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- 0:50Speaker 6: Donkey of the day.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Well, Donkey Today for Wednesday, January seventeenth goes to Republican
- 0:55Speaker 1: presidential candidaten't Form a Governor of South Carolina, Nicki Haley.
- 0:58Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to have a conversation with Nicki Haley.
- 1:02Speaker 1: When I Guess hosted The Daily Show last November, I
- 1:05Speaker 1: had her on. I've also said repeatedly, I personally believe
- 1:08Speaker 1: the Republican Party should move away from Donald Trump and
- 1:10Speaker 1: the ninety one criminal charges to impeachments in the host
- 1:13Speaker 1: of other bs he brings to the table. That's an understatement.
- 1:16Speaker 1: By the way, the GOP needs to move away from him,
- 1:19Speaker 1: get behind Nicki. But they won't because the white supremacist
- 1:22Speaker 1: party doesn't really want to Indian American female representing them.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I don't believe anyway. And the GOP, if you know
- 1:29Speaker 1: they can get Trump.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Back in the office, are so close.
- 1:31Speaker 1: They're really taking over and punishing who they hate. Why
- 1:34Speaker 1: would they give that up now?
- 1:36Speaker 2: But those aren't the reasons we are gathered here today.
- 1:38Speaker 1: We are gathered here today because Nicki Haley is in
- 1:40Speaker 1: the news this week because she is the latest American
- 1:42Speaker 1: politician to say America is not a racist country. Her
- 1:48Speaker 1: statement was, America has never been a racist country, which.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Is complete malarkey. Cap is the kid say, let's listen,
- 1:55Speaker 2: are you a racist party?
- 1:57Speaker 3: We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a
- 1:59Speaker 3: race this country. Our goal is to make sure that
- 2:01Speaker 3: today is better than yesterday. Are we perfect?
- 2:04Speaker 6: No?
- 2:04Speaker 3: I know I face racism when I was growing up,
- 2:07Speaker 3: but I can tell you today is a lot better than.
- 2:09Speaker 2: It was then. Yap.
- 2:12Speaker 1: That wasn't even the question. The question was are you
- 2:14Speaker 1: a racist party? But Nicki said America has never been
- 2:17Speaker 1: a racist country. But then she turned around and said
- 2:19Speaker 1: she has experienced racism. That's because there can be systemic
- 2:23Speaker 1: racism without racist let's discuss. Listen, y'all. I don't know
- 2:30Speaker 1: why we have to say this ever so often. With
- 2:32Speaker 1: a quick reminder, America is a racist country. I think
- 2:34Speaker 1: we forget that racism isn't always explicitly visible.
- 2:39Speaker 2: It's not always you know, conscious.
- 2:41Speaker 1: But in America, what racism absolutely is and always has been,
- 2:45Speaker 1: it's systemic and structural. Remember when the great black philosopher,
- 2:49Speaker 1: father of Blue Ivy said, and you can try to change,
- 2:52Speaker 1: but that's just the top layer.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Man.
- 2:53Speaker 1: You was who you was for you got here. That's America,
- 2:56Speaker 1: regardless of how the top layer changes. Doesn't matter if
- 2:59Speaker 1: Oprah is the richest woman in the world, of Barack
- 3:01Speaker 1: Obama was president, that's just top layer of stuff, the root,
- 3:04Speaker 1: the foundation of this country. It's systemic and structural racism.
- 3:07Speaker 1: It's deeply embedded in systems, laws, written, the unwritten policies,
- 3:12Speaker 1: these racist practices and beliefs that produce and perpetuate widespread
- 3:16Speaker 1: unfair treatment and oppression of people who are at the
- 3:19Speaker 1: bottom of this cast system in America. Okay, and those
- 3:22Speaker 1: people are black, brown. It is what it is. Why
- 3:25Speaker 1: do we act like this isn't a thing? Okay? America
- 3:29Speaker 1: was never a racist country. How many examples do you
- 3:31Speaker 1: need right now? We an't even got to, you know,
- 3:33Speaker 1: getting the Delairean and go back to slavery or the
- 3:36Speaker 1: Jim Crow South. We can talk about residential segregation right now.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Unfair lending practices and other barriers, the home ownership. We
- 3:42Speaker 1: could talk about, you know, the unfair barriers, the accumulating
- 3:46Speaker 1: wealth and environmental injustices, bias policing and sentencing a black
- 3:50Speaker 1: men and black boys, voter suppression policies. There's a quote,
- 3:53Speaker 1: and the quote is those who cannot remember the past
- 3:56Speaker 1: are condemned to repeat it. And when people say things
- 3:58Speaker 1: like America is not a racist country, has never been
- 4:00Speaker 1: a racist country, that's them trying to not remember the past.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And that is exactly why systemic racism continues to permeate
- 4:08Speaker 1: all sectors and areas of society. Okay, saying things like
- 4:12Speaker 1: America is not a racist country or America has never
- 4:15Speaker 1: been a racist country is why we have never truly
- 4:17Speaker 1: fixed systemic racism, because acknowledging the existence systemic racism is
- 4:22Speaker 1: the first step. All Right, you can't hear what you
- 4:24Speaker 1: don't reveal, and we're not going to ever heal because
- 4:26Speaker 1: there is not a politician who truly.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Wants to be honest about it.
- 4:29Speaker 1: This isn't the first time I've given the biggest heat
- 4:32Speaker 1: heart of someone for making these types of statements.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no.
- 4:35Speaker 1: See back in twenty twenty one, just three short years ago,
- 4:39Speaker 1: my South Carolina Brethren, Senator Tim Scott delivered the GOP
- 4:42Speaker 1: response to Biden's first joint address in Congress, and he
- 4:47Speaker 1: said this.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Hear me, clearly, America is not a racist country.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Camp Well, that statement, for the next few days caused
- 4:57Speaker 1: the media to ask every person of cost okay, every
- 5:01Speaker 1: black and brown person who was in government whether or
- 5:03Speaker 1: not they thought America was a racist country. They asked,
- 5:07Speaker 1: you know, more of my South Carolina brethren, my og
- 5:09Speaker 1: Jim Clyburn. I love Jim cliber and I hope this
- 5:11Speaker 1: doesn't get my invite to Jim Clyburn's world famous fish
- 5:15Speaker 1: friary boat this year.
- 5:16Speaker 2: But they asked my og and he said.
- 5:17Speaker 5: This a racist country would never elect of Barack Obama
- 5:21Speaker 5: president or Kamala Harris vice president. So we should stop
- 5:27Speaker 5: arguing about whether or not this is a racist country.
- 5:30Speaker 5: It is not.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Cap.
- 5:34Speaker 1: They also have Vice President Kamala Harris, is America a
- 5:36Speaker 1: racist country?
- 5:37Speaker 7: And she had this to say, well, first of all,
- 5:39Speaker 7: now I don't think America is a racist country, but
- 5:41Speaker 7: we also do have to speak truth about the history
- 5:44Speaker 7: of racism in our country and its existence today.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Cap Nicki Haley Republican, Tim Scott, Republican, Jim Clyburn, Democrat,
- 5:53Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, Democrat, all saying America is not, or as
- 5:56Speaker 1: Nicki said, never has been a racist country. Every single
- 5:59Speaker 1: one one of those statements is just simply not true
- 6:03Speaker 1: on any level.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Absolute falsehoods Okay.
- 6:05Speaker 1: The Vice President Kamala Harris said America is not a
- 6:07Speaker 1: racist country, but the nation must speak the truth about
- 6:10Speaker 1: his history with racism in this country. Speaking the truth
- 6:13Speaker 1: about the history of racism in this country is acknowledging that, yes, America,
- 6:16Speaker 1: systemically and structurally is a racist country. Okay, saying this
- 6:20Speaker 1: country isn't racist because they elected President Obama and you
- 6:23Speaker 1: know Vice President Kamala Haras is not accurate. Everybody in
- 6:26Speaker 1: this country isn't racist. Okay, I believe people aren't inherently racist,
- 6:30Speaker 1: but once again, this country, this system is rooted in
- 6:34Speaker 1: structural and systemic racism. The irony of og Jim Clydburne statements.
- 6:38Speaker 1: They are actively trying to prevent us from ever having
- 6:41Speaker 1: another President Obama now through voter suppression. And we can't
- 6:45Speaker 1: even begin to discuss the impact of voter suppression on
- 6:48Speaker 1: black communities. We're talking about, guess what, America being racist.
- 6:53Speaker 1: And we're not even gonna get into the electoral colleges
- 6:55Speaker 1: racist origins.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not smart enough to discuss that.
- 6:57Speaker 1: But once again, you can't talk about that without talking
- 7:00Speaker 1: about America being a racist country.
- 7:01Speaker 2: All right, Listen, here's what it is.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Regardless of party, nobody talks about race, honestly, because when
- 7:06Speaker 1: it comes to Republicans, racism is part of the GOP's
- 7:09Speaker 1: ideological DNA. And when it comes to Democrats, they just
- 7:12Speaker 1: get they just shook the death. That's why I call
- 7:14Speaker 1: them calvics. Okay, Democrats advocate for anti racist policies but
- 7:18Speaker 1: then turn around and say America is not a racist country.
- 7:20Speaker 2: It's stupid and all.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Because they are afraid to turn off hypothetical, imaginary swing voters.
- 7:25Speaker 1: This is why people think Democrats are full of it,
- 7:28Speaker 1: because when Republicans are telling their base their truth all
- 7:31Speaker 1: the time and Democrats are dancing around okay everything, Republicans
- 7:35Speaker 1: look honest and Democrats look like lias.
- 7:37Speaker 2: I know it's strange, but that's.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Why knowing how to communicate is important, and you will
- 7:41Speaker 1: never win people over looking like you lying. Okay, Republicans
- 7:45Speaker 1: are more honest with their lives than Democrats are about
- 7:48Speaker 1: their truth. I repeat, Republicans are more honest with their
- 7:51Speaker 1: lives than Democrats are with their truth. Democrats, in regard
- 7:54Speaker 1: to the racism and a lot of other things, but
- 7:56Speaker 1: in regard to racism, especially in light of what Nikki
- 7:59Speaker 1: Hally just said, Dems need to lean into some difficult,
- 8:02Speaker 1: honest conversations about racing this country. You will win some
- 8:05Speaker 1: people over and you will lose some people, but anything
- 8:08Speaker 1: is better than what y'all are doing right now. Okay,
- 8:10Speaker 1: But I don't want to make this about dims because,
- 8:12Speaker 1: as I said earlier, regardless of party, no politician has
- 8:15Speaker 1: conversations about race honestly in this country. But one more
- 8:20Speaker 1: thing for Democrats, all Right, you can't lay out all
- 8:22Speaker 1: these examples of systemic racism and then turn around and
- 8:25Speaker 1: say America isn't a racist country.
- 8:26Speaker 2: You just dismissed your own position. Okay.
- 8:28Speaker 1: If the Democratic Party was unified and they all collectively
- 8:31Speaker 1: said America is a racist country and it's our job
- 8:34Speaker 1: to fix it, it wouldn't be an issue, and it
- 8:36Speaker 1: would be honest.
- 8:37Speaker 2: If folks are scared to be honest.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Okay, Folks are scared to be honest because they know
- 8:41Speaker 1: nobody in the party will have their back. And if
- 8:44Speaker 1: you were honest, you would really show the glaring difference
- 8:46Speaker 1: between yourself and Republicans. Okay, in regard to the racism.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But in regard to the racism, you all are saying
- 8:53Speaker 1: the same thing, and that is deeply disappointing. It is
- 8:56Speaker 1: deeply disappointing to listen to all of these people try
- 8:59Speaker 1: to either deny or oversimplify racism. Okay, to either deny
- 9:05Speaker 1: or oversimplify America being a racist country, or, in the
- 9:08Speaker 1: case of Nikki Haley, saying America was never a racist
- 9:12Speaker 1: country to begin with. Please give Nicki Haley the biggest
- 9:15Speaker 1: he huh m, all right, well, thank you for the
- 9:22Speaker 1: donkey today.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Yes it did.
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- 10:25Speaker 1: I want I encourage everybody to go listen to that
- 10:27Speaker 1: episode of the Pivot with uh, you know, Dad's Bryant,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but you know, I really just want to know when
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- 10:44Speaker 4: What do you feel when you hear those words? I
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