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Revenge Is A Meal Best Served Cold (Part Two) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: What's good, y'all. Early in the morning on Thursday. I
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  Speaker 1: just had a little small announcement to make. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's an announcement. HM, I'm not sure if
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: this is an announcement. This is me reaching out to
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  Speaker 1: the So Shameless community to help support one of our members.
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  Speaker 1: Our friend Trave, has been in the hospital. As a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, Trav has been afflicted since I met him.
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  Speaker 1: He's always had I think issues. Let me see he wrote.
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  Speaker 1: He actually wrote me something.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find it.
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  Speaker 1: If y'all don't mind, I'll read the message.
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  Speaker 2: Right. What's good, O G. Hope you're doing well.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to reach out to let you know
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  Speaker 1: I received a kidney. First of all, fire fire like yo.
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  Speaker 1: Mayb be people on these lists for mad long waiting
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  Speaker 1: hoping right, And I only know that because I used
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  Speaker 1: to watch a grace that of me, and they would
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  Speaker 1: fly to like another state to go get the shit
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  Speaker 1: and put it in a little thing and fly it back.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes a person didn't make it. Sometimes while waiting
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  Speaker 1: for these things, the person don't make it because there's
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  Speaker 1: such a long list and red tape or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: then matching sometimes the shits don't match or whatever. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: your body rejects it. Whatever it may be. So very
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  Speaker 1: fire that Trav received a kidney. He said, he had
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  Speaker 1: surgery yesterday and recovering.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I need you all to understand what that means.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I had surgery yesterday and he's texting me.
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  Speaker 1: That's urgent. Without the sound of urgency, it feels urgent
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  Speaker 1: now from what I believe, I think Trav had two jobs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I know he had one this whole time, and he'd
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  Speaker 1: be in and out of the hospital going to work.
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  Speaker 1: He's very family oriented, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: to be waking up in your recovery bed after a surgery,
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  Speaker 1: your skin staple, your body mending, and you're reaching out.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to Trapping at least a year, so
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  Speaker 1: he's reaching out. This journey for me, he says, has
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  Speaker 1: been directly tied to So Shameless. I found y'all in
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  Speaker 1: the hospital bed, many hospitalizations, sicknesses, COVID almost taking me out.
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  Speaker 1: I always turned to So Shameless for it.
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  Speaker 2: Pick me up.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be forever grateful for you being there for me
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  Speaker 1: and calling me a friend. He said a few other things.
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  Speaker 1: But in the end of it, he said, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't mind, we have a goal to fund me because
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to be out of work for three to
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  Speaker 1: six months. If you could share it, I'd appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: And this is my attempt to share it. I've shared
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  Speaker 1: it on social media. But for me sharing things on
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  Speaker 1: social media, you know, somebody reached out to me. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to white Girl. She reached out to me, and
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  Speaker 1: she was like, she's not why, She just really like scared.
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna find me the summer. But she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just share it. And I'm like, no, because I did
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  Speaker 1: share it, but first, don't hit me up talking about
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  Speaker 1: and share it. Little girl. You make three hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year, give him forty thousand and move around.
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  Speaker 2: But no. Sometimes I think sharing stuff on social media
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  Speaker 2: is kind of impersonal.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't do enough. If people just gonna swipe left,
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  Speaker 1: people just gonna tap through, people are not going to
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  Speaker 1: really tap into it or like really try to get
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: knew what I was going to do. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: speak to the actual people that listen to this show
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  Speaker 1: and say, yo, do you mind going to the link
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  Speaker 1: in this show Right here, I'm putting the link into
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  Speaker 1: the show and giving ten dollars. I know it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're going through a lot of gas. Bro
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  Speaker 1: I put in seventy thousand gas the other day. It
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  Speaker 1: did not fill my tank. I said, yo, yo, and
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  Speaker 1: there's still traffic. How the fuck are y'all affording gat?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's ADHD my bad. But maybe if we
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  Speaker 1: could all give ten dollars for this man and his family.
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  Speaker 1: He has two kids, he has his wife, Like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I would really appreciate it
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  Speaker 1: if you guys banded together like we used to do.
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  Speaker 1: Social media has done so much breaking us all apart.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we do is argue on social media. That's
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  Speaker 1: all we do is like rip each other apart of
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  Speaker 1: the seams. But I would like to think that So
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  Speaker 1: Shameless is still a community. And those of us who
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  Speaker 1: have been here for five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten
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  Speaker 1: years know who Travi is. He's been here with us
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  Speaker 1: the entire time, and him and his family need help.
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  Speaker 2: So please go on over to go fund me again.
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  Speaker 1: I putting the link into the show's bio all you
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  Speaker 1: have to do is click the word link or hear
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  Speaker 1: or some shit I don't know, and go on over
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  Speaker 1: and support this young man as he heals and gets
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  Speaker 1: back to returning to his family. Thank y'all so much
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who actively have done it since
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  Speaker 1: a minute you heard, And if you haven't done it,
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  Speaker 1: I understand. We ain't all got it. We don't always
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  Speaker 1: have you know what I mean, I get it the
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  Speaker 1: means or like you know, even sometimes it just be
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  Speaker 1: the ADHD you mean to do it. I'll get to
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  Speaker 1: it later, maybe I'll do a Friday, But just understand
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  Speaker 1: one thing. Without community, we have nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Else.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all really understand that. But at
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  Speaker 1: the end, it's your people who put on for you.
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  Speaker 1: At the end, it's your family that surrounds you, and
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  Speaker 1: then your community surrounds your family. You can spend a
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  Speaker 1: life not contributing to that. But I've been to a
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  Speaker 1: wake with fourteen people there. I don't want my week
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  Speaker 1: to have fourteen people. I want my shit to be
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  Speaker 1: flooding into the streets because I put on for people
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  Speaker 1: and they want to put on for me, and things
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  Speaker 1: like this are those moments, Those moments where you say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I got you, I got this, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be this pillar of my community. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a supporter of my community. And that's ten dollars is
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  Speaker 1: a low price to pay for that. So I would askally,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you would do that or what you can, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's three, four, five, or though if you could
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  Speaker 1: put four dollars and go fund me. But I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure if ten thousand people put four dollars, he'd be
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  Speaker 1: happy at shit. So I'm not gonna, you know, frown
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  Speaker 1: on any amount that you could just say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the time more. In fact, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the time in clicking the link and actually filling
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  Speaker 1: the thing out or pushing the buttons.
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  Speaker 2: That's the actual commitment. It's not the four dollars.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fact that most of us don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take the time out to say, all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go click the fucking link. But this man's family
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  Speaker 1: and his two children and his wife who's been there
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  Speaker 1: throughout all of this, they need that four dollars. And
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  Speaker 1: if you put four dollars, you bomb ass nigga. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, put for the doll. I mean whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but still won't you do that for your community because
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  Speaker 1: we've all been here and we're all going to be
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  Speaker 1: there at some point. We're all going to be there
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  Speaker 1: at some point, and if it was you, I'd do
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  Speaker 1: it for you too.
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  Speaker 2: So Shameless. What I'm saying, can you do me a
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  Speaker 2: small favor? What's up? Can you not hang your glasses
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  Speaker 2: from your shirt like that? No, don't, don't. Don't listen
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  Speaker 2: to that nigga Trump, don't listen to that nigga.
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  Speaker 4: My mom does that to her glass. My mom was
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  Speaker 4: born in nineteen fifty four.
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  Speaker 2: That was crazy. I'm just saying, this is how we
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  Speaker 2: started the show. I'm just saying. It just bothers me.
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  Speaker 2: It's just.
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  Speaker 5: Shirt shirt, profusely sweaty, talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Nigga.
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  Speaker 2: It was hot too, right, but I don't have a
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  Speaker 2: loving shirt. What the fuck? You make sacrifices to be cool?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to So Shameless. We lost one. Ben is gone.
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  Speaker 1: I am here with my mother, Fred, Demon There, King Loon, Horney,
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: spider Man.
• 8:41
  Speaker 6: No hold up, No, you gotta introduce me better than that.
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  Speaker 6: You give this nigga this Monfred whatever. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to. I don't care.
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  Speaker 6: You're not gonna want the nicknames he has. No, I
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  Speaker 6: want you to give me something. Fly nigga, but I'm
• 8:55
  Speaker 6: your family. Why you like nigga? Don't treat me like that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think you know what's happening here. I think
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  Speaker 6: I've given you a lit fly that's name.
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  Speaker 2: You could get. You get what you get. You don't
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  Speaker 2: like spider Man? No, that's you, though, Bro. I actually
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  Speaker 2: gave him a dope spider Man picture I did did
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: that was whine? I got my room? Then it shunt
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  Speaker 2: send me a picture of it or nothing. Trump? How
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  Speaker 2: are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 5: My brother feeling right? Man?
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Good? I'm good, I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: We have some real issues on the table for black
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  Speaker 1: men to discuss, Loom.
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  Speaker 2: Can you be serious? No, it's the unseriousness in the room.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I wonder. I'm wondering. Can we have real I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I've ever had a serious conversation with you. Podcast
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: single me out. I know I was man serious like
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  Speaker 2: seventeen minutes ago. Am I going with this? Ain't told
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: me to be funny? No, I can't be funny. Got
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: over that drink ship, which I want from me six
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  Speaker 2: seven that I just si you did that. I ain't.
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  Speaker 2: Can I excuse myself? We've been in school six seven
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  Speaker 2: when they do that ship don't mean nothing.
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  Speaker 7: M h.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking none of these, none of these topics actually
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  Speaker 2: go with each other today. That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's very random, right, So should I just start from
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  Speaker 1: the top and just go.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't matter.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's what she said. I don't like the way
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  Speaker 2: he said that, are y'all? Are y'all mature? I literally said,
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  Speaker 2: I said topics. You said, start from the top, and
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  Speaker 2: then yeah, I said that you're talking about I didn't
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  Speaker 2: say it was a problem. Are y'all talking about penis?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say what he had. I didn't say the
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  Speaker 2: top on what women say the top on?
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  Speaker 5: It?
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  Speaker 1: Just you know what y'all just gave me. Now I
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: know it wasn't me with the problem. No, Now I
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: know where to starts. We're gonna go to Funky the Neva.
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  Speaker 1: Since y'all want to talk about gay ship, right, let's
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  Speaker 1: go to funk.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even think it was gay, let's go. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't know what it was when he please, and
• 11:01
  Speaker 8: my personal evolution that I am done, almost done, slightly done,
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  Speaker 8: only going to do it when it's necessary pushing out
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  Speaker 8: divisive content.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what other races do. Black men and
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  Speaker 2: black women.
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  Speaker 8: I'm at a place now where I fully recognize we
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  Speaker 8: need each other, gay, straight, trans, fat, skinny, autism, off
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  Speaker 8: the spectrum, broke, poor, Sunkiana, sexy, red Nikki Giovanni. We
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  Speaker 8: all need each other, and it is time that we
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  Speaker 8: start pushing more content and examples of black love and
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  Speaker 8: black unity. I think that we have exhausted this.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Men are from Mars, women are from Venus commentary. I
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  Speaker 2: think we've exhausted that. That's greed. We've put it all
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  Speaker 2: out there and nothing's come of it.
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  Speaker 8: So now it's time for us to do something different.
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  Speaker 8: The reality of the situation is Black women need Black men, gay,
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  Speaker 8: straight or otherwise, and Black men need Black women gay,
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  Speaker 8: straight or otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have a lot.
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  Speaker 8: Of nuanced things within our community.
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  Speaker 2: That we need to fix.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, are black men one thousand percent the problem? No,
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  Speaker 8: I still think they are largely the problem. I do
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  Speaker 8: think heterosexual men are largely the problem, and here is why.
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  Speaker 2: Because they do not face.
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  Speaker 8: Any other challenges that gay men and or black women
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  Speaker 8: and or anybody else within the black umbrella face, and
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  Speaker 8: yet everybody else has been able to thrive under those
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  Speaker 8: same conditions except them.
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  Speaker 2: I will die on that hill.
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  Speaker 8: Granted, there is a set of things that black men
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  Speaker 8: go through that black.
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  Speaker 2: Women will never understand.
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  Speaker 8: And there is a set of societal things that come
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  Speaker 8: at black men that don't come at black women. But
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  Speaker 8: there are also things that come at black women that
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  Speaker 8: will never come at black men. And there are things
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  Speaker 8: that come at black gay men that neither one of
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  Speaker 8: y'all we'll never understand. There is enough oppression to go
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  Speaker 8: around for all of us, but we still cannot negate
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  Speaker 8: the fact that black gay men and black women have
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  Speaker 8: still been able to somehow thrive under the same societal
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  Speaker 8: condition that straight black men are not necessarily thriving under.
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  Speaker 8: I recognize that my brothers have a set of challenges
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  Speaker 8: that they go through, but y'all gonna have to explain
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  Speaker 8: why everybody else been able to thrive under the same
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  Speaker 8: set of conditions, and y'all ain't been able to thrive.
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  Speaker 2: And I stand by that we.
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  Speaker 8: Got the same societal conditions. Plus we're exiled from the
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  Speaker 8: village for being gay and we've still figured out a
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  Speaker 8: way to thrive Black men, y'all gonna have to answer that,
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  Speaker 8: explain why y'all can't.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a question.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't want to get crucified to know how
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  Speaker 4: the soul shameless crowd is.
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  Speaker 2: Nah fuck that say what you guys say?
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  Speaker 4: Where the fuck do y'all think black gay niggas is thriving? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what makes y'all think they thrive? I'm confused. I ain't
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  Speaker 4: ever like went online and just seeing outstanding black gay
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  Speaker 4: niggas like you did, like gay black.
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  Speaker 2: Ex most of Hollywood, Okay, Carlos King, Zarah like that
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  Speaker 2: around mouth.
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  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of successful heterosexual black men as well, bro,
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  Speaker 4: But there's a ton of them. So for you to
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  Speaker 4: say that black men aren't thriving, I mean I could
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  Speaker 4: maybe agree to that. Yeah, I mean, I know some
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  Speaker 4: niggas that ain't doing shit, But I know some gay
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  Speaker 4: niggas that ain't really doing shit either.
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  Speaker 2: It's a valid question.
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  Speaker 5: I would say gay men in general are pretty successful.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: About sucking dick just propels you into the next level
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  Speaker 1: of societal freedom or something.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, that was my only problem that I have
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  Speaker 4: A way, he said, well, why don't.
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  Speaker 1: When we look at the people going to jail or
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  Speaker 1: dying or looked at as a threat to our society
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  Speaker 1: at large, it wouldn't be gay black.
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  Speaker 2: Men, correct, It would most likely be as far as
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  Speaker 2: Black people are concerned, it would be men black men
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  Speaker 2: not building proper families, not having their own shit together,
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  Speaker 2: right like, And we're talking about generally.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that if you would a lot, if
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  Speaker 1: you would have list black men, black women, gay men,
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  Speaker 1: gay women, right black men, straight black.
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  Speaker 2: Men were probably at the bottom of that list. If
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  Speaker 2: we went down through.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever gender, sex and in a black diaspora of whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that straight black men would be at
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  Speaker 1: the bottom. And the question is why I don't disagree
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 2: By the way.
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  Speaker 5: I could answer that. So, for one thing, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was hilarious how he started off.
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  Speaker 2: Saying he wasn't going to do and then admit, so
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  Speaker 2: let me put you on pause with that.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all gain niggas bro y'all keep saying, y'all want the
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  Speaker 1: straight black men right to be an ally like we
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  Speaker 1: need y'all hope it comes over here and says we
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  Speaker 1: need y'all, and then the same shit calls you pussy. Well,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I said, I call this pussy, But I see that
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: in these comments, the way y'all have this vitriol that hate.
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  Speaker 2: If y'all want to be separate, cool. I believe that
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  Speaker 2: most of the people that y'all trying to come over
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  Speaker 2: get to come over. They want to be separate too.
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  Speaker 1: But if y'all saying that we need to be society
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  Speaker 1: and community, the messaging, I don't know if this is
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the type of messaging that's going to be helpful. Trauma
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  Speaker 1: would gave me these words other day counterproductive. I liked
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it because it's like, are we moving towards a common goal?
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  Speaker 1: If so, is this the messaging that's gonna get us there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know, as and as
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: a part of the problem that I've been for I
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  Speaker 2: know if I'm the one that's supposed to be asking
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  Speaker 2: that quest question, right, But I believe, And it gets
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming for me.
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  Speaker 1: To hear that type of messaging, and you know, I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: battle with myself like, damn, oh, no accountability. Maybe I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: just need to be accountable, But I'm just like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think no human being wants to hear suck
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  Speaker 1: my dick all day from a person that you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: come help me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think nobody is good for that.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody's for that, But go ahead, trom yeah, everything that
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  Speaker 5: you just said, Like, it's just very strange to start off,
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  Speaker 5: because I started off for green like yeah, I agree,
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  Speaker 5: like yeah, shouldn't be divisive, and then he immediately went
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: the opposite direction and started being divisive. My thoughts on
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: black men's stance and all of this, I do. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: don't feel like black men. Here's the thing. I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: want to do what he just did and do a
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: comparison with the oppression of Olympics, you know what I mean.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: But I will say this, black men's stance in society,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I'm sure has a lot to do with the fact
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: that we are probably the white man's biggest threat, more
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: so than the black women, more so than the black
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: gay man. We are the foundation in the core of
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: the black family. We are the biggest strength physically, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: we are the biggest threat to white male fragility. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's a coincidence that there are so
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: many things in place to destroy black men specifically straight
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: black men. I don't want to compare and do oppression Olympics,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: but I'll point that out right there.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Anybody else, Yeah, well you spoke first. Yeah, I kind
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: of agree with Trom.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I feel like as I was listening to it, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: liked how you start it, and I feel like, as
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: I'm listening to it, I just started to think, like
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: a large part I think of our culture, we get
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: caught up in trying to be the best victim.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: We try to out victim the other victims. Right, we
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: want to be like you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: Said, it's the pression Olympics, right, And the thing about
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: the Olympics is that you're striving for a first, second,
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: and third, right, and it's literally all as a culture
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: fighting to be first, second, and third oppressed. Like you
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like this person is more oppressed,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: but we know we're more oppressed. And I think when you,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: like you said, t when you listen to that over
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: and over and that kind of becomes redundant, I think
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: you kind of see it and kind of what he said,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: but he kind of went into it where it's like, Yo,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: you don't get anything from that because all you do
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: is turn off the people that you need to come
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: with you, and the people that are on board are
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: kind of tied of hearing the same stuff and no
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: action happening. So now you just are in a purgatory
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: of or a matrix of just nothing nothing happening, right,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: So it's just the conversations, it's just lip service. But
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: I think that that who can be the best victim?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Thing?
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: I think that's where like we're all stuck at.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Are we not going to answer the question though, I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: sorry because he's saying right, you know you had another answer.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But the question was.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Why are black men the ones that are suffering the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: most or not improving the most or not excelling the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: most when it compared to women. So to gay men
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and ship like that I heard, I heard that. I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: would say I wanted more.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Was that it no no right so to that to
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: answer that directly, Like, I think black heterosexual men is
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: probably the biggest master plan to I don't want to
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: say they throw us, but like we all face stuff, right,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: we all have stuff.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: That we face.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: But I think black heterosexual men, like for Trump said
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: the family stuff, the being able to combat white supremacy,
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: there's a whole bunch of things. I think on the
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: spectrum that us specifically as black heterosexual men, there's like
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: there's an extra level of what you want to call
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: it attack or like systems in play, right, and by
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: the trickle down effect, it's gonna affect all of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: other people.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: If we can.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Take them out, is by byproduct, is gonna affect everything else.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: So I think that's how they move and operate with us.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: As long as they can move us out the way,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: everybody else can be handled easily.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: So you ever, I'm trying to think of how this
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: would make sense, right, Like just imagine you have two
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: lines that are stuck together, right, like a circle. One
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: of them has a hole in the top, and water
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: is being pumped through that hole. Right, there's literally no
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: way for that water to escape these two holes. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: say that to say, as black people, as black men,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: we have certain things that, like what he said, the
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: gentleman from the video, we face that other people don't face.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: In order for you to kind of like change the
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: black man, it has to lily, it goes beyond. Just
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: like systematic racism is one thing, social conditioning is another thing.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Toxic masculinity is so many different layers that we have
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: to kind of break away before we can start to
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: make that change. I feel the biggest reason why we
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: are in thrive is because niggas is not being honest
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: with themselves about who they are and what they got
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: going on. And once you do that, you got to say, yo,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: do I really want to continue to be this for
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the rest of my life? You gotta want that for yourself.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: So the reason black men aren't changing is because they
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: don't even rise that they have a problem. So if
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: you can't ruse that you have a problem, how can
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: you solve the problem. So that is the problem.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You smoke that it's a motherfucking roach. Sometimes I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: y'all all did a great job.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think Loan is the only one that actually gave
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: us accountability. At this point, we are doing a lot
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of this to ourselves through our music.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: There the things that we value through our fears, our.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Lack of emotional intelligence, our ego, the fact that we
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: are raising our children.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of us. Well, I actually looked up the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: other day. It's the standards high.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And well it seid seventy five or seventy something percent
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of men are in their two lives fire right on
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: some level fire, but that does not mean the level
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: that is necessary correct to imprint right. My dad is around.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I spoke to him like seven months ago. He's in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. Sorry, And that's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the same as when I was a kid see him
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: one weekend a month. I would see him one weekend
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't hear from him. I couldn't patter myself
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: after him. I didn't know him when he would come over.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: When I would go over his house, he would drop
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: me off with his family that he created, and he
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: would go to work. I wouldn't see him the whole weekend,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and I woul see him when it's time to drop
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: me off.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Nigga, don't know me whatsoever. You understand what I'm saying.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So where did I.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Learn being a man from male values or just the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: things that I self.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Esteem that comes from being a man. Right.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I just think that Loan nailed the fact that we
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: are at this point trying to be the best worst nigga,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, because we scared of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: everybody else, so you want to be the villain too, right,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: We walk around with this thing like I gotta be
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: this nigga, I'll kill you like damn nigga. And if
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you'll treat another person like that, how you treating your women,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: how you treating your community, how you treating the children?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And then that is what they emulate, right, So at
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this point I think that we really do. While I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just want to say to gay people, y'all ain't a threat.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: They let y'all infiltrate and they let y'all get somewhere
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: because nobody's scared of y'all, y'all, and that's what this
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is to them.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It's war. It's war games. It's been war games since
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Willie Lynch.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Y'all ain't a threat, bro, So don't take what y'all
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: saying is like a like y'all got a badge of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: some shit, my nigga, because.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Bringing down the people that will protect us is not
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a flex right. Honestly, I get why y'all say what
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: y'all say, because it's true, But the way.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Y'all doing it, I don't think it's helpful. These niggas
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the strong that not saying that y'all a is strong
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: because y'all be fucking each other. So I know y'all strong,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but the heterosexual ones are the ones that they're afraid of.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: They're also the ones that will go to war. They
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: know that, and so they're trying to kick out back in.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And the fact is they.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Allow all types of systems to destroy us. The music
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is controlled by who. Lucia the fucking the imagery.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Right when I was a kid, all I seen, all
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I knew from Africa was the fly on the.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Frail, starving baby.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was fucking resources over there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: They've taken the knowledge from your children so that they
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: don't know themselves understand that there are systems in place
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that are meant to kick the betero sexual black man's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: back end.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The women, they don't give a fuck what all do
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: respect y'all are the strongest thing we got going, whether
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's gay or the women. Y'all are the strongest thing
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: we got going.
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: But they got scared of y'all. They not, And so
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: that's why y'all are thriving. With all due respect to
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: what we got going on. Y'all are thriving because they
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: don't fear you. They should fear y'all. I do shit,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: I do too.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But I gotta I got a question for you in Trauma.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You guys are fathers. Correct?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Also, I also want to push back from y'all if
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: y'all have something for what I just said.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: You and Trauma both dads here? Right? You got three joints?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You got what two at five yesterday? Six?
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I bet you have a question for you guys both.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Right when you guys got the news of your girl
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: having your first kid, right, what was some questions that
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: you What was the first question you probably had, like
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: is it a boy or the girl?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Right? More than likely? Or is it yours?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: But you know one question you guys didn't have. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: this maybe black or white? You knew it was black.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: So I say that to.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Say, before you even a man, before you even a woman,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: before you're trans, before you're gay, you're black.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: And when you see videos like this, I feel it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: important to understand, Like I don't want to say it's
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: a white person thing, but the system.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Is built to divide black people.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: So when you think about black men, black women, black trans,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: black gays, black pants whatever, like pants, trans pants, pants,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: pants like pants, axual, we are black first, you know
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: So when we have these conversations.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I feel it's very important emphasizes for you we are
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: black first and we need to share our resources. So
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: if you run and you see this nigga back here,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: he's not you gotta pull a niggas.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to say that black a lot of black
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: gays would think they black first. With all due respect
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to them, I'm not trying to disrespect you. I think
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world looks at them a gay first.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: White people don't well the rest of the people that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: are hurting them because they got to think about safety.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So they think gay first in a lot of ways
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to safety.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: And toil your points out like they lean on that,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: and rightfully so sometimes because black is not a thing
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: that you could always fall back on. Being black is
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: just not enough to be protected. Sometimes protection or protecting
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: about the progression of black people in general. That's what
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: the point of the the point of the video was, Yo,
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: as blacks, we need to progress. And my whole thing
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: is if that's what you truly want, if you want
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: the progression of not just black gays, but black women,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: black men, whatever, all of the motherfuckers under the black umbrella.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: If you truly want the progression.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Of that, you have to move. So you know what
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: If I want yesterday to be lit, if I know
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: it's a situation, Yo, there's a nigga who you're a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: BBW music video?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yo, yes, Yo, go do that. That's black progression.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: If I know a nigga need a fucking DJ for
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: some real pro black.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Shit, you're trump, You'll go do that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I say that to say, we have to share our
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: resources with each other. That's the only way that we're
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: ever truly truly gonna thrive. We don't shavee with our resources.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: We fucked.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: If I'm not gonna say the name. There's one group
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: of people who are very successful. When you look at
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: the top of anything, it usually one of them niggas.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Okay no, oh, Jewish yes.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: And the one thing that I admire about both of
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: them there sometimes it be a combination. The one thing
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I like about the niggas they stick to gather. They
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: could not like each other, you got you. They could
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: be at work beefing, but when it comes to some ship,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: that's about them.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Your nigga. We Jewish nigga. They like this.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying the money stays within there.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I sound like Trump, the money stays within their fucking
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: community all on Eastern Parkway.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: They do everything together.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: You know, they hold it down and if black people,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do that, but I just wish.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That we stop hitting on each other.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, bro, why, Well, that comes from slavery, and that
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: comes from a lack of resources, and it's like a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: crab and barrel thing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Trump, what do you think about it?
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I'ld say it comes from post slavery, like post slavery again.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: You know, the gay man in the video he asked
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: for question, asked the question why, and to your points,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: how it would be good to give some accountability. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: if we're asking why, any accountability would be surface level
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: or heterosexual black men aren't producing, We're not in school
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: at the same rates when I'm graduating universities and things
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: like that. But I like to dig deeper as to why,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: because the answer to that question is not that we
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: are less than It's not that we're not as gifted,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: not as intelligent as a black woman or a gay
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: black man. So unless you believe that, you got to
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: know that there's a deeper answer, and that's why I
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: mentioned what I mentioned, And to take it a step further, like, yeah,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: we black men are in the patriarchal system. We are
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: the head of household for the black family, not a
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: gay black man, not a black woman. The head of
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: household for the black family is the black man. So
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: of course, because they're not a part of the mbolic
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: family structure man, woman, and child in the same way.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: I mean in some regards today maybe yes, but not historically,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: so systemically they weren't a threat the word we've been
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: using it, you know what I mean. So whatever systemic
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: things are in place to attack black men in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: name of white supremacy. Now, if you don't believe white supremacy,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: if you don't believe white supremacy is a thing, then
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: you're living under a rock. If you do believe that
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: it's a thing, then you have to know that a strong,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: family oriented black man is the biggest threat to that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: So of course, everything in place systemically is going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: attack our success, whether it be in the legal system,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: the school system, whether it be just media propaganda. All
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: of these things are what we are combating. So it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: not an excuse, but it's an alternative to the answer
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: being that we are less than because that's not damn
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: sure to answer.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You understand, man, I hear you. You know I work
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: in the Central Park area.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel like white people really believe in themselves
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: from young and are taught to believe in themselves from
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: young and so yo. I don't feel like they have
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the same fear of life or fear of.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I just think black people teach each other fear.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: A lot more, and it affects the male to be
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: able to be uh.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And I hate this word in alpha right.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: The fact that they exists without so many checks and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: balances or else this is going to happen to you,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and that that becomes something that's passed down from the mother,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the father, something that you break the father or he
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't have it or how many times he can't support you,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. We teach each other be careful,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: be scared, and I don't see them teaching each other
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that as often.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more network, it's more relationship, I understand. I do.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I disagree with that. Yeah, I disagree with you. Good, Okay, Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I kind of feel I kind of feel like it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: not me coming at you though, right, I feel you're
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: way too intelligent to.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Just look at it like that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Right, So, paying tons what you just said, you go
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: to Central Park and you see white families, they kind
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: of instill all these positive affirmations and their children from
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: young correct what you said.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, where the fuck was the black families?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: You might see a single black mother trying to talk
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: to her son or daughter. She can only do half
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: the work. I say this shit all the time. If
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you have the perfect mother right and reference of the
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: paternal fucking balance, you only have fifty percent. So even
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: if my mom was the most perfect mother that I've
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: ever seen in my fucking life, I'm already down fifty.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I'm scared because as a man, you're supposed to protect.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: They're supposed to show a nigga as your son, how
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: to protect, how to go out there, how to defend yours,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: how to defend your sister, to defend your mother, how
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: to defend women, maybe, how to treat women. All these things,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: all these resources I had to learn on my own.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking for me. My pops wasn't really around like that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I had to learn on my own. Some trial and
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: ever shit we had talking about the future. Bro, When
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I was fucking seventeen and a half, the first thing
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: on my mind wasn't applying for college. It was applied
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: for a job. So now I can't even really focus
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: on school. Now I need to help my mom out
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: with bills. These are all resources and the obstacles that
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I that me. I'm not throwing nigga at faces that
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I had to face.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: How are you disagree with me? Because, Bro, you're saying.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: What you're saying is you're saying Black people we don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: do the same thing.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But it's not our fault that we don't.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's a fault. I don't know
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: if you're disagreeing with your say it's fault. I agree
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: with everything you said. But when white people have legacy,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: they are passing down shit from fucking generations and generations
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and generations that they.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Can pour into their children. They aren't. Where they walk
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: into the street, they don't look. You know why we
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: don't do that ship we'd be like that. They don't.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: They don't the way we are every day thing which
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: comes from slavery, it literally comes from us being scared
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: we might not make it till tomorrow. That's passed down
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: from generation to generation the generation and it becomes a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: way of actual living and thinking.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: We're scaredy cats almost versus a cat that grew up
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: in the street and don't give funk about nothing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: Tom's completely right. It's like it's like it's like a
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: black kid growing up in the neighborhood. Right, growing up
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: in the hood. I feel like every day you walk
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: out the house, like you have to be okay with
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: knowing that you might not possibly come back. That's something
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: that we that's something that we all just have to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Be okay with.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: White people going up, Well, white boys and girls don't
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: grow up with that same mindset. That's not even a thought,
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: not going out to whatever section or neighborhood that they're
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: in and it's like, oh, I could possibly not come back.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: So just living this growing up with those two mindsets
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: is just two completely different things. So when you're talking
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: about what the family is providing, that's why I said,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: it's the relationships. It's not even about the day to
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: day you know what I'm saying. It's like they're they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: not scared about getting hit by a car, right because
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: they have health insurance, they got money to fix it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: They got money to pay for whatever I did.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I did. He's speaking from past.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying, but I'm just saying, but also to
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: but it's the same thing. I'm black, I don't I
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: didn't have anything. I had to go through it a
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: certain way. If I was white, I would have had
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: a lawyer already. I would have it would have gone
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: a different type of way.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But yo, super serious, concess, what's the point? Can't
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: sit this nigga down for too long?
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I want to ask a question, but I'm afraid to
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: ask it. This might fuck up the whole show. Fuck
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: it up, Fuck it up. Do you ever think will
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: ever be a time where black and white people are equal?
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I know it's not gonna happen when we're a lot,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: but you did that time in the system. Do you
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: ever think will be equal opportunities? Do you ever think
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: we will have this America?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? Do you think there's going to be a time? Yes?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Yes, We're going to be equal because it's because I
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: feel like the division is going to go from being
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: raced to being economics, and I feel we're kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: already there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You think we're there, classes were.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: If you're talking about classism, then it will still there
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: will still be biases.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: This reminds me of when we was talking about Trump
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: and the American Empire a couple of weeks ago. I'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: into history, and America has only been around two hudred
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: and fifty years. The birthday was like, that's a small
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: blip in the history of the world, in the history
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: of civilized peoples. So there's been a lot of ups
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: and downs, a lot of empires, the Mongolian Empire, Roman Empire.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: You be reading, absolutely right, they can read.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: So this blipping time is not going to be permanent.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: And then on top of that, white supremacy is an
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: issue globally, but specifically in America it looks different. It's
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: a little bit more racist than everywhere else, I believe, right.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: It's in the in the economics and politics, to everything.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's in there. Even am I say that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: I say that to say things will turn around. Maybe
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: not in our lifetime, but they will. The American Empire
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: may not be here or may not look the same.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I also feel like the older white people, when they
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: die off their kids are a little bit more progressive,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. America is getting less and
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: less white, which is why Trump is rolling back all
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: this immigration and all that, because they know that in
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: by twenty fifty, the minorities are gonna be the majority.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: So everything's gonna look different globally and especially in this country.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: So at some point, not only will there be some equality,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: but it might the balance might shift completely.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I was saying to Tran's point, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: was saying, just the globalization of how everything is going,
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: and people of color now just being more spread all
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: over the world. Like Trump said, once that majority flip happens,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: then I feel like it goes from it being a
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: white and black thing to being a money thing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And class classism takes over. And who's going to be
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the class.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: It's gonna be It's gonna be all typing people. That's
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: that's the thing it's gonna be. It's not just gonna
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: be black people.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: While I agree with you, I disagree with y'all.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Racism is a founding part of this country.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: This land. It was based on racism.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: That's how they came over white people or whatever it was, French, Spain, English,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: whatever those things, right, Europeans came over. They took over
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the Native American, They brought over the black people Africans.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: That is part of this.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: This doesn't exist to them without it. We need to
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: be aware of that for real. That's their thing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: When they don't have the power, then they have to
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: deal with letting us in or whatever it may be,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a looking at us a different thing.
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: Loan.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I do not believe this country America as it stands,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: because I heard what Trump said. He gave that caveat
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of it might change two hundred and fifty years. Anything
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: can happen. And I think that when you got people
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like Trump and MAGA and the Republican Party or whatever
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: that push doing shit colonialization of other countries, they're trying
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to stop them from being able to rise up to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: get them.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to do. They're trying They know
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: that they got this shit coming for you, and so
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: that every time they get closed they go nope.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That's how they got Cadafi out of here. Oh no,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get us out of here economically. Note,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: let's kill him, right. All of these people that we
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: call terrorists, oh no, we know they're coming for us, right,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and we need their resources.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: So that we can stay on top. That's not gonna
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: last long. It's a bully.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna last for long. Right, at some point,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: David is gonna knock Goliath out.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, I don't.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what else I wanted to say
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: about that, but I do know I want to keep
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: moving right. First of all, I love this conversation by
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: us for black men in here.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I have two clips.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I want to play real quick and then a really
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: good convo, and then another really clip convo. These clips
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: don't have to go there that long. The first one
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: is by consciously.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? Nigga?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma has passed a law banning child marriage, setting the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: minimum marriage age at eighteen with no exceptions. The bill
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: passed the House fifty one to thirty six.
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: It's a long thing in child marriage, setting the minimum
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: marriage age at eighteen with no exceptions. The bill passed
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: the House fifty one to thirty six, with all thirty
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: six opposing votes coming from Republicans.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Woman has proud of.
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: Itself on leading the nation anti LGBTQ loss passed, and
• 42:28
  Speaker 11: these folks, it is more worried about the drag queens
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: and story hols with the kids than you is the
• 42:33
  Speaker 11: prenator's trying to marry the kids who's particularly always already
• 42:36
  Speaker 11: says shit, didn't straight. They want to protect the kids
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: from communism, from socialism, from feminism, from anything about anti racism.
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: But hey, the grown ass men, the ones that's forty
• 42:47
  Speaker 11: and fifty praying on children, y'all have at it. Thirty
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: six Republicans voted against it. It's the reason why we
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: probably ain't never seeing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: The light of day of Epstein files that we do.
• 42:56
  Speaker 11: We definitely ain't seeing the responsibility accountability because.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: This is what they believe in. Right here is not
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a phobia that usually pushed.
• 43:02
  Speaker 11: To justify invading Islamic countries because they do town manage
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: over We have Republicans over here that believe it is
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: the God give me in right there, I say, right
• 43:11
  Speaker 11: to fuck with children.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You see.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: It's why only coming to so shameless, I give it
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: a buck. I always have to stigma so shames. Y'all
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit too educated for me because watching that video,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I realized that I'm special, not that nigga smart.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna keep it a buck. I thought that
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: ship been illegal.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that should legal say now that's been
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: like I thought you been couldn't do that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Bro' this there's some ship you could pull just getting
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: this off last week.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: There's multiple states. Yeah, it's it's the state state thing,
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: but it's must of the states that are still like
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: what thirteen fourteen fifteen is what?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And he hit that ship right on the fucking note.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: In America, we got all these anti galor what the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: fuck are we this country? What is? What is this country?
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: I like that right there, That's like, that's one of
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: the best things that I've seen because you know that,
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: you know, the Epstein ship has been out, you know
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: that's been all over the you know the timeline, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: I feel like in real life, like I feel like
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: that's a very good indication of where we are as
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: who we are. You know, they look yourself in the
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: mirrorand that's why I feel about that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: That's what that is, right, I got they're Houston. I'm
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: so sorry that we treat you guys away that we do.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Me and Towle said a minute ago.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is shity.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Like three years ago when it was going on our
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: little play party tours ship, right, we mapped out all
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: our statistics statistics algorithms see what our numbers look like.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: And Houston, they really fuck with us in Houston.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: But do you know, like what's the fucking rules off
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: of like play parties in Houston?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: So shameless, but.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's so crazy that we're focused on that, right,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Like you have rules that say you can't even have
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: a specific kind of party in Texas.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: You can't. You can't even walk around with that thing
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: on you you feel me just in case.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: But you got rules that literally state that protect niggas
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: marrin kids under eighteen. That's go to show you back
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to what he said, the things that we focus on
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: we so anti lgbtqya and just not being fluid.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But look at the shit that we be letting rock
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. I got even more than that from you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: A lot of these states is ass backwards, the same
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: states that you could buy a gun in Walmart, but
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: you can't buy no weed, you know what I mean,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Like that's fucking nuts.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: You could buy a gun and you can manage somebody.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: That's fortunately, this is absolutely insane. Listen to how they
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: talk about Julio folios. Julio folio right k from Florida
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the killers in court as they try to convince the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: judge not to give him the chair. This is the prosecution.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: It's the prosecution.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: This sounds eerily like a modern day auction, almost like
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: we're back in the eighteen hundreds.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Listen, is this loan.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Based on mister gathlites, age, physical.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: Abilities, things like that?
• 45:47
  Speaker 12: Do you think that the prison would benefit from him
• 45:49
  Speaker 12: in a work capacity if he were sentenced to life
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: without parole? I say yes with my experience, not only
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: just in classication, but as former warned and even as
• 45:58
  Speaker 12: a jail administrator.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: He's someone that's young, he's healthy.
• 46:03
  Speaker 12: In reality, we need that labor, we need that sweat equity,
• 46:07
  Speaker 12: and we will put them out there to work because
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: we do have an aging prison population.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Jail administration, we have that.
• 46:14
  Speaker 12: So we put these young individuals to work and get
• 46:16
  Speaker 12: some sweat equity out of them since they are young
• 46:19
  Speaker 12: and actually can do the work.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: And we talk about life without parole and death row.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: But for our jurors education in Florida, what.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: Does a life sentence without parole meat a life sentence
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: in the Florida Department of Corrections means from the minute
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: they're brought in they're assigned an inmate number. He will
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: be assigned an inmate number, and when he dies and
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: leaves in a body bag, he will still have that
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: inmate number, and then may serving life will never ever
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: get out.
• 46:48
  Speaker 12: There is no parole in the state of Florida.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: And they're not ever allowed outside the raizor wire and
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: the fence of a secure facility.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they I said, you keep it in
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: numb on when your dad, I'm gonna up this show again.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm conflicted.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Because that's crazy, right, Like to hear somebody speak about
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: another human being in that way is diabolical, Like it
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: really do give slavery like this nigga talking about inmates
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: like sanitation workers, like yeah, we gotta get t wada
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: and we need we need the old niggas got the
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: young niggas in like.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm like, what's at
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the NBA. But at the end of the day, though,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you kill.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Somebody, though, you know what I'm saying, Like you body
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: the nigga, And I guess like in my soul being
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: outside on them streets when you young. This why it
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: is important to have like male guidance, because once you
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: make that decision, you can't reverse that. And he this nigga,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: this nigga's best date of his life will be right
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: now is thank god they didn't kill me. I'm gonna
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: leave jail in a body bag like that's his data.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: That's his six seven death, leaving a body bag hopefully
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: death now or in jail till I die. And I
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna hold you. I'm never gonna wish jail on anybody.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: But bro, you killed a nigga, you know what I'm saying, So.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: He definitely deal with you.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: They I've seen about this story and they all deserve
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: to go to jail. But that's besides the point here,
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. The point is that we
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: all know mass incarceration is has been a thing that's
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: been super harmful to the black community. I've never heard
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: a white man, was he like a warden or something.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Never heard somebody so implicitly and clearly talk about it
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: in adjacent to slavery in the way that he did, unapologetically.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Just yeah, a healthy we get some good work. Like
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: we knew that that was the case, which is why
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: we fight back about in about mass in consceervation and
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: you know the fourteenth Amendment, but damn the way he
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: laid it out there, it's like, bro, you just being
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: very clear about what your intentions are. So it's less
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: about whether he deserves to go to jail or not.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: He's guilty, he deserves it, but it's setting the precedents,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: and it's just like, that's really the way that they
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: designed the system to maximize to basically legal slavery. It
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: is what it is. Yeah, no, I agree, y'all. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: watching that shit, I guess I don't. I'm not really
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: familiar with Fulio's music and all that, but I did
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: hear about the whole situation, and I think that video obviously,
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: you know it's a terrible situation, but I think the
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: young kids need to see that video. They need to
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: understand the consequences for their actions and the way they
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: could end up doing the shit that they're doing, right,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: because you know, they all listen to the music, they
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: all move around like that, right. But I think, especially now,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: he says something that was very important. He said, well,
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: the age of the age of our population in jail
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: is aging, So that means that basically Bolkov jail are
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: older people men perfectly right, So that basically saying that
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: and that that I'm assuming that's how it is for
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: a lot of jails.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: It's a lot of older people in it that's been
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: in there for a long time. So I feel like
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: the young people that are now coming in, like in
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: this day and age, the rookies, Yeah, like I feel like, oh,
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: they're going to be put like like they're going to
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: be pushing that line of the you know what I'm say,
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: They're going to be right on the line of that
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, because I feel like, yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: they got you know, it's big business.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: We got private dollars coming in, you know what I'm saying.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: So I also feel like jail not supposed to be
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: like aluring, you know, It's not supposed to be an attraction.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: So at the same time, it does make me cringy
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: and speak about that like about a black person. But
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: at the same time, I want all your kids to
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: see that video. I want all of the Tahles kids
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: see that video. I want anybody who is unfamiliar with
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: anything that has to do with the system and what
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: happens when you go to jail, you need to see
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: that video, because this is what you are looking at.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: They're looking the white supremacy's best days to just put
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: a nigga in there, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: that's there, that's that's their little take. Oh we got
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: another nigga, you know what I'm saying. So I kind
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: of I don't see I like it, but I want
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: you to be scared. I want you to never want
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: to have to look at that. I want that to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: never be you. So yeah, look at that, watch it
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: and play it and pray to God that that's never you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I've seen Julio Fulio's music video though, the one that
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: got murdered. I've seen. I've seen Who I Smoke and all.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: That's him, right Yo, it's wild. I'm not condoning any
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: of this, but I see why he got killed.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: He was reckless, Yo, I'm not gonna lie those kids. Yeah,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: Trump said, didn't make Who I Smoke? Right, No, that's
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: that's that him.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: He's basically name dropping everybody in opposing cruise that got
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: killed by the crew, like, yeah, we killed this nigga
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: day they on May fifteenth, and we killed his cousin
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: and like music video and just learning it's not even bars,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: it's just like statements.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: But Yo, this proves to whose point though, right?
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: And this is why I say, as black men, we
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: have obstacles that people wouldn't understand. Because a black gay
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: nigga might have to listen to Julio Fulham out there
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: and just be spraying the block, you know what I'm saying,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that's not really their ambition.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: But a nigga, a.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Heterosexual male, very young, lack of male presence, maybe lack
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: of guidance, he might hit that shit and sway his thoughts.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: A little bit. I keep it even I say this
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: shit all the time.
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: Bro.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: When I was young, this was the camera on every day.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: And you see how Cameron is who he is not.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: He was worse back then, Nigga. When I was young,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: the way I used to talk, like to my mom's
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: and adults and women, it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Was crazy even I would swear it. I had to
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: get out of that shit, you know.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: So I can't hold you imagine these new niggas, the
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: new batch of niggas, and the shit that they gotta
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: listen to, you know what I'm saying, Like, I couldn't
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: even imagine little niggas around with text, and Ak's is
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: thinking that niggas, when we do that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Shit, that's crazy, that's crazy.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: We think about the impact that men have on our
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: children and.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: How we parent them. Right.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I came across a video of a man that I'm
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: not sure if y'all gonna agree or disagree with the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: way he's choosing to parent his child.
• 53:15
  Speaker 13: Let's see somebody about how blue Face said, y'all want
• 53:20
  Speaker 13: him to whoop his daughter, who can regulate her emotions
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: because she only three, But y'all get mad at him
• 53:25
  Speaker 13: when he put his hands on women who've grown and
• 53:27
  Speaker 13: should know better.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And the person I was.
• 53:29
  Speaker 13: Talking to said, well, what would you do with a
• 53:31
  Speaker 13: man hit your daughter?
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: And my response was simple nothing.
• 53:35
  Speaker 13: And my daughter is dating a man and she in
• 53:37
  Speaker 13: a committed relationship, and she called me and say, Daddy,
• 53:40
  Speaker 13: he just put his hands on me. I'm gonna say,
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: call the police. And however she responds after that is
• 53:47
  Speaker 13: gonna let me know whether or not I made the
• 53:48
  Speaker 13: right decision. Because if she say okay and hang up
• 53:50
  Speaker 13: and call the police and get him arrested, then I
• 53:53
  Speaker 13: know she did the right thing. But if she tell
• 53:55
  Speaker 13: me no, because I don't want him to go to jail.
• 53:59
  Speaker 13: Then that let me know she plans on getting back
• 54:01
  Speaker 13: with him, And that lets me that no matter what
• 54:03
  Speaker 13: I come over there and do to that man, whether
• 54:05
  Speaker 13: I hurt him real bad, whether he hurt me real bad,
• 54:08
  Speaker 13: whether I beat him within a inch of his life
• 54:11
  Speaker 13: and go to prison, She's going to go back.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to do nothing, yo, I'm gonna keep it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep with a Actually I actually never even
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: told the.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Story on herd and so I'm telling him, me and
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: my ex have broke up, right, this is the one
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: This was actually a minute ago. We broke up and
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: she left me.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I need one, we don't need left, So she left
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: me and went back to her ex nigga, right, And
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I was heartbroken over that ship, like I'm talking about, yo,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: I was super duper heartbroken. And I was in the
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: gym with my man's and she had called me on
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: FaceTime and her I was fucked up, like the nigga
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: had beat the ship out of right, beat a bad
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: type ship and nigga. To this day, I don't think
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: I've ever been more infuriated in my life. Oh joke
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: to side, like I would have probably put one in
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: that nigga, I sh I was that upset pull whatever
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: you wanna call it. And my and I was on
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: my way to Queen's. I was about to make I
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: was gonna make some shit happen, you feel me? And
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: my Man's like, yo, bro, I'm gonna keep it a
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: buck with you. I don't think this is the best
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: decision for you. And I ain't say anything. He was like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I know it's gonna sound crazy. She gonna end up
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: back with that nigga. I still ain't say nothing. I
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: never I ain't say them for the rest of the day.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: And little behold you, she was dead ass back with
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: that nigga.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I was about to go throw away in my life
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: in them, I was y taking it up you want,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I was about to throw away in my life in
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: a situation like that. That was a switched over, you
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I don't have a daughter,
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: so I can't relate.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: But I yeah, yeah, I don't have kids.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: I feel like I understand the science, like I feel
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: like he he made a lot of sense, but I
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: just feel like I don't have kids. But if I did,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: I don't ever see myself getting a call like that
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: from my daughter and being able to do what he
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: did how he thought logically, and he did the whole like,
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: well if I do this, do that.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I don't see that for myself.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I think he was only able to do that
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: because he kind of knew in advance what he would
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: do in that situation. So I would have never thought
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: to do that. But now hearing that, I was like,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: I would copy that. That makes sense.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: You would copy that absolutely Trump. I know you would
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: not Trump Trump. You not doing that, son.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, look, look at my shades, nigga.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it. A nigga like you. You got
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: an edge, you don't get a nigga like you. You
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: got a mad logic, a lot of rationality. I get that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: But you get upset, nigga, of course, and you go
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: from yellow to red, and I know you not gonna
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: you not doing Trump?
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: You not doing that Trump.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: But that's the difference between a knee jerk emotional reaction
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: and prepping yourself. What am I gonna do in this
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: type of situation?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: This is your daughter.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Listen, we deal with life or death situations. As black
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: man walking the streets. We have to anticipate what we
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: might do in any given situation before it happens, because
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: we know what our emotional reaction is going to be.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: So if we can think about it ahead of time,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: like I know what I would want to do emotionally,
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: that's not the right thing to do.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: So, now knowing this strategy, it's fire because at no
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: point was he not willing to put hands on this nigga.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: But he needs to ask that question first to see
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: where her head's at and to see, all right, he
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: is she going to go back with him or not?
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: And based on that answer, I might go put some
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: hands and feet on him, or we might call the
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: cops or whatever. We'll take it from there. But it's
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: based off of that answer. I think it's very strategic
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: and it's very smart.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I think you're doing damn, don't I don't want to.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: This is an opinion.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: I have a tendency to be a little aggressive. I'm
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: trying to be as calm as possible, right, But one
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I think how old your daughter depends right in the situation.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like, yeah, is crazy. Your
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: daughter calls you and that's how you I feel like
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: you're doing a disservice as a dad. No, y'all niggas
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: crazy for a thousand reasons. Why I'm telling her to
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: call the cops. You absolutely for you.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Because they not there when I get there, because I'm
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: gonna have to see him Thanksgiving.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to see him. There's no way that
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not over there. They under see what I'm saying.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: It's less about like I understand the lessons and all
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: But my baby, my girls, how I'm just gonna be
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: cool with like, oh, you got locked up for that,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: you got locked up for that is not enough for me.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: So he gotta they gotta get there because I'm on
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: my way. You see what I'm saying, And he got
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a hope that whatever happens and before I see him
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: is enough. And can I add because I'm gonna see
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: him again.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's every time is gonna be like she's
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: gonna have to decide to leave because I'm not. There's
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: no way that I'm gonna be able to tell say.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: There's no way that I'm gonna be able just to
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: be in any in any space at any time to
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: see your face again and not want to punch it
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: in so just by virtue of that's gonna be. Well,
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: I'm say your father right, and I'm gonna be if ever,
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: we gotta have that moment. We gotta Yeah, we were
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: gonna have to figure it out because every time I
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: see this nigga, I'm punching.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: His head of we gotta have that. No, maybe, but Trump, listen,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think that Trump is thinking about the
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: entire situation as a whole, and I think it makes sense.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: But emotions don't necessarily make sense. And the emotional nigga,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I know I am. I'm not gonna put that he's
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: not in this type of situation because I've, like you said, I've.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Seen him go off and his daughters. He don't play.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say Trump, So I'm coming
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: from an emotional standpoint.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: What y'all missing from what he said the video? At
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: no point did he say he was not ready and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: willing to go over there and knock this nigga's heads off.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: He just had to ask that question first to see
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: where where her head was at.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: That's done. How was that dumb? Because he still did
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: something to your daughter? Yeah, did you understand what thom
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: is saying.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: He's saying if she says she's gonna suppose you, like
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: you call the cop, and she's like, okay, you know what,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: don't call the cops.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I'm coming exactly. He just wants to make sure.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: So that question is like a fucking a walk through, Like,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: all right, if you're willing to call the cops, that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: means you're willing to end this feeling, to end this
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: I will come and help.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: Her, even if even if she's not willing to Even
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: she says no, I'm not calling the cops, You're gonna
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: be like, oh, well, I'm not coming.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: If her answer is I don't want him to go
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: to jail, nothing, All I'm saying is you gotta be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: strategic about what you're going to do. I'm the type
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: of nigga where I know how I am and my
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: knee jerk reaction would be to go over there and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: not think about it. But I also would like to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: think a little bit better than that, more strategic. I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: would love to be the type of nigga that would
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: not do anything in the moment, but I catch you
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: two weeks from now when you least suspect it, and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: there's no way I'm going to jail because there's no
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: ties to me. Like that's what I would like to do,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: and that's how I think we should all aspire to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: do like that, because what's the benefit of me going
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: right over there and get myself locked up and then
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: you getting back with the nigga on top of all that?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Like, who the fuck wins at that point? Nobody? I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: just understood that line.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: You know, my whole life, I never knew niggas said
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: that revenge is best serve cold who want to eat
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: hot revenge.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you gotta think, and you gotta use a little
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: strategy and be patient and understand, like, you know what
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: I want to win. I don't want to just be
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: a victim to my emotions.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: But Trump, I'm not saying so.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I agree with you in reference of in the grand
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: scheme of things, it is a good play to run.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: But what I'm asking you is, do you think you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: possess the emotional awareness, emotional control, and the depth and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: self composure to not let your intrusive thoughts win.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: That's what my question is.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a good play, I agree with it, But
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: do you honestly think everybody got a plant get punch
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: in the mouth. Do you think if you get punched
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: in the mouth, that's how you're gonna respond Like that?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: I think if I ask the question, the answer will
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: help me better navigate the next step. That doesn't mean
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: that I'm not gonna while out and be victims for
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: my emotions, but it'll better set me up for the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: next step. So I think asking the question would only
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: be positive.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, I get that. I do have another caveat to this.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: That's just kind of an ending, right yo, Black men,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: we have to value our lives more, Yeah, and not
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: run towards losing it because we don't give a fuck.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I think that was a really important part of that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: message that you know, and that just goes to show you, like,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: as much as I know better, I don't know if
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: we're just bred that way, or maybe.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: That's just being a man, because maybe white men be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: the same. I've seen white men.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Videos where their kids they don't play about you know
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I just but I just feel
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: like when it comes to us, we can't just resort
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: to that first.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't. We have to realize that we have other
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: strengths and and your weapon.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Cachet can't just be your hands, right or your pistol.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: It has to do you know what I'm saying, it
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: has to be other things. By the way, what he said.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Swollen knuckles, what he says hits. You know what, Tom
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: is iceman.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: You got to pay the lyrics Iceman.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: I should too, kind of hypothetically, but along the same
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: line as like oh shit, no, seriously, like white man,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: any man, actually right, you want to be the man,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: the father in that situation where you could physically come
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: do something. Let's say the dad, it's four foot eleven,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: weighs ninety pounds. He can't, he don't, he don't he's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: not violent, he don't have no weapons, you don't know
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: how to work a gun, doesn't have a gun. Does
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: that mean he's not a good father because in that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: situation he can't respond the way one of us probably could.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: No how much he got in the bank. You insinuated, right,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: he can't.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: Right, So let's say he's loaded. You could put a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: hit out on whoever you want. My whole point is like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: it doesn't so that the reaction in that moment, does
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: that really dictate how much of a provider and protector
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: you are or how much of a good father that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: you are, because whether or not I'm ready to go
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: over there and physically get intoto something not good father
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: good Man could physically go over there and do something.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: You know, the worst thing you could do is go
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: over there and get beat up.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: Front.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I just thought about it, right, So me personally, I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: never once looked at getting angry from a different perspective.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: So the only think about if I get angry, you know,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: and me personally, Listen, I'm not saying it's a fact,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: but and when I'm mad enough, I truly feel like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: I'm unbeatable.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: What if a four eleven nigga knows that.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: He's beautiful and it's like, I'm probably gonna go this way,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna catch you later.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I never thought about it.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Gotta be strategic. That's the nigga that's gonna come back
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: two weeks from now and set you up and get
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: your you know, bomb your your car or something.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Is this a Tyler Perry movie or some Joe Jackson
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: sh Sorry, y'all, I took a video of y'all talking.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a great conversation. Let me wait
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: till the ship uh loads?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, last topic of the day. It still goes into
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: being a parent. It's slightly hard to selfish.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Because I'm here. I just thought it was a good
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: commo freak. Yes, nigga, it's slightly harder selfish. What does
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: he mean by that? I don't know what the fuck
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: does that?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Being Kobe Bryant, I don't really know if I want
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to go into this matter of fact, I think I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: will say this far off, but it's gonna it's US
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: three on Hardest Off anyway, So just play it with
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Trump here and Trump has a but it's kind of weird.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Remember head, you can't, no, no, no, you can't, cause you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: did say last week that Trump wasn't need Trump wasn't
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: would you say Trump, you wasn't invited to Hardest Off?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Or you wasn't you couldn't offer anything? Thank you. I've
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: been before.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I know, I know, but I'm just sitting to say
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: that I don't have anything to offer.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: I think Trum was a freaky as nigga.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: No Trump, he was like, yo, he was like hard
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: is that He's like? Is that only for real freaks?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: Trump?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I want you to come back to hard to Soft.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I want to have a conversation. I think I think
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: you know what, you know, he can't really view of
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: how he views.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: So my response to that was, like, if this is
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: about sex and exploring different forms of sex, like, why
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: not have somebody that may not consider themselves a freak,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: they still enjoy sex and they still want to explore
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: sexuality and things like that. Why not have a range
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: of people that you could talk.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: The original point of Hardest Soft right when it first
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: first came out, Well, it had many different objectives, but
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: one it was supposed to be like a safe space
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: for niggas to discuss ship. Then it turned into like
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: sexual education. Then it also was one of the objectives
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: of giving black vennell of people a space to maybe
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: come and maybe learn some ship because to us everything
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: just seems.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Taboo, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: So with all that being said, I don't see why
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: there wouldn't be a seat for.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: You on the show. You know what I'm saying, I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: don't see you. I think you should come on up.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: You smoke that again, sometimes I'll be smoking ships a
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: case iceman.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: All right, Being that y'all said that y'all want to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: talk about this ship, I will ask. And once I ask,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: once I read this, y'all are gonna know why I said.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And get out. I'm ready call sex with Ashley shout
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: out to sex with shout. She says, unpopular opinion by
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: your teenage daughters a vibrator. Yo, it's out the mine
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: now before you unfollow or block me, hear me out.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: When boys hit puberty, they're curious, is expected. People joke
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: about it. Hell it's damn. They're treated like a rite
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: of passage. But when girls become curious about their bodies,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: suddenly everybody gets scared, quiet, or judgmental.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: That double standard is the problem. Your teenage daughter is
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: going through puberty. Her body's changing, her hormones are changing,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: her curiosity is changing, her relationship with herself is changing.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And if you don't help her understand that in a healthy,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: age appropriate way, somebody else will. And baby that somebody
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: else might be TikTok porn the group chat, or a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: little big head boy with no bed frame and too
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: much confidence. Parents get uncomfortable with pleasure conversations because they
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: think information equals permission. But education is not permission to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: do everything education is protection. You can teach a girl
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: about her body, her privacy, her boundaries, her consent, and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: self respect without pushing her in to anything. We talk
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to girls about periods, we talk to them about bras,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: We talk to them about pregnancy, we talk to them
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: about STIs. We tell them don't let these boys play
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: with you. But really, we rarely tell them your body
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: belongs to you before it belongs to anybody else.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: And that part matters.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Because a girl who understands her body is less likely
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: to let somebody else be the expert on it. She's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: more likely to know when something feels uncomfortable. She's more
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: likely to recognize when she feels pressured. She's more likely
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: to understand that curiosity does not mean she owes anyone access.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I believe girls should learn about their bodies before they
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: are ever in a position where someone else is trying
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: to convince them what their body should want, because a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: partner should not be the first person to introduce a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: girl to herself. That's how too many women end up
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: confusing attention with intimacy and pressure with desire.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Which wrong. When she said, mmm, I think it's brilliant,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I was hating at first.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: But as you said, as she started explaining, I said, damn,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: she's she's actually right.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I whole disagree though she's actually right. I know you disagree.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: She's actually right.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I was. I wanted to hate on it, but she
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: don't say nothing wrong, my wife. I'm not picking absorbed
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: to absorb. It is crazy. Just the sentence like, as
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: a father, I'm not giving my daughter no, no, no,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: that's not your play. Right then what about a nigga
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: from the hardest show, a nigga. I'm not giving my
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: daughter to a nigga from the heart talking about you?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Forget you being a father from the hard show?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Why not? Okay?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: So would I be okay with a mother doing that
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: for her daughter. I think it doesn't start there. I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: don't think the conversation starts there. I think the conversation
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: starts with a real sexual education. Uh far past what
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: we learned in sex said when I was.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: In school, when I was right, we have a real.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Conversation about curiosity and how you're feeling, and you know
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: what may feel good because I don't feel good, I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: don't feel horrible talking to my boys about what might
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: feel good. I don't think i'd be like that uncomfortable
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I would be as a man talking to a daughter,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: so I would presume that it'd be easier for a woman.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Now, my lady, she probably will.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Disagree, because I think that women will want to protect
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: their daughters from opening up that Pandora's box.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: You can't close that once you started. Once you open it, right,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: you can't close it. But my thing is my thing
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: is this right one?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: You're correct doesn't start with just buying your kid a
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: vibrator and fucking sophomore year. The conversation and the introduction
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: to it should start. I think you should start having
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: these conversations with your kids from the time to even
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: know what like sex is.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and you know what? When
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: do you?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: I mean now, with social media out and ship like that,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: when it starts a lot younger.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: It's actually very young. I'll be honest.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: I have a distinctive memory in my mind of me
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: being horny in kindergarten before I knew what horney was.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: I swear to God, if I'm lying, I'm fucking dying,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: I'm keeping it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Abut I remember, I remember the first.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: Time I'm not he was broke a hundred with you, bro.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: I had that feeling when I was very young, before
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: I knew what it even meant like. I literally remember
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: who I was looking at. I remember why and when
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: I felt like that, my nigga. So I say that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: to say this right, it's I don't talk on this show.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: It's better to have your child prepared and informed than
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: to be caught off guard. I say that to say
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: one the worst part about it is what happens if
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: the person that introduces it to you is a piece
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: of ship.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Now you have this attachment of what feels good, the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: best feeling you've ever had and ever known, and it's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: attached to a personal treats you like shit. So now
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: you acute, you couruse you correlate being treated like shit
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: with fucking pleasure.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's it goes beyond sexual.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: It's also mental intimate, it's romantic.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: All that shit ties into it, and I feel something
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: that should conversation that should be have.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: It shouldn't parent, though, but I think that I think
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: your parent is the person that has to teach you that,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: because they're the only person in your life that's not
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: getting anything out of teaching you that or they can't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: them hoarding information doesn't affect them in the same way
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: that somebody would that's dealing with you, Right, So somebody
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: that's dealing with you, they can get to a point
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: where it's like, I don't want you to have ctain
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: information because it's beneficial to me that you don't know this.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: As opposed to a parent, that's it's a different type
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: of mindset. The parents like, I want you to have
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: all the information everything, whether or not you're using it.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: But no, I know what I'm saying. I don't have
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: kids sothing. That's just I wouldn't know what he thinks
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: about this.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: So again, I think it's brilliant. I think that you're
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: pushback about open up the Pandora's box and what Loun said,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: you don't want to start there, I agree with. I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: don't think the young lady that said that would start
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: there either. She started off with that because that's what's engaging,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: that's what got us into their conversation, Like the extreme,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: you're going to give you a kid a dildo, So
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: she started off with that, bring us into the conversation,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: and then everything she said after that was sheer intelligence
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: and very thoughtful. So she never said that I'm doing
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: it in this order. I'm gonna give them a vibrating
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: be like, here, go have at it. There's steps to it,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: and the steps would clearly be to have a conversation first,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: to have to lead up to that point where you
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: introduce something physical like that. But I think the whole
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: idea of it, the science of it, is brilliant. Like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that have been taboo in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: the black family that just have only been destructive to us,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: especially finances. I talked to my parents about this shit.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: To this day, I'm like, Yo, why you ain't telling
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: me about none of this? Y'all raised me really well
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: and everything provided for me. I learned about the credit
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: when I was forty years old, Like, why y'all ain't
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: tell me about.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: This about credit? When my card got shut off? That's
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: what I learned there was a limit.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: So in the same way, and we talk about team pregnancy,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: we talk about boys getting girls pregnant, like why we
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: need to have these taboo conversations? So I agree that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: it shouldn't start with a deal, though, But I also
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: don't think that she was suggesting that. I think that's
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: a part of the whole erasing the taboo, have tough conversations,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: introduce things that might feel uncomfortable, but it's probably gonna
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: be benefiting the long run. I agree with everything that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: where she was going. I know it'll be difficult. I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: don't know if I'd be the one to do it,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: but maybe the mother could could do it either way.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: I think a parent should be willing and able to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: And tell I feel the answer to your question is eleven.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: That's the age eleven what the youngest Yeah, oh you
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: or what?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: No? When you should have that conversation eleven years old? Correct?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: I think when they gets to middle school eleven, sixth
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: grade and because sixth yeah, because sixth grade is junior high,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: you feel me, that's when, like maybe not necessarily for
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: women all the time, but that's when niggas.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Start to get that dog in them, you know what
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: And because so I'm big on this all the time,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: Like I say, I say this, I've said this on
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: mad shows before. I don't want my kids being introduced
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: to any adult like shit until their of age, whether
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: that's things that are of lgbt qya or sex.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see you. I don't want you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Nobody fucking at fucking six, seven, eight years old. I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: don't want you to see nothing about nothing. I want
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: you to have any kind of influence. But I feel
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: at eleven, this is when niggas are now starting to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: nig out. This is hugue, when girls maybe sometimes start
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: to get their cycle, not sure. This is also when
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: you see guys and girls start to explore their sexuality.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Junior high is like the grassy that's where all that
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: shear starts to take place. Also, junior high is the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: stepping stone to.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: What high school. High school is the horny Olympics. You
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, you could be for.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: You could get in the ju you get in the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: high school early at thirteen, and being school with a
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: nigga as nineteen. You know what I'm saying, These are
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: things that people have to be prepared for. So now
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: you got this ninety year old to talk and you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: now your fucking uters is slipping upside down. No, you're
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: on your cycle. You're probably extra horny. Don't make that mistake.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: This nigga's probably extra horny. Probably don't really.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Like you don't give into it.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: These are things that we have to prepare our children
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: for before this shit hit is the fan, not just women,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: but also niggas. You don't want your son to be
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: super duple hoyn ain't looking like the fucking you know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: the grape nigga in the.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: School, because that is a real thing. Niggas be sexually
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: unaware sometimes, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: So these are conversations that I feel should start the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: minute your childhood a junior high school.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Now, don't bottom of vibrate.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you why, because if I'm on lunch
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: and I get three phone coalls from from my I'm
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: calling back with the urgency like your dad the fucking
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: vibrator died.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pissed, Beau. Why you called me for
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: a broken call? Your mother pretty sure wouldn't because you
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: bought it. She's gonna call your daddy. You can't didn't
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: have insurance. I did see a kid that brought the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: roads to.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 14: I saw that that but the teacher.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: The teacher text the mom like, yo, I don't think
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: you yeah, I don't think you know. Send her a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: picture of it, and the mother's like I know you fucking.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: And the teacher said, what.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Great episode. There is one last video I'll play on
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: our way out.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: It is uh.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: The ending of the first We've already did part one
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: of the saga where there was a guy I think
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: I did it in the I released a clip today
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. He took a woman on a date. She
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: had five shots of nineteen forty two. She ordered everything
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: on the meal or everything on the menu, and so
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: when he was leaving, he was trying to get some
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: of the food that she was taking to.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Go and she was like, nigga, what this is my food?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: And he was like, nah, I paid for it, and
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: so she snatched the bag, jump into uber and then
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: blocked his ass, like fuck out of here. Right, that
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: was his story that he was telling. We found a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: woman who also told the story. Now it's looking a
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: little skittish because she's not even responding to him. She's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: just telling her side of the story or whatever. But
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: just to you know, close this saga saga, let's hear
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: from the woman.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, he was black and she I'm match
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: with this. Yeah. We hit it off in the chat.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: So we decided to go out for drinks and dinner.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: He takes me to a cute Italian place. We get
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: there for a rest innervation, but our table still isn't ready,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: so we end to the bar with this guy says
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: that he's not drinking, which is a little weird for
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: drinks and dinner, but whatever, I'm still gonna have a drink.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: He's already up.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: At this point, been overly aggressive on the whole I've
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: got money. I could spoil you that whole thing, so
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: I said bet. I ordered Tekeila on the Rocks nineteen.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Forty two, to be exact.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: If he wants to treat me, I'm gonna let him
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: treat me. So maybe ten minutes goes by, we're still
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: at the bar talking, or at least he is. He
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: has not let me get a word in otherwise. I
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: finally start hinting around shaking my glass, and he asked
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: me if I want another one. I say yes, because
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna need it. Finally, our table is ready.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: We get set.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: He's still talking about his money, his career, how successful
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: He asked me what I want?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I say, why don't we get a little bit of everything?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: He said, okay, I like that. So the waiter comes over.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: He points to me, so I start ordering. I orders
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: advertizer entrees again, a little bit of everything, and another
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: nineteen forty two. At this point, he hasn't asked anything
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: about me. So, yeah, I'm gonna have another drink because
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna need it.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: I'm feeling good.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a little buzzed.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: At this point, and I think I can actually survive
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: this date. The food finally comes out and he starts
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: eating everything, literally everything. I get up, I have to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: use the bathroom a couple times. I come back, most
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: of the food is gone. He makes some weird comment
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: about wasting food. He hates to waste food.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: But I haven't even gotten any. I'm starting to nibble a.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Little bit here, a little bit there. And then the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: waiter comes over and he just starts getting to go
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: boxes and the bill. So I'm like, okay, I offered a.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Split the bill.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: I always do that as like a courtesy, but he
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: just laughs and hands the card over. He asked me
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: how I got there, I said, a ubered. So I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: end up calling an uber and we're waiting.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: And waiting and waiting.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: He's still talking about himself surprised. It finally gets there,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: we hug, we Sarah goodbyes, and I go to take
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: the back off the table of overst and he starts
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: freaking out. He was like, why are you taking that?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: So I said, I'm taking home my half.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: You ate everything.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: He starts trying to negotiate why he should get the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: rest of the food I paid, even though I offered.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: At this point, I've just had enough. I grabbed the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: bag and I start heading out the door.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: He's following me.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I get in the uber and I just sit there
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: and I stare straight right ahead and pretend he does
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: not even exist. After some time, we finally could go in,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: and no sooner than we pulled away blocked.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: There is never a situation or a circumstance whereas a nigga,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: you should be battling for leftovers, like even without evil,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: Like when you just even without hearing her and without
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: knowing anything that happened, I knew he was wrong, Like
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't even have to hear that, Like I didn't
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: need to hear none of that that wrong.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: From the time the story started. I didn't even see
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: the ship on your page, and I know he was wrong.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: You can't fight, like even if you even what she said,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: is bro, you you know you went to y'all got
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: all the time, especially you a nigga that you know.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine battling with Tonay for a leftover? She's
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: like leftover princess, Like that's how bad? You don't never
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: say ing bag, You don't say nothing that well. You
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: called me and you tell me to take a call,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: you'll call me. But as the end of the day,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: as a nigga, as a man, certain you have to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: take and leftovers one of them you can't.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: I can't. I wish a nigga called me talking about leftover.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but I think it's it's
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: a bad look for her too. Are you fighting over
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: leftovers for a meal that somebody else paid for or not.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, both of y'all would probably agree that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: this is the last, the first and the last date
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: at some point like cut your losses, but you know what,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: ahead take the ship. On either side of that, I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: would be like, go ahead, take the shit, because if
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: I'm the woman and I noticed that I don't like
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: this nigga, I'm not going to try to take something
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: where now he feels like he got something on me,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: I owe him or whatever.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: He paid for everything, buta dah dah like.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't want my daughter to take no food from
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: a nigga like that, especially somebody that's grabbing for it.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, take it, you paid for it. I would
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: never want to see you again. I can go in
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: and order some food when I get home.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: It's whack on both sides. I will say this. The
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: only other thing that I want to addressing this is
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: that niggas that lead with money, I'm happy deserve that shit.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: Because when we first was talking about it, I was like, damn,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: what kind of shit is that? It's that, you know,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: entitlemental order the most expensive thing people in the comments
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: was like, oh, she probably wouldn't order that on her
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: own dime. But niggas that lead with money are gonna
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: get taken advantage of it and they deserve it. So
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: I ain't even mat at her for that one.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: I was I was just about to say that because
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: I was looking at her and I was like, damn,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: Like but and again, you know, everybody has their bags.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: So it's like if you feel like that's what you
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: wanted to do or that's what you led with. Then
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 6: I feel like you have to do that all the way.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: It can't be like it can't be like, all right.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I said it. You hear me. I said it to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: get you here.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: But then when it's happening, I'm like, now I'm trying
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: to portion ship and ration short and ship. It's like, nah,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: I hate that. I hate when people do that. I'm
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: gonna be honest. I'm also not being honest. I think
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: I was lying to y'all left overs.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Of that. Now I'm gonna keep it on.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't get to tell the story of the story
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: is not that old, Right, I go on a date
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: with a young lady, right, go to my spot.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: I know what I'm ordering. No, he said, it's not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: that always being honest, I actually believe the story. He said.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: It was, y'all know my body. I wander to see
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: you hear it the voice you're good telling you So,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: y'all know my body. Order the seafood pasta, right, that's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: my shit. So she goes, you know what, that sounds
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: really good. I'm gonna get that too. I'm like, all, yeah,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. She ordered her drinks whatever,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: I don't care. Whatever, it's my first she fired, you know, cool.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: I finish my shit, right, She ain't finished hers, she
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: ain't finished most of hers. So I'm like, all whatever,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: take it to go. She come back to my crip now.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Night went perfectly, watching TV, you know, drinking, she drinking wine.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: End up beating the bricks off that shit right right
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: after I nuts. My mind just went somewhere and it
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: went to the leftover. So what I did was because
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: I knew I wanted that. I had put it in
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: the fridge as soon as we got here, and I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: knew if I wowed her enough, she will.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Forget that it was in the fridge. Fel me. So
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: I'm here giving her the best night possible by mama.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you so close, you so close. Just keep it going,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: keep it going, keep it going. So I hit her
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: with her Ah, yeah, you know, I'm gonna go to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: work now. Whatever it was, it wasn't early, it was.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: It was up for a couple hours and I had cool.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: So I call her a lyft or the uber or whatever.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know, listen, you know, just give
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: me an addy whatever, Yo, how don't make sure you're
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: free this day.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go out again.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: She's like, okay, cool nigga. I slammed the door to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: uber polls off. I was like, thank you Jesus Christ.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: Now the food is in the microwave. I put it
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: on for two minutes and twenty two seconds. When that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: ship hit a minute in eighteen seconds, my phone rings.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot the leftovers. I'm like, oh shit,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: you right? Fuck you coming back? She goes, nah, I'm
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: too far.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: I was like yes, I'm like, all yo, we're gonna
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: go back to that spot I have never been.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: I knew I wanted them.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: I wanted the left over and the minute it was
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: on the plate, but I had to be smooth with it.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: I couldn't snash the shit from.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: But you gotta have you gotta have plays. So that's
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: my leftover play. If I really want to, like, if
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: I want this left over, I gotta fuck tonight. I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: got to hit it with Dick so good. She forget
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: the food is in the frieze, and that's always my play.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: I'm three for three. I guess how I am the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: left As.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Much as I want to clown him right now, I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: kind of feel I don't. I'm I'm not mad at them. Y'all,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: he did all that for some food, Like he fucked
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: that better because the food was in there and he
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: wanted her to forget about the food. Y'all going for that?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: I know I'm not going for it, but I see it.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: The idea of what he's saying is downright bizarre. I'm
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: not even going to dress your what she forgot about
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: the food. It's not like he was.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Just put it in the fridge so that she won't
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: see it and think about it at the door. But
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: that's what her to forget her left.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: I would have gave it to him, she would have fridge.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been I haven't acted like.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I ain't have food because I didn't want to feed it.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Ship I've starved myself. I've starved myself because I didn't
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: want to share.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: So that's okay. So that's just real. So that's okay, though.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: But I didn't do anything extra performance. I didn't put
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: in a whole performance because I didn't want to share.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: I just acted like I wouldn't hungry if my stomach
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Loan was on three Car, I don't go to that
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: spot that. I don't go to that spot that off.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I don't get that too, yeah, said left They literally
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: fucked it out of her left over. That's not I
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: better not be the type. Ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much for pulling up another week of
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: so shameless is going by. I gotta find myself something
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: to eat. I'm pretty sure my lady for you today too.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: She probably stole my salmon. I know she's an eyeing
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: it the minute she seen that it was in there. Trump,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your input today, loans. Thank
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: you so much for White's premises putting up the bees
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the bees?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Uh yesterday? Are you comfortable with the Drake conversation that
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: we had? Was it well rounded? Nah? You ain't keep
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: it a buck. I was comfortable. You lied a lot,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: but you you you?
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: You do this yes, because I have an issue though
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: I see he always addresses it. I keep quiet. You
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: tee the lines a lot. Bro, you are a real semantic.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: You see this line right there.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: You go here and here often, and I'm not I'm not.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna start policing you. I'm gonna start being n
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: y p T niggas New York Police Department of Towel
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: because you'll be on some bullshit that yeah.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: You gotta pick us, yo.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: You don't know what he be saying though, Like he
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: don't be honest to you niggas. Like this supervised, per
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: fucking media control tower, Nigga, he be talking crazy about
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: Drake and Ship that you want to come play ice man.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Niggas. He put this nigg on a cross. I sat
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: there and be quiet because family equity. But he put
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: this nigg on a cross, and now you're gonna come
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: here today and be like, yeah, you know as a drink.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: You know what you are? You an that's why. That's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You a snake. You have a T shirt.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: You have a T shirt on with the sleeveless Oh
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: you got to show Michaels.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: They said you got on a sleeveless shirt with a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: sleeve shirt.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, why is she so shameless?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: Why do you have a sleeveless shirt on over a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: sleeved shirt. Look, your man, your mad niggas was scooping
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: at Duke in the Ninetiesga.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: You also got a Toronto Blue Jay's head on. I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: thought that was in supported Drake. Yeah, that's what you.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: Truma is really afraid. Trum make you look good.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: You half around you gotta keep it around, bro, I've
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: been wearing the Toronto since fucking I've been wearing this
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: all weekend. Really, why why this weekend though,