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Interview Only w/ Angie Nixon - How Democrats Can Compete In Florida Again · The Chuck ToddCast

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  Speaker 1: joining me now is at the time was an upset
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  Speaker 1: winner in the Democratic primary in Florida. It is the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, Angie Nixon. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks, maybe a couple months in preparation. We've
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  Speaker 1: been trying to make this happen. I'm glad to have
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  Speaker 1: you here. I know you're literally on the road. So
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  Speaker 1: thank you for taking a few minutes. Look, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think they know something about your candidacy.
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  Speaker 1: They think they may know something about you. But let's
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  Speaker 1: start from the beginning. Tell me how you got into politics.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, Chuck, you're going way back. You're going
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  Speaker 3: way back. So I got into politics. I actually went
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  Speaker 3: to the University of Florida and I was going to
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  Speaker 3: become this gynecologist, this obstetrician. And then I took chemistry
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, hell no, I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Chem 101.
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  Speaker 4: I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 3: And so I wind up then saying I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: do telecommunications news. And so we had to take a course,
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  Speaker 3: a political science course, state and local government and another one.
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  Speaker 3: And then I fell in love with it and I
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  Speaker 3: changed my major to political science. And on my final semester,
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  Speaker 3: I was actually nine months pregnant and I went to
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  Speaker 3: I went to Mia Jones, who was a city councilwoman
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  Speaker 3: at the time.
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  Speaker 4: And I asked to intern with her.
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  Speaker 3: And so I did. I interned with her my final
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  Speaker 3: semester in the summer.
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  Speaker 2: Where was this?
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  Speaker 4: In Jacksonville? In Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Duval County.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I just like I fell in love with
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  Speaker 3: public service. And when she resigned to run for state rep,
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  Speaker 3: which is actually the seat that I'm currently in right now,
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  Speaker 3: she resigned to run for state rep. I actually ran
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  Speaker 3: for her seat. I ran for city council. fresh out
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  Speaker 3: of college.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was 24. My daughter was not just
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  Speaker 4: one at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I ran to replace her. I didn't win, but that
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  Speaker 3: really opened up doors. I wound up becoming a community
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  Speaker 3: organizer from there. I helped elect the first Black mayor,
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  Speaker 3: the first Democratic mayor in 20 years in Jacksonville. Since then,
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  Speaker 3: I've just been very heavily involved and also been a
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  Speaker 3: union organizer.
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  Speaker 4: I also.
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  Speaker 3: I wind up running for office while I was a
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  Speaker 3: union organizer because the theory, right, our theory of change
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  Speaker 3: is that regular, hardworking, everyday people should get to shape
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  Speaker 3: what their communities look like and what their economies look like.
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  Speaker 3: And so we need to make sure that we are
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  Speaker 3: empowering them and educating them and getting those folks to
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  Speaker 3: become leaders and leaders who actually start running for office.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So it's interesting to me, you were basically in Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: as it moved from being a red-leaning city to what
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  Speaker 1: it is today, purple-leaning, maybe even a little blue-leaning. What
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  Speaker 1: did you learn from that? What's your explanation for how
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville's become this? I don't know if it's polarized. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be curious of how you describe it, but it's certainly
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  Speaker 1: very competitive. Why is it so evenly divided?
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  Speaker 3: So I would say that it is so evenly divided.
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  Speaker 3: And what I've learned from just working in Jacksonville is that.
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  Speaker 4: You can win anywhere. You just have to go talk
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  Speaker 4: to people. And you cannot just talk to people who.
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  Speaker 3: agree with you ideologically. And you should never want to
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  Speaker 3: be a lawmaker that only listens to.
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  Speaker 4: People who you agree with ideologically.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how we'll ever push towards progress. And so
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  Speaker 3: that is actually how we were able to win the
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  Speaker 3: mayor's race back in 2011. It's how we were able
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  Speaker 3: to win the mayor's race back in recently with Donna Teagan.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's how I was able to honestly win.
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  Speaker 4: This primary, even though it was a Democratic primary.
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  Speaker 3: We were able to get a lot of Republicans and NPAs, independents,
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  Speaker 3: to change their party affiliation to vote me in the primary.
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  Speaker 3: And that's because I go and meet people where they
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  Speaker 3: are and I have conversations with them. And I also
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  Speaker 3: include them in the process of like talking about the issues,
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  Speaker 3: but also helping us come up with solutions. This should
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  Speaker 3: be government for the people by the people. But right now,
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  Speaker 3: the people that are in power is government for the
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  Speaker 3: rich by the greedy billionaires and corrupt corporations. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what's frustrating people right now. The people who are making
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  Speaker 3: the decisions are.
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  Speaker 4: the ones who write the biggest checks.
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  Speaker 3: And instead, the people that are making decisions, it should
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  Speaker 3: be just the regular, everyday, hardworking people. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: I'm running, because I want to make sure that is,
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  Speaker 3: in fact, the case moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: So as you know, because you.
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  Speaker 1: Deal with this, there are some in Washington, even in
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  Speaker 1: your own party, who say, yeah, she registered with DSA.
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  Speaker 2: This is Florida.
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  Speaker 1: I'll admit I'm skeptical that the S word is going
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  Speaker 1: to play in South Florida where you need to do well.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me how you push back on that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you tell people that are saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I wish you hadn't joined the DSA or tell me
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  Speaker 1: why you're in the socialist adjacent camp, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for that, Chuck. You know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: about just three letters, right?
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  Speaker 4: It's bigger than that. Right now, we are witnessing a
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  Speaker 4: return to the worst chapters of our history.
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  Speaker 3: And so what we need is all hands on deck.
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  Speaker 3: There's absolutely nothing wrong or radical about me wanting to
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  Speaker 3: ensure people have access to quality healthcare, access to quality
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  Speaker 3: affordable housing, access to fully funded public schools.
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  Speaker 4: And so.
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  Speaker 3: What's interesting is the only people that question that or
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  Speaker 3: talk about that are like, The political pundits, right?
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  Speaker 4: The folks that are super plugged into the parties.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fair critique.
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  Speaker 3: When you go out and you have conversations like we're
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  Speaker 3: having and knocking on doors. I remember when it first
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  Speaker 3: started coming out, like immediately after the primary, I went
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  Speaker 3: to Little Havana and I knocked on some doors and
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  Speaker 3: I was let.
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  Speaker 4: In by a Cuban man who was retired, but who left.
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  Speaker 3: um cuba he fled cuba and he was talking to
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  Speaker 3: me and he was like i voted for you i'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna vote for you again he's like i i agree
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  Speaker 3: with you standing up for medicare.
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  Speaker 4: For all right and so it's like.
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  Speaker 3: The only people the people that are upset about the
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  Speaker 3: policies that i'm supportive of And the reason I joined
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  Speaker 3: DSA are the people that are okay with people dying
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  Speaker 3: if they don't have healthcare, right? And so like the
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  Speaker 3: folks that are in power, like they're frustrated about that
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  Speaker 3: because they're worried that.
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  Speaker 4: They won't get kickbacks. They won't get all this windfall
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  Speaker 4: of cash, right?
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  Speaker 3: And so I have always spoke out against authoritarianism, the
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  Speaker 3: rise of a dictatorship, which is what I have seen
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  Speaker 3: being a state lawmaker here in the state of Florida, right?
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  Speaker 4: And I don't agree with everything in the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 3: I also don't agree with everything that DSA agrees with,
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  Speaker 3: but the core tenets, the pillars that they.
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  Speaker 5: Support, universal healthcare, affordable housing, right? Ending bigotry of all forms, right?
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  Speaker 5: Fully funded public schools, right? Those are fully funded social
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  Speaker 5: security system.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the things that The Democratic Party has professed
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  Speaker 3: that they were supportive of and would fight for. But
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  Speaker 3: it's a lot of what we don't see the leadership
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  Speaker 3: fighting for this.
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  Speaker 4: Day and age. And so in a time in a time, Chuck,
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  Speaker 4: where you have like Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Weaponizing agencies and Ashley Moody rubber stamping them, they're literally
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  Speaker 3: creating paramilitary forces. We need everybody to join hands, Working
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  Speaker 3: Family Party, all these different groups and organizations across the
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  Speaker 3: state and country to come together and to vote the
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  Speaker 3: right way and hold Donald Trump accountable.
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  Speaker 1: What's your diagnosis as to why Democrats went from highly
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  Speaker 1: competitive in Florida not that long ago, we're talking the 2018,
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  Speaker 1: probably as close of a couple of statewide elections we've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen, to what it turned into in 2022? And
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  Speaker 1: I think, look, I'm curious about this, right? Was 2022
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  Speaker 1: an outlier? Was it the beginning of something? What's your
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  Speaker 1: explanation for it? And what's your path back?
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  Speaker 4: There was a huge divestment from the state after 2018.
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  Speaker 1: And....
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  Speaker 3: It was an excuse that was made because, oh, we,
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  Speaker 3: a progressive couldn't have won, a progressive couldn't have won.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, a progressive could.
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  Speaker 3: Have won if, you know, there were some things that
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  Speaker 3: could have been done a lot differently, but also from
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  Speaker 3: the campaign, but if the entire party apparatus would have
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  Speaker 3: got behind Andrew Gillum, we would not be in the
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  Speaker 3: state that we are in today.
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  Speaker 4: Literally and figuratively.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to separate Andrew Gillum, the person
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  Speaker 1: from that campaign at this point a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, given given his own personal challenges. What are
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  Speaker 1: you referring to in 2018?
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying is like if Andrew Gillum would have won,
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  Speaker 3: if the entire Democratic Party apparatus apparatus would have gotten
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  Speaker 3: behind him, even some of.
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  Speaker 4: The more moderates, we would have won. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like he won. He lost by point. five percent of
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  Speaker 3: a percentage point right right and so.
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  Speaker 1: You know you know the argument the argument is that
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  Speaker 1: gwen graham would have won you accept that premise i
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  Speaker 1: don't i.
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  Speaker 3: Don't because we had someone who ran the same policies
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  Speaker 3: like gwen graham soon after and he lost miserably And
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  Speaker 3: so what we have seen time and time again is
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  Speaker 3: that progressive policies win in the state of Florida. We
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  Speaker 3: want a 15 dollar minimum wage, which I help lead,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, as a statewide organizer. We would have
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  Speaker 3: won getting getting political interference out of abortion if Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump and Ashley Moody wouldn't have sold 10 million dollars and.
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  Speaker 4: Use that money to.
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  Speaker 3: Divert it to political slush funds and PACs that cause
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  Speaker 3: political interference, right? We also want automatic rights restoration for
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  Speaker 3: returning citizens.
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  Speaker 4: All of these are progressive policies.
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  Speaker 3: But time and time again, we keep running people who
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  Speaker 3: don't run on progressive values.
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  Speaker 4: Republicans like progressive policies. It benefits them, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, and so we have won progressive.
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  Speaker 4: Issues up and down the ballot. Like we won rent.
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  Speaker 3: Stabilization in Orange County, right? That's a progressive, that's a
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  Speaker 3: progressive issue, right? We are winning, we are winning all
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  Speaker 3: of these things. And so, but yeah, and still they
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  Speaker 3: keep trying to run candidates who unfortunately Don't even really
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  Speaker 3: align with some of these progressive policies.
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  Speaker 1: You're sharing a ballot. You're sharing a ballot with David Jolly.
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  Speaker 1: And I can, it sounds like you're describing his style
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  Speaker 1: or his brand of democratic politics.
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  Speaker 2: Are you?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't say, I didn't say that. David Jolly has
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  Speaker 4: some progressive issues.
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  Speaker 2: I know you didn't. That's why I'm asking you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: David Jolly is running on like the policies that he
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  Speaker 3: wants are progressive and for the people. Right. And so, Also, again,
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  Speaker 3: we are forming a very unique ticket.
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  Speaker 4: I am somewhat to the left. He is somewhat middle
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  Speaker 4: of the road. That's fine, though. He crosses the spectrum.
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  Speaker 3: The policies are speaking towards people, and that's what people want.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even about a label. Let's be clear.
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  Speaker 3: It's about issues that people care about that would help
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  Speaker 3: benefit and improve their quality of life. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm running on. That's what I've always ran on. That's
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  Speaker 3: what I've always supported. And that's what David Jolly is.
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  Speaker 4: Running on, too.
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  Speaker 1: I have two paths I want to go down with you.
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  Speaker 1: One is what you would do as a U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Senator.
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  Speaker 1: But before I get there, I find the Florida state legislature.
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  Speaker 2: To be the single most unfair, gerrymandered. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It is non-reflective of the state of Florida. It has,
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  Speaker 1: and it's been this way for decades. It strikes me
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  Speaker 1: as a really hard place to get things done, that
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of lobbyist control. The term limits issue
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  Speaker 1: has made lawmakers come in and out and that they
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  Speaker 1: have less power. Am I being overly cynical? Tell me
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  Speaker 1: how this the legislature can become a workable, functioning body
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  Speaker 1: of government. Because right now, every once in a while,
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  Speaker 1: they try to be an equal branch of government, but
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  Speaker 1: not often. It is just the idea that you pick
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  Speaker 1: a Speaker of the House years in advance so that
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  Speaker 1: they can get job offers. And the fact that people
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  Speaker 1: can work and get full-time jobs with people with business
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  Speaker 1: before the state It just feels like a corruptible institution.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say everybody in it's corrupt. That's
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  Speaker 1: not fair. But it allows for corruption to be easier.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it looks like from this layperson.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And so. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Am I overly cynical? I mean, I have a feeling
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  Speaker 2: you'll say amen on some of them. No, no.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the state of Florida is a very toxic,
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  Speaker 4: hostile work environment.
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  Speaker 3: They actually put my office in the basement with rats
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  Speaker 3: because I was pushing back against the unconstitutional maps that
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  Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis drew back in 2022.
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  Speaker 1: You believe your office space was punishment a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I was told that by the Speaker of the House.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Like he put me there to reprimand me and he
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  Speaker 3: took me out because he didn't like that.
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  Speaker 4: I went on social media and called him out about it. Right.
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  Speaker 4: He literally, what he said afterwards afterwards was.
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  Speaker 3: Before you have any issues, please make sure you come
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  Speaker 3: and talk to me about it first. And I'm so
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  Speaker 3: honored and happy that he did not win his nomination
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  Speaker 3: to become the governor of Shout out to you, Paul,
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  Speaker 3: what's his name?
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  Speaker 4: Paul Renner.
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  Speaker 2: Renner, I think, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul Renner. So funny.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, but yeah, so like, it's pay to play. It
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  Speaker 3: is pay to play there. And, but you can at
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  Speaker 3: times get things done. You have to be able to navigate.
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  Speaker 3: I was able to expand access to early childhood education.
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  Speaker 3: That's because Senator Erin Raul was a representative at the time.
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  Speaker 3: She took one of my bills and put it in
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  Speaker 3: her omnibus bills.
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  Speaker 4: And so you just have to know how to navigate
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  Speaker 4: and build relationships. A lot of Republicans like me in
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  Speaker 4: the state.
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  Speaker 1: Is it two parties? Is there two Republican parties in
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  Speaker 1: the state legislature?
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  Speaker 2: No. You know what I mean when I say that?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, I do. It's one, right? They all fall in line.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, they will work with you and put
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  Speaker 3: your amendments on and all that stuff if you don't
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  Speaker 3: make them look bad, right?
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  Speaker 4: And you don't rock the boat.
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  Speaker 3: I must say, even though he still did some bad stuff,
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  Speaker 3: I would say that Speaker Danny Perez was probably the
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  Speaker 3: better of the speakers.
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  Speaker 4: That I've ever had to work with. And so, and
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  Speaker 4: that's saying a lot.
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  Speaker 1: vote in Florida. I may end up voting in Florida
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  Speaker 1: again because that's what all of us do when we
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  Speaker 3: Is.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what it would take.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we just, we got to get rid of
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  Speaker 4: Like that's the main moneymaker.
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  Speaker 3: But what we did, what we learned this past legislative
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  Speaker 3: session was that there are a lot of, um, There
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  Speaker 3: or they have stocks in for-profit prisons. And so big
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  Speaker 3: money needs to get out of politics all around.
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  Speaker 4: But for sure, we need to make sure that.
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  Speaker 3: The people don't like we got to get money out
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  Speaker 3: of this stuff. A lot of this stuff is just
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  Speaker 3: a massive shakedown. Even when you're thinking about like how
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  Speaker 3: our emergency funding that was supposed to be used in
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  Speaker 3: some of that money in Baker County and some of
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  Speaker 3: these other detention centers. And he only did it so
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  Speaker 3: Ashley Moody's, no big contracts, right? Like there's so much
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  Speaker 2: Well, you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It just feels like a it feels like a place
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  Speaker 1: that could use a lot of political reform, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: open primaries.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think is the issue open primaries? Is it
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  Speaker 2: the gerrymandering?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The lack of what would you say? Well, we have
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  Speaker 2: seen since since.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Gillum got so close to the governor's mansion. We
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  Speaker 3: have continually seen a rollback on our voting rights.
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  Speaker 4: They have every year they say we.
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  Speaker 3: Have the safest and most secure elections, but every year
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  Speaker 3: they change the process for elections around elections.
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  Speaker 4: And so like that needs to be Like we're sending
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those bills need to be repealed. We're
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  Speaker 4: a democracy.
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  Speaker 3: We should be trying to make sure that everyone who
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  Speaker 3: is eligible to vote should be voting.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Also, like, yeah, they they drew illegal maps. Like, that's
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  Speaker 3: one thing that should have never happened. Right. uh, I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to, it's just, it's so much. That's just really
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  Speaker 3: jacked up.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But like, those are the most basic points right there.
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  Speaker 3: They literally, they literally have changed the, the voting laws for.
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  Speaker 4: Like the past, past six years.
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  Speaker 3: I believe the past six years, every year is.
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  Speaker 4: Something that they're changing.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to, if you get to the United States Senate, um.
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  Speaker 1: I get to the, you know, of course that's the
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  Speaker 1: way you should be talking.
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  Speaker 2: I get that.
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  Speaker 1: So, but I want to talk about as a Senator,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, on one hand, one Senator's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of power compared to, uh, um, the U S house,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time, you're going to have to get, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in order to get the votes you need, you might
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  Speaker 1: have to pull back on some of the things you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: need to get done. As somebody who's worked in a
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  Speaker 1: Republican legislature, in some ways, this will feel quite familiar
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  Speaker 1: to you. So how do you view trying to make
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, what do you make of how the Senate
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  Speaker 1: works now? And what is something that you're just itching
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to do and try the second you get there?
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  Speaker 4: Chuck, the Senate isn't working right now. Nothing's working in Washington, really.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they'll pass some bipartisan bills, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have any real teeth behind it. And, you know, did
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  Speaker 3: the Republicans, when the Democrats were in power, did they
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  Speaker 3: pull back?
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  Speaker 4: Or did they go all gas, no brakes?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: You think they pulled back too much? Or I mean...
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  Speaker 2: I assume that's what you believe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see like I don't see the Republic, the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Republic when the Democrats were in power. Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Thinking around like Obama era.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 4: The Republicans, we all gas, no brakes. They did not
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  Speaker 4: pull back anything.
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  Speaker 3: They kept pushing and yelling and screaming and disrupting and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: all the things.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Right now, people are dying. Right now, we.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Have a man in the White House that is laying
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the foundation to not leave. creating paramilitary forces that are
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: pushing the limit to see how far that they can go.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And so I am not going to continue to compromise
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: our values, to compromise.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: The lives and the livelihoods of Floridians and Americans. I'm
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: going to stand firm, right?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I am going to use an aggressive inside-outside strategy. to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: work to organize my caucus members and organize other members
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  Speaker 3: within the U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Senate.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm also going to use that same aggressive
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: strategy to organize out in the communities.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: One thing I know about being an elected official, we
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: do not like bad.
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  Speaker 3: Publicity or pressure, public pressure. And so we need more
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: organizers in the U.S. Senate and in Congress. so that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: we can actually put more pressure and be more vocal
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  Speaker 3: about what's happening. Too often times, people get away with
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: stuff in Washington, D.C. because folks back home don't know
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  Speaker 3: what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: We don't change that. We're going to change that when
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I become.
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  Speaker 3: next u.s senator which is actually chuck though which is
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  Speaker 3: actually what i have done as a state rep like
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  Speaker 3: i have been so vocal and caused many members of
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  Speaker 3: my caucus to be more vocal and caused many outside
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  Speaker 3: groups to be more vocal and that's that's why we
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: were able to stop some bad bills right and um
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  Speaker 3: to get some amendments on and that type of thing
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  Speaker 3: and so i'm gonna do the same thing when i
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  Speaker 3: become a u.s senator.
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  Speaker 1: It's a uh You're not the first person who has
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: pledged that they can shake up the Senate. And I've
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: seen people. I'm not going to name names. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I like these people. I think they're genuine in their
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  Speaker 1: attempts to do it. The place can stifle you. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it is it is tough.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I like I said, there's been some. People like yourself,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: very sort of who have had success organizing, who've gotten
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to the Senate and run into an organized brick wall,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to be frank.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think you could do differently?
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  Speaker 3: What I think that I can do differently is right now,
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  Speaker 3: this country is at an inflection.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Point, right?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Like we're at a crossroads and it costs too much
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: money just to be alive right now.
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  Speaker 4: And so. I'm going to.
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  Speaker 3: Organize the people outside to put pressure year round, 24-7,
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  Speaker 3: not just during an election year on those senators. We're
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: going to demand that these folks come into the communities.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And have in-person town hall meetings.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: We're going to debate. We're going to use social media, right?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: We're going to, like, we're moving away. We're saying, hey,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I'm on your podcast, right? Like, we are seeing folks
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: move away from traditional media. And we are going to
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: amplify with these influencers, with these non-traditional folks that are media,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: non-traditional media, as well as just in the community. And so,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: number one, we need to repeal that big BS bill.
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  Speaker 4: Something we need to do, and we need to extend
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: the ACA subsidies.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Right now, folks are frustrated, which is why we are
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: seeing such success with the No Kings rally. There are
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: not just Democrats going to these rallies. There are independents
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and Republicans who are fed up. And so now, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: this is the next 250 years of our country to start.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And so what we have seen, I'm a student of history,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: what we have seen all across the globe is that
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: there have been reiterations of different governments like we we're
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: due for a new iteration of something right and so
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: we have the opportunity to rebuild our country like our
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: institute like democracy has fallen here We see this guy
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: in the White House who, again, is rubber-stamped by Ashley Moody.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: They're going after the media. He's going after his political opponents.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: He has taken control of oil from a foreign country.
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  Speaker 4: It is mind-blowing, right?
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  Speaker 3: That is not what a democracy is.
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  Speaker 1: Have you run into Venezuelans who are upset about this?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just....
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  Speaker 1: I'm just sort of, it's kind of a head scratcher
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  Speaker 1: to me that we haven't seen more protests coming out of,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you know, communities.
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  Speaker 4: They're afraid. Chuck, they're afraid. That's why. They told me
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  Speaker 4: they're afraid to come out. They're afraid to get deported. Like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: that's what they said. Even if they're here the right way, right?
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  Speaker 3: Even if they are citizens of this.
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  Speaker 4: Country, they.
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  Speaker 3: are locking people up without due process.
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  Speaker 4: So people who are actual.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: U.s citizens can be locked up and not talk to
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  Speaker 3: their family their attorney for days and weeks there's no
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  Speaker 3: freaking process in place and you.
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  Speaker 1: Think that's having a huge impact on just people not
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  Speaker 1: wanting to speak out yeah Hell yes.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they told me.
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  Speaker 3: A guy by the name of Jay that I met
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: in Orlando said that his husband is Venezuelan and he
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: does not leave the house. He said he wanted to
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: be here at your rally today, but he could not.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: He did not come because he does not leave the house.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And he started crying like they are afraid. They are terrified.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: They're literally going into elementary schools, stealing, kidnapping kids and
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: using them as bait.
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  Speaker 4: Like, that's what we're up against.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: This is not normal.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And this is not OK.
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  Speaker 1: You've given your history working, especially working in northeast Florida,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: which is just such a competitive area. How did the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: same state vote for Obama and Trump? What did Trump do?
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  Speaker 3: It's what he spoke to people. He went out and
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: talked to them.
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  Speaker 4: He went out and had conversations with them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: He spoke to their concerns and he didn't sugarcoat anything, right?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: He spoke to the people that were hurting and that's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: literally what I'm doing, right? And it also like the party,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the Democratic Party stopped, they divested from the South.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: They divested from the South.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And I will say they divested from a lot of
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Black leaders, right?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: What does that say about us now? The party has
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: to figure out.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: If they're going to continue to use Black people for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: their labor and not advocate for their leadership.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Well, look, it's not lost on me. So you're an
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: African-American nominee in Florida. There's an African-American nominee in Mississippi.
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  Speaker 4: Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana.
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  Speaker 1: Every one of those races, there's been polling in the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks showing very close races. The National
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Party doesn't seem eager. Maybe they go into Mississippi.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that so difficult? Why do you think that's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: been so difficult?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Let me see if I'm trying to be.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: We're the South, and... You know, we.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Have to recognize that we can't.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Continue to say we're going to fight.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Against systemic and institutionalized racism. And we're not addressing it
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: within our party. If you look at, you know, Vice
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: President Harris was an anomaly with the amount of money
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: she was able to raise.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: And it was great.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: But some of the things that I am hearing from
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: people that are part of the party, well, she couldn't
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: do it. And so, cause she was black. And so
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: we don't need to invest in, in a black candidate
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  Speaker 3: that way. It'll never happen. It won't be done.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Within our party and within the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 3: and political director of the state party before. A lot
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: of folks in the party turned their back on me.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: A lot of folks in.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: The party have been supportive of me, always asked me
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: to stand up and do things that come.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Show up, show out, run bills, do this, do that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, when someone.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Who didn't look like me got in the race after me,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: it was, oh, Angie lacks depth.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Angie lacks experience.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: When I'm the only lawmaker, sitting lawmaker that was running
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: for U.S.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Senate at the time, right? And so, oh, Angie, Angie
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: says y'all too much. Oh, oh, Angie doesn't dress correctly.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Those are microaggressions rooted in racism.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: And so we have to, we have to.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Recognize that we got to fix some things within ourselves too,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: within the party.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: And so I, again, I'm an organizer and I am, um,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: believe in agitation.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm critical.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I'm also critical of this country because I love it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And I want it to be better just the same way.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I'm critical of my party because I love it and
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I want it to be better, but there, there's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: reason my husband, um, who I've been married to for
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: five years now, who he says that the Republican Party
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and the Democratic Party, they're two different wings on the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: same bird, right?
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: There's a reason people feel that way.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: He feels that way being married to a prominent Democrat
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: in the party in the state of Florida.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: And so if we don't work.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: To address those issues, then we have a problem and
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: we will never win the.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Way in which we need to.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you don't sound like a vote for Chuck Schumer.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I am someone who is going to get to Washington, D.C.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and assess whoever decides to run, ask them the tough questions,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: and then I'll make my decision after that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So you're not ready to talk about that stuff. That's interesting.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Right now, Chuck Schumer is the leader, and I'm going
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: to respect. him as such.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That will surprise a lot of people because, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: it's low-hanging fruit these days to bash Democratic leadership, right?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: But I find it interesting you won't do that. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: respect it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to bash anyone. Like, look, we have
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: one common goal. We need to take back the Senate and.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Take back the House. And I'm trying to do as
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: much as possible to do that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And in fighting, like, publicly in fighting, it ain't in fighting,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: but publicly fighting is not going to be helpful today.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, we need to move, not left,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: not right, but towards the people. And that's something that
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I've always done.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I'm going to continue to do and I'm going to
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: push people.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: To do as well.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Well, look, the whole reason I'm trying to be in
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: independent media is I like trying to stop rounding the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: edges on everything, right? And I take it you're tired
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: of politics being debated almost too sterilely, it sounds like.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It's almost too sterile, our political debate. And you'd like
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to see a little more.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: We just need to get shit done. We need to
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: get shit done, Chuck. We need to get shit done.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: So if you guys, if you get both. I spoke
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: with a girl in Boca. Go ahead. Tell me about that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: No, I spoke with a woman in Broward County the
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: other day. She's in her 30s.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: She was diagnosed with breast cancer a few years ago.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: And she was everything was working out. And then they
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: passed that big BS bill. And they cut back.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: The funding for her to be able to have access
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: to certain treatments.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: And her breast cancer returned and she has stage four
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: breast cancer. People are dying because people are playing games.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I don't have time to play games. I'm going to Washington, D.C.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: To do a job.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: And that is to ensure we are improving people's quality
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: of life here.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: And so I have no time to.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: For the BS like I'm only beholden to people I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: not beholden to corporations I'm not beholden to these billionaires
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be clear right like we don't see
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: as much fight from certain people because they benefit from
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: what's happening right now too they straight I'm not straight.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: My family and friends are not straight. And so my
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: community is not okay. And so I'm going to fight.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Like hell to change that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: But there are a lot of people within both parties who.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Are in office. They're okay. What's happening right now, they're
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: benefiting from it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And so unless you know what it's like to struggle,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: especially right now in this moment, You're going to keep
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: doing whatever it is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: That you're doing.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: How much time you want Democrats next year? How much
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: time do you want to be spending on debating whether
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: to impeach Trump? And how much time do you want
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to be spending debating Medicare for all?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I feel like you can do both. I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: a man has done some impeachable offenses. You should be
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: able you should be able to do both.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Right. Like Congress doesn't have to move as slow as
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: it moves. It doesn't.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: They're trying to make it seem like it's such a
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: convoluted process.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: It's so complex. It's not. It's not.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you guys have a special session and there's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: two days left, how quickly do bills get written and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: passed in the Tallahassee?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Come on, Chuck.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: You need to run for office. You speaking, man.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's lighten up here. What's been your favorite....
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: New town that you've traveled to in Florida that you
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: had no idea.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You had no idea. You're like, I can't believe how
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: much I love X. Tell me about it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I like the Apalachicola area. It is so beautiful.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Even though they had an issue with their water. But
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: when you're driving, when you're making that drive in like
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Port St. Joe area, it is absolutely beautiful.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Beautiful.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: That's the Panhandle area. It is absolutely beautiful. So I
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: love going over there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: It's far as hell, but.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I love going.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: And I take it you have a preference on which
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of the big three football schools. No offense to UCF.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I guess I should say big four if I'll count
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: UCF in this.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: You're a Gator.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Are you a Gator through and through? I'm a Gator. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm a Gator.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I won't hold that against you. Maybe I will.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I love my HBCUs sooner. We need to make sure
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: they get more funding.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: We have two really good ones. The Thin Cookman and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Florida A & M. And I'm sure I'm leaving a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: couple out. Yeah, I'm leaving a couple out.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Edward Waters University, which is in my current district.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: And then we have Florida Memorial University.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Florida Memorial.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have left that one out, but obviously. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: got a lot of friends, a lot of FAMU friends.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: So I always have to give them extra shout out.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Angie, be safe on the trail. I'm glad you're wearing
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a seatbelt. Nobody's going to give you a hard time
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: about that. And I appreciate you giving me some time.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Be safe out there. Nice to meet you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Bye.