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- 0:04Speaker 1: All system's going clear?
- 0:06Speaker 2: Were left up?
- 0:36Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
- 0:39Speaker 1: back for another edition of the Monday night football Showdown
- 0:42Speaker 1: show here on the Ship at Nation YouTube station, got
- 0:44Speaker 1: titled got Hoop with Me? As always, do us a
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- 0:48Speaker 1: thumbs up subscribe to the channel as we continue to
- 0:51Speaker 1: grow it. We've got the Cowboys at the Raiders and Hoop,
- 0:55Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you first. But it feels like
- 0:56Speaker 1: another one of these showdown slates. But we're just gonna
- 0:58Speaker 1: play wide receiver rule. But I know we have a
- 1:00Speaker 1: big conversation around double b Rock Bowers. But we got
- 1:04Speaker 1: a lot going on in this lay. But there's a
- 1:05Speaker 1: lot of opportunity and all these positions. Really, how you doing,
- 1:08Speaker 1: my friend? How's your week eleven? So far?
- 1:10Speaker 3: So far, so good? I mean this besides the Lions
- 1:14Speaker 3: game last night that was obviously very very disappointing, and
- 1:18Speaker 3: we touched on a little bit before, but man, that
- 1:20Speaker 3: was that was bad. That was the old classic Jared
- 1:24Speaker 3: golf game, and you know we were watching it. My
- 1:27Speaker 3: son had baseball, so we watched after and even missus hoop.
- 1:32Speaker 3: After the first Lions possession, she goes, oh boy, she goes,
- 1:35Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of those Jared Golf games. So
- 1:37Speaker 3: she nailed it on the first possession, because that's exactly
- 1:41Speaker 3: what happened. It was one of those Jared Golf games
- 1:43Speaker 3: where any sort of pressure just completely cave. Just terrible
- 1:47Speaker 3: passes in the dirt, like a lot of those balls
- 1:50Speaker 3: to Saint Brown, just like nowhere close, and like that
- 1:54Speaker 3: last drive, like he's tried throwing it to a monron.
- 1:57Speaker 3: He's like looking around. I was like, was that to me?
- 2:00Speaker 3: It was really really bad. And that's the that's definitely
- 2:02Speaker 3: the concern with Lions. You know, I've kind of said it,
- 2:05Speaker 3: and I backed off a little bit because after that
- 2:07Speaker 3: Packers game they got back on track. But I just
- 2:10Speaker 3: it looks like these games are gonna pop up from
- 2:12Speaker 3: from golf and it's just a matter of win and
- 2:15Speaker 3: how many. But any sort of pressure he just can't
- 2:18Speaker 3: he can't handle it. It's just bad. Not necessarily turnovers,
- 2:21Speaker 3: but it's either he's gonna take the sack or throw
- 2:23Speaker 3: a bad pass. And he threw a lot of really
- 2:27Speaker 3: really really terrible Uh. Pat reminded me of the Uh,
- 2:30Speaker 3: what was the Sam Darnold game when he said he
- 2:33Speaker 3: was like on the sideline said he was seeing ghosts
- 2:35Speaker 3: right from a couple of years ago. That's by the way,
- 2:39Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Yeah, the same thing for him yesterday. Uh,
- 2:42Speaker 3: that's kind of the golf reaction. So that was bad.
- 2:44Speaker 3: So but the annoying part everyone's all, you know, I
- 2:48Speaker 3: should be more bothered by it the most about the
- 2:50Speaker 3: pass interference at the end of the game. It clearly
- 2:53Speaker 3: was not a pass interference. But like I said, it's
- 2:55Speaker 3: like they get the ball back, you know how that
- 2:58Speaker 3: game's ending, like it's gonna be not three and now
- 3:01Speaker 3: it's gonna be four now because they would go for
- 3:03Speaker 3: it on fourth down obviously, so before shitty passes from
- 3:06Speaker 3: golf and then game over. But the one thing that
- 3:07Speaker 3: would have been interesting though, is if they did somehow
- 3:09Speaker 3: score you know, Dan Campbell's going for two and then
- 3:12Speaker 3: win the game. Yeah, so that would have made it
- 3:14Speaker 3: somewhat interesting, but seemed very unlikely that they would have
- 3:18Speaker 3: been able to take it down the field and score.
- 3:21Speaker 3: It was a bad, bad performance for golf.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be talking showdown here. So it was
- 3:25Speaker 1: the people last night that had the Eagles d that
- 3:27Speaker 1: really wanted to get that ball back to them because
- 3:29Speaker 1: they're like, I'm just gonna get that free interception at
- 3:31Speaker 1: the end from golf and end this baby and get
- 3:33Speaker 1: a few more points title kick it over to you.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Yesterday was a free money Sunday. But there's a you know,
- 3:39Speaker 1: dough up top on a Monday too, so we got
- 3:41Speaker 1: to get it tonight. What's going on, my friend?
- 3:42Speaker 3: How you doing?
- 3:43Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:44Speaker 3: Doing well?
- 3:44Speaker 4: Always a lot of money up top. I can't remember
- 3:46Speaker 4: how many years ago.
- 3:47Speaker 5: I mean, showdown wasn't a thing when I started, when
- 3:49Speaker 5: we all were starting DFS. That was one of the
- 3:51Speaker 5: best things DraftKings could have added. I mean for themselves alone,
- 3:55Speaker 5: the money, the appeal for people, haven't it, But yeah,
- 3:58Speaker 5: it's Showdown's an awesome game. You're never safe until it's over,
- 4:02Speaker 5: and even then sometimes you're still not even safe with
- 4:04Speaker 5: staff corrections. But yeah, forty nine and a half total,
- 4:07Speaker 5: three and a half point favorites are the Cowboys.
- 4:10Speaker 4: We're in a dome.
- 4:11Speaker 5: We should see some offense, but hey, we should see
- 4:13Speaker 5: a lot of things, and defenses continue to be on
- 4:15Speaker 5: the winner, so we'll see if that continues.
- 4:18Speaker 1: God, I hope not tonight. It's been painful, but yeah,
- 4:20Speaker 1: it could be a thing for sure. We got Gino
- 4:22Speaker 1: Smith and Dak Prescott. That's two guys that could turn
- 4:25Speaker 1: it up, turn it off, or do both in the
- 4:26Speaker 1: same game. So we'll have to wait and see how
- 4:28Speaker 1: it plays out.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Hoop.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Just going back to you here title mentioned the total
- 4:33Speaker 1: up top the you know, the joke is right now
- 4:35Speaker 1: that the refs you know, went with their way last night,
- 4:38Speaker 1: maybe tonight they'll let it play out a little bit
- 4:39Speaker 1: more because you know, the NFL doesn't want it to
- 4:41Speaker 1: think like that the rest of the week. What's your
- 4:43Speaker 1: thoughts on the grand scheme overview? How do you see
- 4:45Speaker 1: this game playing out tonight with the Raiders at home?
- 4:49Speaker 3: The one just one more thing to add on to
- 4:50Speaker 3: the whole thing. It's like they're clearly the refs nowadays
- 4:53Speaker 3: are definitely getting more feedback and influence from you know,
- 4:58Speaker 3: what do they call from New York or whatever. Lot
- 5:00Speaker 3: of these plays, I mean, you can see they're delaying
- 5:03Speaker 3: and then they're getting some message and then you know,
- 5:06Speaker 3: making the final call out a play like that, like
- 5:08Speaker 3: you don't need to review it, but like somebody that's
- 5:11Speaker 3: a clear non pass interference, like someone should just phone
- 5:14Speaker 3: down and say, pick up the flag, it wasn't past interference.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Like it's very clear, very quickly. I don't get why
- 5:19Speaker 3: they can't imp Obviously they're not going to review calls,
- 5:22Speaker 3: but they're getting help along the way in these games.
- 5:24Speaker 3: It's very obvious. So like in that scenario, just give
- 5:27Speaker 3: them an extra help, say it wasn't past interference and
- 5:30Speaker 3: you know, let the game play on.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I thought they did change the rules for that a
- 5:34Speaker 1: while ago, and then I was thinking that last night,
- 5:35Speaker 1: and clearly they haven't. But it was like from years
- 5:37Speaker 1: ago there was a Saints game or something came down
- 5:39Speaker 1: at the end, it was like a you know, like,
- 5:41Speaker 1: well that can't happen anymore. That's like clear as it
- 5:43Speaker 1: possibly gets. They review everything else. Why would we not
- 5:47Speaker 1: just review it? And reviews are a good thing, Like
- 5:49Speaker 1: I know they take time and it's bullshit, but it
- 5:51Speaker 1: makes the game accurate and you'd want it if it
- 5:53Speaker 1: was against you two.
- 5:54Speaker 3: But I don't know exactly. So anyhow, this game, I
- 5:59Speaker 3: mean from the look that it should be solid. I
- 6:01Speaker 3: mean it's what you want for a showdown game, big total,
- 6:06Speaker 3: close spread pieces on both sides offensively that are pretty appealing.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Now how does it play out? I don't know. We've
- 6:15Speaker 3: seen a lot of stinkers lately. I mean not only
- 6:18Speaker 3: on Showdown, but even on Like the main slits for
- 6:20Speaker 3: these games just are busting turned into defensive battles or
- 6:24Speaker 3: not even defensive battles, just like inept offensive battling kind
- 6:28Speaker 3: of more so so I'm ready for like a shootout
- 6:32Speaker 3: Showdown game where like these offenses like go off and
- 6:35Speaker 3: I think we have the chance. I mean, this should
- 6:39Speaker 3: be an ideal spot for Dallas, like you know, kind
- 6:41Speaker 3: of offense back to full strength. Got Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens,
- 6:47Speaker 3: Javonte Williams, you got Jake Ferguson. Dallas has so many
- 6:52Speaker 3: pieces to make make for a solid offensive game on
- 6:55Speaker 3: the Raiders. I mean, obviously trade away Jacobi Myers, but
- 6:58Speaker 3: they have guys brought. I mean, the one thing definitely
- 7:01Speaker 3: stands on the slate like Brock Bowers at eight K,
- 7:04Speaker 3: Like why in the world it break powers at ek
- 7:07Speaker 3: Like that is way way too cheap. He's going to
- 7:10Speaker 3: be very popular in all formats. But the Dallas defense
- 7:13Speaker 3: is not good, so they should be able to get
- 7:16Speaker 3: things moving here. So you know, the totals right around
- 7:19Speaker 3: fifty both teams projected to score. I think that's gonna
- 7:24Speaker 3: be what happens here, But you know, I guess I
- 7:26Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised we went the other way. We've seen
- 7:28Speaker 3: it in a lot of these games where you think
- 7:29Speaker 3: it's going to be high scoring and it's not. But
- 7:31Speaker 3: it definitely has the potential to be high scoring. And
- 7:33Speaker 3: we have a lot of pieces on both sides, so
- 7:36Speaker 3: ownership should get spread out pretty much all over the place.
- 7:39Speaker 3: I'd assume.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Yeah, our man BG little necks in there, so that yeah,
- 7:43Speaker 1: I thought they did. So it's yeah, they changed it,
- 7:45Speaker 1: but it was a disaster, so they changed it back.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I don't know how it would be hard to get
- 7:48Speaker 1: that right, But I digress title we did mention. I know,
- 7:52Speaker 1: I'll get to your grand scheme over here. But who
- 7:53Speaker 1: mentioned the brock Bowers pricing. It's all over X people
- 7:56Speaker 1: are talking about it, and of course we never see
- 7:59Speaker 1: super chalk tight end get there except for yesterday. We
- 8:02Speaker 1: just saw it again with McBride. So give us your
- 8:04Speaker 1: take on the Bowers pricing and then everything else you
- 8:06Speaker 1: got with this game.
- 8:07Speaker 5: Yeah, that game was nuts for set just the King
- 8:10Speaker 5: in garbage time fully got there, that whole game did,
- 8:13Speaker 5: and yeah they you were right. It was the Saints
- 8:16Speaker 5: rams that wheel route, that big pass interferences that I
- 8:19Speaker 5: mean ruin the whole game.
- 8:20Speaker 3: So that they call pass interference and then he actually
- 8:22Speaker 3: what was the call call.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Pass interference, but it clearly should have been passing interference.
- 8:28Speaker 4: Yeah, against near the goal line.
- 8:30Speaker 5: So the next year just be that play was that
- 8:32Speaker 5: big twenty nineteen they tried it and it was just
- 8:35Speaker 5: an epic failure, I guess. So then after that they
- 8:37Speaker 5: didn't a lot because you they allowed challenges, you could
- 8:40Speaker 5: challenge pass interference.
- 8:41Speaker 4: That's right, that's what the year after and then they
- 8:44Speaker 4: took they took that away.
- 8:45Speaker 3: So that's just the easy fix now though, like they're
- 8:47Speaker 3: communicating with these rough just call it in, say yeah
- 8:50Speaker 3: that really anything that's like fifty to fifty, Yeah, let
- 8:53Speaker 3: the call play out on the field. But the obvious stuff,
- 8:56Speaker 3: like let them call in real quick only and only
- 8:58Speaker 3: on the plays where they call it and it's not
- 9:01Speaker 3: there obviously, if they don't call it and it is there, no,
- 9:04Speaker 3: we're not going to throw a flag after the fact.
- 9:06Speaker 3: But once you've thrown the flag and it wasn't actually
- 9:08Speaker 3: a penalty. Let him fix it. They're getting feedback obviously.
- 9:12Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean baseball, is it the easiest get that
- 9:16Speaker 5: strike zone? You already know we're looking at it. If
- 9:19Speaker 5: it's in there, it's a strike. If not, it's a ball.
- 9:21Speaker 5: We're not going to go discuss that. We've had a
- 9:23Speaker 5: lot in discord throughout the playoffs. But yeah, bred Bauer's
- 9:26Speaker 5: severely underpriced. Cowboys man. So we had the Cowboys two
- 9:31Speaker 5: weeks ago on the primetime Slight as well.
- 9:34Speaker 4: On Monday, we were talking about it.
- 9:35Speaker 5: They had a bye week last week, but I'm gonna
- 9:37Speaker 5: be looking at like Jayden Blue. He was a healthy
- 9:39Speaker 5: scratch and they called them Malik Davis that game, which
- 9:43Speaker 5: on the show we were being nailed it in the
- 9:45Speaker 5: sense of it didn't work out, but that just gave
- 9:47Speaker 5: us more confidence in Javonte Williams. It does feel like
- 9:51Speaker 5: most of these Showdown slates there's two running backs on
- 9:54Speaker 5: each side, or at least most teams are now giving
- 9:56Speaker 5: multiple guys work the Cowboys situation, It doesn't I feel
- 10:00Speaker 5: like that one bit. If they help healthy scratch Blue
- 10:03Speaker 5: Davis did absolutely nothing. Javonte Williams is a workhorse there,
- 10:07Speaker 5: and the Raiders pretty much have a workhorse in genty
- 10:10Speaker 5: raheem moster, I guess gets in a little bit. But
- 10:13Speaker 5: that's the one unique thing about this late relative to
- 10:16Speaker 5: most of the primetime ones we've had, is I just
- 10:18Speaker 5: think running back, it's really only two guys. We do
- 10:20Speaker 5: have a lot of receivers, like you mentioned prior, though
- 10:23Speaker 5: Raiders play two tight ends a couple of random guys
- 10:26Speaker 5: for the Cowboys as well. But yeah, not kind of
- 10:29Speaker 5: condensed for me in the sense of it's just a
- 10:32Speaker 5: lot of these bumps, Like we have solid value down
- 10:35Speaker 5: below that, like we know we'll be on the field
- 10:37Speaker 5: rotating in that have real projections. We don't have to
- 10:39Speaker 5: guess on Calcin, Tara or Brock right like we did yesterday.
- 10:43Speaker 5: And yeah, I know I shift an eagle slate, but
- 10:45Speaker 5: I'm tired of these eagle slates. It's so difficult to
- 10:48Speaker 5: get those guys right.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Yeah it is. This one will be fun, though, I
- 10:52Speaker 1: think when we get to it, you know, we're looking
- 10:54Speaker 1: at ways at the captain to get different and if
- 10:56Speaker 1: you are playing rock Bauers, how you're playing them, all
- 10:58Speaker 1: that matters. And we still see we continue to see
- 11:00Speaker 1: it is these you know, super low super what's the
- 11:05Speaker 1: best way to put it, less less duped, chop like
- 11:08Speaker 1: even when they're choped, but we're still seeing like sixty
- 11:10Speaker 1: five k's and fifty one k's. Well, you know you're
- 11:13Speaker 1: not seeing all the time. But just the other night
- 11:14Speaker 1: we talked about need lunch money, five hundred k straight
- 11:16Speaker 1: all of it. It's it's happening, So one hundred k's
- 11:19Speaker 1: on FanDuel are happening like it's it's out there to
- 11:22Speaker 1: find it. There's definitely still an edge to the game
- 11:24Speaker 1: when you can find that angle of attack, and if
- 11:26Speaker 1: you play to win, that's that's the kicker. And the
- 11:29Speaker 1: name is ship it for a reason, so you know,
- 11:30Speaker 1: trying to get to the top, get the job done.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Split it with a few people as possible. But if
- 11:35Speaker 1: you're getting sixty sixty five k something like that, nobody's complaining. Hoop,
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you. For your captain thoughts.
- 11:40Speaker 1: You mentioned brock Bauers twelve K and the captain looks
- 11:43Speaker 1: like he will be the most popular based off of that.
- 11:46Speaker 1: But there's options on both sides. There's Ceedee Lamb, there's
- 11:49Speaker 1: you know Genty, Javonte Dak where you're going here at
- 11:53Speaker 1: the captain spot.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Well, my initial thought is definitely it's around like just
- 11:58Speaker 3: because of the price tag, he's gonna be up there.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Not just because of the price seconds brock Bowers he
- 12:03Speaker 3: has massive upside, but the prop that the price tag
- 12:06Speaker 3: is going to make more people play him up top
- 12:09Speaker 3: not necessarily what we're projecting for him to happen on
- 12:11Speaker 3: the field. So since that is the case, I like
- 12:14Speaker 3: it for the sight that we know he's going to
- 12:15Speaker 3: be the most popular, most likely. I mean it's like
- 12:19Speaker 3: ninety He's going to be the most popular. I can't
- 12:21Speaker 3: imagine anyone else will be. So then it's like that
- 12:23Speaker 3: keeps everything else kind of in line in terms of ownership,
- 12:27Speaker 3: Like you have some high upside guys that are going
- 12:29Speaker 3: to be kept in check because of brock Bowers getting
- 12:33Speaker 3: we're showing around twenty percent, which could definitely be the case.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Everyone else is going to be kept in check. So
- 12:39Speaker 3: it makes it nice. Like title talk about the running backs,
- 12:43Speaker 3: good with both those guys Williams and Genty getting all
- 12:46Speaker 3: the work, can catch passes, can score multiple touchdowns, They're
- 12:50Speaker 3: not going to get to twenty because we've got Brock
- 12:52Speaker 3: Bowers Ceedee Lamb, who I love playing and I definitely
- 12:55Speaker 3: will be playing and could end up being like my
- 12:57Speaker 3: highest known guy again tonight, we're show right around ten percent.
- 13:01Speaker 3: That probably does have to hold true because of Brock Bowers,
- 13:05Speaker 3: you know, George Pickens. I think I'm fine with not
- 13:08Speaker 3: as interested the ones I'm most interested in, it's definitely
- 13:12Speaker 3: the running backs and then CD lemb Like those three
- 13:14Speaker 3: are the trio that I want to hammer tonight. You know,
- 13:18Speaker 3: looking at this game, somebody should should go off, Like
- 13:21Speaker 3: there should be a guy that that goes off, and
- 13:23Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it's a skill position player because I'll
- 13:26Speaker 3: probably be a little lighter on the quarterbacks, like I'm
- 13:28Speaker 3: gonna play some dak Gino, not one hundred percent if
- 13:31Speaker 3: I'm gonna play him, but like, if I rank my favorites,
- 13:34Speaker 3: it's definitely CD Williams and then gent I will play Bowers,
- 13:41Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna force in Bowers to the point
- 13:44Speaker 3: where I'm you know, trying to get over the field
- 13:46Speaker 3: on Bowers. I'm gonna hope that Bowers has like you know,
- 13:50Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen Fantasy points and somebody else like outscores them.
- 13:54Speaker 3: So I'll be more in em Bowers in the Flax
- 13:56Speaker 3: than in the Captain. Gonna play him in the Captain
- 13:58Speaker 3: as well, but like I just like using him as
- 14:02Speaker 3: the just knowing that he's gonna be He's gonna hold
- 14:05Speaker 3: everyone else in check at the captain position in terms
- 14:09Speaker 3: of like cheaper captains not as interested, you know, Ferguson,
- 14:16Speaker 3: love Ferguson, you know, with CD hand pick Ins and Williams.
- 14:21Speaker 3: I just I don't know, I struggle struggle getting to
- 14:24Speaker 3: to Ferguson, and I really don't like anything else like cheaper.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Trey Talker would be the next guy
- 14:30Speaker 3: bring into the mix, but I'm really gonna focus in on,
- 14:34Speaker 3: you know, the the three and then probably Dak knowing
- 14:37Speaker 3: that their ownership will be held in check because of Bowers.
- 14:40Speaker 3: And like I said, I will play Bowers, but I
- 14:42Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be uh with the field or
- 14:44Speaker 3: above the field because that's a it's a big boy number,
- 14:47Speaker 3: and you got to allocate a lot to get over
- 14:49Speaker 3: on a twenty percent captain. That's just an obvious play.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to American Wolf and here's ays I'm
- 14:56Speaker 1: here which I'm everywhere listening to many shows, maybe listening
- 14:59Speaker 1: to too many shows. It needs to say, But what
- 15:01Speaker 1: do we do about a two and seven Raiders with
- 15:03Speaker 1: a terrible O line versus Dallas New Edition somehow? You
- 15:05Speaker 1: mean you got to play to your own script and
- 15:07Speaker 1: build a story in there. But we're saying early on
- 15:10Speaker 1: here at least as we can see where that leads
- 15:12Speaker 1: to a higher scoring game and less defense for once
- 15:14Speaker 1: on both sides. Obviously, you know our guy go collect
- 15:17Speaker 1: was talking about the DVP rankings here, but you know
- 15:20Speaker 1: you can play in a bunch of different ways. Title,
- 15:22Speaker 1: what's your thoughts at the captain spot tonight? In this game?
- 15:25Speaker 5: Very similar to Hoop in the sense that I don't
- 15:27Speaker 5: really see myself spinning down at captain. There's there's enough
- 15:31Speaker 5: guys below five K that I think can put up
- 15:32Speaker 5: some points, and I think there's just enough studs up
- 15:35Speaker 5: top where like Genty or Javonte can easily fall in
- 15:38Speaker 5: the box twice.
- 15:39Speaker 4: I mean, we always talk about how.
- 15:41Speaker 5: Inflated these touchdown props are, but Javonte's plus three forty
- 15:44Speaker 5: to score two gent D plus four hundred Bowers plus
- 15:47Speaker 5: six hundred CD plus seven to fifty. If anyone scores
- 15:51Speaker 5: two touchdowns today, it's probably some of them up top
- 15:53Speaker 5: and you're gonna need them. So yeah, I think right now,
- 15:56Speaker 5: I'm I'm messing with seven captains, and that is including Gina.
- 16:00Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna include Geno just because A he's
- 16:03Speaker 5: been so bad so recentcy bias is like, why would
- 16:05Speaker 5: I click a guy that's been that bad. He has
- 16:08Speaker 5: Bowers to throw too, he has Tucker, he has lock
- 16:10Speaker 5: if he has Thornton, he has Besh and Genty can
- 16:13Speaker 5: catch passes. So I do always look at like, can
- 16:16Speaker 5: he throw three touchdowns of three different guys?
- 16:18Speaker 4: I think he can.
- 16:19Speaker 5: So if that's the case, and we're looking at six
- 16:21Speaker 5: percent five percent owned, and he has kind of a
- 16:24Speaker 5: price discount eighty eight hundred versus ten k for gent,
- 16:27Speaker 5: ten to four for Dak, nine to eight for Javonte
- 16:30Speaker 5: eleven CD, Pickens is even higher owned. So that was
- 16:33Speaker 5: the one I've kind of went back and forth on,
- 16:35Speaker 5: and I think I'm gonna play some after that.
- 16:38Speaker 3: CD.
- 16:38Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of the best receivers in football.
- 16:40Speaker 5: All the upside looks good. Pickens on the other side,
- 16:43Speaker 5: Javonte Dak and then it's Bowers gent Gino for me,
- 16:47Speaker 5: if I just play all seven of them, I can
- 16:49Speaker 5: get almost at least with the field. They're overweight on
- 16:52Speaker 5: all seven of these guys if I want to do so.
- 16:54Speaker 5: So I'm playing the Studs today, I will definitely not
- 16:57Speaker 5: be hoping that it's a value guy that gets there.
- 17:00Speaker 1: I love Geno. I think he's one of the best
- 17:02Speaker 1: plays from a DFS perspective on the slate, because again,
- 17:04Speaker 1: I don't care about the pick or the play. All
- 17:05Speaker 1: I care about is the game that we're playing. He
- 17:07Speaker 1: literally is, you know, a thousand or twelve hundred bucks
- 17:10Speaker 1: more than brock Bowers. Bowers, like Hoop said it perfectly,
- 17:14Speaker 1: Bowers is a product of being brock Bowers, but his
- 17:16Speaker 1: ownership being jacked up as it is, is a product
- 17:19Speaker 1: of his price and conversation. So we usually don't love
- 17:22Speaker 1: quarterbacks up top. I try and call him out as
- 17:24Speaker 1: I see it. One, you want somebody that can move
- 17:27Speaker 1: the ball around. If you think brock Bauers are showing
- 17:29Speaker 1: up top, that means you think Geno is doing something.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So you got to start there. And then second of all,
- 17:34Speaker 1: it's the matter of you don't really want to play
- 17:35Speaker 1: quarterbacks when they're super high owned. Gino is getting crushed
- 17:38Speaker 1: in ownership here. And oh, by the way, let's see
- 17:41Speaker 1: if the matchup is it still the Cowboys? It is? Yeah,
- 17:43Speaker 1: So that adds up on top two. So I love
- 17:45Speaker 1: Geno up top. Almost any bowers lineup when people are
- 17:48Speaker 1: trying to get sneaky with it, they're leaving money. Well,
- 17:50Speaker 1: that money right there could be Geno flipped and you
- 17:52Speaker 1: can still leave money in the flex easily and probably will,
- 17:55Speaker 1: so just noting it, I think he's a great option.
- 17:57Speaker 1: I think genty is a great option for that reason.
- 17:59Speaker 1: I think think Trey Tucker is a great option for
- 18:02Speaker 1: that reason. All those guys are capable of. Why they
- 18:04Speaker 1: lead me back to Geno is because all those guys
- 18:07Speaker 1: on the other side, I think it's the same thing.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb paying up. He's a pay up for probability
- 18:13Speaker 1: you're never often getting. I mean it's often you're hard
- 18:16Speaker 1: to say it's oxymoron, but you're not often getting Cede
- 18:20Speaker 1: Lamb at ten to twelve percent ownership on a main
- 18:24Speaker 1: showdown slate where he's like the feature guy and you
- 18:26Speaker 1: have tons of value plays, but he's still again like
- 18:29Speaker 1: Hoop said, once you move to Bowers, it's taking away
- 18:31Speaker 1: from other guys. So I like, you know, three to
- 18:35Speaker 1: four options on the Cowboys side Ferguson, I mean, I'm
- 18:38Speaker 1: definitely gonna spread it out. But the benefit is this.
- 18:40Speaker 1: You know exactly what that means. When I'm doing this,
- 18:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna be underweight on brock Bowers, and so that
- 18:45Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know. I'm sure he's
- 18:47Speaker 1: great up there. I'm sure he makes a ton of sense,
- 18:49Speaker 1: so look good with him. This is where people sometimes,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you know, wonder about what your strategy is going into showdown.
- 18:54Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to play the game.
- 18:56Speaker 1: We're gonna be wrong on a lot of these slates.
- 18:59Speaker 1: But if I'm right, and you know, luckily in the past,
- 19:01Speaker 1: I've been right enough times to make it work for me.
- 19:03Speaker 1: It's it's title saying, as we con teue to repeat it,
- 19:05Speaker 1: it's not how often you are right, it's how much
- 19:07Speaker 1: you win when you are right, and that's all I
- 19:09Speaker 1: care about. And tonight there's a really easy way to
- 19:12Speaker 1: be right, and that's what it's gonna be. Outside of that,
- 19:15Speaker 1: not too much to talk about it. I don't think
- 19:16Speaker 1: you're gonna see me on a bunch of these like lockets,
- 19:20Speaker 1: floor noise. People are bringing up turpens all them. I
- 19:23Speaker 1: think it's gonna be set to mostly what would it
- 19:27Speaker 1: be ninety nine hundred like Trey Tucker and above, and
- 19:31Speaker 1: that still gets me like eight options with an underweight
- 19:33Speaker 1: stance on brock Bowers. But that's just rounding out too
- 19:36Speaker 1: if you want to add on anything there. If not,
- 19:38Speaker 1: you can take us more into the quarterbacks. After my
- 19:40Speaker 1: Geno rant a good point about him.
- 19:42Speaker 3: I mean, I'll definitely plan like here's kind I mean,
- 19:45Speaker 3: I planned on playing. It was just a matter of
- 19:47Speaker 3: how much. I just got a little bit of exposure.
- 19:49Speaker 3: But makes sense. I think in the matchup is good
- 19:53Speaker 3: and you know, likely playing from behind, and you know
- 19:57Speaker 3: you have a very popular guy right there. Price basically
- 20:00Speaker 3: the same in brock Bauers, so good good with them.
- 20:05Speaker 3: The one thing for sure, when you look at the slate,
- 20:07Speaker 3: just the overall number of appealing plays is somewhat limited
- 20:12Speaker 3: to me on the slate unless you're into like the
- 20:16Speaker 3: backup running backs and stuff. And there's just a lot
- 20:18Speaker 3: of questions on that situation. So we taught already touched
- 20:22Speaker 3: on the quarterbacks. You know good with both, and you know,
- 20:25Speaker 3: for Showdown, quarterbacks for the most part, are always going
- 20:28Speaker 3: to be relevant and flex It just comes down to
- 20:30Speaker 3: what you do in Captain, So I'm good with both
- 20:32Speaker 3: those guys. In Captain talked about the running backs, Javante
- 20:36Speaker 3: and then Genty. I think I prefer Javante over Genty
- 20:43Speaker 3: if choosing, I mean, you can obviously play both, but
- 20:45Speaker 3: I think Gavante is more appealing to me. I'm gonna
- 20:49Speaker 3: probably lean the Dallas side. I mean, Dallas, man. They're
- 20:54Speaker 3: playing the freaking Raiders, and you made some defensive additions,
- 20:57Speaker 3: like Dallas should take care of business in this game,
- 21:00Speaker 3: and I kind of need him to in uh in
- 21:02Speaker 3: Survivor as well. In that Big Splash contest, I was
- 21:06Speaker 3: forced to take Dallas. I'll be rooting for him tonight.
- 21:09Speaker 3: But they should like they you're playing the freaking Raiders like,
- 21:13Speaker 3: and it's in a dome. So I'm gonna lean Dallas
- 21:15Speaker 3: in most of these one v one situations. But the
- 21:19Speaker 3: backups definitely don't don't love Like if things are going
- 21:22Speaker 3: well for Williams and Genty, most dirt and I don't
- 21:26Speaker 3: know whoever the Dallas backup is probably does not get
- 21:29Speaker 3: much work, like at all, and this is a slate.
- 21:32Speaker 3: I just think you need points. It's like not a
- 21:35Speaker 3: slate where I'm looking for like five from a cheap guy,
- 21:37Speaker 3: like I think you need like the winning score is
- 21:40Speaker 3: going to be a lot of points tonight. So I
- 21:43Speaker 3: just don't really want to bank on these backup running
- 21:45Speaker 3: backs all have most likely no exposure, maybe just a
- 21:50Speaker 3: little bit. And then we got to see is Blue
- 21:51Speaker 3: a lock to be in like title, I know you
- 21:54Speaker 3: follow this stuff pretty closely, like he's for sure, he's
- 21:57Speaker 3: not a lock.
- 21:58Speaker 5: My guess is he will be active though in this
- 22:00Speaker 5: Like it was two weeks ago pre buy that he
- 22:02Speaker 5: got the healthy scratch, they called up Davis, who literally
- 22:05Speaker 5: they got I think he got one carry, he did nothing,
- 22:07Speaker 5: so I'm I'm expecting them to go back to their
- 22:10Speaker 5: rookie as their backup. But I just think it just
- 22:12Speaker 5: shows how much like it's Javantae Davanta Javonte, they don't
- 22:15Speaker 5: trust anyone because it was Miles Sanders, like they drafted Blue,
- 22:19Speaker 5: and Sanders was the one that was RB two until
- 22:21Speaker 5: he got hurt, So I'm expecting it to be Blue.
- 22:24Speaker 5: But if he's inactive that's that's important news.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Yeah, so kind of kind of have to monitor that
- 22:29Speaker 3: a little bit. I mean, we'll see, but yeah, I
- 22:31Speaker 3: just I just don't love these backups at all at
- 22:34Speaker 3: this position and almost be focusing in on the main guys.
- 22:36Speaker 3: And I do want a lot of both main guys because,
- 22:39Speaker 3: like I said, if things are going well for the offense,
- 22:41Speaker 3: there's a chance they get like all the work, and
- 22:43Speaker 3: that's what you want when selecting running back.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to add one thing too that you said,
- 22:48Speaker 1: because it's important to note if you feel this way, again,
- 22:50Speaker 1: for anybody out there watching it, it's all your snuff,
- 22:52Speaker 1: it's your pool, it's your game. So if who made
- 22:55Speaker 1: a good point that there's not a lot of these
- 22:56Speaker 1: like fringe plays that you feel great about or feel
- 22:59Speaker 1: like you might need or anything like that. If you
- 23:00Speaker 1: ever feel that way, that's okay, even if you play
- 23:03Speaker 1: up a portfolio of lineups, because then it just tells
- 23:05Speaker 1: you the next step, which is to focus on roster
- 23:08Speaker 1: construction and building differently, So maybe you like a smaller
- 23:11Speaker 1: pooling like well, it sounds like I like all the
- 23:12Speaker 1: same guys as everyone else. But if you're not playing
- 23:15Speaker 1: a bunch of Bowers at captain or you're not playing
- 23:17Speaker 1: the next most popular captain and you're building Trey Tucker
- 23:20Speaker 1: captain lineups. Well, now you can still fit in all
- 23:22Speaker 1: those options that you like and don't and don't have
- 23:24Speaker 1: to just go to all these backup options. So I
- 23:26Speaker 1: thought that was a really good point that you brought
- 23:28Speaker 1: up there, and then the chat talked about it too,
- 23:31Speaker 1: And I want to bring this up also about like,
- 23:33Speaker 1: oh the left tackle you get sacked about, like Brissett
- 23:37Speaker 1: lost by what twenty yesterday he got two I in
- 23:41Speaker 1: T's like all this sheet he can still put up
- 23:43Speaker 1: thirty points like it just it's it doesn't matter. Gino himself,
- 23:46Speaker 1: our man sheets one one hundred k got second in
- 23:49Speaker 1: the Million Maker when they got blown out by Washington
- 23:52Speaker 1: by like thirty and it was Gino with three pass catchers.
- 23:54Speaker 1: It's I know exactly. These are a main.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Slates you Jamis Winston, Yeah, I think he might be.
- 24:03Speaker 5: Honestly, he's got to be better in the sense of
- 24:05Speaker 5: the at least puts it on his guys a little
- 24:07Speaker 5: more true, I mean Jamis, Yeah, Jamis just wings it
- 24:11Speaker 5: out there, still almost lost.
- 24:14Speaker 3: He gave us one for sure.
- 24:17Speaker 4: Yeah, there you're on.
- 24:19Speaker 3: The other side. You needed that.
- 24:20Speaker 5: On the other side, they were so low one and
- 24:22Speaker 5: most stuff at even the attackers were already used.
- 24:26Speaker 4: Yeah, use so much.
- 24:27Speaker 5: Literally the highest outside of the New England was like
- 24:30Speaker 5: like two people in each thing.
- 24:31Speaker 4: It was so divert. People played the dolphins like one person.
- 24:34Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there was a lot of people have dolphins.
- 24:37Speaker 4: That was no carnage, no carnage.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Just Atlanta.
- 24:40Speaker 4: Anyone have Atlanta zero in the five one?
- 24:45Speaker 1: Yeah, this might be interesting to you. Who how how
- 24:50Speaker 1: tall do you think Jacoby Brissette.
- 24:51Speaker 3: Is six five? Seems tall?
- 24:57Speaker 1: Six four?
- 24:58Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 24:58Speaker 1: How tall is Kyler Murray.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Five eleven or five ten?
- 25:02Speaker 1: I think they said, is he actually five foot eight?
- 25:05Speaker 1: Is the question they're asking. So I don't know what
- 25:07Speaker 1: his actual is, but I think it is like five
- 25:08Speaker 1: foot eight. Just making fun of it, I'm sure. I
- 25:10Speaker 1: thought it was funny because people always make fun of
- 25:13Speaker 1: Kyler not being able to see these guys, and Jacoby
- 25:16Speaker 1: could not miss forty seven completions. I think new NFL
- 25:19Speaker 1: record as he just sits there on the bench at
- 25:20Speaker 1: a huge loss, like whatever, who cares? But man Michael
- 25:23Speaker 1: Wilson getting eighteen targets and fifteen catches. I didn't even
- 25:27Speaker 1: realize it till it was like, what.
- 25:29Speaker 3: The hell's I didn't realize it at all, Like I
- 25:31Speaker 3: didn't really have much of a sweat, so I wasn't
- 25:32Speaker 3: paying super close attention to it. And then it's like
- 25:35Speaker 3: JAYZ like that that actually happened.
- 25:38Speaker 1: It was crazy, ended up with eighteen targets total. But yeah,
- 25:41Speaker 1: that's the running joke obviously, and someone's that he can
- 25:43Speaker 1: actually see his guys, so that's how he gets them
- 25:44Speaker 1: the ball and gets the completion. So Darnell Washington, Oh, that.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Play was so amazing. Man, that was amazing.
- 25:53Speaker 1: It was nicknamed Smashington Squashington. This guy was just running
- 25:56Speaker 1: these guys over bumms.
- 26:00Speaker 3: It's just really good.
- 26:02Speaker 1: That's crazy. All right, I'll kick it to you man,
- 26:05Speaker 1: I'm running back. I guess I was looking for some
- 26:08Speaker 1: Jaden Blue news. What ended up happening to that Malik
- 26:10Speaker 1: Davis guy? They ended up doing anything?
- 26:13Speaker 4: No, he's back to the back to the practice squad.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I thought it was like they had to
- 26:17Speaker 1: sign him from it because he could only come up
- 26:19Speaker 1: one more time or something. So is he just officially
- 26:21Speaker 1: paid to be on the practice squad now? And they
- 26:23Speaker 1: can't bring him up again.
- 26:24Speaker 5: I guess I don't know for sure if that's the case.
- 26:26Speaker 5: Maybe he got cut and knowing no team would pick
- 26:28Speaker 5: him up, and they got him back there.
- 26:30Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 26:31Speaker 5: I just know right now he's not on the active roster.
- 26:35Speaker 5: We gotta see it like an actors right now, I'm
- 26:36Speaker 5: assuming they're gonna they're gonna go back to Jayden Blue
- 26:39Speaker 5: as RB two. If that's the case and you're playing
- 26:41Speaker 5: fifty plus teams, I mean, he's one point four K.
- 26:44Speaker 4: The only guys that are.
- 26:45Speaker 5: Gonna be on the field below him are Jack Bash
- 26:47Speaker 5: at one K and maybe Hunter left Key a little
- 26:50Speaker 5: bit at four hundred bucks. You can also throw in
- 26:53Speaker 5: the running back room, but it's pretty obvious like most
- 26:56Speaker 5: Art's the backup for the Raiders twenty four hundred. Sure,
- 26:59Speaker 5: if you're playing a bunch of teams, I don't know
- 27:02Speaker 5: how you get excited with any of these guys, but
- 27:03Speaker 5: Chavante and genty and I'm super excited about these guys.
- 27:08Speaker 5: A big total, two guys that are the only two
- 27:10Speaker 5: favorite to score a touchdown in this game minus one
- 27:12Speaker 5: sixty minus one forty five, you're gonna get the ball
- 27:15Speaker 5: out I'm looking at the report card on the Stone
- 27:18Speaker 5: Raiders been okay against the run. They're just a bad
- 27:21Speaker 5: football team in general. Though Cowboys, we're showing a lot
- 27:24Speaker 5: of bad grades, even though they did.
- 27:27Speaker 4: Get some guys on defense.
- 27:28Speaker 5: I know. But yeah, they're gonna genty and Williams and
- 27:31Speaker 5: also catch passes out of the backfield. Gent He's actually
- 27:33Speaker 5: favored for over two and a half receptions, like minus
- 27:36Speaker 5: one thirty eight, plenty of ways to get there.
- 27:38Speaker 4: They're gonna be on the field of Bunch. I like
- 27:40Speaker 4: both running backs quite a bit.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the story. I don't e think it's
- 27:44Speaker 1: gonna affect anything, but of notes, so they did have
- 27:46Speaker 1: to bring them up. You're correct. That was the news
- 27:48Speaker 1: the day Blue was a healthy scratch because they signed him.
- 27:52Speaker 1: They just said, forget it, we're just gonna bring them up.
- 27:54Speaker 1: When they did the trades with the Jets and everything,
- 27:57Speaker 1: like all the trade big blockbuster should happen, they waved him,
- 28:01Speaker 1: nobody picked him up, and then they signed him back
- 28:04Speaker 1: to the practice squad and he's he's eligible for elevation
- 28:08Speaker 1: after the bye week, which is now week to week eleven.
- 28:12Speaker 1: But it's not very unlikely you would see that, but
- 28:14Speaker 1: just of notes, so everybody knows what's going on, but
- 28:16Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. Nate says, just makes for a
- 28:19Speaker 1: case because we kind of ended on captain. I don't disagree, Like,
- 28:22Speaker 1: I think that's key, but I think it's also with
- 28:23Speaker 1: a different captain because then you can get away with
- 28:26Speaker 1: sort of putting similar plays in leaving eight hundred bucks
- 28:28Speaker 1: or six hundred bucks and whatever. If it makes sense,
- 28:30Speaker 1: it makes sense. I think that's kind of the the
- 28:33Speaker 1: setup there. So yeah, no one picked up Malik Davis
- 28:36Speaker 1: after being put on waivers. Shocking, Yeah, very very shocking.
- 28:39Speaker 3: I got it.
- 28:40Speaker 5: What about Youavar Chase too? I mean, how dumb do
- 28:42Speaker 5: these people have to be? He he just fled out
- 28:45Speaker 5: Lie too, I mean, yeah, there's nobody else video. Well,
- 28:50Speaker 5: I would unfortunately say, yeah, I'm an idiot. I did
- 28:53Speaker 5: it because people are gonna watch it.
- 28:57Speaker 1: He's gonna get it.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 5: I mean the thing is, I'm gonna say the truth
- 29:03Speaker 5: because you know, the whole world's gonna be able to
- 29:05Speaker 5: see the truth.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Now.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Now you spit on a guy and you're a liar,
- 29:08Speaker 3: like yeah, like they're both terrible things, but you could
- 29:11Speaker 3: have you could have just been like one and not too.
- 29:13Speaker 3: You could have just been someone that spits on a guy,
- 29:16Speaker 3: but not a liar. Now you're both.
- 29:17Speaker 1: And I don't remember like any NFL player, I'm not
- 29:20Speaker 1: sticking up for it. I'm a title on this, like
- 29:22Speaker 1: you just it's gonna be on camera. But I don't
- 29:23Speaker 1: remember like any NFL player just coming out and being like, yeah,
- 29:27Speaker 1: I spit on that that guy, like you know that
- 29:28Speaker 1: was me, Like they try and just hope for the best,
- 29:31Speaker 1: like underneath behind their back, fingers crossed. No camera on
- 29:34Speaker 1: that angle. Yeah, I just looked at him and like
- 29:37Speaker 1: it looked like I spit on them, even though you
- 29:39Speaker 1: can literally see it in slow mo. Come out from
- 29:42Speaker 1: across and you see Ramsey ponder it for like two seconds.
- 29:45Speaker 1: He's seen it the whole time, and he's like, ah,
- 29:47Speaker 1: I can't do this. I know I'm gonna get in trouble. Noah,
- 29:50Speaker 1: you ain't spitting on me, pal bag.
- 29:52Speaker 3: That's like such a such a pussy move though, like
- 29:55Speaker 3: you're an NFL football player, pat it up and like
- 29:58Speaker 3: you're gonna spit on a guy at least like punch
- 30:01Speaker 3: the helmet, which is also dumb. I mean, so stupid
- 30:04Speaker 3: when you see these guys punching a helmet, but definitely
- 30:06Speaker 3: do that over spitting on a guy, Like who would
- 30:09Speaker 3: spit on a guy? That's like the ultimate just weak move.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Like do any tackle.
- 30:15Speaker 5: Courtland Finnigan back in the day when those two went
- 30:17Speaker 5: at it, and yeah, I mean go at each.
- 30:20Speaker 4: Other and really do something if you're gonna do it.
- 30:22Speaker 1: No, what's the one though, Buddy got his chain ripped
- 30:24Speaker 1: off multiple times, crab Tree chain snatched or someone I
- 30:30Speaker 1: forget who it was now, but it was, yeah, definitely
- 30:32Speaker 1: a chain snatch on the field and it was like, man,
- 30:35Speaker 1: that's pretty aggressive. That's like in the streets. I'm gonna
- 30:37Speaker 1: take your chain from you and you want to rock
- 30:39Speaker 1: the chain mine?
- 30:40Speaker 5: Now taking Johnson fan was one of the best.
- 30:45Speaker 3: I remember that one.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen that Deebo's chain. Now Deebo got a
- 30:52Speaker 1: different chain. No one's taking that. It was it was
- 30:54Speaker 1: Crabtree versus somebody. But I'll let you guys, I don't.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Know what was that.
- 30:58Speaker 5: UFD though had a boom yes, yes, yeah, he had
- 31:04Speaker 5: his glass or something.
- 31:05Speaker 4: He was cleaning up.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Ye.
- 31:06Speaker 5: Scats was right in the back runs and tweeted Bruns
- 31:09Speaker 5: I was like, what am I doing? Not going to
- 31:11Speaker 5: MSG Like, people don't realize if you ever, I mean,
- 31:14Speaker 5: if you're even a little bit of a UFC fan,
- 31:16Speaker 5: if you have a chance to be live in attendance,
- 31:18Speaker 5: it's unlike any any sporting event. I mean, it's it's
- 31:21Speaker 5: psychos going in there, and it's eight hours of just violence.
- 31:25Speaker 3: It's so sick.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a keep to leave, man, That's what
- 31:29Speaker 1: it was. In Crabtree, little chain. Snatch Action said give
- 31:33Speaker 1: me that ship. Boydom took it right off and then
- 31:36Speaker 1: tucks it in like he pretended like he didn't have it.
- 31:38Speaker 1: It's like the spit thing. He tucks it in underneath
- 31:40Speaker 1: his shirt a little bit just to be like, I
- 31:41Speaker 1: don't got your chain. Then I think they found it
- 31:43Speaker 1: in the ground later on. But yeah, and then he
- 31:45Speaker 1: did it again too. To Salar's point here, this was
- 31:48Speaker 1: the other one took it twice. Give me that chain again.
- 31:51Speaker 3: Man.
- 31:51Speaker 1: That's that's good ship. Gotta love that. Yeah, there's there's
- 31:53Speaker 1: been some good ones, all right. I don't have too
- 31:56Speaker 1: much else to add. At the running back position. We'll
- 31:58Speaker 1: wait on that news, like you said, but assume Blue
- 32:00Speaker 1: is gonna be coming up. Again, these these options are.
- 32:03Speaker 1: It just goes back to me what Hoop said earlier,
- 32:05Speaker 1: like the Blues the loop ks. Yeah, if you got
- 32:06Speaker 1: multiple lineups fifty plus, you're probably getting some of those
- 32:09Speaker 1: guys in your pools just naturally as ways to make
- 32:11Speaker 1: your lineups more unique, whatever the factor might be. Did
- 32:15Speaker 1: anyone talk about mostart and I just missed it talking
- 32:17Speaker 1: with chain snatching, I'm curious what the moster thoughts were.
- 32:20Speaker 5: Quick, Yeah, I just had a backup running back that's cheap,
- 32:24Speaker 5: that's in play, but twenty four hundred is somewhat of
- 32:26Speaker 5: a real price tag. It feels like he almost has
- 32:28Speaker 5: to get in the box and he's plus eleven hundred
- 32:31Speaker 5: and DraftKings doesn't have any running prop outside of gents,
- 32:34Speaker 5: both quarterbacks and both starting running backs. Like I I'm
- 32:38Speaker 5: not going to say you need an injury, but it
- 32:40Speaker 5: feels thin. I'm preferring these like cheaper receivers ish over
- 32:44Speaker 5: over that. But if you're playing fifty plus teams, like
- 32:47Speaker 5: you're comparing a lot of bad guys in that like
- 32:50Speaker 5: one to low two k range essentially, and he's low owned.
- 32:52Speaker 3: But I don't love it.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see where I end up on that, I think,
- 32:57Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like we've seen him a
- 32:59Speaker 1: little bit that you could see him get in there,
- 33:01Speaker 1: but yeah, he would need the touchdown. But it's like
- 33:02Speaker 1: if he comes in, you'd think that's kind of what's
- 33:04Speaker 1: gonna end up happening if if he get one taken away,
- 33:07Speaker 1: or if you had like a blowout lineup or a
- 33:09Speaker 1: lineup where they're losing later on, anything like that could happen.
- 33:12Speaker 1: But yeah, it just depends on how many lives.
- 33:14Speaker 5: Last week, six the week before, and then by and
- 33:18Speaker 5: then nine the week prior.
- 33:20Speaker 1: I well, what type of snaps were they though? That's
- 33:23Speaker 1: the guy we had from New England a couple of
- 33:26Speaker 1: weeks ago, or like, what was the New England New
- 33:29Speaker 1: York Jets game on primetime? Who was the backup running
- 33:33Speaker 1: back that we bet two touchdowns? In the discord on
- 33:36Speaker 1: there was there was a man rimired up now no
- 33:41Speaker 1: because Terrell Jennings might not play. Remember we found the
- 33:47Speaker 1: two touchdown prop. It was fire. Everyone was excited he
- 33:49Speaker 1: got in there the week before for like one goal
- 33:52Speaker 1: line carry. We're like, oh baby, give just the any
- 33:54Speaker 1: time at least, and we still couldn't get that one.
- 33:57Speaker 1: So yeah, dearnest Man. We have some fun in the
- 33:59Speaker 1: just s. That's what I love. So yeah, maybe that's
- 34:03Speaker 1: raheem moster tonight we get in on that action, see
- 34:05Speaker 1: what happens. But I don't have anything else on the
- 34:07Speaker 1: running backs title, I'll kick it back to you. On
- 34:09Speaker 1: the wide receivers, we've talked Lamb. We talked a little
- 34:12Speaker 1: bit of Tucker but Pickens Turpin Floor NOOI. You know
- 34:15Speaker 1: Thornton Lockett, Tyler Lockett, former Seahawk connection. That's what people
- 34:20Speaker 1: seem to be excited about. I saw somebody earlier to say,
- 34:22Speaker 1: play Lockett in the Captain. I'm fine, but you would
- 34:25Speaker 1: definitely want to get like really different after that, because
- 34:28Speaker 1: you're just gonna land on the same four or five
- 34:30Speaker 1: studs that everybody else does. You won't really have much
- 34:33Speaker 1: of a different lineup overall.
- 34:35Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean shout out to whop. It was the
- 34:36Speaker 5: last Raiders game, I think believe a showdown or something.
- 34:39Speaker 5: He was talking Lockett, I was calling him Dusty, and
- 34:42Speaker 5: I feel like every pass was going to Tyler Lockett.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Definitely still definitely still Dusty, but you know, dusty guys
- 34:47Speaker 3: can still perform when they're given the opportunity.
- 34:49Speaker 4: It's true.
- 34:50Speaker 5: The problem is now is we have Tyler Lockett at
- 34:52Speaker 5: ownership sixteen percent. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it
- 34:56Speaker 5: was a little higher, just because of the range that
- 34:58Speaker 5: he's in. But yeah, like these Raiders wide receivers outside
- 35:03Speaker 5: of Trey Tucker, who's sixty six hundred, I still going
- 35:05Speaker 5: to definitely play some Trey Tucker, though wide receiver one
- 35:08Speaker 5: on the field almost every single play. Gino's favorite, second
- 35:12Speaker 5: favorite target behind Bauers. But I'm gonna play that. But Lockett,
- 35:15Speaker 5: Dante Thornton, and Jack besh are three four, two K
- 35:19Speaker 5: and one K. Like if Gino's gonna be slinging, especially
- 35:22Speaker 5: if I'm playing some GINO Captain teams, they fit in nice.
- 35:25Speaker 5: But that's like instead of playing Mostard or Jayden Blue
- 35:28Speaker 5: as much, I'll play these receivers that at least will
- 35:30Speaker 5: be on the field. If they get a catch for
- 35:32Speaker 5: ten yards, that's two points right there, And they have
- 35:35Speaker 5: better touchdown props than the moster as. Actually no, Besch
- 35:40Speaker 5: is plus eleven hundred a little better. Thornton's plus six hundred,
- 35:44Speaker 5: Lockett plus four twenty five, Tucker plus two twenty so
- 35:47Speaker 5: books are saying it's it's Tucker Lockett, Thornton and then
- 35:51Speaker 5: Besh and that's how the snaps are and I.
- 35:53Speaker 4: Do agree with that.
- 35:54Speaker 5: So all of them are very much in play Cowboys stuff.
- 35:57Speaker 5: Flora No is the one that's standing up most to
- 35:59Speaker 5: me because he feels overpriced at forty six hundred, but
- 36:03Speaker 5: he like he clearly overtook Tolbart's row roll. We talked
- 36:07Speaker 5: about that in week nine as well, and he's out
- 36:10Speaker 5: snapping Turpin about three to one as well. Turpens out
- 36:14Speaker 5: snapping Tolbert by a little, so we get a clear
- 36:17Speaker 5: wide receiver. Three Cowboys should move the football. Javante's own DAK,
- 36:22Speaker 5: somewhat owned, CD, somewhat owned. Like if Florine gets in
- 36:25Speaker 5: the box, that's leverage off a lot of different things.
- 36:27Speaker 5: So I'm going to overspend a little bit for FLORAOI
- 36:30Speaker 5: he projects worse than the kickers and stuff in that range.
- 36:34Speaker 5: Nothing really else to say. I'll play a little Turpin
- 36:36Speaker 5: a gadget guy at three k as well, But yeah,
- 36:39Speaker 5: Tolbart's pretty much out of this offense, which is why
- 36:42Speaker 5: Florinoy gets a boose and Turpen's always a gadget guy.
- 36:45Speaker 1: How far off was the the Thornton snap count when
- 36:49Speaker 1: you pulled it up versus Lockett.
- 36:52Speaker 5: Well, Thornon out snapped him by like like three, I
- 36:55Speaker 5: mean it was really close. Sixty fifty per for Lockett,
- 37:00Speaker 5: Besh was twenty three percent. So Tucker plays every snap
- 37:04Speaker 5: Thornton and Lockett after that pretty much the same than Besh.
- 37:07Speaker 4: So yeah, it was somebody in here.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsil, our longtime supporter, forty nine er Ricky Pearsol
- 37:14Speaker 1: back on the field. Good to see you out there
- 37:15Speaker 1: doing absolutely nothing yesterday. But as a Raiders fan, I
- 37:19Speaker 1: would be shocked if Thornton doesn't get I like the
- 37:21Speaker 1: line though, doesn't mean he will catch them though, I agree,
- 37:24Speaker 1: and that's part of it. But I definitely think he's
- 37:26Speaker 1: a solid option At two k versus thirty four hundred.
- 37:30Speaker 4: You get a bad drop.
- 37:31Speaker 5: He did have a streak down the right, I think, yeah, yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 5: he put it in his hands. It was a really
- 37:35Speaker 5: bad drop, but he I would have been like four
- 37:37Speaker 5: point five five points literally right there.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it was. It was Dearnest Johnson. Now
- 37:44Speaker 1: it's Deonte Dante with a you know, get a little
- 37:47Speaker 1: action in there. We can we can try him out
- 37:48Speaker 1: instead today two thousand bucks. I think good option in
- 37:51Speaker 1: the flex at least, So I'll go there, uh hoop
- 37:54Speaker 1: what he got at the wide receiver positioning to add
- 37:56Speaker 1: on or any others who want to talk about, not.
- 37:58Speaker 3: Much they had on but I I mean just to
- 38:00Speaker 3: continue on with that Thornton conversation. Probably my favorite, you know,
- 38:04Speaker 3: cheap guy, you know, favorite guy below like the Kickers.
- 38:08Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still in on on Tyler Lockett, but
- 38:10Speaker 3: i mean the upside I think is definitely clearly limited.
- 38:13Speaker 3: I'll take the guy that is going to get probably
- 38:16Speaker 3: some deep shots down the field against this Dallas defense
- 38:18Speaker 3: that has given up a lot of big plays this year.
- 38:21Speaker 3: So Thornton definitely stands out to me as a solid,
- 38:24Speaker 3: you know, showdown sort of play, especially if you're playing
- 38:27Speaker 3: Gino captain teams. Like that's a really good pairing right there.
- 38:31Speaker 3: So I'm definitely in on Thornton. You know, we already
- 38:35Speaker 3: talked about c D pickings, Tucker. I think those are
- 38:38Speaker 3: kind of in a group of their own. They're going
- 38:40Speaker 3: to be on the field the whole time. And you know,
- 38:43Speaker 3: Talker at sixty six is definitely a solid play it's
- 38:46Speaker 3: a good price tag for guy. It's going to be
- 38:47Speaker 3: on the field and you know, potentially playing from from behind.
- 38:50Speaker 3: I guess, you know, maybe we're talking about a little
- 38:52Speaker 3: bit like too much, Like Dallas is going to have
- 38:54Speaker 3: this big lead and they're only favored by three and
- 38:57Speaker 3: a half. You know, so it's it's a field goal game.
- 38:59Speaker 3: It's actually but you know, I do like Tucker at
- 39:03Speaker 3: that price tag. Lock it at thirty four. You know,
- 39:06Speaker 3: we talked about it on the Was it a main
- 39:09Speaker 3: slad or showed on I can't remember, but we definitely
- 39:11Speaker 3: talked about Lockett.
- 39:13Speaker 4: I think it was the showdown who did the Yeah.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Yeah the rock Yeah yeah yeah. It's not as appealing
- 39:23Speaker 3: when he's gonna get some ownership, but still in play.
- 39:26Speaker 3: We need value on the slate. We definitely need some
- 39:28Speaker 3: value on the slate. So good with that Turpin Flora
- 39:31Speaker 3: I like to call on Florine, you know, a little
- 39:34Speaker 3: more expensive than Turpin. Urpin's definitely get some more ownership.
- 39:38Speaker 3: You know, at these price tags, one big play is
- 39:41Speaker 3: really all you need. And then this Jack that guy
- 39:44Speaker 3: just don't I don't know, I don't get it. A
- 39:45Speaker 3: lot of people always talk about him is he is
- 39:47Speaker 3: he playing? Like, what are the snaps looking like for back?
- 39:50Speaker 4: Not much? I mean twenty yeah, about one fourth one
- 39:53Speaker 4: fifth of the snaps.
- 39:54Speaker 5: It's a rookie, he I mean, he got buried on
- 39:56Speaker 5: the depth chart a lot of Yeah, there wasn't really
- 39:59Speaker 5: that much hype.
- 39:59Speaker 4: Thornton had a lot of hype coming into the years.
- 40:03Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Thornton was a guy in Bestball. It came
- 40:05Speaker 3: and talking about her kind of going in the same
- 40:07Speaker 3: same range. So I like, uh, I like Thornton quite
- 40:11Speaker 3: a bit here, and you know, I might need some back,
- 40:13Speaker 3: but I'm not not thrilled about it. But uh, that
- 40:16Speaker 3: kind of kind of where we're at for uh wide receiver. Yeah,
- 40:19Speaker 3: this is not it's just hard to project those the
- 40:22Speaker 3: two k guys that are just dependent on probably like
- 40:25Speaker 3: one big play. It's like what what do you want
- 40:27Speaker 3: to what do you want to put them at? Like,
- 40:28Speaker 3: you can't put them much higher. You can't project him
- 40:30Speaker 3: for like six or something like that. So it's probably
- 40:34Speaker 3: based on props. It's the twelve and a half receiving
- 40:36Speaker 3: yard and I believe.
- 40:37Speaker 1: It's not underprojected, but you're you're talking about Yeah, that's
- 40:40Speaker 1: why I want to bring it up, because you know,
- 40:41Speaker 1: the guy has one boy four zero zero zero zero
- 40:43Speaker 1: four three like he's he's not under projected at all.
- 40:46Speaker 1: It's you. You're playing him for the the slate at hand,
- 40:49Speaker 1: and if everyone's gonna play Tyler Lockett for a little
- 40:52Speaker 1: bit more, they're gonna move to the other side with
- 40:53Speaker 1: one of those cowboys or whatever else it might be.
- 40:56Speaker 1: It is only one play. It is showdown. That one
- 40:58Speaker 1: play makes or breaks a lineup we see all the time.
- 41:00Speaker 1: So that's what you're playing him for. But I don't
- 41:02Speaker 1: I wouldn't like go boost his projection unless you just
- 41:04Speaker 1: want to make sure you're doing it that way to
- 41:06Speaker 1: get more of him than that. I'm fine with that too,
- 41:08Speaker 1: So maybe that's what you're asking for. But I definitely
- 41:10Speaker 1: think it's an option here to go with Gino at
- 41:14Speaker 1: captain like they're talking about. And then you know, someone said,
- 41:17Speaker 1: like Brandon, this is true. Probably yeah, good bet would
- 41:20Speaker 1: be Gino to throw an eye on t tonight, But
- 41:21Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that he wouldn't be involved. Still, like
- 41:23Speaker 1: I said, these guys can throw two three picks and
- 41:25Speaker 1: still get out there and play catch up. And Gino's
- 41:28Speaker 1: done it before he can do it again. Brissette did
- 41:30Speaker 1: it yesterday. Team You can lose by twenty and still
- 41:32Speaker 1: be up there, you know, on classic slates, let alone
- 41:35Speaker 1: on a showdown like this, it's possible as well. So
- 41:37Speaker 1: I think it's interesting just to look at from that perspective.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Turpin is another one, even on the other side. Like,
- 41:43Speaker 1: I think the other thing also is that Pickens just
- 41:46Speaker 1: gets squeezed in some way, shape or form, like just
- 41:49Speaker 1: based on everything, he's a thousand bucks.
- 41:51Speaker 3: More hours I didn't want to touch him.
- 41:53Speaker 4: Then.
- 41:54Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah.
- 41:57Speaker 3: I continue on. But I think that is he just
- 42:00Speaker 3: has to like right there with CD above him, brock
- 42:04Speaker 3: Bowers below him as a pass catcher, trade talker looking
- 42:07Speaker 3: like a solid value, Pickens has to come down.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Yeah. So going back to that too, I think the
- 42:12Speaker 1: other thing it made me think of was like, oh,
- 42:13Speaker 1: definitely still have interest in the captain as well if
- 42:16Speaker 1: it's like a Pickens game and that's where the Cowboys
- 42:18Speaker 1: score their points through. I think that's another thing that
- 42:21Speaker 1: stands out to me is just you know, different ways
- 42:23Speaker 1: to use him. But most people when they're getting any
- 42:25Speaker 1: of these lineups where they're gonna have the money left,
- 42:27Speaker 1: they're gonna probably be able to get to Lamb or
- 42:29Speaker 1: they'll go down to Ferguson or whatever it is on
- 42:32Speaker 1: that team specifically. But you also have to consider about
- 42:34Speaker 1: the lineup spot that he's taking up. It's all flex.
- 42:37Speaker 1: There's five flex spots. So it's just like on the
- 42:39Speaker 1: classic slate where you say flex can be a running back,
- 42:42Speaker 1: a wide receiver, a tight end, can be anything here
- 42:45Speaker 1: and a lot of people are using Bowers and you
- 42:47Speaker 1: can play both. I'm just saying if you're looking for
- 42:49Speaker 1: a swap or something that just gets you a little
- 42:50Speaker 1: bit different, that would be a way to go about
- 42:53Speaker 1: it as well. If you're in like a geno lineup
- 42:55Speaker 1: with no Bowers but instead use Pickens on the other side,
- 43:00Speaker 1: it's like a double whammy because it's like Bowers out
- 43:02Speaker 1: of the captain. Bower's not needed in the flex the
- 43:05Speaker 1: guy almost the same price. Most people have some different
- 43:08Speaker 1: combination of that, you'd be leveling yourself into a different
- 43:11Speaker 1: spot where that could put you up to the top.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Obviously you go to the bottom if Bowers is needed.
- 43:15Speaker 1: But just in that example, thought i'd bring that up
- 43:18Speaker 1: title mentioning Bowers Bowers, Bowers, we continue on with that.
- 43:21Speaker 1: But Ferguson on the other side, I'll let you take
- 43:23Speaker 1: it into tight end. You've got Scoon Maker, you got
- 43:26Speaker 1: Michael Meyer. Christmas. You know we're onto Christmas soon, but
- 43:30Speaker 1: you know Halloween's over. But maybe Meyer is the ultimate
- 43:33Speaker 1: sneak play. We saw all these backup running backs get
- 43:35Speaker 1: in there yesterday. Maybe Meyer gets the action, takes it
- 43:38Speaker 1: away from Bowers.
- 43:39Speaker 4: What do you think, Yeah, I mean, I'll definitely be playing.
- 43:41Speaker 5: Meyer is just someone that's always on the field, or
- 43:43Speaker 5: he's on the field a good amount even when Brock's
- 43:45Speaker 5: in because they run plenty of two tight on sets.
- 43:47Speaker 5: The security blanket for Gino. Nothing wrong with that. The
- 43:51Speaker 5: problem is for me is the Cowboys situation. Like Ferguson
- 43:55Speaker 5: talk about getting squeezed, Ferk has to get squeezed, and
- 43:59Speaker 5: he's just over price in my opinion. Now, yeah, like you,
- 44:02Speaker 5: you're paying, you're paying up for lower ownership and when
- 44:07Speaker 5: he gets there, he fully gets there, But you go
- 44:10Speaker 5: eight hundred cheaper to Trey Tucker pretty much projected the same,
- 44:13Speaker 5: and then Aubrey and Carlson and stuff. You're getting over
- 44:16Speaker 5: two k plus savings. But if you're going up. It's
- 44:18Speaker 5: Brockbauer for six hundred more Gino and all that. He's
- 44:22Speaker 5: in a dead range with Trey Tucker and Trey Tucker
- 44:25Speaker 5: projects pretty much the same for eight hundred less. So
- 44:28Speaker 5: he's someone in chalk your lineups and stuff. Maybe I
- 44:30Speaker 5: find my way onto him, but I definitely don't love
- 44:32Speaker 5: him in the vacuum schoonmaker. I will play a little
- 44:35Speaker 5: of at sixteen hundred just for the sense of he's
- 44:38Speaker 5: had at least two targets in the past five games.
- 44:41Speaker 5: Two catches for twenty yards four points could be enough
- 44:44Speaker 5: on this late at sixteen hundred bucks. So if four
- 44:48Speaker 5: is enough, maybe at sixteen hundred, just because of who's
- 44:50Speaker 5: in his range he's competing with, I'll get a little there.
- 44:53Speaker 5: But I do not like Dallas pass catchers for his overpriced.
- 44:56Speaker 5: But again, you can use that to your benefit because
- 44:58Speaker 5: he'll be lower owned that way. I like my favorite
- 45:01Speaker 5: tight end that cost is Mayor I think for sure, though.
- 45:05Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing that's interesting is like looking at it
- 45:06Speaker 1: from that perspective. It just depends on especially for those
- 45:09Speaker 1: I talked about this morning on Takedown and Break and
- 45:11Speaker 1: a lot of people watching this, are you saying, oh,
- 45:13Speaker 1: I don't have one hundred and fifty lineups. I'm not
- 45:14Speaker 1: playing fifty plus. I'm not making my decisions based on
- 45:17Speaker 1: all your guys's portfolio thoughts. And that's okay. We want
- 45:20Speaker 1: to try and tailor the content as best as we
- 45:22Speaker 1: can to what you're actually in on. And I think
- 45:24Speaker 1: what people struggle with sometimes is like with Tucker, they
- 45:27Speaker 1: game log watch and they're saying, like, well, five, six, eight, twelve,
- 45:31Speaker 1: eleven four, but wait, he can throw up a forty
- 45:35Speaker 1: three point nine, so that like they look for that angle,
- 45:38Speaker 1: but in showdat it could be a bit different. And
- 45:39Speaker 1: then you look at ferguson you do pay a little
- 45:42Speaker 1: bit more on the fact that you know, he seems overpriced,
- 45:45Speaker 1: but people see a twenty one, a twenty three, a seventeen,
- 45:49Speaker 1: a twenty one, like all these bigger numbers more consistent.
- 45:52Speaker 1: So maybe that's where where when people are building they
- 45:54Speaker 1: kind of feel that way. But if you have the money,
- 45:57Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I just think that's, you know,
- 45:58Speaker 1: a good call by you. But you know, getting with
- 46:00Speaker 1: Fergus you're gonna get a little bit more you know,
- 46:03Speaker 1: safety if you will. But you know, with Tucker you're
- 46:06Speaker 1: playing for the home run if it's a big Tucker
- 46:07Speaker 1: game and tonight he's also happens to be a really
- 46:10Speaker 1: good leverage option because he's he's right there. But to
- 46:13Speaker 1: be honest, Ferguson is kind of the same. He's another
- 46:15Speaker 1: tight end. You know, eleven one two brock Bowers, Any
- 46:18Speaker 1: brock Bowers captain lineup can be Ferguson, So that could
- 46:21Speaker 1: be another way to look at it as well. So
- 46:23Speaker 1: good good points across the board. The chat thinks it's Meyer.
- 46:26Speaker 1: What do you think, Coop? What do you got here
- 46:28Speaker 1: outside of the conversation around Bowers, your Ferguson takes any
- 46:31Speaker 1: of the backups? What else do you see?
- 46:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not anything in terms of like a
- 46:37Speaker 3: hot take where to talk about Bowers, like just clearly
- 46:40Speaker 3: miss price on the slate and you know that's going
- 46:42Speaker 3: to mean high captain ownership, high flex ownership, but definitely
- 46:47Speaker 3: not you know, trying to fade brock bowlers here against
- 46:50Speaker 3: the Dallas defense. I mean, just a phenomenal play. It's
- 46:54Speaker 3: you know, just got to be a little bit different
- 46:56Speaker 3: with how you play him. Mayor I think at four
- 46:58Speaker 3: K like titles, I think great plague, I mean kind
- 47:01Speaker 3: of it is kind of weird, like looking at this offense.
- 47:04Speaker 3: I mean you could kind of make the argument that
- 47:06Speaker 3: it's you know, Bower's wide receiver one. Mayor is right
- 47:10Speaker 3: there as you know him and Trey Tucker I kind
- 47:12Speaker 3: of have equal as a wide receiver number two and
- 47:16Speaker 3: he's four k so great option does get tricky with
- 47:20Speaker 3: the Dallas stuff. I mean, big Ferguson guy, love him,
- 47:23Speaker 3: but man, the seventy four it's tough, and it's not
- 47:25Speaker 3: like he's priced where fifty and a touchdown might not
- 47:29Speaker 3: be enough. Like if he gets four catches fifty yards
- 47:32Speaker 3: and a touchdown, probably on the optimal, but it's like
- 47:36Speaker 3: he really has got to do something, I guess is
- 47:38Speaker 3: the point I'm trying to make at seventy four. And
- 47:41Speaker 3: he could get there for sure, but probably prefer him
- 47:44Speaker 3: more in DAK captain teams. And the same with Schoonmaker.
- 47:48Speaker 3: You know, I'll have him in the pool. Don't want
- 47:50Speaker 3: a ton of them, but DAK captain teams. I think
- 47:53Speaker 3: it is the best way to utilize Schoonmaker and Ferguson,
- 47:57Speaker 3: Like I said.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's you know, the Ferguson one can
- 48:00Speaker 1: be interesting when you're looking at your your Bowers build
- 48:02Speaker 1: like Brandon I just answered his questionnaire, like we do
- 48:05Speaker 1: play one point fifty. But you know, it's it's all
- 48:08Speaker 1: tailoring it to what you do, and that's why we're
- 48:10Speaker 1: trying to give ideas and not just you know, the
- 48:12Speaker 1: hard and fast you got to use this guy up tops.
- 48:14Speaker 1: It's how you want to build it. But I think
- 48:16Speaker 1: if you're building a single entry tonight and you're thinking
- 48:19Speaker 1: about brock Bauers, you can think about what it could
- 48:21Speaker 1: look like with somebody else up there, whether it's a Pickens,
- 48:24Speaker 1: a Ferguson, something like that that's kind of in the
- 48:26Speaker 1: same zone. Gets you a similar build type, but a
- 48:30Speaker 1: completely different captain and maybe a different roster otherwise. So
- 48:33Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the main thing I'm always
- 48:35Speaker 1: looking at is in Showdown can only do so much.
- 48:38Speaker 1: It's a much smaller player pool than you're used to,
- 48:40Speaker 1: so it's really just setting up for how you want
- 48:43Speaker 1: to set your builds up. Sometimes it's a unique captain,
- 48:45Speaker 1: sometimes it's leaving money on the table, sometimes all the above,
- 48:48Speaker 1: So think about that when you're building out. But I
- 48:50Speaker 1: like the Meyer call somebody said in the chat too,
- 48:53Speaker 1: like it could just be with Geno having to scramble
- 48:55Speaker 1: and just finds Meyer on the run. Like that could
- 48:57Speaker 1: be possible as well. But you know, bigger thoughts are
- 48:59Speaker 1: gonna be like Bours Ferguson and then these guys in
- 49:03Speaker 1: their quarterback captain lineups, where you can start mixing in
- 49:05Speaker 1: the backups, title anything else you got, if not kickers
- 49:09Speaker 1: and defenses.
- 49:10Speaker 5: No, not really kickers and defenses. If you can go
- 49:14Speaker 5: any Trey Tucker Ferguson team, drop them down to Aubrey Carlson,
- 49:18Speaker 5: it's a little harder, like you're giving up roughly three
- 49:21Speaker 5: three and a half projection points going like dropping Boers, Gino, Pickens,
- 49:27Speaker 5: et cetera. Gets a little more difficult. So right there,
- 49:30Speaker 5: seven point four k all the way down to five.
- 49:33Speaker 5: You can easily leave two to four on this late
- 49:34Speaker 5: you can leave a little more though. I always look
- 49:36Speaker 5: at that defenses. I mean, Max Crosby's a monster. I
- 49:40Speaker 5: mean he can buy himself, stripstack, grab the ball and
- 49:43Speaker 5: take it the other way. Cowboys got a couple guys
- 49:46Speaker 5: on defense. Gino leagues a league in interceptions. You can
- 49:50Speaker 5: make a case for that low ownership, But I I
- 49:53Speaker 5: think both offenses move the ball pretty efficiently. The problem
- 49:56Speaker 5: is you can still do that and the Titans can
- 49:59Speaker 5: score twe against the Chargers on defense because of a
- 50:02Speaker 5: random special teams and a pick six. So I will
- 50:04Speaker 5: always include the defenses, really, but I prefer kickers, and
- 50:08Speaker 5: I think it's a great kicker, say fifty pluses on
- 50:10Speaker 5: the table for both guys in a dome if the
- 50:13Speaker 5: offense is stall.
- 50:14Speaker 3: So yeah, I like kickers.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Trying to catch up here what you were talking on,
- 50:18Speaker 1: but I thought I saw this, so I was just
- 50:19Speaker 1: going back to it, hoop and you do the game
- 50:21Speaker 1: log watching on these kickers, but they hot. They They
- 50:25Speaker 1: did bring Greg Joseph in over in Las Vegas because
- 50:29Speaker 1: of how bad Carlson's been and he has not put
- 50:32Speaker 1: up any good numbers in that but there was an
- 50:34Speaker 1: article just from a few hours ago talking about how
- 50:37Speaker 1: today could be a better day for him. Obviously, like
- 50:39Speaker 1: title just mentioned, the spot, the stadium, all all the
- 50:42Speaker 1: different factors. What's your thoughts of the kickers here? Who?
- 50:46Speaker 3: Definitely you know, when you're in a dome and you
- 50:48Speaker 3: got a guy like Aubrey that like fifty yarders look
- 50:51Speaker 3: like chip shots, like you gotta have some interest I
- 50:55Speaker 3: like him a lot, you know, definitely my favorite out
- 50:57Speaker 3: of all four. When talking you know, kickers and defense. Yeah,
- 51:00Speaker 3: Carlson's fine. I mean yeah, it hasn't been great, like
- 51:03Speaker 3: you said, And Nia Joseph is in the player pool
- 51:07Speaker 3: on DraftKings. They signed him to the practice squad on Tuesday.
- 51:12Speaker 3: Sounds like it's still gonna beat Carlson. But yeah, a
- 51:14Speaker 3: little bit of risk there, but definitely playing one game.
- 51:18Speaker 3: And then the defenses, yeah, I mean fine if I
- 51:21Speaker 3: get some, I mean they're cheap. We need some cheap
- 51:23Speaker 3: plays on the slate to make a lot of things work.
- 51:25Speaker 3: So I'll have them in the pool, but will be
- 51:29Speaker 3: you know, probably way under the field on the defenses.
- 51:32Speaker 1: Said that in typical Pete Carroll fashion, he signed another
- 51:36Speaker 1: kicker to make Carlson compete for his job. Put the
- 51:38Speaker 1: pressure on. So we'll see how that goes tonight. But
- 51:42Speaker 1: if you wanted to know this in a standalone Thanksgiving game,
- 51:45Speaker 1: we've got Thanksgiving coming up here. We'll have a special
- 51:47Speaker 1: show schedule that week to get you guys all set up.
- 51:50Speaker 1: But it said Carlson. This is back in twenty twenty one,
- 51:53Speaker 1: they were on a three game losing streak just like
- 51:56Speaker 1: they are now. He kicked all five of his field goals,
- 51:59Speaker 1: including a far fifty six yarder and game winner in overtime,
- 52:02Speaker 1: So this could be the spot to you know, standalone
- 52:05Speaker 1: game three game losing streat. Gotta get the mojo back.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Everything that happens in twenty twenty one, Thanksgiving happens in
- 52:12Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Not thanks much.
- 52:13Speaker 3: We were that. We were at that game. Title, that's
- 52:15Speaker 3: the game we were at. That was That was the
- 52:18Speaker 3: game we were at.
- 52:19Speaker 4: I was thinking about it literally this morning. Yeah, that
- 52:22Speaker 4: was that was That.
- 52:23Speaker 3: Was the game. That's the game we met up and those.
- 52:25Speaker 4: A lot of drinks are flowing. I don't remember the
- 52:27Speaker 4: whole game, but it was a good game.
- 52:28Speaker 3: Yeah, we were at that game. We were those those
- 52:32Speaker 3: Raiders fans in the concourse were trying to reenact the
- 52:35Speaker 3: Carlson kick at the end and they got mad because
- 52:38Speaker 3: we walked through their plane and they tried fighting us. Yes,
- 52:42Speaker 3: a full circle.
- 52:44Speaker 4: I was thinking about that on the drive this morning.
- 52:47Speaker 3: Make it up.
- 52:48Speaker 1: You can't make it up.
- 52:51Speaker 3: So we're trying to think of the year.
- 52:52Speaker 4: Now we know the year twenty that's funny.
- 52:56Speaker 1: Oh, that's incredible stuff. Man, I'm glad I could be
- 52:58Speaker 1: part of this in a small way. But that's good. Yeah,
- 53:00Speaker 1: so right away, Scooter a big ten K week for
- 53:04Speaker 1: Scooter Chef the Scooter Jonesy Manning Ranger again, like literally
- 53:08Speaker 1: everybody going, Obviously you can't trick me into a Kicker
- 53:10Speaker 1: captain again. You guys are good storytellers, but I ain't
- 53:13Speaker 1: playing this shit up top.
- 53:14Speaker 5: Sorry, Alston the hero big miss last week for the
- 53:17Speaker 5: Broncos Survivor people that it went from minus like four
- 53:22Speaker 5: to fifty or whatever, like minus eighteen fifty late miss.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Cost him the game. Yeah that's good, Yeah, all right?
- 53:29Speaker 1: Anything else hoop? Then you want to add on to
- 53:31Speaker 1: those guys, I gave my story. I don't have too
- 53:33Speaker 1: much else. Aubrey obviously looks better on paper. People have
- 53:35Speaker 1: Dallas winning therefore that's kind of the setup. But we
- 53:39Speaker 1: know what it is. It's a it's a primetime game.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Anything can happen, So thoughts on that one on?
- 53:44Speaker 3: Uh, Kickers are getting.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add Kickers d's If not,
- 53:47Speaker 1: you could take a SA Panduel.
- 53:49Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, nothing else to add I mean, I
- 53:51Speaker 3: you know, Aubrey is in a dome again. Like he
- 53:55Speaker 3: can kick like sixty yarders with with ease. Like just
- 53:59Speaker 3: absolutely love him tonight. And then Carlson and then the
- 54:03Speaker 3: defenses are probably just in a group together. I'm fine
- 54:06Speaker 3: with Carlson, but yeah, I mean again, Carlson a little
- 54:10Speaker 3: above the defense is still.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Before you do FanDuel. You just remind me of something
- 54:13Speaker 1: because you were making fun of it yesterday and I
- 54:15Speaker 1: love this, but we all were like the wind stuff.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, the wind, it's so bad. And we
- 54:19Speaker 1: showed that video from YouTube and everyone laughed at that.
- 54:22Speaker 1: But they show Buddy in warm up sitting like a
- 54:25Speaker 1: sixty five yard and it could have gone seventy. It's like,
- 54:28Speaker 1: oh yeah, the wind, it's so bad. It's like they're
- 54:30Speaker 1: just pumping them through. Like I know, it affected like
- 54:33Speaker 1: one game yesterday. My point being, it's just hilarious. How
- 54:37Speaker 1: you know, pun intended overblown it gets and then just
- 54:40Speaker 1: watch these guys go out. These kickers can just kick
- 54:43Speaker 1: from seventy no problem. Now, it seems.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Exactly for FanDuel. A couple things that definitely stand out
- 54:49Speaker 3: is Gino ten to two. So gino on FanDuel where
- 54:53Speaker 3: quarterbacks have an advantage is the fifth highest price thirteen
- 54:58Speaker 3: to two for Lamb, twelve eight for Dak, twelve to
- 55:02Speaker 3: two for Williams, eleven four for genty, then twelve hundred
- 55:07Speaker 3: dollars all the way down to Gino, so I think
- 55:09Speaker 3: that definitely makes him a strong option over there. Ferguson
- 55:14Speaker 3: is still pretty expensive on on FanDuel eighty two hundred.
- 55:18Speaker 3: He's just six hundred cheaper than Picking, so you know,
- 55:23Speaker 3: it's a pretty tough click. I would say Myers is
- 55:25Speaker 3: still cheap at the forty two price tag, and then
- 55:29Speaker 3: titl your boy Flornoy only twenty six hundred on FanDuel,
- 55:33Speaker 3: so all the way down there really cheap, so he
- 55:36Speaker 3: stands out, I'd say over on FanDuel. And then for
- 55:39Speaker 3: some reason, the Beck guy is forty eight hundred, so
- 55:42Speaker 3: Beck is forty eight like the most expensive of all
- 55:45Speaker 3: the cheap guys, which be a tough click over there.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Thornton forty five sorry three k over on Vander Yeah, yeah,
- 55:54Speaker 1: I was looking at the MVP spot. Yeah, title anything
- 55:56Speaker 1: you see there with that one, and then also should
- 55:59Speaker 1: probably take this question. It came up a couple times.
- 56:01Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting slate to discuss this
- 56:04Speaker 1: because you know, could you go without DAK and without Gino.
- 56:07Speaker 1: I'll let you go FanDuel first, but I'm gonna go
- 56:09Speaker 1: back to this actually.
- 56:11Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of what Hoop said. The thirteen to two
- 56:14Speaker 5: CD will definitely keep his ownership down to an extent,
- 56:17Speaker 5: fits scoring worse over there three k less as Gino,
- 56:20Speaker 5: like Coop said, a really good price, but DAK four
- 56:22Speaker 5: hundred less projects decently better, So I think CD will
- 56:25Speaker 5: be squeezed to an extent. Ferguson's same thing on DraftKings.
- 56:29Speaker 5: Very cheap defenses are I mean both kickers and defense
- 56:34Speaker 5: is a little more expensive, but with them all being
- 56:38Speaker 5: in the exact same range, like defenses on both both
- 56:41Speaker 5: sides relative to kickers will be lower owned. Yeah, the
- 56:44Speaker 5: jeck best price is crazy, and Florinoy has a much
- 56:47Speaker 5: better price on FANDL than DK. Obviously ownership follows though
- 56:50Speaker 5: the showdown. To be honest, like, if I actually like
- 56:53Speaker 5: a play, I almost want him to be more expensive
- 56:55Speaker 5: just to keep the ownership down if he fully pays off.
- 56:58Speaker 5: So it looks like Thornton Blue Moster, Yeah, pretty much
- 57:03Speaker 5: those three. Like if you want to pivot in the
- 57:04Speaker 5: lower tier, people are gonna go Mayor and people are
- 57:06Speaker 5: gonna go FLORINOI. So right in between Mayor and FLORINOI
- 57:10Speaker 5: is Thornton Blue moster. If one of those outscore the
- 57:13Speaker 5: other two, like if they're one of the highest in
- 57:15Speaker 5: the range, then you could be looking at like five
- 57:17Speaker 5: dupes or less today if it is a Mayor or
- 57:20Speaker 5: a Flora night with the chalk, I think that's how
- 57:22Speaker 5: you see the train.
- 57:23Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's how I see it.
- 57:25Speaker 1: I like pickings cheaper than his DraftKings price.
- 57:29Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good call.
- 57:30Speaker 1: At eighty eight hundred and thirteen to two up top.
- 57:32Speaker 1: Nobody wants them on any site. And I just it
- 57:35Speaker 1: is what it is, like, it's you know, it doesn't
- 57:36Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be his day. I just I'm looking
- 57:38Speaker 1: at different angles, and I think that's one that stood
- 57:40Speaker 1: out to me versus everything else that we see on
- 57:43Speaker 1: either side. It's if you can get you a couple
- 57:45Speaker 1: of touchdowns, that'd be great. If he gets you one,
- 57:47Speaker 1: you're you're happy, but like you kind of need something
- 57:49Speaker 1: to happen. Typically especially it's gonna be a higher scoring game,
- 57:51Speaker 1: but we could We've seen it where games like uh
- 57:53Speaker 1: Higgins takes out Chase. We've seen games where Pickens takes
- 57:57Speaker 1: out Lamb, like we've seen games where Dotson takes out age,
- 58:00Speaker 1: so it's like it's it's showdown. Anything can happen. Definitely
- 58:03Speaker 1: have some interest in that. You can still spend your
- 58:04Speaker 1: money a little bit feel good about the overall lineup,
- 58:07Speaker 1: So I think that one's interesting for me. Title any
- 58:10Speaker 1: final thoughts on the slate before you got out.
- 58:11Speaker 5: Of here, Just I always do like I'm yeah, I
- 58:15Speaker 5: always like build my teams right now and look ahead.
- 58:17Speaker 5: I don't submit on my weight for inactives, but right
- 58:20Speaker 5: now I was looking at ninety teams and only seven
- 58:23Speaker 5: of the ninety had no quarterbacks, which I do think
- 58:26Speaker 5: it's it's viable, but it's not my favorite route to go.
- 58:31Speaker 1: What about you, hoop, what do you think?
- 58:35Speaker 3: Well? I just got to, like, you know, talk talk
- 58:38Speaker 3: through it, and what sort of game would that sort
- 58:41Speaker 3: of roster construction be needed? And under you got it right,
- 58:47Speaker 3: It would have to be an under, yeah, it would.
- 58:50Speaker 3: It would have to be an under sort of game.
- 58:52Speaker 3: So you're you're banking on a low scoring sort of
- 58:56Speaker 3: game where you know, maybe both running backs get eighty
- 59:01Speaker 3: to ninety yards a touchdown, pick up some pass. I
- 59:03Speaker 3: mean it is feasible. I mean you can definitely do it.
- 59:06Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean if I'm gonna handbuild a team,
- 59:09Speaker 3: would I do it? Personally? Probably not, because I personally
- 59:13Speaker 3: think this is a high scoring game. I think you're
- 59:14Speaker 3: gonna need at least one quarterback. But you know, I
- 59:18Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised at the end of the night if
- 59:21Speaker 3: neither quarterback was on optimal. So if you liked that path,
- 59:24Speaker 3: for sure, but just make sure everything else is lined
- 59:27Speaker 3: up with it. Yeah.
- 59:28Speaker 1: And it's like you said, too, it goes down the
- 59:31Speaker 1: line if you're starting with that being a thing or
- 59:33Speaker 1: not being a thing. In this case of what you're asking,
- 59:34Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, what does that game look like if
- 59:36Speaker 1: it's an under? Is it? Because we're also seeing the
- 59:39Speaker 1: defense is more involved, is their kickers involved? Is it?
- 59:41Speaker 1: You know, other factors. So definitely just want to build accordingly.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Our man Nick is in the chat this, I probably
- 59:47Speaker 1: do this before I do no no quarterbacks. I'd probably
- 59:51Speaker 1: do this and play it for that angle. I think
- 59:52Speaker 1: that's even if it's in flex like it doesn't it
- 59:54Speaker 1: be like Captain Geno. I'm just saying you could do
- 59:56Speaker 1: it in the flex spot. I think it's definitely a possibility.
- 59:59Speaker 1: Who any other final thoughts? An I'm missing and I
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: want to make sure we hit before we get out
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: of here.
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: Uh No, I mean good luck. I want a high
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: scoring game. I want some excitement. I want some back
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: and forth. That's what I'm hoping for.
- 1:00:11Speaker 6: You want Cowboys and I want over You'll take thirty
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: three Raiders. Yeah, I need the Cowboys in that two
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: point five million Splash contest tonight, so I'll be my
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: number one priority on the night will be the Cowboys winning,
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: and then number two will be having a showdown sweat
- 1:00:29Speaker 6: at some point, but definitely Cowboys winning is going to
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: be number one on the list.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Tired of seeing low scoring. If this game comes out
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: like pee wee football, I'm gonna lose my shit. Yeah,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: everybody wants to see a game with some scoring. For once.
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