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The Future of Reality TV: Love & Hip Hop, Married to Medicine Reunion & EJ Johnson Dating Talk · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Merriti Medicine Reunion Okay, that's coming this
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  Speaker 1: upcoming Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: The reunion trailer.
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  Speaker 3: Has been released listed in my opinion as a Meriti
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  Speaker 3: Medicine stand I am the biggest fan of Meriti Medicine
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  Speaker 3: based on that trailer.
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  Speaker 2: The star of.
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  Speaker 3: The trailer, it's Steve. Steve is the husband of doctor
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  Speaker 3: Mimi and Steve is activated and gave a lot of
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  Speaker 3: great moments in that trailer that blew me away.
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  Speaker 2: Started with you, Dustin.
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  Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on the Maritime Medicine Reunion.
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  Speaker 4: Trailer, master class and how to show up and show
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  Speaker 4: out at the damn reunion. I believe this is a
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  Speaker 4: two part reunion. I'm totally fine with that. That means
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  Speaker 4: that they're going to be two packed episodes for a
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  Speaker 4: lot of twists and turns, which is much more entertaining
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  Speaker 4: than watching a bunch of boring bullshit. So I'm happy
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  Speaker 4: that they're doing it that way. I think that everybody
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  Speaker 4: showed up. The reunion trailer looks incredible. Quid Andoya our
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  Speaker 4: first chair, which is new. Typically Doctor Jackie and Doctor
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  Speaker 4: Simon are always first shared, So that alone lets me
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  Speaker 4: know that this reunion is going to have a certain
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  Speaker 4: type of energy. You got them two fire starters in
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  Speaker 4: the motherfucking first seats.
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  Speaker 5: You know what time is going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, Brandy is showing up in the reunion
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  Speaker 4: trailer talking to Kintessa, and I actually saw an extended
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  Speaker 4: peak of the reunion online today where there was a
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  Speaker 4: you saw that that exchanged between Brandy and Kintessa. Brandy
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  Speaker 4: wasn't playing with Kntessa at all. And Contessa the veteran
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  Speaker 4: that she is both literally and figuratively right in this case,
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  Speaker 4: but she's a she's a reality TV vet, and so
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  Speaker 4: she had a level of composure that you can only
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  Speaker 4: only attain when you've done this more than once. You
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and Your seasons. Kintesla appears seasoned
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  Speaker 4: in their exchange, but Brandy won and that's good for
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  Speaker 4: a new cast member, so I'm excited to see more
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  Speaker 4: of that. Also, in the sneak peak, we saw Steve Sanders,
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  Speaker 4: Steve motherfucking Sanders tearing up Eugene's Harris in that trailer,
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  Speaker 4: and in the extended clip we really saw for the
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  Speaker 4: fact that he absolutely stuck that Louis Vatanshu in the
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  Speaker 4: crack of Eugene's ass, and it was well deserved because
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  Speaker 4: Eugene was trying to check him and trying to like
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  Speaker 4: stoke the flames with doing and saying things. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: gonna spoil it for people that haven't seen that clip yet,
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  Speaker 4: because if you don't, you'll see it in the episode
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday. But Steve is here to stay. Him and
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  Speaker 4: doctor Mimi are a great addition to the show. I
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  Speaker 4: want to see what the new house looks like next year,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm excited and I'm ready for this reunion.
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  Speaker 6: Claudia Jordan, I did not see the trailer yet, but
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  Speaker 6: now I will go watch the extended reunion. I mean
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  Speaker 6: the trailer, but I will say this from the commentary
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  Speaker 6: of the comments I've been seing online, people saying the
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  Speaker 6: reunion looks even better than the season. Yes, that's how
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  Speaker 6: exciting people are for so I'm super looking forward to it, though,
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  Speaker 6: so don't said everything anyways.
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  Speaker 4: Remind me to send you the links of that of
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  Speaker 4: those preview clips, Claudia that's not in the trailer, because
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  Speaker 4: I want you to see what's coming next week.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna be like, you'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely crazy and love. We all know that
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  Speaker 3: that cast always delivers. But one thing that was so
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  Speaker 3: fresh was the fact that you know, like Justin said,
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  Speaker 3: that show has been off for twelve seasons, and doctor
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  Speaker 3: Jackie and doctor Simon have office, have first chair because
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  Speaker 3: the show is about doctors. This season is Toya and Quad,
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  Speaker 3: which to me signals once again that we saw Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: It signals a new wave of what that show could be.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing that they also tease Claudia and this
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  Speaker 3: trailer was whether or not this will be Doctor Heavenly's
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  Speaker 3: last season if she does become a congresswoman, And.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the primary, she's up against a really old
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  Speaker 6: member of like someone that really is in his eighties
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  Speaker 6: in a wheelchair doesn't really make many public appearances. No
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  Speaker 6: disrespect to his life legacy, but there there are people
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  Speaker 6: are really talking a lot about term limits, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: if you're not able to be as effective, she has
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  Speaker 6: a good chance of.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it sounds like he won't even hear it
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  Speaker 4: if she say your mama. So so that's good. At
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  Speaker 4: least her opponent won't even hear her if he if
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  Speaker 4: she said your mama to him, she's gonna whisper it
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  Speaker 4: at the debate on that podium.
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  Speaker 5: She's gonna cover the MinC your mama.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't pay at union of the primary.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I don't. They had their I thought they
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  Speaker 6: had their primary. I gotta look. Yeah, but damn.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, mama may the fucking mama.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and my constitutes. You know she's gonna be right off.
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  Speaker 6: Wouldn't it be dope if she won on the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be great.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, why not. Look if we got in the
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  Speaker 6: White House now, but Pete Hexas, it's all reality started,
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  Speaker 6: will not even really start.
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  Speaker 5: This is reality people, What I mean?
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  Speaker 4: We have a McMahon and what's the others. Yeah, what's
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  Speaker 4: the other one that looked like a little bat that
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  Speaker 4: was over the over the educate the Department of Education.
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  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yes, spells everything wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Dumb, stupid. Yeah, so you're right, the bar's love. If
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  Speaker 4: I was heavily though, my campaign slogan.
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  Speaker 5: Would have been your mama.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah running, she's a health care professionally, I'm here for
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  Speaker 4: you and your mama. Okay, everybody saying that, let me
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  Speaker 4: show you what I mean. My campaign slogan would be
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  Speaker 4: your mama.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, and never mind, never thank.
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  Speaker 2: You Claudia for behaving.
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  Speaker 6: I want you to meet it. You can say it.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, y'all getting stupped in real time.
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  Speaker 3: Let me see claud has to say.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on, let me look.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't say that friend, like leave.
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  Speaker 6: Some blanks and make it feel in the blank.
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  Speaker 5: Lead you. You got it out.
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  Speaker 2: That's why.
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  Speaker 3: That's why rain drops drops. That's why I have a
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  Speaker 3: special announcement where Claudia may be able to really say
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  Speaker 3: things and dustin to tonight. I gotta spare hert just
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  Speaker 3: a lit so bit all right, hood journalist, I love you,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, She's a Patreon rain drop hate hood journalist.
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  Speaker 2: She watches everything on Patreon. Love you all right, say it?
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  Speaker 6: Say it? CJ. I can't, y'all, y'all have to go.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Claudia, you we are listening.
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  Speaker 3: The good thing is we are really your friends.
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  Speaker 5: No after that a little bit, right, So if that's
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  Speaker 5: the case.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, bathta Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So one thing that I want us to get into,
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  Speaker 3: so listen, we're gonna talk about my e J.
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  Speaker 2: Johnson interview, So Rain Johns.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that a second. But before that,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to talk about what could be another
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  Speaker 3: end of an era. We just saw a few weeks
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  Speaker 3: ago that Basketball Wives was officially canceled.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia on Patreon, you can say anything on there. We
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  Speaker 2: will wait say it.
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  Speaker 3: Then, my fellow April b Mika Smith, you are, but
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  Speaker 3: stay tuned, okay.
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  Speaker 6: If my employer doesn't want me to say anything.
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  Speaker 2: That, I won't stay tuned for a new announcement. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that I want to get into rob before
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  Speaker 3: we discussed e. J. Johnson interview is Mama Dee revealed
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  Speaker 3: that Love and Hip Hop Atlanta may not be coming back.
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  Speaker 3: It has been something that we've heard from Chaotic, who
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  Speaker 3: was a cast member on the show, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's been something that we've been hearing here and there.
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  Speaker 3: Mama Dee went live on Saturday and mentioned it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's what's happening in this industry. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about this before.
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  Speaker 3: Its this industry just ain't the same anymore. We just
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  Speaker 3: learned that Access Hollywood, Steve Willco's show, our friend Caroama Brownmo.
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  Speaker 2: Their talk shows got canceled.
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  Speaker 3: We also just learned that Taler Perry sold the twenty
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  Speaker 3: five percent ownership he had in BT Plus to Paramount
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  Speaker 3: because Paramount owns all of by comp which includes BT
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  Speaker 3: and they're not going to consolidate BT plus into Paramount Streaming.
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  Speaker 2: So look, this industry is changing.
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  Speaker 3: So Love and Hip Hop Atlanta is rumored to not
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  Speaker 3: be coming back, based on Mama D's latest post two. Claudia,
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  Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on that, especially as a current
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  Speaker 3: cast member on Love and Hip Hop Miami.
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  Speaker 6: I just do guess appearances.
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  Speaker 2: You're not the opening act. This is the like, this
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  Speaker 2: is the life.
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  Speaker 6: I get a hero, but I am in the mix
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  Speaker 6: the second part when it returns in April. I do
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  Speaker 6: have scenes where I'm kind of you know, I'm stirring
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  Speaker 6: a little sun so.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, I have an usive interview dropping in April.
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  Speaker 3: When Carlos you know, it's somebody that you may know when.
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  Speaker 6: Well a beginning, middle end, beginning, okay, good, okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I mean I'm surprised that they would have like that
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  Speaker 6: one will get the word that is canceled before the
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  Speaker 6: other one, because I think that was the strong that's
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  Speaker 6: always been the strongest one. I always thought that Atlanta
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  Speaker 6: was the strongest one, you know, even for nostalgia purposes,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Like, you know, I've been
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  Speaker 6: working on love and hip hop Miami, and we've been
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  Speaker 6: hearing that for a while and I keep asking and like, well,
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  Speaker 6: not really, but then someone kind of said, look at
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  Speaker 6: the writing on the wall and they are closing things down,
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  Speaker 6: Like so I do know that, uh, people are starting
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  Speaker 6: to look elsewhere for the next thing. And plus they
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  Speaker 6: start back in March usually March, I'm sorry, May usually
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  Speaker 6: and right now, yeah, I'm sorry. Miami usually starts back
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  Speaker 6: in May. Last we did last year, so they wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: like at this point in the game, they would at
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  Speaker 6: least be sending offer letters out and be negotiating for
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  Speaker 6: the next season. So I think that I think they're
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  Speaker 6: getting rid of all of them. Uh yes, guy dances
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  Speaker 6: taken over, right, they taking up everything. Everybody black is
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  Speaker 6: becoming a casualty of this. Uh this anti woke, which
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  Speaker 6: is the anti black work work. They don't care. They're
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  Speaker 6: not prioritizing black shows. And I think it's discussing what's
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  Speaker 6: happening to black media. Was that anything leaning to the left,
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  Speaker 6: and that it's not like something like the seven hundred
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  Speaker 6: Club or maga Ish like it's it's really going. It's hard, right,
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  Speaker 6: and it's it's it's sad. So we have to lean
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  Speaker 6: onto the YouTube, the Patreons stuff that you're doing, Carlos
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  Speaker 6: kind only make your own products stuff. Now is the
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  Speaker 6: time if you want to do a talk show, take
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  Speaker 6: it over to YouTube, make all the money, take up
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  Speaker 6: the middleman. There's still avenues so far. I mean hopefully
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  Speaker 6: they don't do anything on YouTube. But yeah, it's it's yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's over with.
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  Speaker 3: And before I get disgustin Claudia, I do want to
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  Speaker 3: ask you this. You obviously happen again in the Hollywood
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  Speaker 3: game for a very long time. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: really don't understand how serious this is and the reason
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  Speaker 3: why I wanted to ask you this question first before
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  Speaker 3: I get to Dustin, is you've seen the ebbs and
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  Speaker 3: flows of this industry. We've all seen it collectively with
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  Speaker 3: the music industry growing up in this business. But you,
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  Speaker 3: being a television bet, what do you see happening? Because
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  Speaker 3: I don't think people understand that the reality shows that
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  Speaker 3: used to be a cheaper product is now being sacrificed
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  Speaker 3: to have other content on these networks as well.
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  Speaker 2: Like talk to them about what you think is really happening.
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  Speaker 6: I have survived for three decades in this business through
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  Speaker 6: writer strikes, actors strikes, all kinds of things where we
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  Speaker 6: thought that, Okay, we're devastated right now, but we've always
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  Speaker 6: come back. There has always been a consideration for black programming.
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  Speaker 6: And this I'm telling you guys right now, this is
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  Speaker 6: different than anything I've ever seen in my thirty years.
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  Speaker 6: They are blatantly doing it. They've removed shame from banning
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  Speaker 6: black people, from kicking black people out out of their
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  Speaker 6: jobs executives all the way to TV shows and radio.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it is big businesses are consolidating there. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: look at radio shows like before they be like hundreds
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  Speaker 6: of local radio shows where you know, like you'd be
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  Speaker 6: a squad of four people hosting a morning show in
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  Speaker 6: Dallas and Chattanooga and New York City. Now you got
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  Speaker 6: like three or four syndicated shows, and they put them,
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  Speaker 6: they wire them into all the different cities. Everyone's consolidating,
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  Speaker 6: so five or six families or companies make all the
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  Speaker 6: money and then everybody else just scrambles. This is different
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  Speaker 6: than any I am nervous. I am scared. This is
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  Speaker 6: nothing like that we've ever seen. So we have to
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  Speaker 6: just I mean, black people will used to figuring it
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  Speaker 6: out and trying to figure out new ways. But I'm scared.
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  Speaker 6: Like when they the last few things we have left
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  Speaker 6: is YouTube, and they already messed up TikTok, where people
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  Speaker 6: aren't making the money they used to. They are really
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  Speaker 6: doing a number on us right now. This is different.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how we get through this. First of all,
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  Speaker 6: they're not funding movies that they used to even to
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  Speaker 6: be like I hear that like the deals they would
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  Speaker 6: give before, like they're getting less generous with the like
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  Speaker 6: maybe it would be a fifty fifty split, now it's
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  Speaker 6: seventy thirty and not faving the director or the artist
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  Speaker 6: it's it's going to force a lot of people to
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  Speaker 6: have to get out of this business unfortunately. Yeah, breakfast
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  Speaker 6: club and podcasts moving to Netflix, that means taking the
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  Speaker 6: stuff off of YouTube and like making you have to
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  Speaker 6: have a Netflix account. Like they're just taking more and
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  Speaker 6: more stuff away from us. So I now more than
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  Speaker 6: every I know, I'm going along, but I just have
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  Speaker 6: to just make a point of this. We've said this before.
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  Speaker 6: You've got to support the black outlets, the black content creators,
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  Speaker 6: the black companies, the people that are providing a voice,
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  Speaker 6: and then social media, y'all better going our fan base
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  Speaker 6: or one of these other black owned companies fan base.
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  Speaker 6: The way they are targeting black creators and people that
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  Speaker 6: speak out against this war, this government say, certain countries
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  Speaker 6: that don't rock with they are silencing their voices. So
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  Speaker 6: before we can't tell each other where to all go
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  Speaker 6: tell you people. Now, go meet me on YouTube, go
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  Speaker 6: meet me on fan base. You have to because listen,
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  Speaker 6: these white people are not given it. Not all I'm
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  Speaker 6: talking about the racist ones. They are not giving a
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  Speaker 6: damn about all arts. I mean, Trump's renamed the Kennedy Center.
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  Speaker 6: They do that. Other fellow wife folks like they are
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  Speaker 6: coming for everybody, so take it seriously, y'all. It's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be real bad for the next few years. It really is. Sorry,
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  Speaker 6: I know that's how I went on a ramp, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Said, I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted you to really speak to it because it's serious,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll share my two cents too, but I want
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  Speaker 3: to hear from Dustin first. Dustin, you are the connoisseur
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  Speaker 3: of all things media. What are your thoughts on this happening?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we're living it's so much misinformation going around right now.
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  Speaker 5: We're living in the age of.
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  Speaker 4: Misinformation, some intention of some accident on something just stupid.
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  Speaker 4: Clia just mentioned how Trump took over to Kennedy Center
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  Speaker 4: after ruining it and making everybody that was scheduled to
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  Speaker 4: perform there. That's worth a damn cancel only to ruin it,
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  Speaker 4: tank it.
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  Speaker 5: It's not making any money.
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  Speaker 4: There is absolutely a number attached to all of this
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  Speaker 4: madness because in his taking over of TikTok, he has
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  Speaker 4: now just decided that he's owed a ten billion dollar
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  Speaker 4: fee for saving TikTok, So that's coming his way to
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  Speaker 4: ten billion dollars.
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  Speaker 5: So I think it's pretty clear what that's all about.
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  Speaker 4: But speaking of misinformation, I didn't even know if the
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  Speaker 4: love and Hip Hop cancelation was real because it came
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  Speaker 4: from Mama D.
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  Speaker 5: And the last time I seen Mama D.
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  Speaker 4: Which was like two days ago, she was participating in
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  Speaker 4: a senior tork contest on the internet at somebody's concert.
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  Speaker 4: And the way that she was rifthing and convulsing and
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  Speaker 4: contorting her body, I was concerned about her. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know if she was seizing or if she was cramping
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  Speaker 4: or what was going on, the way that she was
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  Speaker 4: moving so sporadically at tight in a ninety degree angles
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  Speaker 4: that her joints had been in, and shit, it was
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  Speaker 4: obtuse angles. It was you know, yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Isoceles triangles, and shit that her the shapes
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  Speaker 4: that her limbs were making that I know had not
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  Speaker 4: been created in quite some time. And so when she
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  Speaker 4: finally stopped, I had to catch my breath for a minute,
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  Speaker 4: because once she stopped moving, I had to make sure
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  Speaker 4: she moved the next time. And so once she stood up,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, okay, So I didn't know the
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  Speaker 4: way Mama did just be lying and talking shit. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it's not unlike her to just spew something out that
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  Speaker 4: isn't factual. But now that Claudia, my dear friend, has
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: shined this light on it, then there's something to be
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: concerned about, which is why I don't like it when
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: people there's this new thing where people.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Try to like shame Love and hip Hop.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, to act like the people
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: on Love and Hip Hop is something wrong with them,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't understand why because love it or hated,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I think it doesn't have to be your cup of tea.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of black producers, black talent, black camera,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: black crew, there's a lot of people that that franchise
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: because it's more than one show employs and has employed continually.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Say what you want.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: But Kirk and Rashida been working since season one over there,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and they're making good money. Her other businesses have thrived
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: and been able to because of that capital that they
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: pulling in over there. Spice, I love Spice. I don't
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: care what nobody say. I love Spice and I've enjoyed
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: watching her on the show. This past season of Love
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and Hip Hop Atlanta has actually been incredible, incredible, So
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: it's a damn shame, and just like Claudia just illustrated,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: we do need to support these shows, the ones that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you like. You ain't got to watch something that you
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: don't fuck with, you know what I'm saying, But trashing
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the show, saying that they're bad for us and all
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: this other shit, there is another sign to be looked at,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: and hopefully if we kind of shift that Lenz, we
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: can save some other stuff from seeing the same fate.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, this is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: I agree, and I think you know, people quick to
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: call it ghetto and stuff, and it very well may
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: be right, but that doesn't mean it's a negative. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: feel like when we just like black people, we say
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: this all the time. We're not a monolith. There's nothing
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: wrong with I've always said this, and I've said this
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: to the owner to let me at zeus. It's long
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: like balance, right, It's about balance. So we can have
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: our cos we show type shows, and we can have
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: our shows like Baddies, and we can have our shows
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: like love and hip hop. There's a place for all
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: these stories like just because that's not your story and
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: your your social circle doesn't look like that. There's nothing
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: wrong with like shining a light on those folks that
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: have that kind of lifestyle. Like this everyone kind of matters, like,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: there's not kind of everyone's kind of demo matters, you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: and you you don't have to like it, you can
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: hate it. But like, I think there should be different
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: kinds of shows where you show the different degrees of
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: blackness and our culture.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that, I agree, and all further
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: to that, just to take it a step further, I
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: think inevitably there will always be shows that maybe don't
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: go along with our personal constitution, our personal you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: the way we live our lives. Right, there will always
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: be shows that show case people that we share some
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: sort of identity with. They may not paint them in
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the light we would prefer, but that's always going to happen.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: So to me, it is a feudal effort to try
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: to combat that. There are positives to these shows existing. Right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: You say what you want about Zeus and I'm not
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: trying to be the Zeus Savior or none of that shit,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: But it's a lot of people working that that may
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: have been doing other things that are not I hate
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: to even say this word, but are not as safe
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: for them as being employed over as zeus. There's just
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: other sides to this thing, and I don't know. That's
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: just where I'm at with it. So if Mama Dias
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: wasn't lying and drunk somewhere and she was actually telling the.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Truth, then I'm sad that that's happening. I'm sad.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So look, this is what I can I can
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: share based on, of course being in the reality business,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: dealing with networks, pitching shows, and understanding a lot more
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: of what's going on. It has been long rumored that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop is on his last days, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of that just has to do with the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: industry change.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I've said this before, This industry is broke and and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that's and ask Claudia in Dustin.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: It's it's not just reality stars, it's it's it's happening
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: all over. Is the reason why when it comes to
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: my podcast, for example, you two know this, I would
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: get dragged all the time, Carlos, focus on your own shows.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: And the reason why I don't care what people say
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: is because I knew that when I got this podcast
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: that I wanted to make sure to talk about all
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: the reality shows, including the love and hip hops and
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: things that people always saw less than. Y'all saw Marit
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to Medicine as less than and the moment I got
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: this podcast, and I'm dropping an interview next week with
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: some people who gave me prompts for this. I'm the
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: one who really told everybody, like, please watch marthon Medicine,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: like it's a great show.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Because when it comes to reality television, let's keep it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm keeping a buck with y'all.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be a housewife, everybody, let's let's have
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: for a conversation.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: There's girls on shows currently who want to be a housewife.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, who don't even appreciate the show that they're
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: on because they're too busy trying to be a housewife.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a housewife.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It's a it's an amazing opportunity. It's an international show. Okay,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it's fantastic. But some of the reasons why a lot
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: of the girls want to do that is because of
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: this of this sort of halo it has of being
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you know, the.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Oscars of reality television, and.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: You know this sort of like paint brush of well,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: it's class here and all those things. And I always thought,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: and this is coming from somebody who did Seasons one
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: of Atlanta Jersey, I never understood the classy part in
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: terms of the actions, because I saw Teresa you like
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to flip a table.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I saw Teresa Judices run down the country club.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I saw Danielle stouth hair get pulled by Jack Ashley,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: So I never understood that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: My point in saying all of that is it's one
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: of those things where you guys complain so much about
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: wanted more shows than when you have them.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: You don't support it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: You don't support it when you're cast on the show.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: You don't support it when it's on. Y'all are so
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: quick to say cancel this show. We're bored, it has
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: run its course, versus saying what we say every Monday night,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, maybe this person should leave the show.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Bring in these type of people. We never say cancel
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the show. Were the three of us plus Blue. We
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: always give advice in terms of what we would like
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: to see, but we never say cancel.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But you guys want to do that, then y'all could
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: plain there's no black shows. But y'all WoT support any
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: black shows, and we y'all do.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Y'all call them ghetto because y'all too think the only
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: show that should be around our housewives. Every other show,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: y'all don't say cancel it. Y'all say this is how
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: we can help. But when it comes to other black
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: reality shows, y'all so quick to be like, get rid
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: of it, We're bored. Is run his course, it's ghetto,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: it's ratchet. It's not showing us in the best light.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: The eleven o'clock News does not show us in.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: The best light. But you guys don't petition but that
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to be canceled. You see what I'm saying.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: So what's happening is what Claudia and Doesn't are saying,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: which is there is this call to action to get
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: rid of it, okay, And that's why for me, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: am focusing more on doing other stuff because it's not
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: just affecting the reality stars.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's affecting the reality creators.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: It's affecting reality producers seeing all these talk shows get canceled.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Sherry Shephard, like I said, Access Hollywood, our friend Caroamo Brown,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: these are signs of where the industry is hit it,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell y'all right now, it's not
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: going to get better. It's going to get worse before
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: it gets better. Similar to the music industry. That's why
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: people who are in the music industry, they are doing
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: other stuff. They're not becoming influencers. They're not making songs
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that survive on TikTok. Nobody wants to write songs anymore.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I was watching Beyonce footage yesterday and I just marvel, like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: we will never have another Beyonce. It's never going to happen.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Number one, You girls don't want to work like she does.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Number two, there's no Matthew knows arow but.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: But my point is, the girls don't work anymore. The
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: girls don't want to don't want to put When I
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: say the girls, I don't mean just girls, thank you.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I mean the girl That's what I say.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: But it's not it's.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to work anymore. Nobody wants to put in
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the effort. All y'all want to do is complain. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: then when I hear songs on the radio, I'm like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: this is for TikTok, and that's one stream of income.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But I think globally we have to figure out how
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: to support each other and stop running.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Stop y'all gotta stop with this ship of.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Desiring one angled of something and not fully supporting other.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Avenues like the TV, you know, like a Zeus. You
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Zeus may not be your cup of tea, And trust me,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I get that right. I don't watch Zeus just like
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Lemmy don't watch my shit.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean he and I can't support each other.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Do you each other professionally?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: He said this publicly, and that's why I'm saying it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I introduced him to Joscelyn because all the shows that
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I pitched with Joscelyn's Cabaret, the networks turned it down.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And when I met Lemmy at the dog park, funny story,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: and we were talking and I saw this black man
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: doing his thing, and he said, who do you Who
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: would be.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Good for Zeus? I said Joscelyn. Josce Len flew to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: She and I met with him, and the rest is
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: history and she's doing wonderfully. You know, So again, support
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: what's out there, and trust when I say this, I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: not saying you have to love it or like it,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: but damn it, do you have to go on Twitter
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and leave.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Comments advocating for his failure.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: To be removed and canceled? And then when y'all get
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: me at that BT plus is gone, did.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Y'all subscribe to the motherfucker y'all to subscribe to it?
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: It's crazy, like they'll say, people say like, oh, Zeus
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: is ghettos, this, that, and third, but then you have
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: a whole bunch of non ghetto shows on BT plus
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: that wasn't getting the same support. But like, let me
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: tell you something with Zeus will do every month is
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: they're getting a million people or more to pay that
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: four ninety nine or whatever it is every single month.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: So they have dedicated fan base. Dedicated fan base they
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: do so money were your mouth this, I mean I
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: would love I mean no, some people saying, are you
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: telling us to watch ghetto TV? We're not saying that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Was saying like like if there's aying this should be
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: a yang. Okay, I have to stuff that's like the
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: untend stuff as but then also support some stuff over
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: here on BT plus or don't hate on it at
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: the very least.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you know it's it's it's, it's, it's,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: it's what's happening.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm moving on with that. I do want to
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: get into EJ.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Johnson's interview that I did because boil Boy look and
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: this it doesn't quitly know my spirit.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: When I do interviews, I literally do it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I leave and I put it up and I'm and
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I just whatever, you know I And I'm being very honest.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I did not expect the E. J.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Johnson interview to blow up as big as it did.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I literally, First of all, we taped that interview in December.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, we.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Taped it in December, and I hell it because obviously
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I do a lot of interviews, and then depending on
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the timing of stuff like like for example, Dakara, We're
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Top Model, I have to do that and release it
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: immediately because.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: It was a hot topic.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: So that's why a lot of my interviews that you
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: guys will watch is not always I do it and
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I'll release it the next week. It just depends on
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the how relevant it is. I want to talk to
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: YouTube briefly about the E. J. Johnson interview to get
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: your perspective on it. I do want to play this
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: clip first, I'm not gonna play the whole thing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Play some of it so that Claudia and Dustin and
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I can have a quick discussion about it, and then
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you guys what I'm doing this week in
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: regards to that particular interview. So here it is.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Let me share my screen. Can y'all see it? You
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and your sister liking the same guy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: I honestly that is ultimately like what got the pick
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: the show picked up. But also you know, in terms
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: of the gender and sexualities and stuff like that, it
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: was very important because that happens. You know, you can
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: I don't attract gay men, and I'm not and I'm
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: not attracted to gay men. Like it's just not a thing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Tell me more about that, you know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: Just I think like if you ask any of the
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: girls like they'll tell you, they'll tell you the same.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: And I think they're just labels, you know.
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: That's what Like, I don't care what you know, Like
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: I'm dating someone, I'm like, I don't care what you
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: identify as or what you call yourself as long as you're.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Happy being who you are.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: But no, but to be honest, it's like that's why
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: I don't really go to I don't go to gay clubs.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: I don't go to you know, gay things because it's
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: like the men that I attract are not there. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: also like they're like, you know, they kind of.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Like wave you off. You're just like oh that you know, hey, girl.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Like you know, it's not you're not in in here,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: in here like the rest.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Of us are. You know.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: It's just it's always but it's I never really understood
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: it until now because before when I would go and
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: I would I just was like, there's something about this room.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: It's like it's almost like.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: They don't want me here, Like I'm not really in
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: it here because I'm not presenting as a man. I'm
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: not presenting in a in in that way.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And to be clear, the gay community room, yeah, your
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: own community yeah yeah yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: But it's not like a shameful thing or just like
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: oh they're mean to me, But it's like these are
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: not my men in terms of attraction. Now, I'm just
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: going to have a key, key sure, but like these
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: are not the men that are that are interested in
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: me in that capacity. I do that when I go
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: to the straight rooms.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: So what I want to do first is get your
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: thoughts on that conversation, Dustin, Oh, thank.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: God, man, I'm like, God, I was not making eye contact.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I'm like, so, I think that so fucking I'm just
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: about to speak freely.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: So.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I think that Eja use some words to describe circumstances
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and situations that he's been in that have unfortunately stoked
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: a lot of flames and reignited a bunch of meaningless,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: baseless conversations that are deeply, deeply rooted in homophobia, transphobia, misogyny,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: all of the things. And I think that he kind
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: of fan those flames by getting on his ass on
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: your interview and saying that he dates straight men. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: think that the point that he was trying to make
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: was that men that are attracted to him are attracted
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: to things that are feminine, and so the likelihood of
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: him finding interest from someone there in a room of
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: people who are attracted to the male form or the
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: male presenting identity are less likely than being in a
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: room with people who are attracted to femininity. But for
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: him to say that it was straight men that he
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: was attracted to, I think was kind of confusing for
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of people, and it caused conversations that vollied
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: over into one thing, into another thing, and into another
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: and so I just think that that was new information
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: for people and confusing because of the words used. And
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: so we just have to be careful and be responsible
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: when we are discussing things that are sensitive and things
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that are related to issues that have been very divisive
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: within the black community that have created this imaginary rift
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: or conflict amongst women and female people versus the gay
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: community and the trans community that does not exist. Conversations
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: like that have aided in propelling those things forward, and
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: it's really harmful. So we just got to make sure
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: we speaking clearly and we're speaking to the audience. EJ
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: was speaking to an audience to us that was way
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: larger than gay people who would understand the dynamics of
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: those situations in spaces that he had been in, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: so the information was falling on ears of people who
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: had never heard anything like that before. And we're not
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: responsible for doing the work of figuring it out. It
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't their job to figure out what he meant. It
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: was EJ's job to say what he said, and that's
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: what he did. But there was another way to make
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: what I'm assuming EJ's point was in that setting without
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: adding confusion and stoking the flames of these pointless, divisive
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: conversations that are not going to get any of us
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: anywhere further, and that are dividing us at a time
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: and we really need to be unified.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: So those are my feelings about it, Claudia.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: If I would have said what EJ said, I would
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: be roasted all over social media ashore. And I don't
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: like I agree. I feel like it was a little divisive,
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Like I don't think there was a need to say
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: that he wears some clothes better than women and all
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. And I know that's like a
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: small part of the interview, but in a time where
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: the division is just getting the wedge is being driven,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: just made bigger and bigger and bigger, it's just like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: h I think EJ really comes from more of a
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: place of privilege, So maybe it comes off a little
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: bit like, wait what, but EJ's life will never be
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: like it's not like any of ours. Okay, I mean
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: the man, I'm sorry, I don't want to be disprestful.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: EJ grew up just differently, just out the gate. You
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: know what, I mean, everything's a label, everything's like this,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: and I think it comes off as an old, rich
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: white woman. And when he was saying some of these
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: things he was saying, it kind of felt like, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: when you have a maybe a black friend that maybe
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: black men didn't hit on them while they were in
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: high school or whatever, and they just only date white men,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: so they say, don't I don't mess with the blacks,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: you know, because they don't really like me. And it
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: maybe his reality, but it still can like be a
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: little bit like, you know, rub you the wrong way.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: I get what I was saying about. You know, someone
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: that that would be attracted to EJ would be more
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: in tune with the feminine than the masculine. I think
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: maybe he could have been left there and all the
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: other stuff was not necessary because I kind of that's
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: when it went left. I think I think that's was
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: rubbing people like the wrong way. You know. Okay, I
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: try to be as careful as I could on that SEGM.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But you look good. No listen, listen, So I'll say this.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: You know the thing with EJ that I want.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: To start by saying this, EJ does not do interviews. Yeah, J,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: albeit famous courtesy of the reality show he was on
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: rich Kiss and Beverly Hills. EJ in the City has
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: spent off. That happened more than a decade ago. He's
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: not out there doing interviews or even being seen. His
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: social media just got up a few months ago and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: you follow EJ. He was gone out of the limelight
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: for years. And when I reached out to him, it's
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: because I saw that he had his Instagram back up
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and started doing more content and fashion and he's amazing,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: amazing when it comes to understanding fashion and labels and
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Back to his whelhouse.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: So long story show, I reached out to him and
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: he could not have been more gracious and more sweet.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: And I listen, I don't walk around like I'm probably
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: king darling everybody. I don't walk around like that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: So when he said yes, I was pleasantly surprised because
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I know that he doesn't do interviews. And at the
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: end of the interview what he said to me, he
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: was like, I did not expect to even talk about
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: anything you asked me.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: He said, you made me feel so comfortable to be myself.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That we you You really went there asking me questions that
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I just don't talk about and I think for EJ,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: like dustiness intimating, EJ felt like he was talking to
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: one of his duties. Do you know what I'm saying,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like one of his girlfriends and not and not the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: world right? And the stuff that EJ said, I mean,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: that's that's EJ's life and that's EJ's perspective.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: What I gathered from it was e.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: J, I will never know what it's like to walk
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: in EJ shoes, right, being born with a platinum spoon
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: in your mouth and having this access of immediacy of luxury,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: you know, private schools and you know EJ is I
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: believe thirty three years old.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: So EJ was born at a time where you know parents.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And we're seeing this on Mariti Medicine with doctor Simone.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: And her kids, where it is this concept creation of
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: black parents who are first time millionaires saying I want
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: to give my child the best life, and sometimes giving
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: your child the best life means you're you're you're putting
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: them in schools and environments where they don't have a
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: lot of people who look like them, but they're not
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: exposed to that. So I definitely think he touched on
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: that and the one thing that he did say. And
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: by the way, EJ goes by EJ. However, EJ has
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: said that obviously if somebody says he he's not tripping
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: off a bibie.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: I was just going to ask you that because.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: People say, I know, I know, EJ said. It's all
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: about the intention of the word.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And if he asks you, if they ask you and
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: in the moment not to say, you still say it,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: then it's disrespectful.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: He's not is not trans right, So EJ is okay?
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Like if you say he is not offensive.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: EJ told and and the other thing and this and
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: this is not to Claudia, this is not to you, okay,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: because don't make it seem like it is. That's why
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I want people to watch the entire interview. I think
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of people watched the two minute clip and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: read with it. I ain't tripping at all. But I
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: implore people to watch the entire interview because I think
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: if you watch the entire interview, like a lot of
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: people did, your perspective may be something.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That is not based on the two minute clip.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: And I'll leave it at that because I like people
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: to have their own perspective.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: The last thing I'll say is.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: This, I'm gonna watch it, all of it. Sorry, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: was busy this weekend. I'm sorry.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people saw the clip and and
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: and did a lot of content about it, which I
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: appreciate anybody who takes my content to talk about it
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: because there's so much out there. The last thing that
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I'll say is, after you've watched the entire interview, one
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: thing that is true in the in the gay community.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: And I'll speak to the black gay community because I'm
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: part of it, me too.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no too wow. Well nothing like
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you know they think about. That's the kay no.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: One thing I'll say, and I have another announcement to
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: make after this is there is film.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Phobia in the community.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: There is film phobia in the Black gay community. I'm
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: not going to spend time on this on this month
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: in my live going to detail about it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm doing later.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: But what I will say is when it comes to
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: feminine gay men, I E ME I E an E J.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: There, Unfortunately is this thing where there appears to be
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: this large demographic of people in the community who don't
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: find feminine gay men attractive.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Right that is something that is true.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: And if you're a feminine gay person, you know exactly
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And that's why a lot of.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: The comments defended EJ, saying, now y'all know what he's
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: trying to say, like stop it, and again it's a
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: conversation like Dustin's.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Dustin said that that's more global and has way more reach.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: But there is film phobia is a real thing. Claudia,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: You're you're not privy to this.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: You know, me and Dustin's generation, there was this thing
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: called no facts and no films where when you used
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: to try to meet a guy online and there will
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I will never get this. I was in my early twenties.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I'll never get this. When you're trying to figure out
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: your your situation and you go there was a site,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: and Claudia, there were literally boxes that would be like.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You know, male or female, check here preference mhm.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: They would have no fast, no films, and and that
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: meant no fat personal person. And so I do think
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of EJ's experience comes from him being a
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: larger size growing up, in addition to being effeminate.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: And no, I'm sorry, I didn't want to cut you off,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: please please finish.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So there's there's definitely.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: That was definitely a thing when you first started to
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: come out back in the day. Not granted things have
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: gotten better, things, yeah, things have gotten better.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: The world evolves.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Want him to go be in the gay spaces because
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: if you were to go, he would understand that things
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: are different. These new the younger people than us, don't
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: give a fuck about none of that shit. They coming
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: out and whatever their body type is, body positivity is
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: a real thing now that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: We thank God for.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: And self expression is something that in the middle of
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: so much oppression, there are still spaces where you are
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: allowed to thrive with your expression, your freedom of expression.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: So I think he would have a different environment if
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: he were to socialize in those spaces moving forward.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and I think for EJ.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: And that's my hat to say.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I want to give EJ all the props in the
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: world because when I, an overly gay black man, reached
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: out to EJ and said, I know you don't do interviews,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and he said yes to me, And I don't want
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: that to get lost in it because he could have
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: just said, girl, you know whatever. And Dustin's right too,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: So The thing is this. The world has evolved, Everything
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: has evolved. However, I will say people's trauma that they
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: experience in the childhood still resurfaces. And that's why listen,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I'll talk about myself.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna move on. I don't give two ships. I'm
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a bush queen whatever. I don't do labels myself. But
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: but what, we're not gonna act like it doesn't exist.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: We're not gonna act like when I post a picture
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: on Twitter, y'all, some of y'all say, he's keep until
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: he starts talking.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So we're not gonna act
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: like it's.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: But I'm also a power bottom.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: No, but I haven't hit podcasts, so clearly someone likes
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: my boys. But we're not gonna act like it doesn't exist.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six, if I post a picture, the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: repost would be hearing me out.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Is this is safe space? He's fine until he starts talking.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, if he wasn't such a girl, you know
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: it's But but what I will say, because I understand engagement,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I understand when those things are said on Twitter is
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: to get engagement. I know that when I go out
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: and Dustin is a witness to it.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I don't have any.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Issues, not a problem, insight, where's the problem, the jackets problem,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: the problem Carlos.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: Banks, the jacket, the blaze.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: But but my thing is this, My thing is this.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: But but but that's why Dustin's right, Claudia and rain Drops,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you have to you have to put yourself in those
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: rooms still, because that's not the reality anymore. And and
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: by saying this too, it's just important to have these conversations,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: which is why me and Dustin are gonna hold a
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: panel with other gay black folk and we're gonna call
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: it dating while gay and black. Because to Justin's point,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I think there's a larger conversation about this, and that
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: is something that you.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Guys will see pretty soon.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: So let me say one thing before we get off
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: this subject. The most interesting thing about conversations and commentary
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: surrounding your conversation with EJ and the clips of it
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: that have gone viral, is the commentary that it generates, right,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: And I just want people to know that people like myself,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: people like Carlos, people like Claudia who has multiple gay
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: friends that are close to her, we can all see
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: straight through the intention of the comments that I left,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: and each one of these people who are using this
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: and weaponizing this piece of this conversation into an opportunity
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: for them to perpetuate and purport homophobia, transphobia, all that shit.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Anybody that's using this and turning his conversation about who
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: he's attracted to and who's attracted to him into now
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: some sort of issue of straight women versus gay people.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: We see you, We see exactly what you're doing. We
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: see you taking that journey and making that path to negativity,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and you can see straight through it every motherfucking time.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: And this is a safe space for me. It's always
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: going to be a safe space for me. This is
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: a safe space for Claudia. And this is your show, Carlos.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: So I just want to be clear that the homophobia shit,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: we don't have any space for that or no tolerance
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: This is not a US versus them thing. That was
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: a clip of EJ.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Johnson talking about who he dates and who's been attracted
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: to him and who he's attracted to, where he used
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: some language that can be off putting for people. But
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I just want to be clear on that because we
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: can have a healthy discussion a healthy conversation about anything.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: But what we're not fin to do is open the
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: door to rap at homophobia attacks on the gay community,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: turning this into a war between straight women and gay
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: pe people. It's not going to be that, so I
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: just wanted to be clear about that for our audience.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for thank you.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I agree and I agree with that, So listen, make
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: sure y'all check off the E. J. Johnson Carlos King
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: exclusive on my YouTube channel. Watch the whole interview. It's
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: only fifty seven minutes, and shout out to everybody who
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: did a video on it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Listen.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I am I get paid clearly every Monday night to
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: talk about things in media. I'm never mad whether y'all
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: loved it hated it. I appreciate anybody who takes time
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: out of their day to even talk about it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: And I want to give a shout out to don't
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: call me.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Why Gramona and sit.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Talking about this.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: But so someone that doesn't do interviews, I think that
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: was good for him to see it and even even
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: some of the feedback, whether the good, bad, and the ugly,
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: because it also lets people like I did this class
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: before where we had to like see how people view
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: us and how from how we speak right, And and
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: that's not to say he had a he was flawless
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: in his answers, and that doesn't make him a bad person,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: but maybe he can see how how even clips made
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: some people think that he was maybe distancing himself from
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: the community, which we need all the allies that we have,
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: especially someone as visible, powerful, rich as an EJ. You
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like that he's not without criticism.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: It's okay, right he You know what, maybe if I
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: do that again, because I don't have a lot of
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: experience in interviews, maybe I wouldn't seem like I'm kind
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: of distancing myself from gay men or men, because that's
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: hurtful too. And that's not saying he's homophobic, but it
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: can come off in a way that the person that
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: doesn't do the deep dive and is not as up
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: to uh, you know, on point with everything, doesn't watch everything,
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: or you know, a casual viewer won't get the wrong
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: impression that he's saying those feminine over there with that
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: with me, they can't sit with me. So yeah, I
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: think this would be good for him. He can go
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: back and watch it, and I don't think you coming from.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's trying to be a dickhead.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I trust me. I'm the queen of being misunderstood.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: I totally understand that how two hours gets, you know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: cut up and served up another way.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So all right, so make sure I watched that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Thank everybody who, like I said, watched it and made
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: comments and videos.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: All right, So breaking news, Claudia and Dustin and rain drops,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: ask and you shall receive.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: So you know, one thing that I love about Claudia
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: and Dustin and everybody that is in my life.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Is the fact that you know, when.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: You guys say things sometimes I listen, not all the time,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: but if it makes sense, I got your back. Therefore,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I am launching a new series called Reality After Dark,
• 54:03
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• 54:07
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• 54:14
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• 54:20
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• 54:22
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• 54:30
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  Speaker 2: Mandy b y'all may know.
• 54:37
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• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to drop it this week.
• 54:47
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  Speaker 3: get to like, you know, go there, go.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: There, can I say the C word?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: There?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: There, I'm there.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: So off drive, Claudia gets to be Claudia Job. All right,
• 55:08
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  Speaker 2: be a tree and Baby.
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  Speaker 3: If y'all know Mandy b and if y'all ever listen
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  Speaker 3: to Horrible Decisions, which is now called Decisions Decision, y'all
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: know that Mandy gives it up.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Y'all know that Mandy gives it up.
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  Speaker 6: And they said, well y'all be naked me my, I
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: mean it depends on. Listen. If y'all run the numbers up,
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: ain't no telling what. So with that being said, you
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: decide the level of the show. You see, Carlos been dying,
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: get that shut off?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, so listen, this will be this would
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: be so I'm so happy and listen. I got more announcements.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I got more announcements, so that one I wanted y'all
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: To night and that's gonna be something great.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And again I'm still doing the panel dating while gay
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: and black, and we're gonna have conversations about that because
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: again I think these topics are very important.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: So Dustin and Claudia, I got ready to reality after dark.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: You know I love an unhinged, uncensored, uncut I mean
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: it so depends, you know, depends. Well, you'll hear about
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: that on the Patreon. I'm a lady here, I'm a
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: us patreo, Kenny. I'm just I make an announcement too
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  Speaker 6: for Wednesday. So this Wednesday on e I'm part of
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: a series as a two part series two hours uh
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  Speaker 6: this Wednesday, the showing episode both episodes of Dirty Rotten Scandals.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: It is the last of the three.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: They did Doctor Phil America's Next Top Model, and now
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: we are exposing the prisis wrong. I mean, the price
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  Speaker 6: is right, okay, Kathleen Bradley Holly. I mean we really
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: are able to be free in this. And I saw
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  Speaker 6: some clips they sent me some teasers, and I couldn't
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: post the other ones that I got, yo, Like I
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: couldn't believe some of the stuff that made the cut.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, I can't believe they did that, Like it
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  Speaker 6: was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait watch Yeah, so that so Claudia tell
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  Speaker 3: them when that comes on this Wednesday on E so
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  Speaker 3: it'd be back to back.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: So first hour, second hour. I'm more featured in the
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: second hour, but the first hour, like they are giving
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: it up now. Holly had a long lawsuit with the
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: Price Right Wig for unlawful termination, for retaliation and the
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: stuff they talk about with bar Parker. Let me tell
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: you some people was getting the d funcked in the
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: dressing room and making scenes in front of the audio.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: All kinds of stuff was going on the Prices right,
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 3: All right now listen, okay, and rain Jobs next Monday,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: we are going to recap that particular episode as well.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: That's the beauty of having Claudia Jordan around. So make
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: sure y'all watch Dirty Rice Scandals.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: And you're at the Truth Awards this weekend, aren't you.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm being honored at the Truth Awards.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you all so much for that being
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: honored at the Truth Awards.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Shout out better Brothers LA for that honor.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: It's me Don Lemon Duran Bernard and Mecca.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: I love Mecca the director. Yes, yes, he's talented.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hosting.
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  Speaker 3: You know, listen, I'm bringing my supporters of friends and everything.
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: Are you calling him a supporter now?
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Reality After Dark will.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: That's cute. I love my supporters too. That's not you
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: like your support?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: You have back support this weekend, Claudia, the support I.
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  Speaker 5: Can give right now.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Same.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: Once you get a little support, you are here after that,
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: out here to support I can get definitely hard.
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  Speaker 5: I love y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I'll see y'all this week