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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking and thanks for joining us for the
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- 0:17Wow. We're tackling a big one, a
- 0:20really foundational instruction from Jesus, but one that's,
- 0:23let's be honest, often difficult.
- 0:25It's the command to love our enemies and pray for those who
- 0:29abuse us. It's just some nice idea.
- 0:31It's right there in the text. We're digging into some great
- 0:34material, leaning heavily on John Piper's work, All that
- 0:36Jesus commanded, plus our own notes.
- 0:39Our goal today to really get the full picture of this command,
- 0:42not just what love your enemies means on the surface, but how it
- 0:45connects with, well, the reality of evil, what real prayer looks
- 0:48like in this context, and that huge offer of forgiveness at the
- 0:50core of our faith. You might actually discover some
- 0:53angles on Christian love you haven't quite considered before.
- 0:56So let's start right at the heart of it.
- 0:57Jesus's own words, Matthew 5.44, he says plainly, love your
- 1:01enemies and pray for those who persecute you.
- 1:04And Luke 6.28 echoes it, adding pray for those who abuse you.
- 1:09I mean, when you first hear that, it just sounds like such a
- 1:11high bar, doesn't it? Maybe even impossible.
- 1:13Oh, absolutely. It really turns our usual way of
- 1:16thinking about interactions, about justice, even completely
- 1:20on its head. What these commands really show
- 1:22us is Jesus's specific understanding of love.
- 1:26It's not just about, you know, doing nice things outwardly,
- 1:28although that's involved. Fundamentally, it's a
- 1:31disposition of the heart. It's a genuine desire.
- 1:34This love genuinely wants the good, the true good of the
- 1:38person causing the harm, the persecutor, the abuser.
- 1:41The actual person hurting you. Yes, it's an active seeking of
- 1:45their well-being, and not just their temporary comfort, but
- 1:47their ultimate, especially spiritual good.
- 1:50And we see this reinforced, don't we, in that related
- 1:52command in Luke 6.28. Bless those who curse you right
- 1:56now. Bless here isn't just like
- 1:57wishing them a nice day. In this context, it means
- 2:00desiring their well-being both now and eternally and actually
- 2:04voicing that desire to God for them.
- 2:06It kind of echoes those old covenant blessings like a number
- 2:08six. You know the.
- 2:10Lord, make his face shine upon you.
- 2:12Exactly that kind of thing. The idea is longing for God's
- 2:14light, his favor, to shine on that person, and crucially,
- 2:18maybe to melt their heart. You know, to bring about a
- 2:21change. It's a desire for their complete
- 2:24turning around spiritually, getting right with God.
- 2:27It goes way beyond just wanting them to prosper materially.
- 2:31OK, that really helps from it, but let's get into something
- 2:33that sounds, well, like a complete contradiction.
- 2:35At first, the material we looked at makes this pretty bold
- 2:39statement that true love must include hate.
- 2:43Now hold on, how does that work? Christian love involving hate?
- 2:46It feels counterintuitive, maybe even wrong.
- 2:48Yeah, it definitely jolts you a bit.
- 2:50And this is where we really need to move past a sort of
- 2:52sentimental idea of love that's easy to fall into.
- 2:55If love truly desires the good of a person, logically it cannot
- 2:59be indifferent to the things that are actually destroying
- 3:02them. Think about it.
- 3:03If you love someone, truly care for their well-being, you can't
- 3:07just shrug your shoulders at the things that are harming them,
- 3:09whether it's self-destructive behavior or something external.
- 3:12In a world like ours, which is, let's face it, full of real evil
- 3:15that hurts people and dishonors God, real love can't be neutral.
- 3:19It just can't. For love to be genuine, it has
- 3:22to include a deep aversion of, well, a hatred for that specific
- 3:26evil that's causing the damage. So this hate we're talking
- 3:29about, it's not personal spite, not wanting revenge or seeing
- 3:33them fail, no. Absolutely not.
- 3:35That's a critical distinction. It's described as a moral
- 3:38repugnance. It's a deep loathing for the
- 3:40evil itself, the destructive action or attitude, not a desire
- 3:44for the person's ultimate destruction.
- 3:46This is key. It's not even just that
- 3:48simplified phrase hate the sin, love the Sinner.
- 3:50Where there's a kernel of truth there, it's maybe a bit more
- 3:52complex. You can recognize someone's
- 3:54character or actions as genuinely wicked, morally
- 3:58repulsive even, and still feel pity for them, still desire
- 4:01their salvation. The source uses a very strong
- 4:04example. Yeah, I saw that the
- 4:06cannibalistic murderer and child abuse are pretty extreme.
- 4:09Extremely vile. Yet the point is, even facing
- 4:12that level of wickedness, the command implies, you could in
- 4:15principle still be willing to act for their eternal good,
- 4:19maybe even lay down your life for their chance at redemption.
- 4:21The kind of hate Jesus forbids, the hate that's incompatible
- 4:25with this love is the that actively wills their
- 4:28destruction, that wants them damned.
- 4:30That's off the table. That distinction really does
- 4:32make a huge difference in understanding it.
- 4:34And the sources connect this to something in the Old Testament,
- 4:37the the imprecatory Psalms. What's the deal with those?
- 4:40How do they fit in? Ah, yes.
- 4:41The imprecatory Psalms. These are songs where the writer
- 4:44expresses a really strong aversion, A hatred even for
- 4:47God's enemies, and calls for God's judgment, sometimes quite
- 4:50vividly upon them. Psalm 139 is a clear example,
- 4:54Verses 19 to 22. Oh, that you would slay the
- 4:57wicked. Oh God, do I not hate those who
- 4:59hate you, O Lord? And do I not loathe those who
- 5:02rise up against you? I hate them with complete
- 5:04hatred. I count them my enemies.
- 5:07Strong stuff. Yeah, very strong.
- 5:09What's really significant for us, though, is that Jesus knew
- 5:11these psalms. He quoted the Psalms constantly,
- 5:14and he never condemned these particular Psalms.
- 5:17In fact, he seemed to draw on some of them, like Psalm 69, to
- 5:21understand his own experience in mission.
- 5:24So he saw them as scripture, as having authority.
- 5:27It certainly appears so. Psalm 69 has lines he fulfilled.
- 5:31Like they hated me without a cause or zeal for your house has
- 5:34consumed me. And that same Psalm has some
- 5:37very harsh implications. Prayers for judgement.
- 5:39Like pour out your indignation upon them.
- 5:42Often these Psalms seem to reflect situations where
- 5:44wickedness has been incredibly stubborn, where love and
- 5:47patience have been extended for a long time but met only with
- 5:50hardened resistance. Like in Psalm one or nine maybe
- 5:53in return for my love they accuse me.
- 5:55They reward me evil for good and hatred for my love.
- 5:58Exactly that sense of persistent, unyielding
- 6:01hostility. Now, the hatred in these psalms
- 6:04isn't presented as just the psalmist personal vendetta.
- 6:07It's often understood prophetically.
- 6:09It foreshadows the Messiah Jesus in his role as the ultimate
- 6:11judge. He has the rightful authority to
- 6:14execute judgement on God's enemies.
- 6:16It's like a preview of what will happen on the last day.
- 6:19OK, so it points to final judgement.
- 6:21Yes, and for us today, these Psalms are a reminder, really a
- 6:27caution. We need to leave that final
- 6:29judgement, that perfect execution of justice and wrath
- 6:32to God. We don't have the perfect wisdom
- 6:34or righteousness to make those calls.
- 6:35We're flawed. Our own hearts aren't pure
- 6:38enough to hate perfectly like God does.
- 6:40So our primary calling, our job description in this age remains
- 6:43what Jesus said. Love your enemies, pray for
- 6:46them, return good for evil. That's our focus.
- 6:48That's helpful. The discussion also mentioned
- 6:49something that really struck me. No evil ever hurts only you.
- 6:52Can you unpack that a bit? How does my private sin affect
- 6:55others? Yeah, that's a searching
- 6:57thought, isn't it? It really challenges our
- 6:59individualistic mindset sometimes.
- 7:01What it means is that everything we do, even things we think are
- 7:04secret or only affect us, actually impacts our
- 7:07relationship with Jesus, our delight in Him.
- 7:10And if our delight in Him is diminished, our ability to show
- 7:13him as valuable, as satisfying to others is also diminished.
- 7:18See, God made us fundamentally to reflect his glory, to display
- 7:21His worth so that others might see it and be drawn to Him and
- 7:25find their joy in Him too. That's arguably the greatest
- 7:28good we can do for anyone, right?
- 7:30Showing them Jesus. Exactly.
- 7:31So if our actions or attitudes with the Bible call sin or evil
- 7:35damage that reflection, if they make Jesus look less wonderful
- 7:39in our lives, then we are in effect robbing others of that
- 7:42opportunity. We're obscuring the very thing
- 7:44they need most. So that kind of evil, whether
- 7:46it's harming ourselves or directly harming others, is the
- 7:49opposite of love because it hinders that display of God's
- 7:51worth. Therefore, love must hate that
- 7:54evil, whether it's seeing it in a loved one or recognizing it
- 7:56painfully in ourselves. It gets in the way of God's
- 7:59glory and others good. This whole picture of love,
- 8:02then, seems to push back hard against a common idea today.
- 8:05You know this call for tolerance of all views?
- 8:09The source material says that kind of tolerance is actually
- 8:11the opposite of love. That's a really strong claim.
- 8:14Why say that? It is strong and it's meant to
- 8:16be. It's trying to wake us up from
- 8:18what Piper calls the sentimental slumbers of much love talk, a
- 8:23worldview, or even just a personal stance that becomes so
- 8:26broad, so mushy, so afraid of drawing lines that you can't
- 8:29even call something evil. Because it might offend someone.
- 8:32Because it fears offending the demand for tolerance above all
- 8:34else. That kind of stance, the source
- 8:37argues, ends up condoning what destroys.
- 8:40Jesus was clear. There is real evil that leads to
- 8:43destruction, and there is real good found in him that leads to
- 8:46everlasting life. He drew lines.
- 8:49So if we minimize evil, if we downplay its reality or its
- 8:52consequences, instead of hating it and resisting it, we actually
- 8:56become complicit. We participate, maybe passively,
- 8:59but still participate in the destruction it causes.
- 9:02And that clearly isn't the kind of robust, comprehensive love
- 9:06Jesus commanded. Real love wants the best for
- 9:08others, and that means opposing what truly harms them.
- 9:11It requires discernment, not just blanket acceptance.
- 9:14OK, so we've talked about the nature of this love, including
- 9:16its necessary aversion to evil. Now let's shift to the action
- 9:20Jesus commands alongside it. Praying for enemies.
- 9:23Pray for those who persecute you.
- 9:24Pray for those who abuse you. Yes, and this command, this
- 9:28action tells us something really key about the internal reality
- 9:31of Christian love. It shows it's not just about
- 9:33gritting your teeth and being nice on the outside.
- 9:36It involves A genuine internal desire directed toward God.
- 9:41It's about having a real God word desire for the good of our
- 9:44enemy, meaning we actually want them to experience God's best,
- 9:49not just, you know, earthly success or getting out of our
- 9:51hair. Something much bigger.
- 9:53So what is that best? If we're translating that desire
- 9:56into actual prayers, what should we be asking for?
- 10:00How specific should we get? That's a practical question,
- 10:02isn't it? Are we just supposed to say Lord
- 10:04bless my enemy and leave it vague?
- 10:06Yeah, because sometimes I can feel a bit thin, especially when
- 10:09the hurt is real. Well.
- 10:11Jesus doesn't leave us guessing, He actually gives us a model.
- 10:14The implication is that we should pray the same substantial
- 10:17God focused things for our enemies that he taught us to
- 10:20pray for ourselves. You mean the Lord's Prayer?
- 10:22Exactly. Matthew 6.9 to 13.
- 10:25That's our template. Think about the scale of what we
- 10:27asked for there. It would be strange, wouldn't
- 10:29it, to think that loving prayer for an enemy should aim lower
- 10:33than the prayers we pray for our own souls.
- 10:35That wouldn't be full love. OK, so walk us through that.
- 10:37How does the Lord's Prayer apply to praying for an enemy all?
- 10:40Right, let's break it down. Following that pattern, When we
- 10:43pray for our enemies, we should ask God specifically for these
- 10:47things first. That they would hallow God's
- 10:51name, Meaning, we pray that they would come to treasure God above
- 10:55everything else. That they'd reverence him,
- 10:57admire him, see his worth for what it truly is.
- 11:01It's a prayer for their hearts to be turned toward worship, for
- 11:04God to become their greatest delight instead of whatever
- 11:06they're currently chasing. Imagine praying that for someone
- 11:09who's hurt you. Wow.
- 11:10OK, what's next? Second, the God's Kingdom would
- 11:14come in their lives were asking that they would submit to God's
- 11:17saving rule, that they willingly become his subjects, part of his
- 11:21Kingdom. So basically praying for their
- 11:23conversion for them to become Christians, Yes.
- 11:26Praying for their rescue from darkness, their entry into God's
- 11:28light, that they truly follow Christ. 3rd That they would love
- 11:32to do God's will. Praying that they would actually
- 11:34desire to do what pleases God and do it wholeheartedly,
- 11:36joyfully, like the angels in heaven.
- 11:39It's a prayer for a transformation of their desires
- 11:41so they find pleasure in obedience, not in harmful ways.
- 11:44OK, that's a big ask too. It is.
- 11:47Then 4th, that God would supply all their physical resources.
- 11:52So practical needs as well. Absolutely.
- 11:54Food, clothing, shelter, health, work, whatever they need to live
- 11:58and fulfill whatever calling God might have for them.
- 12:01We should desire these basic provisions for them, just as we
- 12:04desire them for ourselves. God often uses physical means to
- 12:07draw people. Makes sense?
- 12:09What else? 5th And this is huge, that their
- 12:11sins would be forgiven, and that they would become forgiving
- 12:14people themselves. Both receiving and giving
- 12:17forgiveness. Exactly, praying for their
- 12:20reconciliation with God through Christ's work and for their
- 12:23hearts to soften so they can extend grace to others, breaking
- 12:26cycles of bitterness. And finally 6th.
- 12:29That God would protect them from temptation and from the
- 12:32destructive forces of the devil, praying for their spiritual
- 12:35safety, asking God to guard them from influences that would lead
- 12:38them further into sin and opposition to him shielding them
- 12:42from evil. That is incredibly
- 12:43comprehensive. It's praying for their total
- 12:46well-being, body and soul oriented towards God.
- 12:49That's the idea. This full orbed love aims for
- 12:52nothing less than the exaltation of God in the heart of their
- 12:55enemy and their eternal joy in Jesus.
- 12:58It's a love that genuinely cares about their eternal destiny.
- 13:01Even if we don't see the results, even if they never
- 13:03change, As far as we can tell, that's right.
- 13:05The source puts it memorably. Love is the aim of our
- 13:08sacrifice, not its success. Our job is to aim for this kind
- 13:12of love, to offer these kinds of prayers, trusting God with the
- 13:15outcome. It requires us to let go of
- 13:18needing to see immediate results.
- 13:20That really shifts the focus. And Speaking of the ultimate
- 13:22aim, the sources point to Jesus on the cross, His prayer there.
- 13:26Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.
- 13:29Luke 23.34. That seems like the pinnacle of
- 13:32this kind of love. It truly is.
- 13:33It brings together prayer, forgiveness, and mercy in the
- 13:37face of the most extreme persecution imaginable.
- 13:40And it models what Jesus taught his followers.
- 13:42Remember Peter asking how often to forgive?
- 13:44Maybe 7 times. Seems generous already.
- 13:48And Jesus says not 7 times, but 77 times.
- 13:52Matthew 18, He wasn't setting a new quota.
- 13:54He's basically saying stop counting, let your forgiveness
- 13:57be limitless, reflecting the Father's mercy.
- 14:00Like he said in Luke, be merciful even as your father is
- 14:03merciful. Precisely.
- 14:04Imitate God's boundless mercy. Now let's be clear on terms
- 14:08here. Mercy says I will treat you
- 14:10better than you deserve, giving kindness instead of the
- 14:13judgement that's owed. And forgiveness says I am
- 14:15willing not to count your offense against you.
- 14:18I want the relationship restored and these things are most
- 14:22needed, most meaningful when there is, as the source says,
- 14:26real guilt, real offense, which was definitely the case of the
- 14:30cross. OK, but here's where I get a bit
- 14:31stuck. If Jesus says they know not what
- 14:34they do, doesn't that excuse them if they didn't know where
- 14:36they actually get the why? Ask for forgiveness for
- 14:39ignorance? Seems like a bloop.
- 14:40That's a really common question, and it gets to a vital point
- 14:43about sin and accountability. Forgiveness, by definition, is
- 14:46only for the guilty. You can't forget an innocent
- 14:49person. There's nothing to forgive,
- 14:50right? So the very fact that Jesus asks
- 14:53the Father to forgive them is his declaration that they are
- 14:56guilty. They need forgiveness.
- 14:58Their ignorance wasn't innocent. It wasn't like they had no clue.
- 15:01It was what the theologians call culpable blindness, guilty
- 15:04blindness. Guilty blindness.
- 15:06Meaning they should have known what they were doing.
- 15:08They had overwhelming evidence. They'd seen Jesus's miracles,
- 15:12heard his teaching, observed his life.
- 15:14The truth was right there. Their ignorance came from
- 15:17hardness of heart resistance, A willful refusal to see the
- 15:21truth, like deliberately closing your eyes.
- 15:23OK, so they were responsible for their ignorance.
- 15:26Yes, both the Roman soldiers and the Jewish leaders involved were
- 15:29guilty for this willful blindness, this rejection of the
- 15:32light. And so they needed forgiveness.
- 15:35What's so stunning about Jesus's prayer is that it acknowledges
- 15:38their guilt and offers forgiveness in the same breath.
- 15:41It doesn't minimize the wrong. Not at all.
- 15:43It shows us that recognizing that reality and the severity of
- 15:46an enemy's sin must not stop our love, our mercy, our willingness
- 15:50to forgive. The offense is real, the guilt
- 15:52is real, and the offer of grace is real all at the same time.
- 15:56So Mercy is treating them better than deserved, yes.
- 15:59And forgiveness is choosing not to hold the dead against them,
- 16:02desiring restoration. These are essential when real
- 16:05wrongs have been committed. And the ultimate motivation, the
- 16:08power source for us to do this. It comes back to our own
- 16:11experience. We love and forgive our enemies
- 16:14because we ourselves have been loved and forgiven when we were
- 16:17the enemies of God, Romans 5 tells us Christ died for us
- 16:20while we were still sinners, still his enemies.
- 16:23Receiving that undeserved grace fuels our ability to extend it,
- 16:26however imperfectly. We've talked a lot about
- 16:29boundless forgiveness modeled by Jesus.
- 16:32But the sources also bring up something else the unforgivable
- 16:35sin, a potential point of no return.
- 16:38How do those two things fit together?
- 16:40Limitless forgiveness on our part, but an unforgivable sin
- 16:42with God. Right.
- 16:44It highlights the sheer gravity of persistent, hardened
- 16:46rebellion against God. The sources suggest there can
- 16:49come a point where wickedness is so stubborn, so defiant, so
- 16:53deliberately God despising, that the window for redemption
- 16:56closes. For that individual only
- 16:58judgement remains. Jesus himself spoke about this,
- 17:01the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in Matthew 12, which he
- 17:04said would not be forgiven. That specific sin.
- 17:07Yes, understood generally as attributing the clear work of
- 17:10God's Spirit, seen undeniably in Christ, to Satan.
- 17:14It's a final, definitive rejection of God's ultimate
- 17:16witness to himself. And think about Jesus's words
- 17:18concerning some of the Pharisees in Matthew 15.
- 17:21Let them alone. They are blind guides.
- 17:23Let. Them alone?
- 17:24That sounds ominous. It does.
- 17:26It suggests they might have already crossed that line, that
- 17:28God was in a sense giving them over to their chosen blindness.
- 17:32This points to an extended, hardened, high handed
- 17:36lovelessness toward God that ultimately leads to destruction.
- 17:40It's not a single slip up, it's a settled state of rebellion and
- 17:44Jesus is clear. This culminates at the end of
- 17:46the Age, Matthew 25, the judgement scene.
- 17:49The king says depart from me. You cursed into the eternal
- 17:52fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
- 17:55This isn't arbitrary. The source calls it a prophetic
- 17:58execution of what will happen at the last day.
- 18:00God's just judgement on final unrepentant enmity.
- 18:04That's incredibly sobering. Unnecessary reality, but
- 18:07sobering. Absolutely.
- 18:08But, and this is critical for us, well, that final judgement
- 18:11is real and just. We are explicitly warned not to
- 18:14make those final calls ourselves.
- 18:16We must leave such final assessments to God.
- 18:18Why? Because we have a corrupt
- 18:20inability to hate as we ought. We can't judge perfectly or
- 18:23righteously like He can. So even though that line exists.
- 18:25Yes, even though it exists, our job doesn't change.
- 18:29Our Calling remains exactly what Jesus commanded.
- 18:32Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute us and
- 18:34return good for evil. We continue to offer love,
- 18:38prayer, and forgiveness as long as there is opportunity, leaving
- 18:42the final state of a person's soul entirely in God's sovereign
- 18:45hands. Our command is to love, not to
- 18:48determine who is beyond hope. Well, this deep dive has
- 18:51certainly given us a lot to chew on regarding loving our enemies.
- 18:54It's clearly not just a nice sentiment, it's a demanding, God
- 18:58focused command that involves hating the evil that hurts
- 19:00people and dishonors God. Right and necessary aversion to
- 19:03evil. While at the same time fueling
- 19:05this genuine active desire for the ultimate good, the spiritual
- 19:08restoration of those who oppose us.
- 19:10It's complex. It is.
- 19:12It requires God's grace working in US, definitely.
- 19:14So here's something for you, our listener, to think about this
- 19:17week. How might grasping this fuller
- 19:20picture of love, one that holds together hating evil and
- 19:22desiring the enemy's good, change how you respond when you
- 19:26face opposition or just difficult interactions?
- 19:29And maybe more pointedly, what would it actually look like for
- 19:32you to start praying those specific comprehensive points
- 19:35from the Lord's Prayer for someone who has really wronged
- 19:37you? Not just bless them, but praying
- 19:40for them to hallow God's name, for His Kingdom to come in their
- 19:42life, for them to do His will, for their needs to be met, for
- 19:45their forgiveness, and for their protection from evil.
- 19:48How might your perspective shift if you truly began to long for
- 19:51their eternal joy in Jesus, even amidst the difficulty?
- 19:55Something to consider.