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Patriots Unfiltered 10/15: Jets Preview, Injury/Practice Updates, Week 6 NFL Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota.com.
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  Speaker 1: He's at urgent care right now getting checked. His buddy, Bart,
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  Speaker 1: came down with a case of strep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Getting the test.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised between the two of them it's not mono.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Swap and spit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had mono. Kept Mike off of PP1. I
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  Speaker 1: did lose about.
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  Speaker 4: 15 pounds, though, so that was positive.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. That was a positive.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Got my beach body back, so. Can you give us
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  Speaker 1: some hole-in-the-wall recommendations for bars and restaurants around Boston? From
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  Speaker 1: a fan standpoint, that game was riveting. It was back
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  Speaker 1: and forth.
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  Speaker 2: Who were you rooting for? The Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I just don't learn much in those games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there to learn. I just want to watch
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  Speaker 1: my team win. Blowing out the other team is fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch, too. Which would you rather have as a fan?
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  Speaker 2: The struggle.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 6: I don't learn anything in blowouts against these terrible teams.
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  Speaker 2: Generally, blowouts happen against bad teams.
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  Speaker 1: So when you go to the movies, you just go
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  Speaker 1: to documentaries because you want to learn something?
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  Speaker 6: He's so close to being Andy Hart, he can't even
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  Speaker 6: see it.
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  Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered. Presented by Toyota.com.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. We picked up one from yesterday, but
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  Speaker 1: we lost one too, so we're kind of like the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots here in terms of the injuries. Paul is, what's
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  Speaker 1: he got, like a golf bat.
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  Speaker 2: Or something like that?
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  Speaker 4: He's tied up with some stuff. He's got to drive
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  Speaker 4: somebody to an appointment.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't air public things.
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  Speaker 1: We don't?
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  Speaker 4: Because of HIPAA.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that this show were an open book. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought so, too. But as you can see, Evan's
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  Speaker 1: back with his voice.
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  Speaker 2: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: What, Alex? Let's just chill with the public. Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: But Evan is here. He's got not a fully clean
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  Speaker 1: bowl of health, but it's just a common cold, right? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, please test me for literally everything. And
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  Speaker 7: they were like, okay, calm down.
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  Speaker 4: You got a bad case of ball.
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  Speaker 3: No plague.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: My worst nightmare is I don't care about you guys,
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  Speaker 7: but if I got one of the players sick, I
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  Speaker 7: would never like, you know, that would ruin it for me.
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  Speaker 2: So I was in the, I like stayed like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: far away yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: It must have been hard when Will Campbell walked through.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to dap him up myself. I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: hug him and be like, thank God, Will, you're okay.
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  Speaker 1: Evan's here. I'm here. Deuce is here. Alex is here.
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  Speaker 2: Matt's in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: We got picks today. So who's handling the... Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: That would be me. Was that you?
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  Speaker 4: I have it right here.
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  Speaker 1: All right. We'll save it. We'll save it for later
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  Speaker 1: in the show when we have to hurry. But Deuce
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  Speaker 1: will handle all the recording.
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  Speaker 2: Of the tapes.
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  Speaker 3: He told you how to write everything down.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he does like, you know, Paul does like these
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  Speaker 4: little line things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he makes it very even.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the delivery will be very smooth. You'll have
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  Speaker 1: it all under control.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure I won't at all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, I just got an email from one
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  Speaker 1: of our longtime listeners. And speaking of private lives, he
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  Speaker 1: wants to make something public.
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  Speaker 2: Sweet kid. from Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: There will soon be a Mrs. Sweet Kid coming. My
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  Speaker 1: engagement was a success. I think everyone knows how much P.U.
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  Speaker 2: Means to me.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you to everyone that's been so supportive to us.
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  Speaker 1: Special shout out to Kat in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: You are the best.
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  Speaker 1: I guess they went to Chicago and got a tour
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  Speaker 1: of her house and all that.
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  Speaker 2: He's saying 24-13 Patriots in.
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  Speaker 1: He sent us some pictures of the actual engagement and
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  Speaker 1: of his new fiancée, and we'll have that in the
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  Speaker 1: newsletter tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Where did he do it?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like in front of a fountain. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: French quarter vibes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it was in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 9: Fred just sent me the photos with no context, but
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  Speaker 9: I recognized Melvin's face, so I put two and two together.
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  Speaker 3: So if you could forward me the.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of the email, that'd be great. I did send
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  Speaker 1: you that, didn't I?
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  Speaker 3: Just the pictures, though. I don't have any text.
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  Speaker 1: We'll worry about it later. Is she a Patriots fan?
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  Speaker 1: That's my question.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she better be. She better be.
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  Speaker 1: What's her fan allegiance? But he said, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: wants her to, you know, he wants to introduce her
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  Speaker 1: to his life, which we are part of.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: She'll start listening to the podcast every day.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'll expect my invite to the wedding. So welcome, Lakeisha.
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  Speaker 1: I need a reason to come to Nashville. So give
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  Speaker 1: me an invite.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they got great barbecues. Oh, well, I've been there before.
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  Speaker 1: You should go to the wedding.
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  Speaker 3: Teams do that all the time. The Ravens schedule released
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 9: They sent their mascot and Zay Flowers to someone's wedding
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  Speaker 9: who had sent them an invite.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: We'll send Fred in his tuck. That would be perfect.
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  Speaker 3: The draft date.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: It's not black tie.
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  Speaker 1: What is he doing?
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  Speaker 3: That's how Paul can maybe make some more money.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciating weddings? No. Wedding appearances?
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  Speaker 3: Weddings and stuff. For the diehard fans, like cameo, but
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  Speaker 3: at another level.
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  Speaker 2: He should have a cameo, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He should have a cameo.
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  Speaker 1: I've officiated a wedding before.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my sister's wedding.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have to get registered for that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just for the day.
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  Speaker 1: On more dates. Yeah, it's like easy, right? Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: technically she'd like.
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  Speaker 3: It took like 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Technically, she was already married.
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  Speaker 9: And then they send you a little certificate. Lovely process.
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  Speaker 9: Very nerve-wracking. My mic broke mid-salon.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't really nervous. So you've done it too? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was really nervous.
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  Speaker 7: But they didn't want it to be a religious wedding,
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  Speaker 7: so they wanted to have a friend or a family
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  Speaker 7: member do it instead.
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  Speaker 1: They picked the biggest atheist they could find.
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  Speaker 7: They were just like, you know, they were trying to
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  Speaker 7: find a role for me, because me and my sister
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  Speaker 7: are pretty close, and so they were trying to find
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  Speaker 7: a role for me that was like, more than just, like,
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  Speaker 7: a groomsman, but, like, I wasn't going to be, like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, her maid of honor, because I'm not a gal.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a man of honor in a wedding before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can just see Evan up there. I can see that.
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  Speaker 4: The best woman, too.
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  Speaker 1: Analytics Evan gets up there, and before he does the
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  Speaker 1: vows and all that, just, you know, 52% of weddings,
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  Speaker 1: you know, marriages, and the divorce, but that rate, the
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  Speaker 1: DVOA for that changes when.
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  Speaker 2: It's, you know, like.
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  Speaker 4: That would be good at Evan Angle to do it,
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  Speaker 4: you know?
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  Speaker 1: You might know. It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I gave.
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  Speaker 4: two wedding speeches and they were, they were really fun.
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  Speaker 4: I was nervous, but it was cool. This is the
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  Speaker 4: closest I'll ever get to doing standup comedy. I felt
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  Speaker 4: like it was, and I think people were worried cause
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  Speaker 4: I had like a whole printout and people were like,
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, but it was, I think it was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 1: My first one went better than my second one.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: So is it, when you do those speeches, is it
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  Speaker 1: required that it be funny or can it just be
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  Speaker 1: like sweet?
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  Speaker 4: Um, well I did one for my friend Ashley who
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  Speaker 4: I was her man of honor. She was my best woman.
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  Speaker 4: So that one was a little more funny and, I
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  Speaker 4: think my sister's was a little more sweet because I
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  Speaker 4: just told, actually, I told the story of Gino, her husband.
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  Speaker 4: The first time I met him, we went to a
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  Speaker 4: Chargers game in 2008 at the Chargers. Patriots got smoked.
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  Speaker 4: And I was sitting in a good seat down below
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  Speaker 4: watching the Patriots. They were up in the 300s. And I, like,
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  Speaker 4: meet up with him after the game. And Gino, who's from.
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  Speaker 1: Southie, he's a hockey ref. You know, he's got the
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  Speaker 1: whole accent of it.
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  Speaker 4: And he, I guess he had gotten like, not a
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  Speaker 4: physical fight, but like people were harassing my sister and
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  Speaker 4: he got into it with them. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, this guy seems like a pretty good dude.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that was how I knew he was a
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  Speaker 4: good guy standing up for my sister.
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  Speaker 2: A little like combination of both.
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  Speaker 3: It depends on the couple.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit of ball busting.
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  Speaker 2: And then you bring it home at the end with
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  Speaker 2: like some, some corny stuff.
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  Speaker 3: When I've done it, it was mostly sweet, mostly lovely.
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  Speaker 9: But my first, friend's husband, who's also now one of
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  Speaker 9: my close friends, he's just such a character and also
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  Speaker 9: a degenerate gambler. So there were a couple opportunities for
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  Speaker 9: me to get some little comedic relief.
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  Speaker 2: And you took those opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I did.
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  Speaker 4: I had to make fun of my friend Ashley because
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  Speaker 4: she had dated a guy named Mike, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not that Mike. Oh, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 4: No, that Mike was actually... She worked at Chuck E.
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  Speaker 4: Cheese with him, and he was the Chuck E.
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  Speaker 1: Cheese.
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  Speaker 4: So, like, that was the big joke.
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  Speaker 2: He was the guy that dressed up.
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  Speaker 1: He was the guy that dressed up as Chuck E.
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  Speaker 2: Cheese.
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  Speaker 4: So it was a comedy goldmine.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much to unpack. Marrying up there.
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  Speaker 3: So much to unpack there.
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  Speaker 1: Big future for her.
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  Speaker 4: It was a great joke. I'm like, I'm not the
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  Speaker 4: Mike that she dated who was Chuck E.
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  Speaker 5: Cheese.
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  Speaker 4: That was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was good.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 2: On to football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Patriots, Jets, Sunday at 1. We talked about it
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  Speaker 1: a lot yesterday before we got off the rails a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but Evan's here.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: And you just finished doing Catch-22 with Deuce. Catch-20-Deuce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're calling it Catch-20-Deuce. Catch-20-Deuce.
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  Speaker 4: When I fill in. I filled in for Barth. I
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  Speaker 4: wore my glasses a little bit. I tried to be
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  Speaker 4: more ornery, but I don't think I was ornery enough.
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  Speaker 2: You could call it Catch-Double-Deuce. Because that's what 22 is.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: That's not bad, too.
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  Speaker 1: There's only one deuce, though. Evan's not a deuce.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's 22. So it's deuce, deuce. Yeah, fair enough. Anyway, again,
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  Speaker 2: we're off the rails.
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  Speaker 1: But, Evan, I haven't had a chance to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about the Jets yet.
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  Speaker 2: What is the biggest.
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  Speaker 1: How can the Jets win this game?
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  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. I think their path to
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  Speaker 2: victory is a rock fight, right? I mean, I think defensively.
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  Speaker 7: Even though I thought some of the eight sacks that
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  Speaker 7: they had last week were more Cleveland Browns than New
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  Speaker 7: York Jets, it was still eight sacks and they can
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  Speaker 7: get after the quarterback. And Aaron Glenn's a notoriously blitz
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  Speaker 7: happy defensive play caller. So they're going to bring pressure
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  Speaker 7: and there can muddy up the game. And maybe if
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  Speaker 7: they do that and offensively, if they can run the
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  Speaker 7: ball a little bit and control the clock, then kind
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  Speaker 7: of shorten the game and win it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. 17-14, 20-17. Like, I think that's the Jets' path.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very narrow one, but I think that's the Jets' path.
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  Speaker 1: So, I was reading Deuce's three to watch, and he
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  Speaker 1: was talking about how last game the Jets were in
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  Speaker 1: man like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not historically what you want to do against
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots and Drake May. But do you think Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Glenn might say, we do that well, and we'll take
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  Speaker 1: our chances? So, they.
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  Speaker 2: were, yeah, they are 41% man last week.
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  Speaker 7: They also are 63% blitz last week, which are both
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  Speaker 7: extremely high numbers against the Browns and Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 2: But they have over the course of the season.
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  Speaker 7: Played a little bit more zone and a little bit
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  Speaker 7: more split safety specifically than they had last year in
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  Speaker 7: Glenn's first year. Like I would say his, his, roots are,
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  Speaker 7: are man and blitzing like that, that going back to
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  Speaker 7: Detroit and how he coordinated those defenses. So I think
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  Speaker 7: that's what his bread and butter is, but I think
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  Speaker 7: they've realized personnel wise, they don't have the cornerbacks to
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  Speaker 7: be in man to man all the time. And they've
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  Speaker 7: had to mix it up a little bit more into
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  Speaker 7: his credit.
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  Speaker 1: They have.
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  Speaker 7: So I, we were talking on, on catch 20 deuce that, uh,
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  Speaker 7: that's gotta be the game plan. Like if, if Aaron
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  Speaker 7: Glenn comes into this game and they put a safety
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  Speaker 7: up top and they play man to man and they
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  Speaker 7: come after Drake may, uh, And Drake may is going
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  Speaker 7: to throw for 400 yards in a game like that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not like, that's honestly going to be the case.
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  Speaker 7: So if Aaron Glenn comes into this game and plays
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  Speaker 7: more split safety, keeps things in front of them, makes
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  Speaker 7: Drake may March the field. That also shortens the game
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  Speaker 7: defensively too, by making them go on 12, 13, 14
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  Speaker 7: play drives.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be impressed like that. That to me would be like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, like this.
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  Speaker 7: Is a game plan that you can get behind and
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  Speaker 7: you see what they're trying to do. If they come
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  Speaker 7: out and play man-to-man and give Drake the single shots
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  Speaker 7: on the outside, then it's going.
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  Speaker 2: To be a long day for them. Good luck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a good overview.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the headlines.
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  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 12: Who's back at practice for the Patriots? Do you want
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  Speaker 12: to talk about that? Ajay Brown, back out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 12: we were talking a little bit about him. I mean,
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  Speaker 12: you know, I hate doing this, but he looked like
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  Speaker 12: he was running good. You know, these guys, they always
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  Speaker 12: probably look good running even when they are injured. But
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  Speaker 12: a little bit of an ankle tape on him, you know,
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  Speaker 12: just letting you know he is still coming back from that.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's, you know, obviously a great sign.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a big piece of the offseason.
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  Speaker 4: This is what we've all been talking about. And just
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  Speaker 4: excited to see these.
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  Speaker 2: Guys get together.
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  Speaker 1: And the way everyone's talking, I didn't think he'd play
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  Speaker 1: this game.
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  Speaker 2: I figured he'd be back at practice.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like Rabel's press conference towards the end of
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  Speaker 9: his quotes about them kind of insinuated that they might
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  Speaker 9: at least try it and see how he looks and
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  Speaker 9: see how it feels, maybe not the whole game. But
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  Speaker 9: I forget how Rabel ended it, but he was like,
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  Speaker 9: we'll see if he's ready to go in a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Days, and then if not, 21-day window. So that kind
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  Speaker 3: of perked my ears up a bit.
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  Speaker 4: The thing I said to Ev was, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: Evan made the point, you don't have to play him
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  Speaker 4: every single down.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you can ease him back in.
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  Speaker 4: And really, in the grand scheme of things, this game
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  Speaker 4: against the Jets is more important than next week's game
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  Speaker 4: against the Bears. So, you know, and do you necessarily
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: have to have to have A.J. Brown to win this game?
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: But if he was a little sore, you know, you'll
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: get an extended break.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: See, here's my thing.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I just get him out there.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: If he's a little sore, I don't want him playing. Yes,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: this is a more important game than the Bears, but.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's a winnable game without A.J.
• 12:57
  Speaker 13: Brown.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: And I'd rather make sure that the game he comes back,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: he is 100% ready to go. I don't want any setbacks.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: I want him for the rest of the season. So
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: to me, if he plays this game, that means he's ready.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: You know, Jim Whalen's training staff has signed off and said, no,
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: he is good. He's good to go.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: If something happens in this game, it's a new thing.
• 13:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a tricky one.
• 13:26
  Speaker 7: And Rabel was asked about the Thursday night football next week,
• 13:28
  Speaker 7: and he kind of downplayed it and said, let's just
• 13:31
  Speaker 7: worry about the Jets, and then we'll worry about that.
• 13:33
  Speaker 7: you know, come Monday, but at the same time, it
• 13:36
  Speaker 7: is two games in five days that they have coming up.
• 13:39
  Speaker 7: And if you play Jay Brown on Sunday against the jets,
• 13:42
  Speaker 7: are you then going to turn around and have him
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: play again Thursday night against the bears? Whereas, you know,
• 13:47
  Speaker 7: if you hold them out in this game, maybe you
• 13:49
  Speaker 7: bring them back in the bears game and then you
• 13:50
  Speaker 7: have the 10 days off in between to get them
• 13:52
  Speaker 7: ready for the dolphins. And It's a little bit of
• 13:54
  Speaker 7: a softer landing spot in that respect. But the other
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: side of it is that, well, they have practice this week,
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: but they don't really practice.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Next week with the Thursday night game.
• 14:03
  Speaker 7: They have walkthroughs and stuff like that. So if you
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: don't play him in the game, is he getting any
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: real live reps? Because if he's not in the game
• 14:10
  Speaker 7: plan this week, then he's probably not going to get
• 14:12
  Speaker 7: the reps with the first team offense in practice this week.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: And then next week, they don't really have practice.
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: So do you play him in this game on Sunday
• 14:20
  Speaker 7: against the Jets even like 20 snaps? Like just to
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: get his sea legs and just to get him some
• 14:25
  Speaker 7: work in to see how he's moving.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I think it is a little bit of a discussion
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: in terms of how to do it.
• 14:30
  Speaker 9: Especially with how slow the offense kind of started off
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: to the season.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was totally preparing myself for him not
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: playing until after Chicago. Sure. Because you have that long
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: break after that game. So then you know.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: If he was.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Kind of ready to go this week, he's definitely going
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: to be ready to go after Chicago. And you go
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: all that extra time after that game to... He's going
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: to start. It's going to be a full week of
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: practice with him as the starter. No bones about it.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: So I was preparing myself for that. But listen, again,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: if he's ready to go, let's go.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I mean, do you think there's any, and
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: just throwing it out there, of using him like they
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: used Gronk on the Super Bowl? I know that that
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: wasn't ideal, but.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: A.J.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Brown is a presence, and he's somebody that if he's
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: out there, Glenn and the Jets are going to have
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: to take account of him and figure out, we don't
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: know what he's got right now, but we have to
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: be aware of him. Does that help where you're just
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: going to get him out there? Maybe we're not going
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: to play him a ton. We're not going to target
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: him a ton. Why would you do that? Is that because...
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Just to pull some coverage, to put something for the
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: defense to think about.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just spitballing here.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: It's fine, but again, if he's 100%, Let's go. You know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: let's go.
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: I would more just look at, like, I think we're
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: saying the same thing differently, Deuce. Like, I just think
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: that practice reps this time of year are not what
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: we were watching in August, right? Like, they have, you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: good on good periods on Wednesdays usually for the end
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: of Wednesday where the starters go against the starters. But
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: for the most part, it's offense, scout, you know, offense
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: one versus the scout team and so on and so forth.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: And if you're not in the game plan, if you're
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: not playing, then they're not going to be giving A.J.
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: Brown those reps over Kyle Williams and Romeo Dobbs and
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Pop Douglas and Efton Chisholm. So they've got to get
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: those guys ready to play in the game. I hate
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: to say that the game is practice, but for A.J. Brown,
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: it's almost like just getting him back into the mix
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: of it and getting his sea legs and all that
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: kind of stuff. I think there is some value to
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: him just being active in the game on Sunday and
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: just having him even play 15 to 20 snaps regularly.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Whether it's a decoy, whether it's full go in those
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: snaps or what have you.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And I mean, like this is a guy who grew
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: up a Patriots fan who hasn't played at home yet.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he'd like and of course, he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: a major competitor, too. But I think A.J. Brown is
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: going to want to be out there. He's going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: want to, you know, run out of that tunnel with
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: his helmet flashing in the sun, if you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean. All right, so A.J. Brown, Will Campbell,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: good news is that he's at practice. Now, he wasn't
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a full participant. That's weird. But he's out there, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: so the reports are that he's avoided a major or
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a more difficult injury to come back from.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: One of the more jaw-dropping moments I've had in my
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: time here of covering the locker room where we went
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: from hearing Vrabel in his press conference saying, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: playing coy about it, saying, well, if we do put
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: someone on an hour, it probably would be Saturday.
• 17:30
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: You know, we know what happened last year. And then
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Will Campbell just comes walking into
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the locker room with his pads on and everything, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: his shells on. I'm like, holy crap.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: And it was mid-scrum with Lomu, too. So you're talking
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: to Lomu about Lomu having.
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: To play and start, and Will just comes in full,
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: ready to go, dressed, and goes out equipment to the field.
• 17:49
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: The money quote to me, just sorry, real quick, was just,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: he said it felt, it was a lot different than
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: last year's injury. So, you know, what degree is that?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Evan and I on Catch 20 Deuce were talking like,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: are we trying to save him from himself again? Is
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he trying to, you know, push to play? I just
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: thought it was interesting. We saw him. He looked like
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: he was ready to go out to practice. They didn't,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: then they didn't see him out there. Then he was
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: reported as limited as was Travion Henderson, who I thought
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: with the reports that he's got a high ankle sprain
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: that he was probably headed to IR, but The.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: Travion Henderson one surprised me more than Will Campbell, because
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: the reports out of the game on Sunday were that
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Will Campbell almost immediately avoided a major injury. Travion Henderson,
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: everybody said it was a high ankle sprain, which is
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: usually a multi-week injury, maybe even... a short-term IR thing,
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden he's limited in practice
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: yesterday and he's out there.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, this is strange.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I think the Vrabel laying hands, there's something to that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: He's a quick healer, Travion.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Just healing. Did you see Travion come back out to
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the sidelines?
• 18:53
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And Will was on.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: The bike, too.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on the sideline.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I read too much into all that.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: The doctors told us yesterday on the show that For
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: an MCL, it's good to keep it moving.
• 19:02
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Because I was wondering the same thing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, Will's on the bike. That's a good sign. But
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that's what you kind of do.
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: I wonder if that builds, like, inflammation if you stop moving.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: So that's what they did.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Makes sense.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So relatively good news on the injury front in terms of,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you know, what, you know, it could have been worse.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: In other words.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, in a weird way, it's like I'm excited
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to see Lomu get a chance. You know, see this
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: first round pick get out there and get the first
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: start of his career. It's, you know, a big spot.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: The offensive line has been playing better. How does it look,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: you know, with him in there? And this is, you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the future is now. That's the kind of, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: mindset when these young guys get an opportunity. You know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: it's not just about this week against the Jets. It's about,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: you know, December, January and getting these guys ready. Then,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you know, another injury comes up down the pike. You've
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: got Lomu has some starting.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Experience. Walter Melrose has a question and a couple other
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: people have the same question that I've emailed in. why
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: not require your linemen to wear braces? Preventatively, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: as a preventative message. I think Belichick used to have
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that policy that linemen wear braces.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Why not make them wear braces?
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Some guys, just the range of movement feels restricted. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: it's kind of, I think that's probably the.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure that's the answer, but like, the more
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you do it, the more you get used to it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's these athletic guys, though, you know?
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I just like, I remember, you know, just
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: a different position, but, like, Mahomes, the Chiefs had to, like,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: beg him to wear the knee brace in practice when
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: he was coming back from the ACL, and he kept
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: on throwing it off and being like, I don't want
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: this thing. This thing is, you know, it's restricting my movement.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: So I think that that's the main reason.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Mahomes, a quarterback different, but lineman, you know, you're, you know, yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that, you know, you get out of your
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: stance and you're on the move sometimes and all that, but, like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: how much... range of motion do you actually need? Right.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you need to be able to, like, bend and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: get into your stance and.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I wonder how difficult it makes, like, lateral movement, too.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: But with today's technology, I mean.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: The braces are crazy. They're really lightweight. They're... Yeah. It's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: pretty insane.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's not like the huge bulky things that they used
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to have. And who was it just recently? I don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: know if it was Mahomes, but They had him fitted
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: with this really streamlined brace. It was Mahomes.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It was Mahomes. They wouldn't shut up about this damn brace.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to wear it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: He was like, I need to be able to move
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: around and he'd be able to run and be Patrick Mahomes.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: And they were like, well, you're the franchise and you
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: tore your ACL, so put the damn brace on.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I remember when Brady had to wear his brace and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he slid once and the thing got unhooked and it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was sticking out and everything like that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: To me, that's a bad brace.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But like I said, with today's technology, let's figure it out.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Let's protect these linemen because... So often they get rolled up.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: It's not even like, you know, they see it coming
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and they can avoid it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know how guys don't get hurt every
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: single play. Sometimes people just charge into the line and
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: bodies are just collapsing.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how is a leg not getting broken?
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a tough one because he was he
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: was pulling out the block and the guy he was
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: supposed to block kind of slanted inside. So he let
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: him go. And then he was kind of like looking
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: around to block somebody. And so he was kind of
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: lost a little bit on the play.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And space.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden the, the, the train
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: wreck happens and, you know, right on top of them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So it was a, it was a tough play.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I just, I think the big key that Evan and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I talked about was just, you know, making sure that
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: we'll Campbell is, is healthy and isn't going to go
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: out there and, you know, try to push it. And
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he heard the talk last year about how
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: things changed after the injury. I mean, very well said it,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Ellie Wolf said it, um, just want to avoid that again.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I don't want to, you know, be coming in here
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: talking about, hell, he was good before the injury, like
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: make sure he's healthy and, You know, it's early enough
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: in the season that he should be okay by the
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: time these games really start to count after Thanksgiving.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: There's some pressure on him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: There's no doubt. Like, for him to play well, obviously
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: they drafted Lomu. Like, there's some pressure on him. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: this is a me thing that I get worried about
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: and probably zero truth or validity to it. But, like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: you just hope that he's not, like, worried about, like,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: losing his job to Lomu.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Getting Wally Pipped.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And so.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Morgan Moses is 35
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: years old. So you need two tackles. So whether it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the left.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: Side or the right side, he's going to have a
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: starting job here for the foreseeable future. But that would
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: be the smallest concern that I would have is that
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: he's looking over his shoulder.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: So moving back to Henderson, I don't think he's going
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to play this week. So how are the Patriots going
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to work around that this week? Time to kiner. Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: So, you know, Ramond Ray, obviously Corey Kiner, uh, land
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: layers in on the practice squad. They did sign Hassan
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Haskins back to the practice squad too. So they have
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: two running backs on the practice squad. Now I would
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: assume that Larrison would probably get the elevation though over.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Over Haskins.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Uh, but going back to week one, Ramond Ray Stevenson
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: against Seattle went with that Travion Henderson played 85% of
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: the snaps. So he basically was wire to wire that
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: the running back in that game. Uh, I don't, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: Deuce has been on it. I don't think we want
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: to see that. Like, you don't want to see him
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: have to shoulder that kind of workload. Now, if it's
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: just one week, then that's one thing. But if it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: a long-term thing, so I think you have to at
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: least get Corey Kiner some, you know, between the tackles,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: first down kind of carries, like eight, ten of them
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: in a game like this and take a little bit
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: of the pressure off of Ramondre.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: The high rate of blitzing from the Jets is where
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I would be cautious with Ramondre and using him in
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: those situations because the Jets are going to blitz He's
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: a back.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You trust in blitz pickup.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: So, you know, running him into the ground on first down,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: maybe not as important as keeping him to be able
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: to block on third down.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And listen, if the Jets do blitz a lot, good luck.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams might be more effective with that than A.J.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Brown because of his speed.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, possibly. I mean, you know, are they playing more zone?
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: What guys know where to sit? Those kind of things. Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's a good chess match.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I'm really interested just to see because I think it's
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: an opportunity for Aaron Glenn to show against the divisional
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: rival that we can game plan against this guy. That's
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: what I always thought in the AFC East. Like every offseason,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: we have to figure out Tom Brady. Like if you're
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the if you're one of those three teams, that's what
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you have to do. Now we got to figure out
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Drake May. And, you know, the best
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: way to do it is probably not. their preferred style
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: of defense. So can they adjust? Can they be flexible?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Because if you can't beat Drake main, you don't have
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a plan against the Patriots. Then I think it's a
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: real indictment on what you're trying to build.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: They, they don't have the offense probably, but like defensively,
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: I think they have some personnel now that they can
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: at least do some things that can challenge you. You know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: obviously talked a lot about Bailey are already this week,
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: but they, they trade for Minka.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: They have David Bailey.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: They have the Mario Davis now linebacker.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So they have some pieces.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. So, okay, what are the things that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: we have to look for in this game? Let's turn
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to Geno Smith because he's come in here the last
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: two times, right? Yeah. And he's had success at Gillette Stadium.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Does that mean anything?
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just sharing his numbers in those two games.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Went in Seattle two years ago, 20-20 overtime. Last year
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: with Vegas, 20-13. 327 yards with Seattle, 362. with Vegas
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: last year. So that's, you know, 689 yards and passing
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: in two games, 103.1, 102.8 passer rating. So he's, I
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: just think he's not going to be intimidated. He's not,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: he's come in here and won twice with two different teams.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: So to expect him to come in here, he hasn't
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: thrown an interception.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to take care of the ball too.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: We can get into that. You know, Evan had some
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: good stats on that about.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Has any quarterback beaten the Patriots on three different teams?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. Maybe Fitzpatrick.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: He's the obvious candidate.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: He definitely beat him with the Bills. Yeah, probably with Miami.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: I'll effort that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: He started that game in 2019 for the Dolphins, I think,
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: the last game of the season.
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Knocked the Patriots out of the bye. That was a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: tough one.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: So I think maybe.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe Fitzpatrick. Maybe Fitzpatrick. Yeah, because he's been on every
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: team in the league. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But Gino Smith, I agree.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: He's not one to get intimidated.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's got.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: He's not the greatest quarterback ever, but he has a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: lot of confidence in himself. He doesn't get rattled. So
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I think you have to be careful playing against him. Now, obviously,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is really good.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: They've got the good tight end. Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: What did I call him?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Garrett Wilson.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: Sorry.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Wilson. We speak for him. The young tight
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: end that they've got, he's good. So they've got some
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: talent on offense. And I don't know about that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You don't know about that?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, they... Garrett Wilson's a really good player.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: I don't really know what else offensively.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Brees Hall's probably not going to play.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Do you like the running backs?
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like Braylon Allen. I think Braylon Allen is
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: kind of a power runner. Broke a bunch of tackles
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: last week.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Poor man, Derrick Henry.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: You know, I kind of... Brees Hall's not going to play,
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: so I've kind of, you know, crossed him off. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: outside of Garrett Wilson in the passing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Game, I don't really think they got much.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: It's very similar to last week with the Raiders. The
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: Brock Bowers, that's their guy. Garrett Wilson's the Jets guy.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: I don't really know if much else scares you. If
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Sadiq plays, he's in concussion protocol, so we'll see if
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: he plays. I guess him popping a seam or a
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: wheel route or something like that for a big play
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: could happen.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like they lit it up last
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: week against the Browns.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: They did not. They did not.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: They came out in the very first drive of the
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: game and went right down the field. But after that,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: the Browns, they were able to kind of figure it
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: out a little bit.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Brian Fitzpatrick did beat the Patriots with all three AFC
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: East teams.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he did.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Beat them in 2019 with Miami, as Ev pointed out.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Beat New England in 2015 in overtime, 26-20.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And then, oh, shoot, I just thought.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we have our answer.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right, we got a lot of calls, a
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: lot of emails, and, of course, we have to hurry
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because today's picks day. So it's 855-PATS-500 is the hotline.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Podcasts at Patriots.com is the email address. Alec writes in,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: if A.J. is cleared to play, then he should play.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: The coaches can determine if they want him on a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: snap count. He may very well not need to play
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: limited snaps. If Drake is on, then it won't really
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: matter if A.J.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Plays or not.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: That I agree with.
• 29:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: And I think he can get on without AJ. yeah
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: so i also agree with my main thing is let's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: make sure we have aj for the long term yeah
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: so whatever that means um it's also.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Just that pull to get the magic going and start
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: to see this connection because that's you know i think
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: getting these two guys getting their chemistry going in game
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: conditions that's something that might take a little bit of
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: time it might take A.J. Brown a little time to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: get up to game speed after the injury. So that's
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: why I'm just excited to get that clock going, because
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: it was such a it was so much fun this
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: summer to watch. I mean, even in, you know, minicamp,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: it was like in the first half in Seattle.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were getting in the ball.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: MJ says, welcome back, Evan. Glad you're feeling better. These
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: other guys are not ball knowers.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: OK, that Paul would.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Not like that email. He would not like that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Some of us, like, you know, pay attention to more
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: than just Red Zone, you know?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Logan in West Virginia writes in, Deuce set a throwaway
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: line in yesterday's show about not making this Jets unfiltered,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: which got me thinking about the Seinfeld episode, The Bizarro Jerry.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: What if a Jets unfiltered existed in a Bizarro universe
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and the JU crew... We're bizarro versions of the PU crew.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Here's how I would see each of you. Bizarro Fred
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: has a real laissez-faire attitude when it comes to time
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on Thursdays.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: There's no need to hurry.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Understands that being the home team doesn't give you three.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Not passionate about restaurants or products. Doesn't give his recommendations
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a strong enough opinion. Bizarro Evan
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: actually loves the NFL and watches the games while eating
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his favorite meal, Subway. Hates watching tape, considers it nerdy,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: loves to mow his own lawn. Bizarro deuce, has a
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: passion for watching and coaching basketball, frequently argues with Paul
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and isn't scared to do so.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That would be bizarre. That was the funniest part of
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Tuesday's show is Mike, like, so afraid.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: You came right out.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I have a bone to pick.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Saw Derrick Henry in person and did nothing for him.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Bizarro Paul, actually a fan of the team and wants
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: every win to be a blowout because he learns more
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: from beating a team by 30, tells people how they
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: should think and feel, has a new car. Well, Paul
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: actually does do that. He doesn't admit it, but, you know.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: And Bizarro Alex shows up on Thursdays.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I imagine Bizarro Fred, who has worked for the Jets
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: since the mid-90s, would be like the grizzled guy who's been,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: like Vietnam War movies where you get there and there's
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: the old guy who's been through seven tours and he
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: just looks absolutely like he's been through hell. I mean,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: a guy who's worked covering the Jets for that long,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: no Super Bowls, one playoff win, two playoff wins.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: We barely survived three years like that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: A real fan doesn't sit in a suite. He sits
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in the stands.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: One of those fuds.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I just feel like Paul is too far removed from
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: being a true fan because there is no fan that
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: looks at it and says, I want to learn about
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: the team in a tough game. That's how we look
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: at it. That's how you look at it as somebody
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: who covers the team.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: That's not it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Right. Like Sunday was, that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: Was like euphoric for most fans watching them light it
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: up like that.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: If you're a real fan of a team and your
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: team's about to play, do you go in and go, geez,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I hope it's a real tough game. It's too stressful.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: You don't. I want to learn about the middle of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: this team. I hope we blow these guys out.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%. That's a fan. Paul won't admit that he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: not a fan.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Or he just loves the drama.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: It's been.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, but still. It's been 30 years since he's been
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a fan.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: He's not watching as a fan. That's why I'm excited.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I'm working on a 96 podcast, and that was the
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: last time.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Paul was a super fan.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Just pure fan and... I'm excited to interview him because
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: he was so passionate about that season. He remembers so
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: much about it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: He's a different person when.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: He talks to you about that team. I'm like, this
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: is going to be weird in this edition of the podcast.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Usually I like to have a fan voice. Well, my
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: fan voice is going to be Paul Perel's.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: All right. Darius in Louisville. Just a couple things.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I know we turned the page of the Jets and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: got in a hurry, but it would have been so
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: awesome to see Balmort recover the fumble and ponder like
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he did for him a couple of weeks ago. Seeing
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: those guys on All Access really shows– the love and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: connection between them. So that would have been nice to see. Yesterday,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I said something about the run game, and Deuce immediately
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: pulled an Evan on me and went straight to the stats.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I was basing it on my eye test, like Pauly. Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Patriots 48, Jets 17. His eye test.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Of the 27th ranked DPA rush offense in football. That
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was the stat.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: That came up. I don't always go to the stats,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: but sometimes they back up. And I'm not saying that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: their running game is atrocious. Like it's just, it's been inconsistent.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: They've had flashes and I don't think that's uncommon early
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: in the season, you know?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's slightly improved each week.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: There were some holes last week, but I, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: it's still not again. And I, I caught some of
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: that Rams game against the bills where it's like, they
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: don't get touched for four or five yards downfield. I mean,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: it's like the C's part and that's, that's what you're
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: trying to get to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: The Rams ran a lot of duo. That's, that's their
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: number one run scheme. And it's a Patriots number one
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: run scheme too. And when you watch the two of
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: them running, yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Um, Chris from New Hampshire has a, question and a
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people had a similar question so we'll blend
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: them all into one and i'll just put it out
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: there how did and did uh last week may have
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to face cover six and how did he do against
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: it and do we think that he's got that figured.
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: Out yeah they they ran a couple of snaps of
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: it i think it was three total some of the
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: you know sometimes you it depends like some of it
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: looks like quarters and or cover two and it's actually
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: cover six so there's some like tough difficulties in terms
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: of tracking it. But the first, um, the first completion
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: he threw to Romeo Dobbs at 16 yard income was
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: a hundred percent cover six.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I think that we're sort of getting to the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: Point where, and I think I gave Nate Tice credit
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: for this on catch.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I think that it like, maybe that's a Seattle thing.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: That that's Seattle's bread and butter and Seattle's the best
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: defense in football. And so the numbers he's gotten up
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: against Seattle twice and, you know, a short span of
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: time and they run a lot of cover six. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: I'm starting to get to the point where it's like,
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: maybe these other teams, I don't think can execute cover six,
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: like Seattle can.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: So like maybe the fact that maze numbers were bad
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: against cover six was really maze numbers against the Seahawks
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: were bad, which is a lot of people's numbers against
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks defense are bad. Um, versus like, this is
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: an actual kryptonite for Drake may, or maybe some of
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: it's just that they've figured out some ways that they
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: know it's coming and they, they figured out some beaters
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: for it as well.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a little bit of both. Okay.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Um, all right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, eight, five, five past 500. Uh, let's go to
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Boston cream.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Who's on the line. What's up, Boston cream.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yo, yo donut. Hey guys.
• 36:24
  Speaker 13: What a game.
• 36:25
  Speaker 15: What jerseys?
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: What a city.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I had an absolute blast.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Um, Alex, you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 15: Already know you're the MVP. Thanks a lot.
• 36:33
  Speaker 13: And then I just want to say I like the
• 36:35
  Speaker 13: fact that this team is getting some adversity.
• 36:37
  Speaker 15: Yesterday, or last year, sorry, kind of felt like the
• 36:41
  Speaker 15: little brother that never got bullied, but.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: This year we're kind of like the eldest child who
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: is getting bullied and is going to grow up a
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: little tougher.
• 36:48
  Speaker 15: I will say I'm a little worried about our offensive line.
• 36:51
  Speaker 15: PFF has it as the sixth worst in the league,
• 36:54
  Speaker 15: which is fine because there's injuries, but.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 15: We're back to the scrappy Patriots.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Yeah. I mean, listen, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron adversity, all that stuff, Boston cream. So again,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you are learning about who you are early in the season.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You're learning what your depth is like early in the season,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's better to do that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: than later in the season. So Vrabel can have an
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: idea of who we can depend on later on. So,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at it with a silver
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: lining that way, and they're 3-2. If they were 1-4,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I might be thinking differently about that, but they're coming
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: out of this thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think sometimes early in the season you're just
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: trying to tread water, figure it out, find what you're
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: good at, find your team identity. I think it's happening
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: a little faster this year, especially on the defensive side
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: of the ball. Injuries, I think, have hurt the offense
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: a little more. But I'd also say, I think, just
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: a testament to Zach core being able to kind of
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: scheme around the injuries that they have, even though they
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: haven't quite been as big as the offense.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I'll stop there. Cause you know, we've heard this before
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: when teams go on runs early and it's like, it'd
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: be really better if they lost, you know, because I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: don't buy into that, you know, like if you're good
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and you win, you win. You know, these guys, all
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: these guys have lost in their careers. They know what
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: losing is like. So, you know, you don't have to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: have a loss to get, you know, keep them going.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: I think you see the rollercoaster early on for most teams.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Look at Seattle.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: They're in a little bit of a rollercoaster themselves. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: think they're still a good team, but it just takes
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: a little while to get your identity. You think you're
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the same team as you were last year, and I
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: think teams realize pretty quick, and they should know it
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: going in, most of them do, that you're not going
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: to be the same team, and you're going to have
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: to probably do it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I know there's some teams right now with really good records,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like the Vikings, but I don't look at anybody in
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: this league right now as dominant. Like, I don't think
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: there's a standout team yet.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, San Francisco is probably closest to it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: They have a bunch of interjuries themselves. And Kansas City
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: has played really well. Well, the fact that they're getting through,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the fact that they have the record they have with
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the injuries they have is testament to your guy.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: They did the same thing last year. It's almost like
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: he's a good coach.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: No, I'm interested with Kansas City and, you know, Kenneth Walker,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: how that continues. I mean, can they maintain that level
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: of run game?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: That's deadly.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, you give Drake May that run game. I mean,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: any good quarterback has a guy you can just hand
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: off to, and it might be a huge explosive play.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: But I think there's no team that's unbeatable. I think
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: they all have flaws in some way. Yeah.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Agree with that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: I think Kansas City's been impressive just kind of reinventing
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: themselves a little bit offensively, and you always respect Spags
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the ball. I don't think
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: their defense has been great, but I think that he
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: is great. So you always expect to get a good
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: game plan and a tough, chess match whenever you go
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: out up against Spag. So they've been pretty good. The
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: Niners obviously have been good. I agree with you about Minnesota, though.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, especially Kyler. Let's let's see post
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Thanksgiving Kyler. It is second half of his seasons. He
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: tends to fall off a cliff. So I'm interested to
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: see if he can maintain it. He couldn't in Arizona
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: every year. The splits were like. after Halloween, after Thanksgiving,
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: second half of the season, because he just breaks down physically.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Brandon's in Pennsylvania. What's up, Brandon?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Hey, you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: Guys.
• 40:23
  Speaker 15: Long-time listener, first-time caller.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? Good.
• 40:27
  Speaker 16: Hey, I love you guys all.
• 40:28
  Speaker 13: Listen to you all the time.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I have a couple things.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: There's two.
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: First things first, I know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 11: The biggest thing is I know a lot of people
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: hated on the team for a little bit there.
• 40:36
  Speaker 15: They're doing a lot better now.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It's great.
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: This is awesome.
• 40:39
  Speaker 15: The biggest thing is I know some people have a
• 40:41
  Speaker 15: hard time.
• 40:41
  Speaker 13: Realizing these guys do have a life.
• 40:43
  Speaker 16: You know, they're humans outside of the field.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I know Eli Raritan. I don't know if you guys
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: heard the news, but he had a loss.
• 40:49
  Speaker 15: And, you know, I pray for.
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: Him and his family.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing is these guys are players.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: They're humans and everything. You know, I appreciate everything they do.
• 41:01
  Speaker 17: And, you know, that's the thing, too.
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: You know, we're doing good now.
• 41:05
  Speaker 11: The thing I have a question about, though, is I
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: really want to support Eli Raritan, and I've been trying
• 41:09
  Speaker 11: to get my.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Hands on an Eli Raritan jersey that fits.
• 41:12
  Speaker 13: I've not been able to find.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: One that's a good quality.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys know something, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: being close.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: To the building.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get them made at the pro shop. Yeah,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: but he's in Pennsylvania. I think you can get them made.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Can you get– Fanatics doesn't sell custom jerseys that you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: can have made with the number you want and name?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: The problem is I'm looking for a stitched jersey, not
• 41:33
  Speaker 13: a vinyl.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. They don't do that?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 41:38
  Speaker 13: No, right now we're all sold out everywhere.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, well maybe why don't you leave your name and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: number with Matt. and maybe we can help you out.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Because I know here at the Pro Shop they do that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can help you out. I don't know if
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: they do that. I don't know about the stitch ones. Oh,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: they don't do the stitch ones?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't want to speak.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Fancy pants ones.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I've only ever gotten that. We'll look into that. We'll inquire.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe if somebody from the Pro Shop's listening, you can
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: email in and let us know if you do custom-stitched
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: authentic jerseys.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Or just have an Eli Raritan one. Yeah, or have
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a Raritan jersey.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, what size are you?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I just want to support him. I'm a large. Large.
• 42:19
  Speaker 15: If it's the elite jersey or something, it's going to.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Be a 44. Okay.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: That's actually, believe it or not, the larges are hard
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to find because everybody's a large.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's actually probably the hardest one to find.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: They run out.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Let's go to stay in Pennsylvania. We'll go to Patrick.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: What's up, Patrick? Hey. Hey, everyone.
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: First off, Duke did a hell of a job filling
• 42:39
  Speaker 16: in for Forrest on Catch-22.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I tried hard.
• 42:43
  Speaker 16: Earlier statement. You could have argued a bit more with
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: them and get them fired up, but.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I think Evan liked it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: The reason I'm actually calling is, looking ahead, it's funny enough,
• 42:55
  Speaker 16: this weekend is the Patriots' last 1 p.m. game in
• 42:58
  Speaker 16: Week 16.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 43:03
  Speaker 16: Last year, opponents aside, it felt like the team really
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: got into a groove, and maybe it was because of
• 43:07
  Speaker 16: a consistent schedule. Now, with littered 4 o'clock, West Coast, Germany, Monday,
• 43:13
  Speaker 16: Sunday night, Do you think that it could hurt the
• 43:17
  Speaker 16: momentum that the team seems to be building right now?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It could.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, or you could say that, you know, they
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: went on a run because of the opponents last year,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: or you could look at it, you know, you could
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: look at it as glass half full and say, you know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: because of the weird schedule coming up, it'll keep them focused.
• 43:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: It won't let them get into a, you know, kind
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: of a thing. It'll every week will be something different. And,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you know, they'll have to be alert to the schedule.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: They'll have to be on. you know, keeps them more focused, maybe.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you could look at it that way, too.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've got five games left in front of
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: a national audience. I mean, starting with the Bears on
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Thursday night. I mean, then they're in Munich, which is
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: also kind of a, you know, sustained international audience. Island
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: is the only game, right, is the only game. Thursday
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: night football with the Vikings, great. You know, Monday night
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: with the Chiefs. I think playing in those big national
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: games helps kind of offset, like, when you're just at
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: the 1 p.m., you're kind of under the radar a
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: little bit, but... And I understand what he's saying, but
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I think you're also, when you're playing on a national stage,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: especially those Vikings and Chiefs games, I think those are
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: going to be super impactful. That three-game stretch, Bills, Vikings,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: that Chiefs, that's going to be a huge stretch.
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: I also think the team just got so juiced for
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: those primetime games last year.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I would hope it would be the same this year.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Remember the energy last year? The rivalry game. Oh, my God.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Injected into my veins. It was so fun.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: This is something, like, when we got the schedule, I...
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: I think this is the hardest part about the schedule. Like,
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: I never really bought that, like, oh, this is a
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: much tougher schedule. I think the toughest part about this
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: schedule is that there's a lot of travel. There's a
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: lot of weird, like, Thursday night short games. And then
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: they go to Germany. Then they got to go to L.A.,
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: West Coast on Thanksgiving weekend. And, like, all these different
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: types of things. And I guarantee you, knowing Mike Vrabel
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: and Stretcher, they have thought about this a lot of, like,
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: how to kind of navigate the team through this now.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: There's a couple games, the Chargers flexing maybe.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: They could get flexed.
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's a couple teams on the schedule that
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: are in prime time right now that aren't necessarily, they're
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: not having great seasons. It's not the Patriots, it's them,
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: especially the Chargers one. But I think that is a
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: tricky part about this schedule here coming up. Selfishly, I
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: hate it as well. But I also, just looking at
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: it from their perspective, there's travel, there's weird times, there's
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: weird kickoff times, and I'm sure that Stretch and the
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: training staff and Vrabel are thinking a lot about that.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Time to take a break. You're going to get some tea, Evan?
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Get the tea?
• 45:51
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  Speaker 5: What was it like having AJ out there today and how.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Did he look?
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's awesome.
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: It's always, you know, it was a warm welcome in
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: the huddle to have him back in there. So, you know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 11: looking forward to You'll see him progress, and it's always
• 48:14
  Speaker 11: great seeing.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Him back out there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 11: I think you'd have to ask him how he felt,
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: but I think it's.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Good to see him back out there, that's for sure.
• 48:24
  Speaker 20: What's it been like being next to him in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 20: locker room and having a chance to pick his brain,
• 48:29
  Speaker 20: even though he hasn't been playing as much as he
• 48:30
  Speaker 20: would like lately?
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: No, he's a pro. I think you can see by
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: the way he carries himself, how well he cares about players,
• 48:38
  Speaker 11: and he's always– I've been impressed. You can kind of
• 48:42
  Speaker 11: see with how closely he's watching the games and the
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: little things he picks up on, you can tell he's
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: really watching and cares. Just a great teammate from what
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: I've experienced here with him. He's looking forward to getting back.
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: I know he's got a big smile. He's got a
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: contagious smile. It's good seeing that in the locker room.
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: I enjoy being near it every day.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: What can he bring to the offense?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: What can he add to the offense?
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: I mean, I think you know where you're going to end.
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: I mean, he's been a player in this league. It's
• 49:09
  Speaker 11: not like we haven't seen him, you know, been a
• 49:12
  Speaker 11: player in this league. So, he's– there's not many like
• 49:16
  Speaker 11: him that roam around in this league.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So, I'll just try to do my best.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: To give him some chances and keep on spreading the
• 49:21
  Speaker 11: ball around for guys that are open.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: And we've had a lot of guys step up.
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: So looking forward to keeping that kind of rolling and
• 49:26
  Speaker 11: adding in another piece whenever he feels like he's ready
• 49:30
  Speaker 11: to get out there.
• 49:31
  Speaker 16: When you have a.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Guy like that on the field, when you talk about
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: spreading the ball around, typically a lot of defenses will
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: focus more on A.J.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Given what he can do.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Does that almost like help the other receivers?
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: Do you feel like it can just, they could be
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: more open potentially with having a guy like that?
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: I think it definitely, I think it definitely opens up,
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: you know, other parts of the field and other parts
• 49:49
  Speaker 11: of the game for guys. I think you see it
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: in the NBA, you know, almost it's probably the closest
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: thing that I can think of, you know, when they
• 49:55
  Speaker 11: start doubling the best player once they get past half
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: court and then they're just leaving a corner three open
• 50:01
  Speaker 11: or leaving a guy open for a dunk. So that's
• 50:03
  Speaker 11: kind of how we're playing receiver and with a guy
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: like that. And we've got a lot of guys that
• 50:06
  Speaker 11: have made plays now. So it's going to be, tough
• 50:09
  Speaker 11: on defenses, but I know we had a tough challenge
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: this week. So, looking forward to it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: What stands out for you the most about that?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're physical. I think they're tenacity.
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: I think they got a, they kind of got a,
• 50:18
  Speaker 11: you know, I wouldn't say a new kind of, you know, ferociousness, but,
• 50:23
  Speaker 11: you know, from last year, you can kind of see
• 50:25
  Speaker 11: it on tape, the difference. They had a little, you know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: some new faces, some mentality. I think they're buying into
• 50:29
  Speaker 11: really what, you know, Coach Glenn, how he wants to
• 50:31
  Speaker 11: play defense. And I think that you respect that. You
• 50:33
  Speaker 11: can see that on film. It pops out to you. So,
• 50:35
  Speaker 11: they do a good job on the back end of
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: mixing it up and, and also getting on you and
• 50:38
  Speaker 11: grabbing you and playing physical. So you can see that
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: they kind of are building something on defense, and it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: really a show this year with how they played. It
• 50:47
  Speaker 11: seems like we've seen more wrinkles from the offense in
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: the past couple weeks, like you need formations and motion.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Is it intentional to start the year with more of
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: like a foundational kind of offense, I would guess, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: then build on it?
• 50:56
  Speaker 13: And what's that like for you when you do start
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: to see the different layers of the offense kind of build?
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you have to have a core that you–
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: kind of lean on and kind of go back to
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: kind of some of your bread and butter plays. And
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: then also at the same time, you've got to be
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: able to change it up, mix it up, kind of
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: add new looks and build off those looks. And I
• 51:11
  Speaker 11: think that's one of the best things about our coaching
• 51:12
  Speaker 11: staff and what they do and what Coach McDaniels has
• 51:15
  Speaker 11: done in his career. He's got every little tool in
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: the toolbox to bring out. So I think some of
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: those things are nice to change it up and kind
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: of keep the defense on their heels. And at the
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: same time, some of our bread and butter plays are
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: stuff that we know best and can run best.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: In terms of spreading the ball around, is this something
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: that you're consciously trying to establish in this offense, or
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: is it more about defense to dictate where the ball goes?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to.
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: You'll have that in the back of my mind. I've been,
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: you know, I was like that a little bit in
• 51:45
  Speaker 11: high school, to be honest with you, of, you know, wanting,
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: you know, especially when we would run it up on
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: teams in high school to try to spread it around
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: and get guys' touches. But at this level, I'm just
• 51:53
  Speaker 11: trying to, you know, whatever defense feels like, It gives
• 51:55
  Speaker 11: us opportunities to make plays. I'm trying to make the
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: first guy open. It's what Coach Rabel always says, keep
• 52:00
  Speaker 11: it that simple. First guy open, throw it to him, and.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Let him run.
• 52:03
  Speaker 11: I've been trying to buy into that. I'm just trying
• 52:06
  Speaker 11: to find positive plays. I feel like we've done that
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: these past couple weeks. If you've really seen that in
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: the running game, kind of build into the passing game
• 52:12
  Speaker 11: and the play action.
• 52:13
  Speaker 20: You obviously haven't had many game reps with A.J., but
• 52:16
  Speaker 20: even in practice, is it hard? not to want to
• 52:19
  Speaker 20: funnel targets his way, just knowing what his resume is
• 52:21
  Speaker 20: and everything he's done in this league. Is that something
• 52:24
  Speaker 20: you might have to kind of contend with whenever he
• 52:26
  Speaker 20: does play again?
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: I think it's the natural flow of the game. I
• 52:28
  Speaker 11: think he understands it. He understands it could be early on.
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: It could be really early and it could be later.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: In the game.
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: I think he understands that and he understands the offense.
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: And I think Coach McDaniels is one of the best.
• 52:38
  Speaker 11: He's done it with a bunch of these players, a bunch.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Of guys at this level.
• 52:42
  Speaker 11: And just knowing that personnel and what we do on offense,
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: we've got to be able to you know, still in all,
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: you know, all phases of the game. You can't just
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: kind of, you go out there and drop back and say,
• 52:52
  Speaker 11: you know, where's AJ and let it rip. But at
• 52:54
  Speaker 11: the same time, sometimes you can't.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: We saw Chris in on the field today for the
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: first time in a couple of weeks. What's it like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: getting a chance to go again, go up against him
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: once again?
• 53:03
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: Guns was one of my favorite players to watch. You know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 11: I love competing against him. Um, we've, um, we've had
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: some battles and he's, um, he's fun to throw at.
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: And I think it's one of the coolest things to
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: see him, you know, go up against other players and
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: that challenge and how smooth and, um, I always try
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: to help him give me some extra swag. He doesn't
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: like my swag, but it's always nice seeing Gonzo back
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: out there. Afton's made some tough catches over the last
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: couple weeks. What's that do for a quarterback where you
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: feel like you can kind of throw it anywhere and
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: he's going.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: To come down?
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: He's a confidence builder. Like I said, the one in
• 53:33
  Speaker 11: Buffalo before, the one-hander, the one over the middle, jumping up.
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: He made another one last week. Bull's confidence is going
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: high over the middle. That's something that you don't love
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: to see come out high over the middle. When you
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: see a guy go up and make a play and
• 53:46
  Speaker 11: You know, Max liked that the same way. I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 11: it's just, you know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It's trust.
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: It builds trust, and it builds for me to let
• 53:52
  Speaker 11: it rip and fire it in there.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And now, great moments in history.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Manny's in Manchester, New Hampshire. What's up, Manny? Manny Chester.
• 54:03
  Speaker 13: I was listening to yesterday's podcast. At one point in time,
• 54:07
  Speaker 13: Paul called, no, a mediocre coach.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, no, no, no.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: No, I did not. Stop it.
• 54:14
  Speaker 13: Yes, you did.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Stop it.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: You're embarrassing yourself.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: I did not call Bill a mediocre coach. I'm sorry.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: It was taken out of context. That's like Fred said
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: that he doesn't think that Mac Jones is very good.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: That's not what he meant. It was something about something different.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: I've never thought of Bill as a mediocre coach, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: I've never said that he's a mediocre coach.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: I might have said something like this, if you want
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: to listen. He's had eight-plus years without Tom Brady as
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: his quarterback, and in those years, he's been a mediocre coach.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: That's what you said. That's what I said.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I remember that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: Oh, that's what I was referring to.
• 54:53
  Speaker 15: It's like you called him a mediocre coach then.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Without Tom Brady. Without Tom Brady. Very important qualifier.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: There, Manny.
• 54:59
  Speaker 15: Well, I think then everybody's a mediocre coach because they
• 55:02
  Speaker 15: don't have Tom Brady then.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid's not a mediocre coach.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good point, Carla.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from Patriots Unfiltered. All right, back
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: here on Patriots Unfiltered, 855-PATS-500 is the hotline podcast at Patriots.com.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: But, Deuce, you have some information.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: It's time for the co-pilot question of the week presented
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: by Microsoft Co-Pilot, where every day is game day and
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: where every decision is powered by insight and innovation. Microsoft
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: technology helps to make decisions faster, insight sharper, and strategies
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: more efficient. Adaptive. So, guys, we're talking about the Jets
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: this week. I don't have a question for Paul, so
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask Evan this one.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: The Patriots did go on a 15-game win streak against
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: the Jets. They did not lose to them from 2016
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: until 2023. They did lose two games in the mid-2000s,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: one of which was to Geno Smith. Do you recall
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: which two games those were that they lost in between?
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: And those losses came in between 2011 and 2016. 2011
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: and 2016.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Remember the Geno Smith one? That was in overtime. What
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: year was that?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Ooh, 2014, 2015?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to go back and, like, what stage of
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: my life was I in when that happened?
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: These were both overtime wins for the Jets, too, by
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: the way. I definitely remember the Geno one. You might
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: remember a certain defensive lineman I think got called on a.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: On a field goal attempt, I think for like pushing
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Joe Villano.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Was that, that was that one?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Not Joe, Chris Jones. I think the other, the other guy,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: not our, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: I vaguely remember that. I definitely remember the Gino one though. That,
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: that game, that stunk.
• 56:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: That was a tough one.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: What year was the, uh, uh, Bart Scott?
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, can't wait. That was the playoff game. 2010 playoff game.
• 56:48
  Speaker 15: 2010.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: It tore our hearts out.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Mark Sanchez played the game of his life, but, A
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: couple other interesting things, though, I thought were, of course,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick hated the Jets, dominated the Jets, lost his
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: last game in the Patriots coach to the Jets for
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: the first time in a while. Of course, the Jets
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: had two wins there in 2024 from January in the
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: 2023 season and then September in the 2024 season. But
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: the Patriots are now again on a three-game win streak.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: So no question, Patriots 77-56-1. against these Jets. And they're,
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: like I said, three wins straight against this team. Looking
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: to make a fourth this weekend. So there you go.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: A little deep dive into the Patriots-Jets rivalry with Copilot.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Sounds good.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Back to the emails and back to the calls. We
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: got a lot of each. Let's go to Sean in Vancouver.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: What's up, Sean?
• 57:41
  Speaker 15: I want to throw my two cents into the blowout versus.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: The close game.
• 57:47
  Speaker 15: Argument okay now I'm I'm a Patriots fanatic I've been
• 57:51
  Speaker 15: rooting for this team for over 50 years before the
• 57:53
  Speaker 15: game I always want them to blow out the team
• 57:56
  Speaker 15: I'm dreaming of like sacks and touchdowns and interceptions fumble
• 58:03
  Speaker 15: recoveries I I just want them to win like 70
• 58:06
  Speaker 15: to nothing right but when I'm watching and when I'm
• 58:09
  Speaker 15: watching the game and it's a blowout I'm relaxed I'm
• 58:13
  Speaker 15: putting the lazy boy up. I'm leaning back. I'm sending
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: messages to my friends, joking around. It's a good time.
• 58:22
  Speaker 15: It's fun. But when it's a close game and it's
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: a good game, I'm pacing. I'm standing up out of
• 58:29
  Speaker 15: the chair. I'm just praying that the Patriots are going
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: to succeed. And it's really tense. And I'm very, very
• 58:38
  Speaker 15: much on edge.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: It's very.
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: exciting. And like that bills game to me is like
• 58:43
  Speaker 15: an instant classic where, you know, a game like, uh,
• 58:48
  Speaker 15: what they had against the Raiders. Um, you know, after
• 58:51
  Speaker 15: that game, I can, um, I can go on and, and,
• 58:55
  Speaker 15: and do other things that my mind's off of it, but,
• 58:57
  Speaker 15: but on, on a close loss of man, like the
• 59:00
  Speaker 15: Seattle game, I can't, I can't sleep. But after like, uh,
• 59:03
  Speaker 15: the Jaguars game an hour later, I'm in the airport, uh,
• 59:06
  Speaker 15: writing an article. I can, I can go back to work.
• 59:08
  Speaker 13: I could do lots of things.
• 59:09
  Speaker 15: So it's, that's, I think where, where Paul coming from,
• 59:13
  Speaker 15: like where it's, it's a really close game. There's, there's
• 59:17
  Speaker 15: a lot that, that gets me emotionally and just gets
• 59:21
  Speaker 15: me excited into the game where I love them and
• 59:25
  Speaker 15: winning anyway, but I also love a huge victory, a blowout,
• 59:29
  Speaker 15: but it's just way easier.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 59:30
  Speaker 15: So I'll leave you at that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you're human.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not going to deny that a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: game like the 2018 AFC championship. She's one of the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: greatest AFC championship games ever played.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: What a thrill.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: You would have rather blown them out. I wouldn't be
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: unhappy if they blow them out. Listen, one or two
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: games a year like that, fine. But I'd rather have
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: 15 games where I blow out my opponent and two...
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: real close games like that than the other way around.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I want to just lay waste to whoever I'm playing.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 9: It is less memorable that way, though.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure. 100%.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Sure, they all blend into each other.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because of trauma.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: But what.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: The 2018 AFC Championship game, it's like my Roman Empire.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: I think about it like once a day.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 18: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, that was the greatest sport event I've ever
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: been to.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it will ever be topped.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Like....
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Those types of games, definitely. But at the same time,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: you're also kind of pooping your pants a little bit
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: as you're watching it. Like, oh, God, please don't blow this.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Think about all the plays that if they just didn't
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: get that one play in the fourth quarter, it's over.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: I saw Edelman talking about the punt that he made.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: he didn't touch it or did he, you know, like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: D Ford offsides, like these little things, like no doubt,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: Alex is right. That that'd make that stands out in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: your mind way more than a blowout.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I looked at some of the biggest blowouts in
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Patriots history. I think we all remember one of them
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: is very memorable. Do you remember which one it was?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: The snow game, the snow game, the 59 and nothing
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: against the Titans.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That one was memorable weather. Just a crazy blood.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: A couple other ones that 2012, the bills 52 to 28, uh,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: 2019 with Antonio Brown, 43-0 over the Dolphins.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: The Brian Flores Dolphins.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: 1977, Fred, I don't know if you were a Jets
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: fan at that point, but they lost 56-3 to the Patriots.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: And one more, the 07 team, the 56-10 at Buffalo.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Remember that one with Randy Moss?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: That was snow, too.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: That was, yeah.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like they were in their silver uniforms. I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: I have a picture of Randy Moss down the side.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I thought that was also in the snow, but maybe not.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Franklin and Baltimore, no one can tell me during the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: stretch in the 2000s when the real Super Bowl was
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: the regular season Brady versus Manning matchup that those games
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: weren't exhilarating. Yes, they did shave off years of every
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Patriots fan's life, but they were also the litmus test
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: of how good the team was prior to the playoffs. And,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of course, when the Patriots won, it made you, as
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a fan, all the more invested in the bragging rights.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: All right, but let's take the same scenario. Both teams
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: are doing really well. the Colts and the Patriots, and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: it's Brady versus Manning. What if Brady blows them out
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: in those games?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's even better.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: You know, now you played the best and you blew
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: them out. Isn't that as much a litmus test as
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: a close game would be?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: I think, was it 20-3? Was that the 0-3 score?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, which was a blowout? I mean, especially for
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: a team that didn't punt going into that game.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: We all remember that.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: The games that always stand out to me and those
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: are William McGinnis is goal line.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Stop that one in, in the, in Indy.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: And then I was at, uh, the 2013 Broncos game,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: the 24 to three comeback.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: And that, that was, uh, also until 28 to three happened.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: That was, I think the biggest comeback in Patriots history.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: And, uh, that was a, that was a great, great game. And, um,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: I think it was Welker, right? He fumbled muff, the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: punt or something like that. Coming back to new.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: England and muff, the pun see new life.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: And, Bill letting no Sean Moreno does run the ball
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: at will because he.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: Didn't want Peyton throwing. And that was a great kind
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: of an Edelman breakout game too. I remember getting a touchdown,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: spiking it, diving into the end zone.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: It's funny though.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Like in your memory, like listening to you talk about
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: it on the same way, like you just have these
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: flashes of moments. Like you say a play and like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: three flashes go through my mind of like just memorable plays,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: like being so invested in it back then. And I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: was about to say to like, I definitely get less
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: invested than I did as a fan, but I felt
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: like that Chargers playoff game last year, I felt kind
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: of like I had my fan juice going because I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: just wanted to beat the Chargers so bad. I didn't
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: want to lose that game. You know, just win one
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: playoff game, prove that you're still above this Chargers team.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: And I think I even surprised Paul when... When Drake
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: threw that touchdown to Hunter Henry, that was just gorgeous.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like pushed back out of my seat.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: I don't really show a lot of emotion, but I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: got emotional in that game. That was fun.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like if you win that game in
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: a blowout, afterwards you can sit back and their entire
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: fan base just has to shut up. They have nothing
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: to say. There's no bad call that they can say
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the ref made. That was the difference or turnover or
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: some crazy play. Like decisively you lay waste to them and–
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: You shut them up.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's like Kansas City fans bring up Dee Ford being.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Offside all the time. Right.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: Well, no offense or anything, but he was offside. So, like,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: that's what the rule is.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: But, you know, they always say, like, the Patriots didn't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: win that game. The refs handed it to them, that.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Sort of stuff. The Raiders still say it was a fumble.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady kind of admitted it was. That was probably
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: a fumble.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: That was more a fumble than Dee Ford not being offside.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: You mentioned, like, the Edelman– Didn't really touch. There's a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: few of those plays too.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Alec in Berlin.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Last week we talked about Evans' lackluster NFL game predictions
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and the possibility that he misuses NFL stats to pick
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: his games. He claimed to not have time to watch games,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: pay attention to stats of other teams, as well as
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: other excuses. I'm sure Fred has even less time, yet
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: still is a legend for his feel for the game. Anyway,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I believe I gave a solution for our quantitative challenge analyst,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: For the fun of it, I used AI to pick
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: last week's game, including picks against the spread. The picks
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: went 10-3-1 straight up and 8-6 against the spread. Nice.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: So I can just put it in the copilot and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: I don't have to do this?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's all in good fun. I'm enjoying Evan's transformation
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: into Scal's true replacement. The program benefits from Scal-like characters,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: especially in the offseason. And dear Matt, you promised to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: send me a shirt last season and never arrived. I've
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: sent you my home address before. I'll send it again.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Semper Fi.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: I would say out of all of the things that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: we do, all of the different pieces of content, Pix
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: is the least important one to me.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it shouldn't be important. It's just fun.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: So I like that suggestion because I can just feed
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: it into Copilot and then I can just hand it
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: to Paul on Thursdays and be like, Here are my picks.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I'm out. Thank you.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: Our marketing team should sell that to Microsoft. This newsletter
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: segment sponsored by Copilot. Evan's picks from via Copilot.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Picks by Copilot.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: That's risky, though.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Chris with a T-I-A-N writes in, Paul Lowe's blowouts. I mean,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: what would he have to talk about with his brother
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: on his trek home if the Patriots blow out the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Jets on Sunday? He needs the game to be close
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: because he needs something to complain about. He'd rather complain
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: about the refs or talk about how the running game
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: was not efficient, even though the team rushed 27 times
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: for 166 yards. But 82 of those yards came on
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: two plays, and the other 25 rushes only averaged 3.36
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: yards per carry.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: My favorite part about those are like, that's the point
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: of the running game. The point of the running game
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: is that you run it and eventually you break one.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: That's literally why you run the ball.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: It's like, I understand what, you know, people say when
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: they say that, but they say it about Travion Henderson
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: all the time. They're like, well, if you take out
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: his 65 yard touchdown run and it's like one yard
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: to carry, it's kind of, that's the whole point.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: You can't just take them out.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: That's kind of his thing.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Darius from Louisville. Hearing Drake's presser again makes me really
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: hate the questions you guys ask. I know it's not
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: you specifically, but good Lord, it grinds my gears. Taylor
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: and Evan are two of the few guys who ask
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: real questions, even if they won't get answered all the way.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: But come on now. These questions about AJ are ridiculous.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Then they ask the same questions to every player.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Do better. do better.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, but most of these guys
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: are asking for TV. They have a two-minute segment and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: it's mixed up with all the other sports going on. Celtics, Bruins.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: They have to get right to the big headline. All
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: they need is sound about a guy talking about A.J.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: It's frustrating, but that's all they need. They don't care
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: about going in depth and the way tyler and evan
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: you know want to do yeah i don't have to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: I think that there's a there's two different like priorities
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: at a press conference like taylor and i are trying
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: to learn from the guys and from the coaches i
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: would say.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of people though are there to do a job.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 7: And their job the headline of the day is that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: a.j brown was back at practice right so they're writing
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 7: an article or they're writing doing a news hit or
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: something like that about a.j brown being back at practice
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: so those are questions that In a lot of ways,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: it's kind of like polishing silverware. Like you just you
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: have to ask those questions and you have to get
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: Drake Mays take on A.J. Brown being back at practice
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: or you're not doing your job properly.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: There's also people are just compelled to ask questions for
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: some reason.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: I know where you're going with that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: There's also people like I don't think anyone reporting on.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: A story, there's certain questions you're not going to ask
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 9: in a press conference because you don't want all the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: other reporters to then have it and jump you on
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: what you're working on. So then there's a lot of
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 9: locker room stories that get worked on that people aren't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: really hearing those questions being asked to.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the podium press conferences are a lot more fun.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Surface level.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's go to, back to the hotline. We'll go
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: to Joe in Sweden. Joe in Sweden. Sweden.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: What's up, guys?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 13: Hey. Hey, it's Joe Kim.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Joe Kim. Joe Kim.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, second time caller. I called in, I think it
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: was 14 years ago.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: I wasn't even born.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: I remember Andy made fun of me, so I've been
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: mad for 14 years, and here I am calling again.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a common theme with Andy Hart, for sure.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: He didn't like my accent.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: That's not right.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 15: It's okay.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Bad Paul isn't there. I think yesterday he kind of
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: poo-pooed Andy. the pass rush, and it got me thinking
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: about Elijah Ponder. Like, Evan, what was the scouting report
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: on him exactly? Because I think he's been really, really good,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: like really good.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: I needed you yesterday on this.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: So I heard a couple of these things, the blowout conversation.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: Of course, I'm sick one day and all this stuff
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: happens that I missed.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you calling this because I kind of, like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: Pushed back on Paul a little bit. I was terrified
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: when I did it, of course. But, no, I just
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: think Ponder and Nackis are good. And he was like, well,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: I just haven't seen him set the edge that well.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Paul rarely thinks anybody's good until it's proven. He won't
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: go on a limb, usually, to say, I think he's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: going to be good.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so we were talking about those two guys the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: other day. We actually clipped it for one of our shorts,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: and I undersold Ponder. He's on pace for 15 sacks,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: not 12. He was 12 last week, and then he
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: had two in the game against the Raiders, one of
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: them being a strip sack. So I would say it's
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: not like they're the best edge group in the league.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: I just think that they have outperformed expectations quite a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: bit to start the season. So maybe there's a little
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: bit of truth to being in the middle where Paul is, maybe,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: because it's not.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: And I did the story on them last week, and
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: this was before the Raiders game.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 12: They were 15th.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Uh, as a group and pressure rate.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: So they're right in the middle of the pack, but
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: we thought that they were going to be like bottom
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: five in the league, not.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Middle of the pack.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: So like the fact that they've gotten that, it's really
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: been just those three guys, Draymond Jones, Atkinson, Paul.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Can anything else?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Don't wait for it.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: And thank you for having a better, uh, A phone connection,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: even though you're from Sweden, then Christian in L.A.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: And what I was kind of pushing back on Paul
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: was just that I'm not trying to tell you that
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: this is like DeMarcus Ware and Vaughn Miller.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: It's just guys who play really well within the defense.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: And this is, oh, by the way, a rookie who's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: been playing for like two months now and a second-year
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: guy that was just a designated pass rusher last year.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: So I'm just encouraged that these guys look solid. They
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: play within the scheme. uh they don't look like they're
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: out of position is it perfect no i think ponder's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: got a little ways to go no mary is in
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: space but that's a common development from a guy who
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: went to cal poly and now is you know probably
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: was nothing more than a hand down go get the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: quarterback guy um and i just love watching akis play
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: i just think it's so fun to put that guy
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: on and it's like oh they're gonna try to block
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: him with a tight end play you know yeah i
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: could watch his the other thing about paul is like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: If fans start getting excited about a new guy, he
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't like that.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: He wants to bring you down. He doesn't like fans, period.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: He's like a magnet, I feel like, though. Whatever force
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: he feels kind of building, he flips and goes the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: opposite way.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Especially if it's positive and it's fans. He doesn't think...
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he understands what it means to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: be a fan. Fans get excited about their guys, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: they want to be positive and hopeful. The future's bright
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and everything, and then you have the big letdown if
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: it isn't. I don't know if he's afraid to be
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: let down or if he just doesn't want fans to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: be happy.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: Somewhere he's in a hospital waiting room right now.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: And I know we're, yeah, I know we're like psychoanalyzing Paul.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: At least it's not me.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: So like, it's not him. You're next.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: But I, I, I really think it's the, I, I,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: I think when the more and the longer that you
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: do this job, the more detached you get from being
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 7: a fan.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: Like a true fan. And I feel like you just
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: sort of forget what it was like to like, watch
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: like a young Chandler Jones, like starting to come on
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: as a rookie.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: And like, you know, that's my era. So that's why
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: I thought of Chandler Jones.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: Like, that that's like how I, the piece of me
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: feels watching Gabe Ackes, like different kinds of players. But like,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: I just, when I watch Ackes, I just get super excited.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this guy is a fricking animal. Like, and like,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: if you can just teach him some of like the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: hand placement and the techniques and giving him some more
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: tricks up his sleeve and year two and year three,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 7: like he's just going to take off. And I think
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: that maybe that, that excitement level is missed on Paul
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: just because he's not, he's removed from it.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I, you know, like
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: he is like, With Northeastern. He claims he's a huge
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: fan of Northeastern, but he badmouths them left and right.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the right of a fan, to badmouth
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: the team.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: But when you're looking at it from an objective... impartial
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: way all the time.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: But fans aren't objective. They're fanatics.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: But he's not a fan. He's a reporter. That's my point.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't report on Northeastern. I know, but he
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: can't help himself.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: He loves Marcus Jones. He's playing his flag with Marcus Jones.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: That's true. He loves him some Marcus Jones.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: He loves really good athletes, I think. He despises try-hard guys.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's what it is with Akis. Maybe it's because
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: he's a motor player.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: He tries too hard. It's just like... I think it
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: started with Spike Owen.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Akis is also a genetic freak, too.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: He doesn't really.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of his plays, though, are, like, hustle, like,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: just straight-up sheer power and, like, things like that that, like, aren't...
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: You know, Ponder, though, is, like, Ponder is one of the... Like,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: he's got a great speed rush.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: He's got the dip.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Like, he's got bend around the edge.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: He's around the ball. He's making plays.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 7: And I like that they complement each other well, too. Like,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: Akis is more of, like, a sturdy power player at...
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: Ponder gets off the ball, has got great speed.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: They have a nice one-two thing going. You got all
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: three of these guys for the next season.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I think you guys are underestimating Akis' speed. I think
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: he gets off the ball pretty well, too. He's a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: speed-to-power guy. Speed-to-power.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: My new favorite thing is like, It's going to be
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: a recurring TV show every week. They tried to block
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: Akis with a tight end.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: You know, just cut the tape up. Poor Michael Mayer.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Michael Mayer.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Kincaid.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Was it Kincaid, I think, too? It was just like, oh!
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 18: This is a lot.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: This is a lot.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: You're trying really hard right now.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: There's his blind side, too, so you just see Kirk
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: just fall.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, there he is.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Falls on TV right now.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Repeat from Michael Mayer, too, by the way.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: You were a big.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Fan of him.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: You had a little Michael Mayer crush at the combine
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: a couple years ago.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: He was like one of those, like, this guy's going
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: to be a senator or something someday.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: You say that because you think he's going to see
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: your impression of him.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's watching.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Making fun of Michael Mayer. Anthony writes in, seeing Deuce
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: fill in for Barth on Catch-20 Deuce made me want
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to see P.U.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Have Barth as a guest when he's back.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Would love to see the dynamic. That'd be a great crossover.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's done it once. I think it was
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: one of.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: The Thursday Night Football travel games.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: That Fred and I.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Skeleton Crew show.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't... I feel like I remember Fred saying, no,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: stick around, and then Fred put him under the.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Put him under the hot lights.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Started grilling him about. Then made fun of him.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: He has to quarantine for a little bit.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 13: I mean.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I almost knocked me out with him.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: How long does strep take to get over?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: A couple.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 19: Really?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That poor kid.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Is he on medication?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Like what kind?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Antibiotics. But, yeah. Tylenol?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Got to be on antibiotics.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Is it an antibiotic or something? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: I hope so. I mean, you just know, if Alex
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: Barth isn't at a thing during football season, it's serious.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: He's got to be careful, though.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Strep's dangerous.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I'll give my wife credit because.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: I texted him this morning to see if he was
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: going to be up for Catch-22, and Jess was like, Evan,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: he's not doing the show.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Who's his backup at 98.5?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance he could get Wally Pippen? That's true.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 7: Maybe Ty or Matt Dollop is going to come in
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: and take his spot.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Back to the phones we go.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Ryan's in Virginia. What's up, Ryan?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 13: Hey, how y'all doing today?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 14: Good.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 13: So I want to call in because I'm actually calling to,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: I'm going to make this as a joke about Christian
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 13: and LA. I agree that we should bench Drake May
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 13: in the sense that when we're up three scores in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 13: the fourth quarter, I don't want him out there. We've
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 13: had an injury-ridden season as it is. I don't want
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 13: to risk our quarterback in a completely meaningless point in
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 13: the game. Let me see some more Tommy Cutlets. Put
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 13: him out there. Let's see what he can do. And
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 13: let's see if he can not blow a 20-point lead.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: Other than that, I'm really stoked about blowouts. I think
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 13: it's a better game for me to sit back and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 13: watch every single time we score the ball. I'd like
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: to never see our punch play again, if we could. And, yeah, man,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 13: I just wanted to put.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: That out there. I thought it was a funny joke. Okay. Thanks, Ryan.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Well, funny enough.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Good stuff.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a career in stand-up,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: but I like the effort. Speaking of the man, it's
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Christian in L.A.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: What up?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 13: Oh, boy.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: You got a strap?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: You sick, too?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: How's my connection today?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's good.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, Deuce, you may know this.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 15: When you're in L.A.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: And you're in the hills and valleys, sometimes your connection
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 10: isn't great.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Heck, yeah.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 17: So that's that.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 10: And I feel like, Deuce, you'll get this one, too.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: Between Tanaka in Japan yesterday and this gentleman today, I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: feel like the guy from.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 13: Three Amigos when he goes, oh, we're infamous. What's that? Oh,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 13: we're infamous.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: Oh, so I'm infamous. Anyway, anyway, Fred, how could you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: be surprised about Paul? Here is a man that loves
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: to be miserable. I mean, for God's sake, here's a
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: guy that does not even know the joy of watching
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. A single movie, not one. So
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 10: it makes sense that he would want to be on
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: edge and involved in close games where he might lose
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: because that is the closest to misery he can get
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: while watching football. So it's no surprise that Paul feels
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: the way he does for me. The perfect solution would
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: be we win close games against the teams that we
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: were supposed to blow out, and we blow out teams
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: that we were supposed to lose to.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 13: That would be awesome if we had a season like that.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Okay.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 13: I'll talk to you guys later.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Christian.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: That was a pretty tame call for Christian. Well, Paul's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: not here to fight with him. He's not inspired to.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: And he had a good connection.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe....
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: The worst connection is the worst his calls are.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's a tie in.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: You can't hear all his solid takes.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Jack in Ann Arbor has a hot take here.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Hot take. I'm not sure it's a legal seafood fresh take.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: But it could be a hot take. He claims, or
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: he thinks, Accus is better than Chandler Jones.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 16: Oh.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not ready to go there.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go there yet either.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Chandler Jones had a really good career in Arizona.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: He was a three down defensive end right out of
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: the gate. I mean, that, you know, exactly what that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: Patriots team needed. But I, I enjoy watching Ackis more.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say maybe Chandler Jones was more
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: productive and all around kind of a guy, but. the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: energy that gay back is plays with. It's just so,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: so fun to watch.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh, Claire writes in, uh, hello everybody. Hello Marine. Uh,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: if you find out about the Raritan stitch Jersey, I'm
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: another fan that would be interested. Um, as for fanatics,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know about, uh, in the U S but
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: unfortunately in the UK fanatics is not that good, not
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: the greatest for customer service and is very expensive. Oh,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Getting quality apparel can be super tough, so any info
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: you guys find out is welcomed.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: I used to, in my days, I would take to eBay.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: I was an eBay master, and there's a lot of, like,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: I have a stitched white.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Morrell, do me a favor.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Send an email to Jim Scullins and ask him, do
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: we make authentic custom jerseys? Stitched, you know, stitched authentic
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: custom jerseys. Let's try to get an answer during the show.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: But I found on eBay, you know, sometimes you're, Right.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Caution to the way you're taking a risk ordering off eBay.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: But I got a white Brady jersey and it's awesome.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the real deal. So I think that's.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: The way to go now. ebay a nice classic piece.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Well china's where you get like a like yeah.
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  Speaker 9: You get a cheap jersey to wear to a darty
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: on a saturday at your college.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Campus like this big on the back yeah that's what
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: i when we started talking about china alex has got
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: it no you gotta you hold your breath when you
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: open it that's why with that brady one i was
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: like all right let's see because you might have like
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: microscopic number you don't know but.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: It was like it was legit they look perfect no
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: if you want like your like shane falco jersey or
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: something like that some movie or whatever they get you
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: on social media though there's a lot of companies like
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: advertising cheap jerseys like yeah because it is they are
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: super expensive.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 19: Yeah okay a lot of blowout versus close game really
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 19: it's very people are very interested uh ben writes in
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 19: I was listening to yesterday's podcast today.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I got a little frustrated with the discussion you and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Paul had. I think Paul was equating blowouts with games
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: where the other team is simply bad. He kept saying,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I want to earn it, and I just don't want
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: to hand it to you. But I think that's a
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: poor characterization of blowouts. There are two types, when the
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: other team is bad and continuously makes mistakes, and two,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: when our team is firing on all cylinders and thoroughly
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: dominating an otherwise good team. I find that second type
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: of game incredibly entertaining. The team is playing to its
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: full potential, not because the other team is making mistakes,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: but because we're just that good. Those games aren't a
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: case of the team not earning it. In fact, I'd
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: argue those are.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: The games where they earn it the most.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: When both the offense and defense are dominating a good team,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: you get to see the Patriots at their full potential,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: and that's exciting to watch. I get Paul's point that
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: close games are entertaining because they're They're more thrilling. But
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: watching the Patriots put together a complete three-phase game against
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: a strong opponent and dominate them gives me just as
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: much joy. Saying those wins are just handed to the
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: team and that they didn't earn it feels a bit disingenuous.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I kept saying that during the discussion. I said, you're
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: changing the argument. That's not what we're saying.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Obviously.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: If the team stinks, it's not entertaining. They just do
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: it to each other, though. It's like, you're moving the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: goalposts again.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: I would say one of my favorite Patriots blowouts was
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: the 2004 AFC Championship game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. When
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: they came out and it was like, you know, we
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: were expecting a tough game. They had already lost there. And, man, like,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: and Brady was sick, too. Remember when I'm talking about that?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: And then that, like, throw to, you know, end around
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: the Dion branch right out of the gate. Deep pass
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: to him to close it out. That was a lot
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: of fun.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of examples.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: I can't think of one off the top of my
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: head with Patriots, but watching the Celtics win the championship
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: against Dallas in Game 5, they just played a perfect
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: game in that game.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: And it was just like, as a fan, there's nothing.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: That was literally, they peaked. In that moment, they were
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: the best possible version of themselves. And so I get
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: what the emailer is saying, that there's something to be
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: said for that.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: I feel like this needs a little addendum of like,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: I love playoff blowouts, I don't need to be stressed
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs when it is all on the line.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: You know, like, that's so relaxing.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but that's, like, the ultimate endorphin dump.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: Like, that's the.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: But when they played, like, Tim Tebow.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: Like, that's Paul's point of, like, that Denver team really
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: wasn't very good.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to call it the double bye.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Or the tomato can or whatever.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: The Houston team.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: But, like, when you play a team and, you know,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: I'm sure Seattle felt this way last year in the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Like, they played an incredible game, right?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold didn't even throw a pick.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: You think they said we didn't earn it?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: They earned it. They definitely earned it.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: It's that time of the week.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Deuce. I'm going to put on my readers. The pressure
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: is on. This is more.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: A Paul tribute than my eyes being that bad.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's a good thing Paul isn't here today.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: They're just blue light blockers.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: Because I don't really want to hear about... You know,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: we always get the standings.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take these off. This is annoying.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: Paul was in first place across the board this week, fellas.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Again?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: Not to ruin it, but let's get it out of
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: the way first because we'd have to deal with him
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: being all cocky. But let's go overall last week. Paul
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: was first, 10-4-1, followed by a tie between Alex and Evan, 8-6-1.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: Followed by a tie with Fred and Mike, 7-7-1. So
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: not a great week for everybody, except for Paul.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: I'm having a tough season all around.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: With the spread, Paul, again, 10-5. Wow.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Followed by Alex, 8-7. Evan and Fred, 7-8. And Mike,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: who falls back to earth after a solid performance with
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: the picks with the spread last week, 5-10 for Deuce.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: So overall standings for the season. Number one, of course,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: it's Paul Perillo, 53-25-1. I don't know if that's a record,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: but that's pretty darn good. Followed by Alex, 46-32-1. Then Mike, 45-33-1. Sorry,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: tied with Fred. Fred, we're both 43-35-1.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: And Evan, 40-38-1. Coming back.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: The spread for the season. Again, Paul Perrello, 46-32-1. Really impressive.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: Followed by Fred and Mike are tied at 35-43-1.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: We're still not making money, Fred. Third place, I guess
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: technically fourth, Alex, 34-44-1.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: And Evan, 29-49-1.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: So there you go.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Good thing Paul isn't here, man.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: He would just be gloating.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: No, listen, he's having a good year.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I give him credit. He always has a good year. No,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: he does. Like I said, it's in his blood.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: You know, so. Right. Ever since he's, yeah, he's been
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: a kid. Some of us have to work on something.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: You know, so, but yeah, give credit where credit is due. And, uh,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just really disappointed in myself. I just want to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: say that I got to do better. Uh, it's, it's
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: all about me. Uh, you know, it starts with me
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: and it ends with me and I, I just have
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: to do better. So I, I take full responsibility for my, my, uh, performance.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 13: It's good.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: It takes a big man to admit that. I'm about
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: to put mine into copilot. All right. Let's start tonight. Um, yeah,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I'll be watching this game. Good one. It's Seattle three
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: and two against Denver three and two. And of course
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: it's a primetime game. So guess where it's being played?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, Denver, Denver.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 13: Yep.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: You got that right. Um, so what do we got?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got Seattle by two and a half saddle
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: by two and a hay on the road.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: And, uh, Yeah, I've just seen some footage of Bo
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Nix kind of being like, I feel like I'm playing fine.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: And then I hear Mark Shariff, Super Broncos, being like,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: the offense is out of whack. And Sean Payton maybe
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: taking back play calling will help that. But I'm going
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: to go with Seattle on the road, and I'm going.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: To lay the points.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about the Broncos offense,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 7: and they've been struggling, and Bo Nix has been struggling.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: I can't imagine you're going to break out of a
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: slump against Seattle. That doesn't feel like a good recipe.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: Coming off a loss, too, right? Seattle hungry.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sertain isn't playing, I don't think.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: You're Seattle, Seattle?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go Seattle as well, both ways.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Hopefully this is the week I get out of my slump.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: All right, now we go to Sunday. But we go
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: to our early morning Sunday, 9.30 in the morning. Hello, Clem.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Houston at 1-4 is playing the Jacksonville Jaguars at 4-1
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: in London. Jaguars minus 2.5. Yeah, tough one.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Houston got their first win last week. It's hard to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: do double duty with this, you know, do the right
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: and the picks and everything.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Sorry, that was a quick aside. I'm going to go
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: with Jacksonville at home in England.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: Play the points.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: As am I.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 9: Interesting situation with Marvin Harrison Jr. and now Keyshawn Booty is...
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 9: It's just interesting how the league plays out, you know?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: He's going to take his volume away.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: So Jacksonville's been in London this whole time. They stayed
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: out there.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Which is making me want to go Jacksonville.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: But I feel like Houston is not as bad as 1-4,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: and I feel like Jacksonville needs a little bit of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: humble pie at some point.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: Ooh.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to pick the upset. I'm going to
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: take the Texans also just because I need to make
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: up ground. I was going to do the same thing,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: but I'm looking at injuries.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Will Anderson didn't participate in practice, and neither did Clowney.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: And Al Shayer didn't either. They'll be fine. You don't
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: think that matters much? I think they'll play.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: What was the spread again?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Two and a half for Jacksonville.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Two and a half.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: That's not far. That's not big enough. I mean, the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Texans can't be one and a half.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: They can't. They're just too good. But they might be.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: They might be.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm going back on what I was going to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: pick going into this game, which was Houston. I'm going
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: to pick Jacksonville. I just got spooked by the injuries.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: But when I put too much thought into it is
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: when I go wrong.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: But anyway.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: We move on to Sunday at 1.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Chicago, 3-2.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 12: At Atlanta, 2-3.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: All right, that's going to be.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: It does sound like Caleb is going to be back
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: for this game.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: Chicago minus 1.5. So Caleb's going to be back. I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: think Pennix is okay, too, was the word on the street.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: A tough one. Atlanta's got some talent. I don't think
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: they got enough. I like what, I don't like what
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: Chicago did last week. But if Caleb's, this is a
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: tough one, guys. I'm going to take Atlanta at home.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: The upset.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get crazy.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: I love Bijon so much, but I'm not going to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: do that. I'm going to go Bears-Bears.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: I have been impressed by the Falcons.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: I think they've been better than I expected and running
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: the ball like crazy and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 7: I'm going to go with the Falcons in this game.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: I don't really know right now. The Bears without Caleb's
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: been in and out, and I feel like their offense
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: has been streaky, and they got blown out last week.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Falcons.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Falcons, too. Yes, I
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: think Caleb Williams is going to play. But the Falcons,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Chicago's defense is suspect. And that's what I think is
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: going to be the difference in this game. Atlanta at home,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: I think if it was in Chicago, I might be
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: going with the Bears. But I like Atlanta.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: What was the spread again?
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: Chicago by one and a half.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously I don't have to worry about that.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Atlanta.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: All right. Sunday at one. Tough division game. The Ravens
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: at the Browns. Ravens are four and one. Browns are
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: three and two. Sounds like a Snoop Huntley game. Still Snoop.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: I think so. It's Baltimore by five and a half. Yeah,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I thought Cleveland might have had something going.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: I know. I trusted you.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Against the Jets.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, though, the Jets, like similar kind
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: of team, like talent on the periphery.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: They just got to figure out the quarterback.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with Baltimore to win, but I'm
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: going to take the Cleveland points at home in a
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: weird division game.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I agree. I'm going to do the same thing.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Lamar didn't practice on Wednesday, so it's looking like
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 7: Snoop Huntley.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: But I tried to trust the Browns last week.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: I thought they should be favored against the Jets, and
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 7: they put up a stinker, and I'm not doing it again.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: So, Ravens. Folks, this is your upset lock of the week.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Browns beat the Ravens.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland. Yeah. Browns beat the Ravens.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: You've got a star next to that one. Lock of
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: the week.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Upset lock of the week.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: Upset. Because it's easy to pick, you know, favorite locks.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 11: Noted.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Duly noted.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Real men pick upset locks.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Sunday at 1, Tennessee 0-5 at the Colts 2-3.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Indianapolis minus 7.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: Another big spread.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Tennessee floundering. They really are.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Indy. I'll lay the points at home.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 15: Same.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Indy.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 7: Can we get Cam Ward some help? Can somebody block?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 7: Or catch a contested catch? Or break a tackle? Or
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: do literally anything to help out Cam Ward? I'm going Colts-Colts.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go the Colts. Colts have disappointed
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: me a little bit. I thought that they would kind
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: of replicate what they did last year before Daniel Jones
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: got hurt, but they really haven't. But Tennessee is a
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: disaster from their front office on down.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: So I will go with the Colts both ways.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: We move to New Jersey where the Giants are playing
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: the 1-4 New Orleans Saints.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Giants are 3-1-1.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: They're hanging in there. James.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: Saints by one and a half. Yeah, the James Winston experience.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: I love that he's just still in the league. He's
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: such a character.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: He's eating W's right now.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: He brings me joy. He really does. He's funny. The
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: league's a better place with Jameis Winston in it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: My dad calls him Jameison for some reason.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: He drinks a lot.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the Giants.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Giants. Home ups, home dogs.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: Let's go, Jameis.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Can't talk them up and then not pick them. Saints.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: I'm going with the saints too, because I feel like Jameis,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 7: like the clock always strikes midnight on Jameis eventually. And
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: sometimes like during the game and then it resets, he
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: throws like three pick sixes and you're like, all right,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: there's Jameis. I think New Orleans is like just frisky
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: enough that, that, that they could do it against them.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: So I'll take the saints. Uh, I'm going to pick
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: the giants. I'm going with the giants to win the
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: game at home. Um, Weather might be a factor. I'm
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: not sure what Sunday's weather report looks like, but I'm
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: not sure. Oh, I don't know.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Up in the northeast.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: It looks.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that bad.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow was supposed to rain. I don't know about Sunday.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow's supposed to be a washout, right?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, maybe not.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: No comments about the weather.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: No, looking nice. Sunny. Sunny and 60.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: 56 and sunny.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with the Giants.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: All right, Sunday at 1, Carolina 2-2 at Philadelphia 2-3.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: What's going on with the Eagles?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 7: Sounds like they're still missing their guys, too. No Saquon,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: no Devontae Smith.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why Carolina is favored by a point and
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: That's tough. You know me. I like the Panthers. I
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: think they're frisky. Yeah, I'm going to go with it.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Carolina-Carolina.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm tortured by this one. I know. It's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: one and a half.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: She's thinking about the game or reading a text.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the spread because Deuce didn't.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Print me a sheet out today.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: He was really, he's like a little bit spiraling about this.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: He's tripping over things.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: He's doing a lot of jobs today. What's the spread
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: on this?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: One and a half Carolina by one and a half.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: On the road.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: On the road. Road favorites.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: I don't like it, but Eagles.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: Fly, Eagles.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 7: I am in on the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: I'm in on their offense. I'm in on Tedaro McMillan.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 7: I'm in on Bryce Young. They look like they're cooking.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: The Eagles, they can't score right now. I'm going with
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 7: the Panthers.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: This is the last week for the Eagles for me.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel, too.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm picking the Eagles, but if you lose this game,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: you've lost Fred.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: You're putting him on probation.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: They're on a tight leash.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Just no Eagles.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: And if they lose, we're undoing the leash.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: The others are fun to watch. That offense is fun
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: to watch. No, I called them plucky, I think, three
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and everyone laughed at me. Sunday at 1.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: We've all been like, I called them frisky.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: No one believed in that. Sunday at 1, Pittsburgh 3-2
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay 1-4.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: That's Jalen Daniels starting for the Buccaneers.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: That is Pittsburgh minus 2.5.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 13: Ah.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: It's hard to pick, man, with Aaron Rodgers. I just
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: feel like you don't know what you're going to get.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get crazy. I'm going to go Tampa.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Bay with upset.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That is kind of crazy.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: Steelers, Steelers.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: I can't believe Tampa Bay won that game against Dallas
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: last week.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I know. That literally, that was.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: The shock of the week for me. I don't think
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: they'd do it again.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: They go Pittsburgh. Do you see what happened after that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: game with his mama? No, with Dak Prescott in the tunnel.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: One of their employees. I did see that.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Imagine being that employee. It was there, Paul. Imagine being
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: that employee. Can you imagine if that had happened here
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was the head coach? Oh, gosh. That
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: employee would be tar and feathered. To the gulag. Yeah.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: What do you got, Fred?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: I've got Pittsburgh winning this game. Tampa Bay had their
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: big win of the season. That's it for them.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Now we skip over the Patriots at 1 o'clock and
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: we move to 4.05. It's the Cardinals 1-4 against the
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Rams at 2-3.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: The 2-3 Rams are 12.5-point favorites against their divisional rivals.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: Is that too much? I'm going to pick the Larder win.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to pick the Larder cover.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: What did you say the spread was?
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Twelve and a half. It's a big spread.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: Rams lay the points.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: I just want to say the Rams are who we
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: thought they were.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought they were the best team
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: in the league.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 7: This whole thing that, oh, why even have a season? Oh,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 7: just hand the Lombardi to the Rams. Oh, why even
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: play any games?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Two and three. Two and three to start the year.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Nobody told the Bills.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 20: Interesting.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm going to.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 7: Obviously, the Rams are going to win this game, but
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: I just think it's funny how, like, you know, maybe
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: let's play the games before we start crowning people in
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 7: the preseason.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 13: Rams.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 7: I'm going to take the Cardinals with the points, though,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 7: just because I'm salty about all the talk about the Rams.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: Jacoby's going to keep it close.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: So I was kind of looking at this game from
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: two ways. One, I'm mad at them about the Bills game,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: and just I thought their defense was horrendous. On the
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: other side.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: You know, the Cardinals with Jacoby Brissett.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they just can't score points. So 12
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: and a half seems like a big spread. But if
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: the Rams get rolling, it's going to be more than that.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with the Rams to win
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: the game and cover the spread. I was going to
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: take the points, but. The more I think about it,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: the Rams, if they're not pissed off about the last game,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: and McVay said that after the game. So I'm sure
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: that was the message all week for that team was
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: we need to be upset at ourselves. And so I
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: think they're going to come out at home and really
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: take it to the Cardinals.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: Maybe like if you paid attention to special teams every
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: once in a while.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 7: Get caught up in building super teams and you actually
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: got a kicker that can make a field goal.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they are a little bit, you know, I
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: don't know the word to it, but, you know, this
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: whole thing about, you know, the draft doesn't really matter.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Special teams doesn't matter. I don't need to go to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: college all-star games. I don't need to go to the combine.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I don't, you know, that's wearing a little thin.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Rubbing me the wrong way. Because corners.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: The wind's calling.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: All you other teams can do all that stupid stuff. Lazy. Yeah,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And we'll just pick great players and
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: win games. Teams cover kicks. So maybe they're getting to
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: come up in that regard.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: It's not quite the same for me watching Gabe Ackes,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: but watching Puka Nakua.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: It's fun to watch.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: He's for real.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: He's just, I mean, what is he, like 11? Out
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: of 12 targets, like, he's just, he's money in the bank.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: He's awesome. So, what are the odds, like, in five
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: years from now, every year there's a rumor that Pukunuku
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: is coming to the Patriots?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, I would love that.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Isn't that always the way? Larry Fitzgerald or whatever, you know?
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: No, we haven't got there yet, but we'll get there.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: We got A.J.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 8: Brown.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: I don't think this Rams team is really, like, selling
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 7: off pieces.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: They're literally doing the opposite now.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: I said, like, five years from now.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: You get old-ass Pukunuku.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Broken down. Right. Too bad. But we'll be just as
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: excited about it. Especially the way that guy plays.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 13: I know.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Well, geez.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: When he played here, he had a catch in the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: added zone near the lighthouse. That was just like diving.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how do you even stop that?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: He's awesome.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: He's something else.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: He's a baggage boy, though.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Sure is.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. 425.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 20: Not interested.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: The Chargers 0-5 against the Chiefs 4-0.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: The Chefs by 8.5.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: So how are we feeling?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: We think the LAC's going to be a little frisky
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: in the division. Are they going to make a stand?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: Are they going to try to prove something?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: Division games. Win a game.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I do think division games are close.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to take KC, but I'll take the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: points for the LAC and see if they can try to,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: you know, do something to build off of. Because now,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're on a tough track right now.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do the same thing, but I don't
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: know why.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going Chiefs, Chiefs.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: This is another team I don't want to hear anything
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 7: else about is the Chargers. I don't want to hear
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: about how much talent they have. I don't want to
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 7: hear about how great the quarterback is.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: They lose every year. They are not a paper tiger.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: So if you're the Chargers.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: I'm done with them.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: If you're the Chargers and this season continues to go
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: the way it is and you have the first pick
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: or the second pick, are you sticking with Herbert and
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: trading that pick?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: Or are you using that pick and trading Herbert?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: Could you persuade him to break up with his girlfriend first?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: They're engaged.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with Herbert.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 7: You hope that the quarterback you draft turns into somebody
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 7: as good as Justin Herbert. This is a good draft
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: for other positions, especially edge rusher, which I'm sure they
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 7: would love.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith would be a great pick too.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: But if you end up going 1-16, don't you feel
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: like you need to just blow it up and start fresh?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: And that might include the coach.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would look more at the coaching than the quarterback.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: I would too. It's too hard to find that much
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: talent in a quarterback. And I know it's a good
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: draft quarterback. I think it's tapered off. People aren't as
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: high on it now as they were going into the season.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: So I just, I think you got to continue to,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know what his contract situation is.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: I assume he's in. Oh, it's a lot. Yeah.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: So I think you're kind of married to him, but
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: you know, what are you going to draft the tackle?
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, like you got good tackles, like Jeremiah
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Smith's a good show.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: That would be, you know? Yeah.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: All right. I'm going to go with the chiefs both ways.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: All right. Um, Sunday, four 25 Buffalo four and one
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: at the Raiders three and two.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I, I, I, I thought Buffalo obviously bounced back
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: really well against the Rams, and Josh Allen just continues
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: to put the weight of the world on him. Oh, sorry, 5.5,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: Buffalo 5.5. I'm going to take Buffalo and Buffalo.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: Buffalo, Buffalo.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the clock struck midnight on Kirk Cousins
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: last week. I think they're talking about Mendoza after this game,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 7: and I'm going Buffalo, Buffalo.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: It would be interesting if the Raiders put up a fight.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: And then you can say, well, you know, maybe the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Patriots didn't unload on such a bad team. Maybe they
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: are a little bit better than they showed in Gillette.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: But I don't think so. I think Buffalo wins and
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: they cover.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Sunday night, 820. Sunday night football. It's the Dallas Cowboys
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: at 2-3 at the Green Bay Packers 3-2.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: The Packers by one and a half. Nice bounce back
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: for them last week. Wasn't really totally expecting that. And, man,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: what a tough loss for Dallas. I think that, you know,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: these two teams kind of coming off opposite games.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: Green Bay re-inspired and Dallas wondering what they got. I'm
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: just going to go with the home team here. I'm
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: going to go Green Bay, Green Bay.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Same. Same. I'm not trusting Dallas ever again. Yeah, this
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: is a pick on who I want to win, not
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: necessarily who I think I want to win, because Green
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Bay is.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: They're not reliable either.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 9: Kevin looks super prepared for the season when I watch them.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: Like, they just... I don't know. At least their first games, like,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: just a lot of penalties. They were sloppy. And I
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: was just like, are you guys even ready?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's my favorite roller coaster.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: They're definitely jack-on-hide. Is it Toyota-thon, though?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Because if it is, then... I'm going to go with
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: the Packers to win because I want them to win.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Monday night, 8-15. It's the Commanders, 1-3-1, at the undefeated
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: 5-0, at home. San Francisco....
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Minus seven and a half.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that, I mean, everybody's still talking about that Jaden
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: Daniels thing at the end there.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Does he ever get over that?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't like his comportment either. Like, the smile.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: I just, I just like too much talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I get it. It was a snafu. Idiot. God, Lee.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go San Francisco both ways.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: Niners, Niners.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going with the Niners. Keep it rolling. This is
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: a Dan Quinn game.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Save your job, Dan Quinn. Can you save your
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: job or can you show that you have this team,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: that you have their ear, that you can motivate? You
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: obviously stood by your quarterback. You took the blame. I
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: know both of them took the blame, but it wasn't
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Quinn's fault. The way he threw his headset after the play,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: that wasn't what he was expecting.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: I hope it wasn't.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: The question is, you would hope, and I think that
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 7: the Patriots are a good example, because Mike Rabel and
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 7: McDaniels and Stretch, I'm sure, are saying the same thing
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 7: up top, is explaining the situation to the quarterback in
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: the headset before the ball, before the plate, right?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: Like you're saying, right. You have to get a stop
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: clock here. Like no matter what you do.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 9: You can't, I could be wrong, but I thought I heard,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 9: I thought a Washington player was asked like verbatim. Did
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: you guys, were you aware of the situational aspects in
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 9: the huddle before going out?
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: And they're like, yes, I'm sure.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: But like, I guess I don't know.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 7: Like I would like to think that Josh McDaniels or
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 7: Mike Vrabel would be in Drake May's ear and, Right
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: before the communication shuts off being like, whatever you do,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: you need to stop the clock.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: You can't let this clock run.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 7: Those situations, I hold it on the coach a little bit.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 7: You need to make sure that the player is 110% aware.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: To what you said, I heard that there was rumors
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: that the commander thought there was another period after that.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: They didn't know it ended in a tie.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: That happens.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: That happens more frequently than you think.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: And they added ties every year.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 7: And they added in the coin toss now and overtime. They,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 7: the ref will say if the period ends, it's a tie.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 7: And they make sure that announces that right before the
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 7: overtime period. Cause there has been times where players didn't
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 7: know it could end in a tie.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: So despite that though, I think that 49ers win this
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: game and they cover, but, all eyes are going to be,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: More on, uh, Quinn than on Jaden Daniels.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. So, all right, now we move back to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: one o'clock and the New Jersey jets are in town
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: with their two and three record against the three and
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: two Patriots.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Both teams, um, coming off wins.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: Patriots by seven and a half. I gotta, gotta win
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: this game for new England and, you know, keep the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: jets where they're at. Don't give them, uh, the belief
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: that they're back in this thing. Um, And I think
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: the Patriots will get the job done. Get A.J. Brown
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: back in the mix a little bit. Big day for Ramondre.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Patriots. I got a seven and
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: a half. Adjust my spread a little bit. I'm going
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 4: to say 26-17.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 9: Patriots 30, Jets 13.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 7: I think this game reminds me a little bit more
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 7: of the game here last year where like the Patriots
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 7: controlled the game, but it wasn't a boat race.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: Blowout like the last week against the Raiders.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 7: I go like 27, 14, like comfortable win, but not,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 7: not a win.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: Where you're like division game boat race.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, you know, division game, I, I, in the past,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: I'd probably take the number and have the Patriots win,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: but the jets are, yeah, the jets are just not equipped, uh,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: to come in here and cover that spread. Um, so,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Patriots both ways. And
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: I do think that they're going to have success on offense.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: So I can't see them scoring below 30.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: So I'll go 35, 35-12.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: 12?
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 12.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: That's got to be a score-a-gami, 35-12.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're going to pay their respects to
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Joe Namath.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: They're going to score 12.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: Six safeties.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Because that's the last time the Jets have won a
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl or Even Ben in the Super Bowl is 1969.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: That's a long time ago. With Joe Namath.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: Patriots have been like 12 of them.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. All right, so we have a little time. Oh,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: we didn't even have to hurry. Fred, we got an
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: answer from Jim Scalins.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: They said, yes, they do.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: You have to order them.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: They take six to eight weeks to deliver. You have
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: to order them six to eight weeks. Can you call
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: and order over the phone maybe?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: I assume so.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: And will the pro shop ship it to him?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Well, if not, Matt Morrell will ship it to them.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: So why don't you find out the number for the
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: pro shop, and we'll give that number out.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: You're giving them jerseys now. They're going to have to
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: pay for it. I was going to say, the stiffed-in
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: ones are expensive.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: That reminded me a lot. I was like, can I
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: get in on this order?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: What's the number for the pro shop?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: 888-662-7287.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 14: 662-7287.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: So just call the pro shop and talk to them. Say,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: you know, you live out of state. You can't make
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: it to the pro shop. Is there a way that
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: you could order a custom jersey? You realize it'll take
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: six to eight weeks. That's not a problem. We'll figure
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: it out. And, you know, tell them you want to
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: do a rarity. Yeah.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: He wanted to do Raritan.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: That might be a good investment. He could be on
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: this team for a while.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: We're going to move some Eli jerseys today.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 7: I really like Eli Raritan, and I hope he's on
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 7: this team for a while, but I have a strict
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 7: policy with jerseys now.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: We're like legends only.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: Yep, me too.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 7: Because I've been burned so many times by buying jerseys
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 7: of players that I liked for a minute in time,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 7: and then they're off the team, and I'll never wear
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: that jersey again.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: No, but you know what happens with those jerseys? So
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: once they leave the team... you put them away. But
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: then like 10 years later, you throw them out and
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, I love that jersey. You know?
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: So I forget who it is, but someone....
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 9: It might have been one of the MassLive people did
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 9: just a compilation of all the really obscure Patriots jerseys
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 9: you see in the game.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: It's kind of funny.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I love when you see, like, the 90s ones that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: look like they've been through war.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: It's just like, that guy's been going to every single.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: Game for 30 years.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: My stepdad has a Teddy jersey that's so epic.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: Vincent Brisby.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 7: It feels like a little bit of a waste when you, like,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 7: buy a jersey and then the player gets traded or...
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: leaves or whatever and you're like i probably that was probably.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah i yeah i think just buying jerseys anyway with
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: somebody else's name on it i don't like that i.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: Get it fred i got a bruski a brady and
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: a gronk and that's uh that's where i stopped but
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: and do you wear them uh not really anymore but
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: i do you know what i did recently yeah i
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: mean you know costumes i had the reversible blood so
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: uh but one other one my uncle came across as
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: he was cleaning out an old house is like this
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: It's way too small. White Curtis Martin jersey, but like
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: way too small. Like I could wear it, but it
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: would be kind of funny. So I might have to
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: bust that out for Halloween.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: Anyone go into a Halloween party where you're dressing up?
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: Not that I'm aware of.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: We're going to be in Miami.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 9: I'm going to the Patriots Foundation Children's Halloween Party.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Are you going to dress up?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: I think it would be Jessie from Toy Story.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: Jessie from, which one is Jessie?
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: Jessie the cowgirl.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 20: No.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: It's a Pixar game, so.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Evan, you would never go to a Halloween party.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 7: I would never go to a Halloween party, but my
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 7: days of dressing up are.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: If you did dress up, what would you dress as?
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: I think my best costume ever was, I was Indiana
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: Jones one year.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good costume. And I had the hat
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: and I had the.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: The whip. The whip. And I had the whole get up.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 18: It was good.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: It was in college.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: I had a friend, a really smart investment. He bought
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: like a legit Stormtrooper outfit, like costume, like the real.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: He just bought it once.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: So now he's got it.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 4: Anytime there's a, he's a real deal Stormtrooper. So it's
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: kind of cool.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: When you're in college, like you kind of, you don't
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: have to try that hard, but like, you know, you
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: get kind of.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: But if you do, it's awesome.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 7: And you get kind of shamed if you show up
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: to like on Halloween weekend and you're not dressed up.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: So like we used to.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 9: Have some pretty my birthday is near halloween so it
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 9: was always the best week in college because you would
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 9: celebrate it before and after the holiday and it was
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 9: just like you needed six halloween costumes per year.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: Well tonight we're shooting an episode of uh live at
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: the toby house if you haven't watched yet it's on
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: uh youtube uh at uh toby house and uh We'll
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: be talking about Halloween. Halloween edition. That's the topic. Are
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: you guys dressing up?
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 9: You guys should go to Provincetown for my cousin's ghost tour.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: My cousin Angie runs it.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Your cousin runs it?
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: She's had the.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 9: Provincetown ghost tour for, oh my God, probably like over
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: 15 years now.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: Is it all year or just once during this time
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: of year?
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: It's all through the summer. It's seasonal. She comes back
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: in the winter.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: But obviously she's got it this weekend or leading up
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: to Halloween.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: Provincetown Ghost Tours. I could be wrong.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know there were ghosts up in Provincetown.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: Well, think about the history there.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: It's been there a long time.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: Old Fisherman. I should have caught that.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: There is. There's... There's, like, a pirate ship that went down.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: The Black Widow.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: I went there.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: So the Black Widow Museum's down there.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Is this Widow's Bay?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 9: There's also some, like, famous Provincetown serial killers. Tony Chop Chop.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like we've randomly talked about.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: We've talked about this on the show before.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we did talk about that.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 17: Yep.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 9: And just like all the pilgrims, because the pilgrims landed
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 9: there first, so think of.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: All the people that died around that.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: My 12-time great-grandfather was amongst the pilgrims that landed there.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Did I ever tell that story?
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: I got a pilgrim on. Of course. Yeah, Richard Warren,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: one of my pilgrim relatives. Richard Warren is one of
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: your relatives.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: We've got some good lore in this episode.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: You're going to be royal by the time we get there.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: Real quick, though, that Witta pirate ship that they found
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: in the 80s, there's a full museum.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: Your uncle was the captain.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: No, no relation to that, but really cool. I went
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: to that museum.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a legit.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: pirate ship that was loaded to the gills with booty
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: and plunder. And they got all kinds of coins and muskets.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: And it's just, if you like, pirate ship stuff.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there was like a famous pirate, Sam Blackbeard or something, maybe.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting. I like that stuff.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: So the museum is in Provincetown?
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: No, it's actually, it's like Yarmouth Port, like right on 28,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: right on that main strip. Oh, I know where the
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: Pirates Museum is.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right by Captain Parker's.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: West Yarmouth. Yep, yep.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow. I've never been in that museum. It was
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: my first time.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 4: We went this summer, and it's really cool.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: I should go.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 4: Legit, real pirate stuff, you know?
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a pirate. All right, that's
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Everybody have a good weekend. We've got the post-game show
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, 11.45, and the pre-game show, 11.45, post-game show
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  Speaker 2: The award-winning post-game show.
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  Speaker 1: We won an award?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people are saying it.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard people say it.
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  Speaker 3: Social media award?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all because of Troy. All right, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: you next Tuesday. Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning
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  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot.