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- 0:06Speaker 1: Welcome to Group Porsche, the podcast that uncovers the hidden
- 0:09Speaker 1: treasures within grief. I'm your host, Porsche the Producer, and
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm inviting you to join me on a transformative journey
- 0:15Speaker 1: where we were exchange laughter, of course the best medicine
- 0:18Speaker 1: of them all, reflect on cherish memories, remember that time
- 0:21Speaker 1: that the little boy grabbed my hand instead of his
- 0:23Speaker 1: mother's at the amusement park yikes, And of course, discover
- 0:26Speaker 1: gratitude while navigating one of life's hardest challenges lost. So
- 0:31Speaker 1: get ready to grow with me, Porsche the Producer, let's
- 0:35Speaker 1: dive in. Hello everybody, and welcome back to Grow with Porsche.
- 0:47Speaker 1: I am your host, Porsche Booker, and as always, don't
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- 0:52Speaker 1: the latest and greatest of all, with Grew with Porsche.
- 0:55Speaker 1: So a few months ago I had the honor of
- 0:59Speaker 1: being interviewed or talked with by a medium and those
- 1:02Speaker 1: of you who know I talked with the medium shortly
- 1:05Speaker 1: after my mom made her transition, and also someone gifted
- 1:08Speaker 1: me with another conversation with her, and one of the
- 1:11Speaker 1: things that she said to me was, Porsche, you have
- 1:15Speaker 1: to do Porsche, you have to do things the Porsche away.
- 1:19Speaker 1: This is what your mom wants me to tell you,
- 1:21Speaker 1: and how many of us tend to bury who we
- 1:25Speaker 1: are by the pressures of society, especially as women, when
- 1:30Speaker 1: we experience grief and loss and we have to put
- 1:33Speaker 1: on a mask to pretend that we're okay. But where
- 1:36Speaker 1: they really were not, so really, let that sink in today, everybody.
- 1:40Speaker 1: So today, everyone, I have the honor of being joined
- 1:43Speaker 1: by a woman who is redefining what success is for
- 1:47Speaker 1: not just women, but for others around the world. She's
- 1:50Speaker 1: also a author of a best selling book called h
- 1:55Speaker 1: I Buried Her in a French press. She is also
- 1:58Speaker 1: the host of a podcast called Let's Talk Supply Chain.
- 2:02Speaker 1: So welcome Miss Sarah Barnes Humphrey to Grow with Porsia. Sarah,
- 2:06Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you today. How are you.
- 2:08Speaker 2: It is such a pleasure. Thank you so much for
- 2:11Speaker 2: having me on the show. I'm super excited to be
- 2:13Speaker 2: here and I can't wait to dive into what we're
- 2:15Speaker 2: going to talk about today.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You know, Sarah, I got to throw this in here.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I noticed when we were talking before we started the conversation. Today.
- 2:23Speaker 1: You have a second podcast called Blended and I recognize
- 2:26Speaker 1: that there's a little bit of a coffee theme going here.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So I'm curious, Sarah, what what's your way of what's
- 2:33Speaker 1: your favorite kind of coffee?
- 2:37Speaker 2: Well, I have I have an espresso machine. I have
- 2:40Speaker 2: to say, I really really like it. Okay, I'm able
- 2:44Speaker 2: to have like all sorts of different coffees. So it
- 2:46Speaker 2: depends what day, like how I feel in the morning.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So you know, they've got the B six capsule, they've
- 2:52Speaker 2: got the pumpkin spice, and so depending or the caramel.
- 2:55Speaker 2: So depending on how I feel that day, that determines
- 2:59Speaker 2: what kind of coffe I'm gonna in the morning.
- 3:00Speaker 1: You know, I wondered if there was a statistic out
- 3:04Speaker 1: about if the type of coffee you like determined like
- 3:09Speaker 1: you're a dating life type of thing. I wondered about that.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Now me, I like my coffee dark, like my soul
- 3:14Speaker 1: and my sense of humor. So you I mean, people
- 3:19Speaker 1: know I do I drink my coffee dark, no sugar,
- 3:22Speaker 1: no cream, just dark like my soul.
- 3:25Speaker 2: I wish I can't do it, so I actually can't
- 3:28Speaker 2: have dairy, and so I have this creamer that is
- 3:31Speaker 2: cashew and coconut, Okay, And I can't do dark coffee,
- 3:36Speaker 2: like well not dark coffee, but like black coffee without
- 3:39Speaker 2: anything in it. And actually, I'm going to dominicate tomorrow
- 3:44Speaker 2: and I'm really worried they're not going to have creamer
- 3:46Speaker 2: for me. So I might have to dump a whole
- 3:47Speaker 2: bunch of sugar into the coffee just so I can
- 3:49Speaker 2: drink it.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Or you can always water it down a little bit,
- 3:53Speaker 1: just put some water in there maybe, Or if they
- 3:56Speaker 1: have non dairy ice cream, that's another I need. So
- 4:00Speaker 1: there you go. I'm just throwing out ideas to you,
- 4:02Speaker 1: sail great ideas.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Those are idea.
- 4:06Speaker 1: You know, we're grateful for coffee, right because you can
- 4:08Speaker 1: have any flavor throughout the day, throughout the week. Right.
- 4:12Speaker 1: I'm sure that you'll have probably a Sarah branded coffee
- 4:17Speaker 1: for Mondays or Tuesdays. But Sarah, other than coffee, what
- 4:20Speaker 1: else are you grateful for today?
- 4:22Speaker 2: I am grateful for you. I'm grateful for being on
- 4:27Speaker 2: this podcast. I'm grateful for the roof over my head,
- 4:32Speaker 2: and I'm grateful for my bonus children and my husband
- 4:35Speaker 2: and my dogs. There's a lot to be grateful for.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I agree. I tell everybody that you can find gratitude
- 4:42Speaker 1: in any and everything. I write in my gratitude journal
- 4:45Speaker 1: every single day, and Sarah, I even write about being
- 4:48Speaker 1: grateful for my grief journey. I remember shortly after both
- 4:52Speaker 1: my parents made their transition, when I was sitting at
- 4:55Speaker 1: the funeral home for my dad's service before everybody else,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I took time to write how grateful I was for
- 5:00Speaker 1: the time that we spent together, even the terrible moments
- 5:04Speaker 1: that we had in our life that we couldn't, you know,
- 5:06Speaker 1: have the father daughter relationship that I desired. But at
- 5:10Speaker 1: the same time, that taught me to appreciate the relationships
- 5:13Speaker 1: that I have today, even with the you know, the
- 5:16Speaker 1: guy who I'm currently with right now. But that's a
- 5:18Speaker 1: whole story for a whole nother day.
- 5:21Speaker 2: It's so beautiful, though, and I think sometimes we miss
- 5:25Speaker 2: out on that because we're so focused on the lack
- 5:29Speaker 2: or you know, what it is that we wish we had,
- 5:33Speaker 2: and when we focus on those things, we forget what
- 5:36Speaker 2: it is that is good in our lives and what
- 5:39Speaker 2: we could be grateful for. I don't want to say
- 5:42Speaker 2: we should, because I think there's too many shoulds, and
- 5:45Speaker 2: you know, there's too much societal pressure on a variety
- 5:47Speaker 2: of levels. But I think the could word right, like
- 5:50Speaker 2: the gratitude that we could have just for the little things.
- 5:53Speaker 2: And I think also it helps us see science. Yes,
- 5:57Speaker 2: when we're grateful, right, we see the pebbles, we see
- 5:59Speaker 2: the signs, and those signs really help us to figure
- 6:03Speaker 2: out whether we're in the right place at the right
- 6:05Speaker 2: time for ourselves.
- 6:07Speaker 1: You know, oh, one hundred percent. Oh, We're gonna have
- 6:10Speaker 1: to have a part two to talk about just signs, Sarah,
- 6:13Speaker 1: because I've seen many since both of my parents have
- 6:16Speaker 1: made their transitions from the lottery tickets that I find
- 6:19Speaker 1: they haven't won yet hopefully one will be the winner,
- 6:23Speaker 1: but the tickets, the birds, the numbers, right, it opened
- 6:29Speaker 1: me up to a different form of communication and even
- 6:33Speaker 1: the signs from looking at past versions of myself. A
- 6:38Speaker 1: few months ago, I was going through some old footage
- 6:41Speaker 1: from when I used to anchor, and I buried that
- 6:43Speaker 1: part of my story, Sarah, for years because I was
- 6:46Speaker 1: ashamed about the career path that I aspired to have
- 6:51Speaker 1: that didn't come to fruition. And I'm curious, Sarah, for you,
- 6:55Speaker 1: You've had different losses in your life to get to
- 6:58Speaker 1: where you are today, Different past versions of you possibly
- 7:03Speaker 1: health challenges, right, heartbreaks that we go through, even being
- 7:08Speaker 1: you know, discredited because you're in a predominantly male dominated industry.
- 7:13Speaker 1: And I'm curious, Sarah, what did it take for you
- 7:16Speaker 1: to integrate all of these different losses and the grief
- 7:21Speaker 1: of your life not going in the direction that you
- 7:24Speaker 1: wanted it to become the woman who we see today.
- 7:28Speaker 2: That's such a great question. I want to acknowledge and
- 7:30Speaker 2: appreciate you for sharing your grief journey and for like
- 7:34Speaker 2: talking about your past self and you know how you
- 7:37Speaker 2: buried it, but how you want to bring it back
- 7:39Speaker 2: because I think you know, what I talk about in
- 7:42Speaker 2: the book is the fact that we can learn so
- 7:45Speaker 2: much about our life experiences as long as we give
- 7:48Speaker 2: ourselves a little bit more grace and you know, focus
- 7:51Speaker 2: on it being a journey, and that we can learn
- 7:53Speaker 2: about ourselves, we can learn about others, and we can
- 7:56Speaker 2: just keep going right. And you know, I went through
- 8:01Speaker 2: I went through a lot, right, and I talk about
- 8:03Speaker 2: it in the book. I have an autoimmune disease that
- 8:07Speaker 2: took me fifteen years to even figure out what it was.
- 8:10Speaker 2: You know, I went to a vein doctor that told
- 8:13Speaker 2: me that if I just started running, I'd be fine
- 8:16Speaker 2: because runners don't have fat legs. I was like, not
- 8:19Speaker 2: very helpful, but thanks. And then I worked for the
- 8:23Speaker 2: family business for about twenty years and it was the
- 8:26Speaker 2: worst day of my life when we closed the doors.
- 8:30Speaker 2: And it wasn't just the worst day of my life
- 8:32Speaker 2: for me, but like there was one hundred and fifty
- 8:34Speaker 2: other people that lost their jobs that day, and I
- 8:38Speaker 2: lost my future. I lost everything that I had been
- 8:42Speaker 2: working towards because I wanted to take over the company
- 8:44Speaker 2: one day. I'd never been on an interview, you know,
- 8:48Speaker 2: I'd never had to really look for a job, and
- 8:53Speaker 2: I lost my whole sense of self that day. I
- 8:56Speaker 2: really had no idea what I was going to do.
- 8:59Speaker 2: And it was interesting because in order to be able
- 9:02Speaker 2: to find myself again, I just had to take small
- 9:05Speaker 2: steps every single day. There was some days I put
- 9:08Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on myself to be like, no,
- 9:10Speaker 2: you have to do all these big things to be
- 9:13Speaker 2: able to like get over what it is that you're
- 9:16Speaker 2: you know, maybe wallowing on the couch about. And also
- 9:19Speaker 2: there was a lot of questions, right, you know, my
- 9:23Speaker 2: dad's the family business was in the same industry, and
- 9:27Speaker 2: it was like how can I be the voice in
- 9:29Speaker 2: this industry after what just happened? Like, why would anybody
- 9:33Speaker 2: listen to me? Why would they trust me? Why would
- 9:35Speaker 2: they respect me? And if I had listened to that,
- 9:38Speaker 2: I wouldn't be where I where I am today.
- 9:40Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree there, I mean, you've really reinvented
- 9:45Speaker 1: right from a space of oh great, one hundred and
- 9:48Speaker 1: fifty other people including me, are starting over from scratch. Literally, yeah, no, nothing.
- 9:55Speaker 1: You never had to really apply for a job because
- 9:57Speaker 1: you just went right into the family business. You learned
- 10:01Speaker 1: everything there, right, And so now where do I go?
- 10:06Speaker 1: And there's so many people, Sarah, who are in that
- 10:10Speaker 1: crossroad right now where they've lost themselves through different career transitions,
- 10:19Speaker 1: life transitions. As I brought up about my mom's transition,
- 10:22Speaker 1: my dad's transition, me leaving the corporate space. It'll be
- 10:26Speaker 1: five years and twenty twenty six that I've been an entrepreneur.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Congratulations, by the way.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. It has been one of the
- 10:35Speaker 1: most rewarding yet trying experiences that I've ever had. But
- 10:39Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way because when I
- 10:42Speaker 1: think back to my television career, I aspired to go
- 10:47Speaker 1: all the way up the ladder, just like you. I'm like, Okay,
- 10:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna travel around the world, be this big producer
- 10:53Speaker 1: in the news world and make my family proud. Right.
- 10:56Speaker 1: But it didn't come to fruition for a reason. But
- 10:59Speaker 1: there was still that passion in my soul and in
- 11:02Speaker 1: my heart to tell stories. There was still that fire,
- 11:06Speaker 1: and that's what led me to here today, to hosting
- 11:10Speaker 1: grul Porsia, to creating it where I'm able to tell
- 11:13Speaker 1: the stories in the way that I want to and
- 11:14Speaker 1: really connect with people and help them to see the
- 11:18Speaker 1: hitting gift that's been born from their transitions, their grief journeys.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I love that.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I mean I had the podcast before the company closed
- 11:29Speaker 2: its doors. And it's such an interesting story because when
- 11:33Speaker 2: the doors closed, sure everybody was out, including me, but
- 11:37Speaker 2: I lost my team and I lost my co hosts,
- 11:39Speaker 2: and I had companies paying to come on the show.
- 11:41Speaker 2: So I had an obligation to fulfill that or refund
- 11:46Speaker 2: the money, and so you know, I decided that I
- 11:51Speaker 2: would lean into all of it and learn graphic design
- 11:55Speaker 2: and social media, website design, you name it. I had
- 11:58Speaker 2: to learn it just to keep podcast going. And I
- 12:01Speaker 2: had no idea that it could go anywhere. I'll be
- 12:04Speaker 2: perfectly frank, I had no idea that the podcast could
- 12:07Speaker 2: go anywhere, let alone where we are today because we've
- 12:11Speaker 2: got a team of fourteen people ninety eight percent or
- 12:14Speaker 2: women owned businesses, which we're very proud of. But I
- 12:17Speaker 2: had no idea where it could go. But I got
- 12:19Speaker 2: up every single day to do it right. Like it
- 12:22Speaker 2: gave me the why, it gave me the purpose of, Hey,
- 12:25Speaker 2: this is the only thing I got going for me
- 12:27Speaker 2: right now, let's lean in. And I am not a
- 12:29Speaker 2: graphic designer, Like, if you go back and look at.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Those graphics, they are horrible. They're so horrible, you know,
- 12:39Speaker 1: Sarah a little digression. When I was going through some
- 12:42Speaker 1: of my old anchor videos, I was telling my former
- 12:46Speaker 1: co host about them, and I'm like, dude, how did
- 12:50Speaker 1: I end up on some of these videos with acne
- 12:54Speaker 1: out of the wazoo? I mean literally the kind that
- 12:57Speaker 1: you watching those gross pimple popping videos. I'm like, they
- 13:01Speaker 1: should have had the little cane to just pull me off,
- 13:05Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is despicable, but I can laugh
- 13:08Speaker 1: about it now.
- 13:10Speaker 2: But also, like some of my worst audio episodes are
- 13:15Speaker 2: some of my most listened to and that's something that
- 13:17Speaker 2: I talk about in the book is that it's progress
- 13:20Speaker 2: over perfection.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 13:22Speaker 2: My first episode, so the podcast originally was called two
- 13:26Speaker 2: Babes Talk Supply Chain, and I had a male co host,
- 13:29Speaker 2: and so I had called it two Babes Talk Supply
- 13:31Speaker 2: Chain because Tongue in Cheek were trying to push the industry.
- 13:35Speaker 2: And some of those episodes, like we recorded them on Skype,
- 13:39Speaker 2: they are awful, like absolutely awful. But this is what
- 13:44Speaker 2: people don't realize is they see overnight successes.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but those.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Have taken you know, five, eight, ten, maybe fifteen years
- 13:53Speaker 2: to get to where they are. And we all expect
- 13:56Speaker 2: it to be easy, right, we can jump into it.
- 13:59Speaker 2: It's all gonna cut, it's all going to be easy,
- 14:01Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But it takes work and it
- 14:04Speaker 2: takes some humbling moments where you're gonna put stuff out
- 14:07Speaker 2: there that is not one hundred percent and if you don't,
- 14:12Speaker 2: it means you're striving for perspection and you're kind of
- 14:14Speaker 2: holding yourself back.
- 14:15Speaker 1: So oh yeah, you're nelling yourself to your own grave
- 14:19Speaker 1: and coffin, because you know, perfection essentially is the keeper
- 14:25Speaker 1: and robber of so many dreams. Right, I think I
- 14:28Speaker 1: wonder who makes the most money, Sarah, perfection or the graveyard.
- 14:31Speaker 1: I wonder which.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Well you can also throw comparison in there too, right, Yeah, Yeah,
- 14:38Speaker 2: comparison drags you down just as much.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I'm curious. I'm glad you brought
- 14:44Speaker 1: that up, because, let's be realistic, we all struggle with
- 14:49Speaker 1: perfection comparison starting over, especially women, and you're in a
- 14:55Speaker 1: male dominated industry, And I'm curious, Sarah, how can other
- 15:01Speaker 1: see comparison and perfection from a standpoint of this is
- 15:07Speaker 1: a stepping stone and not the full destination of where
- 15:11Speaker 1: I'm looking to go. Yeah.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest things really is around awareness,
- 15:18Speaker 2: like just really understanding yourself. There's pressure from so many
- 15:22Speaker 2: different places, and if we gave in to all of
- 15:24Speaker 2: those pressures, we wouldn't necessarily be us.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:27Speaker 2: I loved what you said at the beginning of the
- 15:29Speaker 2: episode is the fact that this medium told you to
- 15:32Speaker 2: be Portia right, to do it the way that you
- 15:35Speaker 2: want to do it, tell the stories the way that
- 15:37Speaker 2: you want to do it. And I've kind of embraced
- 15:39Speaker 2: that as well, in the fact that it is too
- 15:42Speaker 2: hard to be somebody that you're not.
- 15:45Speaker 1: So you say that again, Do you literally want me
- 15:49Speaker 1: to say it again? Say that again? For the people
- 15:51Speaker 1: in the back, it is.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Too hard to be somebody that you are not because
- 15:58Speaker 2: it just takes too much time, energy, money, and effort.
- 16:00Speaker 2: And then what are you left with. You're left with
- 16:02Speaker 2: a shell because you're not entirely sure who you are
- 16:04Speaker 2: in that moment anymore, because you've been really not lying,
- 16:09Speaker 2: but like you know, you haven't been your true authentic self.
- 16:12Speaker 2: And I think that it really just starts with awareness.
- 16:14Speaker 2: And you talked about something else earlier around labels and
- 16:17Speaker 2: identity and tying ourselves to work and what that means
- 16:22Speaker 2: to us, and I talk about this in the book
- 16:24Speaker 2: as well, is that we give our power away too
- 16:26Speaker 2: many times. We aware of ourselves and our power and
- 16:32Speaker 2: what that looks like for us, and how we're speaking
- 16:35Speaker 2: things into existence power away all the time, and we
- 16:39Speaker 2: give our power away to either the pressures of society,
- 16:42Speaker 2: or we give our power away to those labels, or
- 16:45Speaker 2: we give our power away to our job. Because we
- 16:47Speaker 2: lean in way too far, we kind of lose ourselves.
- 16:51Speaker 2: We can do that in relationships. We can do that
- 16:53Speaker 2: with kids, and so I think awareness really is the
- 16:57Speaker 2: foundational key to figuring out everything else.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Oh, because I think that was my dilemma was I
- 17:07Speaker 1: was so married Sarah to that title that once it
- 17:11Speaker 1: was stripped away from me, I'm like, who am I? Now?
- 17:14Speaker 1: What do I do? And even to this day, I'm
- 17:17Speaker 1: still disconnected from everybody who I worked with when I
- 17:22Speaker 1: worked in television, still to this day. So talk about
- 17:26Speaker 1: again that loss of community, right, And I think that
- 17:30Speaker 1: tends to happen once you become if you want to
- 17:33Speaker 1: call it an ex corporate convict, if you want to
- 17:36Speaker 1: call it that. I've noticed that once you leave certain circles,
- 17:43Speaker 1: you're no longer you know, integrated or even considered it
- 17:48Speaker 1: anymore when there was a rapport back then. Now you
- 17:51Speaker 1: are kind of, you know, part of the ex con
- 17:55Speaker 1: crewe It's so true. Yeah, And you know, Sarah, one
- 18:01Speaker 1: of the things that I love to about you is
- 18:04Speaker 1: you create spaces too for women to have difficult conversations
- 18:09Speaker 1: because a lot of us, let's be realistic, we say
- 18:13Speaker 1: that we want real. But you know where I'm going
- 18:17Speaker 1: with this, but real tends to only be approved when
- 18:24Speaker 1: it's in certain circles or certain conversations that others want
- 18:28Speaker 1: to talk about and not what's really the elephant in
- 18:31Speaker 1: the room. Right, So I'm curious.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Example from Blended, I'm sorry, you just brought something up
- 18:38Speaker 2: for me. So the Blended podcast I bring five different
- 18:41Speaker 2: people from different walks of life to talk about inclusion
- 18:44Speaker 2: in the workplace. The first ever episode I did, I
- 18:46Speaker 2: had this gentleman from the lgtbqya plus community and we
- 18:50Speaker 2: were talking about identity and we were talking about when
- 18:53Speaker 2: it's appropriate to ask somebody m and he was like,
- 18:59Speaker 2: you know, I really want everybody to understand who I
- 19:01Speaker 2: am as a person and how I identify. And I said, okay,
- 19:04Speaker 2: So if I come up to you and I ask you,
- 19:06Speaker 2: is that okay? And he's like, well, it depends who's
- 19:09Speaker 2: around me. It depends what room we're in, it depends,
- 19:12Speaker 2: it depends, it depends, it depends. And I was like,
- 19:15Speaker 2: And we talked about it as a group, and in
- 19:18Speaker 2: the end he turned to everybody and he said, you
- 19:20Speaker 2: know what, I just want people to know who I
- 19:24Speaker 2: am and understand how I identify. No matter what I'm
- 19:29Speaker 2: going to share with you, I want to be able
- 19:31Speaker 2: to share that with you. So I'm going to throw
- 19:33Speaker 2: all of that out the window, and I want you.
- 19:35Speaker 1: To come ask me and see how simple. Right. It's
- 19:40Speaker 1: as though it's become a crime, Sarah, to ask a question. Right,
- 19:44Speaker 1: Our people are so intimidated to ask because of assumptions,
- 19:50Speaker 1: all of the programming that we have about certain cultures,
- 19:54Speaker 1: how we grew up. You know, I little lesson that
- 19:58Speaker 1: I learned. Over the summer, I went on a long
- 20:00Speaker 1: road trip with my boyfriend, first time I've ever done that,
- 20:04Speaker 1: and there was we're still together. We are still together.
- 20:07Speaker 1: We went camping, like real camping, as intent in the
- 20:11Speaker 1: woods type of thing, right. I know some people get
- 20:15Speaker 1: divorced over that stuff, but hey, we didn't get you know,
- 20:18Speaker 1: torn up by bears or anything like that. We didn't
- 20:20Speaker 1: have the squirrel clan carrying us down the hill at
- 20:24Speaker 1: some point. So there was a part in the trip where,
- 20:29Speaker 1: you know, my guy said something, well, no, it was
- 20:32Speaker 1: his silence. His silence offended me. And I'm used to,
- 20:37Speaker 1: you know, messaging my friends like hey, what the heck
- 20:40Speaker 1: what do I do? But I had to be the
- 20:42Speaker 1: bigger person and ask him. And you know, Sarah, I'm
- 20:46Speaker 1: glad that I did, because that was pushing me out
- 20:51Speaker 1: of my comfort zone of what I'm used to doing.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And it also helped me to appreciate the assertive that
- 21:00Speaker 1: I've developed over the last couple of years, where I
- 21:04Speaker 1: know that, you know, a lot of us were bullied
- 21:07Speaker 1: in school, so sometimes you try to, you know, still
- 21:10Speaker 1: hide and mask yourself. But it seems as though I've
- 21:13Speaker 1: met a lot of people who have experienced loss and
- 21:14Speaker 1: grief they've become some very assertive warriors in the last
- 21:18Speaker 1: couple of years, and I feel like I've become the
- 21:21Speaker 1: same boat. So to that point, like just being comfortable
- 21:26Speaker 1: with asking a question.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah, comfortable asking the question, but also being comfortable with
- 21:32Speaker 2: the answer.
- 21:34Speaker 1: That part two. That that part two, I think a
- 21:36Speaker 1: lot of times we want a certain answer from people,
- 21:41Speaker 1: but we have to learn to accept that everybody is
- 21:44Speaker 1: going to respond in their own unique way. Yeah, right,
- 21:48Speaker 1: and not to judge them for how they respond, but
- 21:51Speaker 1: accept them and understand you just respond accordingly. Yeah.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Well, and the soreness. Yeah, so awareness just came into
- 21:58Speaker 2: that example that you talked about. So we talked earlier
- 22:00Speaker 2: about awareness being about who we are as people and
- 22:03Speaker 2: how we move around in the world and the impact
- 22:05Speaker 2: that we want to make sure, but also the awareness
- 22:08Speaker 2: in how far you've come. So you talked about in
- 22:11Speaker 2: that example about you know, recognizing in yourself that the
- 22:15Speaker 2: old you would have done this and the new you
- 22:17Speaker 2: actually you know, went out of your comfort zone and
- 22:20Speaker 2: asked a question mm hm, and so stopping for that
- 22:23Speaker 2: moment and being like, wait a second, the work that
- 22:26Speaker 2: I have been doing, yeah, right, like this is what
- 22:29Speaker 2: I've been working towards and actually acknowledging it and celebrating
- 22:33Speaker 2: it as a win. So no matter how that conversation went,
- 22:36Speaker 2: you knew, at least for yourself that you had come
- 22:40Speaker 2: far enough to be able to do that in that moment.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and you know talk about celebrating milestones. That
- 22:48Speaker 1: was a big one for me when I recognize like, oh,
- 22:52Speaker 1: this is something I've struggled with for a long time, right,
- 22:55Speaker 1: and now I can check this off like wow, you did,
- 23:00Speaker 1: And we just never know when it's going to come,
- 23:02Speaker 1: but be present in the moment when it does, you know.
- 23:06Speaker 2: But also recognize that it could happen again.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:11Speaker 2: So a lot of people think like this journey of
- 23:13Speaker 2: self awareness and self you know, reflection or even the
- 23:18Speaker 2: work that we do is that we do it one
- 23:20Speaker 2: time and it's just going to automatically happen every single time. No,
- 23:24Speaker 2: next time, you might not want to ask the question,
- 23:27Speaker 2: you might not feel like asking the question, and you
- 23:29Speaker 2: might go back to asking your girlfriends mm hmm. It's
- 23:33Speaker 2: not a failure, it's not a loss. It doesn't mean
- 23:36Speaker 2: that you're taking a step back, but the awareness and
- 23:39Speaker 2: the fact that you've done this the one time and
- 23:41Speaker 2: then having grace for yourself and saying it's not resonating
- 23:44Speaker 2: with me this time, I'll try it again next time, right,
- 23:47Speaker 2: Because it's not about blame mm hmm. It's not about
- 23:52Speaker 2: us taking a step backwards or anything like that. It's
- 23:54Speaker 2: really just being aware of who we are in that
- 23:58Speaker 2: moment and how we want to through that moment. It
- 24:02Speaker 2: doesn't look the same every time, and it doesn't have.
- 24:04Speaker 1: To that part and being open with the progress. Right.
- 24:08Speaker 1: I think you said it beautifully. It's progress, not perfection, right.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I think you know we try to. I use the
- 24:16Speaker 1: example of you know how you go to different arcades
- 24:19Speaker 1: and they have the little dark game and everybody wants
- 24:22Speaker 1: to hit the bulls eye. You're not gonna hit the
- 24:24Speaker 1: bulls every time. Right, sometimes it's gonna you know, it
- 24:28Speaker 1: might go on somebody's drink. Hopefully they don't drink it,
- 24:30Speaker 1: but you know, you never know where it's gonna fly, right,
- 24:35Speaker 1: but you you're aware of it. You know, you don't
- 24:39Speaker 1: put yourself in a prison of blame because it didn't.
- 24:43Speaker 1: You're not repeating the same bullseye tactic every time.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. And think about like some of the
- 24:49Speaker 2: major athletes, right, they went, like the basketball players, they
- 24:53Speaker 2: go and shoot hoops for hours. Who are we to
- 24:57Speaker 2: think that we're gonna get something right every single time?
- 25:02Speaker 1: And we haven't put the work in that part? That part?
- 25:05Speaker 2: Yeah, lot, anyways, I think we just I feel like
- 25:08Speaker 2: a lot of people think that it's just gonna come.
- 25:11Speaker 2: It's like working out.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, you're not gonna lose the Thanksgiving gun.
- 25:16Speaker 1: If you're still sitting on the couch watching Stranger Things
- 25:19Speaker 1: every day. I mean it's fun, but I mean, or
- 25:24Speaker 1: if you want to get some movement in, put Stranger
- 25:27Speaker 1: Things on your phone and or you know, this is
- 25:30Speaker 1: where Sarah, we need to have. You know how the
- 25:31Speaker 1: little kids in the cartoons they put the little hot
- 25:35Speaker 1: dog in front of them on the fishing pole and
- 25:38Speaker 1: then they have them chase it. It's almost like we
- 25:39Speaker 1: have to do the same thing as adults to get
- 25:43Speaker 1: us to move, like ribe ourselves to move. But obviously
- 25:46Speaker 1: for me it be cheesecake, not hot dogs. I love cheesecake. Story. Sarah,
- 25:53Speaker 1: We're gonna be wrapping up here soon, my friend. First
- 25:56Speaker 1: of all, I want to say thank you again for
- 25:59Speaker 1: coming on it, sharing with us your story and how
- 26:03Speaker 1: people can learn to reinvent themselves at any stage right,
- 26:07Speaker 1: even in the same industry that they essentially got exited
- 26:11Speaker 1: stage left to right, Sarah, for our audience or we conclude,
- 26:16Speaker 1: I want to give you time to talk about your
- 26:18Speaker 1: book for a minute. Your book, I buried her in
- 26:21Speaker 1: a French press. They show it to us. I'm curious, Sarah,
- 26:24Speaker 1: what is the symbolism behind the French press title? Because
- 26:29Speaker 1: I know we talked about coffee in the beginning, but
- 26:32Speaker 1: are you are you the coffee grounds being pressed down?
- 26:36Speaker 1: What's the symbolism? And how can people get a copy
- 26:39Speaker 1: of your book? I buried her in the French press,
- 26:42Speaker 1: so and.
- 26:42Speaker 2: I appreciate you for asking, and I loved being on
- 26:45Speaker 2: the show.
- 26:45Speaker 1: This is awesome.
- 26:47Speaker 2: So the title of the book is an Ode to
- 26:48Speaker 2: my grandmother, And there is a chapter dedicated to her
- 26:53Speaker 2: in this book because she passed away during the pandemic
- 26:56Speaker 2: and I had to arrange the burial from Canada. She
- 27:01Speaker 2: was in the UK, and I the story. I guess
- 27:05Speaker 2: I can tell you a little bit about the story. Anyways,
- 27:08Speaker 2: the day of the burial, we showed up and her
- 27:10Speaker 2: ashes were in a plastic bag in a white paper box,
- 27:13Speaker 2: and I was like, what am I going to do?
- 27:17Speaker 2: What am I going to do? Because the executor had
- 27:20Speaker 2: torn the house down to the studs before I got there,
- 27:24Speaker 2: so like all of my personal belongings gone, any of
- 27:27Speaker 2: the momentos gone. And I walk into the house and like,
- 27:32Speaker 2: my grandfather's aren't is there? And then her ashes are
- 27:35Speaker 2: in this thing and I just went with my gut.
- 27:38Speaker 2: It's really a story about resilience and trusting your gut,
- 27:42Speaker 2: like in the moment when there's so much emotions going
- 27:45Speaker 2: on around you. And I started opening up cupboards and
- 27:49Speaker 2: there was a French press in a box, never been touched,
- 27:53Speaker 2: with a receipt from nineteen ninety.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Two, Wow, a year after I was born.
- 27:57Speaker 2: We're not going to go there, And so Anyways, the
- 28:02Speaker 2: story goes into the details, but the title is known
- 28:06Speaker 2: to her because she was like my best friend. And
- 28:08Speaker 2: the rest of the title is it's a memoir about
- 28:11Speaker 2: finding my voice and the power of being heard. And
- 28:13Speaker 2: so the stories in here are really about my relationship
- 28:16Speaker 2: with self worth based on my life experiences and how
- 28:20Speaker 2: that really helps me in finding my superpower.
- 28:23Speaker 1: And Sarah, how can our audience get a copy of
- 28:26Speaker 1: I Buried Her in a French press?
- 28:28Speaker 2: So go get it on Amazon, Amazon dot com, dot CA,
- 28:32Speaker 2: dot UK, wherever you live. It's on Amazon. It's kindle paperback, hardcover,
- 28:37Speaker 2: and the audiobook version I just finished recording and that
- 28:41Speaker 2: should be out in February or Mark Excellent.
- 28:43Speaker 1: So those of you you can google the title if
- 28:45Speaker 1: you want to. You know, Google is your friend. I
- 28:47Speaker 1: Buried Her on a French press. You can also probably
- 28:50Speaker 1: just google Sarah Sarah Barnes Humphrey on Google, find her
- 28:54Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, all social media platforms. Yes, on Instagram, Yes,
- 29:00Speaker 1: I g wherever you are on social media. I'm sure
- 29:04Speaker 1: sure you can find Sarah wherever. Well, everybody that was
- 29:09Speaker 1: miss Sarah Barnes Humphrey that you heard from on this
- 29:13Speaker 1: episode of grew with Portia and that concludes our conversation
- 29:16Speaker 1: for today and until next time. Everybody, peace and hair
- 29:19Speaker 1: grease everyone, Thank you so much.