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Domesticated - ‘Who Joins the Australian Top 7?’ Sheffield Shield Final REVIEW + Thornton’s best on ground as SA celebrate! · The Follow-On

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  Speaker 1: The Sheffield Shield season, got the final, it deserved an
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  Speaker 1: epic over five days, South Australia crown back to back champions.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Domesticated. I'm justin Edwards, Fox Crickets Nick Savages
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  Speaker 1: alongside me.
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  Speaker 2: Nick.
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  Speaker 1: What a Sheffield Shield Final. It was five days of
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  Speaker 1: awesome cricket.
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  Speaker 3: The two best states and the competition and Victoria dominated
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  Speaker 3: the first couple of days. They got that first innings lead,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a collapse early in the second
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  Speaker 3: innings of South Australia and it was all about Alex
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  Speaker 3: Carey and the fast ballers in that fourth innings. South
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  Speaker 3: Australia back to back champions, first time in there one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty history that been able.
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  Speaker 2: To do it. So a really exciting time for the Redbacks.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about South Australia is they're taking almost
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  Speaker 1: the discards from other states. Guys like Jason Sanger, Henry
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  Speaker 1: Thornton who couldn't get Nathan McAndrew as well, couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity for New South Wales and here he is
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  Speaker 1: Player of the match in the Shoeld Final. Ryan Harris
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  Speaker 1: really seems to have to be able to get the
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  Speaker 1: best out of these players that other states.
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  Speaker 2: Weren't willing to give opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: You have to actually go back a few years to
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  Speaker 3: when South Astralia got bottom of the Shield ladder two
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  Speaker 3: years in a row. They went nearly two years without
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  Speaker 3: getting a win. Even it was around that time that
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  Speaker 3: Jason Glessie was stood down. Michael Hassi was asked to
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  Speaker 3: conduct a review and one of his main points was
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  Speaker 3: don't be afraid to pinch players from other states. The
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  Speaker 3: more popular states on the east, on the eastern coast
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  Speaker 3: of Australia and then South Asraa took that on board.
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  Speaker 3: They started taking the discards. The people were pushing for
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  Speaker 3: spots and it's massively paid dividends. You don't want to
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  Speaker 3: give my Cassi all the credit, but it was a
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  Speaker 3: master stroke in the end. In that starting eleven in
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  Speaker 3: that final South Australia, only one player was actually born
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  Speaker 3: in South Australia, being.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Carry at the Centurion.
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  Speaker 3: The entire bowling attack was made out of Sydney great
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  Speaker 3: cricketers at the start of their careers, so no exactly rights.
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  Speaker 3: It's worked really well for South Australia and you know
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a dynasty building here. Can they make
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  Speaker 3: it a hat trick of titles next summer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, two in a row, the first time in the
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four year history of this competition
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  Speaker 1: that South Australia have won two Shield titles in a row.
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  Speaker 1: And the start of this competition there are only three
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  Speaker 1: states in South Astralia is one of them. They stoodn't
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  Speaker 1: win to an a row back then. Alex Carey was
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  Speaker 1: the high like the only century of the match and
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  Speaker 1: second consecutive Shield final one hundred after he got one
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  Speaker 1: last year as well.
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  Speaker 3: Is a big game player. His test experience is rubbing
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  Speaker 3: off there. He can stand up when the pressure's on.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the a lot of great players haven't been
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  Speaker 3: able to do that in Shield finals. Peter Hanskin was
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  Speaker 3: the leading run scorer of the entire competition, but he
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  Speaker 3: just couldn't knuckle down in that second innings and get
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  Speaker 3: Victoria of the line. Alex Carey, I mean there was
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  Speaker 3: that one stage where South Australia were effectively seven for
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  Speaker 3: forty on. I mean the game was it felt basically over.
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  Speaker 3: Then with the help of Nathan mc andrew, rebuilt that innings,
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  Speaker 3: gave them a chance and the Ballers did the rest
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, Cary, he's the best keeper batter in the
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  Speaker 3: world at the moment. I feel maybe not a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years ago wouldn't have been, but after that Ashes
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  Speaker 3: series and another Shield Final one hundred, he's got to
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  Speaker 3: be considered one of the best in the world at
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  Speaker 3: the craft.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And what I love about Alex Carey is he's at
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  Speaker 1: a point in his career where he doesn't need to
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  Speaker 1: play shield cricket. If he didn't want to play, it
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  Speaker 1: would be no skin off your nose. Yeah, you've had
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  Speaker 1: a massive summer, can have a rest, but he comes
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  Speaker 1: back to play shield cricket, not just to prepare for tests.
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  Speaker 1: He plays shield cricket because he loves to play shield cricket.
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  Speaker 1: He loves representing South Australia. You know, people go off
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  Speaker 1: to the IPL and that's fine. I'm sure Kerry would
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  Speaker 1: be at the IPL if he hadn't been in the
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  Speaker 1: auction and got a deal.
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  Speaker 2: But I love.
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  Speaker 1: Players like this. Matthew Wade was the same. He loved
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  Speaker 1: playing for his state. He loves playing shield cricket when
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't need to, and I think it might ask
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  Speaker 1: him at some point, but I think this actually winning
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  Speaker 1: back to back Sheffer'd Shield titles. Alex Krey would actually
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  Speaker 1: consider one of his career highlights. He's been in World
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  Speaker 1: cut winning squads. He's one Ashes series, but the way
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  Speaker 1: he loves representing South Australia as only South Australian born
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  Speaker 1: South Australian in that eleven it's just as a Sheffield
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  Speaker 1: Shield fan, it just fills my heart with warmth.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they would have supported him through the entire to
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  Speaker 3: the first half of his career as he was making
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  Speaker 3: a name for himself in Australian cricket. South Australia ones
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  Speaker 3: giving him those opportunities and giving him those chances, and
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  Speaker 3: he feels an obligation to pay them back of course.
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  Speaker 3: And as you said, a lot of the players his
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  Speaker 3: teammates and the Test sight are off in the PSL
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  Speaker 3: of the IPL. Scot Boland also played that final, similar
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  Speaker 3: for Victoria. He was in that Victorian set up for
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  Speaker 3: a decade before getting his Test debut.
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  Speaker 2: He also feels as though this is a good chance
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  Speaker 2: to hopefully.
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  Speaker 3: Get the Nut title and pay back all the effort
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  Speaker 3: they've put in for him, and Alex carry now hopefully
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  Speaker 3: gets a bit of a breakheut of what's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a massive summer next year, and he just loves South
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  Speaker 3: Astralian cricket.
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  Speaker 2: He wants them to win.
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  Speaker 3: Titles and it's really great to see him not only
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  Speaker 3: contributing but winning them those games with big scores.
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  Speaker 1: The came moment of that Shield Final was the start
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  Speaker 1: of Day four when South Australia were in all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of travel and not just one hundred from Alex Carey,
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  Speaker 1: but sixty from Nathan McAndrew, first ever Sheffield Shield half
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  Speaker 1: century and three wickets in each innings with the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Player of the match.
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  Speaker 1: For a guy that couldn't get a game for New
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  Speaker 1: South Wales a few years ago, comes across to South
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  Speaker 1: Australia and he's become such an important player for them.
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  Speaker 1: Stood up now that Brendan Doggett has been both injured
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  Speaker 1: and playing Test cricket, he's been their leading wicket taker
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 2: Is he in best?
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  Speaker 1: The player of the match and Shield Finals is always
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  Speaker 1: in Test conversations, but he has elevated himself. Not quite
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  Speaker 1: to the level of Star Cummins, Hazelwood and Boland and
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  Speaker 1: Nissa the rung down, but he is right up there
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  Speaker 1: in contention in that.
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  Speaker 2: Next lot of fast ballers.
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  Speaker 3: We spoke about in the last episode that we recorded
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  Speaker 3: who was going to step up in that final because
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  Speaker 3: players who do perform in finals get test op worth double.
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  Speaker 2: Any wickets and runs in the seer final, they're worth double.
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  Speaker 3: And it has that feeling because we've spoken to death
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  Speaker 3: about this massive summer schedule that Australia has next year.
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  Speaker 3: There's gonna be twenty tests in the span of about
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  Speaker 3: ten months and Australia's aging bowling attack is not gonna
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  Speaker 3: be able to do that. Like as much as we
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  Speaker 3: love star Hazel Cummins, we've seen that they are vulnerable.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to be able to do that test
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  Speaker 3: up to test, up to test.
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  Speaker 1: Hazewld and Cummins played what one test between them in
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  Speaker 1: the whole Ashes exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The opportunities are there.
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  Speaker 3: Brendan Doggert got his chance this summer and I think
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  Speaker 3: particularly for the Ashes too. I think Nathan McAndrew is
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  Speaker 3: very much a chance that I think he's got the
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  Speaker 3: skill set to do really well over the UK. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's done a bit of county cricket in the
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  Speaker 3: past and done so quite successfully. Ferguson neil as well.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't on the winning side, but bold and batted
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  Speaker 3: really well in this match as well. And he's obviously been,
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  Speaker 3: like McAndrew, a very consistent performer over.
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  Speaker 2: The last few years.
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  Speaker 3: So do not be surprised at the two of them
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  Speaker 3: are in that Ashes squad in fourteen months time, because
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  Speaker 3: I think they've got the skill set to do it
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  Speaker 3: and they have the experience at Shield level to convert
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  Speaker 3: that into Test wickets.
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  Speaker 1: We'll move on to Fergus O'Neil. He's in a similar
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  Speaker 1: mold to Nathan McAndrew. What he did really well was
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  Speaker 1: not only his bowling, but he's batting in this match
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  Speaker 1: as he's batting has been so good all summer. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was able to bat at.
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  Speaker 3: Seven, I mean it was a role that Will Sutherland
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  Speaker 3: had done in the past. For whatever reason, he slid
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  Speaker 3: down to eight nine.
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  Speaker 2: Quite for Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: Fergus Neil, he's averaging in the high thirties this summer
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  Speaker 3: in the Shield and we look at the top ten
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  Speaker 3: names on the run scorers, they're all averaging mid thirties
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  Speaker 3: and Fergus Neil's just on par with them. Essentially, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: against the older ball, but regardless, he looks strong with
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  Speaker 3: about He's basically an all round her now and that
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  Speaker 3: co I think goes a long way and pushing his
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  Speaker 3: chances for a Test caller. Because Alex Carey is getting
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  Speaker 3: more chances at Test se number six, there's a spot
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  Speaker 3: there at seven. Perhaps it's Bo Webster's. He's probably the
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  Speaker 3: first name there. But if they needed a bowling a
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  Speaker 3: rounder for team balance, whether it be in India, we
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  Speaker 3: know a lot of weird things happens with citing eleven
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  Speaker 3: in India, there's every chance that they might need it
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  Speaker 3: as a second quick also providing some valuable runs. So
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  Speaker 3: if he can keep improving as batting as well as
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  Speaker 3: keeping his bowling as consistent as it has been, he's
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  Speaker 3: every chance of helping his chances for Test debut.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that is his path into the Test team,
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  Speaker 1: sort of as the successor to Nisa as a bowling
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  Speaker 1: all round up. We know the air speed everyone we
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  Speaker 1: talked to death about Fergus only is too slow for
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  Speaker 1: Test cricket. But if he's get chipping in with the
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  Speaker 1: odd half century as well as being a frontline bowler,
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  Speaker 1: I think that is his path into the Test team
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  Speaker 1: in a similar way that Nissa did, maybe not as
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's going to play sixty tests, but a
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  Speaker 1: guy that might pay twenty super important tests for Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: This was a real missed opportunity for them. We have
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  Speaker 1: spoken all year on this show about how they are
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  Speaker 1: the best team in the competition. They get the home
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  Speaker 1: final lock that in with a couple of rounds to go,
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  Speaker 1: and they miss their optunity on the big stage.
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  Speaker 2: They slipt up. They tripped at that final hurdle.
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  Speaker 3: We just spoke before about how they were in such
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  Speaker 3: a dominant position, they just let that partnership grow. They
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  Speaker 3: couldn knock over the tail quickly and then the top bar,
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  Speaker 3: and that fourth innings just couldn't step up. They just
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get the runs. Hanskom was there only when who
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  Speaker 3: got past thirty I think in that fourth inning.
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  Speaker 1: So that moment at the end of day four when
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  Speaker 1: Hanskimb and Harris were in, and if those two got
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  Speaker 1: to stumps, Victoria would have been strong favorites going into
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  Speaker 1: day five. They both got out and Victoria sent the
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  Speaker 1: two night watchmen in, who both got three to stumps.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a fine decision. But if those two
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  Speaker 1: had been at stumps, the two guys with test experience.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get them out on next day before
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  Speaker 1: you can get into the tail. That would have changed
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  Speaker 1: the game entirely.
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  Speaker 3: No, exactly right, So it is a shame for Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: But Will Sutherland spoke about afterwards that he does feel
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  Speaker 3: that this team is building towards something really good, really strong,
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  Speaker 3: and look at the squad. There's so many young players
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  Speaker 3: there who are still developing their craft. Olli peak Campbell Kellaway.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen Sam Harper develop into a really exciting opening player,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of the quick balls are in their
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  Speaker 3: mid twenties as well. They are still building towards a
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  Speaker 3: really strong Victorian side, and they've missed a lot of
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  Speaker 3: opportunities over the last few years. I've made the final
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  Speaker 3: a few times without getting it done. But I think
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  Speaker 3: as well subtle and said during that post match presentation,
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  Speaker 3: you know it's not all about one match.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to define this team.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt They're gonna be that final again next year
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  Speaker 3: because they are a really strong side.
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  Speaker 1: The controversy out of the Sheffield Shield finally, if you
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  Speaker 1: can call it that, the injury sub and so to
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  Speaker 1: explain what happens Sam Mali. It was selected over Mitch
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  Speaker 1: Perry for Victoria, which was a really tight selection call.
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  Speaker 2: Samily then injures his hamstring.
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  Speaker 1: We've heard now it's a Grade two hamstring strain and
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Perry is injury subbed in, which is as per
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  Speaker 1: the rules, and Mitch Perry goes on to take a
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  Speaker 1: wicket with his very first ball. So Ryan Harris was
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  Speaker 1: critical of this. It's a rule we've had the whole
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  Speaker 1: year in the Sheffield Shields, initially on a trial basis,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think of it?
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  Speaker 2: In a Shield final and it's played a pivotal role.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the rule.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to see it at Test level because
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  Speaker 3: the alternative we saw last year during the English summer
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  Speaker 3: when Chris Wokes walked out with his broken arm in
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  Speaker 3: a sling having to bat out to try and save
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to see that scenario.
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  Speaker 3: Risha Pant had a similar situation early in this series
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  Speaker 3: yet to bat with one leg. Essentially, I prefer this
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  Speaker 3: as an alternative, and they have rules in place. It
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  Speaker 3: has to be a switch done before day two and
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  Speaker 3: the opposition is allowed to make a strategic switch in response.
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  Speaker 3: So I see that as a really good alternative that
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  Speaker 3: just forcing into players to bat essentially, and we see
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  Speaker 3: how detrimental can be if a team is down a bowler,
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  Speaker 3: essentially trying to make someone ball through the pain, resulting.
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  Speaker 2: In longer term injuries. I like the rule.
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  Speaker 3: I think it does still need tinkering, and I probably
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  Speaker 3: will be tinkering with over the next couple years.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to see at test level.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually it can result in some fascal scenes as he
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  Speaker 3: saw in the Shield final where Ben Roh was being
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  Speaker 3: sent out as a substitute fielder at one stage to
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  Speaker 3: make up the eleven. I get that, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's better than an alternative. Personally.
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  Speaker 1: I like the rule in Shield Cricket because we talk
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  Speaker 1: about the dual role of Shield cricket, which is, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's winning and the title, but also to develop players
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  Speaker 1: for the Test team, and nobody gets developed by somebody
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  Speaker 1: being out of the team and nobody coming in to
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  Speaker 1: replace them, not just for the team that that happened
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  Speaker 1: to with a person that gets the opportunity like Mitch
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  Speaker 1: Perry gets the opportunity to come in, but also for
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  Speaker 1: the opposition, because say Alex Kerry is a prospective Test player.
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  Speaker 1: Had he got a century against a depleted attack, that
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  Speaker 1: would be a mark against him. So I get one
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  Speaker 1: hundred hours against a depleted attack, so he gets the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to do it against a full attack. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to see an injury sub in Test cricket, where
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  Speaker 1: winning is absolutely everything. I think built into your selection
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  Speaker 1: of the eleven should be contingencies for what happens in
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  Speaker 1: the case of an injury. So an all rounder is
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  Speaker 1: valuable to your team because they can fill a role
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  Speaker 1: if a bowler goes down, not even if a bowler
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  Speaker 1: goes down with injury. If a bowl is just bowling bad,
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  Speaker 1: you can go to your round it and you have
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  Speaker 1: options like that or you're The reason you know tail
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  Speaker 1: end is practiced batting so much is because if they're
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  Speaker 1: required that which could be in the case of an injury,
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  Speaker 1: it could just be in the case of batting collapse.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't mind the rule in shield cricket. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to see it in Test cricket.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Another is at this stage with how it's played out,
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  Speaker 3: there are opportunities for Test sites to exploit it as
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  Speaker 3: that which Victoria did not do He was no extreme
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  Speaker 3: at hamstring injury, but the rule does leave it open
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  Speaker 3: to be manipulated one hundred percent, and Ben Stokes flagged
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  Speaker 3: that during the England series he was asked about the
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  Speaker 3: injury and he basically, I don't like it because I
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  Speaker 3: feel like we would try and exploit it as well
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  Speaker 3: as the opposition would. So yeah, perhaps you're right test level,
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  Speaker 3: it's not quite ready, but I think it does play
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  Speaker 3: an important role definitely at Shield level. I think far
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  Speaker 3: too often before we've seen games decided by moments like that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Benefited New Souf Well a lot this summer.
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  Speaker 3: I think two or three times they had to bring
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  Speaker 3: in a substitute player for an injury. Seann Abbott was
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  Speaker 3: the first to go off Will Saltzman during a game
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  Speaker 3: with the SCG. The Blues had a lot of bad
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  Speaker 3: luck throughout this summer. Clear up the reason they didn't
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  Speaker 3: make the final. They've got a lot of bigger issues there.
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  Speaker 2: But it has a role to.
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  Speaker 3: Play in the Shield And while it was a bit
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  Speaker 3: silly in the Shield Final this time around and it
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  Speaker 3: did definitely aid Victoria's cause, I think it's really important.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, in our last episode.
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  Speaker 1: This has been our biggest topic of discussion all year,
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  Speaker 1: the Australian Top seven. We're going to name our Australian
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  Speaker 1: Top seven for their next Test match, which is Bangladeshi
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  Speaker 1: in August, and I'm taking it with a view to
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  Speaker 1: South Africa in October as well. I'm sure we both
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  Speaker 1: have Travis Head opening the batting. Who is opening the
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  Speaker 1: batting alongside him?
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  Speaker 3: For you? This is difficult for me because I'm a
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  Speaker 3: big fan of Jake WEATHERALLDO. I really like him as
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  Speaker 3: an opener, but at this stage I'm backing Matt Renshaw
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  Speaker 3: for that gig. He obviously hasn't played Test cricket for
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: a few years, but he's matured a lot as a
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: player and a person, and in all three formats he's
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: contributing a lot for Queensland and the Brisbane Heat and
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: I just feel that he'd be a really good accomplish
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: for Travis Head.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: At the top. I am Matt Renshaw as well.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I think while his shield numbers in terms of total
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: runs don't stack up as much, is because he hasn't
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: played as many because he's been playing with Australia. He
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: was at the t twenty World Cup. He played for
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: the one days at the start of the summer. I'm
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: him opening the banning as well. However, I'm perhaps not.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on Jake Weather.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Or just yet.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think his international career is over. You're number three.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: I also pondered over this one for a while, but
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: purely because of I don't see a stronger alternative. I'm
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: sticking with Manus Lavish and it's approaching our three is
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: since he got a Test one hundred, which is pretty
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: wilful for Australia. Number three like that wouldn't have been
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: acceptable a generation to go, but we saw at the
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: start of the summer he was just a class above
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: everyone else in the Sheffield Shield at start. Obviously the
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: form dipped off in the ashes and drew in the
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: second half of the Shield, but he has what eleven
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: test hundreds, and that experience is so valuable rather than
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: going on essentially a wild card or a new name
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: at number three, which is such an important spot.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: So just his.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: Experience keeps him there. But he needs runs, purely, he
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: needs runs.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I am Manus at three as well.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Tensatively, I sort of was like, I can't we need
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: to try something else. But then no, I didn't nowhere
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: else to go. The only other thing I thought about
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: was sticking with Weatherorld and having Renshaw at three because
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: renchal combat anyway, is the most first tail batsman in Australia.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought about. But I'm just sticking with
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Manus for now.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we both have Steve Smith at number four
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: your number five.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Also, maybe he's not controversial Cameron Green. I yeah, he's
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: had an awful summer, a really bad summer.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: He would know that.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: But I think he has the talent to be a
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: great Test cricket. I still think that talent's there. He
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: finished the summer with a shield hundred in Sydney in
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: what proved, you know, really important knock for him after
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: a bad summer.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: But he contributes to the ball.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: He's a gun in gully and I still think he
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: has the makings of a great Test cricketer.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm sicking with him for now. I think.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: What you've said is what the selectors are most likely
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: to go with. I've gone in a different path. I
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: wrestled with this one for a long time. I thought
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: about I thought about Pete Hanscombe. See if you shild
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: leting run score. I thought about Green, I thought about
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: dropping Renshort down to five. I've ended up with Curtis
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Patterson from New South Wales. I think that one hundred
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and seventy three not out that he scored in Shield.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: That's the best innings anybody's played in Shield cricket. Maybe
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Alex Cary's one hundred final overtakes it, but I think,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and then my thinking is all in the next twelve months.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking any longer term than next year's ashes.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So the next twelve months we know all the big
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: series there and a World chest Championship final likely as well,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: so I'm not worried about age for this twelve months.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I'm having Curtis Patterson. I love certainly starting there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I love to see a little bit more consistency from
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: him in the red bull stuff. He was the best
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: one day better and domestic cricket this summer, but he
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: just wasn't converting enough starts into big scool cricket.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: That's his white bull runs.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Because I think fifty other cricket and Test cricket close,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think they're even closer together in terms of what
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you need to do as a batsman than one day
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: cricket and T twenty cricket, and his one day form
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: bumped him above Handskim for me, so I'm hoping he
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: can translate. Just but just pretend it's fifty.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Have a match.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But like that, you get one hundred, you won't get
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: out number six. We both have Alex carry a batting six.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Even though that we could keep it normally, go seven,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: he went up to six. Did fine, you're number seven,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: bo Webson. He's always performed in the Test side. Every
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: time he's had a chance. They he's contributed. No big
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: hundreds or anything, but he has so often rescued that side,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: particularly in the West Indies and the Caribbean tour. He
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: was unlucky to miss out during the first half the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Ashes series.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: He gets his chance back in and nails it once
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: again with a few wickets important runs for me.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: He's a great number seven.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I think he balances the side really well and his
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: value will be massive. I think during the Border Gavescot Trophy,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I think he's versatility, thinking about anywhere from three down
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: to eight really and he can bol a bit of
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: off spin on those turning decks. I think he's a
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: muscle in that side for India, but he's just performed
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: too well to ignore him.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I am Bo Webster as well at number seven, so
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I'm Cameron Green not in my eleven right now. I'm
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: not writing him off entirely. I think he'll be certainly
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on the plane to South Africa in the squad.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: He'll probably be in the squad for Bangladesh as well.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Just right I just want to see a little bit more,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and I don't even know what I want to see
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: because he goes back to Sheld Cricket and he gets
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: one hundred. It's just I think I can't drop bow Webster.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I can't stomach moving Green up in the order any
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: higher than six. So I don't want him at five.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I'll have Patterson or Hanskim or someone else at five.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So at the moment, I'm Green out, which I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: think the selectors will do. I think Green will begin.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I think we saw Green at three last year, which
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: A lot of people didn't like.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: He got I think one solid booking fifty in the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: West Indies, but the way that he throwed that summer
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I dropped from three down to five, down to seven.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think finished up at number eight during the Sydney Tests.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: It was a really sort of perfect example of how
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: far his batting had dropped in how unreliable.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: He was in that Test side. But I just think
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: he's a gun. He's a gun.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: He looks so good when he's on and I think
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: he can be a match in both thousands of the game.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think him and Webster the same side
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: will work really well.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I can tell you with both of this we both struggled,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: so it's not going to be an easy thing for
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the selectors to pick. Heading into that Test in Bangladesh
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: coming up, we speak, We go inside the South Australian
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Sheffield Shield winning camp and we speak to their quick,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Henry Thornton. Well, it is our great privilege to be
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: joined by one of the winners of the Sheffield Shield
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: South Australian Quick, Henry Thornton. Henry, thanks so much for
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: joining us. We get the first and most important things
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: out of the way. First, did you find somewhere to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: celebrate on a Monday afternoon in Melbourne? And who was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: best on ground in the celebrations.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: We did?
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were lucky enough because the game kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: finished early enough, so yeah, we had a fair crack
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: at it. We were in the sheds with our families
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: and partners who had traveled across for the game. We're
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: in there for about a few hours and then yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: we did find somewhere to Yeah, to let loose last night.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: It was good based on ground. I'm going to go
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Betty min Enti. He's pretty good at it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: And the team flew back to Adelaide this morning. What
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: to the next couple of days look like for yourself
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and the teammates.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: We're just going to keep celebrating. We're just going to
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: keep celebrating. I think there'll be a few cold yeers
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: floating around. So we've got a parade this afternoon down
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: at Random Wall, so we're going to do that and
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: then yeah, let the good times role.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: We'll go to end the season awards night tomorrow night.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll just keep partying. Lost pretty good at the.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Moment and the celebrations began. You played a key moment
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you took the last week hit. I think that was
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: scenes every club cricket in the country can relate to.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: When you take the last week it, everybody around you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: tell her.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's what it was like to be in the middle
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of that throng. Ah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Honestly, so many people asking me yesterday and I still
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: don't believe it, like in terms of it just did shock.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: It's again like it's days like yesterday.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Why you play cricket, right, And I guess it's why
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you as a kid. You dream of opportunities like that
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: and for it to come to fruition.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Was just amazing. So yeah, our group so special.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: We love each other and you would have seen it
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: in the scenes yesterday when I took that final wicket.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Everyone was just so happy that we got the shield
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and brought it back to South Australia.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: If we go back a couple of days, Victoria had
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: gotten a sizable first innings lead about sixty odd runs,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: and then the South Stralian top order stumbled a little
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: bit early and then Nathan McAndrew walked out. Was there
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: a moment where you felt that maybe the game was
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: slipping away from South Australia a little bit?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I just lost it for two seconds, but yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: talking about Nathan McAndrew, mate, he battered like Bradman.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: He was amazing and cares as well. He just showed
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: why he's.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: He's a testkeeper for a reason, right, So every time
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: he comes back and plays, who else he performs. He's
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: so great to have around the group. But yeah, Maka
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: obviously one player player of the final and thoroughly deserved
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: a beat bold outstanding Lee but also that innings yests
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: to get us out of trouble was insane. So yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: lucky to have both of them in our team. The
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: great guys and they fight and they do anything for
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: our team.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You had a great final as well, Henry three wickets
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: in both innings.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You've really built a roster.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Of depth in South Australia with you quicks. There was you,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Nathan McAndrew, Jordan Buckingham and Liam Scott the all rounder
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: all in the top twenty. Wic could take is for
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the Shield this season and led by your coach Ryan Harris,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: another great quick. You've really built such a great depth
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: in your fast bowling stocks and you all seem to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: work off each other really well.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah we do. I think that's just the culture that
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: we wanted to build at Sucker.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Rhino's obviously come in his second year in the role
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and he's gone back to back but.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: That's just what he's built.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like anyone who comes into our team does
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: their role really well, does their job really well. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I think like last year when we won it, we
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: use twenty three out of twenty six squad members, so
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: it takes a full squad to win trophies.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: And that's something we speak about, is you're playing in
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: our team, the right to play in our.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Team, and if you are playing in our team, everyone has.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Full faith and that you're going to get it done.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's amazing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Look, we obviously it's really hard to leave guys out
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: as well, like I got left out last year in
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: the final, but you know, totally understood it. And whoever
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: goes in and does a job, they just get it done.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: So I think that's what we're building and it's pretty
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: special to be able to do it and keep this.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: If we can keep this group together, we're going to
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: probably you know, hopefully win a few more titles.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: During the postmatch presentation, Nath mc andrews spoke about how
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: it was particularly special to go back to back because
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: it was proof that last year it wasn't a fluke.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: There's a dynasty building here in South Australia. Is that
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the feeling among the group that it felt really special
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: to justify and back it up in consecutive years.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've always spoken about building something really special. Now
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: obviously going back to back helps that. But if we
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: can keep this group together, we're all great mates off
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the field, we love playing with each other. If we
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: can keep them all together, kind of the sky's the limit.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: And we also, you know, we really like to produce
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: some Australian players as well, and I think winning winning
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: trophies helps that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: So we're moving in the right direction.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: And hopefully this is you know, we can add some
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: more silverware along the way.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Talking about the great bond that you have with your teammates, Henry,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: does some of that come from the fact that quite
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of you are not South Australian born and bred.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You've come from other states because you weren't getting the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: opportunity in your home states. South Australia have extended that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: opportunity to you. And there's you, there's Jason Sanger, Henry Hunt,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Liam Scott even was from another state. Like all these
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: guys that come from other states and South Australia are
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: giving you that opportunity and you've all just seized it
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: with both hands.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a pretty unique situation, right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: So we're all obviously well, there's a fair few of
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: us who have come from into state looking for an opportunity,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and I guess that's probably galvanized our team. We're all
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: a great bunch of blokes as well, and I think
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that really helps in a team environment.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: We're all also very invest sit in each.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Other's success, like we actually genuinely want people to do well.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think you would have seen that
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: yesterday when all of our players who you know, our
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: squad members who weren't in the Shield squad were there.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: They flew down to Melbourne. They stayed the week.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's an amazing culture that we're building.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: But it's also it's just it's great to see guys
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: get an opportunity, right, Like I didn't get an opportunity
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a New so Huales and then you know went through Victoria.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Now I'm at South Australia, so I think, you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: you got to go somewhere. We're going to get an
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: opportunity and it's just great to do it with a
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: great bunch of blokes who've done it the hard.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Way, gone through club cricket.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And I think that's probably why you saw the raw
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: emotion yesterday of us on the field, because we know
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: how hard it is to get in a system and
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: have success.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And he touched on how important is to produce Australian players.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: We saw your teammate Brendan Doggett make us test abut
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: during the Ashes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: He helped Australia win that series.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Who else from your squad would you love to see
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: inn a baking Green Caps some time over the next
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: eighteen months. You yourself have had a couple of Australia opportunities,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: have nailed that and no doubt would be really eager
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to push for that spot. But who else for your
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: teammates do you think is ready for that next step?
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I think Nathan McAndrew is, and I think he should
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: be in the conversation.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know why he's not in the conversation.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: He's a guru, he's so skillful with the ball he's
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: got he's got a great motor, he can bowl anywhere.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think Nathan mc andrew, I'd love to
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: see our batters like I think Jason Sugger and Nathan McSweeney.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I'd love to see them push push for the national.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Selection, but at the moment it's a bit weird because
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: we kind of feel like if we keep winning stuff,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: it's going to kind of take care of itself. So
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: hopefully if we keep winning trophies, we can get you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: three or four South Australians in that team.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Plenty of South Australians in the National Conversation. I'm sure Henry,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: we might let you go and give your voice a break.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I can tell it's been a big night of celebrating.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, and congratulations on your
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: chef you shield title.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Nah, thanks boys, I appreciate it. Yeah, we're gonna have
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: a few more beers to recond