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Furness Show 12-3: Nick Emmanwori, Stewart Mandel, Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in Virginia, Mason Athletic Center. Infron,
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  Speaker 1: that's with you here, and this is fun. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him. We have this season
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  Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Nick
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  Speaker 1: emn Warri joins us right now. Seahawk safety linebacker, nickel Man,
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  Speaker 1: defensive back, utility player, all things fun. One of the
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  Speaker 1: most popular young players on this team.
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  Speaker 2: Number three. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing good man. That's a great introduction. I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: the introduction.
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  Speaker 2: Don't work okay for you?
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  Speaker 4: That was good.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's just let's get to the year. What's
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  Speaker 2: it been like you come in here.
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  Speaker 1: You probably saw the Seahawks from Afar, but getting a
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  Speaker 1: chance to go out there, Loomingfield is alive again.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a ton of fun.
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  Speaker 1: People are loving watching you play on this Mike McDonald defense,
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  Speaker 1: what's been like for you so far?
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  Speaker 3: It's been a good ride. We've been trying to soak
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  Speaker 3: him our rookie year. You know, that's what Audi has
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  Speaker 3: been telling me. I think we got a special team,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I think the time is now
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  Speaker 3: right now for you know whatever, trying to get as
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  Speaker 3: a team and our goals. I think I think the
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  Speaker 3: time is now, and I think we have the great team.
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  Speaker 3: You have an amazing team to do what we need
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  Speaker 3: to do. But it's been it's been a hell of
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  Speaker 3: a year, and I'm just excited to be here. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just soaking in everything.
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  Speaker 1: I joked about the man of all trades when I
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  Speaker 1: introduced you, but that's true. When they drafted you, what
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  Speaker 1: did they tell you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't really tell me anything, but they
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  Speaker 3: kind of just We're just trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 3: all I can do, you know. You know, I did
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  Speaker 3: a lot a little bit in college, real versatile, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, an NFL is a different ball game, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit like essentially, it's like, you know, it's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a learning curve and it's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a you know, it's a different ball game,
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  Speaker 3: different players out there, different athletes. So just throughout training
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  Speaker 3: camp and when I first got here, they're just seeing all.
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  Speaker 4: What I could do.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if I can cover people, if I can
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  Speaker 3: tacklef icking blitz, if I can you know, play off
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  Speaker 3: the ball, play on the ball, playing a deep part
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  Speaker 3: of the field.
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  Speaker 4: What can I do?
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  Speaker 3: So just throughout training camp. I was just showing them
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  Speaker 3: my versatility, just being me, and I think Mike's done
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  Speaker 3: a great job as far as like showcase of my
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  Speaker 3: ability and like you know, he's he's he's done a
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  Speaker 3: great job and just making sure I'm in the right
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  Speaker 3: position and just let me fly and rip it.
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  Speaker 1: Nick, were there any for you coming in? There's two
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  Speaker 1: guys that were mentioned when you got drafted, and two
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  Speaker 1: guys are probably still mentioned. They tell me, you're watching
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  Speaker 1: an NFL broadcast, they mentioned that one guy wore thirty
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  Speaker 1: one not three, and you know Cam very well, know
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  Speaker 1: who he is. And then Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore. You're
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  Speaker 1: neither one of those guys. I think you're your Nick
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  Speaker 1: even worry But when you hear people talk about you
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  Speaker 1: in that vein, is that a good thing? Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it challenging?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 1: I want to make my own name. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think about when you hear those two names brought up?
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  Speaker 1: Because you hear those names brought up a lot with you.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, especially with two great players, especially Cam, you know,
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  Speaker 3: being drafted here kind of the same body type, same size.
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  Speaker 3: You know a lot of people are like comparing me,
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  Speaker 3: trying to like make comparisons and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And like you said, I think I'm my own player.
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  Speaker 3: But I think Cam's like he kind of like he
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  Speaker 3: was one of my favorite safeties to watch, but like
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  Speaker 3: just just to watch them. I don't think I really
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  Speaker 3: play like him. I think we have like two different
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  Speaker 3: play styles. I'm a little bit more versatile and like
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more as you can say, like Kyle Hamilton.
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  Speaker 3: But I respect Cam a lot, and I think he's
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  Speaker 3: done great in Seattle. But even when you talk about
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  Speaker 3: coll hymns and uh, you know, I think my play
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  Speaker 3: style kind of replicates him well enough, Like if you
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  Speaker 3: watch the tape, we do a lot of the same stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Mike was at Baltimore when he was there
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  Speaker 3: early in his career. So but I think still even then,
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  Speaker 3: I'm my own player too. I think on my own,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I have my own stuff. I do
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  Speaker 3: better than both those players, and the stuff they have
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  Speaker 3: they do better than me.
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  Speaker 1: So NICKI in order with us, I'll tell you this
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  Speaker 1: and you'll like it radio so people can't see this.
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  Speaker 1: And I love cam our friend Julius here with us
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  Speaker 1: from the PR staff. I covered I'd work TV for
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  Speaker 1: a long time cover this team and did a million
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  Speaker 1: interviews with Cam Chancellor. Loved the guy to death. One
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite people to talk to, Very honest, very blunt.
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  Speaker 1: I never saw a smile like that. Nick even wore
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  Speaker 1: has a smile on his face.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're smiling on the field. But that's different.
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  Speaker 1: Cam was just a he was a straight out of
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  Speaker 1: sass in that guy like he was. He was a
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  Speaker 1: different dude.
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  Speaker 2: But you are.
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  Speaker 1: I think you are very different in that regard. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you like to play physical though, right, Like you
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  Speaker 1: just talk about that. That's not something that you shy
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  Speaker 1: away from. I mean you're a fit player, of course.
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  Speaker 1: Difference between sitting in center field and letting Earl Thomas
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  Speaker 1: guy the guy into him and just killing some dude
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  Speaker 1: and you.
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  Speaker 2: But you like to play physical. You like to play
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  Speaker 2: in the box, don't you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like playing the box especially you know, it's it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: I know you gotta attack guys. You can't shy away
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  Speaker 3: from smoke, you know, especially in a perimeter game. I
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  Speaker 3: love when they try to like put dudes out there
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  Speaker 3: to block me and I'll blow up screens like you know,
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  Speaker 3: I take that.
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  Speaker 4: I take that person. I take that as a challenge
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  Speaker 4: when they.
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  Speaker 2: Try to put dudes out there to especially the wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wire, see you can't do that, you know. I
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  Speaker 4: take that super personal.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, whenever I get my opportunities in the
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  Speaker 3: deep back into the field to you know, play that
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  Speaker 3: deep safety and get those angles out the catch dudes
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  Speaker 3: lacking and stuff, I'll be ready for that too, and
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  Speaker 3: I'll be looking for that too. But as far as
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  Speaker 3: right now, I know just the position I'm in. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you like, you gotta be more physical down there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing with the front seven a little bit and different
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  Speaker 3: coverages and stuff, knowing when to shoot gaps, known when
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  Speaker 3: you got to take on the line, and knowing you
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  Speaker 3: can blow stuff up.
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  Speaker 4: So it's been fun just doing everything.
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  Speaker 1: Really, Nick, is it is the genius of Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's your first NFL coach and you're a rookie,
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  Speaker 1: But isn't the genius of Mike McDonald that he brings
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  Speaker 1: a guy like you in that maybe doesn't fit into
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  Speaker 1: the box like this is what a This is what
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  Speaker 1: a safety or a nickel or whatever should look like.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with a Kyle Hamilton and I think that
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  Speaker 1: was what Pete's back when Pete was at his pinnacle.
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  Speaker 1: Here found guys with Brandon Browner, Richard Sherman didn't fit
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  Speaker 1: into a box what they wanted. But to find a
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  Speaker 1: guy like you say, that's a unique talent and make
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  Speaker 1: it work for you. Is that kind of what makes
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's such a good coach in your mind? I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 3: I think Mike, you know, he is my first NFL coach,
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  Speaker 3: but from all the guys and just being around him
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  Speaker 3: myself personally, like he's probably like one of the smartest
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  Speaker 3: coaches I've ever had. Like he's like real, He's into
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  Speaker 3: the game, like he really he's not. He's the real deal.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's a littit of both of just
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  Speaker 3: learning how to, you know, use my talent and he's
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  Speaker 3: done it before and he just knows. And I think
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  Speaker 3: I'm like a mismatch positionless type of player, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: they don't know what you know, if the count him
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  Speaker 3: and Nickel or do I counts Big Nickel when I'm
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  Speaker 3: in dom or Like what do they do they count
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  Speaker 3: me in a run game?
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  Speaker 4: Do they not count me in a run game. Do
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  Speaker 4: they block me?
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  Speaker 2: Do they not?
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  Speaker 4: So it's kind of giving teams.
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  Speaker 3: A hard time to like figure out what to do
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  Speaker 3: me and how to attack me and like try to
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  Speaker 3: get around me. So it just makes us a better
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  Speaker 3: defense as whole when you can't really tell like who's
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  Speaker 3: out there, you know, just like how offense is.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they get a giant to like throw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: And they get they all their tight ends can line
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  Speaker 3: up at receiver or whatever. It's kind of like the
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  Speaker 3: same thing we're doing on defense. Like you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: real multiple.
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  Speaker 1: Have you have you had to try to block Cooper
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  Speaker 1: Cup and practice yet or have him block you yet?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had Coops a great blocker.
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  Speaker 1: Actually he's when you cause when you so as you
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  Speaker 1: said that, like you take offense when a wide receiver blocks.
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  Speaker 2: Shit, he's one of the best blocking He's a different dude.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of the best blocking receivers.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, during training camp, he was really giving
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  Speaker 3: me a hard time, like like he has different techniques
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  Speaker 3: and he's real firm at the point of attack, so like,
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  Speaker 3: uh he he gets to you quick to to like
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  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you can tell when.
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  Speaker 4: Someone's crack blocking.
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  Speaker 3: But he'll kind of hide it and then he'll like
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  Speaker 3: fake like he's going to the safety and to end
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  Speaker 3: up coming to Cracky.
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  Speaker 4: So he's he's real good at.
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  Speaker 1: The who's who on this defense has kind of helped
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  Speaker 1: you out as a rookie, taking you under their wing.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of I mean, there's a lot of veterans,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of veterans up front, there's some veterans in
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  Speaker 1: the back end. Who's really kind of been a guy
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  Speaker 1: you can go to and say, hey, listen, man, I
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  Speaker 1: got a question about this. Maybe it's not even on
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  Speaker 1: the field, maybe it's off the field, just to becoming
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  Speaker 1: an NFL player. Who have you been able to kind
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  Speaker 1: of lean on?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely Kobe Bryant in the safety room.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we sit right beside each other in the film,
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  Speaker 3: so he's he's kind of like to do what I've
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  Speaker 3: been leaning on and talking to the most as far
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  Speaker 3: as life, just helping me out and figuring out this
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  Speaker 3: NFL game, which you know he's doing doing a great job.
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  Speaker 3: And I've just been kind of following his lead and
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  Speaker 3: trust him as a VET.
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  Speaker 1: And that's probably a good guy to do that, just
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, we talked about your versatility. He came
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  Speaker 1: in here as an outside corner Thorpe Award winner, best
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  Speaker 1: corner in the Nation. Yeah, played with some guy named Sauce,
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  Speaker 1: but he had he got the awards, and then they
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  Speaker 1: convert him to a nickel starts as a nickel guy,
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  Speaker 1: battles to adversity, and you probably know the story. And
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  Speaker 1: now he's a starter in the second dary. He's probably
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  Speaker 1: a good guy to lean on in that regard, and
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  Speaker 1: also shows you what the NFL is all about.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Great, great vet, great, great, you know, great football player,
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  Speaker 3: great person all around.
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  Speaker 1: So I respect him a lot in that regard. The defense,
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  Speaker 1: This is the world we live in now with sports.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be guilty of it right now. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to say other people say it. I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: it too. We all compare, We play the compare game.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do. The defense is here in the
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  Speaker 1: heyday in twenty twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, best in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL elite. They had an attitude, they had a swagger.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I see that coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I see that.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I see that here. Different personnel, different guys,
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  Speaker 1: but I see that is there a swagger in that room?
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  Speaker 1: Is there kind of like, hey, put put the game
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  Speaker 1: in our hands if the offense is struggle and put
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: In our hands.
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  Speaker 1: But is there a swagger and who kind of leads
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  Speaker 1: that that kind of alpha male swagger charge in a sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah for Shure, for sure. I mean how can we
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  Speaker 3: not have swag? You know, we got like dudes like
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  Speaker 3: spoon dudes like Jared Reed, Leo d Law, Like you know,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say there's like a premier alpha. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's like a pack of wolves. We're all alphas out there,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, it's kind of like unheard of almost
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  Speaker 3: like you kind of like there was a one leader,
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  Speaker 3: but we got offhas in every room, the multiple multiple
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  Speaker 3: dudes in every room, whether that's in linebacker room, the
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  Speaker 3: d line room, or the secondary. So it's like we
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  Speaker 3: got a real special group of guys. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: really think people like, well people are giving us our credit.
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  Speaker 3: We really don't care if they do or not, but
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  Speaker 3: like people don't really understand what we really got here,
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  Speaker 3: Like it is real.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Reed gets it, like he's that guy I know,
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  Speaker 2: he's on the injury list right now.
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  Speaker 3: But he kind of leads the pack as yeah, so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he he breaks down the the huddles before we go out,
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  Speaker 3: he gives us a little speech and like you know,
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  Speaker 3: he gets dudes fired up. So he definitely U you know,
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  Speaker 3: leads a pack in that regard real quick.
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  Speaker 2: With Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: You probably what you've watched the tape y now we
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's b Jean Robinson, scary dude. Drake London
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  Speaker 1: probably is gonna play this week, Kyle Pitts. They got
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  Speaker 1: some skill out there. What do you see on tape
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  Speaker 1: from the Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: They got a good group of good group of guys
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  Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball. But I think
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  Speaker 3: we got a great defenders on the defense side of
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  Speaker 3: the bus. I think we'll match up Will but uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can't really say too much, but just
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  Speaker 3: give him the respect.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say nothing, not a you know, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't don't want to put you in that position.
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  Speaker 1: Let me find final thing for you. There's a huge
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  Speaker 1: game coming up against the Rams in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: That's we all kind of know what. That's what's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be more than likely on the line. Big shout out
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  Speaker 1: and thank you to the Carolina Panthers, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for taking pare of the business last week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you to them.
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  Speaker 1: How is it a focus for you guys? One game
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  Speaker 1: at a time. It's the sports cliche that never goes away.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is, you guys know what the standings
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  Speaker 1: look like, you know what's at staked the next few weeks,
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  Speaker 1: you know what's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: How hard is it to stay focused week to week?
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  Speaker 1: Especially you know, I mean you played a team last
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  Speaker 1: week frankly that was a lesser opponent, rookie quarterback. How
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  Speaker 1: hard is it to stay at that same level and
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  Speaker 1: focusing on every week when you know what's at stake
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  Speaker 1: coming up?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: just say the cliche answer because you know that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like real media talk.
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  Speaker 2: But just why we're going again, by the way, just.
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  Speaker 3: Being real, like, you know, it's the month of December,
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  Speaker 3: football games again, tight and uh, I know what type
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  Speaker 3: of team we have and I think everyone has that
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  Speaker 3: game circled honestly, you know, you know, just looking at
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  Speaker 3: how we've been trending as a team, and we've been
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  Speaker 3: stacking wins each each each week I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like that's that's definitely gonna be gang for
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  Speaker 3: all the marbles right there. And I think you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I know the team's excited, and uh, we
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  Speaker 3: can't wait till we get there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But this is there's been a ton of fun and
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  Speaker 1: I know Seak fans been wanting to hear from you
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  Speaker 1: for a long long time on our station, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad we got a chance to sit down talk. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: we can do it again. I appreciate spending time during
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  Speaker 1: the lunch hour to do this and save travels. Bestlockdown Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk again, of course, appreciate it. That's Nick emon
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  Speaker 1: Warre joining us here. We'll take a quick break, come
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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go, time to check in with
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: our good friend Stewart Mandel, The Athletic, All Things college Football,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: the Audible Podcast.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Been waiting to do this for a couple of days now.
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  Speaker 1: Although I don't know, I feel like I've heard a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Stuart lately because there's been a lot of
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Audible podcasts and a lot.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Of columns on the athletic.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've got a lot of information from
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: people named Mandel, Russel Feldman, the three amigos there, among
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  Speaker 1: others of the athletic. But boy, there's a lot going
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  Speaker 1: on in college football, all kinds of stuff. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get to it. Stuart, how are you today?
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  Speaker 7: I'm grad Ian. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. There's well, let's just first of all,
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  Speaker 2: talk about the rankings.
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  Speaker 1: So they come out yesterday, and you know, we've got
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  Speaker 1: championship weekend coming up, so we know one and two,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana safe, Georgia safe. You know, we can
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: talk about buys and so forth, Texas Tech appears safe,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Oregon probably safe. Ole miss moves up one, which we'll
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: get to in a second. But everyone in the country
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: right now is talking about really spots nine, ten, eleven,
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  Speaker 1: and twelve. Nine at Alabama, ten, Notre Dame, BYU, and
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  Speaker 1: Miami round out those twelve just in general, and we'll
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: get to some specifics. What was your read on what
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: came out yesterday with the second to last College Football
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  Speaker 1: All rankings.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think that they gave Miami a chance. You know,
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  Speaker 7: all this time, there's been a lot of frustration out there,
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  Speaker 7: Hey Miami b Nerdame on the field, Why are they
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  Speaker 7: still behind them? And the committee has kept saying because
• 13:15
  Speaker 7: they're not close enough. Well, you see how it plays
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  Speaker 7: out there now with the switch between Alabama and Nerdame
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  Speaker 7: and now Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame b YU Miami.
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  Speaker 7: If BYU loses the Texas Tech, especially if it's not close.
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  Speaker 7: Now suddenly Nerdame and Miami are right next to each other,
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  Speaker 7: and I just have to think at that point they
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  Speaker 7: would flip them. I just cannot imagine the committee ignore
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  Speaker 7: because if you look at the rest of the rankings,
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  Speaker 7: there's lots of lots of ones where they're ordered by
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  Speaker 7: head to head, Why they would just ignore this one
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  Speaker 7: if they're literally right next to each other. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I don't, I don't think that would happen.
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  Speaker 1: Let me steal something from your podcast. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Ralph brought up what if and and you know, I
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: guess this would be the big what if?
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  Speaker 2: But what if.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama loses, which they will, but close to Georgia, and
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  Speaker 1: would they would they dare bump Notre Dame above Alabama
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  Speaker 1: in Notre Dame all of a sudden nine Alabama ten.
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  Speaker 1: And that way, there's that one little bit of separation,
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  Speaker 1: is that can give the committee an out to not
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  Speaker 1: use the head to head, which they have been reluctant
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  Speaker 1: to do so far.
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  Speaker 7: I know he said that, Hunter Yurchik said that you
• 14:22
  Speaker 7: know this, this, this great win they had at Auburn
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  Speaker 7: was what was false of them over Notre Dame. But
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  Speaker 7: it sure feels like they're giving themselves a buffer. I
• 14:31
  Speaker 7: just cannot imagine the committee dropping. You know, Alabama goes
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  Speaker 7: and plays an extra game, loses in the SEC championship
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  Speaker 7: game to a team they already beat on the Earth,
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  Speaker 7: and then drops out of the playoff entirely, very hard
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  Speaker 7: to imagine. I think that only comes into play if
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  Speaker 7: it's a complete blowout. If it's a complete blowout, you know,
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  Speaker 7: there are people who will say you shouldn't get punished
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  Speaker 7: for losing the conference championship game, especially if it means
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  Speaker 7: you're going to get passed by the by Notre Dame
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  Speaker 7: and or Miami who didn't play. And I actually agree
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  Speaker 7: with that, but I think the committee has a hard
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  Speaker 7: time ignoring it when it's not a close result. And
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  Speaker 7: so you know, the way to insulate that a bit,
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  Speaker 7: little bit would be, like you said, just move Notre
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  Speaker 7: Dame back ahead of Alabama to keep Alabama in between
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  Speaker 7: Notre Dame and Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I mean, we're all talking hypotheticals here,
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  Speaker 1: but that would work it out. So I mean along
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  Speaker 1: those lines, and I just I have to think the
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  Speaker 1: same thing that if we're talking about you know, one
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  Speaker 1: through nine, and again one through nine, Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Texas, Tech, Oregon, Ole,
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  Speaker 1: miss Texas, A and m Oklahoma, Alabama. That's one through
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  Speaker 1: nine in your mind, and the minds of most those
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  Speaker 1: nine teams are safe, right they're in the College football playoff.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I believe so, because they haven't shown no indication
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  Speaker 7: that they're going to just you know, blow the thing
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  Speaker 7: up and look at it again. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 7: Oklahoma should be getting a second look. I think they
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: their offense has just gotten worse and worse, and some
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: of the teams they beat, you know, as of last week,
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  Speaker 7: I was sa, their resume is just too good to
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  Speaker 7: leave out. Well, they beat Tennessee, a team that sell
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  Speaker 7: out of the top twenty five. This week they beat
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  Speaker 7: Missouri I think has been out of the top twenty
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  Speaker 7: five for two weeks. They do have a great win
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  Speaker 7: at Alabama, obviously that was a big one. They lost
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  Speaker 7: a home to All miss But the committee didn't move them,
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  Speaker 7: and so I don't know why they would suddenly drop
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  Speaker 7: them three spots without playing.
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  Speaker 1: So there is a path for Miami and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: how that plays out, if you know.
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  Speaker 2: And less like that.
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  Speaker 1: I just I think that that buffer that Ralph brought
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  Speaker 1: up and then you just brought up again as well.
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  Speaker 1: I just I think that buffers are out. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's the reluctance they want that this is the absolute reluctance.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna do it. Why wouldn't they do
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  Speaker 1: it already, Why wouldn't they put Miami above Notre Dame already?
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  Speaker 2: Because neither one of those teams are playing this week,
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  Speaker 2: so nothing changes.
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  Speaker 7: They've maintained all along that I mean right now, bi
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  Speaker 7: use in between them, and so to flip Miami and
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  Speaker 7: Notre Dame now, right, they would be saying, well, we thought,
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  Speaker 7: we think, you know, as of last week, we think
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  Speaker 7: BYU is better than Miami, But all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to change our mind on that just to
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  Speaker 7: honor this head to head result. I'm not saying it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: right by the way, right right, I think I think
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  Speaker 7: they don't want to do that to BYU, and especially
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  Speaker 7: since BYU it's going to have a chance to play
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  Speaker 7: its way in or not this weekend. So once they're
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  Speaker 7: out of the equation and Notre Dame and Miami are
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  Speaker 7: right next to each other, then it becomes unavoidable. In
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  Speaker 7: my mind. It happened, by the way, the very first
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: year twenty fourteen, and I realized they're not the same
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: people they were on the committee way back then. But
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: it's the same process all TCU. Baylor beat TCU Crazy
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Game sixty one to fifty eight middle of the season,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: and but once Baylor lost, TCU went ahead of them
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  Speaker 7: and just stayed there week after week. People would be like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: I don't understand the head to head only in the
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: very last ranking after they had played the same round
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  Speaker 7: robin schedule, so played all the same Big twelve teams,
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  Speaker 7: and I think I had a non conference one in
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: common too. Then they flipped them. So we do have
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  Speaker 7: a precedent for this.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Stuart Matdelphi the Athletic also the audible podcast. All right,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: let me the other one that kind of I'm curious about.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Let's just say this and you understand this better than
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: most of us would cover the sport. Intimately, there's going
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to be fallout one way or the other. Whether Miami
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: is passed over or Notre Dame is passed over, there's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: going to be fallout Miami, the ACC JE and Phillips,
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  Speaker 1: our commissioner.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to face some heat.
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  Speaker 1: As it is, they could be left out entirely, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ACC and the College Football Playoff. I feel like that's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: still unlikely because Duke would have to win and then
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: we'd have that little gong show happening. But Stuart, what
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: kind of fallout would happen if Notre Dame being ranked
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  Speaker 1: inside forever that the top you know, the top what
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  Speaker 1: it is, the top ten? If Notre Dame were to
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  Speaker 1: get left out, sitting there at number ten in the
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  Speaker 1: second to last college football playoff rankings, if Notre Dame
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: were to get left out, how much juice does Notre
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Dame have and what would be a fallout from that?
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  Speaker 7: I don't get the suns. There's much sympathy out there
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  Speaker 7: for Notre Dame if they mist I personally think they're
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: capable of reaching the national title game. I think they're
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: if you were ranking by the eye test, right, they'd
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  Speaker 7: be in my probably like number five or six for me.
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  Speaker 7: But it's hard to say they have a great resume
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: right when you're talking what's your best win? A nine
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: to three usc T, what's your next best win tick?
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  Speaker 7: The one that's going to just blow the whole system
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: up is if Alabama loses the SEC title game and
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  Speaker 7: falls out of the playoffs, Greg Thankee, we'll go balistic.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: There will be calls to end the SEC championship game,
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: or there will be calls to put some parameters on
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  Speaker 7: the playoff rankings where that can't happen. I've been saying
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: it a lot this week, but college football, like to
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  Speaker 7: college football spends a lot of time trying to correct
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: the controversies from the year before going back to the
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  Speaker 7: BCS because you cannot forecast, like there's always going to
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: be a different scenario and something happens, everybody gets ticked off,
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  Speaker 7: and so they they try to come up with something
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  Speaker 7: to correct it, and in doing so, cause there to
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: be some other controversy in the next year.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mendel joining us here on the Compubent Hotline weekly
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Visit the Athletic and the Audible podcast. Yeah, that would
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: be something else if that were to happen, And you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have to ask yourself. I guess the hard thing I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: find was the steward is you know it's a very
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: sub It's still subjective. You know, like there's still a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: subjective nature to this. You know everything we're talking about
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: is subjective. Well, the committee will move this team there,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there'll be a buffer there, there won't be a buffer there,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: then they finally go ahead to head. It is still subjective?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Is this because someone's going to be pissed off? Like,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: come selection Sunday, someone is going to be upset. Whether
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that team is named Alabama, Notre Dame, Miami, sec acc
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: whoever it is, someone's going to be upset, maybe more
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: than one.
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  Speaker 2: Of the ones I just mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Is is this the impetus then to get this from
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  Speaker 1: a twelve to sixteen team playoff?
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  Speaker 7: Well, this season is a good argument for a sixteen
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  Speaker 7: team playoff. Last year was not. We barely could find
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: twelve capable teams to feel that you put it in,
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Like I didn't feel great about Indiana and SMU being
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: in there, especially Indiana who hadn't had any big winsight
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: a terrible schedule, but there was no There was nobody
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: else that You're like, well, this team should definitely be
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  Speaker 7: in and I think you're seeing a very chalky season,
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: where like I don't. I think the four teams that
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: right now that would be on the out Uius had
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: a great season, They have a very strong resume. There's
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: just not room for them, right Miami. We talked about
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: you're going to hear a lot of outcry about Texas,
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I think from the SEC because they played Ohio State
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: and got an extra loss by way, so they why
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: should we Why should we schedule a game like that right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: and then poor Vandy best season in school history ten
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: and two any other year ten and two sec team
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  Speaker 7: you're in and they're not particularly close because of this
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: the unbalanced schedule. So if you had a sixteen team playoff,
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: those four teams would be in, but I would just
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: cost people. That's that's not the norm. This is not
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: how most seasons are going to play out. If anything,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: If anything, I think it'll be more often like last year.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's uh.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: B Yu, by the way, has already had a big
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: win this week with Klonie Satake staying. We sold some
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the church, sold some crumbled cookies and found the money
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and the ties I think I think the ties to Honestly,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I say that half half tongue in cheek, having worked
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in that market for a number of years and covered
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: by you for a number of years.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: At the end of the the uh well, I was
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: there for the Gary Crochten era. That was a lot
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of fun.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: But Lavelle Edwards as well, the tie to the church
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: are strong, and frankly, you know, not being a big
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: b Yu fan ever, but I'm happy for b Yu.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that Satake is staying a big win for them.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Already this week. But that leads us to Pennsta.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: Can I ask you and just a quick question, Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: how you heard of crumble cookies before this story happened.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have them here, We have them here. Yeah yeah, okay, Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I feel gone because I've never had a Crumble cookies
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: and all of a sudden it was just I mean,
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: James Franklin his trolling Penn State by having Crumble cookies
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: at Virginia Tech signing day ceremony.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So good, so good. By the way, Yeah, that was awesome.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I did that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: I think I gotta I think I gotta go check
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: it out because apparently who knew crumble cookies was funding
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: BYU football.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Well, Stuart, we can also bring this up. It's a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: whole different discussion. I'm not sure if it's even a cookie.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: They feel like many cakes to me. They're very thick
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and chewy and cakey. But they're fantastic. They're not great
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: for your health, but this is the time of the year,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in the in the holiday months, you don't worry about
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: they're fantastic. But yeah, it's an LDS owned company, and uh,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: there be that Marriott Hotels the stock they hold in
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Coca Cola, especially the non caffeinated version.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: They found the money, but I think that I think
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the ties to is Alma.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Monitored, the ties to the church, feeling comfortable, feeling comfortable
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: recruiting that athlete to that school. Frankly, it's an incredible setting.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been there, it's you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, and in the Big Twelve, I mean
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's and you go to Penn State, man, you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: win ten or eleven games, you're it's not good enough.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And so where are they now with the coaching search,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: because it just feels like they're they're kind of left
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: in no man's land, and that's one of the top
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: programs in the country.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: I think they're about to like post that job on
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: indeed dot com and see if maybe there's some candidates
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: who might say yes. I don't I don't honestly know
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: why this has played out the way it did. How
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: you fired James Franklin so early in the process, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: yet you're at this stage of the game and you
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: still don't have a coach, and by all indications, I mean,
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: at least two people have turned them down. Jeff Brahm
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: is now saying he's not leaving Louisville. I don't just
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: don't know if he actually was in consideration attend State.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: I knew know they interviewed Brian dave All. The fact
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: that they haven't actually gone ahead and hired him tells
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: me they've got eyes on somebody else. Matt Campbell at
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: Iowa State seems like a possibility. But I think the
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: fans are pretty frustrated, you know they But this is
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: a perfect example though, right of what I've said at
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: the time, it's always easier to fire the coach than
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: to hire the next one. Florida. You know, those fans
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: spent two years begging them to fire Villa in Apier,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: and they end up with John summerl who's a good coach.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: But they the two lane coach. But they are, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: beside themselves because they had their hopes uff for a lane.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Kift's uh, let's let Stuart Mandel put a bow on
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: on the lane kiff and saga from the fact that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: he's not coaching in the playoffs to the fact that
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he strung this out forever. The lane train is officially
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge. Somebody comes to you and ten to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: fifteen years from now goes Stuart. What you covered the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: crazy Lane Kiffin from ole Miss to LSU story, How
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: would you sum it up?
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: Maddening? I found the whole thing maddening, both in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: fact that the way Lane Kiffen handled it, but also
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: the way we saw some prominent ESPN analysts tried to
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: basically pressure ole Miss until letting him coach in the playoffs.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: Ole Miss was never going to let him coach in
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: the playoffs. That had been communicated to him, probably from
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: the time at least from the time his family went
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: on those secret flights to visit Florida and LSU. But
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: the reason he kept dragging out if he just kept thinking,
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: you know, I'm sure Jimmy Sexton had a lot to
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: do with this, that they could convince them that, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: you don't want to do this till the players in
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: the players best interest, you know, for them to achieve
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: what they want to achieve, you know, let me coach them.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: And you just can't. And the reason you can is
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: what we're seeing now. You've got you know, he's got you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: We've got ole Miss players. Now, I mean, first the fans,
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: you know, foot him, but like the players are tweeting
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: out that he lied to them, and you know they
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: didn't actually want him to come back. So I just
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: can you imagine if they had given in and you
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: get to that game three weeks from now, three weeks
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: of hurt feelings, they would boot him like mad when
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: he comes to the leadst players out of the field.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: So I give a lot of credit to their ad
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Keith Carter, for first standing firm. But also, look, I
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: don't know, if I don't know, if you know, the
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: promoting the defensive coriner is the best thing forever, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: it was the best thing for this playoff run because
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: now you have stability and it's not like this story
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: continues to hover over you. Who's going to be the
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: next coach?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I've watched this happen in my
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: school a bunch of times. Obviously not in the college
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Football playoff, But you know, Mike Price wanted to coach
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl back in two thousand and two before
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: going to Alabama. Shortest stint as that was, and there
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: were a lot of people boosters people around that wanted
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: no part of that. But he was going to the SEC.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He wasn't going to Oregon or stam for cal or USC.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: He was going to the SEC and in the end
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he coached the team. I don't think he coached it well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I will always go to my grave thinking.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: That I was at that game. I got that game.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: I remember I was down on the field in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: corner when he ran off and they were watching it
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: on Trader or Trader it was.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It was. There was a lot of emotions too. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that's a guy that took our school.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: To the Rose Bowl twice, you know, for the first
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: time in sixty seven years, and but people didn't like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you're gone, You're gone.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And but that was a tough one. You know.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I've I've watched a defensive coordinator, Bill Doba get get hired, promoted.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: He was a Coach of the Year in the Pac
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: twelve and then some things happened personally with his wife
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that kind of sent that one sideways. But I think
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: DoBeS was a good coach. He was the right higher
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at the time. Dickert was probably the right higher at
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the time when Crazy Rolovic got turfed. But you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and then Dickert now has like eighteen different contract extensions
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: coming his way, so good for him. This is this,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: but those are all different going to a different school. Like,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Dickert mailed it in last year, the last
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: three weeks. That's my problem with him. Kiffin didn't mail
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it in it all miss obviously.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: I think at the playoffs, did you guys watch crazy
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: Rolovich leak out of the to the outset get into
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: the ACC Championship?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, old Rollo man, Rollos.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He's a treat.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll be on the staff with Tosh lab
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Boy and they can all hang out together. Tosh is
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: famous here for his cash and the coffee cups when
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: he was coaching at Washington. Anyway, we move on the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: let me ask the final thing for you, Steward, is
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this the when we look at college football now? Like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: what's the solution to avoid the Lane Kiffin situation in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the future in terms of you know, as Rick Patino
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: had pointed out, uh, and it's overly simplistic, but it's true.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, I can't imagine leaving a team this number
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: one seed in March madness to coach another team, Like,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: what's the solution is or a solution.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Not an easy solution If I'm the sec because anytime
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: you talk about some sort of national coordination of hey,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: you know, who are to say, Hey, NCAA, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: make a rule that the coaches can't change jobs during
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: the season, somebody will see them and they'll probably lose. Right,
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: they're not going to do that. But if I'm the
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: SEC who is supposed to treat all the schools equally
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: and protect all their interests, I don't want this to
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: happen again. I would if I'm the SEC, I make
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: a rule that says you can't coach coaches within the
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: conference from our other schools. From what I've asked people,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: that would probably stand up better because it's you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: you're not You're not restricting every coach in the country.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: But yeah, it's that's the only way. Because the people
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: who complain about the calendar and the calendar being the
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: way it is, you know you've heard us say this
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: on the podcast. The coaches are the biggest drivers of
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: the calendar. They the calendar is set around what they
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: recommend and what they and they're the ones who wanted
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: an early signing day because they were sick of having
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: to babysit their commitments all the way into February, making
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: sure they didn't flip. The coaches wanted at the portal
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: to be in the winter and not the spring, so
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: they could have their roster offset for the start of
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: spring practice. And then they'll see people turn around and say, well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: what lank if it's supposed to do the calendar so
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: screwed up?
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: So you know that's that's going to have to come from.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: That's not going to come from changing the calendar. It's
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: going to have to come from putting some restrictions on
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: coach movements.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to discuss this further. This
• 31:39
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• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Next week we'll talk about the college football playoff. But
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I've got some things I want to throw at you
• 31:45
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• 31:48
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• 31:49
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• 31:55
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  Speaker 7: Step the audible it's on seemingly every day right now,
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• 32:05
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Well, check that out. Can't wait.
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• 34:45
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• 34:51
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• 34:55
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• 34:58
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  Speaker 6: That is my favorite team it is.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I knew it would be uh Sirens and Torrent tonight
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock at Climate Pledge Arena.
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  Speaker 2: So that's game two.
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  Speaker 1: They have the of course, record setting crowd in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: game one, which was on Black Friday last week, and
• 35:14
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• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Arena looking for their first win of the year. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: believe right. They lost in overtime, you believe so?
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost in overtime in Vancouver and then I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: got shut out.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the home opener. It's kind of a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: bad two day stretch.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: For pro hockey and Seattle on front of the torn
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: gets shut out, the crack and gets shut out.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Some of these score a goal there at the home team.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: So if Hillary Knight though, they should be able to.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: You would think, yeah, yeah, you would think with the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: captain of Team America USA.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: Oh how about that news by the way, the whole
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: rank situation. Oh we should get to that just real quick.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Boy, the Olympics
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: can screw things up.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: It is feefal like IOC is not good.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Not just corrupt, no, not just corrupt.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Competent, yeah, incompetent.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Apparently the ice hockey rink in Italy is not up
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to normal standards. Not only is it not an Olympic
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: sized sheet, which is bigger than a normal like if
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you've see an NHL rink in every NHL arena, Hell,
• 36:28
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• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a practice rank at kCi yep, there are two hundred
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: feet long and eighty five feet wide two eighty five
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: rus Wilson Russell Wilson loves that eighty five the exact
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: specifications fifty three and third apparently and usually Olympic size.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I think it is one hundred feet wide. I think
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it's extra fifteen feet something like that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Nevertheless, not only is it not Olympic size, it's not
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: even two hundred by eighty five feet this rink for
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the ice hockey Again, Milan.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Is get it to me.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: Matt Larkin asked uh the NHL Deputy commissioner Bill Daily,
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: what's the actual percentage that NHLers don't go to the Olympics,
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: And his response was, depends on the percentage you want
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: to place on the possibility the rink doesn't get completed.
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: If there's no rink completed, there's no NHL players going
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: to the Olympics.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, God, that would be gross. Yeah in the Winter Olympics,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: no hockey. Okay, well, no NHL players.
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: But this is like, this was the whole thing about
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: this Olympics that they've been hyping up for two three years.
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: It's like, all right, we're gonna let them go. It's
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: the best on best, right, all the success from the
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: four nations face off last year, and now it all
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: go down the drain.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is is that you know, we've gone
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: what the last two Olympics without NHL players.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe yes, And.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: It's it's if the NHL will, if the NHL players
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: are there, it's a marquee event.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: Fields awesome.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It's probably the number one event in the Olympics.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: Is and that's just not from hockey fans, that's anyone.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: It's just because unlike you know, like basketball in the.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Olympics, it I mean, it's Team USA who they're going
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to beat for the gold medal? Right, that's what it
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: is basically almost every year. Yeah, soccer, it's not even
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a best on best because it's is it you twenty four?
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's there's a weird requirements.
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: You can allow like I think two or three senior
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: players to come, but the rest of it's U twenty three.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Like it's it's weird because it's yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's younger players. It's not the best in the world.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It's not women's Women's Olympic soccer is the best. It's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the best, but really there's four countries that can compete, right, Japan, US,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Canada and.
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: Sweden, Sweden, Germany a little bit. But yeah, it's that
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: Women's Olympic hockey. It's Team USA and Team Canada and
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: nobody else.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: This is like, it's gonna be ideal. I mean it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. US and Canada the two favorites, but
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Finland's going to be good, Sweden's gonna be Chucky is
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: going to be good.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah. If they screw this up, oh lord,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it's just been brutal.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, that's the news there, So Sirens and
• 39:10
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  Speaker 1: And sitting here at the house at Holme Red built
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  Speaker 8: So oh no, you you and I remember when they
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  Speaker 1: Yep, I remember standing out of the mud when you
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  Speaker 2: Was it like?
• 41:37
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• 41:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I know that Paul mister Allen owned
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And remember they used to make the big posts for
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  Speaker 2: That's what it was. That's what was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And so the land, the land we had to
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  Speaker 5: Oh there's all.
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: There's a long story to it. But it really what
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• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of that today. I walked out and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: watched the first bit of practice during a commercial break,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and even though it was cool, it was cold, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: kind of the little wind blowing off the off Lake Washington.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, if you're a player, you can't you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: can't go wrong, right, you're just looking out there. It's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a it's a heck of a view. Well better than
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of places around the country, NFL facilities, that's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: No question about that. Well you remember where.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: We were, oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: Remember the tenth Sometimes it would blow down if it
• 42:33
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• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the borderline bubble thing that you guys had when
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: flayed out there for the battle.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Yes, anyway, I was.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Interested they were, so they practiced outside today.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I was kind of curious, when did you because you
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: had the bubble out there and then you had, you know, here,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you had the indoor part. When did you want to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: practice inside like on turf as opposed to grass outside.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, usually if the field was not so hot,
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: you know, if that if I changed something for you
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: as far as your preparation. But if the field was good,
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: going out there in the little wind and a little
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: cold weather, that wasn't bad. But I'd go back to
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: when I was in Green Bay and for us, all
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: those guys who are coaches ahead of me practiced in
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: the snow and the ice outside. It was good for you. Well,
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: I went in there and gee many Christmas said, Well, well,
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: I said, we're going inside. Well that's not how I
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: used to do it. Well, we I want to get
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: a practice in. I want people slipping it. We're not
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: ice skating out here, you know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Well's that's why I bring it up, because there's isn't
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: there the balance between like getting your work done. That's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the most important thing, right, is getting your work. Then
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I try to tough it out.
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And you got to get
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: used to the elements and what I call the team.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: I said, look, we're going to go inside, and they
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: just went I almost got a standing ovation, but then
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: I said, then you will have to whatever happened Sunday,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: we'll deal with it Sunday. But I want a good
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: practice here.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think, man, I'll say I last time
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I was in Green Bay would have been it was
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a January of twenty nineteen. See X were playing that
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: playoff game there and and we we got there a
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: few days early. We're doing live shots out in the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: parking lot and it's the parking lot that kind of
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: faces the Packers facility. I don't know what and what
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: is facing, but you know what I'm talking about there. Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and we at the end of the parking lot, a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: nice little shot of Lambeau Field behind us, and oh, Mike,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the cold it was. I mean it was we kept
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: we jump out, do a shot, jump back in the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: car for an hour and wait for.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: The next one.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I mean because the wind was blown, Like you don't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: really feel the wind inside Lambeau, but the wind blown
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: through that parking lot.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: It was no thank you hey, And I was the
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: coldest person inside the stadium on game day, I froze,
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: Oh it was cold. But that's why I sent you
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: the Italian restaurant.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: That's an Appleton and it's fantastic, Absolutely fantastic. One of
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: my favorite road stops along the ways. Mike Olgerd joins
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: us here on the VCON Pulping Hotline is weekly visit.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: A couple of things I was listening to Mike mcdo,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I'll speak toda. A couple things jumped out. I'm going
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to get to those because they're more defensive things in
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: a second. First of all, let's let's suck Sam Darnold.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: There's been you know, if you look at kind of
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: his game to game there there, he hasn't put up
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the big numbers the last couple of weeks, and there's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: been things along those ways. But what do you seeing
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: from Sam and maybe more specifically the defense or the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: offense as a whole right now?
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think I just think I would caution
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: everybody just take a breath. You know, Sam's going to
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: be okay, He's played well, he's gotten you know, there
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: are a couple of things, of course, you know, with
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: interceptions and that have taken place. But I think there.
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: You know, he's he's a pro, and he's going to
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: correct that. And so I don't think people have to
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: be too worried. Having said that, you go against the defense.
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: And I thought Minnesota, as bad as their offense was,
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: I thought their defense really was pretty good in the beginning,
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: really pretty good in that game, and then all of
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: a sudden they got away from him. But they have to,
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: you know, he the offensive line, we got to prevent
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: him him from getting pressured so much, you know. And
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: sometimes I watch some stuff and they guys are pulling
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: it up front and they're they're just missing, and so
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: that has to be corrected. And it wouldn't surprise me
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: if there was some changes, little changes up front. But
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: that's that's the one thing that can help your quarterback
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: because if he's getting hit a lot, that's in his mind.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: I don't care who you are, you get hit a lot,
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: that's in your mind, and so he's got to overcome that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Rashid Shihed, actually before we go to that, we'll go
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: back to that what you said in for a second.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Would you consider this late in the season making a
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: change on the offensive line maybe specific you know, if
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and when we see Jalensendell back on the lineup at center.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: He also played a lot of guard. I feel like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: oh the Timmy's played. Okay, maybe I'm wrong, but would
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you think about maybe sliding Sundell over to the right
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: guard position or would you let Christian Hayes played some snaps?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I think he had twenty one snaps on Sunday at
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that right guard position. He started the year on the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: injured list, But would you consider making it? It feels
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like guard is the position of need right now?
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Right there. That's that They're a little inconsistent there,
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: And based on what I know about Mike and how
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: he approaches things, it would not surprise me, you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: if they did they tinkered with that just a little bit,
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: because you know, look, everyone's trying real hard, but sometimes
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: if it's not working, you've got to figure out how
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: we're going to do this. How are we going to
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: help help him be the quarterback he can be get
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: the running game going. The running game actually looked pretty
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: good on Sunday, But the quarterback's going to be the
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: guy that gets you there. And so it wouldn't surprise
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: me at all. And if they if they made some
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: changes up there.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Michael, I'm joining us.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: He was asked McDonald's asked about Rashid Shiheat who you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: they obviously brought in the trade with New Orleans. He's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: played four games for Seattle. In those four games, he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: has four catches for thirty seven yards. The long was
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: twenty one yards along the way. He's also they've used
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: him in the running back or kind of out of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the backfield a couple of times. He's got five carries
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: for thirty six yards as well.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: So he's got a.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Couple carries and there he had one ten yard game.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, we've seen his explosiveness. Maybe in the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: return game. I think we could say that we've seen
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: a couple decent returns in the platinate kickoff returns along
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the way. But as far as the offense for a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: receiver coming in, even if he's familiar, Mike with the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: terminology or the offense, is it fair to say there
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: was going to be a little bit of a learning
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: curve for Rashidi he or should we expect more production
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: out of him at this point?
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: No, I think it's fair to say. I mean, everyone
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: coaches that position differently, every team. You know, it's I
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: would precision at the wide receiver position. They're not just
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: running around, you know. I sound get run down there
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: and get open. There are certain things that are taught
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: to receivers and every team might do it a little differently,
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: and so he has to come in and learn that,
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: you know. And he's got a great speed. I mean,
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: he is a threat. But Horton, you know, was doing
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: a great job before he got hurt. Now I expect
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: this guy to pick up the slack and and along
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: those lines. Though you know Sam's numbers, they're not they
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: didn't have the ball a lot, you know. It's it's
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: just that they were they were not great on third
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: downs and against Minnesota, and they only threw for one
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: hundred I forget how many yards, forty yards or something, right,
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: And so if you're the third receiver, which he is,
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: you might not see the ball that much. But as
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: far as talent and as far as putting a little
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: fear into the opponent's defense, you know, if they can
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: get him the ball, uh, then then they're going to
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: be much more effective.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this a lot though.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, now we're talking about Rashid shi He Before that
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Tory Horton. Cooper Cup
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: has had a fairly quiet year, but we know what
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Cooper hut cups all about. It feels like if there's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a go to spot, they'll, you know, third and three,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to throw it him for five yards.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: He knows exactly what to do. You get what you
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: get out of Cooper. Uh.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: But whether be Shahid or Horton, I think the number
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: is around forty seven percent of the Seahawks offensive productions
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: coming right now from JSN. Now, we saw him not
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: put up big numbers for the first time this year
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: against Minnesota the other day.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I guess with the defense they didn't need it.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: But you know, is it sustainable to just keep leaning
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: on number eleven game in and game out?
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't you know what he is? He is really
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: a great player, and I've been talking all and that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: If I was going against him, then you talk to
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: your defensive guys that go, Okay, if we're going to
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: stop somebody, this is the guy we're going to try
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: and stop, and someone else is gonna beat us if
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: that's the way it happens. You know, Bill Belichick was
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: famous for that taking away your number one guy, right,
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: and then the rest of the defense is just going
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: to play and we'll see what happens. And I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: it's really important, and so is it sustainable? I'm not,
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: I don't, you know, I'd like to see more of it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: The defense is, oh good, you don't have to see
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: a lot more. But spreading the ball around, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: cuts the good receiver, get him the ball a little bit.
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: The tight ends seem to be getting more.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Barner's played well, Barnes taking a big ya, he.
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: Really has, and so but I think you're going to
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: see more and more people taking trying to take Jim
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: out of the game or at least limit his productivity.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: And that should that works pretty well, you know for that.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: The other team's.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Defense, yeah, it's it's listen there, it's hard to shoot
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: holes anything they're doing right now with the record right there, right,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: they're not in three. But I think you know, you
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: see games like last week, they're a little frustrating. Offensively,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: You're like, like, let's let's let's get it going. I mean,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: luckily the kicker has been really good lately. But you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the threes not what you want. You want six is
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: not threes is? Don James used to famously say, right,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: so you don't know you want to see you want
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to see those along the way, Mike Cobrad joining us
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: right now. The Yeah, I just I'm just curious, like
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the whole running game thing, that Bradford thing, I mean,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: do you put a Christian Haynes in there?
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Is that? Is it just him? You know? Right?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: One offensive weak point on the way, if you have
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: one clearing weakness on the offensive line, that one fifth
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: of the offense, that could that could destroy the whole thing,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: can't it?
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah? I can't. And well can I make things a
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: lot harder? And uh, you know you saw it a
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: little bit in the game. I thought I saw it
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: on the film. They were running a pass play and
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: or or and and the right guard pulled to the
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: left was supposed to hit the rushing defensive end. And
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: this just was looking someplace else, you know, And remember
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: the play and and and Sam got hit and may
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: he may have fumbled in that play. But you can't
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: that you know, you go in in the me, this
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: can't happen. This can't happen. So let's fix this. How
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: do we fix it? If we can't fix it, then
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: I'm going to fix it another way, and that's by
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: making some changes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Mike.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I had Nick emon Worri came in and we had
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: an interview with him. Today ran in the one o'clock
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: hour the show Fun guy to talk to you, like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: really fun guy. It's a really engaging young man. Really
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: fun to talk to boy. He really he had this
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: attitude and it was, you know, he's smiling. I asked
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: him about, you know, like being compared to Kyle Hamilton
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and Cam Chancellor, and he's like, yeah, he goes, it's great,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: he goes, I'm a different player than then. He's probably
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: more like Kyle Hamilton than he is Cam, even though
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the body types are really similar along the way.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: But I love the attitude.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: The thing I've liked about him, And I know you
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: guys talked about this on The Money Money Quarterback Show
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a few times. It really truly feels because I introduced
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: him as I think I introduced him to something along
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the lines of Seahawk rookie defensive back, nickelback, linebacker, safety,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: except you know, right, like because he's playing all these positions.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: But I think, don't you got to give credit to
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the defensive staff. I mean, they're finding a way to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: use this guy, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't really fit in a box. And those
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: types of unique players sometimes coaches can find a spot.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they try to fit this the square pigging the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: round hole, and in this case, it feels like it's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the other way around. They've done a really nice job
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of utilizing his unique body type and talents.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: I think you have to get You have to give
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: Mic and the staff a lot of credit for the
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: defense because they do a lot. They're doing a lot
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: of different things. It's not like they're calling, you know, uh,
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: three man front, four man front cover three. They're doing
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: all sorts of stuff, and they're they're making it very
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: difficult for the other team's offense. And you know, give
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: him credit because that's that's hard to do. And for
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: a young guy to come in and perform like he's performed,
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: I think is a real credit to the organization. And
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: that's why, you know, and now I believe they're going
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: to get love back, aren't they? This week?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Hopefully.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: He kind of stopped short really of saying he's going
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to play, but he's getting close.
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Okay, he's getting close. And so he was.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: I thought he was the leader of that secondary and
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: really a good player for them. So if they get
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: some of the guys healthy again, then you know, but
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: they keep ubstituting people in and putting people in right
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: places for different calls and different blitzes and all sorts
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: of stuff, then that's a real credit to the to
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: the coaching staff.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I just think it's yeah, I think it's I mean,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you've talked to young coaches over the years, it feels
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like as a coach, if you're not flexible, right, if
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you're not a flexible and kind of open minded, you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: can get yourself in trouble. But I know there's probably
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: you've probably run across guys with the years, right, they say, no,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: this is the way we're gonna play. Doesn't matter what
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the you know, what what our talents are, what our
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: personnel looks like, what our what our strengths are, we're
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: gonna play. I mean, for the if he was listening,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: he'll get mad at me for being so simplistic. But
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna play a four to three and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: that's the way.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: That's the way. It's gonna be We're gonna.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Have a Mic and a Sam and a will linebacker
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and two defensive ends and two defensive tackles, and that's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: how we're gonna play. And they're all gonna look like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to look, and the way we go like
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you've probably seen coaches like that, right, and you got
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, wait a second, maybe we should switch
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: to this because we have these talents there.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I would think that's part of coaching.
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it absolutely isart of coaching, unless unless you have
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: the best players in the world playing for you. I
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: remember the New York Giants with when Lawrence Taylor and
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: Banks and all those guys Jim Burton and Harry Carson
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: and they they weren't very complicated. And if you remember
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks and the Legion of Boom, they weren't very complicated.
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: But all those guys knew that there were no mistakes
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: made right, and they were all good enough to get
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: it done without messing around with a lot of movement
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: and things like that. They weren't trying to fool you.
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: They just said we're gonna be you. You come and get us,
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: and we're going to shut you down. And so but
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: if you don't have that, if you can't do that,
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: you had better be able to adjust and recognize that
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: in yourself. That's what the coach does.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I've heard that a few times just going back that
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: those because I mean, these this defense this year, people
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: are starting to make comparisons. They're different, that the players
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: are different, the way they play is different. But there
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: was a lot of that with with those leads in
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the Boom defenses. Right, weren't they pretty basic? But they
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: just had better players and they had better attitudes than
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: everybody they were playing against.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: They were Yeah, that's that was right, I didn't you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 8: and watching them play, they were clearly you know, they
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: were a great defensive team. But they didn't mess around.
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: I mean they were in those days too, if you remember.
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: At least I felt this way that it was much
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: harder that they don't. They're calling past interference now with
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: hand checks and different things, way more way more than
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: they did with that group. That group mauled you, you know,
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: and then they I'd say, boy, they got away with
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: one there, but they didn't call the game the same
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: way as as they're doing it now. So maybe they
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: maybe that was that was part of their success, but
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: they didn't. They didn't. Yeah, they didn't mess around a lot.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't just kind of a four
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: to three, you know, with the nickel every now and
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: then and the two safeties that one would play center
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: field and in earl and where you went right and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: just uh.
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well you talk about now they talk about playing
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: nickel and dime personnel. But then some of the guys
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  Speaker 3: Player like you, know they don't know what you, know
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  Speaker 3: if the count him And nickel or DO i? Count
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  Speaker 3: Is Big nickel running? Dom like what do they? Do
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  Speaker 3: they count me in a run? Game do they not
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  Speaker 3: count me in a run? Game do they block?
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  Speaker 2: Me do they?
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  Speaker 3: Not so it's kind of giving team a hard time
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  Speaker 3: to like figure out what to do with me and
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  Speaker 3: how to attack me and like try to get around.
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  Speaker 3: Me so it just makes us a better defense at
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  Speaker 3: all when you can't really tell like who's out, there you,
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  Speaker 3: know just like how, offenses you, know they get a
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  Speaker 3: giant to like throw the ball and they all their
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  Speaker 3: tight ends can line up a receiver or.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever it's kind of like the same thing we're doing on,
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  Speaker 4: defense like you, know we're real.
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  Speaker 1: Multiple that's Nick Emon warri who was with me earlier
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  Speaker 1: today here at The Virginia Mason Athletics.
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  Speaker 2: Center, MAN i had a ton of fun talking to.
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  Speaker 2: HIM i hope you guys enjoyed the.
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  Speaker 1: Interview he was first Time i've talked to him and,
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  Speaker 1: engaging really articulate young. Man really fun to talk to.
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  Speaker 1: YOU i got one more for it and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it on This like this was my favorite when
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  Speaker 1: he talks about being playing.
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  Speaker 2: Physical you like to play. Physical you like to play
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  Speaker 2: in the, box don't.
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  Speaker 3: You, YEAH i like playing in the box, especially you,
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  Speaker 3: know it's. FUN i, know you got to attack. Guys
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  Speaker 3: you can't shy away from, smoke you, know especially in
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  Speaker 3: a perimeter. GAME i love when they try to like
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  Speaker 3: put dudes out there to block me AND i blow up,
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  Speaker 3: screens like you, KNOW i take. THAT i take that.
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  Speaker 3: PERSON i take that as a challenge when they try
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  Speaker 3: to put dudes out there to especially wide. Receiver, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: wire see you can't do, that you. KNOW i take
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  Speaker 3: that super. Personal but you, know WHENEVER i get my
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  Speaker 3: opportunities in the deep back into the, field you, know
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  Speaker 3: cat's dudes lacking and, Stuff i'll Be i'll be ready
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  Speaker 3: for that, too And i'll be looking for that. Too
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  Speaker 3: but as far as right, NOW i know just the
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  Speaker 3: Position i'm, in you, know, yet like you gotta be
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  Speaker 3: more physical down, there you, know playing with the front
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  Speaker 3: seven a little bit and different coverages and, stuff knowing
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  Speaker 3: when to shoot, gaps known when you got to take
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  Speaker 3: on the, line and know you can blow stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Up so it's been fun just doing. Everything really.
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  Speaker 1: WHAT i AND i, said the funny thing is like
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  Speaker 1: the difference between him and, say you, know he gets
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  Speaker 1: compared to Camp chance for a. LOT i get That
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  Speaker 1: cam was as serious as the day was long and.
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  Speaker 1: GOOD i, mean, Listen cam was is accommodating AND i
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  Speaker 1: mean just laid back, guy but he was. Serious and this.
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  Speaker 2: Guy had a bright smile on his face the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Time but when he was talking And andrews.
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  Speaker 1: And jess about the the you, know the wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: were getting put out to block on. Him, yeah and
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  Speaker 1: he just he took that. Personally when he says you
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  Speaker 1: can't do, that he had a look in AT i,
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  Speaker 1: like just. Pissed BUT i think it's a reflection of this.
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  Speaker 1: Defense you, KNOW i understand the comparisons to The legion
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  Speaker 1: of Boom day's defense because of the numbers and how
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  Speaker 1: dominant they are at times this year and everything. ELSE
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  Speaker 1: i mean that The Tampa bay not game, NOTWITHSTANDING i
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  Speaker 1: understand those just a very different.
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  Speaker 2: Defense you.
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  Speaker 1: KNOW i thought it was Interesting holmebrun's. Perspective and we've
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  Speaker 1: heard this. Before What seattle did back then was pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Basic they just lined up and say here's here's who we.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Are beat us and you can't because we have better.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Players this team has great, players really good. PLAYERS i
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: don't just thinking, HERE i don't want to slight. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: there's nobody on this defense that screams right, now two
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  Speaker 1: or three years into their career or ten years into their.
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  Speaker 1: Career what have you? Like surefire hall of. Famer seattle
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  Speaker 1: Had hall of. Famers Bobby wagner is A hall Of,
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  Speaker 1: Famer Richard sherman is A hall Of. Famer Earl thomas
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  Speaker 1: is a Borderline hall Of. Famer he's a finalist, again semi,
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  Speaker 1: finals so he's in the conversation to be A hall Of.
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  Speaker 1: Famer you, Know mike And cliff were Perennial Pro bowl.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Guys on the.
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  Speaker 1: Edge they had incredibly good. Players this team doesn't have
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: as maybe high end of, talent but and they played
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: differently this, schematically it's differently. Everything but they do have
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: that attitude that you want from a great. Defense and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: you heard it from the rookie right. There it's, like,
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  Speaker 1: YEAH i take offense to. That don't be doing that to.
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  Speaker 1: Me you don't throwing that stuff out at, Me LIKE
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  Speaker 1: i don't even think about doing that to me as.
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  Speaker 1: Well SO i do love that along the. Way he
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  Speaker 1: was a fun guy to talk. To love watching him.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Play he loves playing, here he loves playing in front
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: of The, twelves AND i think he's he and that
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  Speaker 1: defense one of the big reasons why The twelves have come.
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  Speaker 1: Back we're not hearing about the Lumen field fans getting
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: taken over by othersposing fans. Anymore it's it's really kind
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: of been fun to see the evolution and his he.
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  Speaker 1: Said Credit mike, McDonald As Mike holgan, said Credit mike.
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  Speaker 1: McDonald mike McDonald has done a hell of a job
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: with this football team in every, way shape and. Form,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: okay let's me Tase softy. Show they are coming up
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: in just a couple of. Minutes busy coming up for them. Today,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: yeah They're Pat, Mike, Yeah Mike florio coming up at three,
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  Speaker 1: Ten Lane lambert at three forty Five, Today The Weekly
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  Speaker 1: show with The crack and Head Coach petros at, Four
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  Speaker 1: Kevin harlan at, five And jedfish at. Six today on
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• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: his yearly visit talking about The National Signing. Day that's
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: on our show, tomorrow Plus Brandon funston.
• 1:16:42
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• 1:16:43
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