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- 0:02Speaker 1: A lot of it under the metal principles of lead,
- 0:07Speaker 1: last little and the individual wats This is the show?
- 0:20Speaker 1: Oh right, everybody, welcome to your own book show on
- 0:23Speaker 1: this Thursday, May fourteenth. There's been a whal suddenly been
- 0:27Speaker 1: a whal for a news show, so uh, thanks for
- 0:32Speaker 1: joining me. I being sick, I got what is it,
- 0:37Speaker 1: the stomach flu, this stomach virus that's going around, and
- 0:41Speaker 1: it wake me out and I'm still not recovered. So
- 0:46Speaker 1: I'm a little off today, so I don't know. We'll
- 0:50Speaker 1: see how long it can last. Well, we've got a
- 0:53Speaker 1: lot of questions already, and I haven't he started the show.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I mean, Michael has been stowing up questions to ask me,
- 1:02Speaker 1: but he puts his mouth his money where his mouth is.
- 1:05Speaker 1: So I hugely appreciate the support. Michael, thank you. And
- 1:08Speaker 1: I see a bunch of others of us ask questions,
- 1:12Speaker 1: so thank you, guys. I really appreciate the support. Anyway,
- 1:14Speaker 1: I'm a little slow, so bear with me. It's it's
- 1:20Speaker 1: been a rough week. God, it's been a rough week. Anyway.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I think it's over, or it's on the beginning of
- 1:27Speaker 1: being over. So we'll see how today's show goes. And
- 1:32Speaker 1: and Yeah, a lot of stuff been happening while I've
- 1:36Speaker 1: been out, mostly the early stuff. Trump, you know, not
- 1:44Speaker 1: doing anything about Iran, over and over and over and
- 1:46Speaker 1: over again. Just repete, repete, repeat. So take my shows
- 1:49Speaker 1: by capitulation and just replay them. Maybe when he comes
- 1:53Speaker 1: back from China now he'll do something about Iran. We'll
- 1:55Speaker 1: see that's what the israelis expecting. Maybe that's what Trump
- 1:59Speaker 1: into to do. I have no idea, but but nothing
- 2:03Speaker 1: was happening. Uh. But Trump is now in China. Trump
- 2:07Speaker 1: is now in China. He's met with Hi. Uh, he
- 2:11Speaker 1: has he bought with him quite a large number of
- 2:15Speaker 1: American CEOs to cut deals to get business. I understand
- 2:21Speaker 1: that China has guaranteed to Bay I don't know, two
- 2:24Speaker 1: hundred Boeing airplanes and and Trump has agreed to in
- 2:29Speaker 1: Nvidia selling a bunch of not the most advanced ship
- 2:34Speaker 1: the second most advanced tip to China or though it's
- 2:37Speaker 1: not like China actually wants to buy them. Uh. Trump
- 2:41Speaker 1: went there with with the idea of business deals. Let's
- 2:44Speaker 1: do business deals, and let's let's grant my favorite CEOs favors.
- 2:49Speaker 1: This is corneyism, par excellence. Now every president does this.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Every trip overseas has this. With Trump, everything is is
- 2:57Speaker 1: on speed, it's it's it's great, accelerated is greatly, it's
- 3:02Speaker 1: much more bigger. But anyway, they man and Trump does
- 3:07Speaker 1: what he does best. When he meets authoritarian dictators. He
- 3:12Speaker 1: gobbles or he profusely expresses his admiration for them. Trump says,
- 3:24Speaker 1: she this is a quote direct. We're going to have
- 3:29Speaker 1: a fantastic future together. I have such a respect for China.
- 3:33Speaker 1: The job you've done. You're a great leader. It's an
- 3:37Speaker 1: honor to be with you. It's an honor to be
- 3:40Speaker 1: your friend. That's personally even gonna say, it's going into
- 3:49Speaker 1: a series of pretty tough they tell me negotiations and
- 3:52Speaker 1: pretty tricky issues and complicated stuff with the leader of China.
- 3:58Speaker 1: She's jumping uh. And you know the first thing is
- 4:02Speaker 1: I love you, bro. I just think you're fantastic. You're
- 4:05Speaker 1: you're my favorite person out there. I mean, here's the
- 4:08Speaker 1: admiration for authoritarians, which we saw in his first term
- 4:14Speaker 1: with his relationship with the dictator of North Korea and
- 4:18Speaker 1: then with Putin, and then we see again with Putin.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And I was in with Eduon, the leader of Turkey
- 4:24Speaker 1: will go over and over the well, return to that
- 4:27Speaker 1: story again because it has to do with regime change
- 4:30Speaker 1: in Iran and how we go on prevented it prevented
- 4:34Speaker 1: a certain plan. Uh, it's just, it's just it's just embarrassing.
- 4:41Speaker 1: It's embarrassing to be an American and for this guy
- 4:43Speaker 1: to be president going into such a high level meeting
- 4:47Speaker 1: with this kind of attitude. I mean, compare this to
- 4:51Speaker 1: how he talks to I don't know, the premiere of Canada,
- 4:57Speaker 1: who is you know, bad as socialist, but not quite
- 5:00Speaker 1: as a as as as authoritarian, not quite as uh,
- 5:06Speaker 1: you know, aggressively anti American as Xi Jinping is. He
- 5:10Speaker 1: doesn't talk like this too, Zelenski, who is boldly standing
- 5:15Speaker 1: up against, you know, an invasion by authoritarian thug who's
- 5:23Speaker 1: again enemy of the United States. He doesn't talk like
- 5:25Speaker 1: this to anybody about anybody in Europe. This is language
- 5:30Speaker 1: he preserves for authoritary and dictators. And part of the
- 5:34Speaker 1: reason he does this is he thinks by doing this
- 5:39Speaker 1: he gets on their good side. They will they will
- 5:42Speaker 1: really like it, because he thinks he thinks that everybody's him,
- 5:49Speaker 1: like he knows that when people talk like that to him,
- 5:52Speaker 1: it works, it works there immediately on his good side,
- 5:59Speaker 1: and so he projects that to other leaders and he thinks, Okay,
- 6:04Speaker 1: I know what I like. I like butt kissing, so i'll,
- 6:09Speaker 1: you know, I'll do the same to these other leaders.
- 6:13Speaker 1: And it's just it's embarrassing. It's it's it's embarrassing. It's
- 6:18Speaker 1: you know, on the other hand, you know, they've had
- 6:21Speaker 1: negotiations that you know, this meeting is supposed to be
- 6:23Speaker 1: about Yon. It's supposed to be about Taiwan. We'll get
- 6:26Speaker 1: to Taiwan in a minute. It's supposed to be about
- 6:29Speaker 1: trade and tariffs and national security issues regarding trade. And
- 6:39Speaker 1: it's just the whole attitude is, I'm your buddy, guy,
- 6:42Speaker 1: you know, what do you want? How can I help
- 6:44Speaker 1: you where you're supposed to be going in with a
- 6:47Speaker 1: little toughness. I mean. On the other hand, when she
- 6:52Speaker 1: talked to him, you know, she said, you know, we
- 6:58Speaker 1: got to be careful about Taiwan. You gotta be careful.
- 7:01Speaker 1: If we misheadled Taiwan, our relationship was in great jeopardy.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Trump didn't mention jeopardy too. She didn't mention jeopardy. And
- 7:21Speaker 1: then she also asked Trump whether he whether the US
- 7:26Speaker 1: and China could avoid the thiccilidious trap. I'm probably pronouncing
- 7:35Speaker 1: Thicilidius's name wrong, right, trap right, which refers to the
- 7:41Speaker 1: ancient Greek ancient Greek historian describing the trap involved in
- 7:50Speaker 1: a decaying empire, decaying power and arising power. And how
- 8:00Speaker 1: how how that relationship works? And the idea is that
- 8:06Speaker 1: how does that not involve war? So rising power and
- 8:13Speaker 1: a declining power. So she is basically saying, with a
- 8:17Speaker 1: rising power, you Trump represent the declining power. How are
- 8:22Speaker 1: we gonna avoid war? Can can you help me? And
- 8:25Speaker 1: and and uh and my guess is the Trump turned
- 8:28Speaker 1: to his advisors has said, what what's he talking about? What's
- 8:32Speaker 1: what's what's who's that? Die Clitus chap. Yeah, you got
- 8:45Speaker 1: to believe that Trump didn't know what that was going on.
- 8:47Speaker 1: But but yes, this is the different levels, right, Trump
- 8:53Speaker 1: bestowing you know, uh, love and affection, and she stressing
- 9:05Speaker 1: that the most important issue in US China relations is
- 9:09Speaker 1: Taiwan and that Taiwanese independence an idea of peace in
- 9:18Speaker 1: the Taiwan Straits that is even consilable. That is, like
- 9:23Speaker 1: fire and water, there is never going to be a
- 9:26Speaker 1: time where China will accept Taiwanese independence. So here is
- 9:31Speaker 1: she's just laying it down straight out. And she kept
- 9:36Speaker 1: going back in the in the official statement of the
- 9:38Speaker 1: Chinese keep going back to Taiwan. Does does Trump? No,
- 9:43Speaker 1: not a mention of Taiwan. Not a mention of Taiwan.
- 9:52Speaker 1: So Trump has no real answer, nothing as far as
- 10:00Speaker 1: I can tell. I mean, who knows what happened in private.
- 10:04Speaker 1: But it's hard to believe that Trump would stand up
- 10:06Speaker 1: to for Taiwan in front of his good friend, his
- 10:10Speaker 1: great you know, a friend he admires so much. She's
- 10:13Speaker 1: jumping I think, you know, to an extent. Trump was engaged.
- 10:19Speaker 1: It was engaged around trying to talk about, you know,
- 10:24Speaker 1: economic relations. If you look at a readout of the talks,
- 10:30Speaker 1: the US does not mention Taiwan, and they said they
- 10:34Speaker 1: had a good meeting centered on enhancing economic corporation between
- 10:38Speaker 1: the two countries. That thing they agreed on. They agreed
- 10:41Speaker 1: on this. They agreed that the states of Amos had
- 10:45Speaker 1: to be open and free of tolls, according to the
- 10:51Speaker 1: US readout, although the Chinese readout didn't really say that.
- 10:57Speaker 1: She also expressed interest in buying more US oil to
- 11:00Speaker 1: reduce China's dependence on the straits of homos in the future.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I'm sure Trump took that as a huge win. It
- 11:07Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. It's global market. There's only so much
- 11:10Speaker 1: oil out there. There's no trade deal, and any trade
- 11:14Speaker 1: deal that Trump and she are going to sign is
- 11:17Speaker 1: going to be good for China. Again, the best trade
- 11:21Speaker 1: deal for the United States is unilaterals, zero tariffs, get
- 11:26Speaker 1: out of the frigging way, government, get out of the
- 11:29Speaker 1: way of what I want to buy and who I
- 11:31Speaker 1: want to buy from. And you know, if you think
- 11:34Speaker 1: national security is an issue, then yeah, you know that's
- 11:38Speaker 1: an issue, but that's an issue that needs real thought,
- 11:42Speaker 1: real considerations, not the kind of anyway. Yeah. So Trump
- 11:54Speaker 1: performs that the relation is going to be better than
- 11:57Speaker 1: ever before, and she says, yeah, well, we need to
- 12:02Speaker 1: avoid the thick litist trap. Uh, that's how you start
- 12:07Speaker 1: a meeting. Look, I mean China, China came into this
- 12:12Speaker 1: meeting confident. It's it's seeing. Uh. It sees the US,
- 12:20Speaker 1: particularly over the last few years, I'd say since COVID.
- 12:25Speaker 1: It sees the United States as in decline. Uh, it
- 12:29Speaker 1: sees what's going on in you you know, Ukraine now
- 12:33Speaker 1: inability to support Ukraine, to provide Ukraine with the support
- 12:38Speaker 1: necessary for you to fight. It sees the United States
- 12:42Speaker 1: distancing itself from NATO. It sets the US backing off
- 12:47Speaker 1: from its alliances. It sees the US, while achieving incredible
- 12:52Speaker 1: military success in Yuan, not falling through no, not being
- 13:00Speaker 1: willing to actually go for broke. It sees a trade
- 13:04Speaker 1: policy that the United States has which makes no sense
- 13:08Speaker 1: to anybody, anybody, even Trump, it doesn't make sense to him.
- 13:13Speaker 1: And they laugh, and they really see what they see
- 13:16Speaker 1: as a declining party, declining power. And so they're they're
- 13:21Speaker 1: they're much more confident they come to this. You know,
- 13:25Speaker 1: I think I think from their perspective as a as
- 13:28Speaker 1: a leader, not a follower. They're not they're not playing
- 13:31Speaker 1: second fiddle to Trump. And yeah, it's it's not good.
- 13:45Speaker 1: It's not good. But we will see how Trump spends this,
- 13:49Speaker 1: will see what kind of a quote deal he gets
- 13:52Speaker 1: on trade or whatever else. Uh and uh we'll go
- 13:56Speaker 1: from there. But and we'll see where the China does
- 14:01Speaker 1: anything vieus of the Iran, which is what Trump was hoping.
- 14:05Speaker 1: I doubt that's going to happen. I think if Trump
- 14:07Speaker 1: wants anything to move on the Iiron front, He's going
- 14:11Speaker 1: to have to start bombing again. And I wouldn't be
- 14:14Speaker 1: surprised if that happened when he gets back from the
- 14:18Speaker 1: China trip. All right, So the next two stories are
- 14:26Speaker 1: pretty upsetting, and if you have if you have a
- 14:30Speaker 1: delicate disposition, beware the two next stories are very much related,
- 14:38Speaker 1: and they're basically pretty they're pretty brutal. I mean, two
- 14:43Speaker 1: things happened two days ago on Tuesday, May twelfth. The
- 14:49Speaker 1: first was a report came out which examined what actually
- 15:00Speaker 1: happened on October seventh from particularly from the perspective of
- 15:05Speaker 1: sexual violence by the Palestinians against Israeli's on October seventh.
- 15:11Speaker 1: It was based on ten thousand photographs, thousands of videos,
- 15:19Speaker 1: you know, you know, thousands of videos, and the testimonies
- 15:25Speaker 1: of over four hundred survivors and hostages who we released.
- 15:32Speaker 1: And that came out, and we'll talk about that in
- 15:36Speaker 1: a little bit. That came out on Tuesday, and the
- 15:39Speaker 1: story to write a story about that, about this report
- 15:43Speaker 1: that was offered to the New York Times, The New
- 15:45Speaker 1: York Times decided to pass on it, not to have
- 15:48Speaker 1: a story about it. Not to make it a big deal,
- 15:52Speaker 1: as some other news outlets indeed did both here and
- 15:57Speaker 1: in Europe. Instead, The New York Times chose to publish
- 16:03Speaker 1: a essay article, news report how Hotel, which on the
- 16:11Speaker 1: editorial page so kind of an editorial by a Nick Christoph,
- 16:16Speaker 1: a well known New York Times reporter, an article that
- 16:23Speaker 1: is it's pretty horrifying. The article, you know is is
- 16:30Speaker 1: is a uh is about uh testimonials of torture and
- 16:39Speaker 1: rape not Israelis by Palestinians, but our Palestinian prisoners in
- 16:46Speaker 1: Israeli prisons. You know, uh, the the you know, torture
- 16:56Speaker 1: in reade by gods you know who have abused these
- 17:03Speaker 1: Palestinian prisoners in the post October seventh Israeli prison And look,
- 17:12Speaker 1: there is some evidence to suggest that there has been abuse.
- 17:18Speaker 1: I mean, it's been quite a bit of abuse by
- 17:21Speaker 1: between the Palestinians, the Hamas abusing other prisoners, torturing them,
- 17:28Speaker 1: sexual abuse. But also there's probably and there's good reason
- 17:31Speaker 1: to believe that there has been some abuse by gods,
- 17:34Speaker 1: by Israeli gods of some of these Palestinians. I mean,
- 17:38Speaker 1: think about thousands of these Palestinians being captured in Gaza.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Many are responsible for the vicious crimes of October seventh,
- 17:47Speaker 1: These gods because of the sheer number of prisoners coming in,
- 17:53Speaker 1: untrained gods who just seen maybe the videos of what
- 17:57Speaker 1: the Palestinians had done, and there was you know, there
- 18:01Speaker 1: was probably some real abuse. But Christoph's piece is just
- 18:09Speaker 1: full of weird claims, lies, testimonials for people who have
- 18:19Speaker 1: been shown in the past to be unreliable. Uh, famed
- 18:25Speaker 1: Tamus propagandist, spewing propaganda without any sources, without any reliable
- 18:35Speaker 1: confirmation the you know, it's it's the stuff he was claiming. Uh.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Some of it is just sourd This is in the
- 18:55Speaker 1: New York Times, right, You'd think this would go through
- 19:00Speaker 1: real fact checking and sourcing and exploration. But he cites
- 19:10Speaker 1: NGOs who are affiliated with Ramas. He cites an Israeli
- 19:17Speaker 1: source who has said that he hates the state of
- 19:20Speaker 1: Angel and wishes for its demise as a credible source
- 19:25Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that this source claims not
- 19:28Speaker 1: to witness anything himself. I mean, the article is filled
- 19:36Speaker 1: with just for any kind of news story, unsourced, unverified,
- 19:48Speaker 1: but horrific claims about you know, rape, and torture of prisoners,
- 19:58Speaker 1: all the most severe claims anonymous, uncoorroborated and presented in
- 20:06Speaker 1: a kind of an emotional way as to make it
- 20:09Speaker 1: meekeur really get all riled up. He cites you are
- 20:14Speaker 1: mad human rights monitor, an organization that's repeatedly be criticized
- 20:20Speaker 1: for its ties to Ramas. It's disinformation, it is the
- 20:30Speaker 1: whole piece is just an absurdity. It is a blood
- 20:34Speaker 1: libel against Israel. While there probably is abuse, this this
- 20:45Speaker 1: is just a horrible expression anti Semitic hatred. You want
- 20:52Speaker 1: to do a real story and abuse, do a real
- 20:54Speaker 1: story and abuse, Do the work, find the source, figure
- 21:01Speaker 1: out what's true and what's not. Christoff does none of that,
- 21:06Speaker 1: none of that. And look, he's this is not a
- 21:10Speaker 1: This is not a junior reporter. This is a well
- 21:13Speaker 1: established senior person at the New York Times. And this
- 21:19Speaker 1: of course is not a not new for the New
- 21:22Speaker 1: York Times. The New York Times who decided that Gaza
- 21:25Speaker 1: was a genocide, that people were dying of starvation in
- 21:28Speaker 1: Gaza with no evidence, zero evidence. You remember that the
- 21:31Speaker 1: babies showing babies who you know, look like starving, without
- 21:37Speaker 1: mentioning the fact that the baby had cancer that the
- 21:41Speaker 1: New York Times had to this is fun page photograph.
- 21:45Speaker 1: The apology and correction appeared in page twenty two, way
- 21:50Speaker 1: in the back someway. A systematic approach by The New
- 21:57Speaker 1: York Times to make Israel out to be a home,
- 22:05Speaker 1: you know, homicidal, sadistic, horrific place society, and to whitewash
- 22:17Speaker 1: at the same time Habas's crimes. You know it's it
- 22:30Speaker 1: all comes together in one of his most outrageous claims,
- 22:33Speaker 1: right most outrageous claims that he puts together, and that
- 22:42Speaker 1: is that Israel has trained dogs to assault Palestinians and
- 22:52Speaker 1: rape them. I'm not making this up. I'm not making
- 22:56Speaker 1: this up. But the dogs are trained to rape the prisoners.
- 23:02Speaker 1: And he recounts testimony of people who say they've seen
- 23:07Speaker 1: this happen, including penetration. Now, I don't know, but that
- 23:23Speaker 1: is a strong claim, pretty bizarre claim, and a very
- 23:28Speaker 1: strong claim. You would need strong evidence for that. Christoph
- 23:35Speaker 1: provides no such evidence, he claimed on acts and defending
- 23:39Speaker 1: his article after the fact. He claimed that there are
- 23:42Speaker 1: three different medical journals articles discussing rectal injuries and humans
- 23:48Speaker 1: from anal penetration by dogs. But he didn't provide those studies,
- 23:53Speaker 1: didn't provide links to them. And when you actually dig
- 23:58Speaker 1: through and you find the studies, you discover is those
- 24:01Speaker 1: are cases of bestiality. Now, how exactly worked, how they
- 24:06Speaker 1: got the dogs aroused and all that go figure, But
- 24:13Speaker 1: that's kind of research you would think a journalist would
- 24:15Speaker 1: do because based on dog experts who've been interviewed about this,
- 24:24Speaker 1: this whole scenario is an impossibility when with dogs, you know,
- 24:31Speaker 1: in order to penetrate, they would have to get an erection.
- 24:35Speaker 1: To get an erection, they have to smell another dog
- 24:40Speaker 1: in heat, a female dog in heat. It's only then
- 24:46Speaker 1: when the ferono pheromones are released can a dog actually
- 24:55Speaker 1: do it. Anyway, I'm going into this detail just a
- 25:00Speaker 1: illustrate how ridiculously absurd this is. And again maybe it's possible,
- 25:09Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but to make such a claim
- 25:13Speaker 1: and to blame Israeli's for it, you would think you'd
- 25:20Speaker 1: need real evidence, substantial evidence, some kind of scientific verification.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Now this is he you know, one example of what
- 25:35Speaker 1: he did is he he has a He's interviews Hud
- 25:40Speaker 1: Olmert from from from a Prime Minister of Israel who's
- 25:44Speaker 1: quite critical of a lot of stuff that's happening, particularly
- 25:46Speaker 1: on the West Bank, and almost it says something about, yeah,
- 25:49Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise if these things are happening. These kind
- 25:53Speaker 1: of things happen on the West Bank all the time.
- 25:56Speaker 1: And he takes that quote, he puts it right in
- 25:57Speaker 1: the smack in the middle of the article, but almost
- 26:02Speaker 1: says Christoff completely misrepresented the conversation. This is almost statement.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Mister Christoft's article includes claims of extraordinary gravity. The Israeli
- 26:13Speaker 1: authorities have directed the rape of children, the dogs have
- 26:16Speaker 1: been used as instruments of sexual assault, the systematic sexual
- 26:19Speaker 1: torture state policy. I did not validate these claims. I
- 26:24Speaker 1: have no knowledge supporting these claims, as I said to
- 26:27Speaker 1: mister Christoph. Therefore, the positioning of my quote after pages
- 26:31Speaker 1: of such allegations misrepresents my views. It's pretty stunning, pretty stunning,
- 26:51Speaker 1: And of course the New Times is completely supporting Christoph,
- 26:54Speaker 1: completing backing him up. And you know they're claiming this
- 27:01Speaker 1: is all you know, even though it's published as an
- 27:05Speaker 1: up ed, this is all stands up to journalistic grigor.
- 27:14Speaker 1: There are times, as you know, descended into a kind
- 27:20Speaker 1: of Israel hatred and any opportunity to attack Israel, any
- 27:27Speaker 1: opportunity to make Israelis look like monsters, any opportunity to
- 27:31Speaker 1: make Israel look like some kind of horrific, awful, evil state,
- 27:35Speaker 1: they will jump on. They will take, and it's cheered
- 27:40Speaker 1: on and celebrated by their readers, by you know, the
- 27:51Speaker 1: new Democratic establishment today. They just just glorifies in anti Semitism,
- 28:01Speaker 1: and you know they hide behind Oh no, it's just
- 28:04Speaker 1: anti Zionist, anti Israel. But it's really looking here as
- 28:08Speaker 1: a deep, deep, deep hatred of Jews, hatred of Israel,
- 28:13Speaker 1: hatred of everything Israel represents. No We've talked about many
- 28:16Speaker 1: times why they hate Israel so much, and we'll talk
- 28:18Speaker 1: about it again, I'm sure, but it is shocking the
- 28:25Speaker 1: extent to which antisemitism today is all over the place.
- 28:30Speaker 1: I mean, when you have Hassan Paika as a representative,
- 28:36Speaker 1: as a spokesman, as somebody who the Democrats will not condemn,
- 28:46Speaker 1: it's you're not just anti Israel, you're anti your anti civilization,
- 28:54Speaker 1: your anti human life. And now a sizeable part of
- 28:59Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, well particularly the primary voting Democratic Party,
- 29:05Speaker 1: is brought into this. If you look at candidates across
- 29:07Speaker 1: the spectrum. The candidates that are leading right now in
- 29:10Speaker 1: Democratic primaries are vicious anti Israel advocates, and those who
- 29:18Speaker 1: are pro Israel constantly required to apologize for it. Senator Wiena,
- 29:25Speaker 1: who has been relatively pro Israel, had to admit that
- 29:29Speaker 1: Israel committed genocide in order to, I guess be still
- 29:33Speaker 1: be part of the Democratic Party in Michigan. Abdul El sayed,
- 29:40Speaker 1: it leads in the Democratic primary for US Senate seed
- 29:44Speaker 1: he campaigns with us on Pika, and the competitors to
- 29:51Speaker 1: I'll say, yet won't call him on that, won't call
- 29:56Speaker 1: him on the Hassan Pika links because they're afraid. They're
- 30:02Speaker 1: afraid of their own voters. Anyway, one last point in this,
- 30:11Speaker 1: and this will lead us into the next story. Why
- 30:16Speaker 1: did the New York Times publish this? And why did
- 30:19Speaker 1: it publish it on Tuesday? Why did it publish it
- 30:23Speaker 1: on Tuesday? It published it on Tuesday because Tuesday was
- 30:31Speaker 1: the day when they report on the October seventh horrors
- 30:38Speaker 1: was published. They knew that this would divert attention away
- 30:46Speaker 1: from the big story. They knew that this would take
- 30:50Speaker 1: attention away from an article blame me camas, some of
- 30:56Speaker 1: the most horrific actions human beings can engage in. They
- 31:04Speaker 1: knew that this would be a distraction. They published it
- 31:11Speaker 1: so that the defenders of Hamas could say, yeah, maybe
- 31:15Speaker 1: all that stuff on October seventh is right, but the
- 31:17Speaker 1: Israelis do it too. They're just as bad, They're just
- 31:22Speaker 1: as evil. They did it to defend I think it
- 31:28Speaker 1: was the same day on the twelfth, I think it
- 31:30Speaker 1: was Tuesday. They did it to basically side with Ramas
- 31:36Speaker 1: and to deflect the horrors of what is in the
- 31:40Speaker 1: report that was published. And that just makes the New
- 31:52Speaker 1: Times even more evil than I suggested before, more horrific
- 31:56Speaker 1: than I suggested before. It's yeah, it's a real disgrace.
- 32:15Speaker 1: So what was the report? Pot came out again? Based
- 32:19Speaker 1: on ten thousand photographs and videos farm October seventh, the
- 32:22Speaker 1: videos taken by Ramas and uploaded onto the internet, eighteen
- 32:29Speaker 1: hour eighteen hundred hours of visual analysis, hundreds of testimonials
- 32:36Speaker 1: from survivors, and what do they present well? When survivor
- 32:45Speaker 1: tells the story, Have I heard one rape where they
- 32:48Speaker 1: were passing her around? She was probably injured, judging by
- 32:52Speaker 1: her screams. Screams you never heard before. It's between silence
- 33:02Speaker 1: and screams, between pain and wanting to die. And after
- 33:06Speaker 1: they finished they shot her. You wear a bang and silence.
- 33:11Speaker 1: There was laughter, there were jokes. You were passing them
- 33:14Speaker 1: from one to another. It was done for fun. After
- 33:21Speaker 1: she was rescued, she said she saw bodies. It wasn't
- 33:26Speaker 1: a single body there wasn't that just died normally. Every
- 33:31Speaker 1: single one had gone through torture. I mean the level
- 33:39Speaker 1: of barberism. I mean, I don't know, I guess. I
- 33:43Speaker 1: encourage you to read this for yourselves. There's video out there,
- 33:48Speaker 1: everything is documented, but you should read this just to
- 33:58Speaker 1: get a sense of what this is all really about. Now,
- 34:05Speaker 1: remember this is wasn't Ramas. This was led by Ramas,
- 34:10Speaker 1: but it wasn't only Ramas. Thousands of Palestinians came across
- 34:15Speaker 1: the border, regular Palestinian men, not members of Ramas, to
- 34:20Speaker 1: participate in the fun. You know. The women were stabbed
- 34:31Speaker 1: to death, raped after they were already dead. In parts
- 34:38Speaker 1: of the body, in the intimate areas, nails were embedded,
- 34:42Speaker 1: said one first responder. Of the bodies, he encountered aluminum cans, grenades, nails,
- 34:50Speaker 1: blunt objects, rods, household tools spiked like instruments insided into
- 34:55Speaker 1: genitals and other parts of the bodies of the victims.
- 35:00Speaker 1: The practice was systematic. In one room where bodies were
- 35:05Speaker 1: discovered completely mutilated, the touta was gleeful. It was filmed, uploaded, celebrated.
- 35:25Speaker 1: In some cases, sexually abused people sexually abused right next
- 35:29Speaker 1: to their family in front of family members. In one
- 35:34Speaker 1: case who were taken family members who were taken hostage,
- 35:42Speaker 1: family members were forced to commit sex acts on one another,
- 35:47Speaker 1: an intentional, premeditated strategy to destroy family units even after
- 35:53Speaker 1: they were released from captivity. The women who fell into clutchers,
- 36:01Speaker 1: who are you know? They were stripped, bound, stabbed, shot, burned, executed,
- 36:09Speaker 1: both during and after they were raped. Some women's heads
- 36:14Speaker 1: had been bashed in with a brain spilling out, others
- 36:19Speaker 1: riddled with so many bullets. The extremities disintegrated, genitals were disfigured, impaled,
- 36:28Speaker 1: burned as they were their faces. And I know it's
- 36:31Speaker 1: difficult to read this and it's difficult to hear it.
- 36:39Speaker 1: Bet it was real, well documented, evident testimonies, photographs. Now
- 36:49Speaker 1: it turns out that the Hamas actually had written instructions
- 36:57Speaker 1: coming into the joe about how to do all this
- 37:01Speaker 1: they learned. You know, I hadn't had in writing the
- 37:04Speaker 1: Hebrew words for get undressed, open your legs. They were
- 37:10Speaker 1: guided to behave this way. They were instructed to behave
- 37:14Speaker 1: this way, and they relished it. So I mean, this
- 37:25Speaker 1: goes on for pages and pages and pages, right, and
- 37:31Speaker 1: this is now reporting the Wall Street Journal, you know,
- 37:34Speaker 1: and you know with all the gory details, so you
- 37:47Speaker 1: know people the way people survived that day. You know,
- 37:50Speaker 1: here's an example of one. One woman describes another fell
- 37:56Speaker 1: to the ground, shot in the head. I pulled her
- 37:59Speaker 1: body over me and spied her blood on me so
- 38:02Speaker 1: it would look like I was dead too. I will
- 38:04Speaker 1: never forget her face. Every night I wake to it
- 38:10Speaker 1: and apologize to her, saying I'm sorry. They gang raped
- 38:19Speaker 1: males as well, not just women. They laughed, They were
- 38:24Speaker 1: very pleased, as if they were playing with a six dollar.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Now again, this is went way beyond, way beyond the
- 38:39Speaker 1: the hamas, the dedicated Hamas. This was, you know, this was,
- 38:51Speaker 1: this was Palestinians, gousins coming in and doing this. They
- 38:56Speaker 1: didn't have to Nobody put a gun to their head.
- 38:59Speaker 1: They wanted to. This is the kind of hatred, the
- 39:05Speaker 1: kind of evil that is in their minds, not in
- 39:07Speaker 1: their hearts, in their minds of evil that is in
- 39:10Speaker 1: their minds that led them to this. This is an
- 39:14Speaker 1: educational system that teaches them the Jews are not human.
- 39:17Speaker 1: This is the consequence of systematically teaching people and preaching
- 39:21Speaker 1: anti Semitism. So that is that is the report. I mean,
- 39:44Speaker 1: I'm not doing justice because again, you guys should expose
- 39:48Speaker 1: yourself to it, as hard as that might be, because
- 39:52Speaker 1: you need to understand the evil that is being fought here.
- 39:57Speaker 1: And it's not unique to the Palestinians. There is the
- 40:04Speaker 1: Palestinians have this in space because and they feel like
- 40:09Speaker 1: they are owed it because they're supposedly oppressed. They think
- 40:16Speaker 1: that the Israelis are sub human because that's what they're
- 40:19Speaker 1: being taught for when they're little by at schools that
- 40:21Speaker 1: the United Nations runs. But this is how human beings
- 40:27Speaker 1: behave towards one another in the pre civilized era. This
- 40:31Speaker 1: is what Christians to one another in the pre Enlightenment.
- 40:36Speaker 1: This is what routinely happened in the glorious Bronze Age
- 40:41Speaker 1: that so many people celebrate and wolfit throughout the ages
- 40:45Speaker 1: in uncivilized periods of human history. This is how people behaved.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Now this is particularly vicious because the hatred is so vicious,
- 41:02Speaker 1: and the use of sexual violence to degrade intentionally, it
- 41:08Speaker 1: was so intentional and so vicious. But this is barbarism.
- 41:14Speaker 1: This is what barbarians do. And beware of the barbarians,
- 41:21Speaker 1: Beware of letting them in, and beware of, you know,
- 41:31Speaker 1: not teaching them a lesson when they behave in barbaric ways.
- 41:36Speaker 1: This is why it's so crucial to defeat the Palestinians,
- 41:41Speaker 1: not just ramas the Palestinians, to defeat them, to crush them,
- 41:45Speaker 1: to humiliate them, to bring them to their knees, not
- 41:48Speaker 1: bisexually abusing them, not by raping them, not by gratruitously
- 41:53Speaker 1: murdering them, but by teaching them a lesson that such
- 42:01Speaker 1: behavior as October seventh will never be rewarded, will never
- 42:06Speaker 1: result in anything good, anything positive, that their dreams finished,
- 42:12Speaker 1: they're gone, they you know. And and we are way
- 42:21Speaker 1: way way too nice to these people, way too nice.
- 42:33Speaker 1: And the one Gaza is not finished. Remember the one
- 42:35Speaker 1: Gaza is not finished. Still a so called cease fire.
- 42:43Speaker 1: All right, let's switch gears that's hard. It's not easy
- 42:53Speaker 1: to switch gears after that. But let's switch gears. We've
- 42:57Speaker 1: got a newman of the Federal Reserve, Colin Powell. His
- 43:04Speaker 1: term is up for the first time in I think
- 43:08Speaker 1: eighty years. He will stay on at the Federal Reserve,
- 43:11Speaker 1: Powell until the end of his term as a FED member,
- 43:16Speaker 1: which as a FED board member, which ends in two years.
- 43:20Speaker 1: And he's doing that basically for self preservation. He is
- 43:23Speaker 1: afraid that if he leaves the FED that Trump will
- 43:27Speaker 1: turn around and accuse him of you know, foud or
- 43:33Speaker 1: whatever around this, you know, renovation of the Federal Reserve building.
- 43:38Speaker 1: And he's staying on the board so basically until all
- 43:41Speaker 1: of that investigation and all of that is cleared up
- 43:45Speaker 1: and gone. But importantly, there is a new There is
- 43:49Speaker 1: a new Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and that is
- 43:53Speaker 1: Kevin Wash. Kevin Wash is a kind of a visit
- 44:02Speaker 1: I guess scholar at He teaches at the Business School
- 44:05Speaker 1: at Stanford, but he's really a member the Hoover Institute,
- 44:08Speaker 1: a visiting scholar over there. He is non economist. He
- 44:14Speaker 1: graduated with a bachelor's degree in public policy from Stanford
- 44:17Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two. He got a Harvard law degree
- 44:21Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five. He worked emergency and acquisitions at
- 44:27Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley in New York. He rose to become the
- 44:32Speaker 1: firm's vice president and executive director of Investment Banking within
- 44:36Speaker 1: the Mergers and Acquisition's division. In two thousand and two,
- 44:42Speaker 1: President Bush made wash a Special Assistant to the President
- 44:46Speaker 1: of Economic Policy an executive Secretary of the National Economic Council.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Wassh's work involved handling the aftermath of multiple significant accounting scandals,
- 44:59Speaker 1: if you remember, that led ultimately to the horrific regulation
- 45:05Speaker 1: that involved Sarbain's Oxley. In January two thousand and six,
- 45:11Speaker 1: he was nominated to serve on the Board of the
- 45:14Speaker 1: Federal Reserve. He became, I think the youngest member ever
- 45:18Speaker 1: to serve on the board. He was thirty five that
- 45:22Speaker 1: right two thousand and six, he would have been thirty six,
- 45:24Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six, and he served does a lieutenant
- 45:29Speaker 1: to the board's chairman, Ben bernanke In particularly in the
- 45:33Speaker 1: response of two thousand and eight financial crisis. He was
- 45:38Speaker 1: involved in the mergers and acquisitions. He's emergency acquisition guy.
- 45:41Speaker 1: She is involved in the sale of Best stunts, the
- 45:45Speaker 1: JP Morgan and the bankruptci of Lehman Brothers, and the
- 45:48Speaker 1: bail out of IIG and all the crap that was
- 45:51Speaker 1: going on during that period. And he ultimately resigned from
- 46:02Speaker 1: the board in twenty eleven because he objected to one
- 46:07Speaker 1: of the q e's the quantitative easings, the massive buying
- 46:11Speaker 1: of gum and bonds by the Federal Reserve. And at
- 46:14Speaker 1: that point he became a lecture at the Stanford Graduate
- 46:17Speaker 1: School of Business. He has been nominated by It was
- 46:20Speaker 1: nominated by Trump and approved by the Senate by the
- 46:24Speaker 1: smallest margin in history of this vote. So it becomes
- 46:30Speaker 1: it becomes more and more partisan, if you will, these
- 46:36Speaker 1: kind of votes. But he won by fifty four I
- 46:40Speaker 1: think to fifty four to forty to forty six or
- 46:45Speaker 1: something like that, which is the smallest margin ever in
- 46:48Speaker 1: Fed history. Let's see what else you know. The assumption
- 46:55Speaker 1: is that Trump brings him in to lower interest rates,
- 47:00Speaker 1: and Trump has been hoppying on the Fed for a
- 47:02Speaker 1: while now that they need a lower interest rates. I
- 47:05Speaker 1: don't know if you notice. We would have talked about
- 47:07Speaker 1: this if I had a show. But the inflation numbers
- 47:10Speaker 1: came in earlier. This week's CPI price inflation came in
- 47:14Speaker 1: very high, the highest it's been since the high inflation
- 47:19Speaker 1: rate Jing Obama. Much higher than expected, much higher than
- 47:24Speaker 1: previous months, primarily result of the rising prices. So I
- 47:28Speaker 1: don't think this is really inflation. This is more prices
- 47:32Speaker 1: going up because of some prices going up because of
- 47:36Speaker 1: the run war. But there's also indication that there might
- 47:39Speaker 1: be actual inflation going on. M two, which is a
- 47:42Speaker 1: measure of the monetary supply. Money supply, it's been going
- 47:46Speaker 1: up quite a bit in the last few months anyway.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Kevin wassh is I guess a gender that Trump has
- 47:58Speaker 1: sent Tom in is the lower interest rates, and yet
- 48:02Speaker 1: it's rare that interstates are lowered while inflation CPI is
- 48:06Speaker 1: as high as it is. Walsh has a strategy of
- 48:09Speaker 1: how to deal with this. He wants to actually actively
- 48:12Speaker 1: shrink the money supply by reducing the size of the
- 48:18Speaker 1: Fed balance sheet that is selling morgasbacked securities and bonds
- 48:23Speaker 1: and government bonds into the market, which sucks money out
- 48:26Speaker 1: of the economy right and at the same time reduce
- 48:30Speaker 1: interest rates. He also believes that reducing interestrates is going
- 48:37Speaker 1: to be fine because of massive increases in productivity from
- 48:40Speaker 1: AI are going to create downward pressure on prices very soon.
- 48:46Speaker 1: So that's the agenda. It's going to be interesting to
- 48:49Speaker 1: see what he actually does. All of that is going
- 48:53Speaker 1: to be difficult, and some of it is a little
- 48:58Speaker 1: self contradictory and complicated. Won't get into it here. Why
- 49:03Speaker 1: reduce the size of the balance sheet if the Fed
- 49:06Speaker 1: is not as easy as it sounds. But we're going
- 49:10Speaker 1: to watch and see. As I've told you many many times,
- 49:14Speaker 1: maybe those of you and you have not not hood
- 49:16Speaker 1: this before. There is you know, the Federals of chairman.
- 49:23Speaker 1: The best Federals of Chairmen can do is not screw
- 49:26Speaker 1: up too badly. There's no such thing as good monetary
- 49:33Speaker 1: policy anymore than there is any such thing as good
- 49:36Speaker 1: price setting in an economy. Central planning doesn't work, Trying
- 49:42Speaker 1: to set prices doesn't work. Trying to manipulate the economy
- 49:46Speaker 1: from above doesn't work. It's just a matter of how
- 49:50Speaker 1: much harm you do or don't do. You can minimize
- 49:54Speaker 1: damage or not. Powell was a pretty bad chairman of
- 49:58Speaker 1: the Fed, primarily because he oversaw a huge spiking inflation
- 50:04Speaker 1: in the post COVID era, which could have been avoided.
- 50:08Speaker 1: He didn't see it coming. He called it transitory. He
- 50:10Speaker 1: thought it was a supply shock and didn't realize the
- 50:13Speaker 1: monetary origins of the inflation, and as a consequence, didn't
- 50:18Speaker 1: know anything about it. So what you get is, you know,
- 50:25Speaker 1: so Federal chairman again can screw up. They can't do
- 50:28Speaker 1: much good. Alan Greenspan screwed up in many ways, Binanke did.
- 50:36Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see how Wash handles all this.
- 50:40Speaker 1: It's particularly interesting with Wash because because he has he
- 50:47Speaker 1: has to appease Donald Trump, so there's that combination of things.
- 50:54Speaker 1: But so we will we will see, of course how
- 50:56Speaker 1: all that plays out. Will keep an eye on him. Wait,
- 51:02Speaker 1: two more quick ones. Earlier this week, there was a
- 51:05Speaker 1: video circulating, a few videos of circulating, I guess it
- 51:09Speaker 1: was late last week of AOC talking about billionaires, and
- 51:14Speaker 1: that stimulated whole discussion online about billionaires and about whether
- 51:19Speaker 1: they should be billionaires and who they are and what
- 51:22Speaker 1: they are and how you become a billionaire and so on,
- 51:26Speaker 1: which has just been you know, horrific. But AOC I
- 51:34Speaker 1: couldn't let this comment pass because it's so brilliant, ALC
- 51:37Speaker 1: said in a discussion. She said you know, after all,
- 51:40Speaker 1: the American Revolution was against the billionaires of their time.
- 51:46Speaker 1: I didn't realize it. I mean, did you realize that
- 51:48Speaker 1: that the American Revolution was fought by against the billionaires.
- 51:54Speaker 1: And that's why we have a Declaration of Invendance. Don't
- 51:56Speaker 1: you remember the argument in the declaration again against the
- 52:00Speaker 1: wealth accumulation by the British. So the American Revolution was
- 52:08Speaker 1: fought against billionaires. George Washington was probably the richest man
- 52:13Speaker 1: in America at the time, was the equivalent of billionaire today,
- 52:19Speaker 1: was on the wrong side of that revolution. It turns
- 52:21Speaker 1: out she was fighting against himself. It wasn't again, the
- 52:27Speaker 1: Revolution was not fought for freedom, not for rights to life,
- 52:32Speaker 1: liberty and pursuit of happiness, not for the idea all
- 52:34Speaker 1: men are equal in their rights and before the law. No,
- 52:37Speaker 1: none of that. It was a it was a class war.
- 52:41Speaker 1: It was a it was a war of those who
- 52:44Speaker 1: do not have against those who have. It was all
- 52:47Speaker 1: about economics, and it was all about class, and it
- 52:50Speaker 1: was all about getting rid of getting rid of billionaires.
- 52:53Speaker 1: She also said, I'm not sure if a staying interview
- 52:55Speaker 1: or if she was just on a role that week,
- 53:00Speaker 1: just said that it's impossible to become a billionaire. Honestly,
- 53:07Speaker 1: that really the only way to become a billionaire is
- 53:10Speaker 1: by exploiting people and stealing stuff. And Robert Which then
- 53:19Speaker 1: came out with a post saying they're basically five ways
- 53:25Speaker 1: to accumulate a billion dollars. One profiting for monopoly, two
- 53:30Speaker 1: inside of training, three political payoffs four four five inhabitants
- 53:36Speaker 1: don't believe the self made myth. Now I've got a
- 53:40Speaker 1: question for Robert White and for aoc where does JK
- 53:46Speaker 1: Wallins fit in this? JK Rollins? I mean, let's just
- 53:52Speaker 1: go over these ways in which you become a billionaire.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Because j K Wallins is a billionaire. Did she inhabit
- 53:58Speaker 1: the money? No? I mean JK. Wallens came from a
- 54:00Speaker 1: pretty simple background when she was when she wrote the
- 54:03Speaker 1: first Harry Potter novel, she literally was in welfare, so
- 54:07Speaker 1: it can be from inheritance. Do we have any any
- 54:12Speaker 1: evidence that JK. Rollins committed fraud to achieve a billionaire status? No,
- 54:18Speaker 1: it's fuzz I know, she just sold books. She just
- 54:21Speaker 1: sold books. Was that a political payoff? Did somebody did?
- 54:28Speaker 1: Was she a crony? Yes? The Conservative government really wanted
- 54:32Speaker 1: Harry Potter out there. So they paid her off. They
- 54:35Speaker 1: paid her billion dollars to write the book. No, I
- 54:37Speaker 1: mean that's not true. Instide of trading. Nope, nope, nope, nope.
- 54:44Speaker 1: Profiting for a monopoly. Well yes, okay, granted you know
- 54:49Speaker 1: they got me. She had a monopoly over Harry Potter.
- 54:54Speaker 1: There you go if you call that a monopoly, just
- 54:59Speaker 1: like Apple has a monopoly over Apple, Google has a
- 55:02Speaker 1: monopoly over Google. J. K. Rollins have monopoly over Harry Potter.
- 55:10Speaker 1: Edward thinks you got to write magic. But that's true
- 55:16Speaker 1: of you know, pretty much all these billionaires. If you
- 55:28Speaker 1: look at the biographies of the Forbes four hundred riches,
- 55:31Speaker 1: four hundred people in America, most of them, well over
- 55:35Speaker 1: fifty percent, are self made. None of them made their
- 55:40Speaker 1: billions inside of trading a fraud or monopoly or what
- 55:45Speaker 1: was the other one. You know, inhabitants, they're self made,
- 55:49Speaker 1: they literally, So this is all bs. Twelve point five
- 55:56Speaker 1: percent of the Forbes four hundred are inherited fortunes. Twelve
- 56:01Speaker 1: point five percent, I guess another ten percent inherited fortune,
- 56:08Speaker 1: but then grew it significantly, right, inhabited a business and
- 56:15Speaker 1: then grew the business. Another six percent inhibited a business
- 56:19Speaker 1: and scaled it to billions. I know what you want
- 56:21Speaker 1: to call that? Self made with wealthy head start. Another
- 56:30Speaker 1: ten percent self made with middle upper income, middle class income.
- 56:38Speaker 1: Basically thirty eight point five self made from little or
- 56:43Speaker 1: from actual adversity nineteen percent. The more people in the
- 56:47Speaker 1: group that came from adversity than inherited, they will and
- 56:54Speaker 1: the lifes continue, and the war on billionaires continues, and
- 56:57Speaker 1: it's not going to go away. I mean, part of
- 57:01Speaker 1: the reason, part of the way you can justify, for example,
- 57:05Speaker 1: right raping and mutilating human bodies is by dehumanizing them.
- 57:13Speaker 1: It's by convincing yourself and others that they're not human,
- 57:16Speaker 1: they're not real. And one of the ways that the
- 57:24Speaker 1: Democratic Party right now, the left is looking towards, you know,
- 57:30Speaker 1: massive tax increases and billionaires, is by convincing themselves and
- 57:36Speaker 1: trying to convince you that they didn't make it, that
- 57:39Speaker 1: they didn't known it, that they stole it, they exploited it.
- 57:41Speaker 1: It's not theirs. So you get now you get Mamdani
- 57:48Speaker 1: and AOC of course claiming this, but you know, it's
- 57:53Speaker 1: it's not just them, you know, Boone said, is Elizabeth Wan.
- 57:56Speaker 1: But it's not just that part of the Democratic Party.
- 57:59Speaker 1: You so what they didn't want us in the state.
- 58:01Speaker 1: You're seeing what they're going to try to do in
- 58:02Speaker 1: California and what bum Donny wants to do in New York.
- 58:06Speaker 1: There is a tidal wave against billionaires coming. This is
- 58:12Speaker 1: going to be very hard to stop because thanks to Trump,
- 58:16Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get a tsunami of Democrats getting
- 58:19Speaker 1: elected to Congress next year or this year. And this
- 58:24Speaker 1: is higher on their agenda. Higher on their priority list
- 58:28Speaker 1: is to raise as much revenue as they can from
- 58:31Speaker 1: billionaires by stealing, by taking it all. Right, Finally, this
- 58:41Speaker 1: is the story we talked about a few weeks ago,
- 58:43Speaker 1: and that is I remember the Alberta they had gotten
- 58:46Speaker 1: three hundred thousand signatures to get a referendum for independence
- 58:52Speaker 1: to leave Canada. This is in Alberta, Canada. Well, the court,
- 58:58Speaker 1: the Canadian I guess Alberta, what is it? The Alberta,
- 59:02Speaker 1: Alberta Court Provincial court has decided that the petition is
- 59:10Speaker 1: illegitimate because it did not consult the first nations, these
- 59:18Speaker 1: the Indian tribes that live in Alberta. The judge decided
- 59:25Speaker 1: that that the that the secession might contradict in conflict
- 59:39Speaker 1: with treaties that the first nation signed from before there
- 59:44Speaker 1: was even a Canada, or not before there was a Canada,
- 59:48Speaker 1: before it's an Alberta. Uh and uh that since it
- 59:54Speaker 1: affects the treaties with Canada, they would have to sign
- 59:58Speaker 1: off of it. So those of you are Canadian who
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: had hopes that Alberta was going to become an independent
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: state or maybe even join the United States or something
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: like that, a judge is just squash that destroyed that
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: it's gone in happening. Sorry, guys, all right, that is
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- 1:05:05Speaker 1: I'm going to skip the rest of the sponsors for
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: today just because I'm not feeling great and jump in
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: with the questions so we can move forward. We have
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: quite a few, all right. Let's start with Michael, who
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: was put a lot of questions, a lot of questions
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: and a lot of money. Thank you, thank you Michael, Oh,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: thank you Bonnie, and thank you Enric for the stickers. Michael,
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: this is one hundred dollars. I had a professor tell
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: me not to use the word bum because that kind
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: of language dehumanizes the poor, and dehumanizing language leads to
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: atrocities like the Holocaust. Is there such truth to this
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: or is this just an altruistic way to never criticize
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: the poor. Well, it's both. There's truth to the fact
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: that in order to get a way worth a Holocaust,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: first they needed to dehumanize the Jews. They needed to
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: make it okay to kill them in mass So there
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: was a campaign to dehumanize them. But the goal was
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: always to get rid of them, to kill them, to
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: eliminate them, and dehumanization was necessary to achieve that goal.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Calling somebody a bum is not necessarily dehumanizing. It's a
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: description of what they actually are, in some cases, not
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: all poor people, but certainly some. And your goal is
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: not to eliminate the poor, so it you know, the
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: two don't match, right. So if your goal was I
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: want to get rid of the poor, I want to
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: have concentration camps and kill all the poor people, then
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: the first step I would do is the human use them.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: But if you just want to insult somebody because maybe
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: you think they deserve the insult, that is not leading
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: to genocide. There's no goal here of I want to
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: kill them all. I just want to say, you know,
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: shape up, bum, you know, get a job. So I
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: but I think it's I think ultimately it's it's driven
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: by altruism. You can't say anything to criticize the poor.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: The poor are virtuous by the very fact that they
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: are poor. You can you really shouldn't insult them. You
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: you know, they are worthy of your respect. Why because
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: they are poor? And uh, you know that's Christianity, that
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: is that is altruism, the whole idea that we need
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: to respect people who we don't respect. And again, not
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: all poor people are bums, but some poor people are.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: Assuming a bomb is somebody who doesn't want to work,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: and it's just laying around doing nothing and expecting to
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: be to leach off of others. Some people are like
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: that and they should be called that. It's just a rational,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: objective description of what they are. So that's not dehumanizing,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: that's actually showing them for what they are. Kim, thank
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: you for the sticker. We really appreciate it. Thank you, Michael.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: But we're going back to Michael for fifty dollars. Does
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: it really make sense to leave New York or California
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: and move to a red state? You pay a little
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: less in taxes and streets a little cleaner, they're fewer homeless,
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: but there's no culture, there's nothing to do. It just
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: seems it just seems worth it. It doesn't seem worth it.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on you, right, It depends on
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: how much you value culture versus cleanliness and maybe less crime,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: although it depends somewhere. It states are more violent than
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: blue states. New York is not particularly crime is not
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: particularly a problem, hasn't been at least a problem. But
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: in California, in many parts of California, crime is not
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: a problem. So is it worth it? Depending on your situation,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: how much money would you save, How do you value
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: the different parts of your life? Do you have kids,
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: don't you have kids? You know? Do you want to
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: what kind of conditions you want to live under? So
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: it only makes sense to leave the question of whether
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: it makes sense to leave any particular place, under any
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: particular circumstances is dependent on you, on your values, on
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: an objective assessment of them. For some people, it makes
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: sense if right now in life, your focus in life
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: is on saving money. You're focus in life is is
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: try to save as much money as you can. You're
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: pursuing a career. You don't have a lot of time
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: for the culture, and you could look for red states
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: that have culture. Austin has culture, Dallas and Houston have culture,
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: so it's not obvious that rich states don't have culture.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: You know, Miami has culture. So it's a different culture,
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: and you have to make the choice of whether it's
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: worth it or not given your circumstances, given your higher
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: key of values. At this point in life, I would
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: have not left California earlier in my life. Bet at
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: the point in life where I left California, it made
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: complete sense for me to leave California. But you have
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: to make that assessment for you for yourself. Michael again,
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: I mean hearing again fifty dollars, Thank you, Michael. I've
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: been hearing the argument lately that anti Semitism isn't rising,
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: it's returning to the normal levels. The post World War
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: Two suppression of anti Semitism was an anomaly. Now the
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: traditional levels of anti seven are being restored. I don't
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: know how people know this and how they measure it
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: and how they would figure this out right, And clearly
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: the Nazis represent a spike in anti Semitism, but off
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: of what I mean, the programs in Russia were spiking
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: anti semitism, and there was a lull when post World
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: War Two suddenly in the West. But is this a return?
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: Are they going to be pograms the Nazis coming back?
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just sloppy. I think the
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: whole thing is sloppy. Anti Semitism is on the rise,
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: and arguably the post World War two represent it an
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: advance towards more civilized state. You know, progress means constantly
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: being more civilized, and the anti semitism, anti racism attitudes
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: of the post Civil Rights era at least represented an
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: advancement towards civilization. We're retreating from that. Are we retreating
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: to the pre World War two or are we retreating to
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: Eastern Europe Russia? Are we were treating to nineteenth century France?
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: What are we were treating too? Is less important then
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: the fact that we were treating we're moving away from civilization,
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: you know, away from the civilized, towards the barbaric. That's
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: what antisemitism represents. That's what it is, is the canary
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: in the coal mine. It is representative of a move
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: away from reason, away from rationality, and definitely away from individualism,
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: towards a world of collectivism and ultimately barbarism. And that
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: is what we need to be afraid of. And what
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: the level is exactly and how to calibrate that and
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: whether that's you know, that's irrelevant. It's it's getting worse,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: moving away from goodness, away from civilization, all right, James,
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: thank you. Michael Junior interview with Terror Smith. She said
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: altruism has brought us here, referring to the rise of Trump,
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: and is disgusting racism, But isn't what we're witnessing. Isn't
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: what we're witnessing more nihilism and collectivism. Is altruism at
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: the base of both of these, Yes, because nihilism and
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: the kind of irrationalism and narcissism expressed in Trump both
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: all reactions to altruism. There are forms of rejecting altruism,
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: but on altruisms, on altruisms standards on altruisms context, they're
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: not about rejecting altruism for a real alternative. They're about, oh,
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: I don't want the consequence of altruisms. I'll do something else.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Not I'll do something that's in myself interest in a
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: rational way, rationally speaking. So, I mean, if you think
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: about nihilism, nihilism is that is the recognition that on
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: the altruism there are no values. I must live for you.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Why so what values can I have? I mean, my
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: values are condemned. If they if they promote my self interest,
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: my real self interest, I'm condemned. So I can't have
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: any values. So nihilism in a sense of recognition for
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: that and embracing of that, and and and the rejection
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: of all values as a consequence. But altruism sets that up,
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: makes that possible. And of course collectivism is just a
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: political manifestation of altruism. Collectivism is all it says is
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: your life is not yours. Well we knew that from altruism.
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: You should sacrifice for others. Yeah, you should sacrifice for
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: this other, this collective, this group, this tribe. Collectivism is
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: just the political manifestation of altruism. All right, so hopefully
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: that answers James. But yes, it's all about altruism. I mean,
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: everything bad in our world today you can link to
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: altruism in one way or another. Altruism and mysticism or
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: would destroy civilization seeing nature observer, thank you for the sticker.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: I think I got in. Yeah, I got kim. All right,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: so I think caught up. By the way, we're only
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: thirty nine dollars short of out of our goal. Not
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: you have age algorithm. Two part question. Llms do think,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: just not the same way humans do. It's clear that
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: they demonstrate conceptual thinking. If you're going to handwave, what
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: an LLM does is just playing back old information, and
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: you have to say that's what humans do as well. No,
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: I don't have to say that at all. So the
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: two completely different. If a machine can do a task
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: that requires a conceptual thought and do it without being
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: specifically trained for that exact task, then it is demonstrating
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: conceptual thought. I use lms every day in my work.
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: They're not simply regurgitators. I agree. They're not simply regurgitators.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: They're very, very complicated, complex regurgitators. But they're not expressing
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: conceptual thought because they can't think because they're not conscious.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Conceptual thought requires consciousness, and that's not what they're doing.
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: They're mimicking it and they pretend, you know, I'm thinking,
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this, I'm thinking about this, But that's
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: just they're pulling material together, not They can't induce. They
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: have no capacity for induction. They can't literally think because
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: they can't they're not conscious, so they can't create new knowledge.
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: They can take existing knowledge and you know, sol problems
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: with it and manipulate it and we configure it, but
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: they're not actually doing what we do as human beings.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: They're not observing, you know, a chair and another chair
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: and a different type of chair and another different type
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: of chairs and coming up with the concept of chair.
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: They can't do that. They can't foam concepts. They can't
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: do what's involved in concept formation, which is seeing similarities
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: and dropping the measurements. They certainly can't form an abstract
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: concept like love because they don't have reference to it. Well.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: In order to form a concept, you have to have
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: it refer to something, but they don't know what refers
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: it except what they've read in a dictionary. But if
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: all you do is read a dictionary definition of love.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: You can't, you know, haven't conceptualized love unless you actually
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: feel love, experience love. See the love you can have
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: for a child, and a love you can have for mother,
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: and a love can f o a spouse and see
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: the differences between them, but still identify them all as love.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: Until you can do that, you haven't conceptualized love. Now
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: you can ask about love. It can even tell you
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: the differences between love between a mother and between a
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: parent and a child and a spouse and all of that,
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: and difference between romantic love and family love and all
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: that stuff. It can tell you that, but that's not
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: because it's experienced it therefore, not because it knows it knowledge,
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: but because its database has stories about this and that,
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: and and it can you know, it can see differences,
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: but it can't experience any of it. And even our language, see,
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: our language is not even appropriate for talking about ler limbs,
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: because we say see differences, but they don't see differences.
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: We say it realizes or thinks or calculate, but it
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: doesn't do any of those things. It's running and I'm
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: good that basically looks for difference and similarities. We don't
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: run it out good, not statistical algorithm like an LLLM does.
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: We're literally sensing beings. We are connected to reality. Now
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: it might be that once you connect the machine to
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: reality and once it becomes a sensing being, and maybe
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: it can develop consciousness. I doubt it without biology, but
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: maybe that you could create something. But as of now
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: it is simply not. It is a very very very
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: sophisticated amazing because I use LLLMS and I am blown
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: away by them all the time. Amazing tool, but they're
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: not conceptual thinkers. They use concepts, but they don't think
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: thinking requires consciousness because you're being aware of the fact
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: that you're thinking and they can't. So you know, a
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: subconscious is doing something right. It finds connections, similarities and
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: so on, but it's not running a mathematical algorithm. Maybe
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: the outcome is you could we're trying to do with
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: LMS is maybe try to mimic what is actually happening
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: with a mathematical algorithm. But there's no math in our brains,
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: so it's not even like our subconscious brain. There's no
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: math in our brains. There's no formula in our brains,
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: So how does the brain exactly work. How does it
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: do what it does? We're still learning. We don't know.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: We know very little about the brain. Still to extrapolate
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: from that to yeah, lllms just like a brain. And
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: therefore their thinking, sorry, don't buy it, all right, but
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: thank you not you have a joago with them. Thank
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: you there's one hundred dollars. Really appreciate that. James for
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: fifty dollars, Really appreciate the support. Guys. You guys are great.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: And Michael, of course with two hundred three hundred dollars,
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: I think here or close to all right, Michael for
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Trump is a real test of the system.
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: The courts have to stand up to him. Are they
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: like Rymer courts stood up to Hitler? Well, the Viema
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: courts didn't stand up to Hitler. American courts have stood
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: up to Hitler here and there. We'll see if they
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: consistently do so, you know both right, Citizenship will be
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: a big test. We've already got tariffs. That was a
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: big test. We'll see some other things that come to
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: the courts over time. I think the system can sustain Trump,
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: but what comes next, you know, over the long run,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: the system will be eroded, There's no question about that.
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: So we'll see what comes next, what happens after Trump
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: of a crazy leftist because people fed up with Trump,
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: so they'll they'll go left, and then he'll do He'll
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: be a disaster. And then what will the right come
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: up with, you know, to combat the crazy leftist, the
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: crazy rightist. I mean, it doesn't end well, Michael. Is
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: the West turning away from freedom is a question. I
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: guess only the left and right, also most libertarians and
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: of course most contemporary intellectuals, including many business leaders. But
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: really that's about it. But that's everything. Yes, the West
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: is turning away from freedom, sadly, not completely, but incrementally,
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: and it's not going in a good direction. But yeah,
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: that's pretty funny, Michael, Liam. Do you think any or
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: many concentration Kemp guards weren't bothered or tormented at all
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: by their subconsciousness for what they were doing on a
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: daily basis. I think some were. I think, you know,
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: human beings are really good at evasions, so some and
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: some convinced themselves this is the humanizing that Jews were
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: really rats, were really vermin, and therefore what was happening
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: to them was just and right. Whether they ever came
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: to grips with that later on in life, I don't know.
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the psychology of them.
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: There's something called the banality of evil that you know,
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: people can be horrifically evil, and I don't think they
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: can ever be happy. I think they're tormented to some extent,
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: But how much I just don't know. I just don't know. Yeah,
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question that evasion on that scale
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: involves mutilating yourself in a way that you can never
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: be happy. To what extent that leads to nightmares or
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: torment or what is? I don't know the psychology of it.
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: Not you have a jogorhithm when your subconscious takes over.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: Is that still reason? For instance, when you play the
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: piano perfectly without consciously thinking about it, it's that still reason?
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: I think it is because it's based on your practicing,
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: it's based on you're thinking about it. It's based on
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: the work that you've done to get to that point.
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: It's not your emotion, it's not anti reason. It's you
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: have automatized through reason, You've automatized certain actions, and now
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: those actions can be done without thought. Maybe it's not really,
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: but it's not unreason put it that way. Not your
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: average algorithm. Again, thank you well. Also very generous today.
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: Is lying often appropriate to protect values but never to
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: gain a value? Well, it depends what you mean by often.
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: I don't know what often is it's lying up. Can
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: I lying be appropriate to protect values? Yes, but it
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: depends on the context. It has to be real. That
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: is that you're protecting them against the threat of force,
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: not just against a challenge or arrival, you know, a
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: non violent rival, but against force. Then you know the
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: classic the Nazi comes knocks in, you don't ask you
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: where your wife is, or you're hiding those Jews or whatever.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: Then it's appropriate, but it's never appropriate to gain a value.
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: That is true Clark. Do Americans look forward to and
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: like to work while Europeans resented? Although Europeans seem to
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: know how to connect better on an interpersonal level with
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: than Americans. I don't know if either. I don't know
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: if that's true, but yeah, I think generally as a statement,
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: I think again there are exceptions, and this is a
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: massive generalization. Americans have a much more positive you have
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: worked than Europeans do much more positive particularly but again
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Europeans whom Among Europeans, I think not all Europeans are
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: the same. The French ship particularly bad in this respect.
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: Probably the Scandinavia is pretty good in this respect. They
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: like they work, so it depends. But as a broad statement, yeah,
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: that's probably right. Europeans better at connecting. I don't know
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: if that's true. It depends which Europeans. Italians might be
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: better at connecting, but Scandinavia's and not particularly good at connecting.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: Europe is much more, you know, varied than America is.
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: The cultures are really different in different parts of you
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: so it's hard to generalize Clark. Fifty years from now,
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: I doubt objectives and will be the dominant philosophy in academia.
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: But will free market political parties be the norm? We
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: got a sense after Reagan things were moving in that direction.
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: Well maybe I don't think I never got a sense
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: that we were heading in that direction after Reagan, but
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: in America at least. But I do think that in
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: fifty years there will be significant pro free market political
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: parties in major countries around the world. Not sure which ones,
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: but major ones. Whereas now Melay is the only one
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: I can think of. Jimmy, please do your best to
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: characterize Israel's position at the start of the Iraq War.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: You have stated before that they opposed it. Correct me
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, But it looks like BB spoke in
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: front of Congress in favor of the war. I mean,
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: we'd have to look at the exact timeline. I mean
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: the wood Iraq was launched in two thousand and three. BB,
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: If I remember, right, was not prime Minister of Israel?
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: Who was Prime Minister of Israel in the beginning? You
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: are col I think it was Sean? Yeah, oh yeah,
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: Shoon was. He served until from March of two thousand
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: and one until April or twenty two thousand and six.
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: I don't think Sean supported the war. I think Sean
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: was opposed to it. Natsa Niel at the time was
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: not a significant player. And uh oh yeah, Sharon was.
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: He was the prime minister and a famous general, and
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: he was the one who forced Israel to retreat from
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: Gaza and basically abandoned Gaza and leave Gazin to the Gozens.
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: That didn't work out too well for Israel. But Shoon
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: it was against the one I walk. He believed the
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: enemy was I Wan, not I wok. Now, it's quite
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: possible that nitanao. Let's see bb BB test teammony in
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: Congress for he rock. Oh, that was September twenty twenty two,
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: before the war. But again, he was a private citizen.
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: He was not a member of dreaded government. He was
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: not certainly not prime minister, but he was not Defense minister.
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: It was not anything. He was a private citizen. I'm
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: not sure why he testified in front of Congress, but yeah,
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: he supported though. But Israel qua Israeli government believed at
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: the time that the real enemy was Iran, and that
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: Iran had link style Kaita and that Iraq didn't, and
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: is all thought that Iraq was a secular dictatorship that
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: was unrelated to what was going on a nine to eleven,
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: but that Iran was a real threat. I think they
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: were right. Evan, thank you for doing a show today
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: despite illing us. Thank you, Evan, appreciate the support. I
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: was googling the dates so and making sure who was
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: prime minister and who was a private citizen. But yeah,
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: you can you can definitely google see what answers you
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: get Michael, how would you compare Elon Musk to a
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos or Steve Jobs. I mean, look, it's really
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: hard to tell because I don't know having delved into it.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: But look, Elon Musk has one thing going for him,
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: and that is his unbelievable success with a variety of
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: different businesses and managing those businesses, being successful at those businesses,
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: and uh and launching businesses in a variety of different fields,
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: all based on strong engineering talent Tesla, SpaceX and and
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: I don't know the the the drilling company h. So
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: he is in that sense, you know, a bigger than
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: bet Us and Jobs. On the other hand, he also
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: spends a lot of time on things that he shouldn't,
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: like Twitter and politics, which he's not very good at,
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: which Jeff Bezous and Steve Jobs did not, which is
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: to their credit and to his detriment. I think it
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: only does his harm the more politically becomes Let's see
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: what else. I mean. The other thing is that in lundmask,
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: how would have Tesla done if not for government subsidies
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: and government kind of bailout in two thousand and nine,
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: Jeff Bezels and Steve Jobs never relied on government for
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: the stuff that they did. Uh Earn Musk's contracts are
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: all governed contracts with SpaceX ot set of bad things.
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: The only way to do space is governed contracts. But
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: it's just not the same. It's doesn't have the same
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: market impact, doesn't have the same impact on your quality
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: of life. Clearly, I think Jeff Bezels and Steve Jobs
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: impacted your life more. But they're all looked. They're all
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: productive geniuses, they're all amazing, spectacular businessman. Elarn Musk dabbles
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: in politics. That's too bad the others didn't. I think
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: that's the big difference. My favorite of those is Steve Jobs.
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: I think he of all of them, he was the
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: one who handled himself best and was the most you know,
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: visionary in a kind of real world kind of way,
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: not going to Mars, but changing all day to day
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: lives here on planet Earth. Michael, Americans are screwing up schools,
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: watching Tucker CAFs and Nick Foyntis and voting for Trump.
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: These are not happy people of self esteem, No they're not.
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: I mean, this is a country with a lot of
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: angst and a lot of distress, and a lot of
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: challenges and problems, and they have been misdiagnosed. Those challenges
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: and problems are be misdiagnosed, and the consequence of that
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: mistagnosis is that their Americans are lashing out at the
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: wrong people and embracing the wrong people. And I don't
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: see how that gets fixed anytime soon. Harpacambo, Why does
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: your Maazoni hate Kant? His nationalist protocol seems very Hegelian
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: and content. It's only Agalian. He hates Kant because he
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: believes that Kant led to this, to the world, the
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: secular world. I think he probably, I think he properly
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: identifies Kant as the source of kind of of this subjectivism,
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: them all relativism, and the the the kind of what
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: postmodernism ultimately became was a consequence he you know, I
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: think of Kant, and I think he's right about that.
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: I think he's right about diagnosing a lot of the
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: secular ills Marxism comes out of Kant. A lot of
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: the secular ills that befell the West he properly identifies
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: as coming from Kant. And I think, for some of
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: the right reasons and some for the wrong reasons, from
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: Hazoni's perspectives. So, and he's got a whole book, his
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: book on Israel I can't remember the name of the
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: book that he wrote in the nineties, which I read
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: and thought it was really good. I disagreed with a
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: lot of it. Thought it was really good in many respects.
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: Basically argued that Israel was, you know, defending itself, not
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: living up to its potential because of the influenced contad
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: on Israeli intellectuals. And I thought he was absolutely right
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: about it Selfie subscriber, thank you another twenty dollars stick.
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: I really appreciate that we only nineteen dollars away from
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: our goal. Happa Campbell. Does jerry mandarin even do anything.
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to stop Republicans from losing
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: the mid terms. Well, it very well could if it
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: was done on a large scale, on a scale large enough,
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: if you really could create i mean, just through the math,
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: if you could create districts that were, because of the
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: nature of the House of Representatives, most of the districts,
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: you know, jerry mandering could make districts that are purely
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: of one party and increase the influence of Republicans overall
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: in country. Through there you know the fact that they
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: have that they heavily concentrated in lots of different places.
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: You'd have to run the math on it, but it
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: can matter absolutely. It certainly will matter to the in
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: terms of how big the Democrats win the midterms or
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: how small it is. It will be affected by germinal ending.
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: If you know, if you take away House seats from
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: the Democrats and Republicans win those seats, then it makes
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: a difference. I like numbers. Craig Biddle posted that AOI
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: was smearing OSI on conference calls with students. Are their
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: rules for accruiting new students from rival organizations? I don't
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: know what those rules would be. I don't think anybody's
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: smearing the objective standard. If somebody is negatively evaluating them,
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: is that a smear? If I think somebody is not
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: a very good intellectual, is that a smear? Or is
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: that just my evaluation of somebody? So I don't know
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: what smearing means in this context. Smearing is not the issue.
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: The issue is was anybody on the call lying? But no,
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: I don't think there's any rules for recruiting new students
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: from rival organizations other than tell the truth. Don't lie,
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: don't deceive. It's like all human relationships. There's nothing special
- 1:39:27Speaker 1: about recruiting. Thomas work believes his work is good based
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: on his standards. If he's creating the standard, isn't that subjective?
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: How does he know he's a good architect. Well, he's
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: not creating the standard subjectively. He has to be able
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: to defend the standard. The standard is the standard architecture.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: The standard is is this does form meet function? Is
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: it functional for the purple people living in it? And
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: is it inspiring? And you know, he can defend the
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: standard and he can defend him meeting the standard. So
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: he has to be able to do both rationally objectively.
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: It's not like he randomly comes up with the standard
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: and then meets it. He rationally comes up with the standard.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: It has to meet. He has to live up to
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: the to reality and and and then he his architecture
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: meets that standard. But it's not a The standard is
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: not just him. The standard is a standard he can
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: articulate based on his based on his understanding of the world,
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: and he has to be able to convince make it objective.
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: I think he does. In the book okay Mon sulls
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: about for fifty dollars month. Mob reminds me of the
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: founding fathers of America. She was wealthy with a prestigious career.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: She risked everything to support the rebellion, even when she
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: had to do it alone. Too bad, she is fictional. Yep,
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: it is too bad. And of course, you know, I
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: guess she didn't realize she was just fighting the billionaires.
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: It's just a rebellion against the billionaires. She's just one
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: of those amchier communists fighting against the billions. No, I'm kidding,
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: that is AOC. Yes, she is a great character in
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: and and It is a great a really good TV series. Everybody,
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: you guys should watch it. I really enjoyed it. And
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: Maykatt said, salt the earth. He's talking about Gaza, uh crypto.
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: May one is International Labor Day. Why do so many
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: people believe the government have a duty to protect workers
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: from exploitation by employers? Well, because they believe that people
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: are generally stupid or unable to protect themselves, and it's
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: our responsibility. Is a good altruists to protect them and businessmen,
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: businesses who are in you know, obviously self interested. Self
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: interest leads always to exploitation. According to them will lead
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: to the exploitation of labor unless somebody protection. They need protection,
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: and that somebody has to be you indirectly, and the
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: way the way we facilitate that is through government. So
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: it's a consequence against altruism. It's it's a consequence of
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: this belief that you might of a particular view of
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: self interest which is placed on the businessman, and a
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: particular view of you have to protect people from being exploited.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: You do it through government, and that's why we all
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: vote for it. Id Miika war is not over until
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: the only song coming out of Gaza is catgirls singing
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: having aguila in Japanese. All right, Gail, thank you Ron
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: for your bravey for exposing the two horrors of October seventh.
- 1:43:18Speaker 1: You know, there's no bravery for my part. You know,
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: there's bravery of the people who wrote the reports to
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: put it all together, who went through all the documents.
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. It's too horrific of a task.
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: And who who you know went through the videos and
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: did it all. I'm just reading off of somebody else's reports.
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: They are the brave ones. So yeah, but I appreciate it. Gail,
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: thank you, Harrison. When I said that modern AI assimulating brains,
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: I mean it in a literal sense. They're neural networks
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: modeled after the way biological brains work. I don't think
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: that's true. I just don't think that's true, partially because
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: I know that we don't know exactly how brains work,
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: and their training consists of adjusting the connections between billions
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: of virtual nuances. It's not true. Again, that's not what
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: their training is, a step by step of instructions I e.
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: And algorithm needs no training a brain does. Though. It's
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: not being trained on neuon connections. It's being trained on text,
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: it's being trained on information, it's being trained on stuff. Right,
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: So no, I disagree with all of that. That's not
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: what It's not what AI is. It's not a neural
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: network in the sense of a brain, and even our brain.
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: We don't know how the new network works and how
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: exactly it functions, and how it creates consciousness and how
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: it does all the stuff that, So how can we
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: simulate something we don't really understand? I have to bring
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: an AI expert on to talk about this, and then
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: how is it trump folded? The Left may take Congress,
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: wouldn't the war and billionaires have happened much more in
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: earnest already if he'd lost in twenty twenty four. No,
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the more he does stupid,
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: ridiculous things, the more the left becomes further out there left,
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: the more he pushes the left left at the right
- 1:45:35Speaker 1: and left playoff of each other all the time. The
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: more woke the left becomes, the more crazy the right becomes,
- 1:45:42Speaker 1: the more crazy right becomes, the more socialist the left becomes.
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: And basically the left's going to take Congress because Trump
- 1:45:51Speaker 1: could have not done tariffs, actually won the warn Iran,
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: you know, done things that actually would raise his popularity
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: and actually not lose. He's created a mess, a disaster,
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: and cost of living is up. You know, the economy's
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: puttering along somehow, but it's not thriving, and the one
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: you run is not going anywhere. It just seems like
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: a mess. So Democrats are gonna win. They're not gonna
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: win on their own merits. They're gonna win as an
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: anti Trump vote. Just like Trump didn't win on his
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: own merits. He won on an anti Democrat vote. That's
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: all we have. We have anti anti it's do yet.
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: Richard Dawkins states Claude is conscious. That is astonishing. I
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: assume he has no understanding of consciousness. Said, yeah, I
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: mean I'm surprised Richard Dawkins would say that. But no,
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: I don't think Claude is conscious. It pretends to be
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: conscious really really well, but it's not conscious. All right,
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: we'll have to bring on a somebody who really knows
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: this AI stuff because it's only getting more complicated and
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: people are only going to be more confused by it.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: We'll have to do an interview about that soon. All right, guys,
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: thank you. I'm going to go rest. I will see
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: you all tomorrow, I hope, unless I decline if I'm better,
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: I will see you all tomorrow. And yeah, have a
- 1:47:34Speaker 1: great rest of your week. Oh thanks to the super chatters.
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: You are all great today and super generous, so really
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Bye everybody,