yo, Chris, what are you doing? I upper cut
- 10:21Speaker 1: it dropped, and it's like, damn, bro, this is a
- 10:23Speaker 1: When it was all said and done, this is a
- 10:26Speaker 1: fucking woman.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Brod she stay with you?
- 10:28Speaker 3: Did she stay?
- 10:29Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 10:29Speaker 3: After you did that, I don't know. They got the
- 10:31Speaker 3: fuck out the house. Anybody was scared.
- 10:32Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about did she stay with you?
- 10:34Speaker 3: Like relationship? How he wasn't all right? All right?
- 10:41Speaker 1: One of them we were together and it was like
- 10:43Speaker 1: she was like this this time we were together. She
- 10:47Speaker 1: was like, yo, somebody text your phone. I'm like, it's not.
- 10:51Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. I put it on my pillow,
- 10:53Speaker 1: close my eyes.
- 10:54Speaker 3: The argument. Argument, then.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I wasn't giving her the energy that she I guess
- 11:00Speaker 1: she was like I was just brushing her off, like whatever.
- 11:04Speaker 3: She put her hands on me and it didn't do
- 11:07Speaker 3: nothing to me. But I got out the bed and
- 11:09Speaker 3: it's like trying to back up. Punched her right real quick.
- 11:12Speaker 4: She said, somebody texted your phone. Yeah, meaning like another
- 11:16Speaker 4: woman texted your phone. Yeah okay, so walk that back
- 11:18Speaker 4: and tell the story from there.
- 11:20Speaker 2: She yeah. But didn't I ask you, nigga if it
- 11:23Speaker 2: was because you were she?
- 11:24Speaker 3: I said both. I wasn't cheating, just a number.
- 11:27Speaker 2: God, here we go.
- 11:31Speaker 3: It wasn't a crazy message. It wasn't. It was a
- 11:34Speaker 3: girl popped up on the screen.
- 11:35Speaker 1: So being that I didn't like confronted, like this is
- 11:40Speaker 1: what it is, x y Z, but you're serious it was.
- 11:44Speaker 3: I didn't even ask her read who it was.
- 11:46Speaker 1: I straight put it under my pillow, like yo, stop
- 11:49Speaker 1: looking at my phone. So it was like I dismissed
- 11:52Speaker 1: her feelings. So females are very sensitive creatures. So she
- 11:59Speaker 1: hit you hit me.
- 12:00Speaker 3: I got up. It wasn't crazy. Hit got up.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And beat her, and she like she grabbed her YO crust,
- 12:08Speaker 1: like stop stop. But at that moment I didn't hear nothing,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and I didn't even realize it was her. It just
- 12:14Speaker 1: I blanked out because at this time I was not
- 12:17Speaker 1: getting to help. I'm heavy, I'm medicating myself on drugs.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So then it was like, YO, just get the fuck
- 12:24Speaker 1: away from me if I kill you. And then like
- 12:26Speaker 1: she got out the room and she like she still
- 12:28Speaker 1: wanted willing to stay because it's like, yo, like what
- 12:30Speaker 1: is wrong with you? But I'm like, yo, just leave
- 12:32Speaker 1: me alone. Like I'm heavily medicated, I don't care about nothing.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Then I didn't do the work on myself. So every
- 12:38Speaker 1: time we came into a situation where it's a fighting.
- 12:42Speaker 3: I go back to the day I got shot.
- 12:44Speaker 1: It's like you just that whole day plays in my
- 12:46Speaker 1: head to a point I can't let them get up
- 12:48Speaker 1: one off off And remember.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You guys as PTSD when that has so it.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Was like I can't let them get up one off me.
- 12:53Speaker 1: You got that, you got, you got that punch. Nah,
- 12:56Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you feel like this, So.
- 12:57Speaker 2: You feel like whenever it's something like that happens, it's
- 13:00Speaker 2: like you look at it back to the person who.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Didn't go back, go back to that day. I snapped
- 13:05Speaker 1: when it was all said and done and she left,
- 13:07Speaker 1: I called and I was crying, like, yo, I'm sorry,
- 13:09Speaker 1: like this is not me, Like.
- 13:11Speaker 2: But why do when you do that after after they
- 13:14Speaker 2: be on a woman, they.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Say they cry and say, no, I wasn't. I wasn't myself.
- 13:24Speaker 1: I never jumped out the window to put my hands
- 13:25Speaker 1: on a woman, even when I could see you could
- 13:28Speaker 1: say the craziest sh it to me, go get your
- 13:30Speaker 1: nigga for me.
- 13:30Speaker 2: So was that your last time putting your hands on
- 13:32Speaker 2: a woman?
- 13:32Speaker 3: No, it was not.
- 13:34Speaker 2: When was your When would you say the last time
- 13:36Speaker 2: you put your hands on a woman? About how long ago?
- 13:39Speaker 3: Well, I ain't put my hands on a woman, and.
- 13:43Speaker 1: No, lot like all this happened like between three to
- 13:46Speaker 1: four years from No, two to four.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Years from so it's been about so after that.
- 13:51Speaker 1: It's like now like me and my baby mother we
- 13:53Speaker 1: used to argue and all that, and she's one of
- 13:56Speaker 1: them that I put my hands on before I taught
- 13:58Speaker 1: me and her nigga got into it.
- 13:59Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, keep then on the corner. He wanted
- 14:04Speaker 3: to be big and bad. I'm downstairs. She walks up
- 14:07Speaker 3: on the stoop. He walks up to this when you
- 14:09Speaker 3: was blind, I'm blind.
- 14:10Speaker 2: I'm like, so you felt that Nigga was saiy yo?
- 14:14Speaker 3: What did I tell you? She said?
- 14:16Speaker 1: I told him to stay in the corner. I swung
- 14:18Speaker 1: connected with him. He fell down the stairs. Now it's like,
- 14:21Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go down the stairs because it's open space.
- 14:24Speaker 1: You're not going to get me. Bro, You're not gonna
- 14:26Speaker 1: get me. She goes up stairs, get my son. I
- 14:29Speaker 1: goes upstairs. I'm like, yo, bro, what did I say?
- 14:32Speaker 3: I don't got nothing to do with that. And for
- 14:34Speaker 3: a moment, it just felt like you tried to get me.
- 14:36Speaker 3: You try to lick me.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Straight popped on the boom boom, She hitting the floor.
- 14:42Speaker 3: I'm dragging. I'm dragging.
- 14:44Speaker 1: And it's like I felt bad because I did it
- 14:46Speaker 1: in front of the kids. I did it from the kids.
- 14:48Speaker 1: So I felt like after threw her out. But at
- 14:51Speaker 1: that moment, I ain't gonna lie. I didn't feel ship
- 14:54Speaker 1: because it's like she ran out, she left out my sister, boyfriend,
- 14:59Speaker 1: my sister, being fat down your broke corn, let's go.
- 15:01Speaker 3: He like, nigga, I'm not finished yet. We're going to
- 15:04Speaker 3: find a snigger, bro. And you did this in front
- 15:05Speaker 3: of you, I felt played.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Yeah, but before we get into it, because that's that's
- 15:09Speaker 2: that's a different type of violence. That's not just that's
- 15:12Speaker 2: that's not do messive on it. So we can stay
- 15:13Speaker 2: on topic with this one because we have a lot
- 15:15Speaker 2: more to dive into. So when you did that in
- 15:20Speaker 2: front of your child, did you what did your child do?
- 15:24Speaker 3: Cry? How not? For at that point, I don't know
- 15:27Speaker 3: what was going on.
- 15:27Speaker 2: He was crying, He's asked you to get off his mother.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Everybody ran out the room at that At that point,
- 15:34Speaker 1: everybody was scared of me.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Everybody was scared of me.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It's like this nigga can snapped any given time on anybody,
- 15:41Speaker 1: Like I don't snapped on my sister and she's trying
- 15:43Speaker 1: to make me happy like so it's like at that point.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Stay away from him.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So everybody leaving, everybody running out from me and all that,
- 15:51Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm not done. Nah, I want I
- 15:54Speaker 1: want blood, I want I want to take somebody's life
- 15:55Speaker 1: because that's I felt.
- 15:57Speaker 2: So you're so you feel like you. You are just
- 16:00Speaker 2: triggered by whenever something feels like you. When you feel
- 16:03Speaker 2: like something has the upper hand on you physically, you
- 16:06Speaker 2: lash out. Sometimes I got not no more no before
- 16:09Speaker 2: before you were healed, before you dealt with the ae
- 16:11Speaker 2: of it, that was your reasoning for.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Y'all got the best of me the first time when
- 16:17Speaker 1: I got shot. It's not gonna happen again.
- 16:20Speaker 2: I'm there and say, yo, that's big, because a lot
- 16:23Speaker 2: of men when they well, I I'm not going to
- 16:26Speaker 2: say you were a boy, but you were a boy
- 16:28Speaker 2: when you did those things. I was a little yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 2: so now you're a man. But a lot of boys
- 16:33Speaker 2: make excuses for themselves when they put their hands on
- 16:35Speaker 2: a woman. Oh I went through this or this and
- 16:37Speaker 2: the third. Let's speak there. It's no excuse. If a
- 16:40Speaker 2: woman puts her hands on you, leave her, don't go back,
- 16:43Speaker 2: walk away. Have respect for yourself, the same way you
- 16:45Speaker 2: would want your mother to have respect for themselves, the
- 16:48Speaker 2: same way we tell women, oh, leave, As a man,
- 16:51Speaker 2: you can leave to any can't nobody force you to
- 16:54Speaker 2: be in the situation. You can walk away. I cannot
- 16:57Speaker 2: walk away. So when every time that I was abused,
- 17:00Speaker 2: I've been abused in relationships since I was walking and
- 17:03Speaker 2: I obviously got in his chair from fifteen something. Yeah,
- 17:07Speaker 2: from the boy that took my virginity, put in their
- 17:09Speaker 2: hands on me because men try to use it as
- 17:11Speaker 2: a sense of control.
- 17:12Speaker 3: That's young me being.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Yes, me being.
- 17:16Speaker 3: The way I am.
- 17:17Speaker 2: I'm very outgoing, I'm very friendly, and a lot of
- 17:19Speaker 2: guys don't like that. They don't like for their women
- 17:21Speaker 2: to be friendly. They don't like for their women to
- 17:23Speaker 2: be so open, and they might deem it as like,
- 17:26Speaker 2: I don't know, flirty or whatever the case may be.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And a lot of times they say geminis are flirty.
- 17:31Speaker 2: I could flirt with somebody I'm not even attracted to
- 17:33Speaker 2: just because I'm just super like whatever, Like I'm a
- 17:35Speaker 2: chill girl. I'm a chill girl. It's just that. And
- 17:40Speaker 2: it's a lot of insecurity. So I used to blame
- 17:42Speaker 2: myself like, wow, well maybe if I didn't do this,
- 17:44Speaker 2: and maybe if I didn't do that, and not realizing
- 17:46Speaker 2: that it's nothing you could have did. If a man
- 17:48Speaker 2: wants to hit you, he's gonna hit you because he's
- 17:49Speaker 2: not okay with himself, something inside of himself, whether he's
- 17:52Speaker 2: seen his mother, become, whether he's seen his mother be abused,
- 17:55Speaker 2: whether he never had his father around, whether his mother
- 17:58Speaker 2: abused him, and now he wants to get back at
- 17:59Speaker 2: every female in his life because he felt like he
- 18:02Speaker 2: didn't have that power. So now he gets around relationships
- 18:04Speaker 2: with other women and he wants to take it out
- 18:06Speaker 2: on them because of what his mother did to him.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Or maybe it's share with breath.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Maybe it's just his underlying traumas or something else. Maybe
- 18:15Speaker 2: he was hurt by a woman before and in his
- 18:16Speaker 2: way of not allowing that to happen again, it's by
- 18:19Speaker 2: hurting a woman physically. We will never know these things
- 18:21Speaker 2: because again there's no excuse.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Or maybe he just a bitch exactly like a lot
- 18:26Speaker 1: of these it would be just excuses.
- 18:27Speaker 2: With my situation, I've literally been trapped in someone's house.
- 18:33Speaker 3: When you go walk, no from.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Walking, I'm not walking. And know what you share it.
- 18:37Speaker 2: I was messing with an older guy and that's the
- 18:40Speaker 2: first time. Ladies never messed with someone that's too old
- 18:42Speaker 2: for you, because they'll take advantage because they want that
- 18:44Speaker 2: control over you. That's why they'll do it. I was
- 18:47Speaker 2: fifteen and the guy was twenty six.
- 18:49Speaker 3: The fuck you with do you need your ash?
- 18:51Speaker 2: Yes? I did. Where your fall at? My father had
- 18:55Speaker 2: no clue. My parents are separated at this point, so
- 18:58Speaker 2: I live with my mom and I'm with my dad
- 19:00Speaker 2: on the weekends. And then, you know, when you get older,
- 19:02Speaker 2: you don't you have the choice like, oh, I ain't
- 19:03Speaker 2: going to daddy house every weekend, no more. So I
- 19:05Speaker 2: just got shot. I'm fifteen at this point. Don't nobody
- 19:08Speaker 2: thinking I'm outside doing what the fuck I'm doing?
- 19:10Speaker 3: Twenty six? Go crazy?
- 19:11Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty six? And he was a proverb clearly.
- 19:14Speaker 3: And he needed to die.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I literally he roomed me into thinking what I was
- 19:21Speaker 2: doing was okay. I'd go to his house every day.
- 19:25Speaker 2: I moved off the blog. No, my mother did not
- 19:27Speaker 2: approve of it. She didn't know how old he was.
- 19:28Speaker 2: She just knew he was older and could tell, and
- 19:30Speaker 2: she was not happy with it. My stepfather he couldn't
- 19:33Speaker 2: believe it either. Everybody was just so mad at me.
- 19:35Speaker 2: My friends they're telling me, like, yo, what's wrong with you?
- 19:38Speaker 2: And he was from Ohio and he just had like
- 19:41Speaker 2: this rage. Some light skinned, blue eyed motherfucker white mixed
- 19:47Speaker 2: with black. You know, the motherfucker's be fucked up. And
- 19:50Speaker 2: he just had a lot of rage in him. I
- 19:52Speaker 2: don't even think he was white mixed with black. I
- 19:53Speaker 2: think he was a rad mixed with black. So he
- 19:56Speaker 2: had so many issues, and he came to New York.
- 20:00Speaker 2: He was running from something in Ohio. Maybe he did
- 20:02Speaker 2: something and they ran him out of there.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he had a lot of kids too.
- 20:07Speaker 2: So I remember one day I was just like, I
- 20:11Speaker 2: said something to him and he was like, what bitch,
- 20:13Speaker 2: Like he just latched.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Out on me.
- 20:14Speaker 2: And it's not funny, but he took a Crayola says there,
- 20:18Speaker 2: and he was like a nigga like me, I'll kill
- 20:20Speaker 2: you if I love you when you say you don't
- 20:22Speaker 2: want to be with me and them, while I kill
- 20:23Speaker 2: a bitch that I love. Da da da da. So
- 20:24Speaker 2: I'm just looking and he put that shit to my heart,
- 20:26Speaker 2: but I'm like, just a crayola. This ain't about the
- 20:28Speaker 2: break night. But then it was like the way he
- 20:30Speaker 2: was stabbing it, like the pressure was going into my
- 20:33Speaker 2: chest and I'm like, yo, what the fuck. So then
- 20:35Speaker 2: at the time I had a hospital check as my
- 20:37Speaker 2: other chair was being fixed or whatever, he literally took me.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I'm strapped to the chair because I was like, I'm leaving.
- 20:43Speaker 2: He took me. He flipped the chair over, so I'm
- 20:45Speaker 2: still in the chair as he flipped it over, and
- 20:47Speaker 2: then he's just he lifted me up by my neck
- 20:50Speaker 2: and he just started punching me in the head. Like
- 20:52Speaker 2: I never understood why cartoons put stars overheads until I
- 20:56Speaker 2: started seeing. I started seeing those stars, and my air
- 21:01Speaker 2: like I just it went bee, like everything just felt
- 21:03Speaker 2: like I felt like I was on death, Like I
- 21:04Speaker 2: feel like I was losing a lot of blood. And
- 21:08Speaker 2: my chair was literally like an accordion. He smashed it.
- 21:12Speaker 2: He stomped on my chair till it wouldn't like it
- 21:15Speaker 2: was compressed, like it wouldn't open back up, so like
- 21:18Speaker 2: the chair was literally like you know how an accordion goes.
- 21:21Speaker 2: The chair was literally smashed together. And I'm my friend Max.
- 21:25Speaker 2: He's a golden glove, so he boxes. He kicked down
- 21:28Speaker 2: the door. He kicked on the door of my friends.
- 21:31Speaker 2: They literally saved my life. And he was like, yo,
- 21:33Speaker 2: he pushed them off me because everybody just let us argue.
- 21:35Speaker 2: They always let us argue, but that day, and Max
- 21:38Speaker 2: is the quietest person, like he's the calmest person even
- 21:40Speaker 2: with him being a his hands are licensed. He can't
- 21:42Speaker 2: go around, you know what I'm saying, just doing stuff.
- 21:44Speaker 2: So he's so chill, Like he's such a chill guy.
- 21:46Speaker 2: He's so calm. He reminds me a wolf is crazy.
- 21:49Speaker 2: And he literally just got him off of me, and
- 21:52Speaker 2: then they carried me to the room. I peed on myself.
- 21:54Speaker 2: He beat the shit out of me so bad, like love.
- 21:57Speaker 2: They ran him out of New York. He's not out
- 21:59Speaker 2: here anymore.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Your friends were already there.
- 22:03Speaker 2: They it was like a trap house. Like the house
- 22:05Speaker 2: was like a swatter house. I think so other people
- 22:08Speaker 2: were in other parts of the house. So they heard
- 22:10Speaker 2: it and they kicked down.
- 22:12Speaker 3: They got a goddamn book, Yo, you need.
- 22:14Speaker 2: To Yeah, And I was trapped in his house and
- 22:18Speaker 2: he would tell my mom. He was texting my mother
- 22:20Speaker 2: from his phone like my phone, like, oh, she's at
- 22:22Speaker 2: Ashley's house or whatever like some my mom just thinking
- 22:25Speaker 2: because it's winter break.
- 22:26Speaker 3: So if nobody really came in and he would have killed.
- 22:27Speaker 2: You, I don't know, I could have just from my
- 22:31Speaker 2: head was literally and it's crazy, you know, God is
- 22:33Speaker 2: so good. I've never never I never had a mark
- 22:35Speaker 2: on my face. He was punching me so hard. But
- 22:38Speaker 2: it was like he was punching me in my head.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Yeah, but for him to text your mother like you
- 22:42Speaker 3: ask somebody else.
- 22:44Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing. I don't. I
- 22:46Speaker 2: don't even think he had the courage to kill me.
- 22:48Speaker 2: I just think he was like that. I just think.
- 22:52Speaker 2: But that's how sometimes it happens, because these men don't
- 22:54Speaker 2: intend on killing you, but they just beat you so
- 22:56Speaker 2: hard that you can die. So as he's beating me
- 22:59Speaker 2: in my head, just literally punching me in my head,
- 23:01Speaker 2: punching me in my head, say if that thing would
- 23:03Speaker 2: a stab actually punctured my chest, do you know what
- 23:05Speaker 2: I'm saying?
- 23:06Speaker 1: I personally, I just felt like I didn't mean to
- 23:10Speaker 1: kill her.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Sometimes I know my strength.
- 23:14Speaker 1: So if I'm just one of those niggas that just
- 23:16Speaker 1: putting my hands on women, I know it.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Me punching this woman one time in her face, you.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Can killed someone and that's what people don't understand, and
- 23:24Speaker 2: possibly kill her people don't understand. So imagine being in
- 23:27Speaker 2: a wheelchair and I literally cannot and this person has
- 23:30Speaker 2: steps from getting shot. My friend had came because his mother,
- 23:34Speaker 2: this is my son's godfather. I left him to death.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Shout out to Lille. He had came because I had
- 23:38Speaker 2: no wheelchair. So think about how I'm getting home. I
- 23:41Speaker 2: can't call my parents. If I call my parents, my
- 23:43Speaker 2: dad is going to jail. You know what I'm saying.
- 23:45Speaker 2: I can't tell my dad no story like this. Then
- 23:46Speaker 2: I'm getting my ass with a messing with a grown
- 23:48Speaker 2: ass man. I can't tell my mother this. My mother's
- 23:50Speaker 2: going to jail. So I'm just thinking about how to
- 23:52Speaker 2: protect myself, how to protect my parents, how to get
- 23:54Speaker 2: myself off this situation. Because I got niggas that's gonna
- 23:56Speaker 2: come outside for me. I got niggas that would have
- 23:58Speaker 2: I got niggas that would have crashed out and did
- 24:00Speaker 2: what they different. These are people people that I know
- 24:02Speaker 2: don't even know these stories. Do you know what I'm saying,
- 24:05Speaker 2: my bro, Yeah, you're stupid, My bro? What I told him?
- 24:12Speaker 2: I told him, I was like, hey, bring your mother's
- 24:14Speaker 2: wheelchair whatever, because it's mother, God rest her soul. She's
- 24:17Speaker 2: in a wheelchair. To tell, I said, bring your mother's wheelchair, come,
- 24:19Speaker 2: you know, get me or whatever. It's a blizzard outside
- 24:23Speaker 2: because it's winter break. This nigga came, no wheelchair. Just
- 24:26Speaker 2: was like, I'm carrying you to the cab. I'm like, bro,
- 24:28Speaker 2: you cannot carry like you not like you big, but
- 24:31Speaker 2: it's not like I'm heavy. Then you know the two
- 24:33Speaker 2: dollar cabs, you got to catch that on the boulevard.
- 24:35Speaker 2: I don't you got two dollar cabs in Brooklyn, So yeah,
- 24:38Speaker 2: you gotta catch them just on the boulevard. And we
- 24:39Speaker 2: was like not too far from the bulevard, but it's
- 24:41Speaker 2: a blizzard trying to carry so they literally held me
- 24:44Speaker 2: on one side each with the scrunched up wheelchair and
- 24:47Speaker 2: just pushed me. And we had to get on the
- 24:49Speaker 2: bus or whatever because my chair couldn't even fit into
- 24:51Speaker 2: a car the way he's fronted up. And then we
- 24:53Speaker 2: got in the bus. We got home. My mom like,
- 24:56Speaker 2: what happened to you wheelchair? I was like, it got
- 24:57Speaker 2: rolled over by a car. She was like, you show
- 25:00Speaker 2: and I just like when I seen my mother, I
- 25:02Speaker 2: was just so happy. I just felt safe because I
- 25:06Speaker 2: didn't feel safe for that whole time. And it's like,
- 25:10Speaker 2: you don't know if you're gonna make it home. You
- 25:12Speaker 2: don't know what this person, what it did to you,
- 25:15Speaker 2: And then you start to blame yourself and Unfortunately, that
- 25:18Speaker 2: was not my last situation with dev but that was
- 25:21Speaker 2: my worst, thank God. And I've had my wheelchair broken
- 25:25Speaker 2: again by my son's father. I'm not making an excuses
- 25:29Speaker 2: for him anymore. He threatened my life a lot of
- 25:32Speaker 2: times just because of his anger. He is a cheater.
- 25:35Speaker 2: He was an abuser, and a lot of people don't
- 25:37Speaker 2: seem Deamon as abused. And that's why I say, ladies,
- 25:39Speaker 2: be careful with putting your hands on people, because I
- 25:41Speaker 2: put my hands a lot on him a lot of
- 25:43Speaker 2: times before he ever swung on me or anything like that.
- 25:46Speaker 2: I've hit him a lot of times, just playfully being
- 25:48Speaker 2: angry or being mad. I have, and he literally, and
- 25:54Speaker 2: especially with a situation like me and it, you can
- 25:56Speaker 2: literally walk away. You could literally walk away from me.
- 26:00Speaker 2: He slammed my wheelchair across the highway and broke so
- 26:04Speaker 2: much so that this is the same chair and it's
- 26:05Speaker 2: still crooked. You can see the frame is crooked, like
- 26:08Speaker 2: if you said, if you see my leg up a
- 26:11Speaker 2: little bit. He punched me. He's hit me in front
- 26:13Speaker 2: of my son, and my son literally had to say mommy,
- 26:17Speaker 2: get away from my mommy, like he told him. He said,
- 26:20Speaker 2: get out just leave, get out, get away. And this
- 26:21Speaker 2: is two years old. My son did that and that's
- 26:23Speaker 2: when I knew. I was like, we can't be together.
- 26:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard a lot of the stories about y'all.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Yeah, Shawn done broke it up. He
- 26:30Speaker 2: done took my wig through without the car. Sean had
- 26:32Speaker 2: to go pick my wig.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Up out the car.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Really, it is right, because like when you text this
- 26:36Speaker 1: whole DV thing, I said, this is the route she
- 26:37Speaker 1: wanted to go. Last week, me and Sean we always talking.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Sean was like out there one time when he was
- 26:43Speaker 1: hitting on her. He said, I feel fucked up. I
- 26:46Speaker 1: should have spanked them right then and there.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like that that could be.
- 26:51Speaker 2: He looked at Sean. What I would say is because
- 26:54Speaker 2: he sent me in front of other friends. And I've
- 26:56Speaker 2: had his other friends be like, well this is y'all,
- 26:58Speaker 2: you know, But Sean was the only one to really
- 27:00Speaker 2: look uncomfortable. Yeah, he was truly, like you could see
- 27:03Speaker 2: he was just disgusted by you. And he's like, yo,
- 27:06Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing? And he's
- 27:08Speaker 2: just in the back of the car with the baby
- 27:10Speaker 2: and stuff, and he he threw my wig out the
- 27:14Speaker 2: car and then Sean went and got the wig out
- 27:16Speaker 2: the car and stuff like that, and I literally, I
- 27:19Speaker 2: literally saved this person's image. But then I started getting
- 27:22Speaker 2: threats again, telling me I'm going to die and stuff
- 27:25Speaker 2: like that. Just last weekend because of whatever. Right before
- 27:29Speaker 2: I broke my leg, he was in my house choking
- 27:31Speaker 2: me to death. And that's why I feel like God
- 27:33Speaker 2: made me bring I feel like God made me break
- 27:36Speaker 2: my leg because if not, I probably would have never
- 27:38Speaker 2: left him alone that soon. Because when I broke my leg,
- 27:41Speaker 2: he wasn't there for me, and it made me see like, no,
- 27:43Speaker 2: you really can't You ever pray to God to like,
- 27:46Speaker 2: God show me a sign, and then it's like to
- 27:48Speaker 2: prayer removal. You ask God to you ask God to
- 27:51Speaker 2: remove people that aren't for you, and you start losing
- 27:54Speaker 2: the people you love and it's like nothing you can
- 27:55Speaker 2: do can make this work with this person. And I'm
- 27:58Speaker 2: not gonna act like he just put his hands on
- 27:59Speaker 2: me every day for no reason. We've had nasty fights.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I put my hands on him. I do take accountability
- 28:04Speaker 2: in that, but I also know that again, exactly could
- 28:08Speaker 2: walk away exactly because a different and I see podcasts
- 28:12Speaker 2: now so will get his ass wet for off y'all.
- 28:16Speaker 2: But no, not even saying that because I don't even
- 28:19Speaker 2: want to promote that, because I don't even know.
- 28:21Speaker 1: It's not promoting. It's like, as men, you got to
- 28:23Speaker 1: stop parting their hands on women. Yeah, is like, and
- 28:26Speaker 1: it's not just me.
- 28:27Speaker 2: It's not just me. He's put his hands on He's
- 28:28Speaker 2: put his hands on other girls too, And it's like
- 28:31Speaker 2: people literally will tell you, oh, ladies, be careful. You
- 28:34Speaker 2: the first go that made me do this. You're the
- 28:35Speaker 2: only go that made me do this. This is because I
- 28:37Speaker 2: love you, that's not that's not love. Don't make no
- 28:39Speaker 2: nigga want to hurt you real love. Oh that bitch
- 28:42Speaker 2: just be like I see bitches, be like, oh can
- 28:43Speaker 2: I pussy's so good? He hit me, That's why he
- 28:45Speaker 2: beat me up. No, get you want to take care.
- 28:50Speaker 2: But he's going to make sure that thing is sure.
- 28:52Speaker 2: He gonna make sure it's for us. I'm a prim
- 28:54Speaker 2: He's not gonna sit there and want to hurt you
- 28:56Speaker 2: or harm you in that way. So at the end
- 28:58Speaker 2: of the day, ladies, protect your sell from those type
- 29:00Speaker 2: of people. Men. If you see a woman has those
- 29:03Speaker 2: qualities and she likes to get handy and stuff like that.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Let her know your boundaries, let her know you can't
- 29:07Speaker 2: tell it.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Wh would you walk away?
- 29:09Speaker 2: And you walk away?
- 29:10Speaker 3: Walk away? It ain't it ain't never worth it, walk
- 29:12Speaker 3: away and.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Both. I have a question. Have you ever witnessed domestic violence?
- 29:19Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple a couple of times.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Have you ever intervened when you seen it? So can
- 29:25Speaker 2: I hear by the time you're intervened.
- 29:27Speaker 4: Yeah. One time I was at my girlfriend's family's house
- 29:34Speaker 4: live right down the street from where I was staying,
- 29:36Speaker 4: and her older brother lived with her. Her older brother
- 29:41Speaker 4: and her and his girlfriend. They had just came from California.
- 29:44Speaker 4: They was in transition, kind of fun they footing in Texas.
- 29:49Speaker 4: So they stayed in the house too. They stayed in
- 29:50Speaker 4: the room, and there was always cool, you know, they
- 29:53Speaker 4: was always cool. They was always funny. He was mad cool.
- 29:56Speaker 4: I thought he was cool. And then one day her
- 30:00Speaker 4: name was Briann, and me and Brianna, and we was chilling,
- 30:02Speaker 4: and then I heard her I think her name was,
- 30:06Speaker 4: I don't remember her name. I think it was like
- 30:07Speaker 4: Emily or something like that. I heard her just kind
- 30:10Speaker 4: of making a sound in the other room. You know,
- 30:11Speaker 4: like she was in distressed. Unnatural, Yeah, just it was
- 30:14Speaker 4: sounding she was in distress, and naturally, like when you
- 30:16Speaker 4: were man like you just when you hear certain things,
- 30:19Speaker 4: when you feel certain things have you feel a natural
- 30:22Speaker 4: inclination to inquire about to do something about it. So
- 30:25Speaker 4: I went into the room, real man, Yeah, I went
- 30:28Speaker 4: into the room and this And let me just tell you,
- 30:30Speaker 4: I'm a young boy, you know what I mean. I'm
- 30:31Speaker 4: like a teenager probably like maybe like sixteen at best.
- 30:35Speaker 4: This nigga's like absolutely almost in his thirties, you know
- 30:38Speaker 4: what I mean, these grown people. And I went into
- 30:42Speaker 4: the room and I just seen him on top of her,
- 30:44Speaker 4: and she was just like begging him, like please let
- 30:46Speaker 4: me go, Please let me go. She was like, please
- 30:48Speaker 4: let me go. And he's so big over her. And
- 30:50Speaker 4: so I just went into the room and I just
- 30:52Speaker 4: I grabbed him by his realistically, he let me take
- 30:55Speaker 4: him down because I could. I really couldn't do nothing
- 30:57Speaker 4: about it, but I think just the fact that somebody else,
- 31:02Speaker 4: you know me, I put my arms around his neck
- 31:04Speaker 4: and I just pulled him back. And then she got
- 31:05Speaker 4: out the house, She grabbed the kids, she left, and then.
- 31:10Speaker 3: It was crazy like me and him.
- 31:11Speaker 4: We just sat there and talked after that, you know
- 31:12Speaker 4: what I mean, which was crazy, But yeah, that was
- 31:14Speaker 4: That was a moment when I intervened. And there's been
- 31:18Speaker 4: a cop I think there was another moment. I can't
- 31:20Speaker 4: really remember, But what I do remember is the moments
- 31:22Speaker 4: when I didn't.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Intervene though, and why didn't you intervene?
- 31:26Speaker 4: I didn't intervene because sometimes in life and everybody grow
- 31:30Speaker 4: up in different kind of ways, but the way I
- 31:33Speaker 4: grew up, the type of stuff I experienced growing up,
- 31:37Speaker 4: you know, you kind of understand there's a duality in life,
- 31:39Speaker 4: you know, and sometimes you see stuff and you understand
- 31:43Speaker 4: it's a part of a nature of things that just
- 31:47Speaker 4: you're not gonna change just because you implement, you put
- 31:49Speaker 4: yourself in the situation. Yeah, And it's certain street life
- 31:54Speaker 4: is it's a certain vibration that a certain kind of
- 31:57Speaker 4: people just live inside. You understand that, like, if I
- 31:59Speaker 4: put myself in this situation, it might not be worth me.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Not it's not even gonna change it. And then on
- 32:06Speaker 2: top of that, you're to jump you as as men too,
- 32:09Speaker 2: they have men getting involved men or women getting involved
- 32:12Speaker 2: in somebody else's relationship that is going through domestic violence.
- 32:15Speaker 2: A lot of people tend to kill people that get
- 32:18Speaker 2: involved in what they have going on because they know
- 32:20Speaker 2: that the person that their with is going to tolerate this.
- 32:23Speaker 2: So now there's somebody trying to stop what they tolerate.
- 32:25Speaker 2: This is a lot of people's to sick people. Beating
- 32:27Speaker 2: on people is their therapy. So now it's like you're
- 32:30Speaker 2: taken away from Now it's like you're taken away from
- 32:32Speaker 2: their therapy. You're taken away from what they're able to do.
- 32:34Speaker 2: So now you're trying to get involved. So now they'll
- 32:36Speaker 2: kill you. They if you try to help someone going
- 32:39Speaker 2: through domestic violence, somebody will try to hit you. If
- 32:42Speaker 2: he hits the person, he says he loves. What makes
- 32:45Speaker 2: you think that he won't hit you or vice versa,
- 32:48Speaker 2: save if it's a woman.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Recipes to my son Desmond little brother. He intervened in
- 32:54Speaker 1: a domestic violence situation and he was killed in Albany
- 32:58Speaker 1: and got shot nine times.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Mmm. Guy the god like he was beating on the lady.
- 33:04Speaker 2: He told him, child, you talking about at that party
- 33:08Speaker 2: that was upstate.
- 33:10Speaker 1: At the party, he told him to chill. The guy
- 33:12Speaker 1: told him, like you want to get it on. He like,
- 33:15Speaker 1: whatever you're wanna do win in the building to fight
- 33:18Speaker 1: the project.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Oh I heard about that. That's not seeing that's man brother,
- 33:25Speaker 2: that's my man's friend.
- 33:26Speaker 3: And I understand it was it was different.
- 33:28Speaker 1: You feel me And I called him her and he
- 33:30Speaker 1: was just broken, like he should have mind his business.
- 33:34Speaker 3: I said, it's easy to say to mind your business,
- 33:36Speaker 3: bro like.
- 33:37Speaker 2: But the people that's really grown up. There's people that
- 33:40Speaker 2: seen their mothers get abusing, will never want another man
- 33:43Speaker 2: to touch another woman. There's people that didn't see their
- 33:45Speaker 2: mother's get abusing and just love their mother so much,
- 33:47Speaker 2: they will have so much. If you love your mother enough,
- 33:49Speaker 2: you gotta respect for a woman period. You understand what
- 33:51Speaker 2: I'm saying, So you just don't even want to see
- 33:53Speaker 2: it go down. You look at men that do do
- 33:55Speaker 2: that as weak, and it's unfortunate that somebody had to
- 33:58Speaker 2: lose their life because they got involved in trying to
- 34:00Speaker 2: help someone else, when a real man would have said,
- 34:02Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not even gonna it's not even worthing.
- 34:04Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go this far. But at the same time,
- 34:07Speaker 2: a real man ain't gonna do that to even be
- 34:09Speaker 2: beating on a woman outside, you really don't give a fuck.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Those are people that don't care about jail crashing out.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Nothing in these the niggas that go to jail and
- 34:16Speaker 2: get beat on and treated like bitches and get beat
- 34:18Speaker 2: the bitch on. And half of these niggas that beat
- 34:19Speaker 2: on women is DL. If you hate a woman that bad,
- 34:22Speaker 2: you feel like you got to put your hands on
- 34:23Speaker 2: her for no reason. You yeah, you hate women, you
- 34:27Speaker 2: hate yourself. You probably gotta touch just a kid, and
- 34:29Speaker 2: now you want to touch a woman. And that's respectfully
- 34:31Speaker 2: the truth.
- 34:32Speaker 3: I've been in a couple of situations when I've seen
- 34:34Speaker 3: different shit.
- 34:34Speaker 2: And today we have something different.
- 34:38Speaker 3: So I actually got today.
- 34:39Speaker 2: I asked a bunch of girls to share this story
- 34:41Speaker 2: about domestic.
- 34:42Speaker 3: But hold on, before you even get a time. Have
- 34:43Speaker 3: you ever seen somebody getting as whip and you interfe it?
- 34:46Speaker 1: Not to say it, I get your ass with, but
- 34:47Speaker 1: you've seen somebody being abusing you interfere?
- 34:50Speaker 2: Yes, I have. I can't really say abuse. My parents
- 34:54Speaker 2: they were young when they got together, so they would
- 34:56Speaker 2: be going out towards each other, and I remember one
- 35:00Speaker 2: day my mom was just up in the air and
- 35:06Speaker 2: I took an umbrella, and I just screamed at my
- 35:09Speaker 2: dad and I was like, put my mommy down, you
- 35:12Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like I was like put my
- 35:13Speaker 2: mommy down, like I'll kill you. Like I was just
- 35:15Speaker 2: so angry. I remember the umbrella and everything. Certain images
- 35:18Speaker 2: just never leave your head. Then I remember one day
- 35:20Speaker 2: going into the kitchen, my mom had a knife to
- 35:22Speaker 2: my dad and he was like, IF's dad me, I'm
- 35:24Speaker 2: a knockout, And it was just like Jesus Christ. So
- 35:27Speaker 2: I've seen it firsthand from just being so young, you
- 35:30Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then I've had that. Yeah,
- 35:33Speaker 2: I've witnessed it, and I've had friends get abused. I've
- 35:38Speaker 2: had oh child, A lot of people that I know
- 35:43Speaker 2: get abused, and it's just unfortunate. But this is a
- 35:47Speaker 2: story that I would share with me, my cousin. This
- 35:50Speaker 2: is my older cousin. So she wrote, and she said,
- 35:52Speaker 2: imagine being seventeen, eighteen years old in a relationship with
- 35:56Speaker 2: a man ten years older and pregnant. Back then, read
- 35:59Speaker 2: flot weren't that common, at least not to me. I
- 36:03Speaker 2: met this man who looked nothing like his age and
- 36:05Speaker 2: lied saying he was nineteen. I was sixteen at the
- 36:08Speaker 2: time first red flag him praying on a kid. I
- 36:12Speaker 2: think back, like, was he really that dumb? Or was
- 36:14Speaker 2: I just that smart?
- 36:15Speaker 3: Lol?
- 36:16Speaker 2: Anyway, everything starts out good, long conversations, gifts outings. I
- 36:21Speaker 2: don't know. I think back. I remember little conversations where
- 36:24Speaker 2: I where I questioned his age. Damn, this man really
- 36:27Speaker 2: was a predator. Fast forward, I get pregnant by him.
- 36:30Speaker 2: He's all excited. I'd lieing if I said, I'd be
- 36:33Speaker 2: lying if I said I wasn't. But I wasn't supposed
- 36:35Speaker 2: to be. After all, I was sixteen and pregnant. But
- 36:38Speaker 2: by what I found out was a man to be
- 36:40Speaker 2: twenty six years old. This man is ten years older
- 36:43Speaker 2: than me. After announcing to him I was pregnant, he
- 36:46Speaker 2: was cool for about three to four months. Then the
- 36:49Speaker 2: ugly truth unfolded. The first incident, one of my close
- 36:53Speaker 2: friends stopped by my house and my baby daddy, who
- 36:56Speaker 2: was the predator. My baby daddy was there. Of course,
- 37:00Speaker 2: the close friend was a male. He didn't like that.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I remember seeing this look in his eyes as we argue.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Before I knew it, I was down a flight of
- 37:08Speaker 2: basement stairs and being shaken in chastised. The next day,
- 37:11Speaker 2: he showed up with brand new sneakers and a code
- 37:13Speaker 2: to match. I had no idea what I was in for.
- 37:18Speaker 2: He didn't put his hands on me again until after
- 37:20Speaker 2: my son was born. Imagine being seventeen, a new mom,
- 37:23Speaker 2: and being abused. I let this man talk me into
- 37:26Speaker 2: leaving home so that my son and I could be
- 37:27Speaker 2: with him. Him taking care of his family is what
- 37:30Speaker 2: he called it. He did that and made the outside
- 37:33Speaker 2: my family believe we was good because he took care
- 37:36Speaker 2: of me and his son, not knowing what I was
- 37:38Speaker 2: going through. Constant abuse, black eyes, busted lips. Final lap,
- 37:42Speaker 2: at least I thought it was when he accused me
- 37:44Speaker 2: of going to school only to meet a guy. I
- 37:46Speaker 2: packed and left, and the man played nice like he
- 37:49Speaker 2: was accepting it was over asking for our son for
- 37:51Speaker 2: the weekend, only to keep him for almost a month
- 37:54Speaker 2: as an attempt for me to come back. That's when
- 37:56Speaker 2: I learned if there's no documented custody papers, whoever as
- 38:00Speaker 2: the kid is with, who they can stay with as
- 38:02Speaker 2: long as they want. Because I called the cops to
- 38:04Speaker 2: escort me to his house to get my son. After
- 38:07Speaker 2: a month, I gave in and went back. It probably
- 38:09Speaker 2: wasn't even a full month before I was back to
- 38:11Speaker 2: looking like a box for a living. I box for
- 38:15Speaker 2: a living. I left again with my son, ignoring all
- 38:17Speaker 2: calls in contact. Fast forward about two months now, I'm
- 38:21Speaker 2: being stalked. I go out, come back. The family is
- 38:25Speaker 2: saying he's been calling whatever, nothing new. This man must
- 38:29Speaker 2: have stalked out near my house because he waited for
- 38:31Speaker 2: my stepdad and mom to leave for work. Rings the bell.
- 38:34Speaker 2: My little cousin answers, not knowing any better. All he
- 38:37Speaker 2: knows is that it's my son's father. He's not a stranger.
- 38:40Speaker 2: He's yelling back, saying he's at the door. He's going
- 38:43Speaker 2: to open it. Before my cousin and I could say no, don't,
- 38:46Speaker 2: he was in the door, pounding on me right there
- 38:48Speaker 2: at the door, the front door, blood everywhere. He flees.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I'm left laying there, blood everywhere, two black eyes, a
- 38:56Speaker 2: fractured bone in my nose, and stitches in the bottom
- 38:59Speaker 2: of my lip. When it was said and done, that
- 39:00Speaker 2: was still the worst day till today. I can still
- 39:03Speaker 2: see that scene in my head. It's funny people ask
- 39:06Speaker 2: me how I was ever able to speak or see
- 39:08Speaker 2: him again. I learned to forgive and understand. This man
- 39:11Speaker 2: witness domestic abuse himself, so what else will be expected.
- 39:15Speaker 2: It's funny whenever he and I speak, I have flashbacks
- 39:18Speaker 2: of all the times of abuse, but push it back
- 39:20Speaker 2: to be back to the back of my mind. I
- 39:23Speaker 2: really want to have that uncomfortable conversation with him, like
- 39:26Speaker 2: why and now that you have daughters of your own,
- 39:28Speaker 2: do you wonder will carm or hit you? And if
- 39:31Speaker 2: your daughters end up with a man who abuses her,
- 39:33Speaker 2: do you or have you ever abused your wife? Why
- 39:36Speaker 2: did you do it to me? I honestly was just
- 39:38Speaker 2: a kid. Do you think or believe that you were
- 39:41Speaker 2: a predator?
- 39:42Speaker 3: He's a fucking predator? Who she could have been? Queens?
- 39:46Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 39:46Speaker 3: Why like all the predators out there.
- 39:48Speaker 2: In Queens shut the fuck up.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Well if that's the second one aged seven, yeah.
- 39:56Speaker 2: He's definitely a predator. This is someone in my family
- 39:59Speaker 2: who share this. I was a kid when I've seen
- 40:02Speaker 2: her being like you know, when you're a kid, you
- 40:04Speaker 2: don't really understand it, but it just I remember him
- 40:07Speaker 2: looking like Kelly, like with the wife beaters, you know,
- 40:10Speaker 2: woke cut up with the braids and stuff, and it's
- 40:12Speaker 2: just she just looked asad. She always just looked this
- 40:15Speaker 2: so sad. And it was like, now that I'm older,
- 40:17Speaker 2: I realized he was breaking my cousin not physically, not
- 40:20Speaker 2: just physically, but mentality as well. And I'm glad she's
- 40:23Speaker 2: doing if they.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Break you mentally.
- 40:25Speaker 4: That's the crazy thing about relationships. Like sometimes you see
- 40:28Speaker 4: a couple and you can tell they're not really doing
- 40:30Speaker 4: their best, they're not really vibrating that, they don't look
- 40:33Speaker 4: that good, you know, I mean they energy, and you
- 40:36Speaker 4: have no idea, like it'd be some shit behind them.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Then they don't understand that somebody not looking their best,
- 40:41Speaker 4: it'd be a lot behind that.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Sometimes and then people will blame the victim a lot
- 40:44Speaker 2: of the times, like oh, why don't you leave? Why
- 40:46Speaker 2: don't you that?
- 40:46Speaker 3: Because always blame.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Sometimes these men will kill you just for leaving. Not
- 40:51Speaker 2: only that, they'll it's Stockholm syndrome, where you relate to
- 40:55Speaker 2: your abuser because it feels safe, it feels like home,
- 40:57Speaker 2: that's what you're used to. What else will you do
- 40:59Speaker 2: if that's all you used to us? So you know,
- 41:01Speaker 2: then on top of that, you see how she said,
- 41:03Speaker 2: oh it would be gifts, it would be this they'll cry,
- 41:05Speaker 2: they'll beg, they'll change, they'll see the lady, they'll talk
- 41:07Speaker 2: to the lady. They won't ever do it again. They
- 41:09Speaker 2: blame you. They say they're going to kill themselves if
- 41:12Speaker 2: you know you leave them. All this type of stuff.
- 41:14Speaker 2: They're guilt tripping. So a lot of people aren't strong enough,
- 41:16Speaker 2: but there's always that lastra And like I said, for me,
- 41:19Speaker 2: mine was I literally broke my leg the week after
- 41:23Speaker 2: because it was like God was like girl, no, especially
- 41:26Speaker 2: being in my own apartment, just being scared, and I
- 41:28Speaker 2: remember being held there and I'm just like my son,
- 41:31Speaker 2: That's all I kept saying, Like I said my son's
- 41:33Speaker 2: names as he's choking me. I was literally like poopy,
- 41:36Speaker 2: That's the only thing I could think about, because I'm like,
- 41:37Speaker 2: if I die right now, my kid get what I'm saying,
- 41:41Speaker 2: what else do I have from this? And then my
- 41:43Speaker 2: kid'll just be so broken and he'll never trust anybody
- 41:46Speaker 2: just because you know what I mean. So it's just
- 41:48Speaker 2: like I was just like and then I just talked
- 41:50Speaker 2: to God, and God literally got me about that situation
- 41:54Speaker 2: that moment, And even if it's just once or twice,
- 41:55Speaker 2: cause like I said, it wasn't a constant thing. It
- 41:57Speaker 2: was once in the blue when he wore put it on.
- 41:59Speaker 2: Not too many, but once it's more than enough. You
- 42:02Speaker 2: don't have to stay. If you feel like there's something
- 42:05Speaker 2: you'll be missing with it, just realize you're not missing
- 42:08Speaker 2: your life. You still have your life. That's the only
- 42:10Speaker 2: thing that you need. You can make other memories with
- 42:12Speaker 2: somebody else that won't ever do that to you.
- 42:14Speaker 3: And there's different ways of domestic.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Don't got to be physically putting your hands like he
- 42:17Speaker 1: could mentally be beating you.
- 42:19Speaker 2: And then that made me want to put my hands
- 42:21Speaker 2: on people, just from being abused from young. It made
- 42:24Speaker 2: me start hitting men. And then I get with guys.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I remember my first time with my fiance now and
- 42:29Speaker 2: he's like, oh, that's how you like. I was like,
- 42:32Speaker 2: I'll slip shot out you and he was like, that's
- 42:33Speaker 2: how you get your It's like he just looked it
- 42:35Speaker 2: so disgusted. You know what I'm saying. And this is
- 42:37Speaker 2: a man that has nothing but respect for his mother.
- 42:39Speaker 2: And just so when men get loud, do you sometimes
- 42:43Speaker 2: I getah? Yeah, sometimes I mostly shut down, Like if
- 42:47Speaker 2: a man is yelling at me or talking down to me.
- 42:49Speaker 2: I shut down. And it's crazy because I have a father,
- 42:52Speaker 2: and if my father knew about any ship, I pray
- 42:54Speaker 2: don't watch this episode. But it's he wouldn't be happy
- 42:58Speaker 2: about it.
- 42:59Speaker 3: They had that who got tied.
- 43:01Speaker 2: Dad, And like I said, my dad wasn't one of
- 43:06Speaker 2: those unprovoked people. He was a provoked person. So let
- 43:09Speaker 2: me be clear about that. I don't want to make
- 43:11Speaker 2: it seem like he was just outsideby and my mom,
- 43:12Speaker 2: my mom, my mom, crazy. Two capricorns one house going
- 43:16Speaker 2: at it. They didn't did some ship to each other,
- 43:20Speaker 2: two capricorns in the house. That ship was like diapolical.
- 43:23Speaker 1: My god parents. I've seen them go head to head
- 43:27Speaker 1: like the Titans.
- 43:28Speaker 2: Yeah, fighting the night.
- 43:30Speaker 3: They holding each.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Other like the old school back then, back in the days,
- 43:34Speaker 2: that's what was people was used to. It was like
- 43:36Speaker 2: to sit there and you beat the shit out of
- 43:37Speaker 2: each other, then go up. Used to go these days.
- 43:41Speaker 1: But then as I seen, I said, damn, I want
- 43:43Speaker 1: that type of love, like minus to fight and all that.
- 43:46Speaker 1: But they really loved each other because like I didn't
- 43:49Speaker 1: seen my my my godfatherld like lose his legs and
- 43:53Speaker 1: lose toes and she cared like they was dead, they
- 43:56Speaker 1: was locked in.
- 43:57Speaker 2: But that's also toxicity.
- 43:58Speaker 1: It like, yeah, so we look past the fighting and
- 44:00Speaker 1: all you're like, damn, like, this is what it is.
- 44:02Speaker 3: And then when he left, she went right behind the
- 44:05Speaker 3: move a broken heart.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Listen. So it's like, at the end of the day,
- 44:08Speaker 2: oh you can that old school love is different. But
- 44:11Speaker 2: that's also what they were conditioned to, you know what
- 44:13Speaker 2: I'm saying. They weren't too far from slavery. At the
- 44:15Speaker 2: end of the day. They people's getting asked if they're saying, mass,
- 44:18Speaker 2: I love you at the end of the day, that
- 44:19Speaker 2: shit ain't right. You can have a couple of you
- 44:22Speaker 2: can have a couple of arguments with your partner. You
- 44:23Speaker 2: could disagree with your partner. Y'all pop, y'all shit to
- 44:25Speaker 2: each other, as long as y'all not getting physical.
- 44:27Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Man, you got to do
- 44:28Speaker 1: the work. You can't just take an argument then you
- 44:31Speaker 1: want to just put your hands on somebody.
- 44:32Speaker 3: You gotta do the work.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I had to do the work because me and my
- 44:36Speaker 1: big I couldn't argue with somebody without put my hands
- 44:38Speaker 1: on them.
- 44:38Speaker 2: But people that people that are not trying to play
- 44:40Speaker 2: you or nothing like that, because you obviously were going
- 44:42Speaker 2: through a different type of trauma that nobody can understand different.
- 44:45Speaker 2: But a lot of people that do put their hands
- 44:46Speaker 2: on people in the argument is because they're not that intellectual,
- 44:49Speaker 2: so they have to get physical. Because I realized I
- 44:51Speaker 2: was smarter than the people that I was with that
- 44:53Speaker 2: was putting their hands on me. So my mouth is crazy.
- 44:55Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I was saying my shit, but
- 44:57Speaker 2: that should never give you no reason to hit me
- 44:58Speaker 2: just because I'm smart and I know my rebuttals is crazy.
- 45:01Speaker 2: I'm coming at you quick like light man, like you're
- 45:03Speaker 2: gonna hear this ship. You know what I'm saying, Like
- 45:05Speaker 2: this is me.
- 45:07Speaker 3: But we argue. Last time we argued, she put a
- 45:10Speaker 3: hand in my face.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Youres that, you pussy?
- 45:13Speaker 1: I call a console you this, that, and the third
- 45:15Speaker 1: I said, give me a hug. You all right, You'll
- 45:16Speaker 1: be all right, and she crying, I'm hugging her. It's
- 45:18Speaker 1: all Saiding that, she started laughing. I'm like, yeah, right now,
- 45:21Speaker 1: I can't stand you. I'm all right, but I will
- 45:23Speaker 1: never put my hands on you again. I'm not scareding
- 45:26Speaker 1: no police, but I would never.
- 45:29Speaker 3: Self down. I would not disappoint myself for my son.
- 45:33Speaker 1: I will not disappoint myself that that I let you
- 45:35Speaker 1: take me to that point that I had to put
- 45:37Speaker 1: my hands.
- 45:37Speaker 2: And that's why to get up the situation, because I
- 45:39Speaker 2: can't allow my son to think that that's okay to
- 45:41Speaker 2: see no woman getting beat on. He's seen it once
- 45:43Speaker 2: and that was enough for me. You're not about to
- 45:44Speaker 2: see this. You're not about to think that's okay. You're
- 45:46Speaker 2: not about to think you're gonna be doing that to
- 45:48Speaker 2: someone else, even if my son. Because I'm in a chair.
- 45:50Speaker 2: I tell my son all the time, I love Harper,
- 45:52Speaker 2: but I kill him dead for I let him beat me.
- 45:55Speaker 2: I kill him Dad. He'd be like what he he
- 45:57Speaker 2: even flinched. Jump, fuck nigga, what I brung you in here?
- 46:00Speaker 2: I know what parents say when they say I brung
- 46:02Speaker 2: you in here, And I'll take it out because you're
- 46:04Speaker 2: not about to everybody be like, oh, what you going
- 46:06Speaker 2: to do when you get bigger? He gonna respect me
- 46:08Speaker 2: same way he do now. I'm not about to play
- 46:10Speaker 2: with me. Belt to ask.
- 46:12Speaker 1: When a woman raising man, that's a different type of
- 46:15Speaker 1: raise right there? Like me, Like if I got shot,
- 46:17Speaker 1: I could never put myself hands on a woman because
- 46:19Speaker 1: like me hearing you, I see my mother, I see
- 46:22Speaker 1: my sisters, got nieces that look up to.
- 46:25Speaker 3: Me, that don't see no harm in me.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Like I be a moss if I just go around
- 46:29Speaker 1: beating women up, knowing that like when I'm beating you up,
- 46:31Speaker 1: every time I hit you, I'm seeing one of my
- 46:33Speaker 1: loved ones. Oh yeah, So it's like men, you gotta
- 46:35Speaker 1: look at it like that. You can't sit and say
- 46:38Speaker 1: show to your queen and you beating down your queen.
- 46:40Speaker 4: I think you should look at it like this. If
- 46:44Speaker 4: you're prepared to put your hands on a woman, just
- 46:46Speaker 4: be prepared to die right there, because not.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Even talking lines, I'm killing you.
- 46:50Speaker 4: Just literally genuinely be prepared to not live. Just be
- 46:54Speaker 4: prepared for that, you know, because women usually And then
- 46:57Speaker 4: another thing is like, as man, we really got to
- 47:00Speaker 4: give pay our respects to women because even in your scenario,
- 47:04Speaker 4: like you had people around you and you knew what
- 47:07Speaker 4: they was capable of, You knew what they would do
- 47:09Speaker 4: if you just flat out came and told them what
- 47:11Speaker 4: it was, but you still was protecting him in some
- 47:14Speaker 4: type of way, right because maybe you didn't want him
- 47:17Speaker 4: to suffer because you knew what they was gonna do.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want I didn't want him nothing to
- 47:21Speaker 2: happen to him. And I also didn't want nothing my people.
- 47:24Speaker 4: You have to put them in a position too exactly
- 47:26Speaker 4: what they could. But that's you protected because women, women
- 47:29Speaker 4: start wars all the.
- 47:30Speaker 3: Time, all the time.
- 47:30Speaker 2: I never I never even caught the police on anybody.
- 47:33Speaker 2: It's not even paperwork on me from when I got shot.
- 47:35Speaker 2: I'm a real, real thorough.
- 47:37Speaker 3: Bit no longer.
- 47:40Speaker 2: But realistically, though, the only way to help yourself, to
- 47:49Speaker 2: treat someone like a queen or treat someone like a king,
- 47:51Speaker 2: is to see the queen in yourself and to see
- 47:53Speaker 2: the king in yourself. If you don't see that in yourself,
- 47:55Speaker 2: don't date nobody, don't deal with nobody, don't claim to
- 47:57Speaker 2: love nobody, because you don't love yourself. If you don't
- 47:59Speaker 2: look get yourself as if you're in a pedestal, then
- 48:02Speaker 2: how can you see someone else? How can you put
- 48:03Speaker 2: someone else on the pedestal? And that's what happens. People
- 48:05Speaker 2: tend to love people more than they love themselves. And
- 48:07Speaker 2: then this is when oldest jealousy comes in. This is
- 48:10Speaker 2: when oldest insecurity comes in because it's like, how how
- 48:13Speaker 2: can she say she loves me but she's out with
- 48:15Speaker 2: this person, she's with this, but she's sharing herself with
- 48:16Speaker 2: this baby. I'm a star. I gotta share myself with
- 48:20Speaker 2: the world God put God might have took away my
- 48:23Speaker 2: mobility from right now, but he's never took away my mind.
- 48:26Speaker 2: He's never took away my mouth. And this is what
- 48:28Speaker 2: I'm here for, a baby to put myself out in
- 48:29Speaker 2: the world, and a lot of people that I was
- 48:31Speaker 2: with trid to dim my light. But I'm still shying
- 48:33Speaker 2: and can't nothing stime. If a bullet didn't stop me
- 48:35Speaker 2: from shayning, it ain't no niggas gonna do that. And
- 48:37Speaker 2: I always told these niggas, I say, sure, And that's
- 48:39Speaker 2: what I told this nigga too. That's why he hated me.
- 48:41Speaker 2: I said, God already told me an idiot ain't gonna
- 48:43Speaker 2: kill me. I said, the idiot already tried. Idiot already tried,
- 48:47Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen. So that's not what my story
- 48:50Speaker 2: is here for. If anything, we're gonna leave each other
- 48:52Speaker 2: the fuck alone. But that's not what it And I
- 48:54Speaker 2: still don't wish nothing bad on none of those people
- 48:56Speaker 2: that I went through this with, because I believe in growth,
- 48:58Speaker 2: and I believe in healing, and I believe in them
- 49:00Speaker 2: fighting their own demons. But you just can't fight me, baby.
- 49:02Speaker 2: I'm not your demon.
- 49:03Speaker 1: And if you're a king, man, respect your queen. And
- 49:05Speaker 1: if you're a queen, have respect for your king man.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Everything don't got to lead into hands. Arguments sometimes go
- 49:10Speaker 1: in the next room, cool off.
- 49:12Speaker 3: And they come back. Y'all.
- 49:13Speaker 1: I didn't like when you said this like a female
- 49:16Speaker 1: moms could be real crazy, But.
- 49:19Speaker 2: That's that's emotional intellect. If you if you are able
- 49:22Speaker 2: to sit there and say, like, you know what, this
- 49:23Speaker 2: is us right now, this is not gonna be us, but.
- 49:25Speaker 3: Let me just go down.
- 49:26Speaker 1: That's all just going to like, you know you strong,
- 49:29Speaker 1: Let's see how strong your mind is.
- 49:31Speaker 4: And even as a man, even if you've never I've
- 49:33Speaker 4: never put my hands on a woman before, but I've
- 49:35Speaker 4: definitely lost my cool in a way where I knew
- 49:37Speaker 4: it wasn't cool. So even if you never put your
- 49:39Speaker 4: hands on a woman, as a man, you gotta.
- 49:41Speaker 3: Understand I took your dad, you a town, like.
- 49:44Speaker 4: Yeah, as a man, you gotta understand, Like if you
- 49:46Speaker 4: get to the point where you enraged go outside. Rage
- 49:49Speaker 4: is something that will Rage is something that comes upon
- 49:52Speaker 4: him man like it like it's strike like lightning. And
- 49:54Speaker 4: then you're not in control. And there's so many things
- 49:56Speaker 4: that can go wrong. It's not just putting your hands
- 49:58Speaker 4: on a woman. So many things can go wrong. You're
- 50:01Speaker 4: damaging things, you can get end up in jail, you
- 50:03Speaker 4: know what I mean. You lose your integrity, you know.
- 50:05Speaker 1: And when it's all set and done, you feel like
- 50:07Speaker 1: ship once you name like no lie. And to this day,
- 50:11Speaker 1: I feel like ship. Every time I talk to these women,
- 50:14Speaker 1: I feel like ship because it's.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Like you feel like you're just still owe them something.
- 50:19Speaker 1: I say sorry every chance I get because that was
- 50:22Speaker 1: not me and I don't even to a point it
- 50:24Speaker 1: is like we couldn't play fight because it's like you
- 50:28Speaker 1: scared I'm gonna put my hands absolutely so it's like
- 50:31Speaker 1: it ain't even fun no more. It's like I changed,
- 50:33Speaker 1: but I don't know. You might snap out and it's
- 50:37Speaker 1: something different you feel me, So it's like you feel
- 50:40Speaker 1: like ship. Every time I talk to them, I'm like, damn,
- 50:42Speaker 1: I can't believe I really did this. Stuff like cheating
- 50:44Speaker 1: is one thing, but putting your hands on it, it's
- 50:46Speaker 1: a whole different boy game.
- 50:48Speaker 3: You feel like ship to a point, like when you.
- 50:50Speaker 2: Said you like you niggas, like the cheating and beating
- 50:55Speaker 2: on me, It's like, so that's where a lot of
- 50:57Speaker 2: that come from. Because you got caught. Now you want
- 50:59Speaker 2: to beat on me.
- 51:02Speaker 3: Get the help, man, Go go get the help. Brother.
- 51:04Speaker 1: It's like if you got to sit down in front
- 51:06Speaker 1: in front of a therapist to unpack why you're so
- 51:08Speaker 1: angry at women, do the work man.
- 51:10Speaker 3: It's not worth it.
- 51:12Speaker 1: One. It's not worth being in jail because they gonna
- 51:14Speaker 1: whip your ass just from beating on women. Anyway, She's
- 51:18Speaker 1: just not worth it. Sometimes when she talked, let me
- 51:20Speaker 1: get my keys, let me walk out that door, let
- 51:22Speaker 1: me go, let me call somebody.
- 51:23Speaker 3: Yo, you home, let me sit with you for a minute.
- 51:26Speaker 1: And then sometimes when you're out, you don't just text
- 51:29Speaker 1: her like YO, did you calm down?
- 51:30Speaker 3: Yo? Can we talk? Can we talk without screaming?
- 51:32Speaker 1: Can we talk about auguin like be able to If
- 51:35Speaker 1: we love each other, we should be able to sit
- 51:36Speaker 1: down there and listen.
- 51:38Speaker 3: We're not going scream. Let's handle this.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Problem and if it's an ongoing problem. It's okay to separate.
- 51:43Speaker 1: I love you, but this is not it. This is
- 51:46Speaker 1: weighing on my myself. This is weighing on my mental health.
- 51:49Speaker 1: Like this is tearing me down to a point it's
- 51:52Speaker 1: gonna tear you down.
- 51:54Speaker 3: I'm not here to do it. Let's let's go.
- 51:56Speaker 2: And is that your motivational Monday had a separate quote.
- 52:01Speaker 3: I gotta set some separate ship. But what's the frenchifact?
- 52:03Speaker 2: Okay, well the French efacts real quick because I feel
- 52:07Speaker 2: like I said some shit already.
- 52:08Speaker 1: But you spoke now, you took the episode and she
- 52:11Speaker 1: started crying and all that shut up.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Everything, Like damn.
- 52:16Speaker 3: Can you not you my sister now? So it's like, no, no.
- 52:19Speaker 1: Even being disabled, I'm stead of protecting. At the end
- 52:22Speaker 1: of the day, you're you're not doing.
- 52:24Speaker 2: But these are things that you know, you can heal
- 52:26Speaker 2: from things, but when you speak about them, they still
- 52:28Speaker 2: can like you know, you can stop an effect. And
- 52:30Speaker 2: it's crazy because these are things that affect me more
- 52:32Speaker 2: than even getting shot. Because the person that shot me
- 52:35Speaker 2: didn't know me, you know what I'm saying, So when
- 52:37Speaker 2: somebody hurts me that knew me or ever said that
- 52:39Speaker 2: they hurts you, that hurts even more. Like I could
- 52:42Speaker 2: have people strangers bring up the wheelchair, I could laugh.
- 52:45Speaker 2: But if it's somebody I love does it and tries
- 52:47Speaker 2: to play with it, then it's like, oh my god,
- 52:49Speaker 2: that should hurt my feeling, you know what I'm saying.
- 52:51Speaker 1: And before you'll get into the French effect too, Fathers
- 52:53Speaker 1: out there, uncles, brothers, you got little sisters, you got nieces,
- 52:59Speaker 1: you got daughters, like be there, put hands on them.
- 53:02Speaker 1: Don't let your daughter run feeling like she gotta find
- 53:05Speaker 1: love in another man because she's not getting in love
- 53:06Speaker 1: from you.
- 53:07Speaker 3: But.
- 53:09Speaker 2: Because you could. But wait, that's the ship though, because
- 53:11Speaker 2: you can still get that up. Because I'm a daddy's girl.
- 53:13Speaker 2: I got my daddy. I could call him right now.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Well she is on this hand, I call him right now.
- 53:18Speaker 2: It's just sometimes you just do shit. I was just
- 53:21Speaker 2: doing anything and it's a little hot. And I think
- 53:24Speaker 2: it was more so. I think it was more so
- 53:25Speaker 2: because my dad always knew how to be a dad,
- 53:28Speaker 2: but he didn't always know how to be a husband.
- 53:29Speaker 2: So when you don't see the right type of dynamic
- 53:32Speaker 2: in the household with relationships, you know what I'm saying
- 53:34Speaker 2: sometimes that's the problem because, like I said, my dad
- 53:37Speaker 2: loves me very much, and he loved my mother very much,
- 53:39Speaker 2: but he did not.
- 53:41Speaker 1: Plus they was young, they was figuring it was figuring
- 53:43Speaker 1: it out like me, I called my niece, I called
- 53:45Speaker 1: my daughter. I'm like, y'all, I love y'all just because
- 53:47Speaker 1: like birthdays and shit, I buy y'all. Just so y'all
- 53:50Speaker 1: don't feel like when.
- 53:51Speaker 3: A man do it like he giving.
- 53:53Speaker 1: You a reward, Like you're not gonna beat my niece
- 53:56Speaker 1: ass and give her no sneakers or no colt. Nah,
- 53:58Speaker 1: My my uncle did that, my grandfather did that, my
- 54:00Speaker 1: father did that. Like, so, nigga, what's coming better? And
- 54:03Speaker 1: then on top of that too, you put your hands
- 54:05Speaker 1: on one of them, I'm going to chad, I'm going
- 54:07Speaker 1: to jad. I will lose it off for them, for
- 54:10Speaker 1: those kids, I'm losing it all. And niggam looking at
- 54:13Speaker 1: judge like how do you plead guilty? Like and I'm
- 54:16Speaker 1: gonna take my time why because at end the day,
- 54:18Speaker 1: you're not going to just beat on my my love,
- 54:22Speaker 1: my heart that these are the people that keeping me running.
- 54:24Speaker 3: You're not gonna do that thing. God like shout out
- 54:26Speaker 3: to my step pops.
- 54:27Speaker 1: My mother is that my mother could be a handful,
- 54:30Speaker 1: but he never got out of the line. And I always
- 54:33Speaker 1: seen that man get up and just walk out the house.
- 54:36Speaker 1: And I sat there, I'm like, all right, cool. So
- 54:38Speaker 1: like I've never been in the environment to see like
- 54:40Speaker 1: the high style and none of that. So it's like,
- 54:42Speaker 1: all right, cool, this is what it is. So growing
- 54:45Speaker 1: up when girls, yo, you pussy this that. And the
- 54:47Speaker 1: third I woke away diet it phazed me. But the
- 54:50Speaker 1: day I could not walk away, it was like, nah,
- 54:54Speaker 1: I'm turning to something that I'm not. Last time I
- 54:57Speaker 1: did it, I called my cousin. I said, so most
- 55:00Speaker 1: of your say yeah, I said, I need help, So
- 55:03Speaker 1: what's wrong? I said, I need to go to therapists.
- 55:04Speaker 1: I need help. And she said, no proble because before
- 55:07Speaker 1: they're like, yo, you need a therapist. I'm not going
- 55:09Speaker 1: to no therps. I'm not going to a therapist. But
- 55:11Speaker 1: the last time I did it, and I just hear
- 55:12Speaker 1: my son's screaming and I couldn't control myself and I
- 55:15Speaker 1: lost it.
- 55:16Speaker 3: I said, damn, I need help. So I need help.
- 55:19Speaker 2: That's the big part recognizing when you need help, and
- 55:22Speaker 2: that's what we're going to lead into with the French facts.
- 55:25Speaker 2: Recognize when you need help, it's okay to ask for help,
- 55:28Speaker 2: whether you're a female or a male. Abuse is real.
- 55:31Speaker 2: Take it serious because one punch could be the last
- 55:34Speaker 2: one and that's all you need sometimes to take you
- 55:37Speaker 2: out this world, and nobody deserves that. Don't be scared
- 55:42Speaker 2: to leave, find outlets. I know the police. A lot
- 55:46Speaker 2: of people feel like the police aren't helpful. Maybe told
- 55:48Speaker 2: to someone that's been through it. Sometimes you have to
- 55:51Speaker 2: uproll and change your whole environment. Sometimes you have to
- 55:53Speaker 2: get a whole new identity. Unfortunately it's sad to say,
- 55:56Speaker 2: but there are people that are here just to try
- 55:59Speaker 2: to take you out your go and take you off
- 56:00Speaker 2: this world, and you don't deserve that. There's hotlines, there's helplines,
- 56:04Speaker 2: there's therapy. Do it secretively, don't ever tell everybody or
- 56:08Speaker 2: your moves. And sometimes you just have to protect your
- 56:11Speaker 2: family and situations like this, maybe even stay away from
- 56:14Speaker 2: them and don't let them know that you love your
- 56:16Speaker 2: family because a lot of people that our abusers will
- 56:19Speaker 2: go after the family if they can't get next to you.
- 56:21Speaker 2: Pay attention to the signs. One time it's too many
- 56:24Speaker 2: leave after the first time. Love yourself so that you
- 56:28Speaker 2: never feel like you have to settle for the bare
- 56:29Speaker 2: minimum from what somebody else is giving you. Abuse is
- 56:31Speaker 2: not love. Someone hitting you is not love. It doesn't
- 56:34Speaker 2: mean that they are passionate about you. It means that
- 56:36Speaker 2: they're angry with something within themselves. It means that they're
- 56:39Speaker 2: quite jealous of you, and they quite much hate themselves,
- 56:41Speaker 2: quite frankly, So take care of yourself. Domestic violence is
- 56:45Speaker 2: never okay. And this is different chiefects, different.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Chief facts, and I'm about to hit them with motivation
- 56:51Speaker 1: for they ass But before I do that, look up
- 56:54Speaker 1: the domestic violence. Even though we're gonna put it on
- 56:56Speaker 1: the screen at the end.
- 56:57Speaker 2: Yes, the domestic violence, because that's blonde.
- 57:00Speaker 3: You know, I'm getting beat up and ship.
- 57:02Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they can't.
- 57:03Speaker 3: I mean they can't see it. So if you got
- 57:04Speaker 3: to put it out there, you know.
- 57:06Speaker 2: Okay, So the domestic violence, be guess I was just
- 57:11Speaker 2: prepared to put it in.
- 57:12Speaker 3: Your not just pull out. I'm going to my motive.
- 57:14Speaker 1: Motive.
- 57:14Speaker 2: You just ask for this ship, you can do it.
- 57:16Speaker 3: At the end of the episode.
- 57:17Speaker 2: For domestic violence hotline is eight zero zero seven. Nine
- 57:21Speaker 2: nine seven two three three and sometimes eight zero zero
- 57:26Speaker 2: seven ninety nine seven two three three and sometimes if
- 57:29Speaker 2: you can't talk, you can text text eight eight seven
- 57:33Speaker 2: eight eight thank you.
- 57:38Speaker 3: Use it.
- 57:38Speaker 1: But motivation for your ass. But this is see no motivation.
- 57:43Speaker 1: You know I'm dropping motivation for your ass.
- 57:46Speaker 3: Men, we gotta do it better.
- 57:49Speaker 1: Be really putting our hands on these women for no
- 57:52Speaker 1: parent reason, to make our to make it feel like
- 57:54Speaker 1: our nuts getting bigger. It's really not. When you put
- 57:59Speaker 1: your hand on the I think about it. That could
- 58:01Speaker 1: be your mother that you put your hands in on.
- 58:04Speaker 1: That could be your daughter. You put your hands on
- 58:05Speaker 1: your grandmother. You don't like it, so don't do it.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Don't call that woman your queen. If you're not putting
- 58:10Speaker 1: her at the top of the mountain, if if she
- 58:12Speaker 1: steady under the bottom of your sneakers. Real men, if
- 58:18Speaker 1: you see something, don't just ignore it and walk past it.
- 58:22Speaker 1: That you can really save that woman life. You can
- 58:25Speaker 1: like real shit. It's times that women ran to us
- 58:30Speaker 1: and told us that she was getting abused by the man,
- 58:33Speaker 1: and you just looked down the block and you see
- 58:35Speaker 1: him on the corner, a real man. If he was
- 58:37Speaker 1: really that tough in that gangst the he or that
- 58:38Speaker 1: came down there with us and grabbed her. I stayed
- 58:40Speaker 1: on the corner because you know, what he was doing
- 58:42Speaker 1: was wrong, and I'm like call the cops, you know,
- 58:45Speaker 1: like get the proper help you need, because us going
- 58:48Speaker 1: down there and beating his ass is not really doing
- 58:50Speaker 1: nothing for us. It's like you could put us all
- 58:52Speaker 1: in trouble. So if you see sign, just don't say nothing.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Do sign save her life. And the best of violence
- 59:00Speaker 1: is just as bad as fucked up.
- 59:02Speaker 3: I'm not proud of it. I'm a big fan on it.
- 59:06Speaker 1: If it's a walk stand, I'm willing to go out
- 59:08Speaker 1: there and stand by the women. Like that's what a
- 59:10Speaker 1: lot of men need to start doing, standing by women.
- 59:12Speaker 1: I feel like we're not doing enough of that.
- 59:15Speaker 3: And the front. I'm here for you.
- 59:17Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 59:18Speaker 1: You're annoying now, you know, here for you. I get
- 59:21Speaker 1: a viewers that our text girl and our text messages here.
- 59:25Speaker 1: That's to say, but it's all love, and I mean,
- 59:29Speaker 1: just get the help. She gave you out a hotline number,
- 59:32Speaker 1: the text man, text.
- 59:33Speaker 2: Text call and if you ever need just advice from
- 59:36Speaker 2: another woman and you just want to talk about it.
- 59:38Speaker 2: My dms are always open at for real so.
- 59:42Speaker 1: You know official blind with a Blind and Sea podcast.
- 59:45Speaker 1: You can also you know you got a story, send
- 59:48Speaker 1: your story into the DM.
- 59:50Speaker 2: It doesn't just have to be domesticance. We talked about everything,
- 59:52Speaker 2: so if you want us to share something, d m
- 59:55Speaker 2: us you could d m us at the Blind but
- 59:57Speaker 2: now I see page. You could d m us at
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- 1:00:04Speaker 2: let us know so we can talk about it.
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: Stop punching our queens and punch that punching.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: And ladies, don't hit these brothers neither.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: Keep your hands off everybody, keep their hands off each
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: other man.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: Keep your hands to yourself unless it's been list.
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: Unless a little bit tat that.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it for this episode.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: That's out. We out easy