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Fair Territory: Dodgers-Brewers NLCS preview, Guards force Game 5, Will Aaron Boone be back in '27? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a special Friday edition of Fair Territory.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing the show today because it's an off day
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  Speaker 1: in the National League and I am on the National
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  Speaker 1: League Championship Series after this. But we have an actual
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  Speaker 1: Game 5 to talk about, don't we, Alana?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give the Guardians credit, Ken. Good to be with
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  Speaker 3: you on this Friday, as always. Good to be with you, certainly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy that it's going to Game 5. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's better for baseball.
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  Speaker 4: It's exciting. And kudos to the Guardians. How'd they get
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  Speaker 4: it done?
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  Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez was one part of it, but it was
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  Speaker 1: a team thing. And really, the White Sox pitching has
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  Speaker 1: kind of melted down in the last two games. 17
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  Speaker 1: walks in the two. They've leaned so hard on their
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  Speaker 1: bullpen all year. They don't really have a rotation, and
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  Speaker 1: it seems to be catching up with them. Now, the
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: interesting thing here is that for game five, the White
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Sox actually might be in decent shape. Now, remember, that's
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  Speaker 1: the off day today, so that's going to help both teams.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, the Guardians used eight pitchers, the White Sox seven.
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  Speaker 1: But as I said, the White Sox do have a
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  Speaker 1: quality starter in reserve. Their perhaps only quality starter, Sean Burk,
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  Speaker 1: who will either start Game 5 or be a bulk
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  Speaker 1: guy behind an opener. Now, I was in love with
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  Speaker 1: what the Guardians were doing last night until I saw
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  Speaker 1: Gavin Williams stroll out of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: I understood it. You had to win the game. There's
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  Speaker 2: no question about it. But it would have been a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Cleaner if they didn't need him for 18 pitches after
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  Speaker 1: Cade Smith threw 31. So we'll see how Gavin Williams does.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to pitch in a bulk role
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday as well. But It's a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: when you have to throw in the bullpen. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's his throw day and fans do not seem to
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  Speaker 1: understand this. When you throw in a game, a high
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  Speaker 1: stress playoff game, it's a heck of a lot different
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  Speaker 1: than throwing your bullpen session. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting game five. It's going to be your
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  Speaker 1: basic battle or war of attrition. And as Zach Meisel
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  Speaker 1: of The Athletic put it, this series has been.
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  Speaker 2: One of bullpen dependent lawlessness. Sometimes I wish I could
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  Speaker 2: write like Zach. He's really good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a great line. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Bullpen dependent lawlessness. A lot of love that. Good for
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  Speaker 3: the Guardians. Good for the White Sox. It's been a
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  Speaker 3: really fun time. Are you surprised, though, Ken, in terms
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  Speaker 3: of deadline acquisitions, I guess, for the Guardians? Because is
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  Speaker 3: the reason you and I were talking about this earlier,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps they didn't really go for the gusto because the
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  Speaker 3: American League this season a little bit more down than
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  Speaker 3: years past?
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  Speaker 2: They were more aggressive than usual, Alana. You're right. And
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  Speaker 2: they were more aggressive in part Because they saw an opening.
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  Speaker 2: They saw an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what they did was acquire Joe Adele, Nathaniel Lowe,
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  Speaker 1: Foster Griffin. All have played major roles for them down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch and in this series as well. And I
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  Speaker 1: know they have the 30th ranked payroll, but for them,
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  Speaker 1: this was a departure in this particular circumstance.
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  Speaker 2: The deadline this year. And right now, I sort of
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  Speaker 2: love where they are because obviously they're going home.
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  Speaker 1: And while I do worry about their pitching for Saturday's game,
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  Speaker 1: they will have the momentum going forward, at least until
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  Speaker 1: the pitches are thrown, right? So we'll see what happens here.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing that the White Sox had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: clinch a postseason series at home for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in 120 years, two cracks at it, and didn't get
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  Speaker 1: it done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 1906, the last time that that happened. All right,
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  Speaker 3: time now for On Deck, presented by the Fox 1 app.
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  Speaker 3: We appreciate Fox 1 being a partner with us this postseason. Ken,
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  Speaker 3: what is the significance of the Brewers having home field
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  Speaker 3: in this series? It didn't seem to matter last year.
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  Speaker 2: Brewers, of course, finished with the best record in the
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  Speaker 2: National League.
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  Speaker 1: That is why they will have home field advantage against
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers for, as you mentioned, Alana, the second straight year.
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  Speaker 2: You remember what happened last year? The Brewers got swept
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  Speaker 2: in four games. Why did they get swept in four games?
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  Speaker 1: Because the Dodgers pitching was at a level that they
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  Speaker 1: had not reached even at any point during.
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  Speaker 2: The regular season.
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  Speaker 1: It was incredible what the Dodgers did from a pitching
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  Speaker 1: standpoint in that series. My fear for the Brewers here
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  Speaker 1: is that the same thing could happen again. If Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: had pushed the Dodgers to a game five, which they
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  Speaker 1: came fairly close to doing, then we would have seen
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  Speaker 1: Scooble pitch game five and the series open with Blake Snell,
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  Speaker 1: Scooble getting pushed back to three and seven. What we
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  Speaker 1: have now is Scooble and Yamamoto lined up for one
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  Speaker 1: and two and, of course, six and five and six
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 2: So one, two, five, six.
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  Speaker 1: Scooble and Yamamoto will start at least four of these
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  Speaker 1: games and could be available in seven in relief if
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  Speaker 1: it goes that far. The Brewers need to win the
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  Speaker 1: Miz games, starting with the opening game, and that is,
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  Speaker 1: of course, when he will face Scooble. So while the
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  Speaker 1: Brewers are at home, and of course it's always good
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  Speaker 1: to be at home, it's who pitches that's going to
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  Speaker 1: decide this thing, who pitches really well. And you have
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  Speaker 1: to give the Dodgers the edge in starting pitching.
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  Speaker 2: I love Logan Henderson.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be matched up with Yamamoto in two, and that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a matchup that I would not concede
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  Speaker 1: at all if I'm thinking about this game.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to be difficult.
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  Speaker 1: The pitching edge that the Dodgers have, at least with
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  Speaker 1: those two guys on the mound, Skubal and Yamamoto, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about Snell and I don't know about Glasnow,
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  Speaker 1: but those two guys, they're really good.
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  Speaker 4: They are really good.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, we know that the Miz, Jacob Mizorowski,
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  Speaker 3: is also a very good pitcher, Ken. Naturally, he was
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  Speaker 3: an all-star this year. He throws a billion miles an hour.
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  Speaker 3: And you mentioned Logan Henderson, not to take anything away
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  Speaker 3: from him. But if the Dodgers are able to get
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  Speaker 3: to Jacob Mizorowski, truly what else is in the Brewers' arsenal?
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  Speaker 3: I would think that that's a massive win if you
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  Speaker 3: could win a game started by Jacob Mizorowski.
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  Speaker 1: It is, but the Brewers have a terrific bullpen, and
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  Speaker 1: they find a way to get things done.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: And you look at in the bullpen, Abner and Uribe,
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  Speaker 1: Gasser pitched really well for them in this series. And
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  Speaker 1: as a starter, they have ways to go. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: Dustin May gives them something better.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't happened so far for them. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: so much worried about their pitching. They figure out their pitching,
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  Speaker 1: and they've got a really good program. Much like Tampa Bay, they–
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  Speaker 1: get the most out of their pitching, and the same
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  Speaker 1: with Cleveland. The thing that these three low payroll teams
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  Speaker 1: have in common, besides winning a lot in the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: is they are quite advanced with how they approach pitching,
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  Speaker 1: instruct pitching, and get the most out of pitching.
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  Speaker 2: So the Brewers will.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out, even though their arms are not as
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  Speaker 1: well-paid or as illustrious as the Dodgers. I'm not so
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  Speaker 1: much worried about that. I'm more worried about them hitting
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  Speaker 1: what the Dodgers have.
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  Speaker 3: Ken, do you think this series, if it's going to
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  Speaker 3: boil down to anything perhaps, is the Brewers' ability, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's the starting staff or the bullpen, the ability to
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  Speaker 3: keep the Dodgers in the ballpark? Now, the Dodgers so
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  Speaker 3: far this postseason have scored 14 runs. All but three
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  Speaker 3: of those runs have come via the long ball. They've
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  Speaker 3: batted 203 with a 264 on-base percentage.
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  Speaker 4: Keep them in the park? Is that the key?
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  Speaker 1: It's one key for sure, and... It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: really interesting, and we'll get to Otani in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But what is he going to be here? And what
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  Speaker 1: kind of factor will he be? Will Smith has struggled.
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  Speaker 1: But they've gotten some really good things that have happened.
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  Speaker 2: Tucker, of course, reviving. Mookie Betts reviving. Freeman hitting two
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  Speaker 2: home runs. Max Muncy.
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  Speaker 1: Kike Hernandez. All of these things offensively have been good. But, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's been an overly reliant home run offense. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: hear it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Home runs do win in the postseason. We love contact.
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  Speaker 2: We love seeing the Rays and the Brewers go at
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  Speaker 2: it the way they do. But you do need homers,
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  Speaker 2: and you can win.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much with solely homers. The Dodgers have done that,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to need more offense. You just cited
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  Speaker 1: some statistics that are rather negative in what they did
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  Speaker 1: against Atlanta, a team with a supposedly challenged pitching staff.
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  Speaker 1: So that is going to be really interesting. Is the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers offense, which is coming on this year, is it
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  Speaker 1: going to be in its kind of lesser mode in this?
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  Speaker 1: Or will it be what we sort of hinted at
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  Speaker 1: or sort of started to see in the division series?
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  Speaker 3: And it's kind of funny, too, because the Dodgers guys
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  Speaker 3: that they weren't getting a lot from offensively in the
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  Speaker 3: regular season, like the Andy Pajas of the world, the
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, certainly didn't. have shown up big in this
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  Speaker 3: division series so far. As a NLCS thought exercise, Ken,
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  Speaker 3: if you ranked the seven best position players in this
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  Speaker 3: series right now, how many of them would be Brewers
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  Speaker 3: in your mind? Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I would make the case for Churrio for sure. Fastest
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  Speaker 1: hands in the game, and you cannot get a fastball
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  Speaker 1: by that dude.
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  Speaker 2: I know he was only.
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  Speaker 1: Three for 16 in the DS, but the hit was
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  Speaker 1: the two-run single, the walk-off.
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  Speaker 2: In game two, I believe it was. So, He's one.
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  Speaker 2: He's in there for me.
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  Speaker 1: Contreras, you can argue as well, the catcher. He might
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  Speaker 1: be one of the better position players as well if
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  Speaker 1: you want to rank the top seven. The Dodgers have
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  Speaker 1: the bigger names. They have the more accomplished players. And
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  Speaker 1: in some cases, some guys doing pretty well right now.
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  Speaker 1: We mentioned Tucker and Mookie. Dave Roberts said that Mookie
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  Speaker 1: Betts looks the best he has in the postseason. Just
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  Speaker 1: the look on his face since 2020. That said, that
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  Speaker 1: is not a way to look at this. Because the
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  Speaker 1: Brewers are a team that is greater than the sum
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  Speaker 1: of its parts. Now, the parts are good. They're better
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  Speaker 1: than maybe people give them credit for. But the way
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  Speaker 1: they play and the way they have a knack for
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  Speaker 1: finding ways to win. that transcends maybe each positional battle
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  Speaker 1: or you want to call it.
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  Speaker 2: Those positional battles you see.
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  Speaker 1: Websites like mine and newspapers rank all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the better third baseman?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: But what the Brewers do and the way they play
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  Speaker 1: and their defense is better than the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: That is why they win games, because they play a
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  Speaker 2: team game and they play a clean game, for the
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  Speaker 2: most part. Didn't always against the Padres.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't look at it like that, Alana, which
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  Speaker 1: position players are the best ones on the field, because
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  Speaker 1: who knows? Maybe Sal Freelick does something big. Maybe Bryce
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Terang does something big. Cooper Pratt, even the kid.
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  Speaker 2: There's a number of ways Yelich looked revived in the DS.
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  Speaker 2: There are a number of ways the Brewers can beat you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, their newly appointed captain, Christian Yelich. He might be
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit older, but he is still a good
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  Speaker 3: professional at bat and not an easy out, certainly. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Shohei Otani, Ken, has become more of an easy out.
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  Speaker 3: And I only say that just because we're so used
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  Speaker 3: to Shohei exceeding any expectation. But he hasn't been the
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  Speaker 3: same since he's been hurt. Can Shohei Otani get back
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  Speaker 3: to being who he is? So far in the series,
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  Speaker 3: two for 13, two walks, and so far in what
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  Speaker 3: he's done, this postseason?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the big questions, right?
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  Speaker 1: And there's no way to answer that question right now,
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  Speaker 1: but the Dodgers are going to keep running him out there.
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  Speaker 1: Now they dropped him to fifth in game three, batted
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  Speaker 1: him fourth in game four. They're toying with the lineup
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, trying to figure out the best combination
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  Speaker 1: and you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to bury him. You don't want to bat him
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  Speaker 2: eighth the way Joe Torrey did with Alex Rodriguez one year.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, he's not giving them enough
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: And the two hits were singles. He did walk, steal
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  Speaker 2: a base score, run in Game 4.
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  Speaker 1: It was encouraging at least to see him kind of
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  Speaker 1: moving around better, but he is not.
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  Speaker 2: The same at the plate right now. Now, the thing
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  Speaker 2: you will hear.
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  Speaker 1: From everyone in the postseason who's talking about a struggling hitter, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's only one swing away.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. He might only be one swing away, but
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  Speaker 2: we're still waiting for it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, now Edwin Diaz seems like he's regained some of
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  Speaker 3: his composure. Some of the stuff is back. We noticed it, Ken,
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  Speaker 3: at the last week of the regular season. He's been
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  Speaker 3: good in the times that he's been out there so
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  Speaker 3: far in the postseason. How do you think that affects
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers' bullpen thinking if they can truly count on
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  Speaker 3: him as their ninth inning guy?
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  Speaker 2: Helps it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And Andrew Friedman's been saying for a while now that
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  Speaker 1: this is the best pitching staff they've taken into a postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Now that Diaz is doing this, I would agree. And remember,
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  Speaker 1: in 24, they had to lean on their bullpen. In 25,
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  Speaker 1: they leaned on their starters. And now it seems they
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  Speaker 1: have the best of both worlds. Really great rotation, of course,
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  Speaker 1: and a quality bullpen. So if Diaz can close, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of solves the problem. And yet they don't have
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  Speaker 1: to run him out in the ninth inning all the time.
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  Speaker 1: If they see a pocket in the eighth inning that
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: they prefer, sure, you can do that and close with
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Tanner Scott. You can even close with Evan Phillips if
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to. So the fact that he's back and
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: he looks like he is back in classic Edwin Diaz form,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big boost for the Dodgers. And as I said,
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers bullpen is really good, too. Maybe not Padres level,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not even Dodgers level right now. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, with McGill and Uribe and Ashby and the
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  Speaker 1: guys that they run out there, that's an impressive group
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 4: I am really looking forward to the series.
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• 14:16
  Speaker 3: All right, it is time now for Grill and Ken.
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  Speaker 3: Get those questions into the chat, your opportunity to ask
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  Speaker 3: Ken what is on your mind.
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  Speaker 4: All right, here's one in terms of the Rays.
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  Speaker 3: Aside from Junior Caminero, Ken, which Rays hitter should casual
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: fans know more about?
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Who are we missing? Who are we not paying attention to?
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I could probably name five guys, maybe even more, but
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I'll go with Victor Mesa Jr.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Now, Victor Mesa Jr., is a guy the Rays picked
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  Speaker 2: up in February in a.
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  Speaker 1: Minor trade, it seemed at the time, with the Marlins.
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  Speaker 1: And Will Salmon of The Athletic, my colleague there, wrote
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: a terrific story yesterday. I advise people to read it.
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  Speaker 1: About five key pickups for the Rays, under-the-radar pickups.
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  Speaker 2: Victor Mesa Jr. was one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Now, here's a guy that they basically acquired for outfield depth.
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  Speaker 2: They were thin at the time.
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  Speaker 1: And yet, he has come on this season, 14 home runs,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: 825 OPS and 262 plate appearances. In the DS, he
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: was two for 10 with a homer. He is a
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: dynamic player. He is a guy that has a great
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: knowledge of the game. He's the son of a former
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: big time star in Cuba, the brother of a guy
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: who was a better prospect or considered a better prospect
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  Speaker 1: than him.
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  Speaker 2: Victor Victor Mesa. But Victor Mesa Jr.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: if not quite a star yet, certainly has come into
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: his own. And it's been really impressive to see As always,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the Rays getting the most out of players that maybe
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: other teams didn't see in the same way. And you
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: talk about the quality of front offices and how teams
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: go about it. They're not perfect. They don't make every
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: great move. Remember, they traded Joe Ryan for Nelson Cruz.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: They've made some other moves as well that didn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like everything works for them. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, and I'll mention Curtis Meade for Christopher Sanchez.
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  Speaker 2: That was another one that didn't work out. At the
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  Speaker 2: same time, They get more right than they don't. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: they get a lot right on the margins. And Victor
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Mesa Jr. was one of them. And this is one
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: reason why they are who they are and where they
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: are today.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Elisheva Jones wants to know this in regards to the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: New York Yankees. Ken, is Erin Boone going to be
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: the Yankees manager next year? Certainly she's not the only
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: one that has this question.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: No, she's not. And there are a lot of people
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: wondering that. And the answer seems to be yes. Brian Cashman,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the general manager.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Spoke before game three of the division series against the
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Rays and basically endorsed Boone for another year. And of course,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the Yankees lost game three. The only team not to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: win a game in the division series this year was
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: the New York Yankees. Now, the better question is, should
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Boone be back? And that's a tough one because arguably
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: in the regular season, This was one of his better jobs,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: maybe his best job. Remember, they didn't have Judge. They
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: were missing Cole and Freed and Rodon for lengthy periods.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And yet they still won 93 games, still beat the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Red Sox in the wildcard round. From all of that,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: all of those perspectives, you'd say Aaron Boone should be back.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: At the same time, I understand the frustration of Yankee
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: fans who say, hey.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: We're doing the same thing every year. What are we doing?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Let's change something up, whether it's Cashman, Boone, both.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And that is a fair point. And at some.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Point in a team's evolution, in a team's existence, there
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: are times when you have to ask, OK, we like
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: what we have, but it's not really working the way
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we want.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Let's try something different. And if the Yankees do indeed
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: bring back Boone.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: My question will be, OK, how are you going to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: get back to where you were this year if you
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: can even do that?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And how do you get better? That's the bigger question.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: How do you get better if the New York Yankees, and.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I don't see them having an answer to that, a
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Ken, do you think, or are you surprised, and maybe
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: surprised isn't the right phrase, but are you surprised, I guess,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: that Hal is as loyal as he is and consistent
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: as he is with the front office stuff, considering how
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: volatile and what a revolving door his dad had?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Well, if you remember, with his dad, the Yankees had
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: 15 managers in 20 years.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: That was a little nuts. That was over the top.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It was way much.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But, yes, I am a little surprised. Not that he's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the son of George Steinbrenner acting like this. People are
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: going to be different. Many of us are different than
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: our fathers or mothers or whatever. But what I'm surprised
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: is how long they've been willing to tolerate the same
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: thing happening all the time. And the real problem for
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, Aaron Judge, 35 next year.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Garrett Cole not getting any younger. They're an older group
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: with their core young.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And the window for them to win a World Series
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: might already have passed.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So that is a problem. And I don't know, again,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: how they fix it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: How do they get younger and more athletic and better
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: defensively overnight?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Not going to happen.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the biggest thing. Better defensively, more fundamental. That
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: certainly doesn't happen overnight. That has to be a philosophy shift. Ken,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: this is not a question, but more of a comment.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Joe Techno, props to Ken. We're still keeping the bow
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: tie on in the heat. How hot was it down there?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Cause it's even hotter on the field.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It was very hot, but I will say this. The
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: people at Fox found me a place that was in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the shade. Normally at Dodger stadium in Alani, I sit
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: where you used to sit right next to the dugout
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: at Dodger stadium.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And it's when the sun is out, it's smoking.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: If I would have had to have sat there, it
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: would have been a problem, but they found me a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: place in the other dugout, kind.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Of adjoining where there was shade. It was fantastic.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Because I take my jacket off when I'm not doing interviews.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: And the next day was a night game or at
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: least a five o'clock game. So it was totally fine.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So I don't really deserve props. I'll be deserving props
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: if it gets cold and I don't wilt because I'm.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Not doing the cold. Nor am I.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I remember 2018 when the Dodgers were playing the Red
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Sox in that Red Sox World Series championship.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, I don't care who wins. Kidding. But
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I was like, can we just please go back to L.A.?
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I was freezing to death. All right, guys.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Appreciate the questions as always. We are crowning our dudes
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and dorks of the week next.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I'm the dude. So that's what you call me.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You heard him. He's the dude. That's what you call him. Ken,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: who is your dude of the week?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Patrick Bailey, Cleveland Guardians catcher.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Now, if you remember, Patrick Bailey was let go by
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the Giants in a trade to the Guardians in May.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Giants didn't like that he didn't really hit. They didn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like some of the defensive things as well, even though
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he's considered one of the best defensive catchers in the game.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The Guardians were overjoyed to get Bailey, who is kind
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of like Austin Hedges, a great Defender and not a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: great hitter. Well, since joining the Guardians, he's been almost
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a league average hitter. And last night, when the season
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: was on the line, he produced in a big way.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Pinch hit home run in the fifth inning off Eric Fetty.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: That scored the Guardians' first run. And then a tie-breaking
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: RBI single off the previously invincible Grant Taylor in the sixth.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Patrick Bailey, huge night. And let's see, maybe Austin Hedges
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: will be the hero of Game 5.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Guardians, just the fifth team in Major League
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Baseball history, Ken, to score nine plus runs in consecutive
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: postseason games when facing elimination. And that is why the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Guardians are my dudes of the week. We talked so
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: much coming into this series, of course, about how fun
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the White Sox have been to watch.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And they certainly are. It's a group of kids. Basically,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: it's almost like watching a college baseball team.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Opportunity to clinch at home for the first time in
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: 120 years. Going back to the blackout, nobody really gave
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the Guardians much chance because it was said that they
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: certainly couldn't hit. And by and large, they have not
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: been able to hit. But they've been able to force
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the issue and force a game five back in Cleveland,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: making it a very entertaining series. When their backs were
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: against the wall, congratulations to the Guardians. You guys are
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: my dudes of the week. All right, time now for.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Dork of the week.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: The complete opposite of the Guardians. Who is your dork
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of the weekend?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Baltimore Orioles.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Not only are we not seeing them in the playoffs,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we got the news this week that they laid off
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: 16 people, including the people who played the roles of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the Oriole Bird and Mr.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Splash. Mr. Splash is the person who sprays people with
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: water out in the bleachers. Now, I would suggest.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that the Orioles have bigger problems than the person playing
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the Oriole bird and Mr.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Splash.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And their fans might suggest that the big problem is
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the way the team is run, that Mike Elias has
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not produced a team that has won a playoff game yet.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So when you are letting people like this go as
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a downsizing that included 16 people in all, and you're
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: not doing anything when baseball operations, other than letting people
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: go there too, It's not a great look.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Orioles, dorks of the week.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it brings me back to the comment that we
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: had in the chat a couple of weeks ago. Does
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Mike Elias need to burn down the warehouse in order
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: for him to be on the hot seat? It appears
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: as such, but I'm sure. Oriole Bird had a lot
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to do with runners in scoring position, Ken. All right,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: my dork of the week, the Yankee fan that continues,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yankee fans in general, or any fan in general that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: continues to reach over and interfere with.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: A ball in play.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Now, I do understand the absolute instinctiveness or the instinct
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to go for a ball. But this obviously is going
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: to hurt your team. It did hurt the team. We
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: don't know exactly where the ball was going to land.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I do believe George Lombard Jr.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Would have scored anyway.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I think the umpires did a phenomenal job in terms
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: of reviewing that and doing what they were supposed to
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: do and putting Volpe back on second. But Yankee fans,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: fans in general, please stop interfering. And didn't you tell
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: me earlier today, Ken, that it was a very special
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: 30th anniversary of something that happened like this to the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Toronto Blue Jays?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: A very special anniversary and happy anniversary to those who
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: observed the Jeffrey Mayer game. We talked about it in
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Inside Dish on Monday, game one of the 1996 ALCS.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Mayer, then a 12-year-old kid, reaches over the right
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: field wall, home run by Derek Jeter. It should have
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: been fan interference.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It wasn't. So what happened the other night was a
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: little bit of karma.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Little bit of karma.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: We will never forget, of course, the Steve Bartman situation.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And last year, or a couple years ago, with the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Yankees fans, with Mookie Betts, you know, leaning over, grabbing
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: his wrist, all of those silliness.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Stop it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Stop it, stop it, stop it. All right, guys, that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: going to do it for us. Foul territory is coming
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: up next. AJ Pierzynski is probably not too happy.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: And Eric Kratz, Max Muncy is on the show, Kurt
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Hogue as well. The Fair Territory schedule, it's moving around
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Ken is very busy, obviously, so we
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: will be back next week. Have a great weekend. Looking
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