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Deathbed Confessions & A Plan Fulfilled? - Yakuza Kiwami - Part 6 · Replay Reviews

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  In this episode, we hurt Majima's feelings, Haruko visits an adult entertainment venue,
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  and we get a Christmas present from Kashiwagi!
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  Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews, my name is Leah.
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  And my name is Cathy.
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  We are two friends who are here to replay, review, and analyze your favorite video games.
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  And since Cathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them through her fresh eyes,
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  almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
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  We hope it'll be a similar experience for you.
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  Do we just jump into scene 1, chapter 11?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  We are trying to track down Kazuma.
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  Kiryu is talking to the florist who thinks that Shinji's Akami is a worker at an exclusive
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  club called the Shangri-La.
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  But you need a membership card to get in, and it costs a million yen, which, now that
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  I look back, that never happened.
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  You never had to give them a million yen, but we'll get there.
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  Well, the way this chapter opens up, it's pretty grim.
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  You have two bodies, Shinji and Reina, and for a moment I forgot they're dead until
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  I saw the bodies.
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  That is, yeah, that's a good point because Kiryu mentions he had no one else to give
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  them to.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then the florist was kind of taking care of it.
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  That's really sad.
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  Like, Shinji, he's in the Yakuza, okay.
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  I could see him not having a lot of connections, but Reina?
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  Why does Reina not have any family or anyone?
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  And the thing is that her only family really was Kiryu and Nishiki, and not Nishiki anymore.
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  But also, fast forward a bit, when they're talking about the adult entertainment store,
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  Hanako was just toying with the three of them, and it's pretty funny to watch these guys
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  struggle to explain to her what exactly is a bathhouse.
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  She's been through a lot, so I'm not surprised that she's going on a new adventure.
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  I know.
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  Also, I think Kiryu takes her with him because he's left her with Date twice, and he's lost
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  her both times.
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  Yeah.
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  But before we get there, Kiryu has to track down a membership card, and he has a lead,
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  but the owner of it wants something in return, fake passports from a forger that she's heard
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  of.
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  Kiryu finds the forger who tells him, eventually after a lot of back and forth, that Kazuma
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  had come to her five years ago asking to forge an entire person, essentially.
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  So first of all, let's break this down some more.
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  We want a membership card from this woman who says, bring me fake passports instead
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  from a master forger.
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  And then Kiryu finds the passports, gives them back to the woman who says, sorry, I
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  gave it to someone else because he was nice to me.
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  If you recently just gave it, shame on you for doing that and pulling a fast one on Kiryu,
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  but if you gave it a long time ago, that means you never had it to begin with and you still
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  asked for it, so either way, you're not innocent.
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  It's stupid.
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  And then also, he has to go get it from this guy now, but we already have fake passports
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  made.
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  If we can make fake passports, can we not make a fake membership card?
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  That's what I thought.
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  I mean, the only reason why I can think of to not is they don't know what it looks like,
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  but still, I'm sure that they run a good business that they probably know everything there is
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  out there and they could easily make one.
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  That's what I'm thinking.
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  But what do you think of Kazuma having a connection to this lady?
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  I mean, first of all, again, Kazuma knows every single person on the planet.
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  He, yeah, seriously.
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  My first thought was what was he doing five years ago that requires him to do so?
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  And it's, again, not surprising that Kazuma is doing some kind of planning that is probably
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  going to have a huge impact years later down the road.
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  So five years ago, he already started the ball rolling for something.
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  He's up to something again.
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  So Kiryu is headed to Shangri-La and on his way, he gets a text message from none other
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  than Majima and he informs Kiryu that some men have been following him and instructs
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  Kiryu to get into a nearby cab that he has already arranged.
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  The cab takes Kiryu to Majima, whose plan was apparently to have Kiryu fight these guys
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  alongside Majima.
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  And they turn out to be ex-Dojima members who have not forgiven or forgotten that Kiryu
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  has killed Dojima even though it wasn't Kiryu.
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  Is this a trap that Majima has other motives for getting him where he wants?
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  Like, obviously he wants to fight Kiryu, but why under these circumstances?
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  And did he arrange for Dojima's men to be there?
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  It's a good question because he concocts a lot of scenarios in order to fight Kiryu,
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  but after calling these guys butt balls, he does get shot by one of them.
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  So I don't think that he arranged this.
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  I think that Kiryu really was being followed.
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  I mean, it's Majima.
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  Who knows what he's up to.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, how nice of him to give Kiryu a heads up and then fight with him.
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  And then he gets shot, falls into the ocean, and Kiryu just says, oh no, there's no time
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  to help him, and leaves after Majima just saved his butt?
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  It's a metaphorical slap to the face.
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  So some more slapping involved in this game right here.
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  And I think the main reason is either that Kiryu just kind of wants Majima to die so
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  he would stop bothering him, or he just knows that Majima is very competent and he'll save
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  himself.
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  Either way, I thought that Kiryu should have given him a helping hand because that's what
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  Majima did and that's why Majima is involved and that's why he is shot.
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  Does it really take that much time to run over, extend your hand, pull a man out, and
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  dial 9-1-1?
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  He's a knucklehead.
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  He is obviously not thinking straight.
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  I mean, I love Kiryu, but sometimes he is kind of a meathead, let's be honest.
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  Kiryu heads back to Shangri-La because who cares about Majima?
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  They're a little upset that he brought a child, which, yeah, it's fair, he looks pretty creepy.
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  To get them to allow him in, he punches a statue?
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  Which crumbles?
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  It works.
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  But eventually he and Haruka are able to find Akame, who gives them quite a bit of information.
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  But Akame's not surprised that he's with the kid and doesn't even question him.
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  Compared to the other people, they're like, why do you have a child with you?
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  And Akame's like, oh cool, and doesn't even acknowledge it, and then proceeds to start
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  smoking so Haruka is going to be secondhand smoking.
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  She's grown up a little too fast.
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  That's some information that we learned from Akame is that Kazuma was in fact here, but
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  Shinji's associate from the Omi Alliance, Terada, came to get him.
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  Kiryu asks if she's sure that he was on Shinji's side, and she says yes.
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  And then she says that Terada took Kazuma to a boat in Shibara.
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  She also gives Kiryu another helpful little nugget.
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  Apparently Shinji said the Nishigama family is not only looking for the 10 billion, but
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  also Sarah's will as it contains the name of the fourth chairman.
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  And they think Nishiki wants to destroy it so he can make himself chairman.
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  Which gets me confused when I was thinking about that because if you destroy it, then
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  isn't it up for grabs?
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  The only way I can see Nishiki being the chairman is if he takes a fake one out, destroy the
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  actual one, and present the fake one.
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  Yeah, is the goal to just destroy it and then say, oh no, there's no will, we have to pick
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  somebody, and then that's when he makes his move?
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  But they are interrupted by a bang.
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  And of course, it's Majima.
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  He's driving a giant truck straight through the walls of the building.
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  He has a lot of goons with him.
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  Kiryu fights them off.
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  And then we get down to Majima, who has a hostess hostage.
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  And he kind of asks her to date him.
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  And then she says, no, I'm in love with someone else.
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  And he lets her go.
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  And it's kind of an ominous tone for a while until he lets her go.
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  What did you think was going to happen?
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  I thought maybe he would kill her.
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  Majima was holding a knife to her throat.
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  It was obviously implied that he would kill her.
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  So I was worried that Majima would do that.
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  And we know Majima is a bit crazy these days.
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  The fact that he just crashed into a building, you know, he's not a bit stable.
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  He's totally livid that Kiryu left him to die in the water.
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  In the end, he lets her go and says that he values honesty and that just like this lady,
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  he doesn't fake anything for anyone.
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  And he respects that.
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  So why is Majima doing this?
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  It kind of seems like a big leap in intensity.
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  If he's still just trying to get Kiryu to fight with him.
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  I think this guy's Kiryu hurt his feelings.
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  I think Majima is one of those characters where there's a lot of...
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  Shoot, I forgot the word.
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  Dichotomy.
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  I don't know if I'm using it right.
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  Anyways, Majima is a type of character where he has a lot of different personalities that
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  all just blend together because on one hand, he like wears his heart on his sleeve.
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  He is very emotional.
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  He shows how much he cares for Kiryu, but at the same time, in a blink of an eye, he
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  immediately switches personality and is mad that Kiryu isn't falling in line with how
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  he thought it.
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  It's almost like he has multiple personality disorder.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, it looks like he forgave Kiryu for leaving him to die.
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  Yeah, I don't think he is the type of person who's, I forgive you.
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  I think it's like, I'm mad at you.
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  So we're gonna have a fight and then I'm over it.
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  I think all of this is kind of a show fueled by some hurt feelings because even Kiryu says,
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  I can never get a read on you.
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  And we know from Yakuza Zero that Majima does not want to be predictable.
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  And so I think this is just part of his show.
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  I don't think he really wants to hurt people, but I don't think he minds them getting in
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  the way.
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  He also punches the floor out of the building with a single punch.
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  Why shouldn't he be mad at Kiryu or how his feelings hurt?
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  I mean, he's taken a knife to the gut and now a bullet for Kiryu.
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  He doesn't have to take those.
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  It's just an, it's an obsession with Kiryu.
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  He wants to own him and if he gets hurt, he wants to be the reason to hurt him.
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  But he also wants to protect him.
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  So it's that weird push and pull thing that he has in his relationship with Kiryu.
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  It's almost kind of like he's Sagoa and Kiryu is Majima from Y Zero where he's sort of like
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  a protege.
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  He's kind of proud of him and wants to make him better, but he's also like, don't forget
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  who I am.
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  So we're back at Purgatory now and Date tells Kiryu that the MIA are intensifying their
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  search for Kiryu.
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  Anything before we jump into chapter 12?
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  Nope.
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  All right, based off of Akami's intel, Kiryu heads to the boat and finds Kazuma.
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  But before they get in to meet him, they run into Turada who Haruka recognizes as the man
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  who freed her at the batting cages and told her about the pendant.
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  I do want to give credit and recognition to how amazing Haruka is for staying calm enough
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  to recognize who helped you when you're getting kidnapped and that just answers one of the
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  questions that we had.
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  I agree.
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  And when Kiryu kind of asks, why are you doing this?
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  Turada says that he owes Kazuma a debt just like everyone else.
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  I'm wondering at this point, is Kazuma helping people like he's doing all these side missions
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  just so he gets these favors and everything?
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  Or what is Kazuma doing that helps earn people's trust and favors?
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  Could it be?
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  We know he was an assassin and he was damn good at it.
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  Could he be killing people for people?
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  Because that would be a pretty big debt.
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  You would definitely owe someone a lot if they killed for you.
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  Turada leads Kiryu to Kazuma.
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  He first of all says, sorry, I've put you through a lot.
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  And he kind of says this in Y0 as well.
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  He's put everyone through a lot.
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  He literally put Tachibana into a lot.
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  Into the ground?
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  Yeah, into that kind of lot.
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  I'm going to have a lot more to say about this man later.
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  So I think I'm just going to hold on.
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  But it turns out that Kazuma asked Turada to look into the Tojo clan and especially
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  the Nishiki family.
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  We can assume that Nishiki's alliance with the Omi was false and it was really just Turada
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  playing him to keep tabs on him.
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  So then Kazuma decides, now it's time to tell Kiryu everything.
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  Let's be honest, he could have found a way.
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  If Shinji could call him, so could Kazuma.
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  So he says, I'd like to fill you on what happened in the past 10 years.
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  Big surprise.
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  Yumi is Mizuki.
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  You definitely called that pretty early on.
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  I don't know if it's as surprising as I wanted it to be.
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  Or if the real surprise is who Haruka's father is.
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  It's Jingu of the MIA.
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  I wouldn't have thought that.
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  I actually, right before you played the next scene, we paused.
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  But in my notes, I was saying that, do you think Haruka's father is Nishiki Arcadium?
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  Or Dojima?
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  Oh no.
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  I know, I wanted it to be someone, but I think Dojima, as messed up as that would be, would
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  be a good twist.
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  That would be a ridiculous twist.
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  He also then reveals that he's been helping Yumi recover her memories using photographs,
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  or he had been helping Yumi recover her memories.
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  And her reaction to a picture of Nishiki tipped Kazuma off that he was the one who killed
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  Dojima.
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  And so apparently because of this, Kazuma said that he didn't tell Nishiki that Yumi
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  is alive and well?
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  I got really confused.
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  One, why is Kazuma trying to help Yumi recover her memory?
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  And two, exactly that.
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  I feel like I'm missing something.
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  The jump between seeing a reaction to Nishiki doesn't imply that he is the one who shot
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  the gun or anything, or that he's a bad guy.
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  If anything, what if he showed a photo of Kiryu and she just reacted the same, right?
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  Right.
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  They were both there.
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  It's a bit presumptuous.
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  Right.
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  It would never fly in court.
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  But I guess first of all, I think why he was helping her recover her memories is just,
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  I want to say it was just because why wouldn't you want your memories back?
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  But I always feel like Kazuma has an ulterior motive.
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  I just do.
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  I don't trust him.
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  And then yeah, why does the fact that Nishiki killed Dojima mean that he can't know about
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  Yumi or even that he can't be trusted when we know that he did it to protect Yumi?
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  What was so bad about it?
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  I don't understand.
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  I don't understand why Kazuma...
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  It sounds like he just kind of turned on him.
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  We know he lied to him about someone he was in love with, which is pretty cruel.
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  Why do you...
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  Why?
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  What?
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  Why?
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  I also don't understand why is it that she needs to hide from everyone?
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  Like if she already forgot her memory, she's in no danger for confessing that, nor even
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  if she remembered, would she confess and then immediately get both of them thrown in jail?
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  The only thing that would make sense is Kazuma's planning some kind of other plan.
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  I agree, and I think this is proof because we've been saying like, why does it feel like
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  Nishiki is not treated the same or even treated poorly?
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  And this is just proof of it.
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  What did he do that was so wrong?
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  I don't understand it.
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  And then at some point, Jingu, who had been to the Tojo clan often, met Yumi.
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  Apparently they fell in love and that's when Haruko was born.
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  And then Jingu got a proposition to marry the Prime Minister's daughter or something.
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  And so Yumi was like, go ahead.
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  Go ahead, I guess.
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  And then Yumi and Haruko were being used to blackmail Jingu, who then asks his friend
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  Sarah to kill them so that the blackmail doesn't ever happen again.
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  So then we see Sarah overseeing the hit, which Kazuma prevents.
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  And it sounds like he was able to convince Sarah to just hide Yumi and Haruko instead
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  of killing them, which is when Yumi becomes Mizuki.
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  And then this man holding a gun, actually it was Kazuma holding the gun that saved Yumi,
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  is what brings her memories flooding back.
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  So a lot to uncover right here is that to answer one of the original questions about
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  how Kazuma is earning these fears and people like, oh, I owe him my life.
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  So I feel like this is an example of saving Yumi and then Yumi is spared.
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  She literally owes Kazuma her life.
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  She helps him out when needed.
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  So it turns out Kazuma and Sarah had been hiding Yumi and Haruko this whole time.
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  And the 10 billion was never the Tojos, it was Jingu's.
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  Then Shimano arrives.
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  Okay, multiple, my thoughts are really scattered here in my notes.
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  So I'm just gonna throw them out there and they're not gonna be in chronological order
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  from how we see it.
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  Is that it said that Yumi had a hole in her heart and Jingu helped fill it.
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  So what was this hole like, where, what?
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  I feel like it's referencing Kiryu.
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  Kiryu is not in her life anymore, but she didn't know what it was that was missing.
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  But then we'll come to know at the end of the game that this doesn't really make sense.
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  So I think that this whole line is dumb.
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  It's a dumb question.
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  Okay, so I'll just move on.
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  The next thing is that going back to Kazuma knowing that it's Nishiki who did the murder.
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  Is there a reason why Kazuma just let it happen like that?
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  Or why didn't he get Kiryu back out of jail and then Nishiki in jail?
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  Or do you think that it was strategic that there's going to be a plan?
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  So he's going to let Kiryu continue to take the fall finish out his 10 year prison sentence.
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  That's exactly it.
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  He wants to prevent Kiryu before any before he runs to go help Nishiki and Yumi.
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  He's like, don't go.
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  Let me figure this out.
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  But then when he learns Nishiki does it, he and I don't know when this realization happened
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  in correlation to when he gave Nishiki his own family.
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  So maybe Shima knows right and he did give him and he couldn't handle on purpose.
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  I don't understand any of Kazuma's choices because we know he wanted to help Kiryu.
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  So yes, why are you sitting on this information as Kazuma and not you're not helping anybody
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  with it?
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  Well, what about Sarah?
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  Because right now Sarah who went from being super perfect in my eyes is literally helping
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  support a man who would murder his child.
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  Yeah, it all seems a bit out of character for Sarah from what we've seen.
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  But I think that they did have some sort of beneficial partnership.
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  And I'm guessing that that is the only reason he really went along with it.
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  And thankfully, in the end, he sort of backed out when there was another option offered
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  to him.
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  And then my last random scatter note is Kazuma must think highly of Aya who knows she can
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  handle knowing her own father tried to murder her.
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  Yeah, that's pretty rude.
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  And he really acknowledges her.
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  Yeah, I thought that was weird too.
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  Like not even like, oh, by the way, your dad is this person is like, oh, yeah, here's your
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  who your dad is and he wants you dead.
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  All right, so after Kiryu fights off a million people, including a saw wielding person who
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  definitely reminded me of Frank Monera from Outlast of the Lord.
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  He is reunited thankfully with Haruka, Kazuma and Turada because I don't know how that got
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  off that boat before it exploded.
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  But thank goodness they did.
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  They are unfortunately cornered by Shimano who calls out Turada for pretending to be
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  on my side and betraying Nishikiyama.
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  But he says that he was spying on Turada and knew it the whole time.
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  First question, do you think he really knew it the whole time?
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  No, I mean, I don't like to brag in this game.
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  Especially Shimano.
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  And this was my question.
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  Maybe we'll just move it here because Shimano says Turada was basically playing both sides,
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  pretending to betray Nishikiyama to get Shimano's trust, it sounds like.
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  And so this is how he was keeping tabs on Nishiki and the rest of the Tojo clan, including
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  Shimano.
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  I don't really feel like I feel like Turada is competent enough that if you wanted to
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  know he doesn't need to be like all friends and cozy with you.
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  Like he would get things done and he have the connections to get information like he
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  wouldn't need to pretend to side or betray anyone.
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  I think it's because he's doing a favor for Kazama.
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  So I don't think that it's like Omi sanctioned.
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  So I think he's kind of doing this on his own.
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  Maybe for whatever reason he needed to gain trust.
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  Maybe there's just more information in it for him in that way.
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  I guess Shimano wants Haruka.
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  Why?
• 22:40
  Yeah, is the reason that like Lau wanted Haruka?
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  Is it because Jingu wants her dead and there's payout for that?
• 22:50
  I still feel like Haruka is a missing piece in getting to the 10 billion, whether it's
• 22:57
  because like facial recognition or some kind of biometrics.
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  I just feel like there's something about Haruka that's going to be the key to getting the
• 23:06
  10 billion.
• 23:07
  Like, yeah, you can have it, but you need something else to get there.
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  And I think Haruka is the reason.
• 23:14
  Things are looking a little bit dicey until Kashiwagi shows up with some backup.
• 23:19
  Shimano is down, but not out.
• 23:21
  And he tosses a grenade.
• 23:23
  And I saw that grenade in the background.
• 23:25
  And I don't know why when this man is still conscious, Kiryu walks away instead of kicking
• 23:32
  this grenade into the ocean.
• 23:35
  I was actually kind of different than you.
• 23:38
  I was wondering why didn't Kiryu push Shimano into the water?
• 23:42
  The grenade goes off very close to Kazuma and Haruka, but Kazuma does a good thing.
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  I'll give him that.
• 23:49
  He takes the brunt of the blast for Haruka and try to shoot Shimano.
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  But too late.
• 23:55
  Yeah, where was this gun during the fight is my question.
• 23:58
  I think we got to do a pause to do it so long for Shimano.
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  Our big baby Shimano.
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  Mm hmm.
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  Motherf*****.
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  I mean, if nothing else, he tried to murder a child because his plan to kidnap her didn't
• 24:13
  work.
• 24:14
  And so he's like, you know what?
• 24:15
  If I can't kidnap her, I'm going to kill her.
• 24:18
  I have to agree with you.
• 24:19
  I think he's a great Yakuza, but a horrible person.
• 24:24
  He's done a lot of bad things.
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  He's betrayed people.
• 24:28
  He tortured Majima and cut out his eye, potentially assaulted Majima in other ways.
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  Go back and listen to I don't know what episode it is.
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  Our Yakuza Zero episode from season one.
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  We lay out a theory of some potential things that happened to Majima.
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  And now he just tried to kill a child with a grenade.
• 24:52
  So there's really no redeeming qualities for this guy, but all of those bad qualities make
• 24:56
  him a good Yakuza.
• 24:58
  So there's anything good we can say about him is he did his job well.
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  So long, motherf*****.
• 25:03
  So long, motherf*****.
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  Thankfully Haruka is fine.
• 25:09
  But because Kazuma took the brunt of the blast, he's on his way out.
• 25:14
  And he has some confessions for Kiryu.
• 25:17
  She first tells him that he, Yumi, and Sarah stole the 10 billion yen and that Jingu was
• 25:23
  using the Tojo Clan to launder money.
• 25:26
  And my first question is, I don't really know how you do that.
• 25:30
  I don't really know how you launder money through a criminal organization because isn't
• 25:33
  the whole point of laundering money to clean it?
• 25:36
  That's what I thought.
• 25:37
  He has a reverse money laundering.
• 25:40
  So I'm really confused.
• 25:41
  I don't really know how you do that.
• 25:43
  But my question is, do you think that Sarah knew that that's what Jingu was doing was
• 25:48
  he was money laundering through Tojo Clan?
• 25:52
  And that's why he kind of flipped the switch from wanting to help out Jingu and be supportive
• 25:58
  to like, no, I'm going to take all your money.
• 26:02
  Or do you think he was always part of the plan until his interaction with Kazuma?
• 26:08
  I don't know.
• 26:09
  I don't know when he learned it, but it sounds like they stole this to out him.
• 26:15
  So I don't know if we know that.
• 26:17
  And that's a good question.
• 26:20
  Kazuma then tells Kira that he needs to go to Ares to save Yumi because she's in trouble.
• 26:25
  And then he hands Kira to Sarah as well and says that the identity of the fourth chairman
• 26:28
  is contained inside.
• 26:31
  I still somehow feel like he's not dead.
• 26:35
  Because as he was writing the will, he knew that Nishiki and Shimano would be after him.
• 26:40
  I still think that he's alive.
• 26:43
  And he's probably helping out Yumi with the hiding part.
• 26:46
  That's just my theory.
• 26:48
  No comment.
• 26:49
  I'm no comment.
• 26:50
  Okay, yeah, I'm just going to put it out there.
• 26:53
  Watch me be wrong.
• 26:54
  Also, though, you just pointed out something to me.
• 26:58
  Where's Kashiwagi?
• 26:59
  Oh, yeah, that is a good point.
• 27:02
  Where'd he go?
• 27:03
  Kashiwagi is going to be so sad learning about this stuff.
• 27:07
  Did they task him with disposing of all the dead bodies and he's driving a truck full
• 27:11
  of corpses away?
• 27:12
  Like, where is he?
• 27:13
  Yeah.
• 27:14
  And I'm curious how, if Nishiki was there, even with all the differences, would he feel
• 27:20
  sad to see Kazuma dying?
• 27:23
  Forget all the things that have happened in the last 10 years.
• 27:26
  Is he going to feel like he's losing another person that's important to him?
• 27:32
  I don't think he's feeling anything.
• 27:33
  I think he turned off all his emotions after his sister died because it's all just been
• 27:39
  too painful for everyone.
• 27:42
  And so I think he turned it all off and I think that's why he became who he became.
• 27:49
  That's how I see it.
• 27:50
  So, I don't know.
• 27:52
  Would it be enough to break that?
• 27:53
  Who knows?
• 27:55
  All right, so yeah, Kazuma's deathbed confessions, they just keep rolling.
• 28:00
  He now tells Kiryu that he's the one who killed his parents, but not just that.
• 28:05
  Sunflower is an orphanage for the children of the people he's killed.
• 28:12
  And Kiryu's response to all of this?
• 28:15
  It's okay.
• 28:16
  No, it's not okay!
• 28:18
  What part of this is okay?
• 28:22
  Stop!
• 28:23
  The only way I can justify is that Kiryu knows he's dying and he's like, it's okay, just
• 28:29
  like in a soothing way of like, it's okay to die and stuff.
• 28:33
  I don't know.
• 28:34
  And the fact that Kiryu so calls him pops after that and it's just blood is not thicker
• 28:40
  than water.
• 28:41
  Well, yeah, okay, I could see your point of he just wants to make this man feel better
• 28:45
  on his deathbed, but then he yells into the night sky, you were my true father.
• 28:55
  I don't know how you say that.
• 28:56
  That makes me think that he wasn't just making him feel better.
• 29:01
  I don't understand it.
• 29:02
  I mean, I'm sure it's very emotional and you don't know how you're gonna react to this
• 29:05
  kind of thing, but I'm sorry.
• 29:08
  Not even a little bit of shock.
• 29:11
  Because not only did he kill your parents, he killed a lot of people's parents.
• 29:15
  Yumi's parents, Nishiki's parents.
• 29:19
  This is unforgivable.
• 29:20
  I'm sorry.
• 29:21
  This is unforgivable.
• 29:24
  This is like the most upset I've seen you in a while.
• 29:28
  I've been holding on to this since Ikusa Zero, since before we finished that game.
• 29:34
  This and Nishiki's hair transformation and just his transformation in general, but this
• 29:38
  specifically.
• 29:41
  To me, this is the biggest bombshell in the entire series.
• 29:45
  It is a pretty massive one knowing that the link that bonds all these characters together
• 29:49
  is Kazama in a way where Kazama killed their parents.
• 29:55
  And I also have so many questions still like, why did he kill Kirito's parents?
• 29:59
  How old was Kirito when his parents died?
• 30:01
  And just a lot of questions there.
• 30:03
  I'll just tell you that we'll get more information at some point.
• 30:07
  Okay.
• 30:08
  But how do we feel about Kazama now?
• 30:10
  We know how I feel, but how do you feel?
• 30:12
  Because sure, he was an assassin, so he was gonna be killing people.
• 30:16
  Okay, it's nice of you to set up an orphanage out of your abundance of guilt.
• 30:21
  But then to be involved in their lives and pretend to be their father figure.
• 30:27
  I definitely feel really wishy washy because I feel like I don't have enough data and
• 30:34
  information to really be able to completely cite him in it's okay and it's not okay.
• 30:41
  But at the same time, he's killed a lot of people.
• 30:46
  But then I hit me and he was a hit man.
• 30:48
  So Lao, Lao Gui has killed a lot of people too.
• 30:53
  And so I get accounts with the job.
• 30:56
  When it's also perspective because from our perspective, Lao Gui was the the outsider
• 31:00
  coming in to the characters we're familiar with.
• 31:03
  But if you take it the other way, in a different story, Kazama could be Lao Gui.
• 31:10
  So I agree that you could use more information to have a solid answer.
• 31:16
  But I think for the information we have now, I would call him a mother-
• 31:21
  But he did just try to.
• 31:24
  So here's where I'm struggling with the mother- versus a mother-respector.
• 31:30
  And I have a few points on each side.
• 31:32
  So I can see him being a mother- because of the amount of people he's killed, of him
• 31:39
  just pretty much playing Tachibana in a way knowing that it's going to lead him to his
• 31:44
  death but he doesn't care enough.
• 31:47
  And he is just manipulative.
• 31:51
  But at the same time, redeeming qualities of him is he made an orphanage and he helped
• 31:57
  these kids who could have been left to a worse orphanage.
• 32:00
  But it seems like he set them up for success.
• 32:03
  The reason why he's dying too is because he saved Haruka from the grenade.
• 32:09
  He's saved Haruka twice actually.
• 32:12
  Once very recently and once when she was a baby.
• 32:16
  Interjection?
• 32:17
  What?
• 32:18
  This time that he's saving Haruka though, is it not kind of his fault that this is happening
• 32:23
  because he stole the 10 billion?
• 32:25
  Well here's the thing though, he could have left her to die.
• 32:28
  He could have just jumped away, right?
• 32:31
  Like he knew it was coming but he decides to shield her with his body to protect her.
• 32:36
  Like here's the thing though, anyone could have done that.
• 32:40
  Terada could have also jumped in front of them and saved him but no, he decided to take
• 32:44
  them out not caring about Kasama and Haruka.
• 32:47
  So I feel like that has to count for something.
• 32:49
  He could have let her stay in there but he doesn't do that.
• 32:54
  That counts for something.
• 32:56
  But I don't think that it's enough to redeem him considering the part he plays in this
• 33:02
  situation.
• 33:04
  Because I think the main thing, because sure a lot of people in this series kill people.
• 33:08
  So let's even just strike the assassinations from all of this.
• 33:14
  To me the biggest thing I feel about Kasama is I feel like he pretends to care.
• 33:21
  I feel like he's less sincere than he makes himself come across as.
• 33:27
  I don't think he cares for Kiryu or Nishiki or Yumi as much as he, maybe even he believes.
• 33:34
  I think he almost always has an ulterior motive and I think that the level of mind games and
• 33:39
  manipulation that he plays with is not something that we really see on the same level from
• 33:45
  any other character.
• 33:47
  And I think it's wrong.
• 33:49
  And so that's the main thing that I have problems with with this character is he doesn't stop.
• 33:55
  He keeps going and he puts people in situations where they die.
• 34:00
  They go to prison.
• 34:04
  It feels like he uses people.
• 34:08
  I'm with you.
• 34:09
  And here's where I'm going a lot of back and forth.
• 34:11
  So I'm going to contemplate devil's advocate with myself.
• 34:14
  It's that one is why is he doing this?
• 34:17
  Is he doing it for the better of society?
• 34:19
  But at the same time, and I've made this point before, he's taking away people's control.
• 34:24
  People should have the option to do so.
• 34:26
  Like the whole Makoto Majima situation is taking away their chance or their opportunity
• 34:32
  to do something.
• 34:33
  And I feel like that's what Kazama is doing.
• 34:35
  And that's the other thing is that even though he's doing all these bad things, the good
• 34:41
  things that he has been doing throughout the time like saving Haruka and everything and
• 34:47
  creating this orphanage and also the results of his actions, do those outweigh the means
• 34:54
  to it?
• 34:55
  Do the costs outweigh the benefits or does the benefit outweigh the cost?
• 34:59
  I hear what you're saying.
• 35:00
  I think the issue is we've never seen it turn out good.
• 35:07
  Because in Y0 it's like, OK, your plan worked, but how many people died?
• 35:11
  And then your plan was to just have control of the Tojo Clan to have your man, Sarah,
• 35:16
  in control.
• 35:17
  Is that a good motive?
• 35:18
  I don't know.
• 35:19
  It doesn't really seem like it's for the betterment of society because it's organized crime.
• 35:25
  And so I guess I don't think we have enough evidence to say it's for good.
• 35:31
  You know what I mean?
• 35:32
  I don't think it's enough evidence to outweigh the manipulation.
• 35:36
  I feel like I need to be able to change my answer as I get to see more of the results
• 35:42
  of what Kazama has done.
• 35:43
  Yeah, that's fine.
• 35:45
  I think you can have yours as tentative.
• 35:47
  Here's why I think ultimately it's going to be a very close to neutral tentative, so long
• 35:55
  with our respect, actually, is that all these people are saying that they owe their lives
• 36:00
  to Kazama.
• 36:03
  And the fact that Kiryu also in the end still respects Kazama.
• 36:08
  Kashiwagi, one of my favorite characters, is still siding with Kazama.
• 36:14
  Just everyone and Sarah trusting his will.
• 36:16
  It's just like so many people trust him that I feel like he must have done enough good
• 36:23
  to earn all these people trust.
• 36:24
  And I think he must be a good enough person to be able to get so many people to still
• 36:28
  stick with him till the end.
• 36:30
  I see that side of it.
• 36:32
  And I think people like for like Tarada and everyone else who says, oh, I owe Kazama to
• 36:38
  me because of the one example that we've had of both sides is Tachibana.
• 36:44
  And that ended in not only his death, but some other pretty tragic occurrences.
• 36:51
  I don't think we can say if it was I'm helping you because I want to help you, or if it's
• 36:58
  I'm helping you because it's part of my plan, or I'm helping you because I could see using
• 37:06
  a favor for me would be really beneficial down the road.
• 37:10
  And so for me, I feel like we have more examples of him being manipulative and outright admitting
• 37:14
  it and apologizing for it.
• 37:17
  One of the hardest things to redeem yourself from is using somebody who has so much respect
• 37:25
  for you, which is what he did to carry you in Nishiki.
• 37:27
  I feel like that's one of the hardest things in my perspective, because I value loyalty
• 37:32
  to my core is pretty unforgivable.
• 37:36
  And I feel like that's why I put him solidly in the mother for category.
• 37:42
  I think if I was coming more from the loyalty standpoint, I'd agree with you that in a way
• 37:49
  he's betraying people's trust because of his own personal missions to do certain things.
• 37:58
  And I can see that I think for me, it's like everything that's out too close right now.
• 38:03
  Am I allowed to say a mother neutral?
• 38:07
  If that's where you're at.
• 38:09
  I feel like I have to go with mother neutral.
• 38:11
  I just don't see, I don't know enough about the results and everything.
• 38:16
  And I don't know if that even though if he did everything wrong, if he did it for the
• 38:21
  right reasons, but the wrong way.
• 38:24
  I just don't know.
• 38:25
  I'm not insufficient data.
• 38:28
  So I'm just going to say mother neutral.
• 38:31
  Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
• 38:33
  There's more evidence for good deeds than with a Shimano or an Oda.
• 38:38
  We'll keep your tab open for so long for Kazama.
• 38:43
  So I guess so long mother for neutral.
• 38:48
  For neutral.
• 38:49
  For neutral.
• 38:50
  For neutral.
• 38:51
  Neutral with a hint of fucker.
• 38:58
  We have to not beat that.
• 39:00
  That was a pretty good one, I will admit.
• 39:02
  We might let the beep rest for that one.
• 39:05
  It's pretty good.
• 39:07
  Anything else for this episode?
• 39:08
  So I'm curious what you think the will is like based off of your knowledge up to here,
• 39:13
  not based on your knowledge of everything.
• 39:16
  Wow, theory wise, I think Sarah is going to write Yumi that he's been secretly preparing
• 39:22
  Yumi to take on being a chairwoman.
• 39:28
  I don't know if you can tell me, does this get resolved at the end of the finale or is
• 39:32
  this going to bleed into a will?
• 39:35
  The will?
• 39:36
  Oh no, like everything.
• 39:37
  I'm not going to answer your question.
• 39:40
  Okay, sounds good.
• 39:42
  But we'll get there soon in the next episode.
• 39:44
  Most of the time.
• 39:45
  I mean, I threw my theories out there, but most of them I also don't expect you to answer
• 39:49
  it.
• 39:50
  Rhetorical questions.
• 39:54
  Is that it?
• 39:55
  Yeah, I think so.
• 39:56
  All right.
• 39:57
  We'll wrap up this game next week.
• 39:59
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• 40:01
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• 40:06
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• 40:23
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