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- 0:24Speaker 1: Good at everybody, welcome home. Know this is a Sports Exchange.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Guess what I thought I had a triple Hader, but
- 0:28Speaker 1: I got a double hader or Motor City Man Mount
- 0:31Speaker 1: show with Steve Ali Seris and rescheduled for tomorrow at
- 0:33Speaker 1: say forty five am Easter time. Nevertheless, we have the
- 0:36Speaker 1: Sports Exchange and we have a good crew and will
- 0:39Speaker 1: be probably adding as to go along. Cliff Neil's back
- 0:41Speaker 1: and out my daddy Cliff, thanks what and we have
- 0:45Speaker 1: Cody speak my main man. This guy where I go,
- 0:47Speaker 1: he goes. That's a beautiful thing. Amen, Amen, Marky Bilson
- 0:52Speaker 1: for being on here. This guy to me, I ended
- 0:54Speaker 1: up Medium North and I stole him out of nowhere?
- 0:58Speaker 1: What I I think that where? What was an NSM market?
- 1:01Speaker 1: I think I don't know.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I was living under a rock and h you know,
- 1:07Speaker 2: I'm glad to be out of it and under out
- 1:09Speaker 2: from underneath the rock.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Yeah. But I'll say you one thing though, I like
- 1:12Speaker 1: the hat. So we're gonna ask you to where.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Brian Johnson is my hero. So we were talking about
- 1:18Speaker 2: Metallica last week, So here we go.
- 1:20Speaker 1: You gotta where that hat. Now? You just need something
- 1:22Speaker 1: to look good that has the requirement when you come
- 1:25Speaker 1: out here now, and we got Candy, I'm bling our
- 1:27Speaker 1: crack statistician on here as well. Great to have you on, Candy.
- 1:30Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. Lina's round to cover. Hello,
- 1:33Speaker 1: Earl Kizzie. This guy is a friend of the show
- 1:36Speaker 1: and a whole lot more. All right, Well, you know what,
- 1:38Speaker 1: we'll start off with Andrew mccucheon because he's with the
- 1:41Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. Once a fun time he was with the
- 1:43Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates. This wound for you, Marky and everybody else.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Go ahead, what are your thoughts about him being a
- 1:50Speaker 1: Texas Ranger.
- 1:52Speaker 2: What I think is that it's just yet another move
- 1:55Speaker 2: where the Pirates screw up. It's you know, you cannot
- 2:00Speaker 2: understand how a team can be so inept for the
- 2:04Speaker 2: last forty years or so or ever some squilly starge over.
- 2:07Speaker 3: My hero retired here.
- 2:09Speaker 2: They had Cutcham begging to resign him, and they don't.
- 2:14Speaker 2: He winds up with a minor league deal in Texas,
- 2:18Speaker 2: starts hitting like crazy. Meanwhile, the center fielder that they
- 2:21Speaker 2: do have, O'Neil Cruz, can't catch a fly ball, and
- 2:26Speaker 2: they being the Pirates and all this you know, a
- 2:30Speaker 2: while back, I published and you can get this on medium,
- 2:34Speaker 2: Marky Bilson, The eighteen Undeniable Truths of Sports. This was
- 2:38Speaker 2: based on Rush Limbaugh's thirty five Undeniable Truths of Life
- 2:43Speaker 2: for you know and all that. It was eighteen Undeniable
- 2:45Speaker 2: Truths of Sports, and it was a franchise needs to
- 2:49Speaker 2: take care of its legends. The Buckos can't even do that.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel bad for you. But that's
- 2:56Speaker 1: why I opened the shoes. I need to get to crankin.
- 2:58Speaker 1: And that definitely did exactly that. Collect me a waird.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Thoughts about mister mccutchey going down to Texas.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Well, if you know the Pirates don't want him, I
- 3:07Speaker 4: don't know why they wouldn't want to do that. I mean,
- 3:09Speaker 4: he was such a good player for them for so long.
- 3:11Speaker 4: At least try to get a little bit of that
- 3:13Speaker 4: old school nostalgia. And he can still play. I mean,
- 3:16Speaker 4: it's not like you can't play did well in spring training.
- 3:19Speaker 4: He's the flue bats he's gotten, he's hitting out. He's
- 3:23Speaker 4: hitting there in Texas and I it's the Pirates. I yeah,
- 3:27Speaker 4: they've got schemes now, but I don't know they always
- 3:30Speaker 4: seem to screw screw things up. You know, they they
- 3:34Speaker 4: had a little bit of a thing in the early nineties.
- 3:36Speaker 4: But I don't know you think you'd think they just
- 3:40Speaker 4: okay you however you want long, you want to be here,
- 3:43Speaker 4: you can play here. You retire when you want to retire,
- 3:46Speaker 4: We're going to put up your retiering number. All that
- 3:49Speaker 4: puts you in our Hall of Fame. If I guess
- 3:52Speaker 4: that's just what it means to be the Pittsburgh Pirates.
- 3:55Speaker 4: It's it boggles my mind.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah, they do boggles feel like, all right, Cody, what
- 4:01Speaker 1: do you think the country doesn't feel a little feel
- 4:03Speaker 1: a lot of blaz should be in Pittsburgh.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, And it's funny because I'm looking at
- 4:08Speaker 5: Baseball Reference page and he's only ever spent twenty five
- 4:12Speaker 5: games in the AL his whole career. He's been in
- 4:15Speaker 5: the NL his whole career, played twenty five games with
- 4:18Speaker 5: the Yankees, and that's it. So just seeing him in
- 4:20Speaker 5: any other uniform other than Pittsburgh is just weird to me,
- 4:24Speaker 5: even though he did have that little stint in San
- 4:27Speaker 5: Francisco in Philly, But I said, he deserves to be
- 4:31Speaker 5: a Pirate. I'm surprised they didn't resign him. He should
- 4:34Speaker 5: have stayed there, retired there exactly what Cliff said, like,
- 4:38Speaker 5: you know, he'll be in the Pirates Hall of Fame
- 4:39Speaker 5: or retire his number. I mean, the guy's put up
- 4:42Speaker 5: great numbers for them, and he's been loyal to them,
- 4:44Speaker 5: so I wouldn't see why not.
- 4:46Speaker 6: And now look at him.
- 4:47Speaker 5: In four games, he's batting four fifty five, so I mean,
- 4:52Speaker 5: the guy can still play at thirty eight or sorry,
- 4:54Speaker 5: thirty nine.
- 4:56Speaker 2: I had just with the Pirates situation with them. I
- 5:00Speaker 2: swear that whenever somebody wants to play for them, they
- 5:04Speaker 2: think that, well, we can't have you first mccutch Twell,
- 5:07Speaker 2: McCutcheon now, but in the previous generation. It's April first,
- 5:11Speaker 2: thirty nine years ago today. I remember the Pirates trading
- 5:15Speaker 2: Tony Payania to the Saint Louis Cardinals for Andy Vans
- 5:19Speaker 2: like Mike Don and Mike Lavalier, and they said that
- 5:22Speaker 2: that was a great deal for the Bucko. They had
- 5:24Speaker 2: three players for one and I get that, but it
- 5:27Speaker 2: was the Saint Louis Cardinals. Based on the play of
- 5:29Speaker 2: Tony Penia in that year's National League Championship Series, it
- 5:33Speaker 2: went to the World Series. The Pirates are still waiting
- 5:36Speaker 2: on it. Like I said, I haven't made it since
- 5:38Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. Now I bring this up because Antonio
- 5:41Speaker 2: Francisco Pana at that time was one of the best
- 5:45Speaker 2: catchers in baseball and when the Bucks traded him to
- 5:49Speaker 2: Saint Louis a real contender. Keep in mind they had
- 5:52Speaker 2: finished in the last place three straight years. Tony Payna cried,
- 5:58Speaker 2: he was a Pirate and you don't have that now.
- 6:02Speaker 2: The entire identity has been destroyed. The I know in
- 6:07Speaker 2: this business were supposed to be objective.
- 6:09Speaker 3: We're not.
- 6:10Speaker 2: But my first love, the thing that maybe attracted me
- 6:13Speaker 2: to sports in general, was rooting for the Pittsburgh Pirates
- 6:16Speaker 2: as a little boy. Uh in Pittsburgh and hunting pa
- 6:21Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine, early eighties, Okay, and you know
- 6:26Speaker 2: that was a big thing in all this. And back
- 6:29Speaker 2: then the Pirates were thought to be winners in the
- 6:33Speaker 2: era of two two division playoffs, you know, before the
- 6:38Speaker 2: wild Cards and you only had the East and the West.
- 6:41Speaker 2: The Pirates won the most divisions in the history of
- 6:45Speaker 2: the National League. They won nine from sixty nine to
- 6:48Speaker 2: ninety three. Ninety two actually, but ninety three is last year.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Two divisions. They haven't won one since. I mean this
- 6:56Speaker 2: dramatic change from winners to losers. And yeah, you know
- 7:00Speaker 2: something I do think when you want to be here,
- 7:04Speaker 2: when you are the phrase of the face of the
- 7:06Speaker 2: franchise and they say, eh, Mary, you be better off
- 7:10Speaker 2: somewhere else, maybe that's one of the reasons why they
- 7:13Speaker 2: struggle so much, as well as Yes, let's face it,
- 7:17Speaker 2: it's a heck of a lot more difficult for the
- 7:19Speaker 2: small market teams in baseball to compete than it is
- 7:23Speaker 2: the big markets. But they've actually gotten out Pittsburgh because
- 7:26Speaker 2: they cry small market, small market, small market deb an
- 7:29Speaker 2: identity crisis is a town, that's true.
- 7:33Speaker 1: I have to admit though, I did enjoy watching Tony Kane.
- 7:36Speaker 1: You play catcher, right, yeah, yeah, catcher it on one knee,
- 7:42Speaker 1: wad block the ball and the catcher like I and
- 7:45Speaker 1: I enjoyed a Katie. So you're talked about McCutcheon. I
- 7:48Speaker 1: know you're waiting a bit talk about it.
- 7:51Speaker 7: On June tenth of twenty twenty five, McCutcheon hit his
- 7:54Speaker 7: sixth home run, made that that he passed Roberto Cleman
- 8:00Speaker 7: day in third place on Pirates franchise home run list
- 8:04Speaker 7: with two hundred and forty one home runs. Then, on
- 8:07Speaker 7: July twenty eighth, McCutcheon hit his tenth home run of
- 8:11Speaker 7: the season, becoming the eleventh player in Major league history
- 8:16Speaker 7: to record at least ten home runs in each of
- 8:20Speaker 7: their first seventeen seasons. He is among ten other players
- 8:28Speaker 7: Hank Aaron, Eddie Murray, Carl Yustremsky, Ferry Bonds, Albert Poohols,
- 8:34Speaker 7: Frank Robinson, Harold Bains, Mickey Mantle, Jeff Kent, and Willie McCovey.
- 8:39Speaker 7: What a list to be named in with them, some
- 8:44Speaker 7: amazing baseball players. And then on March fifth to twenty
- 8:49Speaker 7: twenty sixth, he signed a minor league contract. You can't
- 8:55Speaker 7: tell me the Pirates couldn't have signed him for a
- 8:59Speaker 7: lot less money than he was making before if he
- 9:01Speaker 7: if he signed with Texas on a minor league contract,
- 9:05Speaker 7: Big mistake, Pirates.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Yeah, man, take care of your legends. I mean it's
- 9:15Speaker 2: very simple. It does well for the you know the thing,
- 9:18Speaker 2: he gives you identity. The fans are happy. But in
- 9:21Speaker 2: this case you'd get a four p fifty hitter, someone
- 9:25Speaker 2: who can catch a fly ball, wouldn't have lostler. That's
- 9:29Speaker 2: an opening day Perhaps this doesn't seem to be that difficult.
- 9:36Speaker 6: Good luck?
- 9:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gosh, getting started. I mean, what I'm going
- 9:43Speaker 1: to do. Here's what I'm gonna do on next week's
- 9:46Speaker 1: edition of the Sports Exchange. I'm glad you brought that
- 9:49Speaker 1: up since I got you on your bills, and I
- 9:51Speaker 1: actually went out there and interviewed Joe Scope, you know,
- 9:54Speaker 1: the play right play guy, and I'm gonna actually have
- 9:58Speaker 1: a SoundBite for a few minutes on that. It was
- 10:00Speaker 1: a fifteen minute interview, but we'll stick it on here
- 10:02Speaker 1: for a few minutes. You like that, Yeah, why not? Yes?
- 10:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know I got a Pittford guy. I
- 10:12Speaker 1: don't make sure we have that in there. So we're
- 10:14Speaker 1: going to Pittsford to La. We're talking about the Angels
- 10:16Speaker 1: and Mike Trout, who signed a contract extension for four
- 10:19Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six point five million with the LA Angels.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Guess what, though, Mike Trout hit his fifth career opening
- 10:26Speaker 1: day home run and he's actually opening day numbers are
- 10:29Speaker 1: one for two with a home run, three walks, and
- 10:32Speaker 1: it's still one base. Kind of like that one Cody.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm loving the start for Trout. Notice I didn't
- 10:41Speaker 5: say anything else after that, but no, Mike Trout. You know, God,
- 10:48Speaker 5: he speak of legends that don't get taken care of.
- 10:52Speaker 5: I mean, he signed, He easily could have signed for
- 10:54Speaker 5: a lot more, and he signed.
- 10:56Speaker 6: A hell of a deal.
- 10:57Speaker 5: He's been super loyal to this franchise, and this franchise
- 11:01Speaker 5: is treated on my crap. But I'm loving the way
- 11:03Speaker 5: he's playing right now. He's back in center field, so
- 11:06Speaker 5: I think that's also helping because he's more comfortable playing
- 11:09Speaker 5: center field than he was playing in right field last
- 11:11Speaker 5: year being a DH. He just says it just goes
- 11:14Speaker 5: better with his routine, his flow of the game. So
- 11:17Speaker 5: as much as I wanted him outside of center field
- 11:21Speaker 5: and everything because I thought, you know, injury wise, but
- 11:24Speaker 5: I think this is working for him. I mean you
- 11:26Speaker 5: could tell he's batting really well right now. Yeah, he's
- 11:29Speaker 5: a three hundred batting average in what was it, twenty
- 11:34Speaker 5: nine played appearances so far. It's pretty good. So far,
- 11:37Speaker 5: I would say, you know, six games, six hits. He's
- 11:41Speaker 5: you know, at least you know he's hitting and he's
- 11:43Speaker 5: gonna walk. He's has probably one of the best eyes
- 11:46Speaker 5: in baseball. So he's fun to watch, and he's the
- 11:49Speaker 5: only reason why I'm probably still an Angels fan right now.
- 11:53Speaker 4: H Baseball is better with Mike Troupp, healthy Mike Troup. Yeah, well, yeah,
- 11:59Speaker 4: of course, a healthy Mike Trout. It's been a shame
- 12:02Speaker 4: he's been uh banged up for a while. I'm hoping
- 12:06Speaker 4: he does. I hope he's come back Player of the Year.
- 12:08Speaker 4: I hope he can like come close to I don't
- 12:10Speaker 4: know if he could go back to his other numbers.
- 12:12Speaker 4: It's a lot to ask, but come close.
- 12:13Speaker 6: Definitely make the.
- 12:14Speaker 4: All Star Game, and not as lest as a you know,
- 12:18Speaker 4: because he earned it, not because of his name. It's
- 12:23Speaker 4: I've always liked Mike Trout. I hope he doesn't get traded,
- 12:28Speaker 4: especially to Philly, because there's always the raw that was
- 12:31Speaker 4: rumblings about, oh he's going back to Philly.
- 12:34Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 12:35Speaker 4: Maybe they'll be smarter, Maybe the Angels will be smarter
- 12:38Speaker 4: and say, hey, we're not gonna be the Pirates.
- 12:41Speaker 8: I don't know, you're shaking your head there.
- 12:44Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 12:46Speaker 5: But yeah, the only time I ever used the words
- 12:48Speaker 5: smart and Angels together. If the word is not in between.
- 12:52Speaker 4: All Right, thank you for for imparting that little bit
- 12:55Speaker 4: of wisdom. So we'll see, We'll see what happens with
- 12:58Speaker 4: Mike Trout. I'm I'm happy that he's doing well. I've
- 13:02Speaker 4: been a fan for a long time. It's he just
- 13:05Speaker 4: makes like I said, makes the game a lot better.
- 13:09Speaker 3: I just would reiterate.
- 13:11Speaker 2: You know, you can say, oh, the Angels didn't like
- 13:15Speaker 2: the way they handled his contract. He's playing for them.
- 13:18Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's the bottom line. The Pirates can't
- 13:21Speaker 2: say the same thing about McCutcheon. The Angels did offered
- 13:26Speaker 2: Trout a place to play, They took care of their legends.
- 13:29Speaker 2: They're reaping what they sow in a very positive way.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Usually you say that negatively, but no, they're you know,
- 13:37Speaker 2: they're reaping what they sow in a positive way.
- 13:39Speaker 3: I guess.
- 13:41Speaker 2: And you know something else, Now, a team that is
- 13:45Speaker 2: permanently in the shadow of the Dodgers.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Has identity because they have.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Mike Trout, and Trout is playing well, and that I mean,
- 13:56Speaker 2: you can't understate.
- 13:57Speaker 5: That there's a difference to I mean, I mean, we
- 14:02Speaker 5: had two MVPs and not a single winning season to
- 14:06Speaker 5: show for it. So yes, the agent may take care
- 14:11Speaker 5: of Mike Trout, but they're all like contract wise, but
- 14:14Speaker 5: on over turk about like all in general. He's played
- 14:17Speaker 5: three playoff games his whole career and lost every single one.
- 14:23Speaker 5: That's not taking that's not taking care of your legends
- 14:26Speaker 5: if you're not.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Playing I mean with legend of a game like this
- 14:29Speaker 2: with toutching with the Pirates, he was on three wild
- 14:32Speaker 2: card teams. There were two wild card losses. They beat
- 14:36Speaker 2: the Reds in a very memorable game and then lost
- 14:39Speaker 2: to the Cardinals in the divisional series in five rounds.
- 14:42Speaker 2: That was back twenty thirteen. I believe in all this,
- 14:45Speaker 2: so you know, I mean we can with the Pirates
- 14:48Speaker 2: won one what you know, the wild card game. The
- 14:52Speaker 2: Angels won no wild Okay, I get it and all this,
- 14:56Speaker 2: but essentially you have had someone who has been respond
- 15:00Speaker 2: for the success of the recent success of the franchise.
- 15:03Speaker 3: What it is and our big name player.
- 15:06Speaker 2: The franchise has identity when they have a star tied
- 15:12Speaker 2: to them. I don't care if it's Derek Jeter and
- 15:15Speaker 2: the New York Yankees or if it's Joe Mauer and
- 15:19Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins. You have identity and That's something that
- 15:23Speaker 2: in baseball, with the players hopping with free agency so much,
- 15:27Speaker 2: you don't have the way you do in the NFL,
- 15:30Speaker 2: where the quarterback really is tied to the identity of
- 15:33Speaker 2: the franchise, and so many times the good quarterbacks they
- 15:37Speaker 2: will stay with a franchise for ten years. You rarely
- 15:39Speaker 2: have that in baseball, but you do have Mike Trutz
- 15:42Speaker 2: staying with the Angels.
- 15:43Speaker 1: I'll say one thing about Mike Trout. Can't forget those
- 15:46Speaker 1: battles you had with Miguel Cabrera when Mickey was going
- 15:49Speaker 1: after the Triple Crown. All those were epic, weren't they.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Miggy going for the Triple Crown. I'm glad that he's
- 15:55Speaker 1: in centerfield. I'm glad he's doing well. We'll probably be
- 15:58Speaker 1: more talking about him as well, but I just wanted
- 16:00Speaker 1: to bring him up that, Hey, that opening day starts
- 16:02Speaker 1: off with Canny, follow up with us and take us home.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Plenty more to get to here on the Sports Exchange.
- 16:07Speaker 7: On September twentieth of last year, Trout hit his four
- 16:11Speaker 7: hundredth career home run. He is the twentieth player to
- 16:16Speaker 7: hit all four hundred home runs with one franchise. He
- 16:21Speaker 7: is the third player to reach that mark with the Angels,
- 16:25Speaker 7: joining Dave Winfield and Vladimir Guerrera. He is also the
- 16:33Speaker 7: second active player to do so right now, him and
- 16:37Speaker 7: John Carlos Stanton. So kudos for them for keeping him,
- 16:42Speaker 7: giving him a contract, and kudos for him coming out
- 16:45Speaker 7: and being a leader on that team and playing so
- 16:49Speaker 7: well to open the season.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a pretty good names Kane.
- 16:55Speaker 1: You keep coming up with names. If I were you,
- 16:58Speaker 1: I get youself another piece of paper because I can't
- 17:00Speaker 1: keep up with all the ones they're coming up with,
- 17:02Speaker 1: young lady. But they're awfully good, no doubt about it.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I just say I can. This guy's a good player,
- 17:08Speaker 1: at least like Mark. He said. The Angels are paying
- 17:11Speaker 1: their players. Unfortunately Pittford isn't able to do that same
- 17:14Speaker 1: with theirs as well. So with that said, it's been
- 17:16Speaker 1: an oval change made for the March Madness as Nate
- 17:20Speaker 1: Perlson has been named the new studio host for Marx
- 17:23Speaker 1: manifiling position previously held by Ernie Johnson, who stepped down
- 17:28Speaker 1: from the role. Burlson's appointment is reportedly part of an
- 17:31Speaker 1: evaluation by CBS Sports and potentially groom to see James
- 17:35Speaker 1: Brown as the host of the NFL Today has some
- 17:38Speaker 1: thoughts about that.
- 17:41Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not getting too many great reviews about his
- 17:44Speaker 4: uh college basketball analysis.
- 17:48Speaker 8: Yeah, he was keeping.
- 17:49Speaker 4: I mean, he got to start on the NFL network
- 17:51Speaker 4: on their morning show, and that seemed to get him
- 17:54Speaker 4: some get him some hype there. People liked what he did,
- 17:58Speaker 4: so they throw them over to.
- 17:59Speaker 8: Football, which makes sense.
- 18:00Speaker 4: So he's on CBS and hey, I guess they said
- 18:03Speaker 4: he's he's smooth. He might, he might have a good ratings,
- 18:06Speaker 4: people might like, he might be trending.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Seems like a nice guy, good personality, but I think
- 18:14Speaker 4: he's in over his head. He might like college basketball,
- 18:17Speaker 4: but I don't know how much he knows about it. So,
- 18:20Speaker 4: I mean, charm and being smooth can only go so
- 18:23Speaker 4: far for you. If you don't know what you're talking about.
- 18:27Speaker 4: People are going to be able to pick that up
- 18:28Speaker 4: pretty quickly.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Yeah, But here's where I'm going to defend the guy.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Number one. They threw him into this job here to
- 18:34Speaker 1: be something. That way, he get a group from the
- 18:36Speaker 1: NFL there, he's a football guy. He guys learning on
- 18:39Speaker 1: the flat. I don't blame that solely on Nate Broseley.
- 18:42Speaker 1: He's one of the younger Well, no, let me finish,
- 18:44Speaker 1: I'll explain it on him at all, whatsoever. I mean,
- 18:47Speaker 1: he's a talented guy over in CBS Sports and they're
- 18:52Speaker 1: trying to get him in march manners. So I think
- 18:53Speaker 1: he's a real pick for march Man. It's probably not
- 18:56Speaker 1: so that they're using this here as the way again
- 18:58Speaker 1: with the NFL. I guess you know what I'm saying,
- 19:01Speaker 1: But I don't hold that totally. Again, I listen, he
- 19:04Speaker 1: loves the Detroit Liones that he played for him. He's
- 19:06Speaker 1: always spoken about him. But Nate Browson is a guy
- 19:09Speaker 1: who is a rising star in this business, and I
- 19:13Speaker 1: came a lot of credit. I mean, this is all
- 19:15Speaker 1: on CBS going from gallent basketball with the personalities that
- 19:20Speaker 1: he has on so more power to him. I hope
- 19:23Speaker 1: he gets Subland, a guy who's more able to handle
- 19:26Speaker 1: college basketball. But it's inevitable he's going to replace James
- 19:30Speaker 1: Brown as time goes on. But I'm with you all
- 19:33Speaker 1: the way.
- 19:34Speaker 8: I really, I'm sorry.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, so you're you're right. It's it's it's
- 19:40Speaker 4: not on him that they made the call. They made
- 19:43Speaker 4: the call. Maybe he has some rough times at the beginning.
- 19:47Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 19:48Speaker 8: Maybe he can get better.
- 19:49Speaker 4: Uh, but you know, that's just know that like the
- 19:53Speaker 4: people who are always in charge aren't always like to
- 19:55Speaker 4: make the best decisions. Maybe they see some tendile in them.
- 19:58Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 19:59Speaker 8: I don't you know.
- 20:00Speaker 4: I'm not giving him any flak. I'm just kind of
- 20:03Speaker 4: going by what people are saying. I didn't really carry
- 20:06Speaker 4: either way. He was kind of flat. But it's not
- 20:10Speaker 4: on me. If he gets better, maybe that charm and
- 20:12Speaker 4: that that other stuff can work.
- 20:14Speaker 5: Out, all right, Cody, I didn't I know who Nate
- 20:20Speaker 5: Brolson is. I just didn't know he was doing the
- 20:23Speaker 5: the NCAA tournament. I mean, i'd be like throwing me
- 20:26Speaker 5: into talking about NFL constantly. I guess said, I know football,
- 20:31Speaker 5: but I can't tell you coverage. I can't tell you defenses, routes,
- 20:35Speaker 5: any of that. But you know, it's probably not easy
- 20:38Speaker 5: for him. But I mean, if he's thrown into it,
- 20:40Speaker 5: and I said, I haven't watched, so I can't really
- 20:43Speaker 5: judge on how he is, I cann't tell you it
- 20:45Speaker 5: was probably not easy. But you know, if he's making
- 20:48Speaker 5: a work, then good on him. If you know, it's
- 20:50Speaker 5: probably not easy for him to get right away. Maybe
- 20:52Speaker 5: he needs a year or two to really get used
- 20:54Speaker 5: to it. It doesn't help that the tournament's only once
- 20:56Speaker 5: a year and like only for what three weeks for
- 21:00Speaker 5: so solfully, you know, it works for him and he
- 21:03Speaker 5: gets better at it.
- 21:05Speaker 3: All right, Markey, Well, Nate Burleson.
- 21:09Speaker 2: I think some of the criticisms that he got, I
- 21:12Speaker 2: made some weird fashion choices.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Maybe I should talk, but I think that has part
- 21:17Speaker 3: of it.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Ultimately, his job, though is to well throw straight lines
- 21:25Speaker 2: to the likes of Clark Kellogg or Charles Barklay, whoever
- 21:28Speaker 2: the other studio hosts are. I didn't see a problem
- 21:33Speaker 2: necessarily there. However, Burlson did not have a strong presence
- 21:39Speaker 2: in terms of his status on the show.
- 21:42Speaker 3: I will say that.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I do find it a little bit odd that so
- 21:48Speaker 2: many basketball commentators, there's so many that are placed in
- 21:52Speaker 2: this role, seem to come from sports other than basketball.
- 21:56Speaker 3: We were talking about Ernie Johnson.
- 21:58Speaker 2: I mean, his father was a very famous well he
- 22:02Speaker 2: was a baseball relief pitcher with the Braves for many years,
- 22:05Speaker 2: but he was also you know, just a beloved broadcaster
- 22:09Speaker 2: on TBS with the Atlanta Braves for many years. But
- 22:14Speaker 2: in addition to that, Ernie Johnson Junior was a college
- 22:18Speaker 2: baseball player, albeit briefly at the University of Georgia. So
- 22:21Speaker 2: you know his background. One might say his baseball. Now,
- 22:24Speaker 2: can you you know, learn another sport?
- 22:26Speaker 3: Can you adapt?
- 22:27Speaker 2: Of course you can't, but think of something, you know,
- 22:30Speaker 2: a moderate shod interviewing Michael Jordan all the time back
- 22:34Speaker 2: in the day or something.
- 22:35Speaker 3: His background is football.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Bob Costas hosting the NBA on NBC show and all
- 22:42Speaker 2: that his background baseball. I do remember when he was
- 22:45Speaker 2: the host of the Football NFL eighty whatever it was
- 22:51Speaker 2: back in the day, the football pregame show. As far
- 22:55Speaker 2: as where the you know it is Burlson that's going
- 22:58Speaker 2: to take over on the NFL today. You know. One
- 23:03Speaker 2: of the reasons I think that the Fox pregame show,
- 23:07Speaker 2: so let's face it, it dominates the CBS show is quite frankly,
- 23:13Speaker 2: Fox understands the need for humor and whether that's having
- 23:17Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw on or having those little bits that they
- 23:21Speaker 2: do coming out of commercials or something. You know, it's
- 23:25Speaker 2: very entertaining. It may not break down the nuances and
- 23:30Speaker 2: tell you what the difference between the four to three
- 23:31Speaker 2: and the three four defense is, but it is. It's relatable,
- 23:36Speaker 2: it's fun, It preps you for the game quite well.
- 23:41Speaker 2: And CBS really doesn't have that personality type. They try
- 23:46Speaker 2: to rely on Bill Cower a lot. Bill Keller is
- 23:49Speaker 2: not the personality that Terry Bradshaw or how we longer
- 23:53Speaker 2: you know, any Michael Strahan is, let's face it, so
- 23:58Speaker 2: you know, if they want him to take over, you know,
- 24:02Speaker 2: I just see you need a personality there. CBS Fox
- 24:07Speaker 2: gets it right. That's why I always watch Fox. CBS
- 24:12Speaker 2: in comparison. Hey, you're a little boring. And I wonder
- 24:17Speaker 2: if Nateles won't be able to stop that or be
- 24:20Speaker 2: able to change that if he does host the NFL today.
- 24:25Speaker 4: I don't think CBS has had a really good, uh
- 24:28Speaker 4: overall charismatic guy since John Madden like.
- 24:32Speaker 3: That Johnny was a pre game host, I mean.
- 24:35Speaker 4: No general in general as a sports you know, like
- 24:39Speaker 4: charismatics sports of course on air, and he wound up
- 24:44Speaker 4: going to Fox anyway.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Mm hmm. No, I understand that.
- 24:49Speaker 2: I mean, you know, back in the I mean before Fox,
- 24:52Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned Terry Bradshaw.
- 24:53Speaker 3: He was part of the part of the NFL Today.
- 24:55Speaker 2: In the old day, the days of yore with Musburger
- 24:59Speaker 2: and Jimmy the Greek nerve Cross and either Phyllis, George
- 25:02Speaker 2: or Janskin. That was personality. You know, you couldn't wait
- 25:05Speaker 2: to watch it. And you know, I also think as
- 25:08Speaker 2: a half hour it was very much faster paced.
- 25:11Speaker 3: We'll give you that.
- 25:12Speaker 1: But you know you.
- 25:13Speaker 2: Don't have that on CBS. Now you do have that
- 25:17Speaker 2: on Fox. And is it just a philosophy between the
- 25:20Speaker 2: two networks or so uh. I don't know if Burlson
- 25:24Speaker 2: will ever be able to be the for lack of
- 25:27Speaker 2: better term, ring leader, the entertaining ring leader, the entertaining
- 25:32Speaker 2: host that brings out these personalities the way that they
- 25:37Speaker 2: are brought out on Fox.
- 25:39Speaker 1: What I say, Mark, you make me feel like a
- 25:41Speaker 1: the seventies already, you bring a Breton.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Young.
- 25:46Speaker 2: I may be using your younger demographic. But let's face
- 25:49Speaker 2: the pregame show, and it doesn't matter if it's the
- 25:52Speaker 2: Final Four, it doesn't matter if it's the NFL Today
- 25:56Speaker 2: or NFL on Fox or whatever. We watched this because
- 26:00Speaker 2: entertaining the ballgame in itself. You know, we don't talk
- 26:03Speaker 2: about forty nine seven blowouts. We talk about the close,
- 26:07Speaker 2: exciting super Bowls that go into overtime or whatever. Uh
- 26:11Speaker 2: you know, you know we want entertainment. And with burls
- 26:16Speaker 2: I mean, he's not dull.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong there.
- 26:21Speaker 2: But is he that charismatic leader? Is he going to
- 26:25Speaker 2: present the charisma that we've seen from competitors, even Berman
- 26:31Speaker 2: and Jackson on ESPN?
- 26:34Speaker 1: We don't know that yet. This guy's just a pump
- 26:36Speaker 1: in this business. Really seriously, really, you're talking about putting
- 26:40Speaker 1: him at Chris Berman and who's the other one that you.
- 26:43Speaker 8: Mentioned, Jackson?
- 26:44Speaker 3: I mean they had such a good rapport and all.
- 26:46Speaker 1: This they did. Come on, get the guy break, let
- 26:48Speaker 1: him at least hold card show themfore you said you're
- 26:51Speaker 1: putting the neck classification. He's a.
- 26:58Speaker 3: I'm just saying here, I'm not sure.
- 27:01Speaker 2: But with Burlson, is he going to be able to
- 27:04Speaker 2: have that lively show and be I.
- 27:07Speaker 3: Mean he's got Charles Barkley and I can't.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Remember one thing Berkley's really said during this NCAA tournament.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:15Speaker 4: Well, I think with Burlson is like when he was
- 27:17Speaker 4: on the NFL Morning show it's thing, big thing. He
- 27:20Speaker 4: could say a lot of time, and he wasn't the
- 27:21Speaker 4: main guy. He was one of the just four. He'd
- 27:24Speaker 4: be like, it's one thing, they talk about it.
- 27:27Speaker 8: He just put that little.
- 27:27Speaker 4: Thing in there and they would go with it, and
- 27:29Speaker 4: then they started trying to do it without him and
- 27:32Speaker 4: it just didn't work. There's this charisma there, there's something there.
- 27:36Speaker 4: I don't know if he can, dude, I think he
- 27:38Speaker 4: might be more charisma as a supporting piece. Maybe not
- 27:42Speaker 4: be able to to be that that anchor. I don't know,
- 27:46Speaker 4: maybe he can. Maybe he's gonna be one of the
- 27:47Speaker 4: best ever. He's just he's just he's just paying his
- 27:51Speaker 4: dues right now, trying to get used to the whole
- 27:54Speaker 4: basketball thing.
- 27:55Speaker 2: It's a matter of bringing out the best in the
- 27:58Speaker 2: other people here. And you know, maybe that is a criticism.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I mean, what has Charles bark who is always so quotable,
- 28:06Speaker 2: What has he said to Sincia Tournament that anyone really
- 28:08Speaker 2: is what's been that clickbait headline on the internet from Berkley.
- 28:13Speaker 2: I can't remember a one, so it hasn't been brought out,
- 28:18Speaker 2: and so he may have Birlson may have some grow.
- 28:21Speaker 2: I think he does some growing room. Again, his thing
- 28:24Speaker 2: is not necessarily to make that comment. His job as
- 28:28Speaker 2: a host is not what John McLaughlin's was on the
- 28:31Speaker 2: McLachlin Group in years gone by. He's not arguing with
- 28:34Speaker 2: the people and all this, but it is to bring
- 28:38Speaker 2: out the best in them. And right now I'm trying
- 28:42Speaker 2: really hard to remember something that I thought was really
- 28:47Speaker 2: witty or very insightful or intelligent that the you know
- 28:53Speaker 2: NCAA tournament hosts on CBS have said this year.
- 28:57Speaker 3: I can't really remember.
- 28:58Speaker 1: One, you know, Billson, I'm gonna tell you something, brother.
- 29:04Speaker 1: You bring out the fountain abuse with me, man, the
- 29:06Speaker 1: way we can battance this old school business all day
- 29:09Speaker 1: along Democrats let me finished. Oh ye you all darn
- 29:15Speaker 1: day along. I love day with it. I may not
- 29:18Speaker 1: get a damn oussation of thousand difference, I don't get
- 29:22Speaker 1: it anyway. I wanna tell it, Bilson. One of the
- 29:25Speaker 1: lugeries I have with you on the Dark Show that
- 29:27Speaker 1: I used to have with lot Ichorn, but he was
- 29:30Speaker 1: animated like you are, okay, as I could go at
- 29:33Speaker 1: you all day long with this old time stuff. It's sogan, Oh,
- 29:36Speaker 1: the Najor problem. I heard a rain drops be calling
- 29:39Speaker 1: on my head, but now your name drops you fall
- 29:42Speaker 1: on my head because after year. But that's awesome, Bilson.
- 29:46Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why you're on this show again.
- 29:49Speaker 1: I need this passion out of you to bring this
- 29:51Speaker 1: stuff up. My God, turn it man, b pop pop.
- 29:57Speaker 1: You gonna make those creatures through it. You know why
- 29:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this because when Parky Anderson went out
- 30:01Speaker 1: there and says that Kirk Gifson is going to be
- 30:04Speaker 1: the next Mickey Mantle boy, that was a comparison the
- 30:07Speaker 1: way I'm this guy, give me a frank Man and
- 30:09Speaker 1: don't get me started there because this can Oh, but
- 30:12Speaker 1: I'm keeping you till ten thirty instead of ten. Don't
- 30:15Speaker 1: get me dogs, I've had that many topics. I got
- 30:17Speaker 1: to make sure they put you on the right one.
- 30:19Speaker 1: But really, along where you're going with this old thing,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I've never seen the day where you took me back
- 30:24Speaker 1: then yesteryear. The fact that you just said, give the
- 30:28Speaker 1: guy a chance to get a stablus already let me
- 30:30Speaker 1: come on and threw him into the fire from Mark Magnet.
- 30:33Speaker 1: But are he does on the NFL today? Before you
- 30:36Speaker 1: sit there and go out there the oar, Oh, hell,
- 30:40Speaker 1: we know yet you give them time, Man, give them time.
- 30:43Speaker 1: We'll see they're groling the guy. How many times people
- 30:47Speaker 1: said that they're grooming you to do that? You've got
- 30:50Speaker 1: it yet, Kayton Brown's probably one or two years away
- 30:53Speaker 1: from being done. Then come back to me in two
- 30:55Speaker 1: years from now, Bilson and tell me you know that first.
- 31:00Speaker 2: You know again, it's a matter of well, who will
- 31:03Speaker 2: he be given? If he is given the NFL today,
- 31:08Speaker 2: will he be given the personalities that Brent Musburger had
- 31:12Speaker 2: to work with back in the day. Will he be
- 31:14Speaker 2: given the personalities that Fox has or got? To be
- 31:18Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean the CBS show lacks personality
- 31:22Speaker 2: is compared to Fox, and that's not everybody knows that.
- 31:27Speaker 4: I did think that Fox guys are probably not going
- 31:29Speaker 4: to be there that much longer. I mean, Brad is
- 31:31Speaker 4: probably going to be gone pretty soon, probably be there
- 31:35Speaker 4: a little bit longer than Brad trying.
- 31:38Speaker 1: To get another Super Bowl and once he's done, out
- 31:42Speaker 1: of their history. I'm with you, O Candy, You've been
- 31:47Speaker 1: on a lot of sorts of changes, a lot of
- 31:48Speaker 1: different ones. I've obviously done different things of this. How
- 31:51Speaker 1: do you like this REMP version, but Bilson and Neil
- 31:55Speaker 1: and Tony the Stars, you see something you've never seen before.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Give me your thought about that situation.
- 32:02Speaker 7: So I think putting Nate into March Madness is a
- 32:07Speaker 7: rough spot to put him in. Let's face it. First
- 32:11Speaker 7: of all, Ernie Johnson, mister bowtie himself, has been doing
- 32:16Speaker 7: it since twenty eleven, so the fans of March Madness
- 32:21Speaker 7: are used to seeing Ernie and his bow tie. And
- 32:25Speaker 7: then you throw somebody intew because Ernie wanted to step back.
- 32:29Speaker 7: And let's be clear, you also gave Nate only the
- 32:34Speaker 7: first start, the first part of March Madness. His job
- 32:38Speaker 7: with March Madness is already done. Ernie Johnson takes back
- 32:42Speaker 7: and goes back and does the final four. So Nate
- 32:45Speaker 7: only had the first part. Nate is not a basketball player.
- 32:49Speaker 7: He's an NFL player wide receiver. So it's not his
- 32:54Speaker 7: cup of tea. It's not his first it's not it's
- 32:58Speaker 7: probably his first rodeo with broadcasting a sport other than
- 33:03Speaker 7: the NFL. That makes a difference too, you know. So,
- 33:10Speaker 7: and then you pair him up with Bruce Pearl, Kenny Smith,
- 33:14Speaker 7: Charlie Barkley and Clark Kellogg. That makes a difference to
- 33:21Speaker 7: most of those played or coached basketball, so they're way
- 33:26Speaker 7: more knowledgeable of the sport than Nate would be. Now
- 33:32Speaker 7: Nate did he did try and do reference an inappropriate
- 33:36Speaker 7: joke over the weekend, which is not cool. But you
- 33:40Speaker 7: know he's learning, he's trying to feel his way. Johnson's
- 33:48Speaker 7: back for the sech a return for the final four. Earlson,
- 33:53Speaker 7: I think he'll be fine on NFL.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Well, let me just say what you mentioned Bruce Pearl here,
- 33:59Speaker 2: and I would like to have heard Bruce Pearl after
- 34:04Speaker 2: Miami beat SMU in the tournament, after pro was speaking
- 34:08Speaker 2: that you know, Auburn deserves to be in the tournament
- 34:11Speaker 2: instead of Miami of Ohio. I'd like to have heard
- 34:15Speaker 2: more on the show of what Bruce Pearl thought. And
- 34:20Speaker 2: I don't again, Pearlson's role is to basically be the
- 34:24Speaker 2: straight man to deliver those lines. But also in that case,
- 34:28Speaker 2: you know, you don't just give pearl a free pass.
- 34:33Speaker 2: I'd like to know what he thinks about High Point
- 34:36Speaker 2: beating Wisconsin.
- 34:37Speaker 3: You know, here was the guy saying those jams.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, I don't deserve to be in over the
- 34:43Speaker 2: tenth place team and the SEC or whatever it was.
- 34:46Speaker 2: And okay, well here were some examples of success from
- 34:51Speaker 2: those teams.
- 34:53Speaker 3: What do you have to say now, Bruce, That's all
- 34:55Speaker 3: I'd like to know.
- 34:55Speaker 2: And I don't know if the really was given the
- 34:58Speaker 2: opportunity to say that.
- 34:59Speaker 3: And that's Pearlson's job to bring it out.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Hey, Marky, be careful what you ask for. Now. I'm
- 35:03Speaker 1: gonna start digging up Bruce Burrow stuff and bring it
- 35:05Speaker 1: in on the show. Start off, and then you can
- 35:08Speaker 1: get your shots in. But we're gonna talk pro football now,
- 35:11Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about the United Football League, your
- 35:14Speaker 1: favorite and pack the sport. How we're gonna give you
- 35:16Speaker 1: everything you need to know about the twenty twenty six
- 35:18Speaker 1: UFL season. We're gonna just go over some things. We
- 35:21Speaker 1: get the pat changes point after touchdown in addition to
- 35:25Speaker 1: the traditional point after for a one point and the
- 35:28Speaker 1: two point teams can attempt a three point conversion from
- 35:33Speaker 1: the eight yard line. Okay, how about that a three
- 35:36Speaker 1: point conversion? And let's see. We also have no punts
- 35:42Speaker 1: inside the fifty. No punts will be allowed from anywhere
- 35:45Speaker 1: inside the opponent fifty yard unless it is inside one
- 35:49Speaker 1: of the two minute warning wants the ball chooses, the
- 35:53Speaker 1: crosses the fifty. The team cannot punt even if there
- 35:58Speaker 1: is a play for a long yardage or penalty calls
- 36:02Speaker 1: on the offenct. I'm just going to go over with him.
- 36:04Speaker 1: The twitch pushes banned obviously, then they considered an illegal play.
- 36:09Speaker 1: There's one foot in bounds, so we're familiar with that rule.
- 36:12Speaker 1: And then the four point field goal for field goals
- 36:14Speaker 1: over sixty yards. That's interesting. And the teams are rebranding obviously,
- 36:20Speaker 1: the Renegads which markets are now the Dallas n Grades
- 36:24Speaker 1: and the Houston Roughnecks are now the Houston Gamblers. And
- 36:27Speaker 1: the new teams of three new teams have been added.
- 36:30Speaker 1: They have the Columbus Avatars, Orlando Storm, then Louisville Kings
- 36:35Speaker 1: replaced some Memphis show, both Michigan Panthers and the San
- 36:39Speaker 1: Antonio Brahmas. All right, Marky, what are your thoughts about
- 36:41Speaker 1: what we've seen here with the United Football League?
- 36:44Speaker 2: Well, I missed the USFL, so I'm very happy that
- 36:47Speaker 2: it's the Gamblers.
- 36:48Speaker 3: It never should have been. What were the Houston whatever
- 36:52Speaker 3: they were?
- 36:53Speaker 1: And all that.
- 36:53Speaker 2: I mean, the Gamblers have identity history. You think Jim
- 36:57Speaker 2: Kelly absolutely. I mean, why did it take them two
- 37:01Speaker 2: years to call them the gamblers?
- 37:03Speaker 3: That's the one thing. Here are the.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Things about the UFL and I when it was the USFL.
- 37:09Speaker 3: And maybe it was because.
- 37:11Speaker 2: It was channeling my nineteen eighties youth, but I really
- 37:15Speaker 2: enjoyed the USFL and its rebrand, even if it was
- 37:19Speaker 2: playing all the time in Birmingham or can'ton Ohio or
- 37:22Speaker 2: and you know that's also cool, you're playing a championship
- 37:26Speaker 2: game in can'ton Ohio, I mean, right.
- 37:29Speaker 3: By the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
- 37:31Speaker 2: Yet UFL lost some of that identity and all that.
- 37:37Speaker 2: And really I thought because Dwayne Johnson and he was
- 37:39Speaker 2: always more with the revival of the XFL. When they
- 37:44Speaker 2: merged those two leagues, there was more of an XFL feeling,
- 37:49Speaker 2: at least initially. As far as these rule changes go,
- 37:54Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they you know, it seems
- 37:57Speaker 2: to me that a lot of these are just things
- 37:59Speaker 2: that you know, we've contemplated. But are they really a
- 38:04Speaker 2: good idea? Is it really a good idea to award
- 38:09Speaker 2: a team that doesn't move the ball down the field
- 38:13Speaker 2: and then just Alex, you know, to kick a chip
- 38:16Speaker 2: Shop field goal and let's say fourth and goal from
- 38:18Speaker 2: the twelve.
- 38:19Speaker 3: I can't, you.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Know, why should that team be punished they move the
- 38:24Speaker 2: ball and instead in this era of you know, absolutely
- 38:28Speaker 2: wonderful kickers. Hey, you know something, we can get a
- 38:31Speaker 2: four point field goal here just by having the ball
- 38:33Speaker 2: at midfield. You know, does it make sense? The score
- 38:38Speaker 2: is twenty seven to twenty three, there's a minute left. Hey, hey,
- 38:42Speaker 2: don't get it too far down the field here. We've
- 38:45Speaker 2: got a real good kicker. That's our best odds. That's
- 38:48Speaker 2: not football, you know. Not punting inside the fifty? You know,
- 38:56Speaker 2: is it really that good to take away the strategy?
- 38:58Speaker 3: Is this? What is a problem?
- 39:00Speaker 2: I mean, are we having too many punts inside the fifty?
- 39:03Speaker 2: It seems this day and age the analytics are telling
- 39:06Speaker 2: you to go for it more and more. Are people saying,
- 39:09Speaker 2: you know, oh damn it, they punted on fourth and
- 39:12Speaker 2: ten from the forty nine? You know, is that really
- 39:16Speaker 2: a reason we're not watching the game. It seems like
- 39:19Speaker 2: everyone is. So I think that these are some rules
- 39:23Speaker 2: that don't necessarily have to be made. If you want
- 39:27Speaker 2: to reward or if you want I think the more
- 39:30Speaker 2: strategic you can make any sport the better. But also
- 39:34Speaker 2: if you really want to do that, I'm going to
- 39:36Speaker 2: tell you how what rule change I want to see
- 39:38Speaker 2: in football, And that's the aboma. That's abolishing overtime, honest
- 39:44Speaker 2: to goodness. Follow I mean, if it ends in a tie,
- 39:47Speaker 2: that's a legitimate result going one yard. You know these
- 39:51Speaker 2: overtime football rules that they have, you know in college football,
- 39:57Speaker 2: let's have another twenty five back and forth and you
- 40:00Speaker 2: that's not getting field position. And also when we're hearing
- 40:04Speaker 2: this situation of you know, the game is so tough
- 40:08Speaker 2: on the players and all that, maybe it's best to
- 40:10Speaker 2: cut it off after sixty minutes instead of going indefinitely.
- 40:14Speaker 2: But where I really go with that is that the
- 40:16Speaker 2: majority of the time you're going to.
- 40:18Speaker 3: Now see what coaches have guts.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Oh it's thirty one thirty, we've tied it with three
- 40:25Speaker 2: seconds left.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Do we go for that time or do we go
- 40:30Speaker 3: for two?
- 40:32Speaker 2: And are we going to have the guts of Tom
- 40:34Speaker 2: Osborne in the eighty four Orange bowlt you remember that?
- 40:38Speaker 3: Where are we going to be?
- 40:40Speaker 2: You know? Uh? No, No, let's just you know, well
- 40:43Speaker 2: we scored lad you know, we didn't lose this game.
- 40:46Speaker 3: And all that.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Let's reward. Let's that's excitement to me, it isn't you know. Oh,
- 40:53Speaker 2: let's put the ball at the three and we'll have
- 40:55Speaker 2: alternating two point conversions until we win.
- 41:00Speaker 3: It's a gimmick.
- 41:02Speaker 2: The other thing you mentioned. But I do think that, yeah,
- 41:05Speaker 2: the extra points. I saw the Orlando Storm Columbus game,
- 41:09Speaker 2: and yeah, it made more sense. I watched for two
- 41:11Speaker 2: years trying to go for it on you know, these
- 41:15Speaker 2: you know, conversions from the two or the one. It
- 41:18Speaker 2: just it sounded like a much better idea than it
- 41:20Speaker 2: really was.
- 41:21Speaker 3: I think we like seven point touchdowns, I really do.
- 41:25Speaker 3: We've always had that.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Three point conversion in the UFL. It has been you
- 41:32Speaker 2: It isn't a reliable trick, so you don't use it,
- 41:36Speaker 2: but you know, so it's.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Been there.
- 41:39Speaker 6: Again.
- 41:40Speaker 2: You know, one question, should an eighteen point lead only
- 41:43Speaker 2: be a two possession game? Or is it only a
- 41:46Speaker 2: two possession game because the three point try is so difficult?
- 41:50Speaker 3: Some questions to ask yourself. I think there.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I like your thoroughness when it comes
- 41:55Speaker 1: to these topics. Make sure I'm learning a lot from
- 41:58Speaker 1: you with every show. Marketing. It's all good, all right, I.
- 42:04Speaker 8: Wait, I remember, I'm old enough to remember.
- 42:05Speaker 4: I'm I'm good. Just so you know, I'm getting a
- 42:07Speaker 4: lot of those references. You've been thrown out there, Markus,
- 42:10Speaker 4: So I'm still I was a young kid, remember that stuff.
- 42:13Speaker 8: But I'm still getting a hell of a lot.
- 42:14Speaker 4: Of those references. I remember the USFL too, when it
- 42:18Speaker 4: was out.
- 42:19Speaker 8: I love that.
- 42:20Speaker 4: I had a lot, but that was a different time.
- 42:21Speaker 4: They guts, they were able to take guys away from
- 42:23Speaker 4: the NFL. You know, Reggie White, Jim Kelly, those guys, Steve.
- 42:27Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen anymore. I don't think it would.
- 42:30Speaker 4: You know, it's but it's just it's it's it's I
- 42:33Speaker 4: don't know. It is a gimmick. It is very much
- 42:36Speaker 4: a gimmick. But they gotta be gimmicky.
- 42:38Speaker 8: They're not.
- 42:38Speaker 4: They know they're not the NFL. They're playing in spring.
- 42:41Speaker 4: How do we make it different?
- 42:42Speaker 8: You have the Rock in there.
- 42:43Speaker 4: They had part of the XFL, so you have Dwayne
- 42:45Speaker 4: the Rock Johnson in there, so there's gonna be something
- 42:48Speaker 4: with that. How do we make it interesting? How do
- 42:50Speaker 4: we make it fun? Yeah, and you're right, it's not
- 42:53Speaker 4: necessarily football. It's not football it's more like video game football.
- 42:57Speaker 4: And I've already heard I think they're gonna be coming
- 42:59Speaker 4: up with a video game, and I can just see
- 43:01Speaker 4: one of the things that they'll have is like, oh yeah,
- 43:04Speaker 4: you get one offensive play and one defensive play with
- 43:07Speaker 4: the rock.
- 43:08Speaker 8: All right behind it.
- 43:11Speaker 4: It's like every time you put the rock in on defense,
- 43:13Speaker 4: it gets you like a thirty thirty yard sack, and
- 43:16Speaker 4: then if you get any play you go to them
- 43:18Speaker 4: on offense, you get the touchdown.
- 43:20Speaker 8: I could totally see.
- 43:21Speaker 4: It's almost like that the game was made for a
- 43:25Speaker 4: video game. It's it's it's the sport was made for
- 43:28Speaker 4: almost like a video game. That's it has that video
- 43:31Speaker 4: game feel.
- 43:32Speaker 3: And I don't have a problem with.
- 43:33Speaker 4: That whole overtime thing. You're saying, no overtime. That isn't
- 43:38Speaker 4: that is interesting? Hey, I'm all four ties. I missed ties.
- 43:43Speaker 4: I like when somebody ties.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I always a winner and a loser to a tie. People,
- 43:48Speaker 2: don't you know, Harvard beattl twenty nine, twenty nine. I
- 43:51Speaker 2: mean there's a usually it's a team that scores last
- 43:54Speaker 2: all the but yeah, there usually is a winner and
- 43:58Speaker 2: a loser to a high Uh you know, I nineteen
- 44:03Speaker 2: eighty nine Pitt, West Virginia. When Alex Van Pelt stuffed
- 44:06Speaker 2: twenty two points in the last ten minutes for Pitt
- 44:09Speaker 2: to tie West Virginia.
- 44:11Speaker 3: Nobody was coming away from Pitt thingking they lost that
- 44:13Speaker 3: ball game. Nobody was thinking that from West Virginia. Well,
- 44:17Speaker 3: at least we didn't lose all that.
- 44:19Speaker 2: That was the feeling of a victory. Would it have
- 44:23Speaker 2: been a better game? If they say, you know what
- 44:26Speaker 2: have made this game better?
- 44:27Speaker 3: Let's go, I have.
- 44:27Speaker 2: Alternating two point conversions until we can say get somebody won.
- 44:33Speaker 3: I think somebody already did, and.
- 44:35Speaker 1: We did because feather Freebird is in the chat room.
- 44:38Speaker 1: Didn't need feather free Bird. A'll warreo. Great to have
- 44:41Speaker 1: you on. Great stuff you're getting into. This is the
- 44:44Speaker 1: rebranded Sports Exchange. My name is Scott Morgan Ross Pleats
- 44:47Speaker 1: be joined by Cliff Neil Tody Stink, Marky Bilson, who's oy.
- 44:52Speaker 1: This guy's the rocks already like all you guys are
- 44:55Speaker 1: about Marky, I love his lamboyancy and Katie Eveling well
- 44:58Speaker 1: our crack statistician. All right, Cody, when you're getting out
- 45:01Speaker 1: of this UFL think just God only knows Marky went
- 45:04Speaker 1: out there and pulled out his cigarette later and started
- 45:06Speaker 1: a fire with it.
- 45:08Speaker 5: No, Mark and Cliff pretty much nailed the head on
- 45:10Speaker 5: the coffin with this one. Like it's it's probably it's
- 45:15Speaker 5: just another reason for people to start watching football during
- 45:18Speaker 5: this time.
- 45:18Speaker 6: It's because I.
- 45:22Speaker 7: Up, you're muted.
- 45:23Speaker 1: You meet yourself, Cody, muted yourself?
- 45:25Speaker 5: Tody, A right, Sorry, I think I lost my mind
- 45:28Speaker 5: for a second. What I was trying to say was
- 45:31Speaker 5: if they made it exactly the NFL, people would probably
- 45:34Speaker 5: give it more black. If they're trying to be like
- 45:37Speaker 5: the NFL, so maybe they want to try to do
- 45:38Speaker 5: something different. Maybe they're trying rules different that maybe the
- 45:44Speaker 5: NFL would like to try. Maybe it's kind of like
- 45:46Speaker 5: an experiment kind of thing, like how you know the
- 45:48Speaker 5: minor leagues are for baseball, how they are for you know,
- 45:51Speaker 5: like with the AHL, they.
- 45:53Speaker 6: Tried different things too.
- 45:55Speaker 5: It could it could be something like that, you know,
- 45:59Speaker 5: Like I said, it just gives probably another reason for
- 46:01Speaker 5: people to watch football. I wish there was a play,
- 46:05Speaker 5: you know, a game out near me. Maybe I might
- 46:07Speaker 5: try to attend one of those games. Of course, it's
- 46:09Speaker 5: probably too hot where I'm not right, now to be
- 46:11Speaker 5: outside for that long.
- 46:14Speaker 6: But like I said, maybe it's you.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Know, I think it's just like I said, I'm the
- 46:20Speaker 5: thing I don't like about the whole tie thing. I'm
- 46:23Speaker 5: a big soccer person, and everyone that I talk to
- 46:26Speaker 5: that complains about soccer is, oh, yeah, but they always tie,
- 46:31Speaker 5: they allow ties. I'm like, well, then what are you
- 46:33Speaker 5: gonna allow others to do? You know, if you're if
- 46:35Speaker 5: you're saying you don't overtime, then you know you gotta
- 46:42Speaker 5: you know, I said, do you want overtime or do
- 46:45Speaker 5: you want ties? You can't have both ways, So tell
- 46:47Speaker 5: me what you guys would want. I know Marky says
- 46:50Speaker 5: he doesn't want overtime, he wants ties. But everyone says
- 46:52Speaker 5: they complain about soccer having.
- 46:54Speaker 2: I know, I don't know if I want quote unquote
- 46:56Speaker 2: ties that will happen, I get it. But what I
- 46:59Speaker 2: want is the decision that oftentimes, wait a minute, we're
- 47:03Speaker 2: down thirty one to twenty eight, we've got the ball
- 47:05Speaker 2: with five seconds left at the other team's five yard
- 47:08Speaker 2: line and get out of here with the tire.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Do we go for it? That's the decision, that's the strategy.
- 47:14Speaker 3: That's what I want, right now it's lazy man.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Of course, you kick the field goal and you get
- 47:20Speaker 2: out of there, and then you go into gimmick ball
- 47:22Speaker 2: to decide a winner.
- 47:24Speaker 8: And I don't think they need to rule where you
- 47:26Speaker 8: have to go.
- 47:27Speaker 6: For the win.
- 47:29Speaker 2: Okay, Now let me just say this was strategy. Okay,
- 47:32Speaker 2: And again here we go. You have a situation where
- 47:36Speaker 2: the team that I'm talking about, it's the last game
- 47:39Speaker 2: of the season and they're one game ahead in the
- 47:42Speaker 2: playoff race. Now I understand why you go for the tie,
- 47:46Speaker 2: and everybody once, like I said, there's usually a winner
- 47:49Speaker 2: and a loser to a tie in that case, you know.
- 47:53Speaker 2: But again, it's like Tom Osmoarn had he kicked the
- 47:57Speaker 2: extra point back in nineteen eighty four in the Orange Bowl.
- 48:01Speaker 2: People know that the thirty one to thirty Miami defeat
- 48:04Speaker 2: of Nebraska, how do you kick the extra point? Nebraska
- 48:07Speaker 2: probably would have been voted number one. Miami didn't beat them,
- 48:10Speaker 2: why should they be number You know, Nebraska was so dominant.
- 48:14Speaker 2: Osborne went for it, you know, showing some grand courage
- 48:20Speaker 2: didn't cost It may have cost Nebraska national title. It
- 48:24Speaker 2: may have paved the way for Miami to be a
- 48:26Speaker 2: dynasty in a football power. It may also have been
- 48:29Speaker 2: because of the courage shown, one of the reasons why
- 48:32Speaker 2: Tom Osborne then got elected to Congress with eighty five
- 48:36Speaker 2: percent of the vote out of Nebraska. I mean, you know,
- 48:39Speaker 2: when you think about it, Yeah, it's not so much
- 48:43Speaker 2: I want tie, it's I want decisions. I want strategy,
- 48:49Speaker 2: and I don't want lazy. Uh oh, well, we've got
- 48:54Speaker 2: the fall with a minute left, where time's coming up
- 48:57Speaker 2: now just stepping.
- 48:58Speaker 3: In the gut. That's the way the game was supposed
- 49:00Speaker 3: to be played.
- 49:02Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you I covered that team and
- 49:03Speaker 1: Howard Snellenberger done looks so bad as they were on
- 49:07Speaker 1: heavy hundred dollars. By the way, fether Free were no wonder.
- 49:09Speaker 1: I'm glad your bo's mama bow is a great one
- 49:12Speaker 1: of my better friends in the business, that's for sure.
- 49:14Speaker 1: So it was Howard Snellenberger and Bernie Cozar. I mean,
- 49:18Speaker 1: what they did to win that championship is unbelievable. All right,
- 49:23Speaker 1: I'll just say this much and I'll turn over the
- 49:24Speaker 1: candy and cloth up topic. And obviously Mark is gonna
- 49:27Speaker 1: have as my town because I know he has to
- 49:30Speaker 1: leave at ten. So here's the thing. I could tell you,
- 49:34Speaker 1: but Cody's right. The NFL is trying to look at
- 49:37Speaker 1: some of these rule changes to see exactly if there's
- 49:39Speaker 1: anything that can translate over there if it made sense.
- 49:41Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say this is the four point
- 49:45Speaker 1: field goal intrigues me. It really does. If you can
- 49:48Speaker 1: hit him from sixty yards, that to me is something
- 49:51Speaker 1: I could see. I really can't have one foot in
- 49:53Speaker 1: bounds is used in college. NFL's gone too. But the
- 49:56Speaker 1: four point field goal does intrigue me, that's for sure.
- 49:59Speaker 1: But it is ferimental ground. Candy close it out, then Marty,
- 50:03Speaker 1: then Marky gets his my town, and then we'll proceed on.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Go ahead, Katy.
- 50:08Speaker 7: So to combat the appearance of empty seats, the UFL
- 50:12Speaker 7: moved several teams to smaller, more intimate stadiums. Okay, the
- 50:20Speaker 7: the UFL season opened with varied attendants, highlighted by a
- 50:25Speaker 7: very strong thirty one thousand, one hundred and ninety one
- 50:30Speaker 7: people for the Saint Louis BattleHawks, but lower numbers everywhere else.
- 50:36Speaker 7: The Louisville Kings they debuted in front of fourteen thousand
- 50:40Speaker 7: and thirty four, the Orlando Storm in front of eleven thousand,
- 50:44Speaker 7: one and twenty seven and the Dallas Renegades at eight thousand,
- 50:49Speaker 7: eight hundred and seventy. That's still a lot of people
- 50:53Speaker 7: that if these if the UFL wasn't playing, wondering where
- 50:58Speaker 7: where can we find any football?
- 50:59Speaker 1: And so like that.
- 51:01Speaker 7: So I get where they make transferred some of them
- 51:05Speaker 7: into different stadiums so they don't want the empty stadium. Look,
- 51:10Speaker 7: I get that. I think that's a very healthy number
- 51:13Speaker 7: for the Saint Louis battle Hawks.
- 51:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder why Saint Louis had such a high thing.
- 51:23Speaker 1: They got screwed out in two teams. That's why. I mean,
- 51:25Speaker 1: for God's sake.
- 51:27Speaker 6: Can do you make?
- 51:28Speaker 1: You do?
- 51:28Speaker 6: Make a good point, like it makes sense.
- 51:30Speaker 5: You know that they have teams in smaller markets or
- 51:33Speaker 5: different markets than the NFL.
- 51:35Speaker 6: I get that. That makes that's a good point.
- 51:38Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 51:39Speaker 7: Okay, it's more people a chance to play the game
- 51:43Speaker 7: that they love too.
- 51:48Speaker 1: It's a good chance for them to get more gate
- 51:50Speaker 1: bills where they can sign the NFL times or we'll
- 51:52Speaker 1: get to that another time. Cliff, was the one thing
- 51:54Speaker 1: you wanted to add real quick that I we got
- 51:56Speaker 1: to get to my town. We're gonna make my town
- 51:58Speaker 1: all over the place or I'm good here, Marky, go ahead,
- 52:04Speaker 1: lead off.
- 52:05Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure you in my town. You
- 52:08Speaker 2: want something that is going on in one of the
- 52:11Speaker 2: various twenty places that I've lived in my life for
- 52:14Speaker 2: people to watch out for.
- 52:16Speaker 3: Is that the case?
- 52:17Speaker 1: Something like that? And you'll get it figured out off
- 52:19Speaker 1: for the nine million shows I underw.
- 52:21Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll go back to Johnson City and my
- 52:25Speaker 2: first love East sennase State, which I know is not
- 52:27Speaker 2: I don't know if that's my first love, but you
- 52:29Speaker 2: know it's what I talk about. And we had today
- 52:34Speaker 2: Blake Barkley, who is their leading returning scorer at the
- 52:37Speaker 2: ETSU Buccaneers see defending Southern Conference regular season champion, entering
- 52:42Speaker 2: the transfer portal as so many mid majors teams, like
- 52:46Speaker 2: any mid major player with any talent does these days.
- 52:50Speaker 2: He had had a freshman season in the big tenant Northwestern,
- 52:54Speaker 2: where he really didn't play only fourteen minutes all year,
- 52:57Speaker 2: then came on to be a leading scorer and a
- 52:59Speaker 2: very accurate shot maker in the mid major level at ETSU.
- 53:04Speaker 2: He announced his attention his intention to transfer. Well, that
- 53:08Speaker 2: might not be that much of a surprise. Except consider
- 53:12Speaker 2: this the uh you know, there had been dozens of
- 53:18Speaker 2: players in the Southern Conference who already announced their intention
- 53:21Speaker 2: to transfer. The portal doesn't officially open until the day's
- 53:25Speaker 2: following the NCAA tournament. But the situation that I'm looking
- 53:29Speaker 2: at is why now? And could this mean that etsu's
- 53:34Speaker 2: head coach, brooks Savage has become much more of a
- 53:38Speaker 2: candidate for the Georgia State job than anyone really has
- 53:42Speaker 2: given him credit for. We know five guys have interviewed
- 53:45Speaker 2: down at Georgia State. Georgia State has a lot of potential.
- 53:48Speaker 2: It's going to be the biggest university in Georgia. Yeah,
- 53:51Speaker 2: even bigger than the University of Georgia. And it's right
- 53:54Speaker 2: there in Atlanta, where you know, you're starting to think
- 53:57Speaker 2: counter call. You know, there's untappedotential for a fan base there.
- 54:02Speaker 8: So that is has.
- 54:03Speaker 2: The potential the Georgia State Panthers to be an up
- 54:07Speaker 2: and coming program. And I just you know, noticed this
- 54:11Speaker 2: with ETS and just wondered, could brook Savage, who was
- 54:14Speaker 2: very unhappy at ETSU. He's head coach there. He only
- 54:18Speaker 2: has two years left on his contract. I believe he
- 54:21Speaker 2: might be the lowest paid coach in the conference. I'm
- 54:25Speaker 2: not one hundred percent about that, but I know he's
- 54:27Speaker 2: one of the lowest paid, and you know he's been
- 54:31Speaker 2: very much grumbling. I've done a great job here and
- 54:35Speaker 2: we have no money. A program that has a college
- 54:39Speaker 2: that's going to have about fifty thousand students. Uh, you know, yeah,
- 54:44Speaker 2: that might be a place you think that we'll have
- 54:46Speaker 2: more money and can win something to look out for.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Georgia State's going to hire a new coach here in
- 54:51Speaker 2: the coming days.
- 54:51Speaker 3: Who's it going to be? Might be brook Savage from
- 54:54Speaker 3: East Tennessee State. Take a look at that.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Great stuff, Farr Marky. I know you got to get
- 54:58Speaker 1: out of here at ten o'clock, so everybody know how
- 54:59Speaker 1: they get hold you before you bowl ale out of you.
- 55:02Speaker 2: You know, I met phinny s Tennessee State stuff which
- 55:04Speaker 2: has such a big bullock Notre Dame, Alabama et SU.
- 55:08Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 55:09Speaker 2: But if you want to go and see what I'm
- 55:13Speaker 2: doing daily commentaries of him in length, go on YouTube
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- 55:23Speaker 2: Marcus Bilson the fourth or you can also go at
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- 55:32Speaker 2: L S O N and you'll see my stuff and.
- 55:35Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we'll get the luxury of market
- 55:37Speaker 1: Bilson on Wednesday night here in the Sports of take
- 55:40Speaker 1: a nine o'clock. So Markey, glad to have you on
- 55:42Speaker 1: tonight and we'll see you next one there, Thank you,
- 55:45Speaker 1: thank you. All right, So now we're gonna go my
- 55:49Speaker 1: twnel across the board. Cliff, what's going on in your town?
- 55:53Speaker 4: Well, just like I said last week, I was worried
- 55:55Speaker 4: about first base and second base by the New York Mets,
- 56:00Speaker 4: and it's looking like it's already had some issues. Marcus Simeon,
- 56:06Speaker 4: he's past his prime, not doing so great. First base
- 56:10Speaker 4: a mess. Alonso's not there. Oh, let's let's let's try young.
- 56:14Speaker 4: Let's try Brett Beatty. Oh, Brett Beatty this year their
- 56:17Speaker 4: big plan. Oh, we're gonna do with him what we
- 56:19Speaker 4: did with Jeff McNeil, putting him in the outfield. Maybe
- 56:22Speaker 4: a little second, me a little third, maybe a little first,
- 56:25Speaker 4: maybe a little dh. So that's kind of a mess.
- 56:29Speaker 4: The bullpen rich Richard Love Lady in the Bullpen. I
- 56:33Speaker 4: still don't know why they brought him back. He was
- 56:35Speaker 4: horrendous a couple of years ago. I never liked him,
- 56:38Speaker 4: and oh, look at that he's doing so so poorly. Yeah,
- 56:43Speaker 4: they it's got it's oh yeah. They also hired j. D.
- 56:47Speaker 4: Martinez to be a special advisor for the team. Yeah,
- 56:53Speaker 4: it's it's one week, it's one we get they won
- 56:55Speaker 4: a couple games against the Pirates.
- 56:56Speaker 8: We've already talked about the plight of the pirates.
- 57:00Speaker 4: Yeah, do they have some good guys in that lineup?
- 57:02Speaker 6: Sure, but I don't know.
- 57:04Speaker 4: This is I just I'm just disgusted, just disgusted. I
- 57:09Speaker 4: thought it was coming, and now they're always to always
- 57:11Speaker 4: Mendoz are going to be losing his job as j D.
- 57:13Speaker 8: Martinez going to go in there.
- 57:16Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 57:17Speaker 4: It's it once again, spend a bunch of money.
- 57:21Speaker 8: Anya.
- 57:21Speaker 4: They haven't won a champion since the championship since nineteen
- 57:25Speaker 4: eighty six. All right, nineteen eighty six. I was fourteen
- 57:31Speaker 4: years old the last time they won that championship. Okay,
- 57:36Speaker 4: this is here, here we go again, and it's they
- 57:40Speaker 4: had this big hype once again. They made a lot
- 57:44Speaker 4: of big missteps and no offense to the Milwaukee Brewers, Candy,
- 57:49Speaker 4: but I'm tired of them picking up and trading for
- 57:51Speaker 4: guys that are from the Milwaukee Brewers. I get Stearns
- 57:54Speaker 4: was there, but can we sign a few other guys
- 57:57Speaker 4: from another team?
- 57:58Speaker 1: Please? All right, Cliff, good stuff all right to you?
- 58:02Speaker 1: What's going on in your town.
- 58:04Speaker 5: Gotta sound more like your parting shot than your mic town, Cliff.
- 58:07Speaker 1: And I don't know. That's what it looks like to
- 58:08Speaker 1: me too, And yet he does get a parting shot later.
- 58:12Speaker 4: So yeah, I got a lot of lots of banks.
- 58:14Speaker 8: So don't don't you worry about that?
- 58:16Speaker 1: Yeah you do? I have about that. Go ahead.
- 58:20Speaker 5: So my town is you know, I will. You know,
- 58:23Speaker 5: good thing about the Angels we have Mike Trout, bad
- 58:27Speaker 5: thing is they're the Angels. But my other I think
- 58:30Speaker 5: the other guy that's actually probably that no one else
- 58:31Speaker 5: is really talking about. Who I'm gonna give huge praise
- 58:35Speaker 5: to is Jose Siriano. In his first two starts twelve innings,
- 58:40Speaker 5: pitched zero earned runs, four hits, giving up six walks
- 58:46Speaker 5: eleven strikeouts. I mean, this guy was a nobody before
- 58:51Speaker 5: last season, and look at him now. He's our number
- 58:54Speaker 5: one right now. He's on fire. He's looking good. I
- 58:58Speaker 5: think this is the first time ever I want in
- 59:00Speaker 5: Angel's history that in the first two starts in the season,
- 59:04Speaker 5: six innings, zero runs, zero runs, and less than five hits.
- 59:09Speaker 5: This guy is doing incredible right now. And I liked
- 59:13Speaker 5: what I saw from him last year. Yeah, I know,
- 59:16Speaker 5: I think he had an injury that took him out
- 59:18Speaker 5: for a little bit, and I know he was a
- 59:19Speaker 5: little shaky after that, but I knew once the season
- 59:23Speaker 5: got up.
- 59:23Speaker 6: Agoing he would be great again.
- 59:24Speaker 5: So I just want to give a huge, you know,
- 59:27Speaker 5: applause for Jose Siriano on the Angels.
- 59:30Speaker 1: I can't even you know anybody. You started it on
- 59:35Speaker 1: fire up, go ahead, and then I'll finish it. We'll
- 59:38Speaker 1: continue moving on.
- 59:41Speaker 7: So kudos to the Milwaukee Brewers boring bases during the
- 59:46Speaker 7: opening home stand are the most enfranchised history through the
- 59:51Speaker 7: first six games of a season, beating the ninety two
- 59:54Speaker 7: team that went on to lead the Majors and set
- 59:57Speaker 7: a franchise record with two hundred and fifty six steals.
- 1:00:02Speaker 7: Let's all hope and pray that C. C. B. Buckner
- 1:00:07Speaker 7: is okay. He took a foul tip off one hundred
- 1:00:11Speaker 7: mile an hour Jacob Mizowski. Mizerowski fastball straight off the
- 1:00:16Speaker 7: face mask, which actually he had left the game with
- 1:00:20Speaker 7: a concussion, so let's hope he's okay. The Milwaukee Bucks,
- 1:00:26Speaker 7: they're they're not going anywhere, so it's good, good thing
- 1:00:31Speaker 7: that we have the Milwaukee Brewers. And on a hockey note,
- 1:00:36Speaker 7: which you don't normally hear me talk a lot about
- 1:00:38Speaker 7: congratulations to the men's Wisconsin Badgers because they are in
- 1:00:42Speaker 7: the Frozen Four with Michigan, North Dakota and Denver. So
- 1:00:48Speaker 7: kudos to them because both the women and the men's
- 1:00:51Speaker 7: made the Frozen for for women's win.
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: Come back from behind win two, a very strong Michigan
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: State team.
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: Yes, I've only got one for this segment. The Miami
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Hurricanes on the Florida Gators in football, but not in
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: baseball again, and we're gonna talk about Florida Gators baseball
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: for just a moment because Kevin Sullivan, obviously against the
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes is forty four wins and fourteen losses against
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes baseball team. So Kevin Sullivan and then
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Florida Gators, now hats off to them. One of the
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: better programs in the country for sure. Then they're forty
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: four and fourteen against the Miami Hurricanes. Let's continue on here,
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: and we're gonna go talk about hockey and we're gonna
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: talk about the New York Islanders. Well, actually, what we're
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: gonna do, We're gonna go to this segment first. But
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: this is rapid fire. We don't have to go crazy
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: on this one. Which sport is the most underrated? NFL, NBA, MLB,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: NHL slip lead off, We don't need a loan.
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: And this one's easy, NHL by far, by by by
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: far the most underrated. It's you're when you I've said
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: it before, when you when you tell people you're a
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: hockey fan.
- 1:02:09Speaker 8: They think, oh, do you like to kick puppies? Isn't
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: death the one allowed to fight? Why do they allowed
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: to fight? I don't understand why they're allowed to fight.
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: I'm like, when I hear people say that, I know
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: they don't know what they're talking about because the game
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: is not nearly as violent and not as real, not
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: nearly as much fighting. There's there's a coupe to it,
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: there's there's there's there's a culture to all this. Plus
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: everyone's always complaining about, Oh, they're so out of touch.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: These guys are all these athletes are a bunch of
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: ago maniacs. You ever talk to a hockey players, These
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: are some of the most rounded, uh, the nicest players
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: out there. Sure there's a few prima donnas, but come on.
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: People are like, oh, I don't like watching it on television,
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: and it's not as good on television. But when I
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: went to the game, it was so exciting and so amazing.
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: And not to mention, oh, what did you watch the hockey?
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: They only watch hockey when the Olympics pop up, you know, TVUSAS,
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, oh it was really great.
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: Yeah, I know.
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: I've been telling you that for years. You know, it's
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: either the power, the skill amazing. Anytime I have dbates
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: with my students, like they're amazed. I don't like basketball
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: and I love hot because I love I love hockey
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: because oh, well, they that's another thing. It gets disrespected.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: It gets disrespected by the professional world. It gets no time.
- 1:03:26Speaker 8: Is it is it expensive? Sure, I get it. I
- 1:03:29Speaker 8: couldn't afford to play it either.
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: You know, I didn't get my first pair of ice
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: skates till I was thirty, Okay, but I still loved
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: the game. Okay, you want to find a great game,
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: that's a great game. The Nights of the Around Table
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: going for Lord Stanley's Cup, the Holy Grail, and there's
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: no better trophy on the planet. I don't want to
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: hear anything else. The Stanley Cup by far, hands down,
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: best trophy on the planet and the hardest to get,
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: the heardest playoffs period.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: You know, I think the National Hockey you should be
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: hiring you as it open, but I think they should do.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: But I like that this segment that was pretty good.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: I'll tell you, and this is all you are on Facebook.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: That's why I have brought you on here because of
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: this stuff. Great stuff, Cliff. So you say hockey is overrated, okay, underrated, underrated,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm so caught and all your stuff that
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: I must both underrated NHL. All right, Cody, go ahead.
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna straight up piggyback off the cliff.
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: I one hundred percent agree with Cliff on this hockey
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: is the most underrated sport. Because I guarantee you this,
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: I've had I've had friends go to live basketball games,
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: They've gone to live baseball games, and then they go
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: to a live hockey game and now they're a hockey
- 1:04:46Speaker 5: fan for life, like it changes everyone. There's fighting and
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: my wife's literally sitting right here. All her favorite books
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: are all about hockey. It's the biggest sport for in
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: her her books, in a romance books. Sorry, you know
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: you see all those everywhere. You had that heated rivalry
- 1:05:05Speaker 5: show it was what sport was it hockey? You know,
- 1:05:08Speaker 5: it's blowing up you. You have the most action, and
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: you know on this I'm looking at actual live action
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: time per sport. Eleven minutes for football, eighteen minutes for baseball,
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: you know, about forty eight for basketball, and they're saying
- 1:05:27Speaker 5: between forty six to sixty minutes for hockey. You get
- 1:05:31Speaker 5: nothing but action with hockey. It's a one sport where
- 1:05:35Speaker 5: they're allowed to fight, sit for five minutes, get back
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: on the ice, keep playing, and they're probably gonna go,
- 1:05:40Speaker 5: you know, have a beer right after the game with
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: each other. The guys that just smash each other's faces
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: in and there's so much respect for this game. There's
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: no drama, there's no kneeling for the national anthems. It's
- 1:05:50Speaker 5: everyone just standing up and they respect the game. I
- 1:05:54Speaker 5: love this. I love watching this sport. It's so much
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: fun and like I said, hop to do you see,
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: you know, all these kind of countries come together in
- 1:06:04Speaker 5: one sport and just play and have fun. And people say, well,
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: can hockey players do this? I guarantee you hockey players
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: can probably play almost any sport, but not every sport
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: can play hockey.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: Okay, And I like that, all right, Candy.
- 1:06:19Speaker 7: Yeah, mine's gonna be short and simple. I'm gonna go
- 1:06:22Speaker 7: with hockey. Even though I'm not a huge hockey fan.
- 1:06:25Speaker 7: I'm more of a fan of football and baseball, but
- 1:06:29Speaker 7: I think there are more fans of those sports period,
- 1:06:33Speaker 7: and I don't. To play hockey, you have to be
- 1:06:39Speaker 7: very very in shape, you I mean, you go out
- 1:06:43Speaker 7: there and you you have to have good balance, obviously,
- 1:06:47Speaker 7: because you're doing it on a skate, on a thin skate,
- 1:06:50Speaker 7: as opposed to you know, anything else. So I think, yes,
- 1:06:54Speaker 7: I would say hockey is the most underrated it and
- 1:06:58Speaker 7: you know, well.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna Okay. There was a pool conducted
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: by All Sports Culture and twenty five k voted on
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: the sport. There's no question hockey the most underrated. I'll
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: just give you the numbers. Minitel is at sixty percent,
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: MLB at twenty seven percent, NBA at eight percent, NFL
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: five percent. Social unanimous here that hockey is definitely the
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: most underrated sport. And I'll leave it at that. Let's
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: continue on now, we're gonna remain in hockey. This is
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: one we Cliff, and it'll easily handle, and we're probably
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: gonna end up doing with him is I don't know,
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: I give you exclusive here. They got that New York
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: Islander's all time points leaders, Okay, I don't know. I'm
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: gonna kind of leave that as a solo one for you, Cliff,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: and we're gonna go with Brian Trotcier thirteen hundred and
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: fifty three. You actually won a Heart and con Fit Trophy,
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: Mike Bossi eleven twenty sixth nine times fifty goals seasons,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: Dennis pop beIN three times nor hopefully winner with a
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: ten fifty points. We got Brian Trocha with thirteen to
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: fifty three, Ossi with a lot in twenty six, flap
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: In ten fifty two, Clark Gilly six hundred and sixty
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: three points. Then you have John Tavares six hundred and
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: twenty one points, former captain Brent Soon six hundred and
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: ten points some time some winter, Pat Lafontein actually from Mester,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: Detroit at five hundred and sixt or six points, he says,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: the dynamic center and John Bailey five hundred and eighty
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: points A long time I islander. So all right, Cliff,
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: what's one of these players really impresses you the most?
- 1:08:29Speaker 4: Well, my all time favorite player is Brian Trocier, even
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: though because he was two way he's he's lost in
- 1:08:38Speaker 4: the history of people of more current NHL fans and
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: definitely sports fans don't know hockey all time favorite player
- 1:08:48Speaker 4: I have. I can tell you a story I was
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: all of eleven or twelve years old.
- 1:08:54Speaker 8: I got I went to the.
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: The SUNVT Mall in the in the parking lot of
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: SUNVT Mall in the summer, and I got my hockey
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: stick autograph. There's one line for Billy Smith, one line
- 1:09:04Speaker 4: for Brian Trotcier, and I got my I had my
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: Brian Trotchier hockey stick, which is standing right there. It
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: is right it is four feet away from me, autographed
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: still by Brian Trotcier. All right, total when you think
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: about a complete and total like talent both sides of
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: the uh of offense and defense, leader, heart and soul
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: of that team, it was he was. He started off
- 1:09:35Speaker 4: great at early class act throughout the whole time. I
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: will always love Brian Trotcier. Mike Bossi's right behind him.
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: I have to like have arguments with people who know
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: nothing about Mike Bossi. It's very frustrating. Mike Bossy average
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: fifty goals a season. Nine of his ten seasons were
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: fifty goals. The only reason the ten season wasn't It wasn't.
- 1:09:56Speaker 8: He had a bad.
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: Back and he was gone for a bunch of games
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: and he still had thirty, like thirty five goals. You
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: know that that team was astounding. You did speak about
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: the person that we shall not speak of in the
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: Islanders with John Devares, and I will never forgive what
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: for what he did yes to this day. Yeah, I
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: I you know, I never want to see him winn
- 1:10:21Speaker 4: a cup. Never want to see him win a cup.
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: I want to see anything bad happen to the guy,
- 1:10:24Speaker 4: but I never want to see him win a cup.
- 1:10:26Speaker 6: Well, you already know he's not He's a leaf.
- 1:10:29Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know that was that, but they didn't
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: know that at that time because of the way he
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: and it's this this thing. Everyone thinks we're we're crazy
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: about this. But he begged us not to trade him,
- 1:10:41Speaker 4: say don't trade me, don't trade me. They signed Josh
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: Bailey because he thought he was his friend and he
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: was gonna, oh, he'll stay, because he's gonna he's gonna
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: sign because of his friend.
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: He told us not to trade him.
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: We didn't trade him, and we got screwed and we
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: got nothing in back. We could back if we would,
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: if if we were just said hey, we will trade
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: you to Toronto, would give us like William Lee Lander
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: and a couple of draft picks, we would been happy.
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: And that we wouldn't have gotten. He would have not
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: gotten the response he got. He would have had the video,
- 1:11:09Speaker 4: we would have clatform. We would have said, you know,
- 1:11:12Speaker 4: thank you for the memories, good business.
- 1:11:14Speaker 6: But he didn't.
- 1:11:15Speaker 4: And that's why we still hold the rut and we
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: and we got nothing out of him. And we're even
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: more pissed because remember that second Conference championship. They they
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: when they during the during the UH the the COVID seasons,
- 1:11:29Speaker 4: the second Conference Championship against Tampa, we would have won.
- 1:11:33Speaker 4: If he that they would have won it because we
- 1:11:35Speaker 4: would have beaten Tampa in the second one if John
- 1:11:37Speaker 4: Taveris was there, and we would have beaten the hell,
- 1:11:40Speaker 4: holy hell out of Montreal. I know that in my heart,
- 1:11:43Speaker 4: and Sewed is every other Islander fan, and he blew it.
- 1:11:46Speaker 5: I agree with you on that one. I think if
- 1:11:48Speaker 5: you guys would be Tampa, you would have taken Montreal
- 1:11:51Speaker 5: in what five games?
- 1:11:54Speaker 8: Either way, we would have won. There's no doubt in
- 1:11:55Speaker 8: my mind.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, great stuff, All right, let's continue on.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Jeff Passon turned down a job replacing the agent origin Archy.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: He said, I was thinking about the move. All right, Cliff,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? And that last thought that was
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: strictly for Cliff. I just wanted to make sure that
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: he had his island theirs fisk about.
- 1:12:21Speaker 8: I appreciate that.
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I enjoyed what Cody brought to it, so
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: it was okay.
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: It wasn't to that.
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean he's he's his big thing is
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: uh major League baseball. He likes the baseball, had a
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: chance for the NBA. I I can't blame him. If
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's it that's his strong point.
- 1:12:45Speaker 8: He likes it.
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: Maybe they offered him I don't know what they offered
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: him for NBA, But sometimes, you know, you just got
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: to go with your heart.
- 1:12:53Speaker 8: And baseball is his thing. He does a good job
- 1:12:56Speaker 8: with it. I can't blame him to for, you know,
- 1:12:59Speaker 8: saying hey, thanks, but no thanks.
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's it's his it's his career,
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: it's his choice, and he's he's he's he's made his
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: reputation on being a top notch a baseball uh uh
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: analyst and personality.
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: Okay, Toby, I mean it's kind of like what we
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: kind of talked about with Nate Burlson earlier, Like it's
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: kind of hard switching to a sport that you probably
- 1:13:26Speaker 5: don't know as much about or you you know, Jeff
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: would have to go get new connections, you know, meet
- 1:13:33Speaker 5: all the people in the NBA, get all the you know,
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: be involved with everything he already is that in baseball.
- 1:13:41Speaker 5: Now just to make a little bit more money, he
- 1:13:43Speaker 5: has to work twice as hard to get all this
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: connections that Jeff already has already had in baseball. So
- 1:13:49Speaker 5: I could see he's comfortable there. He knows what he's doing,
- 1:13:51Speaker 5: he knows is he has his insiders there to help
- 1:13:54Speaker 5: him out with everything. But doesn't mean he can get
- 1:13:58Speaker 5: that the same thing in basketball. You know, he's comfortable
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: with baseball, stick with it. I don't blame him one
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: bit for wanting to stay with baseball and not want.
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: To take what was it, Woach? What was his name?
- 1:14:11Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, so like he was the best
- 1:14:14Speaker 5: at basketball, Jeff's the best at baseball, and you got
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: Freedman for hockey. So, like I said, I don't blame
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: him one bit for wanting to stay with baseball.
- 1:14:25Speaker 7: Kady, He's done it for twenty three years. It's his
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: first love, and like Cody just said, it takes time
- 1:14:34Speaker 7: to build those relationships. If something happens in the game,
- 1:14:38Speaker 7: you want, you want to your name to be the
- 1:14:42Speaker 7: first one that people want to say, Oh, I need
- 1:14:44Speaker 7: to tell Jeff this, I need to tell this person this.
- 1:14:47Speaker 7: And it's hard to change that mindset going from one
- 1:14:51Speaker 7: sport to a different sport. But I think what makes
- 1:14:55Speaker 7: some of the best broadcasters are ones that put their
- 1:14:59Speaker 7: heart and sole into it. So if your first love
- 1:15:02Speaker 7: is baseball, it's going to come out when you are
- 1:15:05Speaker 7: commentating and you know, reporting on it. And so I think,
- 1:15:10Speaker 7: and what one other point, When you're doing something you love,
- 1:15:15Speaker 7: it's not a job, and I think that matters a
- 1:15:19Speaker 7: lot in life, and I think that gets lost sometimes.
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: So kudos for him.
- 1:15:23Speaker 7: For realizing that and realizing that, like baseball is his
- 1:15:27Speaker 7: first love and that's where he should stay.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a no brainer. I've met Jeff Passon
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: before out of North Carolina. He doesn't blow in the ANBA.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: He's definitely a baseball guy, throwing through between. Sometimes the
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: best move is no move. Dick cli Telle would always say,
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: you know what, you stay where you're happy. So let's
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: go on to another topic, which should be relatively quick.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Let's talk about teams that have never lost the championship
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: minimum one appearance. I'll just go ahead and name the teams,
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: and all I want everybody on this panel to do
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: is maybe one team that you think is the best
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: of all time. From this, you can go with the
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: laboratories you want to, that's up to you. But the
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: reality is is this is a pretty straightforward question.
- 1:16:06Speaker 6: We'll start off with you, Cliff, Well, what was the
- 1:16:10Speaker 6: list you said you're gonna have us.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah, that that one hurt either. Okay, that's nothing.
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: You know. All you did is save me from being
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: el stupid though, No, I forgot all right at the
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers ended up they've never lost a championship,
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins of all teams, the Washington Nationals again
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: at the minimum one appearance. And then he had the
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. Yeah, the well, actually they lost one recently,
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: but that I was on the listen, I had it.
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: The Chicago Bulls, Baltimore Ravens, Ellie Angels again, okay, Toronto Raptors,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: Colorado Avalanche, and the Denver Nuggets. Clip choose one Bulls,
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls Okay, Candy.
- 1:17:02Speaker 7: I was gonna say Chicago Bulls too, because they've won
- 1:17:05Speaker 7: so many that it just is amazing that they've never
- 1:17:07Speaker 7: lost one.
- 1:17:10Speaker 5: Okay, Kobe, I'm gonna go opposite, and I'm gonna stay
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: with my main sport. I'm gonna say the Colorado Avalanche.
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: Each year they've won, they've been the most dominating team,
- 1:17:19Speaker 5: So I'll be I'll be different. I was gonna say
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: the Bulls too, but I'm gonna say I'll say the Avalanche,
- 1:17:25Speaker 5: I'll be different.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna be different than all of you. How about
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: the Miami Marlins winning too, because colland know they're gonna
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: get that third one. So there you go. Let's see
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: a little bit different on this segment. And nothing wrong
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: with that. Okay, get up before the Angels. Okay, well
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: here you go this one, right up your ally, Cliff.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: NBA approves the sale to the Portland trail Blazer Trailblazers
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: to an investor group led by Tom Dunn Dundon, who
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: also owns the Carolina Hurricanes. I'll tell you what we
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: asked the Carolina Hurricanes. They'll strike up you hockey court
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: or your thoughts about the fact that I'm done. Is
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: gonna have a new property.
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: In his pocket.
- 1:18:05Speaker 8: That's interesting.
- 1:18:06Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's he's he's from Dallas, and he's
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: he's done this whole investment. Must be nice to say, hey,
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: I think I want to I own a hockey team.
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: I think I want to buy an NBA team. Must
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: be nice to have that pocket change, to be able
- 1:18:21Speaker 4: to just on a whim, be able to I'm just
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: I just collect sports teams. I don't know how that's
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: gonna go. He's been He's a solid owner for Carolina.
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: Carolina is the best team in the in the division
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: right now, at least standings wise. I don't know how
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: that will hell have the same passion for the Portland
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: Trail Blazers.
- 1:18:47Speaker 8: Maybe it's just a business model.
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: I don't know how how how that will translate over
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they'll be like the Carolina hurric means of
- 1:19:00Speaker 4: the NBA and even though you know they haven't won
- 1:19:04Speaker 4: since you know, the lots well five or six, so yeah,
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: after right after the lock yeah, the lockout.
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So I.
- 1:19:14Speaker 4: I don't know how that's gonna translate, But we just
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: have to wait and see.
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll have the same attention or
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: passion for it. Maybe it's just an investment. I I
- 1:19:26Speaker 4: don't I can't imagine having that much money.
- 1:19:29Speaker 5: Okay, Tody, Well, he does have a way with picking
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: teams with the same colors. But I mean, it's just
- 1:19:39Speaker 5: interesting that he would choose a Carolina team and then
- 1:19:41Speaker 5: a Portland team. You know, that's just kind of different.
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: You would think normally they try to stay within this
- 1:19:46Speaker 5: within the same coast or time zone at least. Yeah,
- 1:19:50Speaker 5: But I mean I didn't know Portland was even for
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: sale at that time. But I mean, maybe he just
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: has the thing for Maybe he wants to switch that
- 1:19:59Speaker 5: brand around, because Carolina was really just mediocre for a
- 1:20:04Speaker 5: long time and then when he bought it, they started
- 1:20:06Speaker 5: getting better and better. Maybe he's gonna try to do
- 1:20:07Speaker 5: the same thing with Portland.
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: You don't know that.
- 1:20:10Speaker 5: And usually let's their gms do their thing, and that's
- 1:20:16Speaker 5: what makes you know. That's why the Hurricanes have always
- 1:20:18Speaker 5: been you know, they've been very competitive last decade. Is
- 1:20:22Speaker 5: they let the GM do their thing and they stay competitive.
- 1:20:25Speaker 5: So I mean, hopefully he lets, you know, the trail
- 1:20:29Speaker 5: Blazers be competitive, and maybe it might be better for them.
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: Let me tell you, let me tell you this. I've
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: covered a couple of Portland Trailblazers games back in the
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: days when they had Rip City. Portland's a great sports
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: sound action. My Neat family is actually been moving there
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: for college. But here's the thing. What's interesting about this
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: whole thing. There's number one, he's good. They're rabbit fans
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: out there in Portland. They really are. It's a good
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: sports sound. I think there are one major sports. Sound,
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: so there's definitely a built in. They have a soccer.
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: They have a soccer MLST team up there. Yeah, but
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: I'm talking about of the four major sports. I know
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: what they're last. I know you're a soccer guy, I
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: get it. I mean, but we're talking about the four
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: majors and you got a soccer. So so you should
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: be happy there that we get it on. They do
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: a help. Yeah, Oh well, I think you do a
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: great job. Hey, he stabilizes the Carolina Hurricanes. More power
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: to him for going to Portland. So I'm happy with
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: the decision. And and you ris assure that the NHL,
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: that the NBA is glad to have an owner of
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: this caliber was actually doing well in the NHL. Go ahead, Gandy.
- 1:21:33Speaker 7: So this ends the nearly forty year ownership by the
- 1:21:39Speaker 7: Paul Allen estate right exactly. The transaction is valued at
- 1:21:45Speaker 7: approximately four point twenty five billion. Eighty point one percent
- 1:21:50Speaker 7: of the stake closes on yesterday, with the remaining nineteen
- 1:21:56Speaker 7: point nine percent closes by September of twenty twenty eight,
- 1:22:01Speaker 7: which I thought was very unusual that it's going to
- 1:22:05Speaker 7: take two over two years for them to get the
- 1:22:08Speaker 7: rest of the whole team. But I understand it. You know,
- 1:22:15Speaker 7: I don't know who's been running the late estate of
- 1:22:18Speaker 7: Paul Allen and running this team, so it makes sense
- 1:22:22Speaker 7: that some someone comes in that can actually, you know,
- 1:22:26Speaker 7: change things and get get things, making more Portland more
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: relevant on the NBA side. So kudos to them. Today
- 1:22:39Speaker 7: is the beginning of a new chapter for the Portland
- 1:22:42Speaker 7: Trailblazers as we build on the legacy of this storied franchise.
- 1:22:46Speaker 7: So it'd be interesting to see what happens with this
- 1:22:56Speaker 7: this franchise.
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: Now they're gonna I truly believe in my mind that
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: they're really going to do well. And I'm really happy
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: that Tom dunnan get gets a piece of his action.
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to one other topic and
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: then we're going to do our party shots, and we're
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: gonna talk about teams that haven't made a conference championship
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: in the twenty first century. Pretty interesting list, by the way,
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: and we'll start off with the Pittsford Pirates, who bad market.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: He's not here for that one. Otherwise, the show was
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: running in three hours, okay, but that's okay, And I
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: think the Washington Wizards are on there. The Utah Manmas
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: can't really count them. Their brand New Orleans Pelicans are
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: on that list. Dallas Cowboys, Dalis Kraken, Cincinnati Red Houston Texans,
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornis, Cleveland Browns, and Colonus Blue Jackets. Cliff, give
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: me one that stands out. We don't need a we
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: don't need a long story on this one.
- 1:23:48Speaker 4: Okay, well it stands out. Well, I'm happy about this standout.
- 1:23:53Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, the greatest Marcus Teine, you know, good, good,
- 1:24:00Speaker 4: I'm happy they have it.
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there you go that. I like that answer. Okay,
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: go ahead, Tony.
- 1:24:06Speaker 6: Have the Twins made it in the last since the
- 1:24:08Speaker 6: twenty first century?
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: No, they're not on them. I don't see him on
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: this list. I have a feeling I don't know. I
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: don't see him on this particular list. Just go by
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: with who we am on this particular.
- 1:24:20Speaker 6: I thought they haven't made it in a long time,
- 1:24:22Speaker 6: so I was curious about that.
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: Well, the rules what we have here, and then who knows,
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: somebody may end up mentioning it when we find and
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: get it back to you another show.
- 1:24:32Speaker 5: I should know if I'm run the Angels beat the
- 1:24:35Speaker 5: Twins in the two thousand and two that's right. I
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: forgot about that in the ALCS. But I mean that's
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: an interesting list. I mean, I agree with Cliff. I
- 1:24:44Speaker 5: just think it's funny how that we have America's team
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: and they can and make it to the semi finals.
- 1:24:49Speaker 5: You know, I don't understand how they have such a
- 1:24:53Speaker 5: high value when they don't win.
- 1:24:56Speaker 6: It just amazes me about that.
- 1:24:59Speaker 5: And I guess that power to Jerry Jones out there
- 1:25:02Speaker 5: for having that team, like, you know, that hive of value,
- 1:25:05Speaker 5: but and can't win. That just amazes me. So But
- 1:25:09Speaker 5: I mean, I said, a very interesting list. I thought
- 1:25:12Speaker 5: there would have been maybe a few more teams on
- 1:25:14Speaker 5: that list, you know, just with how everything's been, especially
- 1:25:17Speaker 5: like basketball, where you have the same like four teams
- 1:25:21Speaker 5: in the final every year almost you know, hockey at
- 1:25:24Speaker 5: least there's other than the last what four or five years,
- 1:25:27Speaker 5: it's usually been every It's been different every year, right, So,
- 1:25:31Speaker 5: like I said, I thought it would have been a
- 1:25:33Speaker 5: little bit of a bigger list. Jacksons, I've been around
- 1:25:39Speaker 5: a lot longer, but you can't blame a man.
- 1:25:43Speaker 4: Don't get me started off. Don't even started.
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: I meant started, because I know what the hell's coming now.
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: I mean, technically, if you put the coyotes and mammoth together.
- 1:25:54Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, this is the whole thing I get upset about.
- 1:25:59Speaker 4: It's like, ever, you're brand new. Oh, this history doesn't
- 1:26:02Speaker 4: exist anymore.
- 1:26:03Speaker 3: You can't do that.
- 1:26:05Speaker 8: That's just silly.
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: And then they got hope.
- 1:26:06Speaker 4: Reason they wanted to keep the history of the Arizona
- 1:26:08Speaker 4: there is because the guy said, oh, I'll bring him back.
- 1:26:11Speaker 8: A couple of months later, it's like, oh, I'm not
- 1:26:13Speaker 8: gonna do that, So.
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: Just give them back their history.
- 1:26:15Speaker 6: Okay, Cliff to.
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: Go there, you know how to happen. Wait a minute,
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: you're gonna do that? Then maybe the Winnipeg Jets up
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: in Manola. No, wait, let me finish.
- 1:26:24Speaker 8: Okay, We'll go ahead, go ahead.
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: I will. They just get all that memorabilia back from
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: Bobby holl and all that. I don't know what they're
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: doing with any of that. I don't know.
- 1:26:33Speaker 4: They were still a franchise, they were still they brought
- 1:26:36Speaker 4: that Winnipeg Jets thing into Arizona.
- 1:26:39Speaker 8: And you can't just say dissolved. But it's like they
- 1:26:44Speaker 8: just didn't. They didn't dissolve. They moved to another team.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Garn Batman, give them the opportunity to get rid of
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: the Coyotes and come up with their own name. What
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: the hell is the words of memorophilia?
- 1:26:57Speaker 7: Have it.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: Just there?
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: I just don't like to saying, oh, this is a
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: brand new team.
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: It's not a new team.
- 1:27:06Speaker 8: It's not it's not a brand new team.
- 1:27:09Speaker 7: It was.
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: Team.
- 1:27:17Speaker 4: It's it got moved, and that they bring that stuff
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: with them. You get Arizona was Arizona. Yeah, there was
- 1:27:23Speaker 4: a big mistake, but you just okay, here, just take
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: the take. Take take the franchise records. I know they're
- 1:27:29Speaker 4: setting all these new records. They're not setting new records.
- 1:27:32Speaker 4: It's the same franchise. And you can't see company boo,
- 1:27:36Speaker 4: it doesn't exist.
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you your part of your homework here,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: it's to contact the U call men that PR people
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: and had to send you a media guy. If you
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: don't do that, go online. Okay, get the online media
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: got and come back there and tell me what you got.
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: I know what they do, but it's.
- 1:27:54Speaker 4: Part of the the the the agreement of moving to Utah,
- 1:27:58Speaker 4: you know, because they oh we we have you can't
- 1:28:00Speaker 4: keep you can't keep the history.
- 1:28:02Speaker 8: They just wanted to get them out of there. Okay, whatever,
- 1:28:04Speaker 8: But there was no point of that. So now that
- 1:28:06Speaker 8: it's it's just gone to history.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: I tell you one thing. Plus, I do this deliberately
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: to rattle you when it comes to see what you're
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: like good.
- 1:28:15Speaker 7: I like it.
- 1:28:15Speaker 5: I like this, agree with Cliff because if they're a
- 1:28:20Speaker 5: whole new team, they got all their draft all the
- 1:28:23Speaker 5: extra draft picks. If it's a brand new team, you
- 1:28:25Speaker 5: shouldn't have had all those extra picks like they did.
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: You know, that new team.
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: It should have been a just.
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: Cody, I'll give you that. But this guy here, I've
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: been dealing with it my faithbook forever. So he's a
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: different animal. This guy. I mean, you know he can
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: sit here, but people, he's all over that place, being
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: one in Siberia and all that. But we'll get into
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: that that time goes on. That's why I love having
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: cliff On here, the professor when it comes to moving
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: everybody around. Now he's on our show on Wednesday night.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Cody, I'm glad you joined this group
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: here because between you Cody, I mean Cody, Cliff and
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: and MARKI you gotta make a team. Wait till cats
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: get here. Candy isn't going to get interesting what Catty
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: gets on. All right, well that's okay. That one could
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: be for everyone. Make sure we get party shots and
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: go ahead, Candy, let's talk about this list.
- 1:29:18Speaker 7: You know, you kind of have to go for Dallas
- 1:29:21Speaker 7: because they spend the most money, and I mean, Jerry,
- 1:29:25Speaker 7: how can he not get a championship? But I also
- 1:29:30Speaker 7: think you have to look at like the Cleveland Browns,
- 1:29:33Speaker 7: and yes they're a horrible franchise, but when was the
- 1:29:37Speaker 7: last time they won? Like it took such a long
- 1:29:40Speaker 7: time ago, I thought, I think it was very interesting.
- 1:29:45Speaker 7: Some of the ones on that list, like the Pirates
- 1:29:48Speaker 7: as well, when you look at the different sports, but
- 1:29:52Speaker 7: they don't spend money.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: Now, I mean, I'm gonna go with everybody here. The
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: Cantles Cowboys are easily the one that you talk about.
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: So all right, we're gonna do as they're parting shots,
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: unless Cliff wants to keep this thing going and turn
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: it in ahead, we can.
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: Do parting shots.
- 1:30:06Speaker 8: We can do parting shots.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: I'm just mess I want I want to hear.
- 1:30:12Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, come on, bring it on, man, I
- 1:30:14Speaker 4: bring I brought.
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: You on the first place. All right, Cliff, you don't
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: want to go ahead and do your parting shots.
- 1:30:20Speaker 8: Parting shots?
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: Okay?
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: Once again New York Islanders. I said they were going
- 1:30:25Speaker 4: to collapse. They're collapsing. Who They lose to the Chicago Blackhawks.
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: Somehow they beat Dallas because well, I guess a few
- 1:30:31Speaker 4: of their guys were out. And then oh, it's a
- 1:30:33Speaker 4: big game. They're playing Pittsburgh.
- 1:30:35Speaker 8: They get throttled.
- 1:30:36Speaker 4: Then they play the next night they lose to Buffalo.
- 1:30:40Speaker 8: This is not a good And I get.
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: Annoyed with my own fans team, my team of the
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: fans of my team, because a lot of wear blue
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: and orange glasses, you know, being a fan of this
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: team for so long, since nineteen eighty, I went through
- 1:30:56Speaker 4: that thirty year insane asylum of torch sure with this team,
- 1:31:01Speaker 4: with the with the stupidity, and the fake owners and
- 1:31:04Speaker 4: and and trading away hall of famers like Roberta. Lauongo
- 1:31:08Speaker 4: and the Daniel Chara for nothing, and and the Millberry's
- 1:31:13Speaker 4: and the Garth Snows. Oh, we're firing our GM after
- 1:31:18Speaker 4: like forty days are he quits and then we're gonna
- 1:31:21Speaker 4: put our back up GM as the backup goalie as
- 1:31:24Speaker 4: the GM. You can't write things like it.
- 1:31:27Speaker 8: So now are they better? Sure?
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: Did Lamerello and the the Trots bring some credibility, Yes,
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: but they haven't built from from what they've done since then.
- 1:31:40Speaker 4: They are not going for youth. They keep resigning old guys.
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: They're called the cul de Sac crew because everyone just
- 1:31:47Speaker 4: likes playing in the on the cul de Sac, going
- 1:31:50Speaker 4: to barbecues, not being held responsible for winning. They they
- 1:31:54Speaker 4: they're guys are getting too old, too small, too slow,
- 1:31:58Speaker 4: and it's showing up. We have the best goal, one
- 1:32:00Speaker 4: of the best goals. Sure, So Broking is awesome. Schaeffer
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: talked about him last week.
- 1:32:04Speaker 8: He's awesome.
- 1:32:05Speaker 4: All right, I can't believe we have him. Barzel Horvack. Okay,
- 1:32:09Speaker 4: they're they're being good too, but they all season I'm like,
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: this is this, this is a house of cards and
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: it's gonna come down.
- 1:32:16Speaker 8: Was I happy with the wins?
- 1:32:17Speaker 4: Sure, but now they're just they're collapsing left and right,
- 1:32:21Speaker 4: and it's it's coming.
- 1:32:22Speaker 8: It's coming to fruition.
- 1:32:24Speaker 4: Maybe they maybe they they slide in, but they're gonna
- 1:32:27Speaker 4: have to play a Tampa. They're gonna have to play
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: at Carolina, and heck, they couldn't even beat Pittsburgh. I
- 1:32:33Speaker 4: thought Pittsburgh could.
- 1:32:34Speaker 6: It's bad.
- 1:32:35Speaker 8: It's it's bad.
- 1:32:36Speaker 4: And they have they have, they have hope on the horizon,
- 1:32:40Speaker 4: but they have to make the right moves and I'm
- 1:32:42Speaker 4: not sure if they're gonna do that.
- 1:32:44Speaker 5: Okay, Totyn Jack, all right, I'm gonna just rebuttal On Cliff,
- 1:32:49Speaker 5: but did you expect the Islanders to be where they're
- 1:32:51Speaker 5: at this year before the season started.
- 1:32:54Speaker 4: As close as they are, to have not as close
- 1:32:56Speaker 4: as they are, but because I expected them to lose worse.
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: But this has just been false hope, it's been It's
- 1:33:02Speaker 4: been false the whole time. I'm like, it's gonna I'm
- 1:33:06Speaker 4: at It's forty three years, forty three years since we
- 1:33:09Speaker 4: las one to Stanley Cup, and I don't want to
- 1:33:11Speaker 4: get to fifty four.
- 1:33:13Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't want to get to That's the Rangers thing.
- 1:33:15Speaker 4: I don't want to get to Ray. I don't want
- 1:33:17Speaker 4: to get fifty four, and we're getting closer and closer
- 1:33:19Speaker 4: to that. That's my problem, all right, all right?
- 1:33:21Speaker 5: My parting shot is Italy once again has ruined my
- 1:33:29Speaker 5: World Cup chances. They got eliminated yesterday in penalties to Bosnia.
- 1:33:35Speaker 5: This is the first time a storied international club like Italy,
- 1:33:40Speaker 5: who's won multiple World Cup Cups, has missed three consecutive
- 1:33:46Speaker 5: World Cup qualifying.
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: You're telling me they added teams.
- 1:33:50Speaker 5: To this World Cup and they still can't make the
- 1:33:54Speaker 5: qualifying Like really, you're a one of the top countries out,
- 1:34:00Speaker 5: like you're that's what your country's known for, and you
- 1:34:03Speaker 5: still can't make the freakin World Cup? Like are you
- 1:34:07Speaker 5: kidding me? It has to go to a shootout just
- 1:34:10Speaker 5: for you to make it, and you still can't even
- 1:34:11Speaker 5: win in that. And they had the lead in the
- 1:34:14Speaker 5: game too, And I heard there was a red card
- 1:34:16Speaker 5: in the game. I haven't watched the game. I didn't
- 1:34:18Speaker 5: see the red card or the tackle or whatever happened.
- 1:34:22Speaker 5: But still it shouldn't even come c to that point
- 1:34:26Speaker 5: at all. Italy is such a big country for soccer.
- 1:34:30Speaker 5: It's better when Italy is. It's better for soccer when
- 1:34:34Speaker 5: Italy's in and competing.
- 1:34:37Speaker 6: And they just can't. I don't know what it is.
- 1:34:39Speaker 5: They won the Euro in twenty twenty one or twenty
- 1:34:42Speaker 5: twenty two, whenever it was, and they can't even qualify
- 1:34:45Speaker 5: for the World Cup, Like, are you kidding me? Like
- 1:34:47Speaker 5: I'm if I when I saw when I got that
- 1:34:50Speaker 5: notification yesterday, I wanted to throw my phone.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, I'll give you some good advice
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: about throwing your phone because when you bring soccer backed up,
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: you can throw while we talk about it topic on
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: sports Trap.
- 1:35:01Speaker 5: Okay, I'm thrilled because then I'm paying for a new
- 1:35:03Speaker 5: phone and I don't have that kind of money, so
- 1:35:05Speaker 5: I'm not throwing it.
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: You're not. As long as you're not logging in from
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: your phone, then you can pay for a new phone.
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: We will mention that when Dave Bradley comes on. I
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: can't give me a parting shot.
- 1:35:16Speaker 7: I actually have two, and I'm going to make them
- 1:35:19Speaker 7: very very quick. One rest in peace to Jack You.
- 1:35:23Speaker 7: He was a Wisconsin former Wisconsin tight end that died
- 1:35:27Speaker 7: at age twenty five. It has not come out what
- 1:35:31Speaker 7: he died of, but he did leave the program due
- 1:35:34Speaker 7: to mental illness, so I'm hoping it wasn't that, but
- 1:35:39Speaker 7: rest in peace to him and his family. My second
- 1:35:44Speaker 7: parting shot is kudos to the MLB for installing the
- 1:35:49Speaker 7: ABS system and the challenge.
- 1:35:53Speaker 8: If any of you.
- 1:35:53Speaker 7: Saw the horrific call that the Brewers were victim that
- 1:36:00Speaker 7: almost were victimized. Yesterday on what was the single worst
- 1:36:05Speaker 7: Cebe Buckner call of all time, where he called that
- 1:36:10Speaker 7: the runner missed first base and was tagged out. He
- 1:36:15Speaker 7: clearly touched the base. The umpire was not watching worst call.
- 1:36:23Speaker 7: Both managers on both teams were laughing at how bad
- 1:36:28Speaker 7: that call was. And yes we challenged the call, Yes
- 1:36:33Speaker 7: we won. What I would hope is that Major League
- 1:36:37Speaker 7: Baseball would take note of how many missed calls or
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: blatantly wrong calls some of these umpires are making and
- 1:36:47Speaker 7: that they take action with that. And I get it's
- 1:36:50Speaker 7: a human element, but something like this where he totally
- 1:36:55Speaker 7: touches walks on the base and he says that he
- 1:36:58Speaker 7: never hit the base totally incorrect.
- 1:37:01Speaker 6: So kudos, welcome to the C. B. Buckner experience.
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: The worry we'll be talking about baiateful to fairyfoot, looking
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: to get his teeth and him. I'll only have one,
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: but unfortunately it's a rest in peace for all the
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: wrong reasons. I'm gonna get ready to it. Number one,
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: Rest in peace to the Coral Springs. Vice Mayor Nancy
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: Matteyr Bowen was killed in a domestic violence incident and
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: her husband is now in testody. Police say, it's just
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: unfortunate a person like this has to die. There's a
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: domestic violence and her husband is the one that did it.
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: This is something that is just it's ridiculous. It's bad.
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: So once again, rest in peace, Miss Bowen. And you know,
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: I'm thinking one thing about Florida though. This is the
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: one seat if you're glad to live in it. They
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: do have the death pedaly. I don't know if her
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: ex husband will get it, but they always seek for
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: it when they need to do it. So and away,
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: we'll keep the focus on miss Bowen. To the rest
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: of peace. Nancy Mattayor Bowen gone way too soon. All right,
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: Well that does it for this edition of the Spots Game.
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: Bel Before we go, we're gonna everybody know how to
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: get all those candy's gonna go out there and give
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: us one station break. Go ahead, Cliff Uh.
- 1:38:15Speaker 4: You can find me on Facebook, Cliff Neil, just look
- 1:38:18Speaker 4: my name and you can see me here every week
- 1:38:20Speaker 4: on this wonderful podcast.
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: So happy to be here and we're glad to have you. Cliff.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: I love God. I love it when you and I
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: challenge each other. This is this really makes my night.
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: I don't care how much sleep I get after these shows.
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: There's guys like you keep my fiery engine going and
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: between you and Markey and now Cody is getting hang
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: of this group. I'll tell you one thing. It's pretty
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: entertaining and it's all right. Erik Kant is on the way.
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: Okay with that's that Tody watches. Everybody know they get old. Yeah,
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: Cody speak joins us every Thursday night on Sports Trap
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: with or Talkie or Soccer. Cody's there week in a
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: week out. Go ahead, Tody take it from back.
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you can find me here every Wednesday and
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: Thursday talking. I'm happy to be here on Wednesday night.
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: Got to talk about other sports and everything, and like
- 1:39:03Speaker 5: I gotta talk about hockey and soccer on Thursdays. But
- 1:39:06Speaker 5: you can mainly find me on all social media at
- 1:39:09Speaker 5: Royal le Quack. You know, my father and I have
- 1:39:11Speaker 5: a Ducks and King's podcast together. We go live every
- 1:39:15Speaker 5: Saturday at ten am Pacific Standard time. Thank you for
- 1:39:18Speaker 5: that Candy from last week. So, uh, like I said,
- 1:39:24Speaker 5: we have some interesting things coming up. We do have
- 1:39:26Speaker 5: I've been talking to a couple of people getting more interviews,
- 1:39:29Speaker 5: so we, like I said, we just had the Darryl
- 1:39:32Speaker 5: Evans one come out a couple of weeks ago, so
- 1:39:34Speaker 5: please go check that out. So much fun to talk to,
- 1:39:38Speaker 5: and we're gonna be talking, you know, about the current
- 1:39:41Speaker 5: injuries with the Ducks and the new They just signed
- 1:39:44Speaker 5: their top prospect, Roger McQueen to their future ELC, So
- 1:39:49Speaker 5: I'm we're gonna be talking about this Saturday.
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