Latest / The Diva Details / When His Drive Fades: The Truth About Men's Midlife Libido
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- 0:00Welcome to the Diva Details. Welcome to the Diva Details.
- 0:05Where bold, confident women embrace life unapologetically.
- 0:10From love and sex to wellness and reinvention. We keep it safe.
- 0:30Well, hello. Today we're going to talk about men's libido. Last time we talked
- 0:34about libido for women and how it affects your sex drive and how your hormones
- 0:40drive your libido as well as stress, etc.
- 0:42But let's talk about men because men are different.
- 0:45I think sometimes we think that, you know, people are the same,
- 0:48but men are extremely different with their libido.
- 0:51What changes in men's libido, midlife, it really does affect men as well.
- 0:55So let's talk about something that we whisper about, ladies,
- 0:59but we rarely understand it.
- 1:00It's like sometimes we say he used to want you consistently,
- 1:03and now his libido has decreased.
- 1:06Now he's distant. It doesn't mean he's cheating. He might be moody,
- 1:10he might be tired, or worse, he's just distracted.
- 1:13And then someone says, is it a midlife crisis?
- 1:15Is he being selfish? Men are dogs. Men are cheaters.
- 1:19That doesn't mean that's what's happening. What we find is that his libido has dropped as well.
- 1:26And men have to get on hormones just like women.
- 1:29We think that we're affected significantly by hormones, but men,
- 1:33as they age, their libido change is based off of hormones.
- 1:36Today, we're going to discuss hormones.
- 1:38We're also going to discuss psychology for men, something that's not often talked
- 1:42about. Then why midlife hits men differently?
- 1:45Some men do cheat, and I understand that, and that's a sad state for men and
- 1:52their character and their value system, but it does happen.
- 1:55We'll discuss a little bit about that, and then we'll talk about how you can
- 1:58help your man through his transition, because a lot of men don't want to go see a doctor.
- 2:03So we're going to go there today. We're going to talk about it all.
- 2:06Let's get started first with the science and psychology of it.
- 2:10Men's libido is not just about testosterone.
- 2:12It's about the hormone testosterone, but it's also about other hormones.
- 2:16And dopamine, so their joy hormone, and their identity. A lot of times men,
- 2:21as they age, they feel like they're losing their identity.
- 2:24They might have been the sports star. And you'll hear it when men are losing
- 2:28their identity because they talk about it.
- 2:30Back in the day, I used to do this or I used to do that.
- 2:32Now they've gained weight and now they're starting to get gray hair or they're
- 2:37starting to get wrinkles. And it can cause a major problem.
- 2:41Another problem men have is a performance anxiety. If they've had erectile dysfunction,
- 2:45we'll say, in the past, they could have performance anxiety that if they have
- 2:50intimacy, if they get intimate with you, that it might not work.
- 2:54Performance anxiety is a real thing for men.
- 2:56Then the aging anxiety, they realize their bodies are changing as well.
- 3:00They realize they're not as in good a shape as they used to be.
- 3:03Their back hurts. Their knees hurt. They might snore more.
- 3:07They could have sleep apnea. All of these things. They could have high blood
- 3:10pressure, high cholesterol. all.
- 3:13All of these things impact an aging anxiety in men. Then there's stress as well.
- 3:18They could have a lot of career pressure going on.
- 3:20In your 40s, 50s, and 60s, it seems to be that you have more career pressure.
- 3:25You are making more money, and there's a pressure to make sure that you stay at a certain level.
- 3:30That career pressure can affect a man's libido. At the same time,
- 3:34there's also mortality awareness.
- 3:36They are also aware that they don't have as many years left as they used to.
- 3:40So that can also drive a midlife crisis.
- 3:43Midlife activates it all, and
- 3:46all of it comes impacting a man's ability to perform and their sex drive.
- 3:52Men gradually decrease testosterone starting at the age 30, and they don't even realize it.
- 3:58There are men that I've run into that at 35, they're already on testosterone.
- 4:04Because every year after age 30, a man drops his testosterone by 1% a year.
- 4:09Some men already have low testosterone, ladies, even in their 20s.
- 4:13They have lower testosterone than they should have, and they start dropping
- 4:161% per year, and they wonder why they're losing muscle mass,
- 4:21or they're gaining weight, or their libido is not working, or they even have erectile dysfunction.
- 4:25It's all related to their testosterone.
- 4:28By age 50, most men have lost 20% or more of their testosterone.
- 4:34And so low testosterone can affect your erectile function.
- 4:38So if they're having erectile difficulty, If they are not as intimate or desiring
- 4:44as much as they used to, it very well may be testosterone.
- 4:47They'll also increase body fat and their muscle mass will go down.
- 4:51They're going to feel weaker. They're not going to feel as strong as they used to be.
- 4:54It can cause a lot of irritability, some depression, and some men try to fake
- 4:58through it. I've seen it happen.
- 5:00But you can see through it when it's a testosterone thing. And they get brain
- 5:03fog and they forget things.
- 5:05Now, I know men a lot of times say, I didn't hear you say that or I forgot.
- 5:09Well, a lot of that can be linked to low testosterone.
- 5:13The brain fog is a real thing, ladies, for men. They're not just being disrespectful.
- 5:16It's a real thing. And on top of that, their motivation to do anything goes
- 5:20down. They may just want to sit in a chair.
- 5:22You see the older man sitting in a chair just not wanting to move.
- 5:25Lack of motivation is due to testosterone as well. So normal testosterone ranges
- 5:30are 300 to 1000 NG slash DL. If your man is,
- 5:36has lower than 300, he can be seriously having a testosterone problem.
- 5:41But most symptoms start when men get below 450. So they're going to start seeing
- 5:46symptoms when they get below 450. They may get weaker.
- 5:50They may get depressed. They may have anxiety.
- 5:53So testosterone increases depression in men. And some men even get suicidal.
- 5:58This is an important thing to address.
- 5:59It can be up to four times as likely due to lack of testosterone for men.
- 6:03That's why you're seeing such a higher suicide rate, I think,
- 6:07as men are getting older.
- 6:08Men are less likely to feel sad. They're not going to say, I feel sad,
- 6:12even though they may feel it. Even though they're sad, they'll just put a smiley face on.
- 6:16They can say they're tired, they're stressed, they don't care.
- 6:20But feeling sad for men, for some reason, there's something in the male character,
- 6:23they just don't want to say it. Your dopamine also decreases.
- 6:27Testosterone fuels your dopamine. If they don't have desire,
- 6:30or they're not taking any risks lately, or they don't want to achieve anything
- 6:34or they don't want to pursue you sexually, a lot of it has to do with dopamine, ladies.
- 6:40Their happy hormone's just not working because of their testosterone so low.
- 6:43As soon as testosterone drops, their dopamine drops. They could come home from
- 6:47work and say nothing's wrong and they're happy and they're fine,
- 6:50but inside they feel sad.
- 6:52Or they feel tired, or they feel a little stressed, and a lot of it's not anything
- 6:57to do with you. It's just their testosterone.
- 7:00What happens is when you have low dopamine and low testosterone,
- 7:03your motivation is going to go down to do anything.
- 7:05They're not going to want to get off the couch. They're going to want to sit and watch TV.
- 7:09They're going to not want to fix the stuff they were supposed to fix.
- 7:12They might even have brain fog and forget what was supposed to be fixed.
- 7:14There'll be less excitement in their life, and they're going to reduce their sexual initiation.
- 7:19Sometimes women, I will say, in our 50s, our sexual initiation gets stronger and men get less.
- 7:25As we discussed in a podcast before, the amount of times you have sex is based
- 7:28off the least desiring partner.
- 7:31If your partner doesn't desire sex now because his testosterone has dropped,
- 7:36you may be like, what the heck is going on? Is he cheating? What's going on?
- 7:39It's just because he doesn't feel like it anymore. It can also feel like he stopped trying.
- 7:44And it can make you sad and it can mess with your dopamine as well.
- 7:48But biologically, his drive system may be down-regulating.
- 7:51You know, you see these older men, really older, with these younger women.
- 7:55And it's funny because it may
- 7:57just be that those younger women don't have as much of a sexual desire.
- 8:00Because when you get older, their sexual desire decreases unless they upregulate their hormones.
- 8:06Midlife, ladies, it's when 10 to 20% of adults experience a true midlife crisis.
- 8:12It happens more in men. I think you see it when they're driving the red Corvette
- 8:15or they step out on their wives or they do something stupid.
- 8:21Just, and it's part of a midlife crisis. They're more likely to act outwardly,
- 8:25whereas women, a lot of times with our midlife crisis, we're like,
- 8:28self-reflect, what do we need to do with our businesses?
- 8:31How can we do more? How can we become what we wanna be? Whereas men go buy a car.
- 8:37Or they cheat, or they quit their job and decide to do something crazy,
- 8:41or they date women that were just not typical for them to date.
- 8:46Women are more likely to internalize, like reinvent our career,
- 8:50go to therapy, work on our health, work on our bodies, whereas men,
- 8:53they want to go buy a car. They want to have an affair.
- 8:56They want to quit their job. They want to go try to be free to get that oomph
- 9:00back that they're missing.
- 9:01That oomph is that dopamine hit. They're not feeling it because their testosterone is so low.
- 9:06Male identity is often wrapped around and structured around their career success.
- 9:11If their career is stagnant, they're not feeling very happy about it.
- 9:15If their sexual vitalities, they're not able to perform like they used to,
- 9:19they could have a serious need for a midlife crisis.
- 9:22Also, they have a physical strength that women, we don't have,
- 9:26and when they start to get weaker and they can't lift as much,
- 9:29and maybe you're working out and you're lifting more, it can be very intimidating for a man.
- 9:34They also like to have the provider role in mind. If they can't provide,
- 9:39ladies, and you're now the one providing, it can cause a midlife crisis.
- 9:44If they have all four, it's dangerous.
- 9:47Midlife disrupts all four. So by 45 to 50, a lot of times men's plateau in their career.
- 9:54They're not moving upward. They're just kind of stagnant.
- 9:56And there's younger competitive people entering the workforce and maybe even showing them up.
- 10:02And then on top of that, their body's starting to change. They're starting to
- 10:05get a little bit of a belly, possibly.
- 10:07They haven't been working out as much. Their muscles may be going down.
- 10:10Men, if you can during this crisis, don't go out and cheat on your wives.
- 10:15Go to the gym. Work out any frustration you have about your career or younger
- 10:20competitors in the gym because that will help drive your testosterone as well. Go lift weights.
- 10:26This will help your sexual vitality as well. And I know that for men at this
- 10:30age, it takes longer to recover.
- 10:32Don't hit it as hard as you did in football in high school, but go lift some
- 10:36weights because it will help with your rectile performance as well because your
- 10:40rectile performance might fluctuate.
- 10:42Again, why it's so important to have testosterone at this age.
- 10:45Also, you may have a midlife crisis just because you look back and you're like,
- 10:49wow, my father died at this age or my mother died at this age and I'm this age.
- 10:54I don't have many years left. I want to sow my oats. Men go through that, ladies.
- 10:58Sometimes children are independent. So men are like, let me branch out because
- 11:03mortality becomes real for men.
- 11:06They really reflect hard on this because, ladies, remember, women tend to live longer than men.
- 11:12We don't get this until our 60s or 70s, whereas men are feeling it in their
- 11:1540s and 50s. It may become a real thing.
- 11:18They may say, I want to go find a new person because I'd only have a few years
- 11:22left. And they want every experience to be exciting.
- 11:26A psychologist will call it, it's called status threat plus mortality awareness.
- 11:32So maybe their career is going down and they realize they don't have much life left.
- 11:36Or their body's changing and they want to sow some oats. That combination can
- 11:41trigger what's called the midlife crisis, and it impacts families.
- 11:45And you'll see a lot of divorces of men between 40 and 60.
- 11:50But let's be careful about this because cheating is a choice.
- 11:53If you are a man and you go out and cheat, that's your choice.
- 11:57But psychology and therapy could help to avoid that because infidelity rates
- 12:02tend to peak for men right around 55 to 60.
- 12:05By the time they're 60, they're less and less infidelity.
- 12:08Most men are cheating between 40 and 60, and it's due to the midlife crisis
- 12:12on top of other issues as well.
- 12:14But cheating is a choice, men and ladies, for you as well.
- 12:18If you choose to cheat on your partner, that's on you. It's not on your partner.
- 12:23Stop the blaming and the deflecting when you cheat. It's just on you.
- 12:28The reality is most men, their estimated lifetime for infidelity is about 20%
- 12:33of married men and about 13% to 15% of married women.
- 12:37Only 20% of married men are going to cheat. Only 13% to 15% of married women are going to cheat.
- 12:43When that happens, it can happen more than once, don't get me wrong.
- 12:46That's why you say once a cheater, always a cheater. But when 20% of married
- 12:51men are cheating, and 13% to 15% of married women are cheating,
- 12:55and then they cheat again, that's the person. It doesn't count twice.
- 12:59Midlife cheating is often like validation seeking to make sure that you still
- 13:04have it, or you still got it. Sometimes men cheat with younger women.
- 13:08Sometimes men cheat with older women. They just want to cheat.
- 13:12It can be sexual performance reassurance. It can be a dopamine spike for men
- 13:17because it's something new.
- 13:19Person gone. And men also have a fear of aging again.
- 13:23Makes them feel like they're not invisible because if they're having career
- 13:26issues, they may not feel visible anymore.
- 13:30It can cause an identity panic. When a younger woman shows interest in a man,
- 13:34sometimes it's such an ego boost for them.
- 13:36It makes them feel powerful. It makes them feel like they have relevance in the world again.
- 13:41It is less about sex for men than it is about feeling an ego and being big in their head.
- 13:47I think a lot of men, they don't really care about the connection.
- 13:50They just want to feel good about themselves.
- 13:52Again, that's why I think you see a lot of older men dating really young women.
- 13:56It's about their ego boost. It just shows a level of insecurity,
- 13:59honestly, in men. It's less about sex.
- 14:01It's more about identity restoration. If that's what they need, that's fine.
- 14:06But the destruction that men are leaving in their path and the destruction that
- 14:09women are leaving is really sad.
- 14:11Try to find other ways and other outlets to boost your ego, like going to the
- 14:15gym and working out, maybe get a new hobby.
- 14:18It's not an excuse to have your ego boosted.
- 14:21But it does explain the psychological driver behind what men and women are doing
- 14:26when they have affairs during their midlife crisis.
- 14:29What happens a lot of times is you lose a partner, too.
- 14:32If a man lost a partner or a woman lost a partner, they relied on their partner,
- 14:37whether it was through divorce or whether there was a death.
- 14:40That partner was a primary emotional support. They could have been their best
- 14:44friend. They were also kind of a live-in therapist, if you will,
- 14:47and they helped regulate their emotions.
- 14:50When you lose that partner, you no longer have that. Now you're on your own.
- 14:54Even if a man finds another partner, it's not going to be the same because they
- 14:58might have been married for a long time. That regulation is important.
- 15:02Men seek out other partners that fulfill that need and sometimes they can find
- 15:05it and sometimes they can't.
- 15:07Men statistically have fewer close friends than men and women, we rely on each other.
- 15:12We rely on each other to help us through tough situations.
- 15:16Men don't have that. If they do have relationships, if a relationship declines
- 15:20or in, a man experiences higher depression rates, higher chance of suicide, and substance abuse.
- 15:27You'll see it in men that are becoming alcoholics, or you go to a bar and it's
- 15:30filled with middle-aged to 50, 60s, and 70-year-old men because they're drinking it out.
- 15:36They're trying to drink their sorrows instead of talking to a friend.
- 15:39Men over 50 have one of the highest suicide rates of any demographic group. It's really sad.
- 15:45A lot of it is due to their actions and their choices.
- 15:48It's not because they're weak. It's because many men were never taught how to
- 15:52regulate their emotions, how to discuss their emotions with someone.
- 15:57Then they lose their partner and they don't know how to work it out.
- 16:00I'm hoping that today we can work on helping our men so they don't go through some of this.
- 16:06Let's move on to some solutions. One of the things you can do,
- 16:09ladies and gentlemen, is things you can do like encourage hormone testing.
- 16:13I noticed that a lot of men are adverse to going to see a doctor and they don't want to get tested.
- 16:21Sometimes, ladies, you're going to have to set the appointment for them just
- 16:23to tell you the truth because they won't even schedule it.
- 16:26One of the things you can say is I've noticed you seem more tired and less yourself lately.
- 16:30Would you be open to checking your hormones? Some people say testosterone.
- 16:33I recommend overall hormones and your overall labs because I want you to feel
- 16:38stronger and feel good about yourself.
- 16:40That's a nice way to say it in a supportive way instead of attacking them saying
- 16:44sex is just terrible or something like that.
- 16:47Make it about their strength, not their dysfunction.
- 16:50The following labs are the ones you should be. You should be checking out all
- 16:52of these labs whenever you go for your testosterone test. So check out your total testosterone.
- 16:58And ladies, you can do this too. your free testosterone, your SHBG,
- 17:03your estradiol, because that's like an estrogen test so that you know.
- 17:07If the man's becoming more estrogen-dominant, thyroid, vitamin D,
- 17:12their lipids, that's going to tell if they have high cholesterol,
- 17:14and their fasting glucose to see if they might be type 2 diabetic.
- 17:18And some people just are low on vitamin D. That's a common thing as well,
- 17:22especially if they have SAD, which is seasonal-adjusted depression.
- 17:26During the wintertime, they may not have enough vitamin D.
- 17:30Low testosterone, when it's treated and medically appropriate,
- 17:34you can boost your libido. And your man may come back to the mood he was in
- 17:38before and happier and more joyful and playful.
- 17:42And his muscle mass will increase, which will help with his metabolic health
- 17:46and his metabolic strength. He will be stronger and feel more like himself.
- 17:51Testosterone really does affect a lot of things for men, even more so than women.
- 17:56It affects us as well, but we have a whole slew of cocktail of hormones we have to keep in balance.
- 18:02And once his testosterone is more in balance, his ego will feel better,
- 18:08and he won't be looking out there at other things to satisfy his lack of ego or his lack of security.
- 18:15And erectile difficulty, although it does increase with age,
- 18:19the testosterone will greatly help this.
- 18:21Because by age 40, 40% of men have had some degree of erectile dysfunction where
- 18:27they were hot and heavy and it just didn't work.
- 18:30And by age 70, 70% are having difficulty with erectile function.
- 18:35But it still works. So you can still make it work at the age of 70 men.
- 18:40You don't have to always go for Viagra, because we're talking about keeping
- 18:44desire going. And testosterone helps with that.
- 18:47Really, honestly, once you go on testosterone, you're going to be on testosterone
- 18:50for the rest of your life. Just understand that.
- 18:53Most people that are on testosterone are doing a shot once a week or once every
- 18:56two weeks, depending on your dosage. Then other people are doing creams and
- 19:01it just depends on what your physician prescribes to you.
- 19:05But it's not a joke. We shouldn't make jokes about our hormonal function because
- 19:09it's extremely important.
- 19:11They may be disappointed and withdraw from the conversation,
- 19:14but try to encourage them to talk it out because men have difficulty with that.
- 19:19You don't have to rush it. You're just trying to be close to them and help them out.
- 19:23Because performance anxiety is one of the biggest libido killers in aging men.
- 19:27If they have performance anxiety, don't laugh at them. Show support and don't
- 19:32show disappointment. Instead, help them restore their function.
- 19:36Help them get back on testosterone if they've gone off of it.
- 19:40Help them find a way forward for them. Because they're going to need it for mental focus as well.
- 19:45A midlife crisis often isn't about a sports car. It's about them not knowing who they are anymore.
- 19:51They feel lost. They may have lost their identity. And we go through this too.
- 19:55A lot of times we go through this when we get divorced or when our children
- 19:58go off to college or when things change in relationships or we lose a spouse.
- 20:03Men go through it as well, ladies, so let's give them a little bit of grace,
- 20:06but encourage them to go and do strength training three to five times a week.
- 20:11A lot of men get into CrossFit because it helps with their testosterone and help them set goals.
- 20:17A lot of men need to set new goals and the goals that need to be achievable so they can meet them.
- 20:22I do believe a lot in stretch goals, but let's make sure that they can hit the goals.
- 20:26Then mentorship can help with other men, other men that may have gone through this.
- 20:31There's male coaching out there that can help.
- 20:34There's therapists that help men that are going through a transition.
- 20:38It is a transition. Even though men don't have menopause, they are now calling
- 20:43it menopause because of the testosterone shift and some of the hormonal shifts.
- 20:47I think men need to get out there and try new things.
- 20:50Try to go on an adventure, go on a fishing trip.
- 20:53Having male friends is a good thing as well. Develop a new skill because anything
- 20:57new is going to encourage you. So.
- 21:01To stay straight and narrow and not cheat on your spouse, but will also help
- 21:05with your testosterone.
- 21:07Testosterone naturally rises naturally with resistance training.
- 21:11You don't have to go and lift a ton of weight, but if you do resistance training,
- 21:16you're going to get 15 to 25 percent boost in a week with resistance training.
- 21:23But men, you do need to have a purpose because it's part of your drive.
- 21:27It helps you feel respected and challenged.
- 21:31When you have a purpose, your purpose helps you feel competent in your life.
- 21:36But ladies, we need to support their growth without mothering.
- 21:40Because they do need to take charge of their lives. They need to take charge of their health.
- 21:44Because if you weren't around, what would they be doing? They need to understand
- 21:48how to take care of themselves.
- 21:50Most likely, they'll live a happier, longer life. So long-term relationships,
- 21:55when dopamine gets down, it really dampens the relationship.
- 21:59Some of the things you can do that are new together that might help the relationship
- 22:03is go out to a nice dinner that's in a new restaurant or go travel.
- 22:07Any type of new environments will help with intimacy as well.
- 22:11Surprise them with intimacy. Maybe get some lingerie.
- 22:15Surprise them by doing some flirty texts or doing a roll shift for something.
- 22:19Maybe you could work on the car and they come in and they do the dishes.
- 22:22I don't know if that's going to work, but do a roll shift for something.
- 22:26Then a lot of times you can help your man by helping him reset on the weekends,
- 22:30because it may be that during the week he's just so stressed out, his sex drive is down.
- 22:34But on the weekends, he's very encouraged and he's very into you.
- 22:38But novelty increases dopamine as well. So that will help dopamine even if their testosterone is down.
- 22:44And then sexual interest in both sexes will go up.
- 22:47Trying something new helps with sexual intimacy. I would say that emotional
- 22:52disconnection, the sooner you nip it in the bud,
- 22:55the better. Because you want to feel like your partner has sexual intimacy with
- 23:01you, not that you're roommates.
- 23:02You may miss that feeling of connection and that feeling of intimacy.
- 23:06You need to find out what's making them feel different lately.
- 23:09If it's not testosterone, it may be stress affecting their testosterone.
- 23:14Or it may be other things, but men often open up when they're not cornered. Be gentle.
- 23:19Timing matters too. Don't do it after they just had and erectile dysfunction
- 23:24in sex. Don't do it when you're in the middle of a fight.
- 23:27Because that's not a good way to address issues with their hormones.
- 23:31Because then it feels like you're deflecting.
- 23:34Also, don't do it when he's exhausted. If he comes home exhausted,
- 23:36it's not a good time to talk about him helping his health. Because he just wants to go to sleep.
- 23:41Here's the truth. Midlife doesn't have to destroy your remarriage.
- 23:44It doesn't have to destroy your relationship.
- 23:46And it doesn't have to destroy you, men. It's just a destabilizing thing that
- 23:50happens to your identify.
- 23:51Because you built so much of your identity in your 20s and 30s. And now it's shifting.
- 23:56Now it's changing. But when your libido drops, it may not mean that your man
- 24:01doesn't love you, ladies.
- 24:02It doesn't mean he's not attracted to you or that he's cheating.
- 24:04It may just mean that he's focused on other things.
- 24:07Now it may, because men do cheat, but only about 20%, ladies.
- 24:11It's not as rampant as you may think. It could be his hormones.
- 24:15It could be that he's lost his purpose. Maybe his kids have gone off to school. His body is changing.
- 24:20His mortality is becoming real. And his ego feels very fragile right now.
- 24:25Be careful and give him grace when you talk to him.
- 24:28Men don't always know what to say. You need to lead him and guide him because
- 24:31desire in men is tied to his vitality.
- 24:35Guide him through this. His vitality is tied to his identity and his identity
- 24:39must evolve or it breaks and cracks into pieces.
- 24:43He may not know how to help his identity evolve, but that's where you can come
- 24:46in. You can help him with new things. You can help him go to the doctor.
- 24:50Offer assistance and a guiding hand, but don't be his mother.
- 24:53If this episode resonates, share it with a woman that's navigating the season or share it with a man.
- 24:59Because midlife doesn't have to be a crisis with hormonal therapy and the guiding
- 25:05of therapists and coaches and your partners.
- 25:09It can be a reinvention for men as well. Sometimes the strongest thing you can
- 25:13do is understand what's actually happening to your partner.
- 25:16So until next time, stay bold, stay wise, stay a diva. Take care and have a wonderful week.
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