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- Lucas: So today I want to talk about a side hustle that sits right at the intersection of industry knowledge and consumer frustration — claims advocacy. Luna: Claims advocacy — as in helping people fight their insurance company? Lucas: Exactly. And the story I want to anchor on is Maria — she's a part-time insurance agent in Ohio who built a $5,000 monthly side hustle doing exactly that. She calls herself a 'policyholder advocate.' Luna: How does that not conflict with her day job? She's literally an agent for an insurance company. Lucas: That is the central tension. And Maria navigated it carefully. She works as a captive agent for a regional carrier — sells auto and home policies. But her side hustle is strictly post-sale: she helps policyholders — including people who bought from other carriers — navigate the claims process. She's not selling anything. She's advocating. Luna: So she's basically the person you call when the adjuster lowballs you. Lucas: Right. And there's a real market for that. The insurance industry is opaque — policy language is dense, adjusters have targets, and the average person doesn't know what a 'replacement cost value' clause means or when to push back on a depreciation deduction. Maria charges a flat fee — $500 for a residential property claim review, $250 for an auto claim review — and she takes a 10 percent contingency on any additional money she recovers above the initial offer. Luna: Contingency — so she only gets paid if she gets you more money. That's a strong incentive. Lucas: And it's transparent. She discloses her fee structure upfront in a one-page agreement. She also requires the client to sign a waiver acknowledging that she's not a public adjuster — which is a regulated title in many states — and that she's acting as a consultant, not a licensed adjuster. That distinction matters. Luna: Right, because public adjusters have different licensing requirements and a different legal relationship with the insurer. Lucas: Exactly. Maria made a point of consulting an attorney before she started. She wanted to make sure she wasn't accidentally practicing as a public adjuster without a license. In Ohio, as long as she's not negotiating directly with the insurer on the client's behalf — she's advising the client, who then negotiates — she's in the clear. Luna: So she's like a coach, not a boxer. Lucas: Perfect analogy. And that's actually a growing niche. I've seen similar models pop up for health insurance claims, life insurance beneficiary disputes, even long-term care claims. The common thread is that people feel outmatched when dealing with a large institution that processes thousands of claims a day. Luna: Let's talk about how Maria actually found clients. She's a captive agent — she can't exactly put a sign on her desk saying 'I'll help you fight our claims department.' Lucas: She built her side hustle entirely outside her day job's territory. She targeted a Facebook group for homeowners in a neighboring county — a group where people frequently posted about claim denials or low settlements. She started by just commenting with helpful information — 'here's what a depreciation schedule looks like, here's how to request a copy of your adjuster's estimate.' She didn't pitch her services. Luna: So she established credibility first. Lucas: Exactly. After about three months of consistent, free advice, people started DMing her asking if she could look at their specific case. That's when she introduced her fee structure. Her first client was a woman whose roof claim was denied due to 'pre-existing wear and tear.' Maria reviewed the policy and found that the wear and tear exclusion only applied to cosmetic damage, not functional damage. She helped the client write a formal appeal, citing the exact policy language. The insurer reversed the denial and paid out $8,700. Maria's contingency was $870. Luna: That's a great proof of concept. And from there she got referrals. Lucas: Referrals and word of mouth. She now has a small website — no mention of her day job — and a Google Voice number. She does everything via email and Zoom. She averages about 10 clients a month, and her monthly revenue is around $5,000. She works maybe 15 hours a week on it. Luna: Fifteen hours a week on top of a full-time job. That's intense. Lucas: She admits it was brutal at first. She spent a lot of weekend time building her knowledge base — reading policy contracts, taking online courses on claims handling, even shadowing a public adjuster for a few weeks. But now she's efficient. She has templates for appeal letters, a checklist for document review, and a standard set of questions she asks every client. Luna: Let's talk about the ethics of this. She works for an insurance company during the day. Doesn't that create a conflict? Lucas: It could, which is why she's meticulous about boundaries. She never takes on a client whose policy is with her employer. She doesn't use any proprietary information from her day job — her advice is based on publicly available policy language and general industry knowledge. And she cleared the side hustle with her manager, who was surprisingly supportive. The manager saw it as a way for Maria to deepen her understanding of claims, which could make her a better agent. Luna: That's a refreshingly adult response. Most companies would have a blanket non-moonlighting clause. Lucas: Many do. But Maria's employer — a midsize mutual insurer — doesn't prohibit outside work as long as it doesn't compete with the company or use its resources. Maria's side hustle doesn't compete because she's not selling insurance, and she's not advising on claims against her own company. It's a gray area, but she operates in the light. Luna: I think there's a bigger lesson here about leveraging your professional expertise in a way that serves a different audience. Maria isn't doing something radically different from her day job — she's using the same knowledge, just on the other side of the table. Lucas: That's the sweet spot for a lot of side hustles. You don't have to learn a whole new skill set. You just need to find a gap in how your existing skills are applied. For Maria, the gap was that insurance agents typically sell policies but don't help with claims. Claims are handled by a separate department. So there was an unmet need for someone who understood the system and could translate it for the policyholder. Luna: And that insight — that the industry is structured to separate sales from service — is exactly why her side hustle works. Lucas: One thing that struck me is that Maria initially worried she'd run out of clients. But she found that repeat business is actually common — not because people have multiple claims, but because they refer her to friends and family. She now gets about half her clients from referrals. And she's started a small newsletter — monthly tips on how to document your home inventory, how to read your policy declarations page, that kind of thing. Luna: That builds a community. And it keeps her top of mind when someone has a claim. Lucas: Exactly. She's essentially built a micro-brand. And the beauty is, she can scale it without quitting her day job. She's capped her client load at 15 per month because she doesn't want it to affect her primary income. She's making an extra $60,000 a year from this, which is nearly half her agent salary. Luna: That's life-changing money for a lot of people. And it's not scaling a startup — it's just smart, ethical consulting. Lucas: Right. And that's really the spirit of this show. We're always looking for models that are replicable without requiring a huge upfront investment. Maria's investment was maybe $200 for the website and the attorney consultation. Everything else was her time and expertise. Luna: Speaking of time — this is a good moment to mention that we keep this show ad-free because we believe practical career advice should be accessible without commercials. If you've gotten value from episodes like this, and you want to support that choice, you can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, just a way to keep the lights on. Lucas: Appreciate that. And that support really does help us keep doing deep dives like this one. So, back to Maria — one of the most interesting things she told me was about the mistake she made early on. Luna: What was it? Lucas: She took on a client whose claim involved a fire loss. The policy had a clause about 'vacancy' — if the home was vacant for more than 60 days, coverage for fire was limited. The client had been traveling. Maria didn't catch the vacancy clause. The insurer denied the claim, and the client blamed her. She ended up refunding the fee out of pocket to avoid a bad review. Luna: Ouch. So she learned to check the occupancy status first. Lucas: She built a pre-screening checklist after that. She now asks every client: Is the property your primary residence? How long have you been away? Any recent renovations? Any prior claims? She says that mistake cost her about $500 but saved her thousands in future headaches. Luna: It's a good reminder that side hustles in regulated industries require constant learning. One oversight can damage your reputation fast. Lucas: Absolutely. But Maria's story shows that if you're careful, transparent, and genuinely helpful, there's a real opportunity. Claims advocacy is a niche that will only grow as insurance policies get more complex and consumers get more frustrated. Luna: And it's a model that could work in other industries too— think real estate, healthcare billing, even telecom contracts. Anywhere there's a knowledge gap between the provider and the consumer. Lucas: That's a great takeaway. If you have expertise in a complex industry, ask yourself: who is underserved? Who needs a translator? That's where the side hustle lives.