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- 0:25Speaker 1: Good eating everybody walking on to this a little sports
- 0:27Speaker 1: and changes. If you missed that first little boy, I
- 0:29Speaker 1: messed it rock Mike. I spared Mike Kelly from that
- 0:33Speaker 1: one because we talked about wife in North Korea of
- 0:36Speaker 1: Marvin Powell stood his ground dealing with that stuff, and
- 0:39Speaker 1: in Candy and I all right, let's get to a
- 0:40Speaker 1: rapid fire show. Mike's gotta get out of here in
- 0:42Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. I can't talk fast than fifteen seconds a
- 0:45Speaker 1: minute or twenty seconds three or whatever.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Good lord, you're gonna have an aneurysm breathe, Who cares?
- 0:54Speaker 3: How do you guys do?
- 0:54Speaker 4: I got eight people that might care anyway, and they're
- 0:57Speaker 4: on this panel. All right. Anyways, we got to have
- 1:00Speaker 4: Kelly back.
- 1:00Speaker 1: We'll take him fifteen twenty minutes on given night, it
- 1:02Speaker 1: don't matter, Cliff Way, Kenny, we have Marvin Paul, have
- 1:07Speaker 1: Mike Kelly, we have Marky Bilson, we have Tom chen
- 1:11Speaker 1: And and we have Tony Bestimer City. Tony, the next
- 1:14Speaker 1: time you come out here, you better put Bestomer City
- 1:17Speaker 1: next to your knack, because this guy threw a curve
- 1:19Speaker 1: ball at me that had me going out there and
- 1:23Speaker 1: flying all the way to Iceland or Greenland. All right,
- 1:28Speaker 1: let's get to it, all right, rapid fire with mister
- 1:30Speaker 1: Kelly Rapp and I'll tell you one thing, Marvin. Tell
- 1:33Speaker 1: Mike Kelly what rapid fire means with me.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Maron, it means get to it, Bud, that's it, all right?
- 1:41Speaker 4: All right, Kelly? You ready, you get and then I
- 1:45Speaker 4: hit everybody with the rest. All right, come here. Thoughts
- 1:47Speaker 4: about the passing of lou Hols.
- 1:50Speaker 6: Breaks my heart.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I went to a clinic in nineteen eighty something and
- 1:56Speaker 2: he gave He's gave me a saying that I lived
- 1:58Speaker 2: by the rest of my life. Successful people do the
- 2:02Speaker 2: things they don't like to do. I went back to
- 2:05Speaker 2: my office after that clinic, typed that on a sheet
- 2:07Speaker 2: of paper, framed it and kept it on my desk
- 2:09Speaker 2: the whole life.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So he had a big influence on me. Okay, next
- 2:13Speaker 1: topic for you. This guy's learning You guys think he'd
- 2:16Speaker 1: learned a rapid fire pretty good. I'll tell you I
- 2:18Speaker 1: drive under pressure.
- 2:19Speaker 7: Man.
- 2:19Speaker 1: That's my middle name. Forget about what Brian on the
- 2:21Speaker 1: middle of name on persil pressure is it?
- 2:23Speaker 7: Man?
- 2:24Speaker 4: Get there?
- 2:25Speaker 1: Okay. Next one that we didn't get around to last week,
- 2:27Speaker 1: micro get into it. This time, the Dodgers tack fenalty
- 2:30Speaker 1: for signing any more big free agencies offseason will be
- 2:33Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent. Guess what, by Annie Kyle Tucker,
- 2:37Speaker 1: it's eighty million after Texas, we are your thoughts about
- 2:40Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I got money to go out there and
- 2:42Speaker 1: print money, just like I hit pull with the question
- 2:44Speaker 1: about Mario Prestblaul. Give me your thoughts about the Dodgers
- 2:47Speaker 1: and the taxes.
- 2:49Speaker 2: My my biggest problem with Major League Baseball is that
- 2:51Speaker 2: they don't they don't have a true cap, and and
- 2:56Speaker 2: you've got teams that, like the Yankees the Dodgers, they
- 3:00Speaker 2: have wherewithal that other teams simply don't have, and they
- 3:03Speaker 2: buy championships. You know, I have a hard time with
- 3:07Speaker 2: that because I'm a baseball purist, you know, you know,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and I just uh, I find them. But but if
- 3:15Speaker 2: they got the money, they don't care.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Right.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Well, you're rapid fighters, so good. I might even hit
- 3:21Speaker 1: you with one or two part topic. Thanks everybody, and
- 3:24Speaker 1: be patient because you're gonna get hit with him next.
- 3:26Speaker 4: After this guy gets going.
- 3:27Speaker 1: All right, well, you know what, you were so happy
- 3:30Speaker 1: with that last topic? I hit you with last week
- 3:32Speaker 1: about the what was it the skiing and the McDonald's
- 3:35Speaker 1: business as it was right.
- 3:38Speaker 6: I don't remember.
- 3:39Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I'm trying to put a
- 3:42Speaker 2: football league together right now and my head is swimming
- 3:45Speaker 2: with everything that's going on.
- 3:47Speaker 1: We don't worry after this topic gets gonna swim a
- 3:49Speaker 1: heck of a lot worse than that I did last week,
- 3:51Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you something. Everybody swim and Ruins
- 3:54Speaker 1: Cube was actually you're not sports one that you're a
- 3:57Speaker 1: knight and Kandy if you want to research it time.
- 3:59Speaker 1: But I think this guy the figure this one out, okay,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and at least you guys, everybody, the rest of you
- 4:03Speaker 1: got a preview for what this guy's getting hit with. Now,
- 4:06Speaker 1: all right, ready, Mike, non you Rubens, you solved to
- 4:10Speaker 1: just zero point one o three second by a robot
- 4:13Speaker 1: built by part of those students, rubs two people. It
- 4:17Speaker 1: takes me nine million years saw that stupid thing. I'm
- 4:20Speaker 1: not a robot. I'm just a loud mouth loose What
- 4:23Speaker 1: do you think, Mike?
- 4:24Speaker 2: The beautiful thing about the Rubik's cuban kept a lot
- 4:27Speaker 2: of nerds quiet, and so it just let them go
- 4:29Speaker 2: ahead and play with that. So if a robot can
- 4:32Speaker 2: do it, you know that that's great. But in terms
- 4:36Speaker 2: of significance in the world, and I don't think it's
- 4:38Speaker 2: making it even a blimp on the.
- 4:40Speaker 4: Screen really seriously, really.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Okay, man, I looked at it once and said, yeah,
- 4:49Speaker 2: that looks like fun for somebody else, but not me.
- 4:52Speaker 1: See, Michael, what's gonna happen after this show is you're
- 4:54Speaker 1: gonna think this is a fact. That's fifteen minutes in
- 4:57Speaker 1: sports history watching him ramble off these topics. That's so
- 5:00Speaker 1: then politicians can tell lies. Okay, so there you go.
- 5:03Speaker 1: So anyways, here, let's sit you one with Bruce Arians.
- 5:05Speaker 1: I promise you that one right then? I okay, So
- 5:07Speaker 1: Bruce Arians says, and everybody absorbed. Okay. I tell my
- 5:11Speaker 1: coaches if you miss a reach title football game, football game,
- 5:16Speaker 1: excuse me, basketball game, I'll fire you. I missed a
- 5:20Speaker 1: lot of my son's games those years. Don't come back.
- 5:24Speaker 1: It means move move more to your children. This shows
- 5:28Speaker 1: you how bad my penmanship is. But so what when
- 5:31Speaker 1: I hear about guys more eloquent than you, I'm just saying,
- 5:36Speaker 1: what's that? I think Bruce was a little more eloquent
- 5:39Speaker 1: than you. Well, there's no question about that. There's way more.
- 5:43Speaker 1: I agree, It's okay, I had a lot to deal
- 5:48Speaker 1: with her. Okay, let me let me where did I forget? Okay,
- 5:50Speaker 1: let's I'm gonna go back there because you threw me
- 5:52Speaker 1: off my game something so okay, Yeah, but those years
- 5:58Speaker 1: don't come back. It means more to your children. When
- 6:00Speaker 1: I hear about guys sleeping in their office, I wonder
- 6:03Speaker 1: what the hell are they doing there the week? The
- 6:06Speaker 1: work will always be there, the kids won't. But guess
- 6:10Speaker 1: what Bruce arians all he did was in the Super
- 6:12Speaker 1: Bowl twenty twenty one. What are your thoughts knowing that
- 6:15Speaker 1: Bruce was a lot smoother than I am? At least
- 6:16Speaker 1: thats probably you'll take home of.
- 6:18Speaker 2: You know, my mother is eighty nine years old, and
- 6:22Speaker 2: she keeps pulling stuff out that she's kept.
- 6:25Speaker 6: Over my career the whole way through.
- 6:28Speaker 2: And she had a note with the logo of the
- 6:31Speaker 2: NFL team I was working for, and I said, I
- 6:34Speaker 2: said in my note that I'm working one hundred to
- 6:37Speaker 2: one hundred and ten hours a week.
- 6:39Speaker 6: Every week.
- 6:40Speaker 2: There's a stretch of thirty eight to forty three hours
- 6:43Speaker 2: straight that I don't get to sleep because I'm working
- 6:46Speaker 2: and I miss my wife and my kids. I don't
- 6:49Speaker 2: know if this is really worth it. And so I
- 6:52Speaker 2: worked for guys on the opposite end of what Bruce
- 6:55Speaker 2: arians is talking about. And I can remember we went
- 6:58Speaker 2: to training camp. I waited one ninety two. I coached
- 7:01Speaker 2: in the Pro Ball. At the end of the season,
- 7:03Speaker 2: I weighed two twenty two, so I put on thirty
- 7:06Speaker 2: pounds just eating to stay awake to do my job
- 7:09Speaker 2: in the National Football League when I was a head
- 7:13Speaker 2: college coach, if I had a radio show to do
- 7:15Speaker 2: or something, I'd come back into my office. If there
- 7:18Speaker 2: were coaches in the office and it was after ten
- 7:20Speaker 2: o'clock at night, I told them to go home because
- 7:22Speaker 2: there's a point of diminishing returns. And one of the
- 7:26Speaker 2: dumbest things that I've ever seen in my life is
- 7:29Speaker 2: that when I was working in the NFL, we had
- 7:31Speaker 2: a meeting at seven o'clock in the morning to make
- 7:34Speaker 2: corrections on the cards that were made the night before.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Because coaches were so tired, they made mistakes. So then
- 7:42Speaker 2: we would go over him in the morning and have
- 7:45Speaker 2: to wipe out things and redraw them.
- 7:47Speaker 6: And to me, that was just.
- 7:48Speaker 2: A complete and total waste of time. Go home, get
- 7:52Speaker 2: some sleep, come back fresh. But this staying in the
- 7:54Speaker 2: office all long, I did it in my life and
- 7:58Speaker 2: it's the dumbest thing I've ever done.
- 8:01Speaker 6: I'll be very transparent.
- 8:03Speaker 2: It started the demise of my marriage because I was
- 8:06Speaker 2: never home and my wife is in bed, and my
- 8:09Speaker 2: girls are in first and second grade and they're setting
- 8:12Speaker 2: the clock to come and give me a kiss at night.
- 8:14Speaker 2: They come in the room, I'm not there, and they're
- 8:17Speaker 2: crying and their mother, how come daddy doesn't like your
- 8:19Speaker 2: food anymore?
- 8:20Speaker 6: How come he doesn't eat with us? Where's daddy?
- 8:23Speaker 2: And all I was doing was trying to earn a living.
- 8:26Speaker 2: But I am I'm a Bruce Arians fan. If that's
- 8:30Speaker 2: his approach, and if you look at coach Signetti at
- 8:33Speaker 2: the University of Indiana right now, his approach is similar
- 8:36Speaker 2: to coach Arians. So that work in one hundred and
- 8:39Speaker 2: one hundred and ten hours during the week in the season,
- 8:43Speaker 2: I think is ridiculous and just I've lived through it,
- 8:48Speaker 2: so nobody's going to change my mind on it.
- 8:50Speaker 1: One last football topic, I want to get you and
- 8:52Speaker 1: then you can talk about your league, okay, and that's
- 8:55Speaker 1: this hurry, Crystibal went on record. It's only went on
- 8:59Speaker 1: records say we don't get in a negative recruiting, but
- 9:01Speaker 1: people always negative recruit against us. And that's fine because
- 9:06Speaker 1: we never take that personally. We just let it play out.
- 9:09Speaker 1: On recruiting the state of Florida, some talks about its velocity.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's easy for people to be negative.
- 9:16Speaker 2: That's the easiest thing to do is to try to
- 9:20Speaker 2: downplay somebody rather than play up your own program. And
- 9:23Speaker 2: if he can hold his head up high and talk
- 9:26Speaker 2: about the positives of coming to the you and what's
- 9:30Speaker 2: gonna the success rate that those young men are going
- 9:33Speaker 2: to have and the type of experience that they're going
- 9:35Speaker 2: to have, then that's the high road that he needs
- 9:38Speaker 2: to take. And let those other guys talk it out
- 9:41Speaker 2: and say what they want to say, because all it
- 9:45Speaker 2: is is noise, and if you listen to noise all
- 9:47Speaker 2: the time, you're not going to be very successful in
- 9:49Speaker 2: anything that you do. You know, people want to react
- 9:52Speaker 2: to stuff that's on the internet. I love that saying,
- 9:54Speaker 2: you know, reacting to things on the Internet is like
- 9:56Speaker 2: walking down the street and deciding to step in that
- 9:59Speaker 2: dog poop.
- 9:59Speaker 6: That's on the sidewalk there, walk around it, ignore it,
- 10:03Speaker 6: make sure that you're moving forward.
- 10:05Speaker 2: And uh, I'd rather go play for a guy that
- 10:07Speaker 2: was talking positive about his program rather than trying to
- 10:10Speaker 2: knock down somebody else's.
- 10:12Speaker 6: So I'll be with coach Crystal Ball on that one.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm on them all the way too. You
- 10:16Speaker 1: don't want to go out there and negative recruit focus
- 10:18Speaker 1: on and I work with Mario Cristoba, So d you
- 10:22Speaker 1: end up.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Getting then kids that are always looking at the negative
- 10:25Speaker 2: side of things. I want kids that are positively you know,
- 10:29Speaker 2: I want to make sure that when that fourth quarter
- 10:31Speaker 2: room comes around that they're positive things, not negative thinkers.
- 10:35Speaker 2: And if you're going to be a negative recruiter, you're
- 10:37Speaker 2: going to get negative kids.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Great point.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Lastly, you're gonna get out of here with I give
- 10:42Speaker 1: us an update on the Continental Football League.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Well, things are going pretty well. We're going to name
- 10:47Speaker 2: a fourth team in Texas. Uh, probably this weekend or
- 10:52Speaker 2: certainly by early next week. So now we're set with
- 10:55Speaker 2: four and four in the North and the South. I'm
- 10:58Speaker 2: excited about that. The coach is that we're attracting. We've
- 11:03Speaker 2: got Jerry Glanville is the defensive coordinator of the San
- 11:07Speaker 2: Antonio Toros.
- 11:11Speaker 6: Glanville's coaching in San Antonio.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Hol Mummy, the godfather of the air raid offense, is
- 11:16Speaker 2: going to be the head coach and managing partner of
- 11:18Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Capitals. Steve Kayser, who was the longtime CFL
- 11:24Speaker 2: and NFL coach in personnel man. He was the defensive
- 11:28Speaker 2: coordinator of the Chicago Bears when they won the eighty
- 11:32Speaker 2: five Super Bowl, and he most recently was the general
- 11:35Speaker 2: manager of the Michigan Panther in the USFL. He's taking
- 11:40Speaker 2: over the Michigan Arrows, which again is another revival of
- 11:44Speaker 2: the original Continental Football League.
- 11:46Speaker 6: So now we're set. Things are rolling along really well.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I had a meeting right before this one with all
- 11:52Speaker 2: the head coaches, getting things straight so we understand what
- 11:56Speaker 2: our roster is. Talk to them about the rule chair
- 12:00Speaker 2: into the Continental shift that after the third quarter we
- 12:03Speaker 2: go into the fourth, we're going to play modified Canadian
- 12:05Speaker 2: Football League roles so that scouts from both leagues can
- 12:08Speaker 2: really get a good assessment of these kids' skill sets.
- 12:12Speaker 6: And we got it going.
- 12:14Speaker 2: So now it's just a matter of going out there,
- 12:17Speaker 2: you know, signing some more players running these camps and
- 12:21Speaker 2: uh and getting our sponsorship in line in each city.
- 12:26Speaker 2: But we're we're getting we're getting a stadium set and
- 12:29Speaker 2: and we're we're getting to that point now where we're
- 12:33Speaker 2: gonna be ready to roll by the end of May
- 12:34Speaker 2: to start playing games.
- 12:36Speaker 1: All right, two flutes that thought. I'm gonna get you
- 12:38Speaker 1: out of here on number one, Mike, and that's this
- 12:42Speaker 1: next week. When you come on Wednesday, we're going into
- 12:44Speaker 1: a little bit more information about Kzer. That'll be one
- 12:46Speaker 1: of the topics I'm gonna hit you with. Okay, when
- 12:48Speaker 1: you come on number two. Jerry Glanville is unbelievable when
- 12:53Speaker 1: the Georgia Dome opened up. Maky were you there when
- 12:55Speaker 1: the Georgia Dome was there?
- 12:56Speaker 3: How long you've been in that area since twenty ninth.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Well so you've been yeah, Okay, anyways, I covered the
- 13:04Speaker 1: game it to Georgia Jones and Jerry and I had
- 13:06Speaker 1: Detroit Times and Jerry Glanville gave me a one on
- 13:08Speaker 1: one interview back there. I love Jerry Glanville and this
- 13:11Speaker 1: guy been on every league on the planet. So all right,
- 13:13Speaker 1: last thing, Mike, ll everybody know they get hold you.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I know you gotta go. Am I at the fifteen
- 13:17Speaker 1: minute mark, Am I doing good?
- 13:19Speaker 6: You're doing good, We're perfect and we're right on point here.
- 13:22Speaker 6: Thank you?
- 13:22Speaker 4: Good well ll everybody.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Now I get hold you and then you can get going,
- 13:25Speaker 1: and then I can hit the rest of the group
- 13:27Speaker 1: a little bit more and right not talk, go ahead, floor.
- 13:32Speaker 6: Have some fun tonight, fellaws. I appreciate the time. Thank you.
- 13:35Speaker 1: How can you get a hold of you?
- 13:37Speaker 6: You can?
- 13:38Speaker 2: You can go to a coe flfootball dot com uh,
- 13:44Speaker 2: and that'll take you to the website that's getting reconstructed
- 13:47Speaker 2: right now, I believe. So you can go there and
- 13:50Speaker 2: click on the commissioner and you can send me an email.
- 13:53Speaker 2: But we're gonna be putting out a lot of stuff
- 13:56Speaker 2: here shortly, and just keep track of us, because we
- 14:00Speaker 2: we think we're addressing avoid that is not being addressed
- 14:05Speaker 2: by really going after all these kids that get lost
- 14:08Speaker 2: in the transfer portal and an them an opportunity to
- 14:11Speaker 2: continue to play.
- 14:12Speaker 1: All right, Michael, I'll get you out of here, but
- 14:14Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hopefully having you on next Wednesday.
- 14:16Speaker 1: It'll be fifteen minutes and at least I know how
- 14:18Speaker 1: to get to the fifteen minute. Earl, have a good night.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, by God bless, thank you, thank you.
- 14:22Speaker 1: You guys have a great night.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Care.
- 14:26Speaker 1: So now there are only seven. How about that. I
- 14:29Speaker 1: can talk faster. Now we're down to seven. I'll be
- 14:32Speaker 1: a few other ones to go home. All right, Marvin,
- 14:34Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with a couple of these topics.
- 14:36Speaker 1: I sent you a waiting on here, and I have
- 14:38Speaker 1: no particular order. I just have to make sure I
- 14:40Speaker 1: don't lose my place. Actually, you know what I'm gonna do.
- 14:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit Cliff Neil first. Okay, I'm gonna hang
- 14:44Speaker 1: with me. Okay, buddy, Okay, And that says Cliff. We're
- 14:47Speaker 1: gonna start off at the top. Okay, We're gonna start
- 14:49Speaker 1: off with the Bruce Arians topic, which I think is
- 14:52Speaker 1: a good topic. What are your thoughts about Bruce Arians
- 14:55Speaker 1: and his philosophy of doing things.
- 15:00Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not really sure he's gotten in He's he's
- 15:04Speaker 8: definitely he's a good track record of success, so, uh,
- 15:09Speaker 8: you know, we can't really blame him for, you know,
- 15:13Speaker 8: the way he does things. He's gotten to the top
- 15:17Speaker 8: of the uh of the of the league. He's one
- 15:21Speaker 8: of the premier croaches out there. So yeah, I'd say
- 15:24Speaker 8: I think I think he's right on track for what
- 15:26Speaker 8: he's been doing over the years.
- 15:29Speaker 4: Right, can't you go ahead?
- 15:31Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 15:31Speaker 7: I mean there is this saying that you can work
- 15:34Speaker 7: yourself to death and that's not worth it, you know,
- 15:37Speaker 7: missing some of your key moments. You know, their there
- 15:43Speaker 7: key moments in life that uh, you have to be
- 15:47Speaker 7: part of. And so I get not being at work
- 15:52Speaker 7: at midnight and getting up real early the next morning.
- 15:56Speaker 7: I also know that sometimes you's got to be a workaholic,
- 16:00Speaker 7: you know, and not everybody's the same. Some people are
- 16:03Speaker 7: very different. Some people can work late hours and are
- 16:06Speaker 7: better at night or better with you know. I think
- 16:10Speaker 7: you got to do what's right for you within obviously
- 16:15Speaker 7: your employer's realm.
- 16:18Speaker 9: So Tommy, that's what Don Coriole was known for at
- 16:25Speaker 9: San Diego and then Joe Gibbs, who played for corio
- 16:30Speaker 9: at San Diego State as well as coached with him
- 16:32Speaker 9: at San Diego State and then later with the Chargers,
- 16:35Speaker 9: was also famous for sleeping in his office.
- 16:38Speaker 10: So that's one.
- 16:42Speaker 11: But the other one that I always remember hearing is
- 16:44Speaker 11: Sean Salisbury. He used to always mock and scoff at
- 16:48Speaker 11: the idea the coaches had to spend all night. He
- 16:51Speaker 11: said they spend a lot of their time in their office,
- 16:54Speaker 11: reading the paper and eating donuts.
- 16:56Speaker 10: So yeah, so I don't know where the truth lies.
- 17:04Speaker 1: No one prove me in for a curve ball. Forget
- 17:06Speaker 1: about that best mercity. This guy here threw me at curveball.
- 17:09Speaker 1: He's the most straightest there on the planet. All right,
- 17:11Speaker 1: let me give you some information, Marvin. I have to say,
- 17:13Speaker 1: get this off my chest. Did you have a good
- 17:16Speaker 1: anniversary yesterday?
- 17:18Speaker 3: Good? Thank you nineteen years?
- 17:20Speaker 4: And what did you know? And where did you go? Martin?
- 17:22Speaker 4: Did you go to Buckhead? Where'd you go in Atlanta?
- 17:24Speaker 4: I know that area a little bit.
- 17:25Speaker 5: No, we went to Canton, wa Way, Canton, Georgia. It's
- 17:30Speaker 5: probably forty five minutes north of Atlanta. Okay, yeah they
- 17:34Speaker 5: have there's a nice resh nice restaurant out there that
- 17:37Speaker 5: we like. We said we did that.
- 17:40Speaker 1: So you know what, Marvin, I have to tell you
- 17:42Speaker 1: something here in front of a live audience. Okay, you know,
- 17:46Speaker 1: I have so much compassion for you and your anniversary.
- 17:49Speaker 1: You've number one. I let you people because ours aias
- 17:55Speaker 1: that topic motivated me get this guy at night. That's okay,
- 17:59Speaker 1: not kind of wouldn't have done it. But because you're
- 18:02Speaker 1: talking about it right now, Paul, what are you talked about?
- 18:04Speaker 6: What he's talking about?
- 18:05Speaker 3: And by way, sorry, thank you.
- 18:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I have I have friends and family who coach
- 18:13Speaker 5: in the NFL and in college, and all they talk
- 18:16Speaker 5: about is how they don't see their kids and how
- 18:19Speaker 5: crazy the schedule it is with the you know, in college,
- 18:22Speaker 5: with the recruiting, and then in the NFL. You know,
- 18:25Speaker 5: you have a lot of situations where these guys don't
- 18:28Speaker 5: even live in the same city as their family because
- 18:30Speaker 5: they move around so much as assistant coaches that they
- 18:33Speaker 5: don't want to uproot their kids everywhere. So now they're going,
- 18:36Speaker 5: you know, months at a time without seeing their kids.
- 18:38Speaker 5: And it's it's tough, man. I mean, listen, college and
- 18:41Speaker 5: especially in Power Forward, you know, college and pro these
- 18:43Speaker 5: guys are getting paid, so this this is what the
- 18:45Speaker 5: job is. I get that, but there's definitely a sacrifice.
- 18:49Speaker 5: Bruce arians you know, he definitely understands as somebody whose
- 18:52Speaker 5: kids are now older, and you know, it's it's tough, man,
- 18:57Speaker 5: it's a tough deal.
- 18:58Speaker 3: I get it.
- 18:58Speaker 1: So ah, good, I see give you a heavy anniversary.
- 19:03Speaker 1: I don't love you getting that night scaring to good stuff.
- 19:07Speaker 1: You deserve it, all right, marky am I loud enough tonight?
- 19:10Speaker 1: Or should I get louder?
- 19:12Speaker 12: A volume is fine?
- 19:13Speaker 13: Well, I am a former Steelers beat rider, but I
- 19:17Speaker 13: did not cover the Steelers and Bruce Arians was there. Nevertheless,
- 19:21Speaker 13: I am a Bruce Arians fan remembering his days with
- 19:25Speaker 13: the Steelers. But also I would suggest people one of
- 19:30Speaker 13: the things. And I think this is where the beginning
- 19:33Speaker 13: of the slow end really started for Mike Tomlin was
- 19:37Speaker 13: when Bruce Arians mysteriously retired as his coordinator there with
- 19:43Speaker 13: the Steelers. And then you know, it was quite a retirement.
- 19:47Speaker 13: He wound up becoming a head coach after that and
- 19:50Speaker 13: winning the Super Bowl. I've never heard of a retirement
- 19:54Speaker 13: that's successful in all that. So, uh, you know, I
- 19:58Speaker 13: think that the when when Bruce Arians left the Steelers,
- 20:02Speaker 13: that was the beginning of a slow end. As I said, again,
- 20:05Speaker 13: for Mike Tomlin, and I just look at this, I
- 20:10Speaker 13: do agree with his point. And speaking of another Steelers
- 20:16Speaker 13: coach that everyone will know, Chuck Nole. Back in the day,
- 20:19Speaker 13: I can recall this is the era when Joe Gibbs
- 20:22Speaker 13: was sleeping in the office with the Washington Redskins. The
- 20:25Speaker 13: Redskins were it was the eighties, the Redskins are winning,
- 20:28Speaker 13: the Steelers were living off past glories. And one of
- 20:32Speaker 13: the reporters asked a chuck nole of why don't you
- 20:35Speaker 13: sleep in the office, you know and all this, and
- 20:38Speaker 13: he said, well, you know, it's not like when I
- 20:41Speaker 13: go home, I don't think about the upcoming game. But
- 20:45Speaker 13: if there's really something that important to address, I just
- 20:49Speaker 13: come in early and.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Look at the film and all this.
- 20:53Speaker 13: It's completely possible that what a chuck Nole can accomplish
- 20:58Speaker 13: in let's say eight out it might take another coach
- 21:02Speaker 13: a ten or fourteen hours to do, or perhaps an
- 21:06Speaker 13: even more brilliant coach seven or six hours to do. So,
- 21:10Speaker 13: you know, the sleeping in the officer he talked about,
- 21:13Speaker 13: and all of this, it's quality work. It's not necessarily quantity.
- 21:17Speaker 13: And I love the Salesbury quote. I believe it very much.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Okay, Tony, what are your thoughts.
- 21:26Speaker 14: I think part of what happens with Bruce arians is
- 21:29Speaker 14: him coming in as an older coach and learning the
- 21:32Speaker 14: business and being somebody who was probably closer to players,
- 21:37Speaker 14: being a wide receiver coach, assistant coach for all that
- 21:40Speaker 14: time and seeing the burnout from being an assistant coach
- 21:44Speaker 14: and all that work. Because he didn't become a head
- 21:46Speaker 14: coach until he was sixty, so that gives him a
- 21:48Speaker 14: lot of time and different perspective with age and wisdom
- 21:51Speaker 14: of realizing the work life balance that it takes to
- 21:54Speaker 14: be good as a professional coach and athlete and everything
- 21:58Speaker 14: that has to do with that. Also, I don't know
- 22:02Speaker 14: when this quote was said or stated, but he did
- 22:04Speaker 14: deal with some health scares too, so that might have
- 22:06Speaker 14: something to do with it. Right, You don't want to
- 22:08Speaker 14: work yourself to death literally out here, so I know
- 22:11Speaker 14: that might have something to do with it as well.
- 22:13Speaker 14: But I think part of that just came with the
- 22:15Speaker 14: aging wisdom of him being somebody who was closer to
- 22:18Speaker 14: the situation and seeing these people get burnt out at
- 22:21Speaker 14: the lower levels of assistant coaches and realizing, hey, guys,
- 22:25Speaker 14: go home and spend some time with your family, because
- 22:28Speaker 14: time is the one thing we're not going.
- 22:29Speaker 6: To get back, you know.
- 22:31Speaker 1: So that's a great point. You know, Bruce arians did
- 22:33Speaker 1: have some health scares, and let's say the reality, I
- 22:37Speaker 1: mean that could have had for But the philosophy is
- 22:40Speaker 1: good anyways.
- 22:41Speaker 4: But you also have to factor your health in there
- 22:43Speaker 4: as well.
- 22:43Speaker 1: And I'm thankful that I have Candy to curtail a
- 22:48Speaker 1: lot of that, and she tries to kick it under
- 22:49Speaker 1: the troll as well as she can. Not the easiest
- 22:51Speaker 1: thing in the world to do, searching for a miracle. Well, no,
- 22:54Speaker 1: maybe some people need to search in for a candy,
- 22:57Speaker 1: but no, I can appreciate where Bruce arians and stuff.
- 23:00Speaker 1: So but it's a good point. Tony always leave some
- 23:04Speaker 1: good points. Let's go back to the crystal thing, Okay,
- 23:07Speaker 1: And that's sense. Obviously, I'm going to go back over
- 23:09Speaker 1: it because I know we went out there and I
- 23:12Speaker 1: went fast. I'm gonna go a little bit slower. Okay,
- 23:14Speaker 1: we don't get into negative recruiting, but people always are
- 23:17Speaker 1: negative recruit against us.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Everybody knows you don't want to.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Do negative recruiting at all, and he doesn't care about
- 23:23Speaker 1: whether you do or not. It's all right, Clifford. Your
- 23:25Speaker 1: thoughts about negative recruiting and the way Mario Chrystal seems
- 23:28Speaker 1: to handle that.
- 23:31Speaker 8: I really, uh, but really, I don't know.
- 23:36Speaker 3: It's you.
- 23:36Speaker 8: You're trying to do the best you can when when
- 23:39Speaker 8: you're doing that job trying to bring people in. I'm
- 23:44Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm not really a big fan of
- 23:47Speaker 8: negative recruiting, but you know, it's a they gotta do
- 23:52Speaker 8: what they got to do to put the best teams together.
- 23:55Speaker 8: So yeah, it's you know it's But for me, it's
- 23:59Speaker 8: it should be what the you know what that you
- 24:02Speaker 8: know what your organization brings, what what you bring to
- 24:05Speaker 8: the team.
- 24:06Speaker 1: For me, a you know what, Cliff is due to
- 24:09Speaker 1: the show, Cliff, do me a favorite. Give me about
- 24:11Speaker 1: thirty to forty five seconds. This guy's been a contributor
- 24:14Speaker 1: on us and he talks about hockey expansion. I want
- 24:16Speaker 1: Cliff to let everybody know on this panel what you do.
- 24:19Speaker 1: I think you work what Towson State or something like that. Yeah.
- 24:22Speaker 8: I'm currently a professor at Towsand University Department of Mass Communication.
- 24:27Speaker 8: I spent sixteen years behind the scenes and television news,
- 24:31Speaker 8: playing a lot of the stories over the years. Can
- 24:34Speaker 8: can't tell you many packages I put together, and now
- 24:37Speaker 8: I teach the kids who want to get into broadcast journalism,
- 24:41Speaker 8: journalism in general.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I love my job. It's you, Cliff, Cliff's gonna be
- 24:46Speaker 1: here every Wednesday night, people, So get used to him.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Cliff and I have been really good friends for a
- 24:50Speaker 1: long time. He critiques hockey expansion. I said, you had
- 24:52Speaker 1: come out on this, so you're gonna know a little
- 24:54Speaker 1: lot more about it. One night you can get to us.
- 24:56Speaker 1: So why not.
- 24:57Speaker 4: I'm here.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I make no bones about look us for the best
- 25:01Speaker 1: cotton pick and telling I can get.
- 25:02Speaker 4: I got seven six. I don't know what to call myself.
- 25:06Speaker 1: I don't want to be doing this forever, but six
- 25:09Speaker 1: pretty darn good people on the show. And we had
- 25:11Speaker 1: another one who was a thoroughbred who I gave the
- 25:14Speaker 1: fast and fifteen minutes I could come up with. So
- 25:16Speaker 1: I'm glad Clif's gonna be regular on the show. Get
- 25:18Speaker 1: used to this guy, all right, Kenny, some thoughts about
- 25:20Speaker 1: Crystal Well, we both know him all too well.
- 25:23Speaker 7: Mario Christopal talks a lot of times about the culture
- 25:26Speaker 7: that he's building at Miami, and how do you build
- 25:30Speaker 7: culture if you talk about negative about somebody, if you're
- 25:33Speaker 7: talking about some first of all, if you talk about
- 25:35Speaker 7: somebody else, whether you're talking negative or positive, you're talking
- 25:38Speaker 7: about somebody else. You want to talk about your program
- 25:41Speaker 7: and what your program benefits the recruit that you're talking
- 25:47Speaker 7: to or the parents of the recruit that you're talking to.
- 25:50Speaker 7: You want to talk up your program. You want to
- 25:52Speaker 7: talk about why they want to come to your program,
- 25:56Speaker 7: why they want to come to Florida, why they want
- 25:59Speaker 7: to come to Miami, why do they want to be
- 26:01Speaker 7: coached by Jason Taylor, or what does your program have
- 26:06Speaker 7: to do. How many of your recruits have gone on
- 26:08Speaker 7: in the NFL. You want to talk up your program.
- 26:14Speaker 7: I'm all about positivity and not talking about anybody else's
- 26:20Speaker 7: your competitor. I do the same in my job because,
- 26:24Speaker 7: to be honest with you, you don't know all the ins
- 26:27Speaker 7: and outs of another program. You know the ins and
- 26:30Speaker 7: outs of your the program. You're the expert. Tell everybody
- 26:34Speaker 7: why they should come to you and your program. I
- 26:38Speaker 7: like that about Mario. I think he really has changed
- 26:42Speaker 7: the culture down there and it's for the better.
- 26:46Speaker 11: Tommy Well, negative recruiting, I think is part is part
- 26:51Speaker 11: of part of the game because of human nature. You
- 26:54Speaker 11: just can't at a lot of people that are that way,
- 26:59Speaker 11: that can only say bad things about other people. But
- 27:02Speaker 11: the other side of that coin is that you gotta
- 27:05Speaker 11: be you got to have, so to speak, a war
- 27:08Speaker 11: room to be able to respond to negative recruiting.
- 27:10Speaker 10: I'm sure a lot of coaches.
- 27:13Speaker 11: Tell Miami the mom of Miami recruits that if their
- 27:19Speaker 11: kid goes to Miami, they're going to spend up all
- 27:21Speaker 11: their time on South Beach. So you got to be
- 27:24Speaker 11: if you're Mario christ Fall, you got to be prepared
- 27:27Speaker 11: to counter those kind of comments.
- 27:31Speaker 5: Margaret, Yeah, I think you know it speaks to this insecurity,
- 27:36Speaker 5: you know. I mean, I've been recruited before, first time
- 27:40Speaker 5: was in football, and you know, I think if somebody,
- 27:44Speaker 5: if a coach comes to me and telling me that
- 27:46Speaker 5: this other school is this, and that my thing is,
- 27:49Speaker 5: why aren't you just focused on you and what you have,
- 27:51Speaker 5: your blessings and how great this is going to be me?
- 27:54Speaker 5: You know, I think when you feel the room for
- 27:55Speaker 5: the negative energy, I think it's just you know, it
- 27:58Speaker 5: says a lot, you know what I mean, So I
- 27:59Speaker 5: have pre shape Meryl Chris of Ball's approach to it.
- 28:02Speaker 5: I think he's right, dude. If I'm the head coach
- 28:03Speaker 5: of Miami, I wouldn't even waste my time talking about
- 28:07Speaker 5: any other program unless he was USC of course, you know,
- 28:11Speaker 5: but it's it's all good.
- 28:12Speaker 3: I get it. You know. I'm happy he's that way.
- 28:15Speaker 3: And I've always liked Mario.
- 28:16Speaker 5: I think he's a high caliber dude, and I think
- 28:18Speaker 5: he's remained that through his coaching career.
- 28:22Speaker 4: No question of blom are great stuff.
- 28:24Speaker 13: Okay, marky oh very famously years ago, when Bo Jackson
- 28:29Speaker 13: was being recruited by both Alabama and Auburn, he famously
- 28:32Speaker 13: said he went to Auburn, who at the time was
- 28:35Speaker 13: adding a long losing streak to Alabama. And the reason
- 28:38Speaker 13: why is the Alabama recruiter said, hey, if you go there,
- 28:41Speaker 13: you know you'll never beat us. Turned out, in his
- 28:44Speaker 13: freshman year, Bo Jackson, with two minutes left, scored the
- 28:46Speaker 13: winning touchdown in Bear Bryant's last loss at Alabama, So
- 28:51Speaker 13: you know, and Jackson always said that, you know, that
- 28:55Speaker 13: was what pushed me over to Auburn, you know, when
- 28:57Speaker 13: they said when they gave me that. So so sometimes
- 29:00Speaker 13: the negative recruiting in that situation hurts. Of course, you
- 29:04Speaker 13: want to promote your own team, and I've always said that,
- 29:09Speaker 13: I don't care where you coach, You've got to have
- 29:13Speaker 13: something that can go to any recruit and say why
- 29:18Speaker 13: your program is the greatest there is. I don't care
- 29:21Speaker 13: if you're the football coach at Virginia Military. You've got
- 29:25Speaker 13: to the sleep you get in the barracks, sold me
- 29:27Speaker 13: the best you have in your life. They don't have
- 29:30Speaker 13: much to recruit there, but come up with something, you
- 29:33Speaker 13: know and all that. So I get exactly what Crystal
- 29:37Speaker 13: Baul is saying. But I would like to throw this caveat.
- 29:40Speaker 13: Of course, one would want to publicize Miami.
- 29:45Speaker 12: Why wouldn't you?
- 29:46Speaker 1: They were the.
- 29:47Speaker 13: National runner up last year. That's tremendous. You know, you
- 29:51Speaker 13: have tremendous positive work. But I got to tell you,
- 29:55Speaker 13: if I was a recruiter, and I know what I
- 29:57Speaker 13: just said about bo Jackson, if I had heard that
- 30:00Speaker 13: her recruit was considering me or Florida State, I think
- 30:05Speaker 13: I might just say something, Hey, why would you want
- 30:08Speaker 13: to go there?
- 30:09Speaker 3: There?
- 30:09Speaker 13: Yesterday's program, we're number two in the nation on the
- 30:12Speaker 13: custom being and we'll be number one with you. And
- 30:16Speaker 13: if it's that negative recruiting, possibly, But you know, I
- 30:21Speaker 13: think you can also see where that promotes what you're
- 30:24Speaker 13: doing at Miami as well and saying why you're the
- 30:28Speaker 13: best program out there?
- 30:32Speaker 1: All right?
- 30:32Speaker 12: Toty I'm not mad at that marquee.
- 30:37Speaker 14: I kind of I feel that, Hey, if it's US
- 30:40Speaker 14: or Florida State as a Miami lan, I.
- 30:43Speaker 12: Might I might talk a little joke about Florida State,
- 30:46Speaker 12: but it's funny Mario.
- 30:47Speaker 14: Chris Baul won't say anything negatively recruiting, but if it's
- 30:52Speaker 14: at a banquet, he has plenty to say. I don't
- 30:54Speaker 14: know if you guys saw the Kirby Smart saying that
- 30:57Speaker 14: this is what Carson Bank looks like. We're good co
- 31:00Speaker 14: So he has plenty of jokes and he knows how
- 31:03Speaker 14: to put his jabs and shots out.
- 31:05Speaker 12: But I respect it.
- 31:08Speaker 14: Miami has enough good going on where they don't have
- 31:10Speaker 14: to talk about nobody else's bad. Like you say they're
- 31:13Speaker 14: their national runner up. You have Malakai Tony, you have
- 31:17Speaker 14: good players. He's recruiting in house, and you can tell
- 31:20Speaker 14: Miami if you're somebody. If I'm gonna talk negatively about
- 31:24Speaker 14: certain places, other schools other than Southern California.
- 31:29Speaker 12: I can say anything.
- 31:31Speaker 14: Hey, you want to be in Ohio State cold freezing
- 31:35Speaker 14: snowing in November.
- 31:36Speaker 12: Are you trying to come down in Miami and play
- 31:38Speaker 12: where it's not warm? A seventy degrees.
- 31:40Speaker 14: All right, that'll be my negative recruiting for everybody in
- 31:43Speaker 14: the Northeast or anywhere in the Midwest. But other than that, man,
- 31:46Speaker 14: you got enough good stuff going on in Miami.
- 31:49Speaker 1: Okay, one new segment I'm gonna introduce next week until
- 31:51Speaker 1: the Draft. I hope everybody pan attention because you're going
- 31:54Speaker 1: to be expected to critique it. I got a lot
- 31:56Speaker 1: of interviews over the Senior Bowl, Okay, everybody, and I'm
- 31:59Speaker 1: gonna go out there and find one that we can
- 32:00Speaker 1: all talk about critique because the drafts coming up. Marvin,
- 32:04Speaker 1: you and I have already talked about this with Mel
- 32:06Speaker 1: and Candy. There won't be a Saturday inside the Pigskin, Okay.
- 32:10Speaker 1: And I'm saying it right now in advance so we
- 32:12Speaker 1: can promote it early. Right, And we're gonna talk about
- 32:15Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Okay. And I got some guys, and
- 32:18Speaker 1: I really cleaned up big time over to Senior Bowl.
- 32:21Speaker 1: I don't know how many people on this panel have
- 32:23Speaker 1: gone out there and covered the Senior Bowl, but for me,
- 32:26Speaker 1: that was like Thanksgiving feast, except that I didn't care
- 32:29Speaker 1: about the virus like having to watch it thirty four
- 32:31Speaker 1: degrees in Alabama that sidelined me for a while. The
- 32:34Speaker 1: one thing that can slow me down, that's the virus
- 32:36Speaker 1: and thirty four degrees. And so I hope everybody I'll
- 32:40Speaker 1: come up with a pretty good quote and everybody will can't.
- 32:42Speaker 1: We'll probably be in there two or three minutes, and
- 32:44Speaker 1: everybody have an opportunity to talk about any questions are coming.
- 32:47Speaker 4: You're looking forward to.
- 32:48Speaker 1: It, hope, So Tommy, if you don't mind coming on
- 32:51Speaker 1: next week, then obviously for a few minutes. Anyway, sometimes
- 32:54Speaker 1: I those I'll live in like ten to fifteen minutes.
- 32:56Speaker 1: I'll sound to listen to it because and that will
- 32:59Speaker 1: give you some information and that's all I need from
- 33:01Speaker 1: here and there. How does that sound, Timmy? Okay, good,
- 33:04Speaker 1: all right, let's keep this show going here. I want
- 33:06Speaker 1: to wish a happy idioth birthday to my best friend
- 33:11Speaker 1: in sports media. Ever heard of Bob Ryan, Margaret, if
- 33:13Speaker 1: you ever heard Bob Ryan, I have, yes, good great stuff.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Anybody else heard.
- 33:18Speaker 1: Of Bob Ryan?
- 33:20Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, Well.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Tommy, you should. I mean the guy goes to an
- 33:25Speaker 1: SMA a lot, right, Okay, great stuff. But anyways, Happy
- 33:28Speaker 1: eightieth birthday to Bob Ryan. He's retired from the Boston Globe.
- 33:33Speaker 1: He's a mentor of mine anyways, and much more. You
- 33:37Speaker 1: won't meet a classier individual in this business. If you
- 33:41Speaker 1: don't know much about him, look him up on Google. Cliff,
- 33:45Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about Bob Ryan.
- 33:49Speaker 8: He's been one of the best sports journalists out there
- 33:52Speaker 8: for a long long time, covering Boston and sports in general.
- 33:57Speaker 8: I just always like listening. Even winning's on TV covered
- 34:00Speaker 8: is just top notch. He has such great insights. It's
- 34:04Speaker 8: just he knows. He seems to know everything about everything sports,
- 34:08Speaker 8: and it's it's just a pleasure to listen on his analysis.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Candy, some thoughts about Bob.
- 34:17Speaker 7: You know, I've listened to him. I've also listened to
- 34:20Speaker 7: you interview him a couple of different times over at
- 34:25Speaker 7: n SMA. You did live shows with him, or actually,
- 34:29Speaker 7: take it back, it wasn't a live show. We recorded
- 34:33Speaker 7: it and then publicized it. But you know, he's written
- 34:38Speaker 7: about numerous numerous sports. He's covered a lot of Boston's
- 34:44Speaker 7: you know sports for sure, but very well accomplished sports writer.
- 34:53Speaker 4: Well, I here's the thing with Bob.
- 34:54Speaker 1: I did something when he had a book signing over
- 34:57Speaker 1: and I think it was Winston Salem and then I
- 34:59Speaker 1: got him from on one get this at people less
- 35:01Speaker 1: about two hours and he didn't care. We just had
- 35:03Speaker 1: a last talking all right, Tommy, you know Bob probably
- 35:06Speaker 1: well enough. Well you obviously both work with him over
- 35:09Speaker 1: at in North Carolina. Some talks about him.
- 35:12Speaker 10: Yeah, Bob is one of the legends. He wrote a
- 35:15Speaker 10: book called Scribe.
- 35:16Speaker 11: It's very good for anyone who's pondering and going for
- 35:21Speaker 11: any kid pondering going into sports, writing about his life
- 35:26Speaker 11: and the lessons he learned and how to conduct yourself
- 35:32Speaker 11: as a sports writer. He is still very active on
- 35:36Speaker 11: Twitter and I enjoyed reading his comments. He goes apop electic.
- 35:43Speaker 11: Anytime somebody born put's comment up there about great winners
- 35:50Speaker 11: in basketball, they don't mention Bill Russell.
- 35:55Speaker 10: You don't go on a tie ride about that. Nobody
- 35:59Speaker 10: Bill Russell.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Well, he's mister a Boston Celtics and he's Boston sports
- 36:03Speaker 1: and every sense of the work for sure.
- 36:05Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 36:06Speaker 10: I mean also, Russell went back to back in Sea titles.
- 36:10Speaker 11: He won an Olympic gold medal, and then he won
- 36:12Speaker 11: all those nine out of eleven is it eleven out
- 36:15Speaker 11: of thirteen?
- 36:15Speaker 10: I forget what it is with the Celtics.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what can I say Bob Ryan and
- 36:22Speaker 1: me is a mentor and a friend and if I
- 36:25Speaker 1: ever needed to contact her for advice, he'd be there
- 36:27Speaker 1: that past.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Margaret Glad, what do you think about Bob Yeah, I
- 36:30Speaker 5: mean listen, just as a sports nut my whole life,
- 36:34Speaker 5: Bob Ryan is somebody who I've obviously seen countless times
- 36:38Speaker 5: covering different sports. He's somebody who I think is always
- 36:41Speaker 5: on point, has a great perspective, creates a great narrative
- 36:45Speaker 5: for the game, and I mean he's just a legend,
- 36:48Speaker 5: I living legend.
- 36:51Speaker 13: Marky Well, I will just say this about Bob Ryan
- 36:57Speaker 13: gave me one of the great honors of my career.
- 37:01Speaker 13: And just to say this years ago and probably the
- 37:04Speaker 13: article I'm best known for, my most famous one was
- 37:07Speaker 13: when I wrote for SI dot com if you remember that,
- 37:11Speaker 13: a piece questioning why Howard Cosell has never won the
- 37:15Speaker 13: Pete Roselle Award, which is given to football broadcasters. This
- 37:19Speaker 13: got picked up by a lot of national sources, but
- 37:22Speaker 13: at the time, Bob Ryan was filling in as the
- 37:25Speaker 13: morning host on WEI.
- 37:28Speaker 4: What do you think?
- 37:29Speaker 13: The next day he was talking about at the nine
- 37:32Speaker 13: o'clock hour. That's an honor when Bob Ryan is giving
- 37:38Speaker 13: you a shout out for your work and talking about
- 37:42Speaker 13: the piece that you just did. So Tony Corneiser called
- 37:46Speaker 13: him the quintessential American sports writer. When the quintessential American
- 37:50Speaker 13: sports writer is talking about your work, what could be
- 37:55Speaker 13: a greater honor?
- 37:58Speaker 1: All right, Tony?
- 38:00Speaker 14: Yeah, man, I just when I think of Bob Ryan,
- 38:03Speaker 14: I think of being young. I'm talking like real young,
- 38:06Speaker 14: at least for me, looking up at the TV and
- 38:09Speaker 14: watching sports reporters on Sundays and realizing like, those are
- 38:12Speaker 14: the big dogs when it comes to sports reporting, or
- 38:15Speaker 14: those are the guys that writers aspire to be, you know.
- 38:19Speaker 14: And to see his longevity and him guest starring on PTI,
- 38:24Speaker 14: Around the Horn, all that stuff, that's how how I
- 38:27Speaker 14: know Bob Ryan. And yeah, man, he's a huge part
- 38:29Speaker 14: of my sports life as a kid growing up watching
- 38:31Speaker 14: sports and how to how to be on TV prepare
- 38:35Speaker 14: me for this?
- 38:39Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I always mentioned in that book,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and for those of you haven't, Candy will tell you
- 38:44Speaker 1: in a few minutes how to get it. Those are
- 38:46Speaker 1: the you that do have it. The one thing I've
- 38:48Speaker 1: tried to teach a lot of the people that I've
- 38:50Speaker 1: really mentored and taught wherever they're at is you have
- 38:55Speaker 1: to go out there and critique your own shows because
- 38:59Speaker 1: you want to know maybe assays them. But I'm not
- 39:02Speaker 1: telling people when they do this or analyze themself. We're
- 39:05Speaker 1: not asking you to go crazy. You know how many
- 39:07Speaker 1: times Marky have you had to critique your own shows.
- 39:09Speaker 1: It isn't about beating yourself up right, It's just about
- 39:12Speaker 1: saying okay, because that's not what it's about. I can't.
- 39:17Speaker 1: I'm not here to critique everybody. I critique myself. I'm
- 39:20Speaker 1: harder on anybody else in myself. How do you approach this.
- 39:25Speaker 6: Good?
- 39:26Speaker 13: Quite Yeah, listening and learning? Uh, you know China sit boy,
- 39:31Speaker 13: I hate that, or I wasn't that direct or went
- 39:34Speaker 13: into something, you know, I think you're just listening and analyzing.
- 39:38Speaker 13: Is one of the ways that I would do self
- 39:41Speaker 13: critique and such, and when writing, one of the things
- 39:45Speaker 13: I do with my podcast, I try to keep the
- 39:48Speaker 13: sixty seconds. Many times it's just a matter of Okay,
- 39:51Speaker 13: you've got to cut this down. You've got to and
- 39:53Speaker 13: that in its own way is a critique. But yeah,
- 39:58Speaker 13: sometimes I look back at the stuff that I I
- 40:00Speaker 13: did at the beginning of my career, and boy, I thought,
- 40:02Speaker 13: I was you know the caps me now back then
- 40:05Speaker 13: and you said boring. I've improved since that time that
- 40:09Speaker 13: sort of thing, so, uh, you know, but I think
- 40:13Speaker 13: just reviewing what you've done is the best self for
- 40:16Speaker 13: critique and trying to analyze it.
- 40:19Speaker 1: And another thing I mentioned in my book too is
- 40:21Speaker 1: I don't know how many people watch other shows, whether
- 40:23Speaker 1: it's part in the interruption and get up or first take.
- 40:28Speaker 1: I like to watch other people and use it as
- 40:30Speaker 1: a shadowing idea and an effort to see what you
- 40:33Speaker 1: like what you don't like, so that way you to
- 40:35Speaker 1: try to develop your own style as well. Those are
- 40:37Speaker 1: just a couple of things that i'll I mentioned and
- 40:39Speaker 1: when I start to eventually get back into public speaking
- 40:42Speaker 1: and I'm talking from the groups, those are the things
- 40:44Speaker 1: that we always like to talk about, is shadowing and critiguing.
- 40:48Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you have to go crazy and go nuts,
- 40:50Speaker 4: but those are things.
- 40:51Speaker 1: You know, Katie wy don't you give us a quick
- 40:53Speaker 1: station break, real quick, and then we're I don't want
- 40:55Speaker 1: to have other great topics as well and show everybody
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- 42:10Speaker 1: Great self. So I'm talking about my book, I'll tell
- 42:13Speaker 1: you a guy that Harry, you should definitely go ahead
- 42:16Speaker 1: look at it. And I'll tell you one thing, Earl,
- 42:18Speaker 1: thanks for buying the book, and I'm looking forward to
- 42:20Speaker 1: your feedback into chat. Okay, but here's a guy that
- 42:23Speaker 1: if you can't find him much better broadcaster than this guy.
- 42:26Speaker 1: He showed his worth on the Super Bowl. Ever heard
- 42:28Speaker 1: of Mike Errico. People, he called his first Super Bowl
- 42:33Speaker 1: and he's just a thirteenth TV play by play voice
- 42:36Speaker 1: in the history of Football's covered the biggest game and
- 42:39Speaker 1: he's a resident of an arbor. What are your thoughts
- 42:42Speaker 1: clip about Mike to Rico.
- 42:44Speaker 8: Oh, Mike Rico's so many years he's been doing U sports.
- 42:49Speaker 8: I've always liked what he does, what he has to offer,
- 42:53Speaker 8: how we tell the story, how he's able to really
- 42:57Speaker 8: run that broadcast. He's I don't like the anchor of
- 43:01Speaker 8: that broadcast, and he kind of runs that and you know,
- 43:05Speaker 8: he's he's been in this game a long time, very
- 43:08Speaker 8: very long time and you can you can see it
- 43:10Speaker 8: and he did just I think he did a wonderful
- 43:12Speaker 8: job this year. Uh with the with the roll and hey,
- 43:17Speaker 8: it's you know, you don't get much better than Mike Turco.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Yea, I think about this guy had to double dip
- 43:22Speaker 1: okay covers the super Bowl. It has it done the Olympics,
- 43:25Speaker 1: and I've never seen a guy who's worthy of the
- 43:27Speaker 1: prey dead it in social media. Social media was great
- 43:30Speaker 1: to this guy, and you know what they should be.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Mike Turrico is a big of a pro as you
- 43:35Speaker 1: can get. And I'll tell you a god love Mike.
- 43:38Speaker 1: I actually met all I think one time at Super
- 43:40Speaker 1: Bowl thirty three actually and we shot. We were able
- 43:42Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, and of course it didn't
- 43:44Speaker 1: hurry some of my neck of the woods out in
- 43:45Speaker 1: the Metro Detroit.
- 43:46Speaker 4: Aura can'ty some talks about Mike Terrico.
- 43:49Speaker 7: You know, I liked how he closed out the Olympics
- 43:52Speaker 7: and how he used saying about the Olympics are people
- 43:56Speaker 7: chasing their dreams and that's what you should do. He
- 44:01Speaker 7: brings more personalized. I think he makes it more personalized
- 44:06Speaker 7: for all of us in any of the broadcasts that
- 44:08Speaker 7: he does. He brings a little different angle and I
- 44:12Speaker 7: just I enjoy listening to him on broadcasts.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Nexus wals is in the house here out here, buddy,
- 44:20Speaker 1: what's up. Nice to catch up with you again. Ditto,
- 44:23Speaker 1: how's your day doing great? Getting a lot of things
- 44:25Speaker 1: done around around the business time. He's some talks about
- 44:28Speaker 1: Mikey to Reco.
- 44:30Speaker 10: Well, yeah, he's been a pro for a long time.
- 44:32Speaker 10: It's always about the game and it's not about him.
- 44:35Speaker 12: He's not.
- 44:38Speaker 11: Looking for sticks or anything like that. He just does
- 44:41Speaker 11: his job and he got a lot of praise for
- 44:43Speaker 11: the report he did pretty spontaneous after the hockey team's
- 44:48Speaker 11: gold medal. But yeah, there's nothing to not like about him.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Marin.
- 44:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I've always been in awe of his versatile and
- 45:01Speaker 5: his ability to really just relate and just speaking a
- 45:04Speaker 5: way that everybody kind of gets. And I think it's
- 45:08Speaker 5: a direct but soft approach. And I think he just
- 45:11Speaker 5: lands well with people.
- 45:12Speaker 7: Man.
- 45:12Speaker 5: He has his good energy, great communications skills. He you know,
- 45:18Speaker 5: people can connect with him. You know, he's not type
- 45:20Speaker 5: of dude. So I think he's great. I'm a big
- 45:23Speaker 5: Trico fan.
- 45:25Speaker 4: Beautiful Okay, what about you, Marky?
- 45:29Speaker 13: I think Mike Trico is the top sportscaster and going today.
- 45:34Speaker 13: You know, so at first souls who talked to relating
- 45:37Speaker 13: to the fans on my old sports talk show in Tennessee.
- 45:40Speaker 13: I actually had the opportunity to have him on as
- 45:42Speaker 13: a guest, and what I do remember about the conversation
- 45:47Speaker 13: really impressed me was he spoke of that he thought
- 45:52Speaker 13: that NFL ticket prices were too high for the average fan.
- 45:57Speaker 13: I mean, somebody who cares about the fan right there.
- 46:00Speaker 13: That really impressed me. And you know what, I agree
- 46:03Speaker 13: with Mike Trico as well.
- 46:05Speaker 12: So what else can I say? I mean, I think
- 46:08Speaker 12: he's the best in the business right now.
- 46:12Speaker 4: I'm good, go ahead, yeah, you know, I don't.
- 46:16Speaker 12: I never think about ranking guys.
- 46:18Speaker 14: When you think about what Mike Urrico is doing right now,
- 46:20Speaker 14: he's definitely has to be. He goes Super Bowl, Olympics
- 46:26Speaker 14: back for NBA, probably gonna do some MLB games when
- 46:30Speaker 14: they have the Sunday night baseball games. He's literally covering
- 46:34Speaker 14: all the major things when it comes to sports in
- 46:36Speaker 14: America and the world when you add the Olympics, and
- 46:39Speaker 14: Mike Urrico's been doing that for the longest right, he
- 46:41Speaker 14: was doing Monday Night Football. At some point he was
- 46:43Speaker 14: doing the NBA on ESPN.
- 46:46Speaker 12: He's just that guy.
- 46:47Speaker 14: He does the Notre Dame games. He's just amazing at
- 46:50Speaker 14: what he does. He never seems out of sorts. He's
- 46:53Speaker 14: a sports lifer.
- 46:54Speaker 1: And you can tell Okay, all right, Marky, I'll tell
- 46:58Speaker 1: you what we're gonna go to our non I wanted
- 47:01Speaker 1: You're going to probably.
- 47:01Speaker 4: Leave around Tenis is that correct?
- 47:03Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So what I want you to do is
- 47:06Speaker 1: give me your individual opinion on the Dodgers Tach Fedalleague
- 47:09Speaker 1: for signing any more big free agents this season, which
- 47:12Speaker 1: will obviously be one hundred ten percent and adding Kyle
- 47:14Speaker 1: Tucker and everybody else. Will address it after the ten
- 47:17Speaker 1: o'clock hour. It's about eighty million after Texas. What are
- 47:20Speaker 1: your thoughts about that, Marquee.
- 47:22Speaker 13: Well, they can afford it, but I mean it's just
- 47:25Speaker 13: another sign that there really isn't any control or competitive
- 47:30Speaker 13: balance in baseball now.
- 47:33Speaker 6: And you know he heard earlier.
- 47:34Speaker 13: I know there's a conversation about, boy, would I like
- 47:37Speaker 13: to see a salary cap? I know that's controversial. I
- 47:40Speaker 13: know some people don't agree with it, but when all
- 47:42Speaker 13: the other sports have it and you don't. And it
- 47:45Speaker 13: seems that baseball has the worst competitive balance of any
- 47:49Speaker 13: of the major sports. Then I think the group is
- 47:54Speaker 13: in the putting. The Dodgers can afford to pay the salary,
- 47:57Speaker 13: they afford to pay the price. Well, I do believe
- 48:00Speaker 13: all the teams are profitable. I mean, they've got the
- 48:04Speaker 13: most tubs of moolah of any of the other teams
- 48:07Speaker 13: and such, so, I mean, I just I think when
- 48:09Speaker 13: you see, oh, the Dodgers signing another free agent and
- 48:13Speaker 13: not even caring what it costs and all this, I
- 48:16Speaker 13: think that this actually drives a lot of people away
- 48:20Speaker 13: in places like Kansas City and Pittsburgh and Cincinnati or wherever,
- 48:25Speaker 13: because they no longer think that their teams are playing
- 48:27Speaker 13: on an even level. I know it's always been that
- 48:31Speaker 13: way to a certain degree. When the Yankees were winning
- 48:34Speaker 13: fourteen Pennants in sixteen years, let's face it, the finances
- 48:39Speaker 13: of those of that era, you know, they had more
- 48:43Speaker 13: money than let's say, the Saint Louis Browns or the
- 48:46Speaker 13: Philadelphia Athletics, obviously, and that's why they were able to
- 48:49Speaker 13: win the World Series for five straight years some seventy
- 48:53Speaker 13: five years ago or so, but you know, so it's
- 48:56Speaker 13: always been that way, but it just seems more more
- 49:00Speaker 13: apparent now when you compare it to the other sports
- 49:04Speaker 13: great stuff.
- 49:05Speaker 1: Okay, let's continue on back to the non sports topic
- 49:08Speaker 1: that we had earlier with Mike. Everybody gets a crack
- 49:11Speaker 1: at this one. Cliff Ruby's cube was solved in just
- 49:14Speaker 1: zero point one zero three seconds by a robot felt
- 49:16Speaker 1: by produced. Students were talks about this one, Cliff.
- 49:19Speaker 8: That that's that's not surprising. I mean the computer did
- 49:23Speaker 8: it that quickly. It's a computer and it's what it's
- 49:25Speaker 8: meant for.
- 49:26Speaker 7: Uh.
- 49:27Speaker 8: I was never good at it. I was just never
- 49:29Speaker 8: good at it. Yeah, it's a that's but that's what
- 49:34Speaker 8: they're putting it to. I mean, isn't there more important
- 49:36Speaker 8: things to worry about as opposed to, you know, figure
- 49:39Speaker 8: out a Rubik's cube?
- 49:42Speaker 1: Think souse the one thing clips are gonna get used
- 49:44Speaker 1: to as you come on these shows, and my man
- 49:46Speaker 1: is leading to one of my things I'm working on
- 49:48Speaker 1: throughout the years. We love these non sports topics and
- 49:51Speaker 1: only get more insane if you don't believe me, asked
- 49:53Speaker 1: Martin Powell. He's getting off easy at the second hour,
- 49:56Speaker 1: the first hour. He had it tough, but now it
- 50:00Speaker 1: was what it is. I mean, I mean zero point
- 50:02Speaker 1: one three second han't count that well, all right, Katie.
- 50:06Speaker 7: So the machine utilizes high speed cameras, custom computer vision algorithms,
- 50:12Speaker 7: and precise industrial motor controls. Now, the one thing that
- 50:17Speaker 7: I will add, Scott that the team also had to
- 50:21Speaker 7: reinforce the Rubic's cube itself with the custom internal core
- 50:28Speaker 7: to prevent it from disintegrating during the rapid, violent, high.
- 50:32Speaker 15: Speed moves that the robot used to do the Rubik's cube.
- 50:37Speaker 1: So, yes, do you think town is this almost insane
- 50:41Speaker 1: topics have come up with since you've been on the same.
- 50:44Speaker 11: I don't know anyone solves a Rubics cube, and I
- 50:47Speaker 11: don't know how a computer can't solve the.
- 50:51Speaker 10: I'll leave it at that.
- 50:53Speaker 4: That's good enough, lie, Marvin.
- 50:55Speaker 5: You know, we're getting to the point now where I'm
- 50:58Speaker 5: starting to think that compute uters and technologies are gonna
- 51:02Speaker 5: surpass us because you know, they don't have feelings and emotions.
- 51:06Speaker 5: They just they just do the work. They just do
- 51:07Speaker 5: the job, you know, And I wonder how at what
- 51:11Speaker 5: point is that is that not good for us? So
- 51:14Speaker 5: right now it's the Ruber's Cube. Tomorrow it's something different.
- 51:18Speaker 7: I don't know, but.
- 51:20Speaker 5: I think it's fascinating that, you know, a computer or
- 51:24Speaker 5: technology can can solve or complete the Ruber's cute thing.
- 51:28Speaker 5: It is fast, but it's not shocking, man. I mean,
- 51:32Speaker 5: it's day out there. If there's a lot of stuff
- 51:35Speaker 5: going on in technology, Telly, I'm telling.
- 51:36Speaker 4: You, man, I don't know, judging by your body language.
- 51:42Speaker 3: No, I'm serious. I mean it makes you.
- 51:44Speaker 5: I mean it's unbelievable what they're doing things that we
- 51:49Speaker 5: again we're talking about the Ruber's Cube, but think about,
- 51:51Speaker 5: you know, things that we don't know about that are
- 51:53Speaker 5: happening with technology. So today this story sounds cute. There
- 51:58Speaker 5: are other stories that are coming. There ain't gonna be
- 51:59Speaker 5: so cy, you know.
- 52:01Speaker 1: You know, Marvin, I'm gonna say you something. I've known
- 52:03Speaker 1: you long enough, Okay, I don't give you. I'm gonna
- 52:06Speaker 1: play it straight with you, like like you mentioned, he
- 52:08Speaker 1: plays it straight with you. I've hit you with all
- 52:11Speaker 1: kinds of times. I've never seen you laugh at one
- 52:13Speaker 1: like this before.
- 52:14Speaker 3: This is a first.
- 52:16Speaker 13: So I think, well, before we lament the takeover of computers,
- 52:25Speaker 13: which is an old topic, I'm not sure that the
- 52:27Speaker 13: quick solving of a rub excused by a crew cube
- 52:31Speaker 13: by a computer is any different than the unbeatable chess
- 52:35Speaker 13: opponent that one might play on a computer, you know,
- 52:39Speaker 13: that sort of thing. But I'm just impressed. I think
- 52:42Speaker 13: it was the first time anybody's talked about a Rubics
- 52:44Speaker 13: cube in forty years.
- 52:45Speaker 12: That bad really went out.
- 52:47Speaker 13: I mean, you know, I think because the baseball strike
- 52:50Speaker 13: was an eighty one, you know, kids needed something to
- 52:53Speaker 13: do other than watch their ball their ball clubs back
- 52:56Speaker 13: and then, and so they played with Rubik's cubes. I
- 52:58Speaker 13: was very happy when I could just get one side done,
- 53:01Speaker 13: I will tell you that. But by nineteen eighty three,
- 53:04Speaker 13: when that thing was hanging around, I mean, that was
- 53:07Speaker 13: yesterday's toy. And I don't know that anybody's talked about
- 53:10Speaker 13: a Rubik's cube for at least forty three years, So
- 53:15Speaker 13: you know, have they?
- 53:17Speaker 1: I mean the news to me, well, that's why I'm
- 53:20Speaker 1: so caught and picking it and saying, that's why we
- 53:22Speaker 1: do this stuff for the sports jam.
- 53:23Speaker 4: So we're gonna do.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do. Markey, give me your thoughts
- 53:27Speaker 1: about lou Holtz, and then what you're gonna do is gon.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Everybody know how they get a hold, try to get
- 53:30Speaker 1: you out at nine or nine to one.
- 53:32Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean yes, yes, Lou Holtz well, and I know,
- 53:39Speaker 13: you know you try to be objective of this. Before
- 53:41Speaker 13: a long time, Lou Holtz was my favorite college football coach.
- 53:44Speaker 13: Uh the if you want to go back, the very
- 53:47Speaker 13: first team that I ever heard of as a little
- 53:49Speaker 13: boy was the South Carolina game cop. So I know
- 53:52Speaker 13: a lot of people will recognize Folts from days at
- 53:56Speaker 13: Notre Dame, but what he did at South Carolina, which
- 54:00Speaker 13: was easily the worst program in the SEC when he
- 54:06Speaker 13: got there, and you know, his first year he went
- 54:11Speaker 13: on to eleven there, but they had no talent. But
- 54:14Speaker 13: the thing was, for the first time they were recruiting
- 54:18Speaker 13: keeping quality in state players at South Carolina home. A
- 54:23Speaker 13: lot of people don't know this, but South Carolina is
- 54:26Speaker 13: one of the top ten states I believe in producing
- 54:30Speaker 13: NFL football players. It's only twenty fourth in population, but
- 54:34Speaker 13: they've got good football in South Carolina. So why do
- 54:38Speaker 13: the Clemson Tigers win a lot in such wire? The
- 54:42Speaker 13: Ferman Paladins usually good in the FCS. That's sort of
- 54:46Speaker 13: there's a lot of talent there anyway, but it wasn't
- 54:49Speaker 13: coming to South Carolina until he got there. And what
- 54:54Speaker 13: he was able to do now, he never won the
- 54:56Speaker 13: SEC at South Carolina. Heck, you never beat Tennessee or Florida,
- 55:02Speaker 13: but he got them to a level of responsibility from
- 55:05Speaker 13: oh On eleven to nine and four and beating Ohio
- 55:08Speaker 13: State in New Year's Day Bowl games. He got the
- 55:11Speaker 13: program to a point where they could become nationally prominent
- 55:17Speaker 13: under Steve Spurrier. And for the last ten years since Spurrier,
- 55:20Speaker 13: I think South Carolina has been up and down. But
- 55:23Speaker 13: you know, two years ago they just missed the college
- 55:26Speaker 13: football Playoff. We're talking about a program that was one
- 55:30Speaker 13: in ten oh and eleven and a very passionate fan
- 55:34Speaker 13: base in South Carolina did not believe the game Cocks
- 55:38Speaker 13: who could ever win?
- 55:40Speaker 3: And you know, he changed all that.
- 55:44Speaker 13: And that's something that everybody in South Carolina has got
- 55:47Speaker 13: to be greatful on.
- 55:48Speaker 12: And with that, I will leave you and bid you ado.
- 55:52Speaker 4: Well, actually you should let us know how to get
- 55:54Speaker 4: hold of you old on.
- 55:56Speaker 13: Okay, Well you can go on. Let's say you can
- 55:59Speaker 13: find me on Facebook at Markey Bilson. I'm okay, why
- 56:02Speaker 13: b I L L s O. When check out my
- 56:06Speaker 13: podcast on East Tennessee State Sports on TikTok again at
- 56:10Speaker 13: Marquee Bilson or you can find that on YouTube, many
- 56:13Speaker 13: other sources and such Twitter. You'll find me at Market
- 56:17Speaker 13: Bilson usually a lot of a Pittsburgh content there. You know,
- 56:21Speaker 13: I am a former sports post at sports writer, so
- 56:24Speaker 13: you know many places to find me. And with that,
- 56:27Speaker 13: I bid you ado for real.
- 56:29Speaker 4: Yeah, next to Wednesday.
- 56:30Speaker 3: See you.
- 56:32Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Marky, appreciate you. Okay, Now we have Tommy.
- 56:37Speaker 1: All right, Tommy, we're gonna what we're gonna do with you.
- 56:40Speaker 1: The rest of the show is that you're gonna have
- 56:41Speaker 1: the Shanahan Report and I'll have maybe one or two
- 56:44Speaker 1: topics if you want to comment, and we'll let you go. Aws.
- 56:46Speaker 4: That's ound, okay, because these are ones I think it
- 56:48Speaker 4: would be very interested in.
- 56:49Speaker 1: One.
- 56:50Speaker 4: You can talk about Lou Holtz.
- 56:52Speaker 3: You want to start about a new holds now.
- 56:55Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead. I got a couple of ideas here
- 56:56Speaker 4: that I think caer.
- 56:58Speaker 3: One thing I always remember.
- 57:01Speaker 11: This is going way way back nineteen seventy seventh season,
- 57:05Speaker 11: Oklahoma was in position to win the national title after
- 57:09Speaker 11: Texas and Michigan got upset in their bowl games. The
- 57:12Speaker 11: Orange Bowl was the late Bowl game. On January first,
- 57:18Speaker 11: Arkansas had had some players, two or three of their
- 57:21Speaker 11: best players, get in some trouble. I forget if they
- 57:25Speaker 11: if it was a crime or whatever it was.
- 57:27Speaker 7: But.
- 57:29Speaker 11: Holts suspended them from the game, and everybody thought Oklahoma
- 57:34Speaker 11: was just gonna roll over Arkansas and claim its national title.
- 57:39Speaker 11: And Arkansas won thirty one to six. Nobody could figure
- 57:43Speaker 11: out how he did it with all these backup players.
- 57:47Speaker 11: You will never see coaches do that nowadays. They'd make
- 57:50Speaker 11: up some kind of excuse to play their star players
- 57:53Speaker 11: no matter what they did.
- 57:55Speaker 10: So that's something to admire Lou Holts about.
- 57:59Speaker 11: Of course, no question, he was a great coach everywhere
- 58:02Speaker 11: he was except for the New York Jets.
- 58:04Speaker 3: He was great in.
- 58:05Speaker 10: Minnesota and then he went to Notre Dame.
- 58:08Speaker 3: But I just.
- 58:12Speaker 11: I don't know how someone like Lou Holtz could spend
- 58:16Speaker 11: his whole career working with black athletes and minorities and
- 58:22Speaker 11: seeing how they've been discriminated against and then come out
- 58:27Speaker 11: and be a Trump supporter. I just don't get it.
- 58:30Speaker 11: He wasn't just a mild Trump supporter. He was a
- 58:33Speaker 11: rabid one. So for that reason, I have no respect
- 58:36Speaker 11: for the guy at all.
- 58:38Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair enough, Okay, Tommy, all right, now what
- 58:42Speaker 1: I want you to do is this, and this will
- 58:44Speaker 1: be a topic that.
- 58:45Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna talk about.
- 58:46Speaker 1: Okay, but Tommy's obviously, I have a few minutes left
- 58:49Speaker 1: with him, and then you're gonna go to Shanahan Report
- 58:51Speaker 1: after this one. This one has your name written all over.
- 58:54Speaker 1: Indiana moves high school basketball for Who's your football? High
- 58:57Speaker 1: school was root scheduled their sacred Friday night prep basketball
- 59:02Speaker 1: games so fans can see the Hoosiers in the Peach Bowl.
- 59:05Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Obviously, you you've covered Indiana a lot,
- 59:08Speaker 1: and we all know about the years of Hoosiers and
- 59:11Speaker 1: how they do things.
- 59:11Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about this story?
- 59:13Speaker 1: Tommy?
- 59:14Speaker 10: So they moved their Friday night games?
- 59:18Speaker 4: Yeah, they whover it again. This is unbelievable.
- 59:21Speaker 1: Indiana moves high school basketball for Hoo's your football? They
- 59:25Speaker 1: were scheduled their sacred Friday night prep basketball game so
- 59:28Speaker 1: fans can see the Hoosiers and the Peach Bowl. Apparently
- 59:31Speaker 1: the Peach Bowl. Obviously it was on a Friday night,
- 59:33Speaker 1: so they moved it so they can go out there
- 59:35Speaker 1: and watch the You follow me.
- 59:39Speaker 11: Yeah, well, if Indiana it wasn't a football school football
- 59:44Speaker 11: state before it is now.
- 59:47Speaker 10: I mean that that's a pretty amazing story.
- 59:50Speaker 11: That's like Nebraska movement on football games for their basketball team.
- 59:58Speaker 1: That's true.
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Tommy got the Shanahan reboard.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Gleam on front.
- 1:00:03Speaker 11: I've got a couple of stories from events that I
- 1:00:07Speaker 11: posted in the last couple of days on my website.
- 1:00:10Speaker 10: I have an event.
- 1:00:12Speaker 11: The Apex Library, which is Apex is a suburb of Raleigh,
- 1:00:16Speaker 11: invited me for a Black History Month. Jimmy Ray joined me,
- 1:00:20Speaker 11: Charlie Young, one of the pioneers at North Carolina State,
- 1:00:23Speaker 11: and a guy named Gary Dilly is also from Michigan State.
- 1:00:26Speaker 10: We talked about how the tar.
- 1:00:29Speaker 11: Hill State North Carolina played a far bigger role in
- 1:00:33Speaker 11: college football integration than people understand. For example, Jim Tatum
- 1:00:40Speaker 11: scheduled two games at North Carolina was segregated and Jim
- 1:00:44Speaker 11: Tatum was their coach in the late fifties, and he
- 1:00:47Speaker 11: scheduled games with a three game series with Michigan State,
- 1:00:51Speaker 11: two at East Lansing in sixty two and sixty three,
- 1:00:55Speaker 11: and then in sixty four in Michigan State was the
- 1:00:57Speaker 11: first fully integrated team to play in the South. Now,
- 1:01:01Speaker 11: Jim Tatum caught one of those bizarre, strange insect diseases
- 1:01:07Speaker 11: like Rocky Mountain spotted fever, and so he died in
- 1:01:10Speaker 11: nineteen fifty nine. But the point is those games are
- 1:01:14Speaker 11: scheduled ten years in advance. So in the late fifties,
- 1:01:18Speaker 11: when North Carolina's still segregated, he's scheduling a game with
- 1:01:22Speaker 11: Duffy Dorrity to bring his team down there. And that's
- 1:01:25Speaker 11: quite an advanced moment in college football integration that nobody understands.
- 1:01:30Speaker 11: And then the other thing, and I put up another
- 1:01:32Speaker 11: story today. Lancing Station, a TV station in Lansing, did
- 1:01:37Speaker 11: a Black History Month thing on the leadership of Michigan State,
- 1:01:41Speaker 11: not just in sports, but also throughout the campus over
- 1:01:45Speaker 11: the years. Clifton Nord was the first black president of
- 1:01:49Speaker 11: a major public university in the seventies. And then I
- 1:01:54Speaker 11: was interviewed about the Michigan State's leading the way in
- 1:01:58Speaker 11: college football integration. Both those things are with video or
- 1:02:02Speaker 11: posted on my website. Tom Shitty and report all.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Hey, Tommy, I appreciate you doing double duty this week
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: a little bit tonight and we'll see you next Tuesday
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: night on Inside the Picton.
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: All right, my friend, thanks, all right, every great weekend.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: All right?
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: Now there are five and now the insanity continues, all right,
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: So I have to trying to catch my breath a
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: little bit here, if that's even possible, Tony, I guess
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: were you the last one to come in on lou Holtz?
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: Or has everybody talked about Lou Holtz? Or he'p me
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: out a little bit?
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: Where are we at?
- 1:02:35Speaker 12: I haven't. I haven't spoken a little Katy.
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: Where are we at? What topic?
- 1:02:39Speaker 12: I will we?
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: Or was it the or was it the Ruby's cube?
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: Was you were the last one? They didn't get that one?
- 1:02:44Speaker 12: Right? Yeah? I didn't speak on the Ruby's cube?
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: Oh good you are?
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: Now go ahead?
- 1:02:49Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:02:51Speaker 14: To me, maybe it is my lack of patience, but
- 1:02:54Speaker 14: a Ruby's cube is an impossible feat. I just can't
- 1:02:57Speaker 14: see myself sitting there putting one together. So shout out
- 1:03:00Speaker 14: to the computer. But I'm with Marvin bro This this
- 1:03:03Speaker 14: is just a tip of the spear, tip of the iceberg.
- 1:03:06Speaker 14: This isn't even scratching the surface, and it's the way
- 1:03:09Speaker 14: that they're presenting it to us to make it seem
- 1:03:12Speaker 14: more acceptable.
- 1:03:14Speaker 12: You know.
- 1:03:14Speaker 14: It's almost like with the ring cameras. Now you can
- 1:03:17Speaker 14: post your dog and they'll use the cameras to find
- 1:03:20Speaker 14: your dog. They're using those cameras to watch you these
- 1:03:24Speaker 14: The technology is getting too smart and we're way too slow.
- 1:03:28Speaker 14: So we got to figure out a way to balance
- 1:03:30Speaker 14: this out. But shout out to the robot and the
- 1:03:33Speaker 14: room is.
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: Cute, earl. You got to keep me straight in here.
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: I got a lot of people.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Now we're down to five, it gets a little easier,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: but I was looking to get a lot of people
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: in here. And this is how strong of a show
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: this thing is. And I'll tell you one thing we
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: were able to probably do. I can get eight people
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: in inside of ninety minutes. I'm doing pretty dark good
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: because I could crank out one liner. So I'll let
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: everybody else take the show. Hey, you're having a good
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: time so far, Cliff on this thing. You're looking forward
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: to coming back every week?
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:04:00Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's gonna be great every Wednesday night. It's gonna
- 1:04:03Speaker 8: be so much fun.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: Okay, So all right, Tony, since we you ended with
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: the rumors. Shoot, you're gonna go ahead to Lou Hols
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: some thoughts.
- 1:04:11Speaker 12: Lou Holts.
- 1:04:13Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 1:04:13Speaker 7: Me.
- 1:04:15Speaker 14: My earliest rememberance a recognition of Lou host is with
- 1:04:19Speaker 14: South Carolina. I didn't realize he was a Notre Dame
- 1:04:22Speaker 14: national championship winning coach until I was older and able
- 1:04:25Speaker 14: to pay attention to that, and like, look back, I
- 1:04:28Speaker 14: just remember him being a good coach for South Carolina.
- 1:04:30Speaker 14: I don't remember South Carolina being bad because he was
- 1:04:33Speaker 14: solid when he was there. And then him transitioned into
- 1:04:36Speaker 14: being on ESPN and College Game Day. He just became
- 1:04:39Speaker 14: a figurehead on TV. So that's that's what I remember
- 1:04:42Speaker 14: about him. And then when I got older and I
- 1:04:44Speaker 14: became a Hurricane fan, it was a man, I don't
- 1:04:46Speaker 14: really like Lou Holst like that he was he.
- 1:04:48Speaker 12: Was part of the Catholics, and I was a Hurricane
- 1:04:50Speaker 12: fan with the convy.
- 1:04:51Speaker 14: So that was that was That's my reconection of Lou
- 1:04:55Speaker 14: Holts in the hole and the grand scheme of things.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: All right, So let me give you a quick story
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: in Hols, Marvin your neck get ready, okay, And that's this.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: I actually had an opportunity to cover an Orangeville get
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: this with Lou Holtz and Bobby Bowden over at the
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: actual Orangeville not hard Rock Stadium, Okay, Orangewell Stadium, And
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: let me tell you that was a great week. There
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: was no shortest of one liners for both of those
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: two guys. Now, I actually made a mistake, but I
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: actually thought, how do you like, uh, you know, playing
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: in the Big East Conference? And he corrected me very
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: nicely and candidly said, well, all over sports in their football.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: But it's okay. I mean you talk about a classic guy.
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: This guy was.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: And then I hit him with a couple of follow
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: up questions that were a little bit better than that
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: one that shows I was a puppet. I was a
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: little bit younger, but covering the Orangeville at the Orangewell
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Stadium with Bowden and Holtz, that was an absolute quote machine.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: Lou Hols rest in peace, all right, Marvin.
- 1:05:51Speaker 5: Go ahead, Yeah, Lou Holtz one of the all time
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: great coaches. Growing up as a kid, you know, I
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: I love the Actually he was playing a black quarterblack
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: and Tony Rice. Tony Rice helped him win the National championship.
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: Tony Rice is from South Carolina. Speaking about South Carolina football,
- 1:06:10Speaker 5: but Lou Holts had a dominant Notre Dame teams. He
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: was really the last coach to have, you know, a
- 1:06:16Speaker 5: great Notre Dame team. You know, he's the last coach
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: to really be in that conversation. And you know, I'm
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: proud to say that his last regular season loss came
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: at the hands at USC when I was there in
- 1:06:30Speaker 5: the coliseum. Felt good to be the legend. I mean,
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: you respect that, but no, man, tell listen, he is
- 1:06:38Speaker 5: a he is a Hall of famer. Didn't work out
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: for him and my Jets, but you know, he really
- 1:06:45Speaker 5: his coaching tree I think as well established. And the
- 1:06:48Speaker 5: reason that we still talk about him literally, you know,
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: fifty years later is because he was just that good
- 1:06:55Speaker 5: so or fifty years after he left Lenard Dames. So yeah,
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: you know, great legend, big, big football legend. I'm a
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: big fan of him, even though he coached for Irish.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, you really broke your heart one.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: You had the opportunity to get a plug in for
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: the Trojan beating the Irish.
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: And loew Old it made sense, got it just made sense.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: You know, it slid right in there, Marvin.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: That was so painful that you could hardly even feel
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: the cut and pick it paid. I know you longed
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: a following you think I am, then again, hold your
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: emotions because you've probably got nine million things to say
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: about me, good, bad, or different.
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: I don't care, but I still love you anyway.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: Now, Okay, go ahead, candy thoughts about olds before I
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: say something stupid. And I don't have any drinks there
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: to bail me out of the dehydration I'm getting in
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: this thing called the studio.
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: So anytime someone's career, think about this. His career started
- 1:07:52Speaker 7: in coaching in nineteen sixty. It ended in two thousand
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: and four. That tells you, I mean, in a day
- 1:08:01Speaker 7: and age where we talk about coaches on a short leash,
- 1:08:05Speaker 7: that you know that one and done or two and
- 1:08:08Speaker 7: done or we only give you a short lease like that?
- 1:08:13Speaker 14: You know?
- 1:08:13Speaker 7: He coached was an assistant coach in nineteen sixty for
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: IOWA in Williams and Mary, Connecticut, South Carolina, Ohio State.
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: Then he was a head coach Williams and Mary, North
- 1:08:26Speaker 7: Carolina State, went to the Jets, Arkansas, Minnesota, Notre Dame
- 1:08:32Speaker 7: for ten years, and then South Carolina from ninety nine
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: to two thousand and four. His overall coaching record is
- 1:08:40Speaker 7: two hundred and forty nine one hundred and thirty two
- 1:08:44Speaker 7: and seven. Now that's his college coaching record in the NFL. Obviously,
- 1:08:50Speaker 7: he coached for the Jets. He was three and ten.
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: No offense, The Jets aren't real great, Marvin, you've talked
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: about that a lot of times, you know, obviously, and
- 1:09:02Speaker 7: we've talked about previously on other shows that sometimes a
- 1:09:06Speaker 7: head coach in college doesn't mean you're going to be
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: a good head coach in the pros. The same with assistants.
- 1:09:13Speaker 7: Just like we said, there are some offensive coordinators that
- 1:09:18Speaker 7: are better offensive coordinators than they are head coaches. But
- 1:09:22Speaker 7: back to Lou Holtz, a really awesome, legendary coach. There'll
- 1:09:27Speaker 7: be none other like him. Rent and rest in.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: Peace, right, all right, Cliff, you have the final word
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: on this one, Okay, Lou Holtz.
- 1:09:35Speaker 8: When I've heard he passed on, I was like, very
- 1:09:38Speaker 8: sad about that. I do remember the eighty eight championship.
- 1:09:42Speaker 8: I'm from New York. I'm from Long Island, and we're
- 1:09:46Speaker 8: not really into college sports up there because we have
- 1:09:49Speaker 8: thirty thousand professional teams. But Notre Dame was someone I
- 1:09:56Speaker 8: got into I lived there for in Indiana for a year,
- 1:10:00Speaker 8: and I kind of got and then in it was
- 1:10:02Speaker 8: something about Lou Holtz and just how how he just
- 1:10:05Speaker 8: coached and when you heard him talk and and yeah,
- 1:10:08Speaker 8: I remember Tony Rice winning that at the quarterback there,
- 1:10:11Speaker 8: and I just Lou Holtz did such a great job
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: and made me care about Notre Dame football and he
- 1:10:20Speaker 8: was that that rock there, that coach, and the way
- 1:10:22Speaker 8: after he left and then he went to South Carolina
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: drugged a little bit, but then you know, really, you know,
- 1:10:28Speaker 8: just gave them such credibility and just man, you could
- 1:10:31Speaker 8: tell he had really cared about his his his players
- 1:10:35Speaker 8: and uh there you know them as uh players, but
- 1:10:38Speaker 8: also as as people too. So yeah, it was it
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: was very heartbreaking. So uh that's that's that's a sad said,
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: uh loss we had today.
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: All right, now, we're gonna double back to when I
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: hit Timmy what everybody can talk about left. Since you
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: were the last one that spoke, you're gonna be the
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: first one on this one in the end. Obviously I
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: told you about that moving too high school. Thatsketball for
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: hoo's your football. Obviously the Friday night the games were
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: replaced by the peach Ball. What are your thoughts about that, Cliff.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's says the reality Hoosiers has
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: made it. But you know, when you don't have a
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: team that doesn't win off and Indiana is just a
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: great college state and obviously the losers are doing some
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: incredible stuff.
- 1:11:20Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been it's been a real long time since
- 1:11:22Speaker 8: they've been you know, uh, even halfway decent at football
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: at this at this level. You know, it's it's it
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: was very surprising for me. It's like, really, Indiana's doing it. Wow,
- 1:11:34Speaker 8: they really turned things around, and I yeah, I get it.
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: I get it's it's some it doesn't happen very often,
- 1:11:42Speaker 8: and it's probably been it's been a while since they've
- 1:11:45Speaker 8: been you know this, uh, this influential and a successful
- 1:11:48Speaker 8: so they wanted to take advantage of that. And the
- 1:11:52Speaker 8: stranger things have happened. I'm not it's a little strange,
- 1:11:56Speaker 8: but I'm not that surprised.
- 1:11:58Speaker 7: Dandy, you know, I'm not surprised. In today's day and age.
- 1:12:02Speaker 7: Look at how many different days the NFL will play on.
- 1:12:05Speaker 7: The NFL has played on Thursday, Friday, They've played it Saturdays,
- 1:12:09Speaker 7: they've played Sundays, They've played Mondays, so do I.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: Am.
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: I surprised that Indiana moved basketball. You know, their their
- 1:12:19Speaker 7: teams around or their games around. No, because it's about
- 1:12:22Speaker 7: money and making the most money you can and getting
- 1:12:25Speaker 7: the most bang for your buck and not going up
- 1:12:28Speaker 7: against sometimes not putting two teams up against each other
- 1:12:33Speaker 7: in your market so that you have to make your
- 1:12:36Speaker 7: fans pick and choose. This way, they you know, could
- 1:12:39Speaker 7: choose both. So I get it. It's a business.
- 1:12:43Speaker 14: Oh yeah, it makes sense. Look one thing for sure,
- 1:12:50Speaker 14: and two things for starting in football. I mean an America,
- 1:12:52Speaker 14: football is game. So if you got a team, especially
- 1:12:55Speaker 14: you talk about Indiana who's never played for a national championship,
- 1:13:00Speaker 14: never had a season, it's good you're gonna you can
- 1:13:04Speaker 14: move a high school game or basketball games around easier
- 1:13:07Speaker 14: than moving football games around.
- 1:13:10Speaker 12: I love it.
- 1:13:11Speaker 14: You know, I know some people from Indiana from that
- 1:13:14Speaker 14: area type the community. So this is just something that
- 1:13:18Speaker 14: brings the community together. And that's what sports does. It
- 1:13:20Speaker 14: brings everybody together. And being able to watch your team
- 1:13:23Speaker 14: route for a national championship. It's three and a half
- 1:13:26Speaker 14: hours a piece in a place like anywhere any place
- 1:13:30Speaker 14: in America that can use right now, so I can
- 1:13:32Speaker 14: I can see why you do that.
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I think Tony just headed. I mean football,
- 1:13:39Speaker 5: it's King Canny said that, it's a business. It's a
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: testament to the you know how powerful sports are you
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: know again football, well, sports, family religion. I mean, depending
- 1:13:51Speaker 5: up on who you are, it's a different one two three.
- 1:13:53Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean this is historic. Uh, Indiana has
- 1:13:59Speaker 5: the biggest living alumni, which just tells you how many
- 1:14:02Speaker 5: people in that state probably are.
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: You know, this is a big deal to them. I
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: get it.
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, So if you sent you from the
- 1:14:11Speaker 4: Long Island area, is that correct?
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Yeah? I grew up there.
- 1:14:14Speaker 12: It was.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: Okay, everybody's gonna love this story. I'm telling you and
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Marvin here, since you're the last one to smoke, you're
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: gonna be the first one. I'm gonna have a little
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: fun with this rotation. I think last and then first.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: How's that?
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: Okay?
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: And Candy somehow gets away with it cause she's right
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: in the middle. Anyways, So this is really a really
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: good story. The regulations to Rod Strickland if they named
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: the coach of the Year and the NEC three years ago,
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: Long Island University went one in fifteen in conference played.
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: This season, they're fifteen and three and they won the
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: regular season titled Rod Strickland. Everybody, how many people remember?
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: And he's done a really good job in Long Island. Marvin,
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: you can start please.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14:57Speaker 5: I got a lot of love for Long Island. I
- 1:14:59Speaker 5: spent six years there when my dad was with the Jets.
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: Shout out to East Medal, Yeah, shout out to East Meadow,
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: New York. So yeah, that just shows you the power
- 1:15:09Speaker 5: one of coaching and what that nil check can do,
- 1:15:13Speaker 5: all right, because I'm certain that they got I'm certain
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: they did some kind of fundraise and they got some
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: kind of alumni who puts something together.
- 1:15:22Speaker 13: Uh.
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: But yeah, real leadership, real coaching, and uh in that
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: check and Long Island isn't a bad place to be
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you know, I'd love to see
- 1:15:30Speaker 5: how many transfers they had this year.
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't know what no longer I
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: was getting it a line in I all off, I
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: don't even know.
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: But hey, listen, I got news. So I have a
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: lot of respect for Rod Strickland. The fact that he
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: won there.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: To me, he says, a whole lot about this guy's coaching,
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: and you know what generally happens with guys like them,
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: went over to place like that, and you're graduating to
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: a much bigger conference and getting paid a whole lot
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: of money.
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: Unless I like it all right, Tony.
- 1:15:55Speaker 12: Go on, Yeah, right.
- 1:16:00Speaker 14: Strickland as a great player, Yeah, great player. It's interesting
- 1:16:06Speaker 14: to see him as a coach. Sometimes the good players
- 1:16:08Speaker 14: are not as good as coaching because they just expect
- 1:16:12Speaker 14: players to get it. But it shows that he has
- 1:16:13Speaker 14: the patience he can develop talent. But like Marvin said,
- 1:16:18Speaker 14: I'm sure some money involved in that too, getting getting
- 1:16:21Speaker 14: some of the best talent that you can for bang
- 1:16:24Speaker 14: for your buck with the dollars that they got. But
- 1:16:26Speaker 14: I like to see it, man, I like improvement stories.
- 1:16:28Speaker 14: I like that he did choose to go to a
- 1:16:31Speaker 14: small school. I'm assuming he chose to go to a
- 1:16:33Speaker 14: small school. Somebody like Rod Strickland probably can coach different places,
- 1:16:37Speaker 14: but he gets more of a hands on experience with this.
- 1:16:40Speaker 12: So that's good for the team obviously, and Rod Strickland.
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: You know what generally happens to schools like this, They
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: get the tournament, they start wrecking rackets, what they do.
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: It's just too kidding, all right, Candy.
- 1:16:54Speaker 7: You know he comes from He's been under some really
- 1:16:59Speaker 7: good co Scott. Did you know that? Strickland was an
- 1:17:04Speaker 7: assistant coach for the South Florida Bulls under Orlando Antigua
- 1:17:09Speaker 7: from twenty fourteen to seventeen.
- 1:17:12Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:17:14Speaker 7: He formerly served as in an administrative role for the
- 1:17:18Speaker 7: University of Kentucky basketball team under head coach John Calipari.
- 1:17:23Speaker 7: And he was the director of basketball operations at the
- 1:17:27Speaker 7: University of Memphis under Calipery. He is the godfather of
- 1:17:31Speaker 7: current NBA player Kyrie Irving, and he was and he
- 1:17:39Speaker 7: was inducted into the New York Basketball Hall of Fame
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: with the class of two thousand and eight. So obviously,
- 1:17:49Speaker 7: he's played for the Knicks, the Spurs, the Blazers, the
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: Washington Bullets, Flash Wizards, the Blazers, the Miami Heat, the Timberwolves,
- 1:17:57Speaker 7: of Magic, Raptors, and Rocks. So obviously he's played under
- 1:18:02Speaker 7: a lot of different coaches, so he's seen a lot
- 1:18:05Speaker 7: of different coaching styles. And then he's coached and had
- 1:18:08Speaker 7: some other lineage with some of the other basketball greats.
- 1:18:12Speaker 12: So obviously he's.
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: Taken a little bit from everybody, and he's making it
- 1:18:17Speaker 7: work for him on the court and getting it having
- 1:18:19Speaker 7: success turning that program round.
- 1:18:21Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you, Mike Kelly sent me a
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: text about Candy.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: You ready for this? People?
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: Okay?
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: He Mertl's Candy's reacher, not that I say they knew you,
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: Murron right, they'll have been out, will be longer than anybody.
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: Antony's getting up there a little bit of time. Mike
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: Kelly's get this. He sent me in sex book Candy.
- 1:18:38Speaker 14: Man.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: I love this girl's research. Man, she makes it interesting.
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: And now he just sent me a text message to
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: try to get a little short clip so he can
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: promote his show. How about that bad all because of
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: you can't? All right, Cliff, since your prom that area.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: You got the final word on your Long Island people up.
- 1:18:53Speaker 8: There, Oh it's well our Long Island sports for universities
- 1:18:58Speaker 8: not very well renown. Yeah, stony Brook does this thing,
- 1:19:03Speaker 8: but it's a lower level and Hofstra and so heck
- 1:19:08Speaker 8: you can turn turn it around and do something like
- 1:19:10Speaker 8: that at a Long Island school. And I gotta tip
- 1:19:14Speaker 8: my hat to Tom especially turn it around so quickly
- 1:19:18Speaker 8: as as he did. Yeah, I remember him playing, especially
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: for the Knicks, and he's I didn't even realize he
- 1:19:25Speaker 8: was on that many teams.
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: It's it's yeah.
- 1:19:28Speaker 8: I tipped my hat to him how he was able
- 1:19:31Speaker 8: to turn that around, especially uh school on Long Island,
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: and uh yeah it's and yeah, every so often you
- 1:19:39Speaker 8: see them in the tournament. It's been you know, every
- 1:19:42Speaker 8: so often. So it's it'll be nice to see maybe
- 1:19:46Speaker 8: maybe they can win a game or heck, maybe two
- 1:19:49Speaker 8: they get a get a bid there.
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: So if I bothered to get a march Man done
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: in a few years and I said I can't do this,
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: I don't tournament and paid attention to it, I'm going
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: to be forced to take this team just to at
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: least get one win, given though like nine zillion other
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: people were not gonna win it.
- 1:20:06Speaker 4: Anyways, all right, back to a non sports topic tonight.
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: All right, man, walk four hundred and fifty kilometer or
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is to cool off
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: after he had an argument with his wife. After an
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: argument with his wife, his wife reported him as missing
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: and later collected him. All Right, for people, okay, not
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: about you, but if I get an argument, okay, I
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: don't mind walking a little bit. That was when I
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: could a lot more marvel. He talks about this guy,
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: you think you start doing that, just get away, walk around,
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: I know forty hundred fifty kilometers.
- 1:20:35Speaker 4: Don't even ask me, but what are you talks about
- 1:20:38Speaker 4: the philosophy.
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: At least, you know. I think he's looking for a
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: peaceful solution. I think he's looking for a way just
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: to get away and breathe a little bit.
- 1:20:46Speaker 5: I've been with my wife well nineteen years yesterday, but
- 1:20:50Speaker 5: with her to about twenty six years total, you know,
- 1:20:53Speaker 5: and it's sometimes it's like that, man, Sometimes you just
- 1:20:57Speaker 5: need to get up the room and get some space.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: Now he went, and he to another level. I don't
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: know how. I mean, he was really trying to get
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: away from you know what I mean.
- 1:21:05Speaker 5: So I don't know what was going on with that,
- 1:21:07Speaker 5: but hey man, it's really listen, many many, many married
- 1:21:12Speaker 5: men will tell you, uh, the many different crazy things
- 1:21:15Speaker 5: they've had to do just to calm down or get
- 1:21:18Speaker 5: away or whatever.
- 1:21:19Speaker 3: Maybe it is what it is.
- 1:21:20Speaker 5: So he found a way to keep a classy and
- 1:21:23Speaker 5: not and not end up on uh, you know, unsolved murders.
- 1:21:26Speaker 5: And that's all, and that's all good to me. I
- 1:21:28Speaker 5: respect it.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one. Good Paul. I needed to
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: come up with another one other non sports gets stuck brother, Okay, Tony,
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: I'm sold.
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: What was it called him again?
- 1:21:39Speaker 10: Levin?
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: Solve Murders II D Channel, Yeah, Unsolved Murders?
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: Is that a Is that a show?
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: My wife's favorite show?
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: Yes, Katie, don't you ever get me to watch that one?
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: I struggle with n c I S Chicago p D
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: and don't get me. I mean, I could never do
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: Criminal Minds. Oh god, that was terrible.
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: But when she got me at Chicago, Pete, it was
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: better than Nancis.
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: I'm hooked. Okay. And when I write my second version
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: of Listen from the Microphone, I'm gonna tell you something.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna give everybody a little preview book number two. Okay,
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: Leroy Jethrow Gribbs aka Mark Harmon.
- 1:22:17Speaker 4: He's gonna be in there with me because I'm a
- 1:22:19Speaker 4: part of what this guy is all.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: Marvin, God help me if he watches it as a
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: just remember my character is after Mark Harmon.
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: Marvin, and if you watch that show, oh god, I'm working.
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: With this guy.
- 1:22:29Speaker 6: Help me.
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: Let me get the hell out of here.
- 1:22:31Speaker 15: With this guy, I've got to just give you a
- 1:22:34Speaker 15: point of reference.
- 1:22:35Speaker 7: Four and fifty kilometers is two hundred and seventy nine
- 1:22:40Speaker 7: point six one seven miles.
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: Seventy nine miles. Really, you got you walk that far?
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: I can't walk two three miles.
- 1:22:51Speaker 7: Yep, Oh that's a lot.
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: I was waiting for missus research. Come on, I saw murders, right, Harvin, Okay,
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: good to know. Yeah, all right, Marvin, good stuff. You
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: gave me some more information than even all right, go ahead, Tony,
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: take this thing.
- 1:23:11Speaker 14: You know what I'm a I'm a go movie and
- 1:23:14Speaker 14: sports reference, I mean and TV show reference on this.
- 1:23:19Speaker 12: He turned into Forrest Gump to avoid ending up on Snapped.
- 1:23:23Speaker 14: Okay, and if you never if you want to know
- 1:23:26Speaker 14: about another show Scott, Snapped is when women go crazy
- 1:23:29Speaker 14: and they kill their man.
- 1:23:31Speaker 12: All right, so it's called snap s n a p yep.
- 1:23:39Speaker 6: Past tense.
- 1:23:39Speaker 14: So p E d at a peed to that Snapped
- 1:23:43Speaker 14: and yeah, yeah, because it is about stories that have
- 1:23:48Speaker 14: already happened.
- 1:23:49Speaker 12: So he turned into Forrest Gump and he just went
- 1:23:51Speaker 12: to running.
- 1:23:52Speaker 14: He did all those miles, probably to avoid being on
- 1:23:56Speaker 14: Snap because who that's a long way, man, I don't know.
- 1:24:01Speaker 14: And what what mile market did you feel like? You
- 1:24:03Speaker 14: know what, I think I've cooled off enough now. I
- 1:24:06Speaker 14: think one or two miles might have done it for me.
- 1:24:08Speaker 14: But he needed to do two hundred and sixty one.
- 1:24:10Speaker 14: That's a crazy uh crazy feet he probably could have.
- 1:24:15Speaker 14: Hopefully he's on Guinness or something. He deserves something for this.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well, such you what I know about the metric system.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: I was really never big on it.
- 1:24:24Speaker 4: You know what happened. And here's a little story. I'm
- 1:24:26Speaker 4: gonna run by all y'all ready for this.
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: I'm driving in Canada, okay, and obviously when you're driving
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: in Canada, I'm sure the cliff you've probably been there
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: a few times, right, you know?
- 1:24:36Speaker 4: I had Oh, okay, well, I'm going from.
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: Detroit to Toronto anyhow, because i've covered the blue Jays
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: and the Tigers, okay, or no, what was it the
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: blue Jays. No, wasn't the blue Jays and the Tigers.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: It's the blue Jays at somebody I'll never forget. I
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: had to switch the uh, the sdometer over the kilometers.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: I thought I was going one hundred and twenty miles
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: an hour, not one hundred and twenty minutes. I didn't
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: know that was some of the up so he talked
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: about a little bit of a shell shock when it
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: comes to switching it over all, Right, Candy, give me
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: all this metric system going. Do you have anything to
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: add to the actual topic about getting away from somebody
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: when people get upset?
- 1:25:16Speaker 7: Of course, everybody has has their what they need to
- 1:25:21Speaker 7: do to take themselves out of a situation when they're upset.
- 1:25:26Speaker 7: Was he smart enough to do that?
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: Yes?
- 1:25:29Speaker 7: Obviously walking you know, two hundred and eighty miles is
- 1:25:35Speaker 7: really uh Forrest Gump, like Tony said, smart on his
- 1:25:42Speaker 7: part to walk away, because sometimes that's what you need
- 1:25:46Speaker 7: to do, is you need to walk away. You need
- 1:25:48Speaker 7: to clear your mind, get a different perspective. Obviously, two
- 1:25:53Speaker 7: hundred and eighty miles is a long ways to go.
- 1:25:57Speaker 7: He was actually stopped by police that like two am
- 1:26:00Speaker 7: after he had walked. But uh, yeah, I don't know
- 1:26:06Speaker 7: what the argument was about or entailed. Uh, but that's
- 1:26:12Speaker 7: quite quite a distance to clear your mind or get
- 1:26:18Speaker 7: your mind straight.
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: Everybody thought I was insane walking ten miles in Deerfield
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: Beach just to try to lose weight. Well, I guess
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: that was probably like two hundred and seventy behind this guy,
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: I go ahead left.
- 1:26:31Speaker 8: That that's that's that's bonkers to me. I've been married
- 1:26:35Speaker 8: thirty years and yeah, I've never had to go to
- 1:26:40Speaker 8: that extreme. Uh to get way that far my min
- 1:26:44Speaker 8: from I get along pretty well, so I wouldn't have
- 1:26:48Speaker 8: to be anything that extreme. But yeah, I'm I mean,
- 1:26:50Speaker 8: I'm all about getting stabs. I'm not. I walked regularly,
- 1:26:54Speaker 8: you know, four and a half miles get to at
- 1:26:56Speaker 8: least to start off a day if I can. But
- 1:26:59Speaker 8: oh my gosh, too hundred and seventy nine miles just
- 1:27:02Speaker 8: keep going and going and going that And just like
- 1:27:04Speaker 8: you guys are saying, that's me, my thought of Forrest
- 1:27:07Speaker 8: Gump went immediately to that mindset too.
- 1:27:12Speaker 12: Wow, it's.
- 1:27:14Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know the
- 1:27:17Speaker 8: dynamics of that relationship or what's going on in there.
- 1:27:20Speaker 8: And maybe it was probably a good idea to go
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: that far. You don't know, you don't know what's going
- 1:27:26Speaker 8: on there. But hey, he's okay. I guess he's okay.
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: I think I think it'll you know, cooler hair. It's
- 1:27:34Speaker 8: definitely got a chance to prevail with that amount of time.
- 1:27:38Speaker 8: So yeah, God, bless. Yeah, so hopefully he doesn't have
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: to do that again.
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: Yeah, port of Mossy and later collected him. Now I'm
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: getting two and seventy eighty mile Now I know as
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: you did it, and as Paul Harvey would say.
- 1:27:53Speaker 4: Does anybody know who Paul.
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: R is in here?
- 1:27:56Speaker 7: Yes, I've heard of him.
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: Well, guess what heard the risk of the story? Good
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: help that I had to do it? All school stuff.
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go back to the Dodgers.
- 1:28:07Speaker 7: Initially, Wait, it's gotta have one more last thing I
- 1:28:09Speaker 7: want to put on there. He was probably he probably
- 1:28:12Speaker 7: would have kept going, but he was picked up by
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: the police because he broke Italy's COVID curfew at the time.
- 1:28:23Speaker 7: We got to add that in there.
- 1:28:26Speaker 4: Okay, Candy, let's go back to the Dodgers.
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier. The art of the group
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: will get a chance to do it. I talked about
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: the tax family for signing him. We're big free agents.
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker obviously made eighty million after Texas saying thoughts
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: about this, Marvin about the Dodgers spend a lot of
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: money in getting hit with a lot of tax stuff.
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it was Marky who said it.
- 1:28:51Speaker 5: You know, in baseball, it seems like the salary cap
- 1:28:54Speaker 5: is a joke, like it's not a real thing at all,
- 1:28:57Speaker 5: and it was put there for a specific reason. But
- 1:29:01Speaker 5: if you have more money, then I guess the luxury
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: tax is the loophole there. And to me, it just
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: makes like why even have a cap if the CAP's
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: not really your real number that you have to respect.
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: So it's strange. I think it's just you know, the
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: rich kind richer and that's it, you know it is.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: I mean, but they know what it is.
- 1:29:23Speaker 5: It's kind of like steroids in baseball. They knew what
- 1:29:25Speaker 5: it was, you know, but it was good for the game.
- 1:29:28Speaker 5: Luxury tax they know what it is. But it's good
- 1:29:30Speaker 5: for the big markets, you know, for La New York,
- 1:29:32Speaker 5: and that's good for the game.
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: So, Paul, one of these days, if you're the graduate,
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on these baseball shows a text.
- 1:29:39Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna do.
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: One of these days, I'm gonna put you on a
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: Saturday baseball show with some of my young pups. I
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: guarantee you we're gonna well, we need to do, Marvin.
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: Here is what I'm going to tell you right now,
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: did you consider me your mentor.
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: What do you call it?
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: What do I what do I call you?
- 1:29:56Speaker 14: Or?
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: Yeah, Scott, you know you're somebody who given me an
- 1:30:00Speaker 5: opportunity and I'm thankful for that. So whatever titles fits that,
- 1:30:07Speaker 5: that's what you are. At times I've thought you were
- 1:30:09Speaker 5: a mentor. At times I've thought you were a coach.
- 1:30:15Speaker 5: We'll leave it at that.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: And now he doesn't know what to consider me.
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: Probably, I mean, I'm saying, you know, it's I'm not
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: sure what you're looking for.
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: It's okay, it's a fair answer, So you know when
- 1:30:29Speaker 1: I'm looking for you. Okay, since since the football, I'm
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: gonna here's what I'm gonna do, Marvin. We'll talk in private.
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: Maybe one of these days, I'm gonna put you on
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: a Saturday baseball show with some of my kids, and
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. We gotta break into
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: that sport just a little bit, Okay, just a little
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: You don't have to come on every week. Well, we'll
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: figure it out. I've got a good b team here
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: and these kids are brank kids, man. I'm telling you,
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: these guys are good right, candy and totally he's on
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: that damn show, right, Tony, what do you think of
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: our team on Saturday?
- 1:30:58Speaker 12: It's fun, It's fine. I like it all right, And he.
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: All right to talk about the Dodgers situation.
- 1:31:07Speaker 12: Uh man, it's I have no problem with it, honestly.
- 1:31:13Speaker 14: Like if you all these teams got money, were talking
- 1:31:17Speaker 14: about billionaires owners trying to convince us that they don't
- 1:31:21Speaker 14: have money to spend, spend the money, you know, And
- 1:31:24Speaker 14: I think that I would hope that the Dodgers would
- 1:31:27Speaker 14: put more pressure on teams to spend the money. But no,
- 1:31:30Speaker 14: there you got teams like Minnesota saying we can't, we
- 1:31:34Speaker 14: can't go above what our threshold is, and they've got
- 1:31:38Speaker 14: money saved up for a lockout.
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: So I like it.
- 1:31:43Speaker 14: I like the idea of teams trying to put the
- 1:31:46Speaker 14: best product out possible, you know.
- 1:31:49Speaker 12: I feel like that's the job.
- 1:31:50Speaker 14: That's the one job that every team has, and that's
- 1:31:53Speaker 14: to try and compete, to win and do everything in
- 1:31:56Speaker 14: their power to win. I'm a Lakers fan, Marvin, You're
- 1:31:59Speaker 14: a Lakers fan. Look, the Lakers won a lot of
- 1:32:01Speaker 14: championships and that was their only business. Okay, So like
- 1:32:05Speaker 14: I under I like a team in a professional sport
- 1:32:09Speaker 14: that they weren't billionaires outside of basketball, but they put
- 1:32:13Speaker 14: everything into basketball to make money and to please their fans.
- 1:32:18Speaker 14: I feel like all the baseball teams that are hating
- 1:32:21Speaker 14: on that situation should look at a Lakers model and
- 1:32:24Speaker 14: actually care more about the fans and actually putting.
- 1:32:27Speaker 12: Out a winning product because they got the money they
- 1:32:29Speaker 12: could spend it.
- 1:32:31Speaker 7: Candy, you know, I would semi argue with you, Tony. Yes,
- 1:32:38Speaker 7: a lot of owners have a lot of money, but
- 1:32:41Speaker 7: not everybody has to spend a lot to have a
- 1:32:43Speaker 7: good product on the field. The Brewers don't spend as
- 1:32:47Speaker 7: much money, and yet they haven't won the World Series.
- 1:32:51Speaker 7: But how often have they been in the playoffs the
- 1:32:53Speaker 7: last how many years? So yes, maybe to win the
- 1:32:57Speaker 7: World Series sometimes you have to.
- 1:33:00Speaker 12: Buy your way there.
- 1:33:03Speaker 15: But I think some of it also is motivation, some
- 1:33:05Speaker 15: of it's luck some of it And the reason why
- 1:33:08Speaker 15: I say luck is how many players get injured and
- 1:33:11Speaker 15: how many of your players at the end.
- 1:33:13Speaker 7: Of the year are are hot and the team is
- 1:33:16Speaker 7: playing hot. So am I upset that the Dodgers spend
- 1:33:21Speaker 7: that kind of BOKU money? Well, what did it do
- 1:33:24Speaker 7: for the Mets last year? They spent boku money, and look,
- 1:33:27Speaker 7: they didn't make the playoffs, so it doesn't guarantee. Yes,
- 1:33:32Speaker 7: you're more likely to make the playoffs, but it doesn't
- 1:33:36Speaker 7: guarantee it. I think we're looking at next year, we're
- 1:33:40Speaker 7: gonna have a lockout. We're gonna because they're they're they're gonna,
- 1:33:44Speaker 7: you know, strike, and they're not gonna come to an agreement.
- 1:33:47Speaker 7: Whether we need to have a salary cap, what that
- 1:33:49Speaker 7: salary cap is, do we need a floor? All of
- 1:33:53Speaker 7: those are going to be battled out in negotiations during
- 1:33:58Speaker 7: the lockout next year.
- 1:33:59Speaker 8: I believe Cliff uh Candy still a little bit of
- 1:34:04Speaker 8: my thunder there mentioning the Mets because I am a
- 1:34:07Speaker 8: Mets fan, and I'm like, it doesn't matter how much
- 1:34:10Speaker 8: money you spend, they don't know how to spend it correctly, Okay,
- 1:34:15Speaker 8: that there's a difference in spending spending, And then I'm
- 1:34:18Speaker 8: I'm sick of watching the Dodgers just throw money ear
- 1:34:22Speaker 8: left and right.
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: But I can't. Who am I to talk.
- 1:34:25Speaker 8: I'm from New York, I'm a Mets fan. It's you know,
- 1:34:29Speaker 8: it's so I've I maybe some sort of cap, but
- 1:34:35Speaker 8: and and I feel bad for the teams, the small
- 1:34:38Speaker 8: market teams because uh, you know, they never seem to
- 1:34:42Speaker 8: like really get over the hump. And and I'm yeah,
- 1:34:45Speaker 8: it's it's gotten silly with the Dodgers now, they's just
- 1:34:48Speaker 8: the their entire team seems to be an all star team.
- 1:34:52Speaker 8: And it just took Edwin Diez away, all right, So
- 1:34:57Speaker 8: it's yeah, it's I'm sick of watching that. But it
- 1:35:00Speaker 8: was the Yankees before that, and uh, you know, but
- 1:35:03Speaker 8: they haven't won nine right, Oh I was the last
- 1:35:07Speaker 8: time they won. Right, Yeah, it's they've been more spending money,
- 1:35:11Speaker 8: leapt and right, you know, So it's you know, it's
- 1:35:14Speaker 8: it's what you do. And there's so many are things
- 1:35:16Speaker 8: that go along with it. And you're right, the lockout
- 1:35:19Speaker 8: is gonna hit. They're gonna do something. They might I
- 1:35:22Speaker 8: don't know. I don't know if they'll ever go with
- 1:35:24Speaker 8: a hard cap, but we'll see, we'll see.
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, I like bad buy Buzz
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: at one time was the least light baseball player in
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: the world.
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: Past.
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: That's a great segue where we're going with this, because
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: now Netflix is pursuing very bonds first exclusive coverage on
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: Opening David through the Giants and the Yankees for the athletics.
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: Netflix is also trying to sign seat for the broadcast.
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: All right, clip, what are your thoughts about Netflix trying
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: to bring on Bonds and then Savanthia.
- 1:35:59Speaker 8: Uh, Bonds know people are gonna want to want to
- 1:36:02Speaker 8: hear him talk. I mean, yeah, he's not in the
- 1:36:04Speaker 8: Hall of Fame, but we know what he did. Everybody
- 1:36:07Speaker 8: knows what he did. It's it's television, you know, it's
- 1:36:10Speaker 8: it's engaging. People are gonna want to hear it. If
- 1:36:13Speaker 8: it's going to bring in extra ratings, sure, and lots
- 1:36:16Speaker 8: of people love Sabathia, so I guess to kind of
- 1:36:18Speaker 8: go with a I'm not saying there one's a good
- 1:36:21Speaker 8: guy or a bad guy, but the whole villain hero
- 1:36:24Speaker 8: character with Sabathi was kind of loved and that might
- 1:36:28Speaker 8: be what they're kind of doing. And I mean, if
- 1:36:31Speaker 8: he can get him his talk, if you can get
- 1:36:34Speaker 8: Bonds to talk, I mean, that's what he's getting hired for.
- 1:36:36Speaker 8: Because you know, when he was playing he was kind
- 1:36:39Speaker 8: of a kind of difficult, right, So yeah, so if
- 1:36:44Speaker 8: you give him enough money, Yeah, it's about the ratings.
- 1:36:47Speaker 8: We'll see what to see what he's gonna do so.
- 1:36:49Speaker 8: I'm not really surprised Netflix will do anything they can
- 1:36:51Speaker 8: to get eyes.
- 1:36:53Speaker 12: Well.
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: One of the things that's talked on the Hall of
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Fame number one was his treatment to the media was awful.
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: They'll probably even tell it to this day that he
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: should have treated the media better. Here's the thing I
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: can tell you right now, okay, and that's this. I
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: covered the Marlins and the Giants in that big game
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: where they ran in the pubs. Rodriguez made that incredible
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: play at the plate. I didn't want to talk to
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: Berry Bonch, you know I ended up doing. I went
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: into Marlins blubhouse and got dosal Champagne and I alays
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: have the ball in there, getting every interview I could
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: get my hands on. And if you've ever been soaked
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: by Champagne inside of a locker room like that, it's
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: just so unbelievable.
- 1:37:33Speaker 4: Exhilarating feeling on the planet. It was unbelievable.
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: And to see Barry Bonds, I don't like the guy.
- 1:37:40Speaker 1: I never wanted to talk to him and I still
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: never want to talk to him, and I still think
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: he's a fraud.
- 1:37:45Speaker 4: But if they feel but this guy.
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: Here, you're putting him on TV giving him an audition
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: pretty much of what they're doing to see if he's
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: any good. We'll find out, but I'm not holding my breath.
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: And besides it, Don mannically didn't like Bonds. It's another
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: reason why I don't like him, all right, can't Let's.
- 1:38:01Speaker 7: Face it, this is a business, and what are they
- 1:38:04Speaker 7: trying to do. They're trying to get ratings. We have Jeter,
- 1:38:07Speaker 7: air Rid, Big Poppy on the other networks, so they
- 1:38:11Speaker 7: want they got to get some other big names in there.
- 1:38:14Speaker 7: NFL does it, Tom Brady's you know, they're I mean,
- 1:38:19Speaker 7: the big names, the recognized names, are the ones that
- 1:38:23Speaker 7: they want to bring in. We're all talking about Barry
- 1:38:26Speaker 7: Bonds again, so now, let's face it. It's going to
- 1:38:29Speaker 7: bring in ratings and that's why they're doing it. And
- 1:38:33Speaker 7: I understand.
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: Tony.
- 1:38:37Speaker 14: Yeah, we're talking about the greatest baseball player of all time.
- 1:38:42Speaker 14: We're going to want to hear his perspective. But if
- 1:38:45Speaker 14: you ever hear Barry Bonds talk baseball, he definitely makes
- 1:38:48Speaker 14: it seem like it's too easy. So that's going to
- 1:38:51Speaker 14: be interesting to hear him talk about a game on
- 1:38:52Speaker 14: play by play because whenever I hear him talk about baseball. Nowadays,
- 1:38:58Speaker 14: every ball should be it, everyboe should be caught. So
- 1:39:03Speaker 14: it will be interesting to see if he's gonna be
- 1:39:04Speaker 14: a played by play guy or he just talks pre
- 1:39:07Speaker 14: and post game. But we want to hear the perspective
- 1:39:10Speaker 14: of the greatest players.
- 1:39:11Speaker 12: So I'm all for it.
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: Well, yeah, as I understand, I think I'll be a
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: cooler analystity. Yeah, sure, be interesting to see him. I'm
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: not gonna watch him. I have no interest in. I
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: got way too much to do in spring training about
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: this guy. But or actually, but you know, and obviously open,
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: I don't know, not worry about it. But yeah, I
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: give him a shot at Skets and Yankees too. By
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: the way, all right, Marvin talks about Barry Bond, get
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: behind the mic.
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: He's polarizing.
- 1:39:36Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people have strong feelings toward him,
- 1:39:38Speaker 5: whether they think he should be in the Hall of Fame,
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: he's being robbed, or they think he you know, did
- 1:39:42Speaker 5: the game wrong. You know, people who love sports know
- 1:39:45Speaker 5: who he is. People who know baseball haven't have an opinion.
- 1:39:48Speaker 5: So I think it's smart, you know what I mean.
- 1:39:50Speaker 5: At the end of the day, whether people tune in
- 1:39:52Speaker 5: because they love you, or tune in because they hate you.
- 1:39:55Speaker 5: They're all fans, you know, and they're all you know,
- 1:39:58Speaker 5: contributing toward that that viewership that Netflix wants. So I
- 1:40:03Speaker 5: think it's a smart move. I get it, and you know,
- 1:40:07Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure they'll have numbers at least on
- 1:40:10Speaker 5: opening night, on the first run, so we'll see.
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: Great stuff. Final topic of the night, when we want
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: to go, we're gonna talk about pro sports evaluations. Mayasport
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: Ago here in South Florida. That's where the show is
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: actually being produced. The South Florida franchises. The Dolphins come
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: in at eight point twenty five billion. What do you
- 1:40:29Speaker 1: expect to the NFL? Right, and they've been around longer
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: than any of them. Miami Heat actually come into six
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: point zero three billion dollars. The Florida Panthers are one
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: point eight nine billion. But here's the thing, and I know, Cliff,
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably lean on you with the hockey one anyway,
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: no reason they're getting that high because of the last
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: three years. They backed into the playoffs one year to
- 1:40:48Speaker 1: get to the finals, and they want too and now
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: they're sellers at the deadline. Inner Miami actually is one
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: point four billion and the Marlins are one point three
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: zero billion.
- 1:40:58Speaker 4: All right, So Cliff, I'm gonna let you start off
- 1:41:00Speaker 4: on this topic.
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: How do you like where these valuations stand.
- 1:41:06Speaker 8: Well, it kind of makes sense when you're of course
- 1:41:10Speaker 8: the NFL top one always going to be NBAS after that. Yeah,
- 1:41:16Speaker 8: the Marlins always seem to have a problem. Yeah, they've
- 1:41:19Speaker 8: got a couple of World Series, but most of the
- 1:41:21Speaker 8: most part there they have issues. You know, they're never
- 1:41:26Speaker 8: really all that great, and you know, they have problems
- 1:41:29Speaker 8: in the stadium and getting people in there, and and well, hockey,
- 1:41:33Speaker 8: unfortunately is hockey, so it's going to get a lower value.
- 1:41:38Speaker 8: I'm not surprised by the values. I guess that's kind
- 1:41:41Speaker 8: of where they should be. You're exactly right. The part
- 1:41:44Speaker 8: the Panthers won back to back and this year, I
- 1:41:49Speaker 8: don't know what, lots of injuries I think just really
- 1:41:52Speaker 8: really hit them. And but yeah, so and yeah they
- 1:41:56Speaker 8: were I can't tell you how long I wanted them
- 1:41:58Speaker 8: to get moved until very recently when they made the
- 1:42:02Speaker 8: management and changes. No, it sounds it's it all sounds
- 1:42:05Speaker 8: about right when you think about sports. Uh, that's where
- 1:42:09Speaker 8: where where where sports usually ranks of what makes the
- 1:42:13Speaker 8: most money. That all seems in that market, that seems
- 1:42:17Speaker 8: their value seem pretty accurate.
- 1:42:20Speaker 1: You know, old Bill Ziitos, there's a franchise. This guy's
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: a shoot general manager on the planet. Marlin's are based
- 1:42:26Speaker 1: in Little Havana. Have you ever been down to that area, Marvin?
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: I don't know you ever make it down that way
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: Little Havana? You know the general area I'm talking about
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: or not? Because that stading was built on the side
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: of the Orange Bowl. Just so you know, I don't
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: know if you know that or not. Maybe you do.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: But here's the thing with you have to Marlin's. Okay,
- 1:42:42Speaker 1: number one, I'll give you some actually numbers there the
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: thirty four seasons that they've actually been playing MLB in
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: the big leagues, they've only had four winning seasons period.
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: They've never won a division title, and they want two
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: wild cards, and they made them count. One of them
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: they bought and wait, Isaia bought it. The other one
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: actually produced naturally on their own. So because it's surprised
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: me that they're the team that's low the lowest, and
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: it's just amazing how Inner Miami passed them.
- 1:43:11Speaker 4: So quickly.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: And the Panthers literally, I imagine they'd be lower than
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: Inner Miami if it were for these last two Stanley Tops.
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: So the Panthers are Johnny come Lately is what they
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: really are? Andy, you want to pick.
- 1:43:25Speaker 7: Up on that, well, sure, the Dolphins, obviously, NFL is
- 1:43:30Speaker 7: the ruler of everybody inner Miami. They have Lionel Messi,
- 1:43:35Speaker 7: they have you know, big names in their organization. Uh,
- 1:43:40Speaker 7: and they're they built Freedom Park. They're going to be
- 1:43:43Speaker 7: moving to Freedom Park this next year. That makes sense.
- 1:43:48Speaker 7: There's a lot of what I would say, down here
- 1:43:51Speaker 7: is a lot of transplants, a lot of people that
- 1:43:54Speaker 7: weren't born down here in Florida. And soccer is one
- 1:43:59Speaker 7: of the biggest sports internationally. So when you have a
- 1:44:02Speaker 7: lot of people that are from different countries here, soccer
- 1:44:06Speaker 7: is king. I know a bunch of my employees they
- 1:44:12Speaker 7: love soccer, and so I'm not surprised that that is
- 1:44:16Speaker 7: on the rise. Most valuable MLS franchise is in Miami,
- 1:44:22Speaker 7: so doesn't surprise me he'd have had success. So and
- 1:44:27Speaker 7: they play in a fairly good location, I would say,
- 1:44:32Speaker 7: whereas the Marlins, bad location, bad team, bad ownership, doesn't
- 1:44:40Speaker 7: spend money on doesn't make good moves. You know, they
- 1:44:45Speaker 7: they had done mattingly as a coach, and they didn't
- 1:44:48Speaker 7: give him a good team, good players around him.
- 1:44:53Speaker 4: For years.
- 1:44:53Speaker 7: It's been that way, at least since I've been down here.
- 1:44:58Speaker 7: Now I realized they had They did win before a
- 1:45:01Speaker 7: couple of times, but so that doesn't surprise me. And yeah,
- 1:45:05Speaker 7: the Panthers have won the Stanley Cup the last couple
- 1:45:07Speaker 7: of times years, so their valuation obviously goes up with that.
- 1:45:12Speaker 7: They've hired front office well, and that makes a difference.
- 1:45:17Speaker 7: You know, your coaches matter, the players that you get matter,
- 1:45:21Speaker 7: The people that you attract to your team matters.
- 1:45:26Speaker 12: You know.
- 1:45:27Speaker 7: Miami Dolphins, albeit they haven't had success lately on the field,
- 1:45:35Speaker 7: but again, the NFL is king and we all know that.
- 1:45:40Speaker 4: Well, that's not sure for the fact that the Dolphins
- 1:45:43Speaker 4: have been relevant.
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: This century. I mean, the last time they won a
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: Super Bowl is back in their seventies. So the Dolphins
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: are laughing stock. They were once upon a time only
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: had three coaches, and I got three million different coaches
- 1:45:54Speaker 1: totals of thoughts about how they're pecking orders with the five.
- 1:45:59Speaker 14: I mean, it just makes sense when you look at
- 1:46:01Speaker 14: the sports and popularity, but the money is going to
- 1:46:06Speaker 14: always go up. I don't think there's a safer investment
- 1:46:09Speaker 14: in America than if you can invest in a pro
- 1:46:12Speaker 14: sports team. They they're just gonna make money. They're they're
- 1:46:16Speaker 14: gonna be able. They're too big to fail, you know,
- 1:46:19Speaker 14: like you think about these franchises made money during COVID.
- 1:46:24Speaker 14: Nobody made money during COVID. You know, when it comes
- 1:46:26Speaker 14: to businesses, so it may it's only going to keep growing.
- 1:46:29Speaker 14: And this is why you're starting to see sellers in
- 1:46:31Speaker 14: certain sports. Not NFL, but you see the big sell
- 1:46:34Speaker 14: offs that's happening.
- 1:46:36Speaker 12: In the NBA.
- 1:46:37Speaker 14: The Celtics just got sold. The Lakers just got sold.
- 1:46:43Speaker 14: The Trailblazers are going coming up. I think the Bucks
- 1:46:46Speaker 14: will be so soon. The NFL is a little different.
- 1:46:50Speaker 14: But even if you look at Seattle, they just they
- 1:46:52Speaker 14: put the team up right before the playoffs. Lord, they
- 1:46:55Speaker 14: just won a Super Bowl. This is a great time
- 1:46:57Speaker 14: to sell. It's so much money that can be made
- 1:46:59Speaker 14: right now.
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: All right, you have a less word on this one.
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:47:05Speaker 5: I think Tony just knocked it out the park. I mean,
- 1:47:08Speaker 5: I think I think he really said it. I mean again, Uh,
- 1:47:12Speaker 5: these are businesses that seem like they're too big to
- 1:47:14Speaker 5: fail when you consider how big sports really are to
- 1:47:19Speaker 5: Americans or just around the world period. You know, in
- 1:47:22Speaker 5: every country, whether it's soccer or basketball or football. You know,
- 1:47:27Speaker 5: there's golf, there's there's a sport that dominates you know,
- 1:47:32Speaker 5: regions all over the world, and people are people are
- 1:47:36Speaker 5: loyal to it and slaves to it like they are
- 1:47:38Speaker 5: you know, family and religion. So yeah, you know, in
- 1:47:42Speaker 5: regards to the pecking order, it makes sense that football
- 1:47:45Speaker 5: is on top. I'm surprised a basketball that they heat
- 1:47:48Speaker 5: are that close to the Dolphins. I think you said
- 1:47:50Speaker 5: six million, six billion or five billion that that that
- 1:47:54Speaker 5: kind of shocked me. But and when hockey, I mean again,
- 1:47:58Speaker 5: that shows the reality of how peoples look at hockey
- 1:48:01Speaker 5: versus football and basketball. So yeah, not shocking the pecking order.
- 1:48:06Speaker 5: The numbers a little bit off, But other than that,
- 1:48:10Speaker 5: I think Tony and Candy hit all the key points.
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: You know, you say the numbers are off right here,
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: Let's let's break it down just a little for another second.
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: Or so eight million, eight point two five million for
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Okay, because of the NFL and the heat
- 1:48:26Speaker 1: of six point h three. Yeah, but here's where the
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: numbers are really off because of what you just said.
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: The other three are under two billion. That's where the
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: numbers are really off. Marvin Listen, we don't even see
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: a TV over two billion. At one point eight nine
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: billion for the Johnny cum Lately Florida Panthers. And I said,
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: Johnny come lately, okay, because that number is going to
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: diminish when they when they go bad again.
- 1:48:52Speaker 4: It's not a matter if it's a matter of when.
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: Okay. And then you have Inner Miami, which is moving
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: up the ladder a little and it'll probably get a
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: little bit bigger because they're in their own stadium. Finally,
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: after although I'll kill yourself. Chase Stadium out in Fort Laterdale,
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: which used to be Lockhart Stadium site, was a heck
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: of an interim stadium with eighteen thousand. Now they're going
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: to place with twenty five thousand, and the Marlins is
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: just gonna say at the bottom period, there's no way
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: they're gonna go anywhere.
- 1:49:17Speaker 7: I do.
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: How do you spect, you know, a ten fifteen thousand
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: game if you're lucky, I mean, give me a break.
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: Here's the thing, that. We also have to keep in
- 1:49:25Speaker 1: mind about baseball. What happens after that collective bargaining agreement there,
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: whether you have a salary cap is one thing. What
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: happens when the spending ford goes to one hundred and
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: forty million versus the seventy million that they're gonna have. You,
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: what are the Marlins gonna do with that poor attendance? Okay,
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: you're gonna be forced to feel the competitive team to
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: whether they're gonna be able to go out there and
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: find it. That's where the kicker is here. Okay, they're
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: at seventy million, eighty million. They're always at the bottom
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: of attendance in payroll, right right, Cliff your aroar numbers guy,
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when they're forced to spend more money?
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I I.
- 1:50:04Speaker 8: I'm worried that they're gonna like fund because you know,
- 1:50:07Speaker 8: some leagues allow uh taking contracts that are dead contracts
- 1:50:11Speaker 8: to get to your floor in store, uh, to get
- 1:50:14Speaker 8: just to get to the floor. So that's something I
- 1:50:16Speaker 8: think they're gonna do. They're gonna play Shenanigan's with.
- 1:50:19Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
- 1:50:21Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it, And I hate when they do that. Hey,
- 1:50:23Speaker 8: my team's done that in the past, and I really
- 1:50:27Speaker 8: I really hated that when they did that. And you know,
- 1:50:30Speaker 8: it's do you think, oh, yeah, we're gonna force them
- 1:50:32Speaker 8: to pay so much, but they always find a way.
- 1:50:35Speaker 8: You all will take this contract. This guy's actually retired,
- 1:50:37Speaker 8: but so you know, but he'll still be on our
- 1:50:39Speaker 8: on our books. They'll do stuff like that, and and
- 1:50:43Speaker 8: they find ways around it. So that's the thing I'm
- 1:50:44Speaker 8: always worried about when they when they do in the floors,
- 1:50:47Speaker 8: even though it's meant for a good reason, they still
- 1:50:49Speaker 8: find a way to get around it.
- 1:50:51Speaker 4: You know, it's funny how you say that clip because
- 1:50:52Speaker 4: you're a hockey gay, right.
- 1:50:54Speaker 1: Remember when Arizona Coyotes acquired Pavel Dot from the Red
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: Wings and obviously he never played it second for him,
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: but they just absorbed the contract, that's all they did,
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: just so eat up a little bit closer form. So
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: when you may mention that, that's the first thing in
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: her mind. Our great show, everybody, I want to think
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: all and I've never gone with eight before, but I
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: knew a lot of people were going to be dropping
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: an increment. Some of them will be on occasional, but
- 1:51:17Speaker 1: I have to tell you right now after watching this
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: whole show throughout the core here obviously are the ones
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: that can manage the longest. Marvin, You've been on here
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: for a while. You're a staple on this show. Obviously
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: you adapted to the toughest of times when I hit
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: you with Charlie Kirk and then you survive where more
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: many people didn't. Tony find a way to slip some
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: barbs at me that make me laugh. Well, that's good.
- 1:51:40Speaker 4: And now I got Cliff as a new guy in
- 1:51:42Speaker 4: the block. And I've known Cliff a long time and
- 1:51:44Speaker 4: he's a good friend of mine. So the core of
- 1:51:45Speaker 4: the show, I'm gonna announce it on this national show.
- 1:51:48Speaker 4: You got Marvin Paul As long as he wants to
- 1:51:50Speaker 4: be here, he'll be here, right Marvin, Okay, I've never
- 1:51:53Speaker 4: hold you back. And then we have Tony, and we
- 1:51:55Speaker 4: have Cliff the other one, and Marky and then where
- 1:51:58Speaker 4: everybody else comes in for the and what do we
- 1:52:00Speaker 4: have a damn good show with a lot of stuff
- 1:52:02Speaker 4: to talk about. So with that said, Cliff, watchill everybody
- 1:52:06Speaker 4: know how they get a hold of you. And don't
- 1:52:08Speaker 4: forget that you're on here every Wednesday night. From nine
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: o'clock to you know, sometimes they'll be shorter than that.
- 1:52:14Speaker 4: They should be shorter than this most of the time.
- 1:52:16Speaker 4: But tonight we had a lot to work on and
- 1:52:18Speaker 4: I'm glad we're able to keep it. They'll keep it
- 1:52:20Speaker 4: reasonable with a good audience.
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: So so Cliff, ll everybody know how they get a
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: hold of my friend look at word to have you
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: on every Wednesday night.
- 1:52:27Speaker 4: I'm old.
- 1:52:27Speaker 8: So I'm just still on. I'm on Facebook. That's two
- 1:52:30Speaker 8: l's any I l L No one who's how to
- 1:52:32Speaker 8: spell my last name? But yeah, it's I don't have anything.
- 1:52:36Speaker 8: I'm thinking about trying to do my own podcast.
- 1:52:38Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 1:52:39Speaker 8: I'm going to try to do this. I want to
- 1:52:41Speaker 8: do this and see how I do. But yeah, so
- 1:52:44Speaker 8: I'm I've step in my mind. But just Facebook right now.
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: Well, you know what Cliff, I can tell you right
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: now from speaking from experience this act here, considering out
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: what I put you through, great first act. I'm looking
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: forward to seeing you get better and goes on. This
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: is a you did a will of a job Tonightcliff,
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: without a doubt. All right, Tony, go ahead, loll everybody.
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: Now they can reach out and of course, this guy
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: here is my baseball guy.
- 1:53:09Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I can reach me on all social media
- 1:53:12Speaker 14: Talking Game one and then on YouTube Tony Talking Game.
- 1:53:16Speaker 14: You see weekly episodes of Talking Game and Saturday as
- 1:53:21Speaker 14: we do to wrestling to offer SmackDown.
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: So and not only that, he's like, he's one of
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: my key contributors on one hundred eight such as Baseball
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: Talking Talking Baseball as well. This guy he's an MVP.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing I'm proud of Tony. I
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: picked him up on Instagram. All right, Marvin, go out
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: there and put it out there for me. Please, thank you.
- 1:53:41Speaker 5: Yeah, you can catch me on the internet. Marvin pod
- 1:53:44Speaker 5: of third on myself pops Off, Marvin on the Mike
- 1:53:47Speaker 5: is my social media handle. I'm doing a couple of
- 1:53:50Speaker 5: shows a week with the Soft Toard Tribune, and I'm
- 1:53:52Speaker 5: doing two or three shows a week with Lockdown USC
- 1:53:56Speaker 5: with more to come.
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvin, I'm gonna tell you something. I know you
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: period of time, the two biggest shows that you have
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: going for you right now, and you've done your Marvin
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: and the Mic and the Saturday we can Saturday is
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: gonna be Attle seasonal because obviously we're all season right now, obviously,
- 1:54:12Speaker 1: but we'll add another one for the draft. But your
- 1:54:14Speaker 1: biggest contribution to what we do, Marvin, is a sports
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: change and inside the piction in and the one thing
- 1:54:19Speaker 1: I'll give you credit for, Buddy, is to show up
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time except when you haven't
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: university and you got a pass for their thanks for
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: Bruce arians okay, and and you're twenty six years of
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: the other half. Kind of make sure you're going okay there.
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: And what you've done on the sports change is nothing
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: short of outstanding, all right, Katie take his rustle away.
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- 1:56:26Speaker 1: It's always important to be a part of the community
- 1:56:28Speaker 1: that you represent, and I really I've been a member
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- 1:56:33Speaker 1: six seven years or so. I really love those people
- 1:56:35Speaker 1: over there. Every time I get an opportunity to bring
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: a nonprofits pretty good stuff, right, Cliff, I'm sure you
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: know a lot about them, but this one here, I'm
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: looking forward to this audience picking up and also tomorrow
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: night on Sports Rap. Oh, I'll tell you what you'll
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: like this one, Cliff, Dennis Marook is going to be
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: on tomorrow audition of Sports Rap that begins at eight
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: o'clock am Eastern time. You know Dennis Morth in the
- 1:56:58Speaker 1: Washington Oh yeah, well depends right, He's going to be
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: on tomorrow's wall. So we aim to get the best
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- 1:57:06Speaker 1: very loyal group that hangs with us week in and
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: week out, and obviously looking at to add more and
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: more people to make these episodes a lot more entertaining
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: and informative.
- 1:57:17Speaker 4: So with that said, well, I guess I had eight tonight.
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: So this is going to be a first in our
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: history and this will and for all you people that
- 1:57:24Speaker 1: appeared on this show tonight, all eight of you, you
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: just you just earned a ticket and lessons on the
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: microphone Part two, because it's the first time I've ever
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: gone eight and everybody knows eight is enough. Well, I
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: guess what we had eight tonight. So so for Mike, Kelly,
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: Marky Bilson, Tom Shanahan, Cliff Neil, Marvin Powell, the Third, Tony, Katie,
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: and myself, I want to thank you very much for
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: joining us in this edition of the Sports Change and
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: tomorrow night Sports Trap followed off Fire Up. Thank you
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: everybody for joining us, and so I crew, all of you,
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: excellent job, proud of each and everyone, yet thanks every
- 1:57:58Speaker 1: good night
- 1:58:01Speaker 3: Eight