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John Nabors on Arkansas Football, Gary Stokan Talks Peach Bowl & LSU History · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in Hour number two O TB
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  Speaker 4: one oh four five ESPN Baton Rouge. And as we said,
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  Speaker 4: it is Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Texas A and m
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  Speaker 4: all here today. We just got through talking a little
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  Speaker 4: about Arkansas. Has continue that conversation. Our guy John Neighbors
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  Speaker 4: joins us to do.
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  Speaker 3: So how you doing, sir? Oh? I am rolling? How
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  Speaker 3: about you guys? Yeah? I felt that that felt authentic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, come on, and how can you not
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  Speaker 5: be excited about today?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 5: You got you got Sam Pittman and the Razorbacks and
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  Speaker 5: coming off of that six and sixth season and a
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  Speaker 5: schedule that the devil made himself for him. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be great, man, It's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So we were looking at at their depth chart and
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  Speaker 4: just you know, all all the different pieces and all
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  Speaker 4: the new pieces on offense. How long like this off
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  Speaker 4: season have you like just had to study all the
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  Speaker 4: new people that are coming in on this offense, because
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  Speaker 4: like you're on the few teams, like the only quarterback
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  Speaker 4: today is going to be Taylor Green, so that's exciting,
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  Speaker 4: but everybody else is new.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, by the EA Sports College Football video
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  Speaker 5: game came out, that's the best way I'm gonna learn
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  Speaker 5: these players' names and numbers and everything. Yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 5: it's been interesting because in most cases, if I was
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  Speaker 5: to tell you, hey, you got your offensive coordinator back
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  Speaker 5: who's really good in Bobby Petrino, and you've got Taylor
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  Speaker 5: Green who was fifth and passing last year in the
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  Speaker 5: SEC and he's returning. Those two things alone would be like, man,
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  Speaker 5: that's great. I mean not many teams can say that,
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  Speaker 5: and it's true, it is great, But that's about it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you have so many new wide receivers, you
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  Speaker 5: got new tight ends, you got new running backs, you
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  Speaker 5: got pretty much a new offensive line. So it's just
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  Speaker 5: really tough to just look at one thing about, oh,
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  Speaker 5: this is why it's going to be better. Tailoring Green
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  Speaker 5: could be great, but are the pieces around him going
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  Speaker 5: to be great or as good as what they were
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  Speaker 5: last year.
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  Speaker 3: Don't really know at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the you brought up Boby Petrino being there,
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  Speaker 2: and I always talk about you're one to two for
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback he goes for his first year starting to say,
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  Speaker 2: there's always a big jump, But same could be said
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  Speaker 2: for an offensive scheme, especially with a really good offensive
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  Speaker 2: minded coach like Patrina. So you're right, there is and
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  Speaker 2: you can bring in a lot of guys in the
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  Speaker 2: transfer portal, and if you have that offensive coordinator stability,
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  Speaker 2: you have a returning quarterback, you can make things happen.
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  Speaker 2: So what are you what have you seen intailing Green
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  Speaker 2: and how do you expect his progression within that Patrino
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  Speaker 2: offense for a second year to go this year?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I looked at the numbers, and I know every
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  Speaker 5: quarterback's different in everything, but under Petrino, quarterbacks that went
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  Speaker 5: from year one to year two under his system have
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  Speaker 5: improved dramatically every single time. We're talking about completion percentage, touchdowns,
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  Speaker 5: everything has improved upon and interceptions and turnovers has decreased.
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  Speaker 5: So historically speaking, you want to see that. But the
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  Speaker 5: one thing that Patrino loves and values over everything as
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  Speaker 5: you guys probably know, is a speed at the wide
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  Speaker 5: receiver position. You know, Cherry's writing, Joe Adams, this is
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  Speaker 5: like the Heydays and my razorback fandom growing up. But
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  Speaker 5: those guys were five eleven six feet all like there
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  Speaker 5: weren't big dudes, but once you got the ball in
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  Speaker 5: their hands, they could make plays because they had speed
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  Speaker 5: and athleticism. And last year Arkansas's wide receivers none of
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  Speaker 5: them were really recruited by Patrino, but you had big,
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  Speaker 5: tall guys, possession guys Andrew Armstrong, Isaac Teslaw and so
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  Speaker 5: now this year they've gotten gone to the speedsters. So
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  Speaker 5: Mega Blake is smel Ceci who's gotten banged up a
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  Speaker 5: little bit.
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  Speaker 3: He's heard.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see what the situation is. But Raylan sharp guys
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  Speaker 5: that are smaller but speed tracks type of athletes. So
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  Speaker 5: you know, Patrino loves that, and I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: have a plan for him.
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  Speaker 3: So that's maybe where the hope lies.
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  Speaker 5: But still in the sec you gotta have some size,
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  Speaker 5: You gotta have some guys to go over the top.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see if Taylor Green and these smaller guys will
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  Speaker 5: be able to build up that Rapport.
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  Speaker 4: And John were talking about before you hopped on, like
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  Speaker 4: the record was the record, but it wasn't like you
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  Speaker 4: didn't have big moments.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the Tennessee win was huge.
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  Speaker 4: I think the bowl game against Texas Tech was huge,
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  Speaker 4: Like to get that and create that momentum to the offseason.
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  Speaker 3: Really, Like there's some games that like the A and
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  Speaker 3: M game.
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  Speaker 4: As it always is, I mean every single time, like that,
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  Speaker 4: one play here, one play there, you win that game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean even in the games that they.
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  Speaker 4: Lost for the most part outside of Old miss I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're competitive against Texas, you're competitive against Missouri, Like, do
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  Speaker 4: you think they can get over that little hump and
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  Speaker 4: turn six wins into eight wins? Because they've got big wins,
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  Speaker 4: they've got big moments. There's something there. What's it gonna
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  Speaker 4: take to get from six to eight or even nine.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's those small things.
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  Speaker 5: As you talk about Sam Pittman and his tenure at
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  Speaker 5: Arkansas in one possession games is six and eighteen, six
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  Speaker 5: and eighteen, and you know he's been here for for
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  Speaker 5: a long time, and it just you look at I guess,
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  Speaker 5: of course he could go either way in a lot
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  Speaker 5: of these games, but it's always the games that you
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  Speaker 5: have a lead. And last year Oklahoma stays a great example.
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  Speaker 5: Arkansas was dominating that game in the beginning and that
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  Speaker 5: pick six happened. Every Razorback fan sat there and said, yep,
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  Speaker 5: we know we're losing this game because it happened against
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  Speaker 5: A and M. Many times, it's always just you get
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  Speaker 5: off to a good start, you got it going, and
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  Speaker 5: then something happens, something really detrimental happens and it falls apart,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what you know, makes Razorback fans always on
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  Speaker 5: the edge of their seat where the no weed's safe.
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  Speaker 5: They don't feel comfortable ever. But it's just a matter
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  Speaker 5: of getting those plays to not happen, getting the ball.
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  Speaker 3: To bounce your way a couple of times.
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  Speaker 5: Because even though the Tennessee win last year, which was
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  Speaker 5: the biggest win for sure, Artsas should have beaten Tennessee
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  Speaker 5: by three touchdowns, but they couldn't get The problem was
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  Speaker 5: guys red zone offense. They could not score in the
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  Speaker 5: red zone. So those are things they can work on
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  Speaker 5: make it better, but it's just it's just sometimes you
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  Speaker 5: need those intangibles to go your way.
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  Speaker 2: In these games, those types of games that really frustrate
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  Speaker 2: fan bases. Right, so when you talk about that, but
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  Speaker 2: it always seems like Sam Pipott wins the game, right,
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  Speaker 2: wins a big game. Arkansas is always a heart out.
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  Speaker 2: We can tell you that from experience. Like they're always
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  Speaker 2: a hard out and they always are going to every season,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to win some games they're either not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to I'm not I don't want to say that, but
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  Speaker 2: like they win big games against guys that are that
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  Speaker 2: are rolling. What happens this year? What could happen I
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  Speaker 2: least early on if to make Sam Pittman kind of
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  Speaker 2: start feeling a little pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they, as you guys know, tough schedule. Their first
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  Speaker 5: SEC road game is against ole Miss Week three. It's
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  Speaker 5: a night game. Not to say the Oxford's intimidating, but
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  Speaker 5: you know it's a night game.
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  Speaker 3: That right there.
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  Speaker 5: If you get blown out because ole Miss came to
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  Speaker 5: fab them last year and broke records on you offensively,
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  Speaker 5: if you get just get handed to you in that game,
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  Speaker 5: you got Memphis on the road next is suddenly you're
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  Speaker 5: starting to be like, okay, well this could spiral out quickly,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what's happened. And then you know Notre Dame
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  Speaker 5: is at home. They were in the College Football PLAYFF.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys knew that last year. So,
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  Speaker 5: but the point is is, like, you have it so
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  Speaker 5: tough in the beginning that the wheels could fall off quick.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why it sounds.
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  Speaker 5: Cliche, But you got to get off to a good
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  Speaker 5: start if you're Arkansas, if you're Sam Pittman, because fans
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  Speaker 5: are already hanging on by a thread. They already don't
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  Speaker 5: believe in them, they already wanted them gone in the second.
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  Speaker 5: In the beginning that you get housed, or you get embarrassed,
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  Speaker 5: or you look like crap, fans are going to jump
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  Speaker 5: off for a quicker fasten in a hurry, and that's
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  Speaker 5: going to really spiral out of control.
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  Speaker 3: Is the Memphis game the most important game of the season?
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  Speaker 4: Oddly enough, it just feels like it.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like Ole Miss could be the game
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  Speaker 5: to where it goes from being a great season to
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  Speaker 5: a bad season. But the Memphis game is one of
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  Speaker 5: those that, Hey, if you just want to do the
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  Speaker 5: bare minimum and get bye, you got to have that
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  Speaker 5: because you're not I mean, I'm not going to predict
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  Speaker 5: argans I was going to beat Notre Dame. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: anything can happen, but I'm not going to predict that.
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  Speaker 5: So you're talking about that and then being on the
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  Speaker 5: road at Memphis losing to a team that's not even
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  Speaker 5: a Power four team, you know, in which artists are.
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  Speaker 5: They're playing in Liberty Bowl, which they love playing in
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  Speaker 5: the Liberty Bowl. So and they're very good at it.
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  Speaker 5: So I think they're undefeated in the Liberty Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Great last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's Razorback Stadium East, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if you want to call it that, but no, it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's a crucial game and it's one that if you
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  Speaker 5: want to have a good season, you cannot lose Memphis period.
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  Speaker 4: And they beat flow State last year, so I mean
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  Speaker 4: they've done it before. Yeah, I mean a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people beat flar State last year, but Memphis won't be intimidated.
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  Speaker 2: But still Florida State, right and a little way r.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at Vegas. I think Vegas has the
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  Speaker 2: season went told at five and a half? Is that fair?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Because we're going to go through this and I'm I
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  Speaker 2: can probably find more than that, find more than that.
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  Speaker 2: You just talked about that at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: season as an ass kicker.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm loving that you could find that because
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  Speaker 5: I can't. I'm looking at the schedule. I truly I
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  Speaker 5: took at all the position groups and look, Okay, what's better,
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  Speaker 5: what's what's going to be worse, what's unknown, what's uncertain.
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  Speaker 5: But it's just you got so many games on this
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  Speaker 5: schedule and where they're placed at that it makes me
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  Speaker 5: feel like it goes back to the start.
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  Speaker 3: If you start off strong, then it'll be okay.
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  Speaker 5: But if you've dropped the old miss and say, if
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  Speaker 5: you drop to Memphis and Notre Dame, which is all
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  Speaker 5: three very possible, there's no way. I mean, there's just
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  Speaker 5: no way. It's about that first five game stretch. If
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  Speaker 5: you're three and two, which is you know, fine, then okay,
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  Speaker 5: like I could maybe see that, but two wins or less,
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  Speaker 5: it's just going to be dropping. Because I think Auburn's
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  Speaker 5: going to be improved.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how good they are going to be
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  Speaker 3: improved from a year ago.
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  Speaker 5: Mississippi State not great, but they're still feel like they
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  Speaker 5: should be better than what they were last year. And
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  Speaker 5: you know they Arkansas can't beat A and M for
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  Speaker 5: saving their life.
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  Speaker 3: It can't beat Missouri to save their life. You know.
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  Speaker 5: Luckily Arkansas gets a break and they play at eleven
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  Speaker 5: AM and Baton Rouge, so you know, maybe that'll go
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  Speaker 5: well for them. But it's just really tough for me
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  Speaker 5: to look at that schedule and say six wins, and
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  Speaker 5: if he gets six wins this year, I will be.
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  Speaker 3: Extremely impressed, really impressed.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So it doesn't sound like John has Arkansas
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  Speaker 4: as his sleeper team. It doesn't sound like that's going
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  Speaker 4: to be the pick there. I chose Missouri, okay now,
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  Speaker 4: because I feel like Missouri just continues to win games,
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  Speaker 4: and like ELI drink, which is you know, it's nine
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  Speaker 4: wins here, it's ten wins here. They just continue in
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  Speaker 4: their schedule as favorable as any SEC schedule is going
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  Speaker 4: to be as the Missouri Tigers this year. I like
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  Speaker 4: some of the pieces they brought in at running back
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  Speaker 4: and quarterback, like it might I'm not even saying like
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  Speaker 4: the product itself. I'm just saying what the record's going
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  Speaker 4: to be at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, man, I don't know what Missouri did
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  Speaker 5: to get that schedule. Arkansas fans were gonnat that. I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 5: get that you could win nine games whatever they did. Arkansas,
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  Speaker 5: Florida and Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 4: Need to figure it out because those three teams hurt
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  Speaker 4: somebody in the league office.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, like it's just they have a
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  Speaker 5: deal with the devil or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: But somebody forgot that Missouri's in the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't believe there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, its it still feels weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't like that figured out that Missouri
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  Speaker 2: is spelled with s's not z's. That's my thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can't wear jerseys and hoodies.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the games man, that's big ten stuff. Come
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  Speaker 5: on now, like you can't be doing that. But but no,
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  Speaker 5: like that's that's the game too. Where you know, Missouri
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  Speaker 5: not make an excuse. You got to play the games
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  Speaker 5: that are in front of you. But you know, people
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  Speaker 5: like Sam Pittman and Arkansas like, jeez, man, that skid try.
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  Speaker 5: I had to play against UMass whatever last year on
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  Speaker 5: the road, it'd be a lot different. But that's not
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  Speaker 5: the game that it gets played. But no, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: think Missouri does a good job of scheduling and sometimes
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  Speaker 5: that's what it's about, because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: body's going to look back and be like, yeah, your
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  Speaker 5: team went ten and too. But you know he played
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  Speaker 5: these teams or whatever. It's like, no, you went ten
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  Speaker 5: and too. That's what people care about it. That's all
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  Speaker 5: that matters, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So end of the year, end of the season, who's
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  Speaker 2: playing in the SEC Championship.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I want to be creative. I want to
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  Speaker 5: be sitting here and be like, ah, man, you know
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  Speaker 5: I could see this team, but it's got me Jordan
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  Speaker 5: and Texas right again, I don't want it to be
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  Speaker 5: I don't want it to have that. I'm really hoping
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  Speaker 5: somebody could step up because there's a lot of uncertainty
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  Speaker 5: with some of these teams and everything. But it's just
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  Speaker 5: hard to go up against those guys.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of uncertnity with with Gunner Stockton as well.
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  Speaker 2: So you you kind of believe in him. He showed
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  Speaker 2: you enough.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, all right, yes exactly, and so but I mean listening,
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  Speaker 5: you guys know this is the SEC LSU could be
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  Speaker 5: that team that steps in. You know, nus Meyer has
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  Speaker 5: an incredible year and they start rolling through it. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you could be a team that just comes out of
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  Speaker 5: nowhere like a Florida you know, just I mean that's
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  Speaker 5: what is always so much fun nowadays, at least about
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  Speaker 5: the SEC is there are some upsets. I mean Alabama
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  Speaker 5: lost it was it Oklhoman and vanderburgyber last year. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: come on, you never know what's gonna happen. But to me,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's those teams and it's just going
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  Speaker 5: to continue to be a fomo as an Arkansas fan
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  Speaker 5: just waving at everybody. It's like, all right, man, Atlanta
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  Speaker 5: must be nice that time of year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she's been before. There's someone on this list
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  Speaker 3: that have you ever been here? And that's what I
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  Speaker 3: always say.
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  Speaker 5: If it pisss me off anybody that ever says Arkansas
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  Speaker 5: you should have just gone to the Big twelve, I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: shut up, okay, because we've been to three SEC title games,
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  Speaker 5: by god, and you know what, Almoss, you've been to
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  Speaker 5: zero and you've been in Lee the entire time, right
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  Speaker 5: and Missisippi State you went to one and it was
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  Speaker 5: only because you broke the tiebregor with Arkansas be cause
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  Speaker 5: Sterner couldn't hold onto the ball against Tennessee in ninety eight,
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  Speaker 5: not that I remember that. So I'm just saying every
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  Speaker 5: Arkansas fan I could reminded daily, So that and the
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  Speaker 5: pop up foul ball, I just want to delete for
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  Speaker 5: my memory.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna bring up baseball.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's a Razorrec fan. It's a Razorrec fan.
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  Speaker 5: It's our kink man. We love being tortured. We love
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  Speaker 5: this thing. Man, It's just what we're born to do.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm a real quick story about that. I just
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  Speaker 5: want to tell us, for all your LSU fans out
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  Speaker 5: there Arkansas, the game happened, obviously, we would know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm up there in Omaha next day.
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  Speaker 5: Some LSU fans, which you guys are pretty mean sometimes
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  Speaker 5: all I'll admit.
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  Speaker 3: But this Relishue family comes in.
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  Speaker 5: They come up to me and it's a nice guy
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  Speaker 5: and he goes, hey, man, I just want you to know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, that was a great game.
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  Speaker 5: It sucks you lost to know you want to hear it,
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: but that was a great game, great baseball game.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to hear it from you.
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: It's like you can say that because you've won titles
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: in baseball, right was it?
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: Eight titles?
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: Is I mean, yeah, I'm like, if you can tell
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: me what's your least favorite national championship is, then I
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: don't want to hear you tell me. I'm like, I've
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: never had that before. And so it's just again, you
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: guys were great. It's a great game, but you know,
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: one time, we're going to have something in Arkansas.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I feel yeah all the time.
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: And John, it was it's crazy ways that that it happens.
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: For sure, we were talking about that just a plays,
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: but also like the side of the bracket. Yeah, you know,
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: just think if Arkansas and LSU or on the opposite
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: side they're going.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: To meet, Oh yeah, they're going to be for they
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: seed it. Yeah yeah, I mean I'd be all for that.
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: And but I get it's like, you know, who expected
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: Texas and Vanderbilt and all those teams to lose was
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: the way they did.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: But you know that I would have loved that.
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: It was unfortunate that happened, but uh, you know, it
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: still got to see some cool things like gage Woods
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: No hitter was really cool to see, you know, like
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, and it was a great game. But
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: just one time, man, and seeing Missippi State and Old
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: miss have titles Tennessee that ain't no baseball exist until
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: five years ago. And but our next head coach is
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: going to be Tony Vattello. So I know, I appreciate
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: them for holding on to it. But just at one
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: point in time, we're gonna have one.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: I feel it.
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: One lifetime you're gonna get one. I'm surely, because yeah,
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be. It's gonna be the day after I
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: die is when it's gonna happen. So I can't wait
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: for that.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: They'll still have one, but you just you know, yeah here,
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: but just knowing your heart, they'll have one.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I mean, really all that I want, you know,
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: I don't want to experience it as a person or anything.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: They odd say that eventually there you go.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but we'll always have big We will always
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: have big wins and games because you know, razorback fans,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: they wanted to hang a banner after you know, beating
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: certain teams and great so oh seven not to bring
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: it out, but lu I was our national champion. Yeah
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: you know we could go one to yeah yeah, apparently
• 15:02
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• 15:04
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• 15:13
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in Hour number two OTB one
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  Speaker 4: oh four five ESPN Baton Rouge. And as we said,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: it is Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Texas A and m
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: all here today. We just got through talking a little
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: about Arkansas. Has continue that conversation. Our guy John Neighbors
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: joins us to do. So, how you doing, sir?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I am rolling? How about you? Guys?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah that I felt that, that felt authentic.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that come out and how can you
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: not be excited about today? Man? You got you got
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Sam Pittman and the Razorbacks and coming off of that
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: six and sixth season and a schedule that the devil
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: made himself for him. I mean, it's it's gonna be great, man,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: So we were looking at at their depth chart and
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: just you know, all all the different pieces and all
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: the new.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Pieces on offense.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: How long like this off season have you like just
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: had to study all the new people that are coming
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: in on this offense because like you're on the few teams,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: like the only quarterback today is going to be Taylor Green,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: so that's exciting, but everybody else is new.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, by the EA Sports College Football video game
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: came out, that's the best way I'm gonna learn these
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: players names and numbers and everything. Yeah, it's been It's
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: been interesting because in most cases, if I was to
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: tell you, hey, you got your offensive coordinator back who's
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: really good in Bobby Petrino, and you've got Taylor Green
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: who was fifth and passing last year in the SEC
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: and he's returning those two things, a loan would be like, man,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: that's great. I mean, how many teams can say that?
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: And it's true, it is great, But that's about it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: You know, you have so many new wide receivers, you
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: got new tight ends, you got new running backs, you
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: got pretty much.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: A new offensive line.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: So it's just really tough to just look at one
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: thing about, Oh, this is why it's going to be better.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Tailing Green could be great, but are the pieces around
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: him going to be great or as good as what
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: they were last year?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Don't really know at this point.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the you brought up Boby Petrino being there,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and I always talk about you're one to two for
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: a quarterback he goes for his first year starting to say,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: there's always a big jump, But same could be said
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: for an offensive scheme, especially with a really good offensive
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: minded coach like Patrina. So you're right, there is and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: you can bring in a lot of guys in the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: transfer portal, and if you have that offensive coordinator stability,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you have a returning quarterback, you can make things happen.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: So what are you what have you seen in Tailing
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Green and how do you expect his progression within that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Patrino offense for a second year to go this year?
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I looked at the numbers, and I know every
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: quarterback's different in everything, but under Petrino, quarterbacks that went
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: from year one to year two under his system have
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: improved dramatically. Every single time we're talking about completion percentage, touchdowns,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: everything has improved upon, and then interceptions and turnovers has decreased,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: so historically speaking, you want to see that. But the
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: one thing that Patrino loves and values over everything, as
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: you guys probably know, is speed at.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: The wide receiver position.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: You know, Cherry's writing Joe Adams is like the Heydays
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and my razorback fandom growing up. But those guys were
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: five eleven six feet all like there weren't big dudes,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: but once you got the ball in their hands, they
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: could make plays because they had speed and athleticism. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: last year Arkansas's wide receivers none of them were really
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: recruited by Patrino, but you had big, tall guys, possession
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: guys Andrew Armstrong, Isaac Teslaw, and so now this year
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: they've gotten gone to the speedsters. So Mega Blake is
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: smel Cci, who's gotten banged up a little bit.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: He's herd. We'll see what the situation is.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: But Raylan sharp guys that are smaller but speed tracks
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: type of athletes. So you know, Patrino loves that, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have a plan for him. So
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: that's maybe where the hope lies. But still in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: sec you gotta have some size. You gotta have some
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: guys to go over the top. We'll see if Taylor
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Green and these smaller guys will be able to build
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: up that rapport and.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: John were talking about before you hopped on, Like the
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: record was the record, but it wasn't like you didn't
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: have big moments. I mean the Tennessee win was huge.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I think the bowl game against Texas Tech was huge,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Like to get that and create that momentum to the offseason. Really,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Like there's some games that like the A and M
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: game as it always is, I mean every single time,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: like that, one play here, one play there, you win
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: that game. I mean even in the games that they
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: lost for the most part outside of Old miss I
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: mean you're competitive against Texas, You're competitive against Missouri, Like,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: do you think they can get over that little hump
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: and turn six wins into eight wins? Because they've got
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: big wins, they've got big moments. There's something there. What's
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: it gonna take to get from six to eight or
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: even nine?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Well, it's those small things.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: As you talk about Sam Pittman and his tenure at
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Arkansas in one possession games is sick eighteen six and
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: eighteen and you know, he's been here for a long time,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: and it just you look at I guess, of course
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: he could go either way in a lot of these games.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: But it's always the games that you have a lead.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: And last year Oklahoma stays a great example. Arkansas was
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: dominating that game in the beginning and.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That pick six happened.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Every Razorback fan sat there and said, yep, we know
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: we're losing this game because it happened against A and M.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Many times.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: It's always just you get off to a good start,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: you got it going, and then something happens, something really
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: detrimental happens and it falls apart. And that's what you
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: know makes Razorback fans always on the edge of their
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: seat where.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: The no weed's safe. They don't feel comfortable ever.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: But it's just a matter of getting those plays to
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: not happen, getting the ball to bounce your way a
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: couple of times. Because even than the Tennessee win last year,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: which was the biggest win for sure, Artsas should have
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: beaten Tennessee by three touchdowns, but they couldn't get The
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: problem was guys red zone offense. They could not score
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: in the red zone. So those are things they can
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: work on make it better. But it's just it's just
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: sometimes you need those intangi to go your way in
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: these games and.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Those types of games that really frustrate fan bases. Right,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: so when you talk about that, but it always seems
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: like samp Pipot wins the game, right, wins a big game.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Arkansas is always a heart out. We can tell you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that from experience. Like they're always a hard out and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: they always are going to every season, they're gonna win
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: some games they're either not supposed to. I'm not I
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: don't want to say that, but like they win big
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: games against guys that are that are rolling. What happens
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: this year? What could happen I least early on if
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to make Sam Pitman kind of start feeling.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: A little pressure.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Well, they, as you guys know, tough schedule. Their first
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: SEC road game is against ole Miss Week three.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's a night game.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Not to say the Oxford's intimidating, but you know it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: a night game that right there. If you get blown
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: out because ole Miss came to fab them last year
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: and broke records on you offensively, if you get just
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: get handed to you in that game, you got Memphis
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: on the road. Next is suddenly you're starting to be like, okay,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: well this could spiral out quickly, and that's what's happened.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: And then you know Notre Dame is at home. They
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: were in the College Football PLAYFF. I don't know if
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: you guys knew that last year. So, but the point
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: is is like, you have it so tough in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: beginning that the wheels could fall off quick And that's
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: why it sounds cliche, But you got to get off
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: to a good start if your Arkansas and if you're
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Sam Pittman, because fans are already hanging on by a thread.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: They already don't believe in them, they already wanted them
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: gone in the second. In the beginning that you get housed,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: or you get embarrassed, or you look like crap, fans
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: are going to jump off four quicker fasten in a hurry,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: and that's going to really spiral out of control.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Is the Memphis game the most important game of the season?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Oddly enough, it just feels like it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like Ole Miss could be the game
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: to where it goes from being a great season to
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: a bad season. But the Memphis game is one of
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: those that. Hey, if you just want to do the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: bare minimum and get bye, you got to have that
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: because you're not I mean, I'm not going to predict Argans.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I was going to beat Notre Dame. I mean, anything
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: can happen, but I'm not going to predict that. So
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: you're talking about that and then being on the road
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: at Memphis losing to a t that's even a Power
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: four team, you know, in which Artis saw. They're playing
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: in Liberty Bowl, which they love playing in the Liberty Bowl.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: So and they're very good at it. So I think
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: they're undefeated in the Liberty Bowl. Great last year. Yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: maybe it's maybe it's Razorback Stadium East, you know, if
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: you want to call it that, But no, it is.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: It's a crucial game and it's one.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: That if you want to have a good season, you
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: cannot lose the Memphis period.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: And they beat Flar State last year, so I mean
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: they've done it before. Yeah, I mean a lot of
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: people beat Flar State last year, but still Memphis won't
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: be intimidated.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But it's still Florida State, right and a little way right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at Vegas. I think Vegas has the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: season went told at five and a half. Is that fair, like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: because we're going to go through this and I'm I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: can probably find more than that. Find more than that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: You just talked about that at the beginning of the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: season as an ass kicker.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm loving that you could find that because
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I can't. I'm looking at the schedule. I truly I
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: took at all the position groups and look, okay, what's better,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: what's what's going to be worse, what's unknown, what's uncertain.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: But it's just you got so many games on this
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: schedule and where they're placed at that it makes me
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: feel like it goes back to the start. If you
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: start off strong, then it'll be okay. But if you've
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: dropped the old miss and say, if you drop to
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Memphis and Notre Dame, which is all three very possible,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: there's no way. I mean, there's just no way. It's
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: about that first five game stretch. If you're three and two,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: which is you know, fine, then okay, like I could
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: maybe see that, but two wins or less, it's just
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: going to be dropping. Because I think Auburn's going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: be improved, I don't know how good they are going
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: to be. Improved from a year ago. Mississippi State not great,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: but they're still feel like they should be better than
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: what they were last year. And you know, they Arkansas
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: can't beat A and M for saving their life. It
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: can't beat Missouri to save their life.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Luckily Arkansas gets a break and they play at eleven
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: AM and Baton.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Rouge, so you know, maybe that'll go well for them.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: But it's just really tough for me to look at
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: that schedule and say six wins, and if he gets
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: six wins this year, I will be extremely impressed, really impressed.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: All Right, So it doesn't sound like John has Arkansas
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: as his sleep sleeper team.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like that's going to be the pick there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I chose Missouri, okay now, because I feel like Missouri
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: just continues to win games, and like ELI drink, which
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: is you know, it's nine wins here, it's ten wins here.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: They just continue in their schedule as favorable as any
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: SEC schedule is going to be. As the Missouri Tigers
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: this year, I like some of the pieces they brought
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: in at running back and quarterback, like it might I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: not even saying like the product itself. I'm just saying
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: what the record's going to be at the end of
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the season.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, man, I don't know what Missouri did
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: to get that schedule. Arkansas fans running at that. I'm like, man,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: get that you could win nine games whatever they did. Arkansas,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Florida and Oklahoma.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Need to figure it out because those three teams hurt
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: somebody in the league office.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, like it's just they have a
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: deal with the devil or something like that. I don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: understand it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: But somebody forgot that Missouri's in the SEC.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I still don't believe they're.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still still feels weird.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't like it figured out that Missouri
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is spelled with s's not z's. That's my thing.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you can't wear jerseys and hoodies and that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: it the games. Man, that's big ten stuff. Come on now,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: like you can't be doing that. But but no, like
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: that's that's the game too. Where you know, Missouri, not
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: make excuse, you got to play the game that are
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: in front of you. But you know, people like Sam
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Pittman and Arkansas, like, jeez, man, I had that skid
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: try I had to play against UMass whatever. Last year
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: on the road, it'd be a lot different, but that's
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: not the game that it gets played. But you yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I think Missouri does a good job of scheduling. And
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: sometimes that's what's about because at the end of the day,
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: nobody's gonna look back and be like, yeah, your team
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: went ten and too.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But you know he played these teams whatever. It's like, no,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: you went ten and too. That's what people care about it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: That's all that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Matters, all right. So end of the year, end of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the season, who's playing in the SEC Championship.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, I want to be creative. I want to
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: be sitting here and be like, ah, man, you know
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I could see this team, but it's got a Jordia
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: and Texas right again, I don't want it to be
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I don't want it to have that. I'm really hoping
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: somebody could step up because there's a lot of uncertainty
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: with some of these teams and everything. But it's just
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: hard to go up against those guys.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: A lot of uncertnity with Gunner Stockton as well. So
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: you you kind of believe in him. He showed you.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Enough, yes, all right, yes exactly, and so but I
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: mean listening to you guys know this as the SEC
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: LSU could be that team that steps in and you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: nus Meyer has an incredible year and they start rolling
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: through it. You know, you could be a team that
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: just comes out of nowhere like a Florida you know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Just I mean that's what is always so much fun nowadays,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: at least about the SEC is there are some upsets.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, Alabama lost it was it Oklehoman and Vandyburger
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you never know what's gonna happen.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: But to me, I feel like it's those teams and
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: it's just going to continue to be a fomo as
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: an Arkansas fan just waving at everybody.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, man, Atlanta must be nice that
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: time of year. You know, she's been before. There's some
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: on this list that have you ever been here? And
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: that's what I always say.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: If it pisses me off anybody that ever says Arkansas
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you should have just gone to the Big twelve, I'm like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: shut up, okay, because we've been to three SEC title games,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: by god, and you know what, Almoss, you've been to
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: zero and you've been in the Lee the entire time
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: right in Missisippi State. You went to one, and it
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: was only because you broke the tiebreaker with Arkansas cause
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Sterner couldn't hold onto the ball against Tennessee in ninety eight.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Not that I remember that, So I'm just saying every
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Arkansas fan, I could remind it daily. So that and
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: the pop up foul ball I just wanted to delete
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: for my memory.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: We're gonna bring up baseball with you.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Yeahs. It's a razorre as a Razorreck fan. It's our
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: kink man. We love being tortured. We love this thing. Man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: It's just what we're born to do. But I'm a
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: real quick story about that. I just want to tell
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: us for all your LSU fans out there Arkansas, the
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: game happened, obviously, we would know I'm up there in
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Omah next day.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Some LSU fans, which you guys are pretty mean sometimes
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: all I'll admit. But this Relishue family comes in, they
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: come up to me and there it's a nice guy
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: and he goes, hey, man, I just want you to know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: it's like, that was a great game. It sucks you
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: lost to know you want to hear it, but it
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: was a great game, great baseball game.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to hear it from you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: It's like you can say that because you've won titles
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: in baseball.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Was it eight titles? Is?
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I'm like, if you can tell me
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: what's your least favorite national championship is, then I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: want to hear you tell me. I'm like, I've never
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: had that before. And so it's just again, you guys
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: were great. It's a great game. But you know, one
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: time we're going to have something in Arkansas.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I feel one time. And John it was it's crazy
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: ways that that it happened.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: For sure, we were talking about that just a place,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: but also like the side of the bracket. Yeah, you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: just think if Parkinson LSU or on the opposite side, they're.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Gonna meet Oh yeah, they're gonna be for they seed it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean I'd be all for that. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: but I get it's like, you know, who expected Texas
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: and Vanderbilt and all those teams to lose the way
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: they did.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: But you know that I would have loved that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: It was unfortunate that that happened, but uh, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: it's still got to see some cool things like gage
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Wood's no hitter was really cool to see, you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: like stuff like that, and it was.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: A great game.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: But just one time, man, and seeing Missisippi State and
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Old miss have titles Tennessee that ain't no baseball existence
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: on five years ago. And but our next head coach
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: is going to be Tony Vattello. So I know, I
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: appreciate them for holding on to it. But just at
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: one point in time, we're gonna have one.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I feel it. One in the lifetime, you're gonna get one,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I'm surely, because yeah, it's gonna be.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be the day after I die is when
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: it's gonna happen.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait for that.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Uh, they'll still have one, but you just you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: yeah here, but just knowing your heart, they'll have one.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that's I mean, really all that I want,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to experience it as a
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: person or anything.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: They odd say that eventually there you go.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but we'll always have big We will always
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: have big wins and games. You know, razorback fans they
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: wanted to hang a banner after you know, beating certain
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: teams and great, so they oh seven.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Not to bring it out. But yeah, l shoe that
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: was our national championship.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know we could go one to Yeah yeah,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: apparently yours is one that goes a little further than ours.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: So uh yeah, we.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Can't beat Kentucky, can't beat Tennessee. But yeah, yeah, every
• 31:27
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• 31:29
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• 31:32
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  Speaker 3: All right to Laundra now you're just showing off chill
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• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Gary Stoken joins us now and we get a chance
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: to catch up with Gary every single year. Talk about
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: all the great things they've got going on here in Atlanta,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: for the Peach Bowl, the kickoff games that they've got
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: coming up this year.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: We will get to all of that. But I told Matt.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Before we started this segment, I was like, I know, Gary,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and I know he is going to know exactly what
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: you did in two thousand and five against the Miami Hurricanes,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: and that that was his first start. That was the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: first chance LSU fans, Gary got a chance to see
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: what this guy could be.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Well, I think you threw for two touchdowns. I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: you ran for seventy yards.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I did. Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: The last time I was sitting around you guys was
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: twenty years ago and in the Georgia Dome.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: That's right. That was a I mean, what a cool
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: moment for me personally, of course, but I mean it
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: was It was an incredible season two thousand and five.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: It was the year you know Hurricane Katrina. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: impacted so many lives in Louisiana. And like they say,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the season started with a hurricane and we ended with
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a hurricane.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: We you know what, We brought the Sugar Bowl to
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Atlanta that year. I talked with Paul hol In and
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: I said, Paul, you know, I know you can't play
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: in the super Dome. And everybody was pounding them about
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: I'll come here, come here. I said, Paul, Look, we'll
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: help you sell tickets, We'll get you office space. We'll
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: do whatever we can. It's your decision. If you want
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: to come up to Atlanta, just know we're going to
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: be here. And they wound up coming up here. We
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: got them office space, sold some tickets for him, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: and the Sugar Bowl was a great game with West
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Virginia and Georgia, and West Virginia ran them out. Yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: so that was probably West Virginia's greatest win ever other
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: than beating Pitt probably up in their backyard.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Brawl out there. Pit beat West Virginia so we could
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: go to the National Tip.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: That's exactly right, you guys, that that was a very
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: cool game. And and I've told you this before, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: like the Peach Bowl will always mean so much to
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: me because one, it was a great week, like first
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: class everything, y'all did. I mean, I'll never stop eating
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Chick fil A because it's just like we got all that,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: we like all you can ever just it was like
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: utopia eating Chick fil A whenever, as.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Much Chick fil A as he wants, and oh my.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: God, make him happy.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: That's exactly a dream scenario.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, and so I always do.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: But Matt did get you know, his first opportunity, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: we were like, you know, we're obviously friends and roommates
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: on the road, and so like to see him get
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: that opportunity. And for me, like I didn't know I
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: was gonna play running back that day, like I was
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: a starting fullback, but I didn't. And then Joe Die
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: hurts his hamstring after having a big game. We had
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: another running back hurt himself on kickoff. We had another
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: how to miss pass protection or something unless is like
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: looking in the sidelines, He's like, hester get in there,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: and I'm getting there running.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Back and they need you to protect him. And it
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: was like my first.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Time to like I played a mop up duty and
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: some different things.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But so in that game I both had a huge impact.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Well in the game, I had an opportunity to play
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: running back behind like Andrew Whitworth and this incredible offensive line, right,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: And so that game allowed me like the next spring
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: to kind of be the leader in the clubhouse for
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the starting running back position after playing fullback my first
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: two years.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I will never forget the peach ball.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: That's a great, great story. Well, I'll never forget that
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: fight afterwards. I'll think, I mean I'll tell you when
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: when who is the running who is the wide receiver?
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Dwayne Bow's mouthing off of his friends in at Miami,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: and as he takes the ball and runs by your bench, right,
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: I'm standing down in that end zone and he runs by,
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: gets in the in the tunnel, and the Miami guys
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: fall him in his buddies. And I mean, you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: obviously I'm not very big. I'm five to eleven. But
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: when you get clear on and guys with with pads
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: on and as big as they were, they're in that
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: tunnel everybody, and I'm shouting to the guy closed the
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: gate closing, and they were fighting in there.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: It was wild. Will I will never forget. It was
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: look and it didn't get too out of control, but
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: it was wild.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: But I will never forget. You've got all these, like
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: you said.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: These just large human beings, all these pads and stuff on,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: and there was a policeman in there. And when she
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: hit the taser, Yeah, she had the noise froze everybody exactly.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. I was.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I was in the middle of the field because it
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: was right after the game and I'm kind of getting interviewed.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Lin Swine somebody like that interviewed me, and all of
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a sudden, I, huh, what's the team doing? Run in
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: that direction? And I was like, huh, what's our team?
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on the field and I and yeah, No,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: when you see your teammates and their team going to
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: a tunnel like, you don't ask questions. You go figure
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: it out and we'll sort it all out later.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: At three in the morning, I'm in a hospital because
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: the one kid had gashed his head. He had had
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: five stitches concussion. So I go over to visit in
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: the hospital. I get back to the Marriotte. I think
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Miami was in the Marriotte, if I remember right, And
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: I'm walking down the hall at like three four in
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: the morning, and here comes Donna Challey, the the a
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: d there.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: They had fired Cocher that night.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they fired him that night. So that was a wild, loud, evening,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: wild game. A lot of good memories though, for sure, Well,
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: how you guys doing about right here?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, slow up here. A lot of the energy is
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: not quite.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: As you're having me up here, because you know you
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: join us every year, you know that, and you always.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Tell us about the kickoff games.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got two goods, two really good ones, two
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: intriguing ones. You've got a C C SEC and the
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: whole I want to get to Virginia Tech South Carolina.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: That's the Beamer Bowl. That's going to be you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: very very cool, great emotions. But this Syracuse Tennessee game sneaky.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: So Syracuse and fran Brown they're ready, like they're not
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: going to back down from a fight. And then Tennessee
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: with all the different changes they've had, and they made
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: the Cosotball playoff as we all know a year ago,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: and what that program's at and the expectation there that
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: one right there.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: If you don't if you don't.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Know who Syracuse is, and you're just handwaving and thinking
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it's going to be an easy win for Tennessee, that's
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: not going to be the case at all. Syracuse kept
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Miami at a playoff last year, and they might be
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: better this year than they were a year ago.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: Finished in the top twenty, had ten wins. Both teams. Obviously,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Tennessee makes the playoff, but you know, changing quarterbacks is
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: you know, we're all living in that year and now
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: with the transfer portal, yeah, it's all free agency, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: tell me about Ricky Collins, because yeah, they be the
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: starter up there.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: At ye Cus. Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: So he was a local kid, you know, from Baton Rouge,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: and he was very highly touted.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I do remember when LSU offered him.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: It was like at a seven to seven event at
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: LSU and you kind of heard the buzz like, Okay,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: hey there's this local kid. Like I know, we're recruit
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: in a, B and C from elsewhere, but you got
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: to come see him, and I'll never forget, like the
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: LSU coaching staff going to the seven on seven he
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: threw like two passes like yep, hey, you're staying to
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: talk to him, you're staying to get his commitment.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I mean it was like right there on go. Very talented,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: just happened to.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Have maybe the nation's best quarterback in front of him
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: and Garrett neus Meyer, and so he wanted to get
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: on the field, wanted to challenge himself.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's actually kind of cool. He didn't try
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to maybe stay in the region.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: He's like, I want to go to the best situation,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: and he goes up to Syracuse, New York and so great.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be a good player. He was
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: the backup for LSU last year when Nuss would you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: he went down a couple of plays. I think it
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: was old miss game like he was right there, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: so I mean he was somebody LSU really valued in quarterbacks.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: We know how it is, like if you're not playing
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: right now, you go find a spot. But he's a
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: good player and I'm excited to see him be the guy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Well, and they got in Jelly from Notre Dame. Yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: that was a late transfer.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: It was, it was it's late.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: So you wonder what that competition is going to kind
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: of be like because obviously Ricky's going to have a
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: couple of months on him.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he jo that should be good. And then Tennessee
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: with Aguilar right the trade.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: With he literally.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Who knows what he's going to bring to Tennessee. But
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: you know they've got to they got to get their
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: running back situation with Samson gone. You know, but Tennessee
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: is going to be very good this year as well.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Garry, I'm really like curious just about the not the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: business side, but how these games get scheduled. I mean,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: last year you had Clemson Georgia, You've had Top twenty five,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you have Top ten, matchups in this kickoff game. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: think the kickout game is starting in two thousand and eight, Right,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: how do those discussions go and how long before those
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: those games get scheduled? It just how do you get
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: these big teams year after year to commit to these
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: games and kind of how does that partnership work out?
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I use a philosophy. I'm an old coach,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: so I use a philosophy of rocks. You gotta have
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: guts and you know, I don't want to say it
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: on air, where you got to have right, yeah, rocks right?
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Rocks is Building relationships are Oh, you got to be opportunistic.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Uh see, you got to be create competitive and s
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: you got to be strategic. So the way I look
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: at things is I'll look at recruiting, I'll look at
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: how long a coach contract is. You know, you analyze
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: all that stuff to start with, and then just through relationships,
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: you start talking to people. John wild Hack was at
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: ESPN and we signed a lot of contracts with him,
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: TV contracts at Chick fil A Peach Bowl. So when
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: he got the job at Syracuse, he said, Gary, trying
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: to build a program, would love to come. You know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: when you can fit us in in the kickoff game.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: You know, Tennessee, we've talked to Danny White. We had
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: him when they won the national championship against Auburn and
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: our Chick fil A Peach Bowl when they.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Were a uc Yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know you got relationships. I'll tell you
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: the best one and it relates to LSU. Back to you, guys,
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: is back in two thousand. I get a call from
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Nick Saban at LSU and he says, Gary, we're eight
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: and four. The best bowl we can get to is
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: the Peach Bowl. We're trying to build a program here.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: I think it was his first or second year. You know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: we got to get it to the Peach Bowl. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: so I flied. Now first time and only time I
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: ever got a call from a coach to play in
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: our bowl game.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I fly down.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: I meet with him, I meet with Charlie Weams, who's
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: chairman of the board, and I meet with Mark Emmert,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: who was canceled. And they said, we'll.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Do it whatever we can.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: We want to get to your game. So we took
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: Georgia Tech, who was like thirteenth in the country and
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Gatzi was their quarterback, and so I fly back, and
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: my job was to pick the team. So I'd go
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: to my board and I said, we're going to take LSU. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: we don't want LSU. I said, what do you mean
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: you don't want LSU. And again, this is two thousand.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: I took the job in ninety eight. They said, we
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: had LSU in ninety six with Donardo. He wasn't very good.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: He didn't promote the game, they got beat by Clemson,
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: they didn't sell any tickets. We don't want LSU back,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: I said, well, I'm just telling you. The coach, the
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: chairman of the board, and the athletic or the president
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: said they'll do whatever we need to do. So I
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: take LSU.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I tell my board.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: I said, look, if they don't do what they said
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: they're going to do, you can fire me.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Because in my second year, I.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Said, I'm putting my job on the line.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: In the farm.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: The first day of ticket sales, they sell sixteen, four
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: and twenty one tickets. I still remember mister Gil sold
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: one thousand tickets and gave yellow shirts to all his
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: employees and said you get your asses to a land
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: and support the tigers. And so LSU came up Rohan
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Davey came in the second half, spotted Josh Boody and
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: hits Josh Reed in the back of the end zone
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: and they win twenty eight fourteen. So I go back
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: on campus as we've done every year for twenty eight years,
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: to do a good, bad and the ugly, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: to continue improvement, to find out what we need to
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: improve on. And Nick tells me, you know, Gary, every
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: kid that we were recruiting signed with us that year,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: and that was the Marcus Spears group that won the
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: championship in three so Nick felt indebted. Fast forward to eight,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: I'm putting together this kickoff game format because the BCS
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: was going to a fifth game, and Austin the Cotton
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Pole really put in strong bids. Well, Paul Julian, who's
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: good friend of ours who since passed away, talked the
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: commissioners into letting the Sugar Rows, Orange and Fiesta double host,
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: where they'd host third game and then two weeks later
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: host the National Championship on a rotational basis. And so
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: we didn't get in. So the next year, the NC
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Double A legislates a twelfth game, so I'd go on
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: my board. I'm competitive again, I said, well, if they're
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: not going to listen on the BCS in the backside
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: of the season, we're starting to BCS on the front
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: side of the season. And so I came up with
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: Alabama and Clemson. I get Clemson, who had Spiller and
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: was going to be top ten, and I go to
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Nick and I said, Nick, he was in his second year.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: He had finished seven and six. Oh yeah, Louisiana beating Louisiana.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: MUSI yeah, to get to seven and six his first year,
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: people don't forget, don't remember that. And so he said, Gary,
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: you helped me out at LU I'll help you come
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: over in this game. So he came over. They won
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: thirty four to ten. Cover Sports illustrate Alabama's back and
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: if Nick were sitting here, he tell you that's the
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  Speaker 6: run they've been on was because of this game. And
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: so the next year they come in number five, Virginia
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Tech was number seven. Frank Beemer, they beat Virginia Tech
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: and they win the national championship. So you know, that's
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: that's long story about how these things get done is relationships,
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: like most things in business, So it's even very blessed
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: to have them.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Like I know, our listeners are going to be a
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: true like, yeah, that story about two thousand that started
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: some like like you said, I mean that that led
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to the recruiting class that led O three national championship.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I started started this run that LSU is on still today.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: One of the blue bloods in college football was you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Savan being there early on. So it's a that's a
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: fascinating story.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: But about LSU. When when you guys lose in the
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: championship game of the SEC year, oh finally, and everybody
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: passes on you, Yeah, and I said, I can't pass
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: on him, so we're gonna and typically you don't want
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: to come back to Atlanta, right because you just play
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: in the SEC championship game. So I take l s
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  Speaker 6: U and that was you know, getting Miami was number ten,
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: you got, oh yeah, nine.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: I goes down to the l SU to do the
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  Speaker 6: press conference and you know, less Les grabs my arm
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: and shakes and says, you have a damn fine team
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: coming to Atlanta. Just about took my shoulder out of socket,
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: and he says, but I need to talk to you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: I said, okay, and we go back in this office.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: It was right before the press conference.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: He said, Garrett, I can't say chick fil A.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I said, what do you mean? Less?
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: He says, I have a deal with Raisin King.
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  Speaker 3: say Chick fil a, just say peachball.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, last tyfficult less, I gotta tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like I thought he was.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna send nuclear war bombs somewhere,
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: you know, or I gotta I gotta talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: We got to meet in your off in my office.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I expect you to say that. He was about to say,
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  Speaker 2: I can't bring my starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of kind of whimpy kid from Tyler, Texas.
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  Speaker 6: I knew you guys weren't going to lose that game
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  Speaker 6: when when he shook my hand and said that, you
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  Speaker 6: gotta damn fud.
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  Speaker 3: We beat Miami on the field and in the tunnel.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great there for the l Gary. It's
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  Speaker 3: always a pleasure everybody. Guys, Thanks so much, so much.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Look forward to the semi final this year, and I
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  Speaker 3: know and I'll be here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta's always Yeah, Atlanta is always on my rotation there
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  Speaker 3: So you know I'll be here.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OGB one oh four five
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  Speaker 2: I was fascinating to you had heard some of those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd heard it before. And Gary and I get
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  Speaker 4: a chance to catch up. But still that look. Just
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  Speaker 4: some LSU fans at the first time OTV listeners, maybe
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: they get a chance to hear that story. It's always
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  Speaker 4: fascinating to me and Coach Saban and him wanting to
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  Speaker 4: get LSU out in front of everybody, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: Coach Savan talks about it often. He always felt like
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: LSU was a sleeping giant. And it's not like LSU
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: hadn't had runs and uh, you know fifties and sixties
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: and the eighties and well not the nineties, but they
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: had runs in their history, right, and so it wasn't
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: but he knew l S you could be more. He
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: knew LSU could be consistently a blue blood. And that's
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: really one of you know, the signs and the times
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: you can point to that made that happen.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: So it's always a very cool story.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And again, like for you and I, the Peach Bowl
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: was the biggest moment in our careers to that point
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely the starters started like me and then that was
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  Speaker 2: the first start.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: That was your first starting, It was my first life.
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  Speaker 3: I had a couple of year out.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: A couple of good pass on North Texas that year and.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: The fourth I was probably in there with you as well,
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  Speaker 4: Mom squad that was my at that time, that was
• 52:03
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  Speaker 2: But that story to me about Nick Saban calling him that,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: just like it goes to show you that we all
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: know Nick Saban's greatest coach of all time in college
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  Speaker 2: football because of what he could do on the field
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and the teams. But it's those little things behind closed
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  Speaker 2: doors that he did to build a program, right, Like
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: that was so cerebral on the big picture. Like Gary
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: just said, I'd never had a coach call me before,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: right and try to get into a game because he
• 52:32
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• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that's just the kind of like awareness, cerebral, a big
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: picture outlook that it takes to build a program. Yeah,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: and like we saw it for over a decade nauseatingly
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: with Alabama, Like those are just the things not only
• 52:49
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• 52:54
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  Speaker 3: All Right.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up in our number three, we're gonna hopefully catch
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