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This hateful secret about men is why you can't trust your husband! | Dating Show · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian Alison,
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  and this is the dating show where we will be looking at more Hannah Cox
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  because she's you know, you do you do a Pokemon? You have like
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  a Pokemon and it evolves Yeah, yep, in the evolution of the bedroom
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  feminist. I'm just saying, she's like evolved, she's become uh this,
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  Yeah, but she's libertarian and she's so you know, yeah, I know
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  me, I don't. I have a skepticism. Well, I think that
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  I think that there are certain ideological I don't know, philosophies I guess,
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  or or spaces that are are so like they're easy to infiltrate. And I
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  think libertarian is in this one. That's yeah. I don't know if there's
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  a word for it, but like basically saying, look, bro, I'm
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  just about freedom is an you can easily like you know, get in there
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  and ruin it. And I think that's what's happening. I think that this
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  woman is basically it's it's libertarian gait M. The thing is that also,
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  you know, I'm gonna just lay out the cards on the table. This
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  study that she's citing has been redacted retracted, Yes, was retracted like ten
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  years ago or almost ten years ago. So if she had done the least
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  amount of due diligence, she would know that. And the specific study for
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  those of you who are tuning in and they don't, you don't know what
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  the heck we're talking about, it's a study that found that when wives get
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  ill, like critically ill, husbands are more likely to leave than when us
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  get critically ill. That you know, So if a spouse gets critically ill,
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  if it's the wife, the husband is more likely to leave. If
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  it's the husband, the wife is more likely to stay. So and this
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  this study has done the rounds and then done the rounds again, and then
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  done the rounds again and again and again and again. It keeps popping up
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  over and over and over again. And I think it The thing is that
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  I think the study does demonstrate something. It doesn't demonstrate what it professes to
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  demonstrate. Because it was we'redacted like it was. It was it was recalled
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  ten years ago, like almost ten years ago, in twenty fifteen, or
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  at least the article on the recall was in twenty fifteen, which means that
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  it could have recalled prior to that, so it's been it's been recalled for
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  nine years. So every person who says that men are more likely to leave
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  their critically ill wives than the reverse is perpetuate a falsehood about men, and
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  yet it persists and persists and persists, and once again we have Hannah Cox
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  basically spreading misinformation about men. But what's interesting, Okay, so the and
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  I know I'm going into the study, but I figure I should front load
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  this because we did a really clickbaity I don't want to call it clickbaity,
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  but it's something that will draw eyeballs, and I want to make sure that
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  everybody's very clear. The secret that we're dealing with here is that we live
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  in a society that not only goes out of its way to find ways of
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  smearing and demonizing men, but when those things are found to be false,
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  just continues to do it. So even though this study has been found to
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  be false, it is still promoted as if it is true. She's the
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  latest incarnation of the individuals who apparently are so motivated by condemning men, by
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  hating on men, or at the very least presenting men as morally inferior to
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  women. She's one of the next iteration of people who are promoting this study,
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  which has been recalled at least the finding that they promoted is no longer
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  true. And I could get into why, but I just want to point
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  that out that this is misinformation. But because it's misinformation that paints men in
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  a bad light, women like Hannah Cox continue to push it, which says
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  something about our society. I mean that not just that we want to find
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  this stuff, but that we hold on to it even when it's proven false,
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  because it makes us feel good. It makes us feel good to see
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  men as inferior, inferior to women. And there's even studies that prove that
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  this is something that we as a group of people pursue. We prefer things
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  that make men look inferior to women. And if something like if you have
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  a study that shows that men are better at something, we are more likely
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  to regard that study as false. So if this was a study that showed
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  that women are more likely to leave, we would be more likely to regard
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  it as false and bury it because we don't want to see that. And
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  by we, I mean everybody in our society. We're all like this.
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  You know, even we here on Honey Badger Radio. You know you we
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  have the same set of instincts to believe women, to want to see that
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  things you know, the best of women, and that women are better than
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  men, you know, to to hate men who hurt women, et cetera.
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  Like this is this is a universal. It's why we mock people who
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  are like, oh you you care about violence against women? Oh do you
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  do you wanna? Do you want a gold star for breathing? Like every
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  human being on the planet, like this is not special, but you know,
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  so this is this is something that is very deep in human nature.
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  We believe the worst of men, and we promote the worst of men.
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  And it is almost impossible, even in a situation where what we're promoting false
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  and been retracted, to actually stop it from continuing to be promoted. So
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  once again it's being promoted. And this individual is presenting this misinformation because it
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  satisfies something in her emotionally to feel morally superior to men. I mean,
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  she didn't do the least amount of critical research or investigation into whether or not
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  this was true before she blasted it at all of her followers. And that's
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  just unbelievable, and then we will and then there are people who will say
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  the reverse, that we are a society that wants to benefit women or men
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  at the expense of women, that sees men is better than women, that
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  prioritizes men, that sees men as or women is inferior to men. Swhere.
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  You know, this is the funny thing is that in a society obsessed
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  with sin, they see sin everywhere everywhere. Because we are obessed with this
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  idea that women be seen as better than men, we see the opposite everywhere,
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  even where it doesn't exist. And I just wanted to point this out
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  because so the secret of this stubby study is that it proves something about us.
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  It proves that we will promote false information if it paints men badly,
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  and it's almost impossible to stop doing it. It's almost impossible to stop this
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  result from being presented by triumphalists, like by female supremacist triumphalists, like like,
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  this is triumphalism. Look at her face, it's triumphalism. She is
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  absolutely thrilled to show us how men are inferior, are morally inferior to women.
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  You know, and again like our rebuttal of this is probably not gonna
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  see as much as her original pushing of this misinformation about men. She's really
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  unfortunate. Oh goodness, okay, shall we uh all right? Yeah,
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  do you want to sing any things? First? Thank you for introducing the
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  things so I can think them. All right. So we are doing our
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  You know, when we see something that paints men in a bad light,
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  we say, wait, is that true? And more often than not,
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  when you look at it, when you poke it a bit, it falls
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  apart. I mean, this thing just completely disintegrates. So if you want
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  there's a trend here. There's a trend with you guys, all right,
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  so feed the Badger dot com. I got a super I got a super
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  chowel ready already. Okay, So yep, Richard Berre gives us fine bucks
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  and says, I remember hearing a woman saying that if her husband were to
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  wind up on life support in a comatose state, she would not give permission
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  to withdraw his life support, no matter how bad his condition would get because
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  she could keep receiving his pension as long as his body kept breathing. Wow,
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  that's really mercenary. Ugh, pretty cold blooded. Yeah, you know,
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  I can't really ascertain the truth of that anecdote, but that is one
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  damn cold blooded anecdote. Okay, let's uh, speaking of cold blood,
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  let's listen to some Hannah Cox. So let's put her back on the screen
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  there. Okay, we're just starting this froem from the beginning. This video
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  is entitled why do Men Move on So Quickly? For those of you who
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  are listening and not watch, we have an image of Hannah Cock's looking very
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  chipper because even though she has a fiance, she's gonna tell us how it's
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  a terrible choice to have a man. Yeah, his choice, and it
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  was awful like having a man. I have a man, by the way,
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  but having a man is like having a meth habit. Wait, get
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  you know, I just had this thought. I haven't listened to this yet,
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  but what if one of the ways that the one good man phenomenon manifests
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  is when women like this make men feel like they are the one. Oh
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  yeah, I've talked about this. Yes, she is like it must because
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  she always says in her video, is that her man is different, like
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  better, not like other men, not like other boys. Yes, yeah,
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  honestly, I think it's probably also an ego boost for him. He
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  thinks he's the one good man. She thinks we got the one good man.
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  It's almost like women have a way of, like, you know,
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  encouraging men to do things. It's like they have a power over them.
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  Yeah, and this is like crack, I mean, because the altern it.
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  Honestly, you're right, Men and women don't escape each other. And
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  Hannah Cox really hasn't escaped men, and her men probably hasn't escaped her.
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  They still have the same dynamic as men and women have had throughout all of
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  human history. The question is is does the dynamic encourage a healthy social fabric
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  and the idea that men are the worst option that women could choose in their
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  life, like there's nothing worse than a woman can do to herself than choose
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  a man. Right, that idea is toxic to the process of pair bonding
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  and also even just the process all the instincts that are recorded that build on
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  air bonding in order to construct the society that we have and I can explain
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  that it's a little bit rarefied, I guess, But like societies come from
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  places like basically, we're just gigantic breeding colonies, and when we cease to
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  breed, the colony collapses. Right, So the question isn't just Okay,
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  so Hannah Cox, she got her man right. Is she sacrificing other women's
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  potential relationships to inflate her own? That's a question is she doing that?
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  Because this is this goes well beyond miss injury and misogyny. It really gets
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  into it's not even an issue of miss injury or misogyny, and it might
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  be an issue of a woman's misogyny towards other women, but she is expressing
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  contempt for the majority of women's relationships with men when she's triumphalist about stuff like
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  this. Now, that is misanderous, But if you think about it,
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  it's also toxically intersectional competition between men or between women and women. Okay,
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  so shall we listen, Let's get into it, preloaded all of this.
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  Yeah, let's get into it. Let's find out what she has to say.
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  Derek Workman gave us huh, maybe she'll surprise us. Yeah, maybe,
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  Derek Workman gave us a five dollars super chat and it includes a little
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  what do you call them, like a super if emoji thing super mooji of
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  like a little looks like a fox or she enu saying haya. So thank
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  you Derek Workman for that. I think putting it up on the screen isn't
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  going to do anything because it won't display those So yes, Social stream Engine
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  needs to get on that. Okay, let's play some of this video now.
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  Thank you. Oh and I got one an anonymous superchow yeah for five
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  as well. I know they sort of. Here's the other thing. If
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  you send us super chows in screwed up, you can always send me a
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  message and I can correct things. It's from yeah, if you meant to
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  add something to that, Yeah, yeah, it's from Critter and he meant
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  to say, please correct me, Allison, I need it in quotes sarcasm.
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  So I don't know if you want me to correct you or do you
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  not want me to correct you? Yeah, I don't know. You have
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  to make a decision, So let's let's let's let's listen to some play.
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  Hey guys, I'm Hanna Cocks with Base Politics. We welcome back to my
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  show Historyonics. For every week, I'm giving you a sane, middle of
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  the road take on women's issues. You know you missed it. You missed
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  an opportunity, Hannah to call it herstrionics. I'm just saying that it would
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  be better. This is the middle of the road take. But you don't
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  check your sources? Is that? Yeah? Ten years this has been Debontana
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  Alison. Know you know that if you put the word based in the title
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  of your thing, it just automatically makes it correct. Did you not know
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  that something? It's like, everything is all image like. What does it
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  look like? Does it look based? It's based? No? If I
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  say it's based, it's a skin, it's a skin. Yeah it is?
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  It is all right? All right? Anyway, let me play more.
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  If you like this video, make sure to share it around, leave
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  me alike in a comment, and don't forget to subscribe to the channel.
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  This week, we have to talk about a subject that's not really politically related,
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  but it does keep me up at night. I want to put it
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  on your radar. I have always had a little bit of anxiety about She's
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  Oh, she's had anxiety. What was that real? There's a subtle thrill
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  in her voice. You know, I gotta tell you about I gotta I
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  gotta spill the tea, ladies, I gotta spill the tea. Okay,
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  so she's got anxiety about something getting married. But one of the things that
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  makes me the most tep it about it is a statistic that shows women are
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  far more likely to be abandoned by their husbands when they get a terminal diagnosis.
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  Okay, could you talk for a second that way that she said terminal
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  diagnosis? Like, did you hear that in the vocal fry? Not just
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  the vocal fry. It is the sound of go back, go back a
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  little bit. Just listen to it. Just listen to it, get a
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  terminal diagnosis? He did you hear the last It sounds like she's smiling while
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  she says that you may. Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, I
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  can. I can hear the smile in her voice. Yeah. What is
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  it that's so thrilling about this information? Like, what is it exactly that
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  you're getting out of it? I think she thinks that she's about to like
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  maybe there is a sense of I'm about to put something out there that no
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  one else has thought of. Yet and I am proud of myself. Again,
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  this has been redacted for ten years. Ten years, I can put
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  the when when we get to we can put the study like your Yeah,
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  if you have a link to the source that shows that it's been redacted,
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  right, yeah I do. I sent it to you. Yeah, yeah,
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  I got it. Yeah, And we can discuss some of the dick
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  moves that the original researchers are doing. But but well, let's get to
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  it. Let's see. So maybe, yeah, maybe she's happy because it
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  proves that women are morally superior. Again yeah, again, maybe that's the
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  Maybe there is a gratification being feeling like the better person, you know,
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  because this rare thing that probably doesn't happen very often at all, which is
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  also wrong, might you know, is like less likely to happen with women.
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  It's like weirdly like layered moralism. I don't know, but anyway,
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  and then also redacted. So I mean, it's all based on sense.
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  But I see that it's taking it's been doing the rounds on TikTok, which
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  again really sells something like you know that old saying that a lie can go
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  around the world before the truth, before the truth gets its shoes on or
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  its pants on. Ye, something that makes men look bad can go around
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  the world before the the debunking or the redaction. Even well it doesn't even
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  get out of bad. Study that frames men in the negative light can get
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  a lot more traction, like way faster than the truth about that study,
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  because we already have like we're inclined to believe that all these women are proving
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  something about our attitude towards men. All of them are the secret, like
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  they are the they are the proof of something. Okay, let's go all
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  right, thank you some more credit. They started studying this a while back,
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  actually, but it's a statistic that I think flies shockingly under the radar.
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  Women are actually six times more likely to end up separated or divorced if
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  they are diagnosed with cancer and multiple sclerosis and if they're redacted. This is
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  the one. Yeah, let me grab People are asking about the study,
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  so maybe like the like your source on the redaction. Let's see, we're
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  talking about this feteen years ago. So yeah, so we're talking about this,
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  So this is this. This article was updated prior to this tweet reaction.
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  The study that found men frequently of their wives when they get sick was
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  redacted. Okay, let me share this tab instead. So what are people?
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  So? This is from January sixth, twenty twenty four. And if
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  you click on this link which I'll share, watch from retraction and watch which
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  tracks retractions as a window into the scientific process. To our horror, widely
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  reported studies suggesting divorces more likely when wives fall ill gets acts. A widely
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  reported finding that the risk of divorce increases when wives fall ill but not when
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  men do, is invalid thanks to a short string of mistaken coding that negates
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  the original conclusions published in the March issue of the Journal of Health and Social
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  Behavior. In the paper In Sickness and in Health Physical illness is a risk
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  factor for marital dissolution in later life garnered coverage in many news outlets, including
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  The Washington Post, New York Magazines, The Science of US Blog, the
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  Huffington Post, and the UK's Daily Mail. But an error in a single
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  line of the coding that analyzed the data means the conclusions in the paper and
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  all the news stories about those conclusions are more nuanced. According to first author
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  Amelia Carricker, an assistant professor at Iowas State University, who who seems to
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  be handling the case quickly and responsibly, emailed us how she realized the error,
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  and this is her email. Shortly after the paper was published, some
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  colleagues from Bowling Green State, I Fenn Lynn, and Susan Brown emailed me
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  and my co author about their our estimate of divorce. They were trying to
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  replicate the paper and couldn't understand why their estimate was so much lower than ours.
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  I sent them the statistical analysis file which documents all of the steps as
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  to how we came to all the estimates in the paper, and they pointed
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  out to us, to our horror, that we had miscoded the dependent variable.
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  As soon as we realized we made this mistake, we contacted the editor
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  and told him what was happening and said, we made a mistake. We
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  accept responsibility for it. Speaking us on the phone, Character added, people
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  who left the study were actually miscoded as getting divorced, So people who left
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  the study say were actually miscoded or miscategorized as getting a divorce in the corrected
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  code. Character and her co author did the analysis again and found the results
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  stand only when wives develop heart problems, not other illnesses. She said,
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  what we find is in the corrected analysis is we still see evidence that when
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  wives become sick, marriages are at an elevated risk of divorce, whereas we
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  don't see any relationship between divorce and husband's illness. We see this in a
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  very specific case, which is the onset of heart problems. So basically it's
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  a mere nuance finding. The finding is not quite as strong. What were
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  you going to say? It is? This is absolutely bullshit. I'm going
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  to get into why. We'll go look at another tweet? So did you
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  send me the other one? Yes, it's it's basically in the in the
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  tweet train of the previous Uh oh oh, so like wait, let me
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  like in this one. Yes, in this tweet train, go down a
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  bit bit further, go down a bit further, and so what you want
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  to select? Okay, go back up, go back up a bit,
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  stop down just a little bit. Just one tweet down there right here?
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  Who brought this to our attention? Says Leah Lobresco, sergeant. Once you're
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  sliccensed data by data without a reason for expecting different results, I suspect p
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  hacking more than signal. Okay, so I sent you another video. What
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  is P hacking? What is P hacking? Okay, I sent you the
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  video. If you we're putting it up on the screen now, yep.
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  So I'm I'm gonna share this tab so that you can see it, and
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  I'm going to play this. What is P hacking? What is P hacking?
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  P hacking refers to a mix of practices which scientists use to find a
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  P value less than point zero five. One example is testing multiple outcome measures
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  to find one that chose the statistically significant difference. Another example is isolating a
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  portion of the sample for analysis. In all cases, scientists are exploiting statistical
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  properties to phish for significance. Okay, so P hacking like significance. If
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  you look at that graph, zero point five is indication of no significance,
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  right, So let's go back just show the graph, all right. So
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  yeah, So what essentially they did is they cut they separated out each disease
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  until they could find something with significance, and then they compared apparently, according
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  to what she's saying, what happened when women got heart disease if their husband's
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  left versus all the situation for a man with all diseases, Like so a
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  man gets every They didn't separate it as far as I can tell, because
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  they're saying that, you know, so they didn't even compare when a man
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  gets heart disease, does the woman leave? No, Based only on what
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  they're saying, they compared when a man when a woman gets heart disease and
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  the rate that a man leaves when she gets heart disease to the null finding
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  when it comes to divorce or the fact or the rate at which women leave
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  men okay for all sicknesses. So this is pea hacking. Like at this
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  point, this is they're trying to preserve their bullshit finding by calling it more
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  nuanced or trying to find the one single segment where it's true. Right.
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  This is very deceitful, right, and we can't be completely sure that they're
• 26:27
  being honest when they say these things. Now, having said that, I
• 26:34
  will take a look and make sure that Hanna Cox isn't using a different study.
• 26:38
  But this is the study that has been doing the rounds, and it
• 26:41
  has been redacted even after they attempted to massage the data to continue to say
• 26:48
  what they wanted to say. So what actually happened is that when the wife
• 26:52
  got sick, the couple was more likely to leave the study, and maybe
• 26:57
  that is because they didn't want They didn't want to prioritize responding to researchers when
• 27:04
  one of them was sick and was critically ill or dying, when the wife
• 27:08
  was critically ill or dying, but the priority to responding to the researchers didn't
• 27:12
  didn't decrease like, it didn't didn't like. So, in other words,
• 27:18
  it could be a situation where the husband prioritized his wife over the research versus
• 27:23
  a wife who didn't prioritize her husband over the research. It could be that
• 27:27
  who knows, they can probably interpret it in a negative way towards women,
• 27:32
  a negative way towards men. The fact is we don't know. And the
• 27:37
  other fact is that this finding is false in this study. And even if
• 27:47
  there's another study that finds that this is true, the fact that everybody is
• 27:52
  focusing on that instead of recognizing that there there is at least one study that
• 27:57
  doesn't is a problem. Okay, So let's let's keep going with Hannah Coock.
• 28:03
  Eh all right, let's go back to Hannah Cox. Are people satisfied
• 28:07
  with so now? No? Yeah, Now, I think you guys can
• 28:10
  see that assuming well, let's see. I don't know if I've never watched
• 28:14
  this video, so I don't know if Hannah Cox will be like, I'm
• 28:17
  gonna respond to the latest data. But it sounds like she missed the be
• 28:19
  hacking thing as well, so either using the old data or the sort of
• 28:26
  damage controlled updated data, but not the not the actual data, right,
• 28:33
  yeah, not the actual data. Yeah, Okay, their male partners were
• 28:37
  facing the same illnesses. One study showed the divorce or separation they what,
• 28:42
  no, I didn't say anything. I just made a mistake of somebody.
• 28:45
  Oh, okay, okay, okay. Arm plant ration rate among cancer patients
• 28:49
  with about eleven point six percent, which was similar to the general populations,
• 28:53
  but they found the rate jump to twenty point eight percent when the woman was
• 28:56
  sick versus two point nine percent when the man was ill. I'm going to
• 29:00
  lose my mind over this. They went on to note that female gender was
• 29:04
  the strongest predictor of separation or divorce and Anna, you're going to lose your
• 29:08
  mind over this. You sound like you're this is thrilled. You sound like
• 29:11
  your Christmas has come early. Okay. Yeah, And on top of that,
• 29:22
  like, well, it's weird though too right, Like if Hannah Cox
• 29:26
  takes good care of herself, you know, and lives healthy and and is
• 29:33
  I mean like inevitably we're all going to fall ill like at some point,
• 29:38
  but you do the best you can. And so it's a strange thing to
• 29:41
  fret over. There's like a very small chance of like a fatal illness.
• 29:47
  And then on top of that, the thing that concerned you the most isn't
• 29:49
  the fatal illness itself, but the possibility that your man might leave you because
• 29:56
  of it. Like how about, I don't know, foster a loving,
• 29:59
  really relationship with your man, and he probably won't do that. I mean,
• 30:04
  I was. I had cancer in twenty seventeen, and a part of
• 30:08
  me was worried that, you know, because Lindsey and I hadn't been together
• 30:11
  very long. I mean I learned I got cancer less than a year after
• 30:15
  we got married. But she's stuck around, so and I was, you
• 30:19
  know, I'm eternally grateful. I mean, I've I've come, I've had
• 30:23
  brushes with death a couple of times, actually, but she stays by me,
• 30:27
  and I would do the same for her. I mean, she's always
• 30:30
  you know, she's looked. She's a very what's the word for it.
• 30:34
  I want to say, like she's a little paranoid about getting sick. You
• 30:40
  know. So what we're seeing here is that this is a selective choice.
• 30:48
  This may be a different paper. I noticed that they are only looking at
• 30:55
  a couple different types of severe illness in this paper. But the other thing
• 31:00
  is that we're also likely dealing with a replicatability crisis, because the later paper
• 31:07
  in twenty fifteen did not find this. So in two thousand and nine,
• 31:11
  the paper that Hannah Cox is using found something. Although maybe there's the same
• 31:19
  situation as in the twenty fifteen paper. It was based on like five hundred
• 31:25
  people, by the way, guys, and they were a malignant brain tumor
• 31:30
  or multiple sclerosis while married at the time of the diagnosis. And so we
• 31:37
  have one study from two thousand and nine that showed that men are more likely
• 31:41
  to leave, one study from twenty fifteen that didn't show that, except when
• 31:47
  you do like the pea hacking and look at just women who have heart disease,
• 31:53
  which again, if you wanted to, it's possible, and we don't
• 31:59
  know if they did that, that you could pe hack the men's results and
• 32:02
  find women leaving because men had testicular cancer or something like that. Sorry,
• 32:07
  Brian, just the first thing that came to mind. Oh, it's fine,
• 32:10
  Like I'm over it. I'm just glad to be here. Yeah.
• 32:19
  So we're looking at from what I can tell, she's only looking at the
• 32:24
  two thousand and nine study. Let's see what the other one is, dating
• 32:30
  and remarriage over the first two years of widowhood. Okay, all right,
• 32:38
  and I think that that okay, so we'll probably get to that because I
• 32:43
  know where she's going with that one. So the two studies that I see
• 32:45
  that she's citing, I'm not looking at the articles because they're irrelevant. But
• 32:52
  the two studies that I see that she's citing are one that doesn't relate to
• 32:54
  the topic at hand, which is whether or not men leave, and one
• 32:59
  that was done in two two thousand and nine. And again, the study
• 33:00
  that we are talking about that was redacted because it actually found that men don't
• 33:05
  leave more often was done in twenty fifteen. So we're looking at something that
• 33:12
  it's inconsistent, and yet she's choosing to look at And how is it that
• 33:17
  she could have missed the twenty fifteen study. That's a little odd, like
• 33:23
  if she was doing a proper literature review. Okay, well, anyway,
• 33:28
  let's keep going. Okay, let's keep going. Groups. They studied reason
• 33:32
  men leave a six fouls can be partially explained by their inability to rapidly adjust
• 33:37
  to becoming a caregiver and to look after the home and family. Study also
• 33:40
  found links between eight. This is something that I considered. Again, this
• 33:45
  is the two thousand and nine study. There's a twenty fifteen study that didn't
• 33:50
  find this. The what I considered when I was dealing with the twenty fifteen
• 33:53
  study is that women are often more likely to be the one who was the
• 33:59
  primemory like the to takeing care of the home, taking care of the kids.
• 34:04
  So how much of this is a man suddenly has to do two things.
• 34:07
  He has to make sure the bills get paid and he has to take
• 34:12
  care of a sick wife, which, even when you're dealing with like a
• 34:17
  normal person, that's a lot to put on a person, and it's a
• 34:21
  lot more. Then continue to be a caretaker, continue to do the job
• 34:24
  that you've already been doing, right, And and the other thing is that
• 34:34
  how much of this is also, like, did this particular study determine which
• 34:38
  one is doing the leaving, because that's not clear as far as I can
• 34:43
  tell. But anyway, let's keep going, all right, Let's keep going.
• 34:47
  And linked of marriage and the likelihood of divorce or separation. They said
• 34:52
  longer marriages were more likely to remain stable, but the older the woman,
• 34:55
  the more likely the partnership would end. Like, I am not okay with
• 34:59
  this information. Just okay, Wait, Life threatening illnesses create severe stress that
• 35:04
  may result in marital discord, deparation, or divorce, and may adversely impact
• 35:07
  treatment, quality of life, and surpible. The few studies that are available
• 35:12
  to date have suggested the risk of divorce is not higher in cancer patients,
• 35:15
  but to the author's knowledge, no data exists to to date that have exampined
• 35:19
  the gender the effective gender on this rate. Okay, so this is like
• 35:24
  the first study, and I wonder if they've done any studies after that sort
• 35:30
  of inconsistent thing that happened in twenty fifteen. So I'm wondering if they just
• 35:36
  abandoned it because they weren't finding the right results. I mean, I have
• 35:39
  to look at this a little bit more but we could. Let me see,
• 35:45
  I got a super chow. Okay, great, Okay, So Richard
• 35:49
  Bierre gives us five bucks and says, the factor not being considered it might
• 35:53
  be just how close the men is to expiring when with a major illness versus
• 36:00
  how some women will get better insurance coverage benefits if she is divorced versus what
• 36:05
  she would get if you know, she remains married. Then we talked a
• 36:09
  little bit about that as well, And there are stories. I mean,
• 36:15
  I wouldn't I wouldn't make I wouldn't make the claim either, like in either
• 36:22
  direction, whether or not men or women are more likely to leave their spouses
• 36:28
  if their spouses like encounter like tremendous hardship, like a terminal illness or fatal
• 36:34
  illness or whatever. I don't see the benefit in that, but I will,
• 36:40
  you know, refute the claims that Hannah Cox is going with, which
• 36:45
  is that because when you start saying men are more likely to do this thing
• 36:51
  and you're not, you're not really doing your due diligence to like ensure that
• 36:55
  your data is correct. But even if you do, I mean, you're
• 37:00
  you're not really just giving us a study. You're trying to convince us of
• 37:05
  a certain attitude or behavior that men have towards women. That is just like
• 37:10
  this is just like you know, supposed to add to these presumptions, right,
• 37:15
  like, look, men are more likely to leave their women, and
• 37:17
  that goes along with men are more likely to you know, cat call,
• 37:22
  men are more likely to assault women. Men are more likely to do this
• 37:25
  or that, And then you know, you're you have these all these small
• 37:30
  things that are you normally can't you know, like paint with such a broad
• 37:36
  brush, but you give so many it's like instead of painting with a broad
• 37:38
  brush, you're doing pointalism, you know, but you're putting a lot of
• 37:42
  little dots until you fail the canvas. And you're like, look at this
• 37:45
  is how men are. It's one of these things is going to happen,
• 37:47
  you know. Like so I don't know, like I wouldn't say that women
• 37:52
  are more likely to but I will say that the state creates the incentives where
• 38:02
  women will benefit more if they do. So you almost think, well,
• 38:07
  okay, well, well women are more incentivized to like not have a man
• 38:13
  in the home, you know, and and if you men are not incentivized
• 38:17
  to do that stuff women are more sort of socially that we socially accept.
• 38:22
  Here's the like, like what Richard was saying, how much of this is
• 38:28
  a situation where if the woman leaves, she becomes she becomes eligible for more
• 38:37
  government handouts? Yeah, Like did they control for that? Like, did
• 38:43
  they look at that as a as a potential issue? And again like this,
• 38:47
  they've done additional later research that didn't find this. Okay, you know
• 38:52
  you probably you know who you know who would be really great about looking into
• 38:57
  whether or not the state can have an impact on a study like that.
• 39:00
  Somebody who's critical to the state, you know, like a libertarian. Oh
• 39:06
  goodness, yeah, I mean it's like the one saving grace of libertarians.
• 39:13
  The one thing about libertarians that I like is that they are anti state,
• 39:16
  or at least critical of the state. But this is left out. You
• 39:22
  know, I've seen a lot of libertarians like that were supposedly super hardcore become
• 39:25
  really statists under the right conditions. So, you know, I get it.
• 39:31
  It's hard. It's hard to stay principled for people. Do I play
• 39:36
  more? Okay? Yeah? Sure, play more? Okay. Just to
• 39:39
  be clear, this isn't like a little dinky study here there. This was
• 39:42
  actually studied by the National Institutes of Health, which like, screw those guys,
• 39:45
  I know. But point being, they have actually looked at this across
• 39:50
  the country and it wait a minute, Wait a minute, Hannah, what
• 39:53
  did you just do? So you are like the National Institute of Health.
• 39:57
  Okay, it's a state organization, but but trust me on this. They're
• 40:01
  correct. Okay, But is this okay? So let me look at the
• 40:06
  methodology is going into it. First of all, they didn't study all forms
• 40:10
  of illness. This specifically relates to brain cancer and muscular scleurosis, right and
• 40:22
  perspectively identified. So where is this coming from? Where is this coming from?
• 40:28
  Uh? What body of evidence? Like what what? You know?
• 40:35
  I'd have to look at this more deeply to figure out where what what cold
• 40:39
  like what survey? If this is coming from, it's because the previous one
• 40:45
  is it says right here, Uh, the we in this study we use
• 40:50
  a sample of two thousand, seven hundred minute marriages from the Health and Retirement
• 40:53
  Study, So it's a longitudinal study. And in this one, it's not
• 40:59
  really clear where where they got this these five hundred and fifteen the study that
• 41:05
  Hannah Cox is siting is based on five hundred and fifteen patients, and I'm
• 41:08
  not sure where they got them. I'm still trying to find that I got
• 41:12
  the actual study here, so I'm looking at it as we speak. Once
• 41:16
  again, this is the two thousand and nine study. We already have a
• 41:21
  twenty fifteen study that hasn't found this, So you know, keep that in
• 41:27
  mind, Like, if you were genuinely interested in seeing both sides, if
• 41:31
  you were really center of the road, don't you think you would bring up
• 41:35
  the the later study that Oh yeah, I know, right, Why wouldn't
• 41:40
  you use? Why are you using this study and not a more recent one?
• 41:44
  Yeah? Yeah, okay, curious curious? Curious are and curious are
• 41:52
  holds true? And to be honest, the reasons that they give for why
• 41:55
  men tend to leave their wives more often when they are diagnosed with cancer versus
• 42:00
  the other way around don't make me feel any better. They're like, oh,
• 42:01
  well, the man's not used taking care of anybody. The wife wants
• 42:05
  takes care of him. You see her, You know that. I don't
• 42:08
  think that's also taking care of someone, right, isn't isn't? Yeah?
• 42:14
  Isn't that that's a is there is that in the study, is there like
• 42:17
  where they say, well, I don't I don't know how to take care
• 42:20
  of people, Like what that's why the men leave. I don't know what
• 42:25
  how to make anything. I can't even boil water. I don't even know
• 42:30
  if it indicates if the men were the ones leaving. No, I think
• 42:32
  she's making assumptions about I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong,
• 42:37
  But well, here's the other thing. Like it, it's it is actually
• 42:40
  a legitimate issue. Like if you're the one who's supposed to be paying the
• 42:45
  bills and then you get an additional burden of taking direct like palliative care for
• 42:52
  another human being, that's that's two shifts, Whereas if you are the one
• 42:57
  who stayed at home and taking care of others, you're not gaining another shift.
• 43:02
  You see what I'm saying. Yeah, like that that is a significant
• 43:07
  issue. The fact that she's just waiving that is as unbelievable. Yeah,
• 43:15
  I wouldn't want to be her fiance, hey, because she doesn't seem to
• 43:19
  understand that. Like, the problem is that she seems to be a woman
• 43:24
  who measures men by women's needs rather than like a like a pragmatic understanding of
• 43:31
  what they're capable of. So if a woman is capable of fulfilling a invalid,
• 43:39
  her invalid husband's needs because she is a stay at home because the bills
• 43:45
  are now being paid by her his insurance presumably, and she was always a
• 43:49
  stay at home, she was always a caretaker, So it's not necessarily it's
• 43:52
  an additional maybe work what she wasn't expecting, but it's not the same as
• 43:59
  have to go to work and then come home and take care of someone.
• 44:02
  That's two shifts compared to one. See what I'm saying, like, it's
• 44:07
  two jobs compared to one, and she's just hand waving it. And I
• 44:10
  think she's hand waving it because she doesn't base her her perception of effort on
• 44:17
  a pragmatic understanding of what each spouse is doing, but on whatever the woman
• 44:22
  needs. So if the woman the man isn't able to do those two jobs,
• 44:28
  if he isn't able to fulfill all of those needs, it isn't that
• 44:30
  he's doing more. It's in fact, that she's he's doing less somehow that
• 44:36
  makes sense, or not doing enough, because the baseline isn't a pragmatic assessment
• 44:43
  of what's possible but whatever a woman is needs. I mean, you got
• 44:45
  to think about that, like just be careful, you're not doing that anyway.
• 44:50
  Okay, I got a superchow good good, all right from as ass
• 44:54
  thrun thank you, ask run for the super child, and he says for
• 45:00
  five dollars. A little bit off topic but relatable. I found an article
• 45:05
  of a study by Lene Leanna Slayer or Sayer of Ohio State University. I
• 45:10
  found that when a man gets unemployed, it is more likely that a woman
• 45:14
  divorces them than vice versa. If I was Cox, I'd make a video
• 45:19
  and then get blasted for not exploring if there are more studies on this topic.
• 45:22
  Still, it'd make women look worse than men to do men than men
• 45:27
  do in the illness slash sickness study. Well that I mean, yeah,
• 45:34
  when men lose their job, women are more likely divorced than that that.
• 45:37
  I'm not you know that. I think we all know that, right,
• 45:40
  Like this is just I'm not saying it's right, but it is the truth.
• 45:45
  Of course, I don't think Hanna Cox will cover it because she's probably
• 45:50
  not that dissimilar from the woman that we responded to yesterday that was like broke
• 45:53
  men should die alone. So a man who loses his job is basically a
• 45:59
  broke man. There's there's countless stories of men who, you know, either
• 46:04
  they get laid off or their industry collapses. Like there's a lot of men
• 46:09
  who lost their wives that live in West Virginia when they close the coal mines
• 46:15
  because that was what they knew. And you know, there was that whole
• 46:20
  like learned the code thing that came out of that, and yeah, it's
• 46:25
  you know, I don't know, it's tough. I mean, I want
• 46:30
  I think that women should stick by their men through the hard times. But
• 46:34
  you know, we don't treat we don't treat marriage like like it's well like
• 46:39
  that that's matters. You know, go ahead, Alison, Okay. So
• 46:44
  they're making some assumptions in here. They're saying, we believe that these findings
• 46:47
  generally. This is the two thousand and nine paper, right. We believe
• 46:51
  these findings applied generally because the increased risk of partner benment when the woman is
• 46:57
  the affected partner remained consistent across the three diverse patient cohorts. We believe that
• 47:01
  these findings applied generally to patients with life altering medical illnesses. The twenty fifteen
• 47:07
  study found that they this is not true. Okay, this is not true.
• 47:13
  Now it might hold true for women who have heart disease. You have
• 47:17
  to look a little bit closer and see if that's an artifact of pea hacking
• 47:22
  or something genuine or genuine finding, or alternatively, if we did the same
• 47:25
  thing to the male cohort, if we wouldn't find that men's women don't stick
• 47:29
  around when men have testicular cancer or muscular sclerosis or anything. Right, we
• 47:35
  don't know if they did the same thing to the male group. So that's
• 47:38
  the You might as well just throw that out for now. So the twenty
• 47:44
  fifteen I assume was the next step in the two thousand and nine and they
• 47:49
  didn't find it. Okay, so this is not generalizable, and you can't
• 47:52
  from this study. You can't stay men leave women when they get sick.
• 48:00
  You just can't, right because the study, the uh, the people who
• 48:06
  did the study themselves said we think that this is generalizable. While they did
• 48:12
  the additional study and they found it isn't the end. Okay, that's where
• 48:16
  this should have stopped. But of course it doesn't. It just keeps going
• 48:22
  and I'm looking at uh. Okay, So the reasons why women were preferentially
• 48:30
  affected becomes more evident in the analysis of the primary brain tumor corehurt. So
• 48:35
  they had three cohorts. The primary brain tumor cohort was the one which saw
• 48:38
  the most divorces. There we found although marriage duration did not stiff significantly differ
• 48:45
  between affected men and women, it was very significantly different between those who remained
• 48:50
  married and those who separated. So, in other words, the ones who
• 48:53
  separated were the ones who had shorter relationships, and for whatever reason, the
• 49:00
  men were more likely to bounce out of the shorter relationship than the women.
• 49:06
  All right, combined with the gender disparity, therefore, we propose a model
• 49:10
  in which the incentive to remain in a relationship with a seriously ill spouse reflects
• 49:14
  a commitment of the healthy one to the relationship, and that this commitment occurs
• 49:17
  more rapidly in the woman. And then it goes on to say, some
• 49:22
  studies also hate men, so we'll cite them here. It doesn't say that,
• 49:28
  but that's essentially its motive for whatever it is bringing up at that point.
• 49:31
  Okay, so what again, is this the twenty fifteen study basically put
• 49:37
  the nail in the coffin on whether or not this is generalizable to critical illnesses
• 49:42
  overall. So this just looked at three which was brain tumor, muscular thleurosis,
• 49:52
  and general oncology, which I guess is just general cancer. Uh.
• 49:57
  Anyway, So I just looked at three cohorts one hundred, five hundred couples,
• 50:05
  and if it basically found that the people who broke up had shorter relationships,
• 50:10
  and in those shorter relationships, if the woman was the one who has
• 50:14
  got sick, it was more likely to break up in a short relationship.
• 50:17
  So if you have a really long relationship, like if you're a woman going
• 50:22
  in on like twenty years of a relationship, ten years of a relationship,
• 50:27
  it's unlikely that he's going to disappear if you get sick. So that's something
• 50:30
  to consider. Now, if this is true about this small subset which is
• 50:36
  not generalizable, like we if we look at this, is this is actually
• 50:40
  not an artifact of them screwing around with numbers, which is entirely possible since
• 50:45
  this hasn't been replicated. It wasn't replicated, literally, wasn't this finding was
• 50:49
  not replicated on a larger scale. But if we just look at that,
• 50:54
  then women are more likely to commit to seriously ill partners in short relationships,
• 51:02
  which I guess would explain your situation, Brian, if in case it is
• 51:07
  true. But consider cool let's consider two things we can look at that.
• 51:19
  Maybe it is more difficult for men to take on the caretaker role. Maybe
• 51:23
  if it's a short relationship, they're younger, they can't take the time off,
• 51:29
  and they can't off of their career because of the pressures on them.
• 51:32
  Maybe it is that men leave and women are more likely to commit. Does
• 51:37
  it matter? Like at the end of the day, if this is not
• 51:42
  doesn't have to be framed the way you Hannah Cox frame this. And again
• 51:45
  I'm saying this is not generalizable, guys, So you can't actually say that
• 51:49
  men are more likely to leave period because it failed to replicate in the twenty
• 51:54
  fifteen study. It just failed to replicate. So this is no, this
• 51:58
  is not no. But just by this, no, this is a new
• 52:05
  but just this you are find one credit for a violation of the verbal morality
• 52:10
  tech. But just going by this finding, how can we frame this?
• 52:17
  Okay, again, it's not you can't extrapolate it to the greater population.
• 52:23
  Women are more likely to commit to somebody who's seriously ill in a short term
• 52:30
  relationship than men. All Right, you could say, hey, maybe there's
• 52:36
  something about women's maternal instinct. Maybe there's something positive about women here. Hey,
• 52:40
  let's look at that. How did Hannah Cox frame this? Oh?
• 52:45
  Those men, yep, so bad. I'm worried. And and on top
• 52:49
  of that, she's like, I'm worried about getting married. Can you imagine
• 52:52
  being her boyfriend looking at that, like, oh, maybe it's a fiance.
• 52:55
  I think it's a fiance. Wouldn't he be a little bit like holy
• 52:59
  crap? Like, well, think about you know, I'm in it for
• 53:01
  the long haul. Otherwise I wouldn't have made the commitment. I mean you
• 53:06
  would assume so. Anyways, Yeah, and and think about the other feminists
• 53:09
  that we looked at recently. Who's that complete nut about nutjob, like just
• 53:15
  insane woman. And she uh, she's apparently married or something or maybe has
• 53:21
  a partner. Anyway, there's that guy that's with her, so who knows,
• 53:25
  but yeah, it's it's I don't know. Do they do they think
• 53:30
  about maybe the guys like we were talking about at the beginning, they're just
• 53:32
  like, yeah, I'm the one good guy. I'm the one good man.
• 53:36
  She she hate all other men. She can't get a better deal than
• 53:40
  me. I'm a one good man, good, one good man. You
• 53:44
  know, Like that's that's basically what they're thinking, as as their women say
• 53:47
  this crap. You know, like I said, men and women don't get
• 53:52
  away from each other. It's really difficult to separate misogyny and miss injury.
• 53:57
  That's the real I think the fighting line is when you realize that it's really
• 54:04
  difficult to separate misogyny and miss injury versus people who somehow think you can and
• 54:10
  somehow think that men and women get away from each other. Well, you
• 54:14
  don't. But regardless, one, this study cannot be extrapolated past the groups
• 54:25
  it studied. Two, when it was the findings didn't hold. Okay,
• 54:30
  so there's a no here, there's a no. But three, even if
• 54:36
  you went with this study, why emphasize the idea that men fail women when
• 54:42
  the real thing you should emphasize is that, for whatever reason, women stick
• 54:49
  by men more when there's a there's a I guess a caretaking situation. I
• 54:55
  mean, we can talk about women in the positive. It's possible. I
• 55:00
  mean, is that like gonna everybody's gonna melt down? Well, Hannah Cox,
• 55:02
  just you know, I'm melting. It says you're a heretic. Why
• 55:08
  does everything have to be men in the negative? Like if women are the
• 55:14
  positive, no, we have to look at men in the negative. And
• 55:17
  the other thing is that if we're gonna look at that, then let's ask
• 55:22
  ourselves, well, why are women doing this? And is there way we
• 55:25
  can support men in helping them be like that too, you know and being
• 55:31
  positive? Because I can imagine that you're a young guy, you got a
• 55:36
  really sick woman and you were expecting, who knows, to begin a life
• 55:40
  with her, and now you're facing a death that that could be really intimidating.
• 55:45
  And maybe there is an issue with a lack of learning how to manage
• 55:51
  emotions or caretake But here's the thing we don't know. And this wasn't replicated,
• 55:57
  but even if it was, let's just say this one. So let's
• 56:00
  say the twenty fifteen study did show that why are we looking at this like,
• 56:06
  oh my god, men are such a terrible, terrible, a terrible
• 56:13
  what is it? A terrible choice? For women. Why are we looking
• 56:15
  at that way instead of just looking at it in terms well, why did
• 56:20
  this happen? How can we ameliorate it? How can we help men through
• 56:23
  this situation if that's what's happening, And how can we say, well,
• 56:29
  look at this, Well, here's a good thing about women. They stick
• 56:31
  by their man when he gets sick, you know, like spin it in
• 56:36
  the positive. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, like yeah,
• 56:43
  I mean there's well yeah again, like I think there are ways to
• 56:45
  talk about this stuff rationally constructive. What rationally? Yeah, yeah, but
• 56:55
  I think I don't know. I don't know. Should we play more?
• 57:00
  Yeah? Sure? How far do we get in? I mean two minutes?
• 57:04
  Oh? Good lord? Yeah, I know what. We don't have
• 57:07
  to do the whole thing today. No, So I gotta stop, well,
• 57:10
  I gotta I gotta stop at. I gotta stop in the next by
• 57:15
  the end of the next hour, the coming hour, fair, because I
• 57:19
  have to do a patron show and then I have to do a stream another
• 57:22
  stream after that, like on my the gaming chow on the streams. So
• 57:27
  yeah, I'm gonna be really tired. But it's okay. I mean,
• 57:30
  streaming isn't tiring, but sitting like and staring at a computer screen, my
• 57:32
  eyes get beat up from doing it. But anyway, let's play some more
• 57:37
  of this. So VARs or separation seems traumatizing enough, but I cannot fathom
• 57:44
  being told that you might die facing a terminal illness that might kill you and
• 57:47
  having your husband bounce like that is seriously sick. Not not it is?
• 57:53
  It is? It not? It doesn't It doesn't scale. It didn't scale
• 57:58
  like this did. Finding didn't scale twenty fifteen, Finding about knew. Yeah,
• 58:04
  that's it. It's a finding did not scale. Friend. They may
• 58:10
  may or may not have found it in these subgroups, but when they looked
• 58:15
  at a larger population and more types of illness, they did not find this.
• 58:21
  They did not find it. They did not find it. Men did
• 58:24
  not leave Let it go. I think I'm repeating that quite a bit.
• 58:30
  Yeah, I think that's going to be the thrust of this whole stream.
• 58:35
  Let's play some more. I can't stop thinking about how the divorce freight for
• 58:38
  me and leaving their sick wives is so high that the nurses are taught to
• 58:43
  warn women patients when they get diagnosed with a series in this are you because
• 58:47
  don't get any and didn't marry a partner. But a housekeeper, a child
• 58:52
  bearer, a nanny, a sick woman can't do those jobs anymore. So
• 58:55
  the men just lead. They actually feel entitled to this. Those findings did
• 59:01
  not scale. They did they did not replicate they have go done. They
• 59:08
  did not replicate. Yeah, but okay, So here's the thing I think
• 59:13
  that is interesting about this. I think that women generally, and I know
• 59:17
  people are gonna hate this because I'm about to make a generalization, but I
• 59:22
  think there it's easy to propagandize them in this way. And I think that
• 59:28
  Hannah Cox either was affected by that or she is contributing to that because this
• 59:34
  stuff it comes out of feminism. And I think that feminism may have even
• 59:38
  biased the study to begin with. It could have been a mistake. But
• 59:42
  then like carrying it forward, you know, you can see how you know,
• 59:46
  you have to ask yourself, like why would you do this study to
• 59:49
  begin with? Sometimes people are shitty to each other and that shouldn't be a
• 59:53
  gendered issue, but there, but you see, feminism wants to gender everything.
• 59:58
  So now we have to un tangle the messes they make. But in
• 1:00:01
  the meantime, while we're doing that, like women are affected by this stuff.
• 1:00:07
  They see it and they're like, well, why would I get married
• 1:00:08
  to a man? Why would I spend the time and effort, you know,
• 1:00:13
  And it's just gonna I mean, I can I can show you at
• 1:00:17
  the end. I have another video that I thought we would look at that
• 1:00:22
  shows you what I think is something that is like, it's a truth that
• 1:00:29
  very few people are willing to face. And when I say very few,
• 1:00:31
  I mean like really few people are willing to face about what women think about
• 1:00:37
  men in general and what men think about women in general. We'll get to
• 1:00:40
  that at the end. But I think it is a truth, and I
• 1:00:45
  have a lot of what's the word I would say, evidence, not proof
• 1:00:50
  because we can't prove this, but evidence that I think would you know,
• 1:00:54
  demonstrate that. But anyway, you want me to play more of this or
• 1:00:58
  do you want to say something to this? The findings in this what did
• 1:01:04
  they say? They said? The following I'll repeat it. Because of the
• 1:01:14
  increased risk of partner abandonment when the woman is the affective partner remained consistent across
• 1:01:17
  the three diverse patient cohorts. We believe that these findings applied generally, Well,
• 1:01:22
  you can believe anything you want. With two patients with life altering medical
• 1:01:24
  illnesses, you can believe whatever they want. They did the study in twenty
• 1:01:29
  fifteen, and they did not find this. It's all fake news. It's
• 1:01:35
  phony stuff. It didn't happen. So they did not find this, Sam,
• 1:01:40
  I am. They just didn't. Yep. But yet you're still going
• 1:01:45
  on about the two thousand and nine study. Okay, So they made a
• 1:01:51
  prediction and that prediction proved to be false. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:01:57
  All right. I've heard me and Mary thirty years tall their wives. I
• 1:02:01
  didn't sign up for this. People have no idea how common this is,
• 1:02:05
  especially with cancer patience. They because even the original study didn't find that.
• 1:02:12
  Okay, if you haven't. They found it in short, shorter term relationships,
• 1:02:22
  So long term relationships, they did not find this, okay, or
• 1:02:27
  there was a much much slower, much lesser effect. And again, what
• 1:02:32
  this finding did not replicate, It did not scale. Okay, it just
• 1:02:42
  didn't. You are pushing a falsehood, okay, or more, Yes,
• 1:02:51
  this is his dating profile I found. I'm fighting for my life and he's
• 1:02:53
  out getting laid and I just want to point out how unusual this is as
• 1:02:58
  well, because in normal circumstance, it says men are very unlikely to actually
• 1:03:01
  go file the papers for divorce. In fact, only about twenty nine to
• 1:03:05
  thirty percent of husbands file for divorce and normal circumstances. So then women file
• 1:03:12
  for divorce how frequently? Yeah? And for what? Yeah? I mean,
• 1:03:17
  it's it's again. I'm not trying to like blackpill Anyboddy, I'm but
• 1:03:22
  I think that you guys should be, you know, prepared for these realities.
• 1:03:28
  Like when she says men initiate a less significant portion of divorces, about
• 1:03:32
  twenty nine to thirty percent of husband's file for divorce. You know what that
• 1:03:36
  means, right, That means that seventy to seventy one percent of women file.
• 1:03:40
  So that means that women are way more likely to file when a divorce
• 1:03:45
  occurs. I'm not saying that there's a seventy percent chance you're going to get
• 1:03:47
  divorced, but when a divorce occurs, the woman initiates seventy percent of the
• 1:03:52
  time. It was actually a really interesting video that I don't know if you
• 1:03:57
  saw it. I think it was on Twitter of a divorce lawyer talking about
• 1:04:02
  how frequently he courses women to get divorced, Like how he basically like because
• 1:04:09
  he's trying to find work, so he coerces women into getting divorces from their
• 1:04:13
  husbands. He like gets in their head and makes them afraid and insecure and
• 1:04:20
  and you know, feeling like she wants to leave him. Just something I
• 1:04:27
  thought I would say. I got to find it, so don't hold me
• 1:04:30
  to this. I gotta find the original. It was a video. It
• 1:04:32
  was like a clip from from a longer video I assume, like a live
• 1:04:36
  stream or something with a divorce lawyer. And he was talking to a woman
• 1:04:44
  who was talking about like the divorce courts and how you know, if the
• 1:04:47
  women act first and they act fast, and they're more likely to get more
• 1:04:50
  out of it and so on. So it all comes down to, like,
• 1:04:54
  you know, how do you win at the divorce, Like it turns
• 1:04:58
  to a competition. And of course nothing about like what it does to the
• 1:05:00
  kids, but it does to the to the to the couple, what does
• 1:05:04
  to their family, et cetera. Oh, anyway, let's keep going here.
• 1:05:12
  And I do want to be clear here because this is a statistic.
• 1:05:15
  The red pill community loves to toss around. They're like, eighty percent of
• 1:05:17
  women file for divorces. You get married, she's just gonna take all your
• 1:05:20
  money and run and never do anything wrong. And then their women's ups and
• 1:05:24
  leaves them at foll for divorced. Like, no, that's not what happens.
• 1:05:27
  I am one hundred percent sure that's not what's happening. I do.
• 1:05:31
  Oh so, but let's see if she has any studies. The predominant reason,
• 1:05:35
  apparently the causal factor is unemployment around the world. I think one of
• 1:05:41
  the things that women say when loses his job, Yeah, the irreconcilable differences.
• 1:05:45
  It's economic, Yeah yeah, but they what they cite is irreconcilable differences,
• 1:05:51
  at least in the West. So what we what we know is that
• 1:05:56
  the reason why the relationship ends is irreconcilable differences, which some have translated to
• 1:06:00
  she got bored and also which I don't know, maybe maybe they're genuinely irreconcilable
• 1:06:09
  differences or well, I'd like to know what her counter argument to that is,
• 1:06:15
  because I again I'm saying that I don't think any red pill bros.
• 1:06:21
  Are saying that women are like you are seventy percent likely to get divorced.
• 1:06:28
  What they're saying is is that when a divorce occurs, women are seventy percent
• 1:06:34
  of the of those who initiate, who start the process, who ask for
• 1:06:39
  a divorce, and irreconcilable differences. But I think, yeah, I reconcilable
• 1:06:44
  difference lesbian couples. The biggest reason is domestic violence. Apparently, yes,
• 1:06:51
  that's not actually find the study on that, so don't. If you have
• 1:06:55
  the study, please put it in the in the comments and or send it
• 1:06:59
  to est. But that is what I've heard. And but let's let's continue,
• 1:07:03
  all right. I think women are more likely to file for divorce because
• 1:07:06
  women are more likely to handle the paperwork, period, and they are more
• 1:07:10
  likely to take action when they're unhappy and work to fix their own lives.
• 1:07:14
  Just because the woman goes in files doesn't mean she's the one that ruined the
• 1:07:16
  marriage or created the disfavorable circumstances. Well yeah, and also does it mean
• 1:07:20
  see it isn't it's because he lost his job, Let's be honest. Well,
• 1:07:27
  yeah, I mean if a woman is more likely to act, that's
• 1:07:30
  literally the definition of initiating. So does that mean that the men want a
• 1:07:36
  divorce, but they're just too lazy to start the process. Or is it
• 1:07:42
  because the men want to like work it out no idea, or or maybe
• 1:07:45
  there's like a woman is experiencing a crisis, you know, in the marriage
• 1:07:51
  of the man is not even aware of and he's just like going about his
• 1:07:56
  day, like bringing home the vacant and paying all the bills and keeping everything
• 1:08:00
  running. And the woman is like, oh my god, I can't.
• 1:08:02
  I can't do this anymore. Like I don't know, like it's not concrete,
• 1:08:10
  you know. I think if women are more likely to initiate, then
• 1:08:15
  it sounds like women are more likely to just be dissatisfied. But that doesn't
• 1:08:18
  mean the men are not satisfactory. Because women are more likely to experience negative
• 1:08:24
  emotions, They're more likely to worry about crap that isn't important. They're more
• 1:08:29
  I mean they are like I have to tell Lindsay all the time, you
• 1:08:30
  know, she freaks out about stuff, and I'm like, dude, Like
• 1:08:33
  I'm driving the car right and she hears a funny noise coming out of the
• 1:08:36
  car when I hit the brakes, and she was like, we got to
• 1:08:39
  do something about I was like dude, the car's not gonna explode, you
• 1:08:44
  know, Like I mean, you need is somebody to say, look,
• 1:08:48
  we're not gonna worry about this until there's something to worry about. And you
• 1:08:53
  know, I'm I mean the cars from two thousand and eight, Like it's
• 1:08:56
  gonna make funny noises, but it's not gonna It's not a bomb, isn't
• 1:09:00
  casino? You know? Like but but you know, but I'm saying,
• 1:09:03
  like this is this is not a bad thing because Lindsay's what is it?
• 1:09:11
  What's the word I want? She's just risk assessment. Uh yeah, I
• 1:09:15
  mean like sensitivity. She's just yeah, she's just really like anxious about everything.
• 1:09:20
  Right. But but like I her her borderline paranoia about everything is a
• 1:09:29
  benefit because I'm the kind of person that might like be too chill, right
• 1:09:34
  because something important could be happening, like you know, and I'm just like,
• 1:09:39
  nah, I don't worry about it, and it could be like a
• 1:09:40
  fire in the kitchen. But but we need to balance each other out,
• 1:09:44
  right. So she's a worry Yeah, she's a worry ward. But there's
• 1:09:48
  another word. I can't For some reason, I'm like losing it right now,
• 1:09:54
  you know, No, I don't have a Pinto. It's a it's
• 1:09:56
  a Hyundai, a Lantra two thousand and eight. But and it's fine,
• 1:10:00
  Like it's it's really been quite reliable. Hyundais are not bad cars, to
• 1:10:04
  be honest. But you know, I mean, Lindsay's like she's always looking
• 1:10:10
  for the flaws and that's a good thing. But but you have to keep
• 1:10:14
  it in check, right because it's handy to know when there's flaws, you
• 1:10:17
  know, But I don't know, Like, but but if it's I think
• 1:10:21
  if it if it's what I'm saying is it could lead to women making like
• 1:10:26
  drastic changes that might be like more detrimental, like ye, valuable differences could
• 1:10:33
  just be a negative flaw spirral and yeah, it's never arrested and and the
• 1:10:42
  like. The issue is that women do get into this space where they literally
• 1:10:49
  see their abilities in terms of a man. It's bizarre, but it's like,
• 1:10:55
  I can't do this, you know, a man has to do this
• 1:10:57
  for me. They don't. They don't actually cultivate true independence, like they
• 1:11:03
  project their emotions onto men and say, well, you got to fix these
• 1:11:08
  things, and sometimes men can't. Sometimes this is something that I even see
• 1:11:13
  with the red pill brows. It's like the red pill guys are essentially trying
• 1:11:18
  to train men to get nothing out of a relationship emotionally and jump through continuous
• 1:11:26
  emotional hoops. Right, And at some point I have to ask, well,
• 1:11:31
  what the hell are you getting out of the relationships? Yeah, what's
• 1:11:33
  the point. The thing is that, in my experience, our relationship,
• 1:11:39
  the strength of relationship often comes down to how rational the woman can be.
• 1:11:45
  Does that make sense? Mm hmm, Like she doesn't. Necessarily, she
• 1:11:49
  can still be getting into these negative thought spirals. She can still get stressed,
• 1:11:54
  she can still worry, she can still fret, she can still want
• 1:11:57
  her husband to come home with flowers when she's had a bad day, all
• 1:12:00
  of that kind of stuff. But as long as she's aware to some degree
• 1:12:03
  of what she's doing and can engage on a rational level with it, that
• 1:12:10
  seems to be the predictor of a relationship, whether or not. Yeah,
• 1:12:14
  I mean, and a desire to like work it out, because I think
• 1:12:16
  that like we do kind of treat marriage as something I don't know, more
• 1:12:21
  trivial than it, you be, yes, Like you know, so we
• 1:12:27
  we it's almost like dating with with legal papers, you know, for some
• 1:12:30
  people, and it's like this. I think that's part of the reason why
• 1:12:33
  divorce rates are really high. I think it's because the commitment isn't taken seriously.
• 1:12:40
  It's an achievement unlocked. It's it's it's not a change in life,
• 1:12:45
  but an achievement unlocked for a lot of women's. Yeah, it's a silver
• 1:12:47
  trophy. Let's try to get this done, all right, Let's play some
• 1:12:53
  more lays through it in that she hasn't done significant work to try to fix
• 1:12:56
  the scenario first. My main point bringing this up though, is that through
• 1:13:00
  out the courses of their marriage, men will cheat on their wives. They
• 1:13:02
  will flirt with other women, they will be absolutely miserable, they will complain
• 1:13:06
  about their wives to anybody who will listen. But they will not go file
• 1:13:11
  for divorce. They are far more likely to stay in unhappy marriages until the
• 1:13:15
  woman becomes terminally ill. Okay, are men likely to do all those things?
• 1:13:21
  What kind of men are? You're really not more likely than women?
• 1:13:25
  Now? Like we have the apparently women are now cheating as much of men,
• 1:13:30
  if not more, or maybe they always were. We didn't have the
• 1:13:33
  data, and we didn't have the data because they still felt embarrassed about it.
• 1:13:39
  But who knows, She's she's making a lot of assumptions, right,
• 1:13:44
  Men are all just one thing, well, and she probably wouldn't like that
• 1:13:47
  reverse about women. Even though I think we can make these assumptions, I
• 1:13:51
  don't think we can make these necessarily assumption, these negative assumptions. But okay,
• 1:13:58
  so she says, and us the woman gets terminally ill. First of
• 1:14:00
  all, the finding didn't scale, So no, okay, no, no,
• 1:14:08
  there's there's no point discussing this because that is a no, Hannah,
• 1:14:13
  that wasn't found when they did a larger survey of more illnesses, they did
• 1:14:19
  not find that they did not, So this is wrong. There's no point,
• 1:14:27
  there's no point following this conclusion any further. This is wrong. This
• 1:14:31
  is the end. There's that. There's nothing else you can say about it.
• 1:14:33
  That's what's gonna be interesting about the rest of this this video. So
• 1:14:39
  she's painting this picture in order to construct dissatisfaction with relationships in women and to
• 1:14:45
  like under sell or turn men into a bad investment for a woman. And
• 1:14:54
  again, like she's gonna get lots more attention for this than we will because
• 1:14:59
  we're correcting the rec but that's what she's doing. And again she she doesn't
• 1:15:04
  have a basis to do it because they didn't find this when they when they
• 1:15:09
  expanded the scope, it didn't scale, so the finding is invalid. All
• 1:15:15
  right, let's keep going. Brah. I just can't wrap my mind around
• 1:15:19
  this. You might be sitting there thinking, Hannah, you seem to be
• 1:15:23
  in good health, and also you're not married, So what brought this up
• 1:15:27
  for you? And I'm so glad you asked, because there was actually a
• 1:15:30
  story that first put this on my radar a few years ago. Prepare yourselves
• 1:15:35
  story. All right, I'm just pausing for the Well, I'd sent you
• 1:15:40
  a couple of stories. Uh so she had one. Yeah, well,
• 1:15:45
  let's hear her. Let's hear her anecdote. Okay, okay, I have
• 1:15:51
  to tell you about is a b Smith who was a beloved entrepreneur and model
• 1:15:56
  and who was unfortunately diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's is about a decade ago,
• 1:16:00
  and for some reason, after her diagnosis and eventual decline, her husband,
• 1:16:05
  who she had been married to for nearly thirty years, decided it was appropriate
• 1:16:10
  to move on and announce his new girlfriend to the public and Not only that,
• 1:16:15
  but he also announced that his new girlfriend was staying in the home with
• 1:16:18
  him and b Smith, Like they were all hanging out and B Smith was
• 1:16:21
  just over there with Alzheimer's had no clue what was going on. Can you
• 1:16:25
  imagine? I don't wait. You know that Alzheimer's progresses slowly, right,
• 1:16:31
  or can progress slowly? So how how bad was it when this was decided?
• 1:16:40
  Because are they polyamorous? Was she part of the Yeah? Was she
• 1:16:45
  part of the decision? Like, here's the thing. I had an uncle
• 1:16:48
  who had a severe long term illness. He had MS. It took and
• 1:16:55
  it affects the mind and it but it also affects the body. And it
• 1:16:59
  took a long time for him to die. I think about fifteen years,
• 1:17:03
  and in that time his wife had boyfriends. I know, this is gonna
• 1:17:09
  blow your bloody mind, Hannah, but sometimes people make these choices and they
• 1:17:15
  decide like he, I've been pretty sure he decided to let her do that.
• 1:17:19
  She still stayed by him. I know there's probably red pill bros.
• 1:17:24
  Who are freaking the fuck out about this. She stayed by him. I
• 1:17:28
  mean this happened to her when she was in her thirties, and immediately plunged
• 1:17:31
  into celibacy. That's hard to deal with, right, immediately plunged into celibacy.
• 1:17:39
  But they may have had a discussion privately amongst themselves that, you know,
• 1:17:45
  the rest of the rest of the family didn't need to be party to
• 1:17:48
  that. She he let her do that, and she stayed with him like
• 1:17:53
  she was. She visited him, you know, like multiple times a week
• 1:17:58
  until he passed. Okay, so she never abandoned him. But at the
• 1:18:02
  same time, is she still had physical needs and she but she still wanted
• 1:18:10
  to be there with him, and they I believe that they made that kind
• 1:18:15
  of adult arrangement and they just said, Okay, this is the situation that
• 1:18:20
  happens Hannah. That could have been the same thing that happened here. It's
• 1:18:25
  not really any of your business. It's not really any of the media's business,
• 1:18:29
  to be honest. Of course they their business. But is it possible
• 1:18:33
  that that's what happened here? Is it possible? I mean, certainly is
• 1:18:43
  you don't know is he is Is he still taking care of her? It
• 1:18:46
  sounds like it and maybe it is a little weird, but you don't you
• 1:18:54
  is it that or is it this like who knows life is hard and you
• 1:19:00
  make accommodations. Okay, you know this is what's so annoying. You watch
• 1:19:05
  all these young people beak off about these kinds of judgments, and it's like,
• 1:19:12
  you don't have a freaking clue what life has in store for you,
• 1:19:15
  Sonny or whatever we're gonna call her, Bonnie whatever, Hannah. You don't
• 1:19:23
  know what life has been sore for you, and you don't know what will
• 1:19:27
  happen when you get there. All right, And that's all I have to
• 1:19:30
  say about that. All right, listen, more don't know what I have
• 1:19:35
  to put in my will to ensure this doesn't happen to me. But I
• 1:19:41
  was horrified by this story. I'm still horrified by it. This was covered
• 1:19:45
  at the time by Essence magazine, and during the interview, Gasby her husband
• 1:19:48
  explained that he had zero guilt for sharing his new relationship with Alex Lerner,
• 1:19:53
  who had a room in the couple's house. If this is us and modern
• 1:19:56
  family came together, it would be us, Gasby told the Post. Gaspy
• 1:20:00
  told a reporter that he's told his wife he's a girlfriend, but isn't sure
• 1:20:02
  that has registered. You know, I've been married for twenty six years.
• 1:20:08
  I've been with Be twenty seven and a half years. Alison and I are
• 1:20:12
  now going on a year and a half being together. I believe in the
• 1:20:15
  sanctity of marriage, but I don't believe death do you part means that because
• 1:20:23
  you've made a commitment, if the person is not there, that you should
• 1:20:30
  sit there and watch your life shrivel up. And that's why I am where
• 1:20:35
  I am today, taking care of being and having someone else in my life.
• 1:20:40
  According to be Smith thing, I mean, it's not what I would
• 1:20:45
  do, you know, it's not what I would do. But what is
• 1:20:51
  this woman did the same thing that she is doing to Be? He's doing
• 1:20:55
  the b Smiths She would be crucified. Okay maybe, but like I said,
• 1:21:00
  my uncle his wife, you know, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
• 1:21:04
  Would she would she be crucifying by who? By who is a crucifier?
• 1:21:11
  Honestly, I think that's between her and him, and there there may
• 1:21:16
  have been a conversation. There's a difference between flirting bet flirting with someone in
• 1:21:21
  front of you and then you having the conversation. I have this critical illness.
• 1:21:25
  This is what I want. I don't want you to necessarily your life
• 1:21:29
  to be over. I want you to see other people. I want you
• 1:21:30
  to find happiness. I want you to be with someone who gives you what
• 1:21:34
  I can't give you now, right, there could have been that conversation.
• 1:21:38
  We don't know, and honestly, this is we we have an anecdote of
• 1:21:46
  our own. Yes, I have an anecdote of my own, So we
• 1:21:50
  could look at the anecdote and well, let's let's listen to more of this
• 1:21:55
  and then we'll put that up. Yeah. I mean, if we're going
• 1:21:58
  to be doing anecdotes and not data, because the data doesn't doesn't add up.
• 1:22:01
  Trial by anecdote, Yeah, yeah, trial by anecdote. Fans,
• 1:22:08
  she by no means would have been okay with this. In fact, she
• 1:22:11
  seems to have been pretty territorial and jealous during her cognitive lifespan. When Fan
• 1:22:15
  noted b Smith wouldn't be okay with it, he detailed it in their book
• 1:22:18
  that she slapped him in the middle of their restaurant because he flirted with the
• 1:22:21
  customer in front of her face when he thought she didn't remember. I think
• 1:22:25
  it's perfectly valid in a healthy relationship to discuss what you might do if the
• 1:22:30
  other person were to pass. Some people feel very strongly about wanting their partner
• 1:22:33
  to be able to move on and still be happy and not be alone after
• 1:22:38
  their death, and others very much do not want that person to move on
• 1:22:41
  without them. But I don't think it should be an argument whether or not
• 1:22:44
  it's ethical to do that while your partner is still alive till death. Do
• 1:22:47
  us part does not mean that you can bring a third person into the marriage
• 1:22:53
  without consent and still be keeping your vowels and honestly, while this is pure,
• 1:22:57
  But here's the thing. If she's deteriorated to the point where she's incapable
• 1:23:04
  of consent or not consent, he could just divorce her. It's a one
• 1:23:09
  party system, like all she has. All he has to do is divorce
• 1:23:14
  her. Is that the acceptable alternative? Divorcer and put her in a home.
• 1:23:23
  Yeah. The fact that she continues to take care of her says something.
• 1:23:29
  It might be weird for you, Hannah, but your child to be
• 1:23:32
  quite frank, all right, let's let's finish this freaking anecdote opinion. A
• 1:23:40
  big part of me wonders if men tend to do this because they never plan
• 1:23:44
  to be the spouse. It. Part of me wonders if men do this
• 1:23:46
  because they just don't understand what it is to be human like women do.
• 1:23:53
  Good Lord, you're giving me the ick, all right, yeah, I
• 1:24:01
  mean it's a it's a weird. It's kind of a stretch to start suggesting
• 1:24:09
  or implying that there's something about the nature of men that they would just be
• 1:24:15
  disloyaled in this way, like they don't believe in commitment. This seems to
• 1:24:19
  be what she's suggesting. Mint kitties. Okay, let's keep going, let's
• 1:24:27
  finish this. And that's because men are still much more likely to die before
• 1:24:30
  women. That's just my hypothesis, of course. But if you look at
• 1:24:33
  the data around what men do after their partner dies, if they stick around
• 1:24:39
  for that, I think it back. Okay, stop you snided, little
• 1:24:45
  shit. It did not scale. This is false. This is misinformation.
• 1:24:54
  It was not found the end. Don't keep put shing it. And she
• 1:25:02
  now she's gonna bring up the widow thing. Let's see, far more likely
• 1:25:09
  to remarry within a two year time span after a partner dies. By twenty
• 1:25:13
  five months after the spouse's death, sixty one percent of men and only nineteen
• 1:25:17
  percent of women were either remarried or involved in a new romance. Women express
• 1:25:21
  far more negative feelings about forming new romantic relationships. Okay, here's another interesting
• 1:25:29
  statistic. Widowers are unlikely to live ten years after their their wife dies.
• 1:25:38
  Women don't die after after losing their partner, but men very commonly do.
• 1:25:48
  They rarely last ten years, and if they do last ten years, it's
• 1:25:53
  probably because they have found another woman. So for men, it's either find
• 1:25:58
  another woman or die. For women, it's like, uh, find another
• 1:26:01
  man if I really want want to, But you know, men suck,
• 1:26:05
  so why would I or just enjoy my life as a widow? Like there
• 1:26:10
  was one of Jonathan's grandparents grandmothers. When the grandfather died, she was like
• 1:26:16
  like a rat out of an aqueduct, all kinds of cruises and and going
• 1:26:23
  to there and there and everywhere. She was living the life after he died.
• 1:26:30
  Yeah, okay, we want to we want to compare this. If
• 1:26:35
  that bag sis exactly and I mean even fine for her, fine for her,
• 1:26:43
  Like maybe they didn't have a very close relationship and she finally got to
• 1:26:45
  do the things that she wanted to do. But honestly, if we're going
• 1:26:49
  to compare anecdotes. I'm sure plenty of people have anecdotes of grandma's who you
• 1:26:57
  know, grandpa dies and then suddenly they're living their live in a large and
• 1:27:01
  also if Grandma dies, grandpa dies within ten years unless he gets another woman.
• 1:27:09
  Because for them, for men, it's not living it large like it's
• 1:27:14
  men have this sort of emotional dependency on women. I'm gonna be honest,
• 1:27:18
  Hopefully nobody will freak out and if it seems to them like they don't know
• 1:27:25
  how to live large like women do without a woman, they don't know how
• 1:27:30
  to enjoy their lives without a woman. It's really unfortunate. I wish men
• 1:27:33
  could learn that skill, but I could. If I could ask for anything,
• 1:27:38
  it would be that, like learn how to thrive without a woman.
• 1:27:44
  But I think men struggle with that, which is why they either get it
• 1:27:48
  with another woman after the wife dies or they die. Yeah, they struggle
• 1:27:54
  to be alone. Right, that's the part that Hannah Cox is not presenting
• 1:27:59
  her Like what's the rate of death? Okay, yeah, end's wife's die.
• 1:28:09
  They always remarry when oh it's this woman, it's this woman. Wow,
• 1:28:15
  Holy crap, I didn't know that like, so, okay, we
• 1:28:19
  this woman. We covered one of her videos and I didn't know that her
• 1:28:25
  and Hannah Cox apparently traveled in the same circles. That explains everything it really
• 1:28:30
  does or show. All right, well, let's let's listen to This woman
• 1:28:38
  is absolutely bonker evil. I'm just gonna say evil because she really doesn't have
• 1:28:45
  a problem crapping on men every opportunity. I they never knew. Hi.
• 1:28:50
  My name is Cayla. I'm a funeral director on this page, and we
• 1:28:54
  often discuss things we don't learn in mortuary school and my mortuary schools gets and
• 1:28:58
  she's spot all one I have led or been a part of, like at
• 1:29:01
  least a few hundred funerals at this point. And something I've always noticed one
• 1:29:05
  that's the death of an elderly person. If it's an elderly man who has
• 1:29:10
  just lost his wife, you know, the woman who's taken care of him
• 1:29:13
  the past forty to fifty sixty plus years, allegedly, you always see them
• 1:29:15
  at their funerals going, I don't know what I'm gonna do, how am
• 1:29:18
  I gonna live? How will I move on? Who's gonna take care of
• 1:29:21
  me? And fair they have just lost their spouse. But then when an
• 1:29:26
  elderly man dies and his wife starts commenting on their life together, she never
• 1:29:33
  once worries about how she's going to be taking care of herself. Well,
• 1:29:38
  she's got them for her life insurance, and she knows where all the secret
• 1:29:41
  kids are and she don't got to deal with none of that, no more
• 1:29:44
  more than six what so what does that? What does that say? Right?
• 1:29:48
  What? What's what circles does this woman travel in? That there are
• 1:29:54
  secret kids? It's like and also, how is this true? This is
• 1:30:00
  like triumphalism. Yeah, women win because widows just aren't beraved. They're just
• 1:30:04
  kicking their heels up. They leave the funeral and they're just doing a jake.
• 1:30:09
  I got rid of the baggage. He's gone, he's in the ground.
• 1:30:13
  Yay, my life is started. Like is that they're going to the
• 1:30:16
  club. Hey, if you can't go to Bellinoce, then where the hell
• 1:30:20
  can you go? Hipertooth on the prowl, you know, like what the
• 1:30:25
  fuck? Okay, all right, you got I guess you win. Except
• 1:30:29
  also, Hannah Cox is saying women win because they are loyal, but this
• 1:30:33
  woman is saying women win because you know, they roll them, they put
• 1:30:38
  they kicked the man into the grave. It just sort of falls in PLoP
• 1:30:42
  and she's like, yeah, that's done, got rid of the trash.
• 1:30:45
  Life begins. Which one? Which is it? Which is winning here?
• 1:30:49
  Is it winning because the woman just doesn't give a crap that her partner of
• 1:30:56
  sixty years just kicked the bucket? Or is it winning because women men are
• 1:31:00
  loyal and they do? You see that? Like there's sort of a contradiction
• 1:31:04
  here. I guess heads you win, tails, you win. Yeah,
• 1:31:11
  women don't give a fuck about their heads. I win tails, you lose.
• 1:31:15
  Yeah. If women don't give a fuck about their partners, they're happy
• 1:31:17
  to just kick them into the grave and then do a jig as they run
• 1:31:20
  off onto the cruise ship to go fuck some pool boys. You know,
• 1:31:25
  that's that's winning. But it's also winning because they you get to moralize over
• 1:31:29
  how more loyal you are, like, choose one at least, like be
• 1:31:32
  consistent to some level. Okay, all right, playing some more and you
• 1:31:38
  don't got an able none of that. No. More more than sixty percent
• 1:31:41
  of men remarry within two years of the depth of your wife. I know
• 1:31:45
  this is anecdotal, how many die, Hannah, how many die? I'm
• 1:31:51
  gonna look that up. You know, if I died and my wife remarried,
• 1:31:59
  I wouldn't care because I'd be dead, like, you know, wouldn't
• 1:32:04
  exactly be high on my list. And why would I want her? Like?
• 1:32:09
  Why would I be dying and saying you better not like, you know,
• 1:32:12
  move on ever, you better just stay lonely and sad and constantly visit
• 1:32:17
  my grave, Like why would I do that? I'm not that selfish,
• 1:32:21
  that's I mean, I don't know I would. I would never do that.
• 1:32:26
  If I die tomorrow, I expect Lindsay to do whatever she has to
• 1:32:30
  do to move on. And that's okay. I wouldn't be upset because I'd
• 1:32:35
  be dead, all right. What did you did? You want to look
• 1:32:40
  something up? Is that what you said? Okay, I'm gonna play more
• 1:32:45
  of the video then, because you're muted or something, all right, your
• 1:32:49
  mute looking up? I was looking up the information about men losing a spouse.
• 1:32:56
  Losing a spouse makes men seventy percent more likely to die within a year.
• 1:33:00
  Boom, Okay, yeah, while women were twenty seven percent more likely
• 1:33:06
  to die compared to women who did not become widowed. So this is the
• 1:33:13
  statistic she's not saying, Yeah, men are more likely to get married if
• 1:33:17
  they don't die, like say, yeah, they don't die likely to die.
• 1:33:23
  A woman is only twenty seven percent more likely to die. If we
• 1:33:26
  are going to engage in these stupid competitions, because this is what's really freaking
• 1:33:33
  annoying. This nobody wins here, No, nobody's winning like this is okay,
• 1:33:45
  let's keep going. All right, let's play some more First. I've
• 1:33:47
  always known a lot of old people, and I've seen this play out in
• 1:33:51
  the churches. Women when their husband dies are far more likely to stay single,
• 1:33:56
  and most of them are still very self sufficient, very active, and
• 1:33:59
  very social. On the other hand, and they're more likely to live.
• 1:34:04
  Yeah, there's that part. And they're taken care of. They got the
• 1:34:09
  life insurance and the bank accounts. So yeah, what are you suggesting,
• 1:34:14
  Hannah Cox, that that women invest in men so that if the women die,
• 1:34:19
  the men are taken care of. You're going to have to convince women
• 1:34:23
  to do that. I don't think that's going to work out. Almost immediately
• 1:34:28
  remarried. Maybe that's because they're fewer men to remarry in this population. Because
• 1:34:32
  again, men are more likely to die sooner, so as you women have
• 1:34:36
  much it's not even more likely to die sooner, Hannah. It's more likely
• 1:34:42
  to die after being widowed or becoming a widower. Right, so, no,
• 1:34:46
  but they die earlier than women, and they die soon after their spouses
• 1:34:51
  die. Yes, so it goes both aways. We're likely to die within
• 1:34:56
  the year after Okay, and that's compared to twenty seven percent for women.
• 1:35:00
  If we want to do this whole, let's uh, let's do a competition
• 1:35:03
  here, all right, let's keep going good, all right? But I
• 1:35:08
  think there's something more to it, because if you talk too many of these
• 1:35:11
  people, they will tell you they have no desire to remarry. Would you,
• 1:35:16
  if something happened to your husband, get remarried to another man? I
• 1:35:23
  have a wonderful husband. He is amazing. I am not bullshitting, I'm
• 1:35:28
  not I'm not kidding. I love him, he is my best friend.
• 1:35:31
  He treats me very well, He's wonderful. But if something happened to him,
• 1:35:39
  I would not get remarried. Yes, because you don't. There have
• 1:35:44
  no sense of value that a man brings to a woman like That's that's what
• 1:35:46
  we've done in our society. We've basically brainwashed everyone to think that men are
• 1:35:50
  valueless in a relationship. Go ahead, yeah they yep. Maybe to a
• 1:35:57
  woman. I don't know. I'm not, but I think I got lucky.
• 1:36:02
  Most of them have? They had how long marriage for the man?
• 1:36:06
  Yeah you got lucky? Hmmm, maybe your husband got lucky. Considering maybe
• 1:36:15
  I feel like they lucked out and would never risk it again. And those
• 1:36:18
  who had a lessons dollar experience with their first husband are not eager to take
• 1:36:21
  another shot. So what are my conclusions from all this? One? You
• 1:36:26
  need to be very very careful who you marry. I don't know exactly how
• 1:36:30
  you venimate. Shocking statistic, just dropped insane advice. Are you guys ready
• 1:36:34
  for this? Be careful who you marry. I know it's crazy, I
• 1:36:40
  know, it's I know, it's a wild concept. I'm just I know,
• 1:36:45
  I know I'm saying, you know what, it's probably a little heretical
• 1:36:48
  to throw that. I'm just I'm just spitballing here. But if you're careful
• 1:36:55
  about who you marry, like you don't just marry anybody, but like somebody
• 1:37:00
  that you know, you know, you kind of know them and you know
• 1:37:02
  their family and all that, and you get along with each other and you
• 1:37:06
  know, you get to know them, and then maybe I don't I don't
• 1:37:11
  know. I don't know, throwing my hands up, just I maybe I
• 1:37:15
  should have done more knowing my wife before I married her. I mean we
• 1:37:19
  only had like a couple of years. But but I think, Hannah Cox,
• 1:37:25
  you might be onto something. You might be onto something. Maybe you
• 1:37:29
  should be careful were you married. It's a secret, don't tell anybody because
• 1:37:38
  if everybody figures it out, like she's been a good girl, all right,
• 1:37:44
  all right, I'm just I'm just messaging her. But it is fun
• 1:37:46
  with the big she can played with the big kid legos. Yeah, the
• 1:37:51
  man to make sure he wouldn't leave you if you were terminally ill. But
• 1:37:55
  I'm trying to come up with some kind of litmus test and I'll keep you
• 1:37:58
  posted because yeah, he's far too many crappy men out there for Wow.
• 1:38:01
  Can you imagine like if somebody threw that test at me, Like, say,
• 1:38:05
  I was playing the field and a girl was like she just like look
• 1:38:09
  so like we're sitting around watching Netflix. We've been dating for like six months,
• 1:38:15
  and she's like a babe, Can I ask you something? And I'm
• 1:38:17
  like, yeah, sure, what is it? Well, I just was
• 1:38:20
  wondering, like if I was terminally ill and then I died, would you
• 1:38:26
  move on? I'd be like, get out. This is a ridiculous question.
• 1:38:32
  I have no idea, no idea, like you know, like this
• 1:38:36
  is you, here's the thing. Good luck. We don't even need to
• 1:38:40
  entertain this anna because the finding didn't scale. Yeah, so no, it's
• 1:38:48
  just funny. I don't know. Yeah, I know, I know it's
• 1:38:50
  it is funny and just this is real advice given I'm just doing the autistic
• 1:38:55
  thing. I'm like, yeah, but actually how to Actually it did not
• 1:39:00
  scale? Okay, it did not always? I know, I know the
• 1:39:04
  litmus tests. She should. She should determine which horoscope sign is most likely
• 1:39:11
  lead to men moving on and be like, look, honey, if he's
• 1:39:15
  a Capricorn, get out of there, you know, like that's how it
• 1:39:17
  should be, literally Capricorn. If he's a Leo, it's time to roll.
• 1:39:23
  I mean, I don't I don't know the signs. I don't know
• 1:39:25
  them. Capricorns, I think are not really that great. I don't know.
• 1:39:31
  Let's let's keep going okay from my taste given the statistic, but moreover,
• 1:39:38
  looking at the entire landscape and the picture this presents, I think what
• 1:39:42
  it says is that men are actually the ones who are far more afraid of
• 1:39:45
  being alone, especially as they age. They're far less self sufficient than woman
• 1:39:49
  and really dependent on a woman should take care of them an older age.
• 1:39:53
  Well, yes, yes, I will say that she's right. Men appear
• 1:39:59
  to be more emotionally dependent on women. I'm like, looking through her,
• 1:40:03
  I'm still working. I am still working on her dating advice video or whatever
• 1:40:06
  the hell it was, the one on dark matter, whatever dark psychology she
• 1:40:13
  was responding to. And the deeper I get into it, the more psychotic
• 1:40:17
  it gets. And I'm making dark psychology, and I'm saying, what the
• 1:40:23
  hell are you counseling men to tolerate? You're like, ah, you gotta
• 1:40:27
  jump through the shit test hopes, and you gotta you gotta be a person
• 1:40:31
  who actually asks almost fucking nothing from women, like nothing nothing. I'm like,
• 1:40:36
  at what point, de men are like, you know what, this
• 1:40:41
  isn't worth it, because literally, dark psychology is counseling men to break themselves
• 1:40:47
  apart and rearrange themselves into the perfect skin to fit a woman like this,
• 1:40:54
  and to ask nothing from her, nothing, not ask her to at least
• 1:41:00
  be kind to your insecurities, to have a consideration for you, to not
• 1:41:06
  do the I drink male tears crap. No, absolutely nothing. So they're
• 1:41:12
  counseling men to get into relationships where they get fuck and all. And at
• 1:41:16
  the end when in six months, when it ends, you just have a
• 1:41:20
  woman shaped hole in your soul and you just keep carving more women shaped holes
• 1:41:26
  in your soul until you kill yourself. That's like, wow, this is
• 1:41:30
  really shitty advice for men. Honestly. Honestly, it's really shitty advice for
• 1:41:34
  men. But she doesn't seem to see that. She doesn't seem to see
• 1:41:39
  that this individual is actually trying to get men capable of living with women like
• 1:41:45
  her. And it requires, you know, it's just like you know how
• 1:41:50
  so she paths seem to manage war better. Yeah, it requires sort of
• 1:41:55
  changing your mentality in a very dark way. Okay, let's keep it.
• 1:42:02
  I just want to all right, there's a little less left in this so
• 1:42:05
  okay, that's probably why they go ahead and jump ship so quickly when somebody
• 1:42:10
  is diagnosed with the terminal illness, and it's certainly why they move on so
• 1:42:14
  quickly has died the community is yeah, don't want they do not move or
• 1:42:19
  that that did not feel it is false. It seems like they're I'm seeing
• 1:42:25
  more and more content coming out of places like this and parallel to this,
• 1:42:30
  or like sort of analogous to this, where they're they're building these kind of
• 1:42:39
  bad arguments around marriage and dating and such and putting a blame on men collectively
• 1:42:47
  using anecdotes and bad data, and it's it all seems to lead towards how
• 1:42:55
  do we criticize the red pill bros? As they call it, which by
• 1:42:59
  the way, is not really an accurate description. I think that what they're
• 1:43:03
  what they rose, but I don't understand why they're criticizing them anyway, because
• 1:43:09
  the red pill bros Are trying to get men into a mental state where they
• 1:43:11
  can handle this shit. Well, yeah, exactly. I think it's it's
• 1:43:15
  they're not even really PUA's like there's a there is a UA faction within it,
• 1:43:21
  but a lot of it is just guys trying to equip other guys,
• 1:43:25
  like, look, this is what you can expect right here are the legal
• 1:43:28
  issues here are the social issues here, the cultural issues, et cetera.
• 1:43:32
  And the men are like, you know, nobody's helping them. Many of
• 1:43:36
  them don't know their father, they don't have a model, and they're just
• 1:43:41
  sort of like scrambling. And I feel like, because I see it more
• 1:43:44
  and more and more, even people who initially make content that sounds like it's
• 1:43:48
  favorable towards men are or towards male issues are like doing this kind of you
• 1:43:55
  know, oopsie Daisy like bait and switch thing where it's like, oh,
• 1:44:00
  yeah, well, I'm I'm the libertarian feminist, and of course men are
• 1:44:03
  attracted libertarianism. And then she like twists it and says, and by the
• 1:44:08
  way, you know, patriarchy is real. It's the state or whatever it
• 1:44:11
  is. She thinks it is right. But I think she's about to say
• 1:44:15
  something about red pill guys right here. I could be wrong, though,
• 1:44:18
  When somebody is diagnosed with the terminal illness, and it's certainly why they move
• 1:44:23
  on so quickly once a partner has died. Red pill community is constently claiming
• 1:44:27
  that women hit the wall, and if women don't lower their standards and just
• 1:44:30
  settle that, they're going to end up alone with cats and women are I
• 1:44:33
  know, I see, I knew it. I knew it. I didn't,
• 1:44:35
  I didn't. I've never seen this video before, but I knew that
• 1:44:39
  she was going to conclude with something against what she's calling the red pill community.
• 1:44:45
  But what she's really talking about, Allison, it's just like people that
• 1:44:48
  are talking about issues from the male perspective, they don't have to be like
• 1:44:54
  it's not it doesn't have to be fresh and fit or Andrew Tait or Chris
• 1:44:58
  Williamson. I mean, he's a constantly distancing himself from that. She's just
• 1:45:02
  participating in this kind of whoa, whoa, whoa. We shouldn't be talking
• 1:45:06
  about that stuff. But let me find a way to Like, I mean,
• 1:45:11
  she probably works for the FBI that she's probably one of the one of
• 1:45:14
  the glowies that is trying to get, you know, like redirect people.
• 1:45:16
  I mean it's I don't know, I'm just spitball. I mean the Homeland
• 1:45:20
  is Security, Yeah, Homeland Security, Yeah, yeah, the Homeland Security,
• 1:45:25
  the Department of I mean, I don't know, is do you guys
• 1:45:27
  think she's a fed that she is she a glowy. I'm just asking because
• 1:45:30
  it's it's interesting. It's interesting that this content you know, is coming up,
• 1:45:34
  and it's it sounds reasonable and just like data and stuff, all the
• 1:45:39
  data is not good. And then at the end there's this conclusion, you
• 1:45:43
  know, don't go there. Those guys are crazy. You know, it's
• 1:45:45
  weird. It's weird. One it didn't scale leave, they're sick. Partners.
• 1:45:57
  Men are more likely to significantly more likely to die in the first year
• 1:46:00
  after being widowed. So yeah, sure they end up with another partner after
• 1:46:05
  two years, but they have like four three times or twice the likelihood of
• 1:46:12
  dying than a woman. Like, good lord, is that not devotion enough?
• 1:46:19
  Yeah, let's keep going, all right. We're constantly telling them we're
• 1:46:24
  not afraid of that you are. And it's true. These men will literally
• 1:46:27
  up and go get hospice wives just so they aren't alone for a year or
• 1:46:30
  two after their first wife dies. I really oh oh h yeah, she's
• 1:46:36
  just she's just she just wants to call out men for saying that women are
• 1:46:42
  at risk of being alone if they don't settle. And she's like, well,
• 1:46:45
  we don't care about men though, yeah, your need But here's the
• 1:46:54
  thing, like, uh, it's also so now you're saying that men need
• 1:46:59
  women more than women need men, and that's also bad. But before you
• 1:47:04
  were saying that men don't have loyalty to the women that they have and that's
• 1:47:11
  bad. Like if men leave, it's bad, and if men it's it's
• 1:47:19
  it's all just men bad, isn't it. Oh yeah, it's men bad
• 1:47:24
  all the way down. Okay, I say that's the that's that minds.
• 1:47:29
  We should probably just stop making videos because that's the conclusion every time. I
• 1:47:32
  mean, we could just say so here's what everything is. Everything it's forty
• 1:47:38
  two men all the way, not just men all the way. Men bad
• 1:47:43
  bad, Yeah, men bad. It gets to the point where you where
• 1:47:45
  for me, I'm like, okay, I gotta understand why is there this
• 1:47:51
  obsession with this particular narrative, this particular position. Why is there an obsession
• 1:48:00
  with it? And that's where that whole thing where I say that these women
• 1:48:03
  don't have a self, they're just a cipher. They are like again,
• 1:48:11
  Hannah Cox didn't frame it as in, look, women are worth it because
• 1:48:15
  we are loyal in this particular instance. You know, red pill bros.
• 1:48:20
  You know, like you're saying, we're so shallow, but look at this.
• 1:48:24
  She didn't frame it that way. You notice she didn't frame it that
• 1:48:26
  way. She didn't frame it in terms of women being able to live up
• 1:48:30
  to a particular standard. No, she framed it in terms of men not
• 1:48:34
  living up to that standard. Now, why is that? Because it's a
• 1:48:38
  deep psychologist seek psychological reality that she lives in. She does not see her
• 1:48:44
  life in terms of her own actions. She only sees her life in terms
• 1:48:47
  of men's actions. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, And that
• 1:48:54
  leads to a complete like there's an entire part of self that she is not
• 1:49:00
  developing whatsoever. It's like it's like she has a house, but she only
• 1:49:05
  lives on one half of the first floor, and like there's a door to
• 1:49:10
  the other side of her house, and also the stairs, and she could
• 1:49:13
  go and see the living room, you know, the rumpest room, whatever
• 1:49:16
  the hell that is. She could go up to the second floor. Maybe
• 1:49:19
  there's like fifty extra floors above that, all the space that she could be
• 1:49:25
  exploring, and she could even maybe maybe that's where you go outside to see
• 1:49:29
  the outside world. But no, she is stuck in two rooms in the
• 1:49:34
  front area, you know, like a shitter and a bare studio apartment.
• 1:49:41
  So she's got a mattress on the floor, and she maybe got a like
• 1:49:44
  a want two square feet of space in her kitchen to cut things, and
• 1:49:48
  like a sink and a hot plate. And she's living in this shitty studio
• 1:49:53
  apartment and there's that one door in the room she never goes through because it
• 1:49:57
  says men bad. Go through that door. And then beyond that door,
• 1:50:01
  it's all of the parts of herself that she is refusing to develop or even
• 1:50:06
  look at. Okay, this woman lives in a shitty studio apartment and she
• 1:50:15
  could easily just open that door and have so much more and can tire outdoors
• 1:50:20
  that she could explore huge other floors. Maybe it's like an infinite hotel of
• 1:50:25
  floors that she could be exploring. And she chooses to stay in the shitty
• 1:50:30
  studio apartment because the door says men bad. She refuses to open that door.
• 1:50:38
  Well, enjoy your shitty studio apartment with its hot plate and you know,
• 1:50:43
  open fucking like a toilet in the middle of the room. Okay,
• 1:50:47
  all right, I'm gonna finish this off. And yes, because we're yeah,
• 1:50:53
  we're running out of time here, so work with within themselves, because
• 1:50:56
  it's not okay. If you make a val to someone in sickness and in
• 1:50:59
  health and until death do us part, then you have to stick around to
• 1:51:01
  take care of them when they're sick. And what's absolutely crazy is if these
• 1:51:05
  statistics went in diverse there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Can you
• 1:51:10
  imagine the histrionics if women just up and droves left men when they were diagnosed
• 1:51:15
  with hermal illness? Well, but here's the thing. Why was she so
• 1:51:18
  thrilled? Like she just like, oh my god, it's what Disney We're
• 1:51:21
  going to? What Disney World? Daddy? Y'all? Like that's the expression
• 1:51:26
  on her face. Okay, that's enough, because she's like, this is
• 1:51:29
  bullshit, this is misinformation. It didn't scale, This result is not true,
• 1:51:32
  you know the end. Yes, and there are in fact cases of
• 1:51:38
  women doing this now, I mean, okay, it kind of like makes
• 1:51:43
  the whole thing moved, like men do it sometimes women do it. Sometimes.
• 1:51:47
  Let's move on. There's not much else to say, right, yep.
• 1:51:53
  So here's an example Daily Mail. Actually we we This is from twenty
• 1:51:58
  twenty three April. We report on this on the news show which if you
• 1:52:01
  are new here, you can watch the news show every Tuesday at six pm
• 1:52:04
  Eastern time. We will be doing it tomorrow and it's gonna be a good
• 1:52:09
  one. But anyway, Yeah, my boyfriend's cancer battle was ruining my mental
• 1:52:14
  health, so I left him. Now I'm running a marathon in his honor
• 1:52:16
  or she left him. So but here's a story. And like I said,
• 1:52:20
  these things happen. I'm not I wouldn't do it. I would hope
• 1:52:25
  that my wife wouldn't do it, but she didn't. No, she didn't
• 1:52:29
  because I had cancer so and you know, and it was pretty far along
• 1:52:32
  and it was a risky surgery involved in everything, and she's still here.
• 1:52:38
  So you know, I would say I'm lucky. But I think that I
• 1:52:42
  was also pretty good about vetting my wife and hopefully she was pretty good about
• 1:52:47
  vetting me, so and she you know, so yeah, I mean,
• 1:52:53
  but that's really the message, Like the ultimate message is that you know here
• 1:52:57
  is that it's about working together. And I hate to say it, but
• 1:53:04
  there is one particular side that started this whole war with men of press women
• 1:53:10
  and this is like this is the fallout of that. Like the dating the
• 1:53:14
  dating landscape it's like that is an earthquake and it's utterly destroying the dating landscape.
• 1:53:20
  It is that it is the teutonic forces that are remaking the landscape.
• 1:53:27
  And and if you want anything to really change on a fundamental level, then
• 1:53:31
  you gotta challenge that belief because it puts men and women at odds. And
• 1:53:39
  men don't really they don't really understand being at odds with women. I don't
• 1:53:45
  think, not fundamentally. Because the thing is the red pill guys, they're
• 1:53:48
  still counseling men to you know, as a bisexual woman, I look at
• 1:53:53
  women, I'm like, yeah, that's not worth it. Just no,
• 1:53:56
  you don't do that. Just just just walk the fuck way. And but
• 1:54:00
  guys, the red Hill guys are still like yeow that they're still worth it.
• 1:54:03
  They're still worth it. Let me show you the video and then we'll
• 1:54:08
  end it there. You got to see them, you know, But do
• 1:54:11
  you want to see the show? The other one briefly? The other the
• 1:54:14
  other the other article, yeah, the other article, yeah, right,
• 1:54:18
  yeah, there's two of them. Yeah, are competing. An Australian man
• 1:54:21
  moved to London to support his long distance girlfriend just days after she was diagnosed
• 1:54:27
  with cancer despite only meeting months before and never living in the same city.
• 1:54:32
  I forgot to share the tabit. There, there we go headline. All
• 1:54:35
  right, there you go. So here are competing anecdotes. What do they
• 1:54:40
  mean? Not much? Because apparently men and women do stay together when they
• 1:54:45
  have a serious, serious physical illness, usually because they're long term partners and
• 1:54:51
  they care about each other. Get that, and I don't like And also,
• 1:54:57
  you know, men and women have different foibles and different things that the
• 1:55:00
  have to overcome to have a long term relationship. What a shock. Yep.
• 1:55:04
  Wouldn't it be wonderful if we just focused on helping each other overcome them
• 1:55:09
  instead of condemning like this constantly. All right, all right, so last
• 1:55:18
  thing, I'm gonna show you this video. It's about a minute and a
• 1:55:23
  half long. We're not gonna get dinged because I didn't pull I mean,
• 1:55:27
  I've downloaded it, but it's not like it belonged to anyone. Uh And
• 1:55:31
  just check this out. This is an interesting contrast. Need men? What
• 1:55:38
  do we need men? Need? No? Do you need a man?
• 1:55:45
  No? Man? Do you need a man? Do we need men?
• 1:55:51
  What do we need men? No? Do we need men? We need
• 1:55:57
  men to make a stupid Do we need men? Do we need men?
• 1:56:01
  Do women need men? In this world? Do we need men? Why?
• 1:56:08
  Because we give me a strong ind Do we need men? Like?
• 1:56:11
  Not necessarily, but if I can look at them, like we need a
• 1:56:15
  man to look up? We need men? No? Why nobody needs men?
• 1:56:20
  Really? Do not need a man? Why not? Why do we
• 1:56:24
  need men? Why would I need a man? So? What? What?
• 1:56:27
  What can you get from someone else and you don't get from a man?
• 1:56:30
  Do we think I can get from a man? And I get anywhere
• 1:56:32
  else? Anywhere else? Okay, I don't need this. Do we need
• 1:56:36
  women? Yes? We do? Why because women are awesome? Do we
• 1:56:42
  need women? Why do we need women? Were gonna make us go passitated?
• 1:56:48
  Do we need women worse? Do we need women? Yes? Why
• 1:56:54
  because they're hot? And what else? They're hot? Do we need women?
• 1:56:59
  I mean and we need women? Yeah? Yes, who's gonna?
• 1:57:11
  Oh man, you got a card there at the end, I'm starting to
• 1:57:14
  lose hope. Yeah, I know, I know, but it's it's it's
• 1:57:18
  funny because men. I think again, this is like not data, it's
• 1:57:24
  just a video compilation. But I think that it does say that in general,
• 1:57:32
  men don't have the same narrative being pushed into their brain that they don't
• 1:57:36
  need women. In fact, like the opposite is the case, you know,
• 1:57:42
  and men will continue to love women like obviously to their own detriment,
• 1:57:47
  like no matter how badly women treat them. So yeah, it's like it's
• 1:57:51
  the way that I look at it, Like when I'm looking at the red
• 1:57:55
  pillbros, I'm like, holy crap, you are destroying yourself to continue to
• 1:58:00
  appeal to and become wanted to buy. These women who have are basically completely
• 1:58:09
  poisoned by the narrative, uh that that results from men oppressed women. Like
• 1:58:14
  that's it, Like this is the narrative that's been pushed and it makes it
• 1:58:19
  so that women think that men are not good in relationships, they're not valuable
• 1:58:24
  in relationships, they're worthless in relationships, that they're actively hostile to women and
• 1:58:29
  all of this other stuff, and it sort of poisons their attitude towards men.
• 1:58:32
  And the red pill bros Are still desperately just Unbelieva's just crawling on their
• 1:58:39
  bellies through broken glass with the with the daisy in their hands, please please
• 1:58:45
  please, And it's like that has to be a testament to how much men
• 1:58:53
  still care about women because they're still trying and they're getting nothing, Like they
• 1:58:59
  are the the women that they're bending into pretzels in order to appeal to,
• 1:59:03
  they're simultaneously bending into pretzels in order to appeal to them and then telling men
• 1:59:08
  to get nothing from them. But they that they should ask for less and
• 1:59:12
  less and less, And yeah, they do it in ways that seem and
• 1:59:18
  it seem callous or like cruel, but when you actually read what they're saying,
• 1:59:26
  they're basically saying, turn yourself inside out to overcome her shit tests and
• 1:59:33
  learn to want nothing from her, nothing, nothing in the relationship. And
• 1:59:39
  I'm like, well, what's the point of having when then you know that's
• 1:59:43
  me being pragmatic, like yeah, and there you go. Like and I've
• 1:59:51
  said, I'm in h a server for one of these guys who's sort of
• 1:59:57
  on the red pills spectrum. And I've said, like, you, men
• 2:00:01
  can't be both sides of a relationship. It's impossible, you can't. And
• 2:00:08
  why would you want to be Why would you want to go into a relationship
• 2:00:11
  with a woman and get nothing out of it aside from I got a woman,
• 2:00:16
  I guess that's just really important to guys. Maybe. Yeah. Like
• 2:00:23
  I said, if there was one thing that I could wish, it would
• 2:00:27
  be that men realize that they're pretty wonderful just on their own. You know,
• 2:00:35
  they got all these interests, they got all these hobbies. Whenever they're
• 2:00:40
  on their own, they're always up to something. You know, they're always
• 2:00:43
  doing something crazy or fun or creative. As far as I can tell,
• 2:00:49
  you know, they're having fun, they're playing, and it's like and when
• 2:00:54
  women are on their own, they seem pretty miserable. Unless oh yeah,
• 2:01:00
  yeah, I mean some of them seem okay, like they're doing their crazy.
• 2:01:04
  Well, just reminded me of that hole math video that I saw the
• 2:01:08
  other day. Yeah, yeah, he gets the guy who does like the
• 2:01:12
  graphs and stuff. But yeah, anyway, so okay, let's yeah,
• 2:01:18
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• 2:01:21
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• 2:01:30
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• 2:01:33
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