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How to protect your pets from New World screwworm · Austin Signal

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With confirmation of cases of the
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New World screwworm in Texas,
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plenty of focus is on the potential
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impact to the state's cattle
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industry.
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But they're not the only animals
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vulnerable to the parasite.
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We're going to have some prevention
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tips.
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And Texas Republicans dominated the
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primaries by going all in on the
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MAGA movement.
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Now they have to sell that plan to
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Texans come November.
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We're gonna have more about these
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stories coming up on today's show.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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A comedy game show at Austin's
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Fallout Theater has segments that
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consistently go sideways,
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and that's just how they want it.
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Did I win?
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Does it matter?
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Plus, another excerpt from the
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Accent Unmuted storytelling series.
0:53
More about all of these stories
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coming up next.
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It's right here on Austin
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Signal.
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Howdy out there.
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This is Austin Signal.
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Thank you for tuning in to
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community-powered public radio KUT
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News.
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It is Thursday, June 11th.
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I'm your host, Jerry Quijanoa.
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Texans have made their picks for
1:22
which Democrats and Republicans will
1:23
be on the ballot for the general
1:25
election come November, which
1:27
will decide everything from railroad
1:29
commissioner to U.S.
1:31
Senator to governor.
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But what should we make of the
1:33
results of the primary And
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what do they tell us moving into
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November?
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The Texas newsroom's Blaise Ganey
1:40
has this story.
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The most conservative Republicans
1:44
continue to win in Texas, from
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Senate nominee Ken Paxton to the
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Republican nominee for Railroad
1:49
Commissioner Beau French to the
1:51
GOP candidate for Attorney General
1:53
Maga Mays Middleton, as he
1:55
likes to be known.
1:56
John Taylor, a political scientist
1:58
at the University of Texas at San
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Antonio, describes it as The
2:01
consolidation of MAGA power In
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other words, outmagging the
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Republican next to you on the
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ballot. That led to the end of
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political careers for longtime
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incumbents like Senator John Cornyn,
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who even claimed to vote with
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President Donald Trump 99%
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of the time.
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Being essentially the
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last of the old guard being swept
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away.
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Anybody who is not 100% MAGA,
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100% committed to
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Trump, is viewed as disloyal
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and therefore must.
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Must be purged.
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Michael Adams is a political
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scientist at Texas State University.
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He says voters in Texas officially
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moved into a new political era after
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the primary.
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It sent a clear signal,
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I think, to the Republican Party
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that the Bush or the
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Perry wing of the
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Republican Party, what we know as
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the institutional Republican Party
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or the traditional wing, I think
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that has been put to rest.
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Outmagging your opponent might have
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worked in the primary since those
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elections tend to draw out the most
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extreme voters in either party.
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But Nancy Sims, a political
3:03
scientist at the University of
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Houston, says Republicans might have
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to reconsider how they approach
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November.
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That's going to be their challenge.
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They moved so far to the right to
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win their nominations that
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they're going to have to live with
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the commercials they made side
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by side with Trump.
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And, and all the MAGA promises
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they made for the general cycle
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are not going to popular with
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independent voters in my opinion.
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There are several reasons for that.
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Trump's approval rating is low, gas
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prices are soaring, and the country
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is at war.
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But for the most part, the MAGA
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candidates in Texas have ignored
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those topics, instead focusing
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on hot-button social issues like
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gender identity and immigration
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enforcement.
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And while that strategy worked
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during the Republican primary where
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only 1.4 million voters
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participated, political scientist
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Geronimo Cortina with the University
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of Houston isn't sure it'll be
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so successful with the general
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electorate.
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Though on the one hand,
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I don't know,
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97% of
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folks that did not participate in
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the run of election,
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whether they are
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Democrats or Republicans,
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support that type of
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rhetoric or not.
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Making things even more interesting
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are polls showing the Democratic
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nominee for US Senate James
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Tallarico beating Paxton
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by a few percentage points.
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Here's Sims again.
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Today, if you ask me,
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I would say it
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looks like Texas may
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be competitive for
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the first time in 30
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years, but that
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could shift if Trump's
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popularity begins to rise again.
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Democrats have their work cut out
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for them. They haven't won a
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statewide race in more than three
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decades.
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Here's Taylor Texas is not
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really a red state, it's a low
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turnout state, in which you've
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got Democrats who, if they would
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ever get off their butts and
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actually mobilize, could actually
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win elections.
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I'm Blaze Gainey in Austin!
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As the New World screwworm spreads
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into Texas, much of the focus has
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been on its potential impact on
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the cattle industry, but livestock
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aren't the only animals vulnerable
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to the parasitic fly.
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Last week, and a case was confirmed
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in a dog in Andrews County, that's
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in West Texas, though the dog was
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apparently from a household in a
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neighboring county in New Mexico.
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Here to tell us more about the risk
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to pets and how to protect them is
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Dr. Rachel Gordon, veterinarian
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with Austin Pets Alive.
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Dr. Gordon, welcome to the show.
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Hi, thanks for having me!
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So first, it's probably important
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to understand how the New World
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screwworm is spread.
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How do animals contract this
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parasite?
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So the main way that it is spread is
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through the flies itself.
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So if you have an animal that's
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living outdoors or is outdoor at any
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time, the fly only has to
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find a little bit of either an
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open wound or any of
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our body's openings, whether that be
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through the nose, the mouth, the
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ears, it just needs to find some
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way to contact some tissue and
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have time to lay its eggs.
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Okay, so why are we seeing this
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more amongst livestock than
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household pets right now?
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So one of the main reasons is
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because they do, you know,
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live outside and as
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farmers do their absolute best to be
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able to keep track of everything.
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A lot of times these can go
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unnoticed for a little while because
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there's very slight symptoms that
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you're seeing in the animals.
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So you might have some animals that
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in terms of a ranching perspective,
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they might go down on their feed,
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they might down on there produce,
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whether that being milk or gain
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weight. They might have sores
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that are popping up, they might show
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up lame. So there's a lot of little
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signs that they might see, but
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because flies are just part of
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the environment out there, they're
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definitely at a higher risk for
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getting that.
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What are some things that pet owners
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should be on the lookout for that
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could indicate an infestation and
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what should they do if they suspect
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maybe their animal, their pet does
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have the new world screw arm?
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So the first thing I would recommend
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doing is, if you have an
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animal that has a recent injury or
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has a recently surgery, is just
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to make sure that you're monitoring
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that area for any signs of
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warmth or inflammation to
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the area. Mainly you're gonna see
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red skin, you might see swelling.
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In some cases, you will start to
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see the wound forming because this
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is gonna be a very rapidly
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developing wound.
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These worms are really, really good
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at finding not just the dead tissue
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that normal flies would find.
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But also going after the live
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tissue. And so it's going to really
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affect the animal very quickly
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and can turn very dangerous, very
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fast.
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So being able to keep an eye on
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everything so you can see from day
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to day and you're able to see that
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change immediately.
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Now, if you do see those changes,
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we would recommend going to follow
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up with your veterinarian as soon as
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possible because there's a lot of
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other things going on right now.
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You have the changing seasons.
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So the pets can also have some
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allergies. You can have some
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hotspots showing up.
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So it's just really important to be
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vigilant looking out for those
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symptoms. You might also see some
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signs of pain.
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So maybe we're limping around.
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Maybe we're not eating as much.
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We're not moving around as much, so
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if you do see any of those symptoms,
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I would make sure you follow up with
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your vet as soon as possible so that
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they can get the help that they need
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and get treatment started as soon
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possible if it were to be the case.
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What are some things that pet owners
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can do right now to prevent possible
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infestation?
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So one of the things you can do is
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to make sure that your pets are
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up-to-date on their flea and tick
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medications.
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The Isoxazoline class of
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medications, that's gonna be your
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NexGuard, Credelio,
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Brevecto.
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Those are actually used to
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treat, to kill the maggots, but it's
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also helpful to prevent them
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from happening in the first place.
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So making sure that they're up-
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to-date on that.
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And then just the close visual
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monitoring.
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If you are traveling to an area that
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the screwworm is endemic to, or
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they live in such as.
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Crossing the border into Mexico or
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going further down into Central
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America, then you
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might consider maybe not bringing
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your pet at this time, just to be
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extra safe, to make sure that
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they're at a lower likelihood of
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even coming into contact with this
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potential.
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Are have you heard any questions
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from pet owners here in Austin about
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the screw arm anything that we
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haven't asked you about yet?
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I know one thing that I have been
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asked is, so how
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quickly would I see the symptoms?
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And it is going to vary depending
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on each case, but typically,
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you know, it takes about, you now,
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15 minutes or so for the fly to lay
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its eggs, and then within a day,
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you'll have those eggs hatched, and
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over the next week, you'll start
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really seeing those symptoms.
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So ideally, you would see
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it within that first week, but it
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kind of depends on.
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Where the fly initially laid
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the eggs, what all tissue is being
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affected and such like that.
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Okay, and what is
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the prognosis for infestation,
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like what, have we seen many
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cases of infestations among pets?
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So thankfully, not for a very long
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time, this is something that,
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in vet school, we're learning this
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has already been eradicated, so it's
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very interesting to be seeing it
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coming about, but the
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main thing is going to be the
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treatment timeline.
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So the sooner you're able to get the
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treatment, the better the prognosis
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is going be, because these maggots
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will cause such severe trauma
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to the entire body.
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We're talking about the
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skin, muscle, even bone
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going into organs.
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So If it does get
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to that severity, it really depends
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on where that wound is.
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So a wound on the foot's gonna have
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a better prognosis than say a wound
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the head or the neck area.
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All right, we have been speaking
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with Dr. Rachel Gordon, a
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veterinarian with Austin Pets Alive.
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Dr. Gordon, thank you for your time.
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Thank you.
10:54
And World Cup 2026
10:56
kicks off this afternoon in Mexico
10:57
City as the Mexican national team
10:59
takes on South Africa.
11:01
We had a local preview of the action
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yesterday with Juan Diego Garcia of
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the Vamos Verde podcast.
11:07
You can listen to that at kut.org
11:10
slash signal and Juan
11:12
and his co-host Jimmy Moss will be
11:13
updating the action throughout the
11:15
day throughout the tournament right
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here on KUT
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We'll be back after a break.
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You're listening to Austin Signal.
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I'm Nammy Sirur, creator of the
11:32
live storytelling event Accent
11:34
Unmuted.
11:35
Storyteller Victoria Granduri prides
11:37
herself on jumping head first into
11:39
challenges, until one
11:41
that nearly took the spirit out of
11:43
her.
11:44
What came to her rescue was one
11:46
phrase she kept repeating.
11:48
It's 2019, and
11:50
I'm in the middle of my MBA.
11:53
Summer break is just around the
11:55
corner, and while everyone is
11:57
scrambling to get an internship,
11:59
I decide I wanna do something
12:01
different, something
12:03
more nourishing.
12:04
One day, I'm on the phone
12:06
with my little sister, Julia,
12:09
and she asks me,
12:11
do you wanna climb Kilimanjaro
12:12
together this summer?
12:14
I pause.
12:16
You see, I hate hiking.
12:19
I hate camping and
12:21
I really hate not showering
12:23
after exercising.
12:25
Naturally, I answer, let's
12:27
do this.
12:30
A couple months later, we're on the
12:31
plane to Tanzania.
12:33
I bought my hiking boots a week
12:35
before the trip, wore
12:37
them probably two hours.
12:40
I skimmed through the
12:42
PDF with the detailed information
12:44
about our route and remembered
12:46
nothing.
12:48
Thankfully, our
12:50
guides, Oscar and Devoda,
12:53
would brief us every morning.
12:55
How high, how far,
12:57
what to wear. The rest?
12:59
Was simple.
13:01
Walk slowly, breathe
13:03
deeply, and enjoy the
13:05
sights and the company.
13:10
Every time Joy and I
13:12
looked at this immense peak
13:14
miles away that
13:16
never seemed to get any closer,
13:19
we'd point at it and say to
13:21
each other, piece of cake.
13:25
It became our thing when
13:28
the trail got long,
13:30
steep, windy, piece
13:32
of cake.
13:34
And it worked, honestly.
13:36
Our mental state carried us further
13:37
than any physical preparation
13:39
could have.
13:42
Summiting Mount Kilimanjaro happens
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in the middle of the night.
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You wake up at 12 and start walking
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at one in the morning.
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It's pitch dark.
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And the only thing you can
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see is a trail of
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light from headlamps, slowly
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zigzagging up the mountain.
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At that point, my head
14:02
is pounding, my
14:04
lungs feel compressed,
14:06
and every decision feels
14:08
extremely slow.
14:11
Imagine going on a hike
14:14
during your worst hangover or
14:16
food poisoning.
14:20
Halfway up, people start
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throwing up.
14:23
Altitude sickness is hitting hard.
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And Julia, unfortunately,
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is a victim of the altitude mountain
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sickness.
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Her oxygen levels get so
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dangerously low, we need to
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make a call.
14:38
She's gonna go back down and
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I'll keep climbing with Oscar and
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Devota.
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Watching her turn back broke
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my heart.
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We'd done everything up till now
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together, and I couldn't
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imagine finishing this without her.
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Now, alone,
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every step feels heavier.
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I'm cold, dehydrated,
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and exhausted.
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So, I develop a
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strategy to trick my mind to keep
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going.
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With every step that I take,
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I name someone I love.
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Mom, dad,
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Matias, Joya,
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friends, family.
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It goes on and on.
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On a loop.
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Three or four hours later, we
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finally reach a stopping point.
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Relief floods into my body, and
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I burst into tears,
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delirious with joy.
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Oscar looks at me,
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utterly confused.
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Why are you crying?
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Because we did it.
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We made it. We're at the top.
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He looks over at Devoda,
15:53
back at me.
15:55
Ah, no. This is tea break.
15:57
40 minutes more!
16:02
This is what I get for not
16:04
memorizing the itinerary.
16:07
So I drink my tea,
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eat my snack,
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and those last 40 minutes
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really were a piece of cake.
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When I finally reached the summit,
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it felt anti-climactic.
16:25
I had already had my moment.
16:31
Victory wasn't the photo at
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the top, it was
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every little step that got
16:37
me there.
16:39
It was learning to slow down,
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to be in the moment,
16:44
to laugh at the struggle,
16:47
and to choose to keep going,
16:50
one piece of cake
16:51
at a time.
16:53
Thank you.
16:56
That was Victoria Granduri telling
16:58
her story to a live audience at
17:00
a recent Accent Unmuted in Studio
17:02
1A here at KUT.
17:04
I'm Nami Sirur and this is Austin
17:06
Signal.
17:14
If you want to see some comedy
17:15
here in Austin, you have
17:17
two main options.
17:19
Heading down to 6th Street, where
17:21
you'll find a lot of stand-up shows
17:23
set up punchline one performer
17:25
at a time.
17:26
Then there are improv theaters.
17:29
Here comedy is more collaborative,
17:31
more theatrical, more experimental.
17:34
Texas Standard's Sean Saldana takes
17:36
us to one show where the truth
17:38
is stranger than fiction.
17:40
Comedian Quaid Petchi is backstage
17:42
at Fallout Theater, getting ready
17:44
for a big show.
17:45
All right, so you're pointing a
17:46
plastic gun at my face right now.
17:49
It doesn't have an orange tip on it.
17:50
That's the key right there.
17:52
You gotta remove the plastic orange
17:54
part that makes it think it might
17:55
be.
17:56
Fake.
17:57
Outside of this show, Petri is a
17:59
stand-up comic.
18:00
Tonight, he's a police officer
18:02
in the dimly lit theater.
18:04
Paths for a cop.
18:05
Right, I think I have the
18:07
somewhat look that like maybe maybe
18:10
it was like a rent-a-cop.
18:12
Petchy is on the cast of Did I Win,
18:14
a monthly show that creator and host
18:16
Trenton Bradley describes as...
18:18
A game show you would never want to
18:19
get pulled on to.
18:20
And did I win audience members get
18:22
called on stage to play games that
18:24
make no sense?
18:25
The game can be anything from
18:27
maybe a deal or no deal kind of
18:29
parody spin-off or something
18:31
as wacky as, you know, give somebody
18:33
a haircut.
18:34
When they arrive, people are told to
18:35
put their names in a bucket.
18:37
This volunteers them to become
18:39
contestants.
18:40
Not all of our bits go well.
18:41
Like, there was once where they had
18:42
somebody come on stage and reach
18:43
into a box and identify an item
18:45
without looking at it.
18:47
The first round, it was a wig.
18:49
The second was a fake spider.
18:51
Then finally,
18:52
The third run was a mousetrap.
18:54
And when it snapped shut on the
18:55
person's hand, everybody was
18:57
stunned, but it was totally fine
18:59
because this contestant was not
19:01
a paying audience member.
19:02
He was a plant.
19:04
He knew that a mousetrap was gonna
19:05
close on his hand But he played it
19:07
off so well that people
19:09
came up to us and were like that
19:11
is not funny
19:12
Every month, Bradley and his
19:14
co-hosts recruit local stand-up
19:15
comics to be random people in
19:17
the crowd.
19:18
Their segments go sideways, and none
19:20
of this is ever explained to the
19:22
audience.
19:23
They know it's a game show, but they
19:24
don't really know what
19:26
that game show entails.
19:27
Did I win Blur's reality?
19:29
In a way that makes it hard for me
19:30
to interview people in the lobby.
19:32
We've got a character out here in
19:35
the in the foyer that
19:37
is claiming to be a journalist
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You're saying I look like a
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character.
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I think you're a character in the
19:42
show, that's right.
19:44
Bo Banaduchi is a first-time
19:45
attendee, and before the show even
19:47
starts, he's learned to stop
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trusting his own eyes.
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You don't know what's going to
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happen, you can't expect anything.
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I am unable to convince Banaduchi
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that I am a real journalist,
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so I start talking with comedian
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Austin Silver.
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Tonight, he'll play a savant who can
20:01
identify celebrities by their feet.
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But I only know the women's feet.
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You don't look like, you look like a
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normal guy.
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I'm glad that you think that I don't
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look like a creep.
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I appreciate that.
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But real people might think that
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of you as they're walking out of
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this building.
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You know, I've been humiliated
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so much just as a regular comic
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that it's
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very hard to insult me.
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Moments later, the audience files
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into the theater and the show
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starts.
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Bradley and his co-hosts start
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tossing jello shots into the
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audience.
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All right, question for this
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audience.
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I've been sober for six years,
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should I relapse tonight?
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The first game of the night is Guess
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Who?
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Epstein Files Edition,
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and the name they pull out of the
20:44
bucket is Chris.
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Has that started?
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Oh sh**, is it the man?
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Yes!
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Is it an actor?
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Oh
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Okay, thank you.
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Yes!
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Donald Trump.
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Ciao!
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Couldn't go that easy right from the
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start. You gotta try, you gotta try.
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Chris is a real audience member,
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and with the crowd's help, he gets
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all of the answers right, which
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means that he wins his very own set
21:08
of the real board game, Guess Who?
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All the way, guys.
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Give it up for Chris. I think he
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won. Did he win?
21:14
For the next segment, Bradley calls
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up a woman named Demi Chang.
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You're going to fight the-
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Fresh can!
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Bradley pulls out a mid-sized
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plastic can and places it on the
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floor. Fight!
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Fight!
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Without hesitating, Chang raises her
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leg and kicks it off stage.
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Oh
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Then comes round two.
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One, two, three,
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go! Oh, not this trash can.
21:42
A man wearing a trash can with arm
21:44
and leg holes cut out storms into
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the theater and stomps onto stage.
21:50
He corners Cheng, but
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Trenton Bradley does not care.
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He shoves her into the middle of the
21:56
stage. Fight the trash, you're
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losing the game!
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You're losing game!
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Finally, Cheng forfeits and heads
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back to her seat.
22:03
She is a plant, but the
22:05
audience does not seem to notice.
22:09
Boo Demi guys, boo Demi,
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the trash can wins, the Trash
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can wins!
22:13
The next person called on stage is
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another real audience member named
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Alyssa.
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So these are pictures of,
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we're gonna show you pictures of
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celebrity's feet.
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Okay. You gotta guess whose feet
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they are.
22:24
I don't know any celebrities so this
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is going to be really hard.
22:27
Alyssa isn't lying.
22:29
She cannot identify any celebrity
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feet and neither can anybody else in
22:33
the crowd.
22:34
They all fail the name LeBron James,
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Leonardo DiCaprio, and Yoda.
22:39
Of course, the only exception is
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comedian Austin Silver, who
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can immediately identify the feet
22:44
of every woman they show.
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Margot Robbie.
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Margot Robby.
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Margot.
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Margot! Yes!
22:51
Yes!
22:52
Silver really leans into this
22:54
character.
22:55
He celebrates and cheers, and people
22:57
around him are equal parts impressed
22:58
and horrified.
23:00
Eventually though, Silver rallies
23:02
the crowd and gets them on his side.
23:08
After the show, I check in with Bo
23:09
Baneducci, the guy who
23:11
refused to believe that I was a
23:13
journalist.
23:14
I asked him if any of the segments
23:16
seemed planned.
23:18
No, I don't think there's anything
23:19
that totally stood out to me as
23:20
fake.
23:21
I gave him an exact breakdown of
23:23
what was real and what was staged.
23:25
Oh my god,
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of course!
23:28
I did not even suspect that!
23:30
And then he turns to his friend.
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I know you're not an actor.
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I invited you to this.
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Yeah.
23:36
Did I Win is part comedy, part
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immersive theater.
23:39
The humor comes from confusion,
23:41
awkward moments, and segments that
23:43
unravel.
23:44
It's also hosted by a maniac.
23:47
If you're in on the joke, it looks
23:48
like performance art.
23:50
If you not, it's just
23:51
a train wreck.
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For KUT's Art Beat, I'm Sean
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Saldana in Austin.
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And that is it for today's
23:59
show. Thank you for tuning in.
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24:02
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24:04
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24:08
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24:10
director.
24:11
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24:13
And Kristen Cabrera is our managing
24:15
producer.
24:16
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24:17
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tomorrow. We will talk to you then.