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Crew-10 Delayed as Crew-9 Waits to Return Home · Made of Stars

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Speaker 4: When we are made of stars. I'm West Carol, joined
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Speaker 4: Universities Coca Cola Space Science Center.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Sean Less, I'm so glad to be here with
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Speaker 5: you today and speak with a friendly voice about space.
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Speaker 4: It's just great, don't I don't know what voices you
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Speaker 4: might have spoken with that were less than friendly, but
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Speaker 1: I wish that we.
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Speaker 4: Had some some good news about the SpaceX Crew ten launch,
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Speaker 4: because we're going to start there a delay in launching
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Speaker 4: Crew ten to the International Space Station. I do have
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Speaker 4: a question about this, and I mean this. This is
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Speaker 4: where we've talked a lot about semantics and you know,
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Speaker 4: the two astronauts that have an extended stay eight days
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Speaker 4: to nine months or whatever on the International Space Station.
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Speaker 1: Uh, we we have.
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Speaker 4: I've been guilty here of speculating, you know, the mindset
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Speaker 4: of these these two astronauts as they've said, you know,
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Speaker 4: we're we're here. We in most of the time asked,
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Speaker 4: not really excited about extended stays they go. I'm sure
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Speaker 4: it wasn't convenient for them to be there over the holidays,
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Speaker 4: away from their families and all those sorts of things.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure there were family events that they had to
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Speaker 4: miss out on that they would have loved to have
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Speaker 4: been apart on maybe birthdays. And you know, you're there
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Speaker 4: for nine months. There's a lot that happens in a
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Speaker 4: nine month stretch. And there's been this discussion of you know,
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Speaker 4: a lot of the media has said that they're stuck,
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Speaker 4: and then you know, you and I have discussed why
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Speaker 4: if they have a ride home, they're not technically stuck.
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Speaker 4: Elon Musk has talked about the fact that he tried
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Speaker 4: to send something up to bring them home sooner and
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Speaker 4: was told for political reasons that wasn't going to happen
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Speaker 4: before the election, and that would be pushed until the
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Speaker 4: new year, so all of those things have been in play.
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Speaker 4: When it comes to all of this. The new verbiage
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Speaker 4: on this is that this craft ready to go up
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Speaker 4: that was not able to launch, and we'll talk about
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Speaker 4: one I didn't launch in a second, but that it's
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Speaker 4: the rescue ship that's going up to get them, when
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Speaker 4: in reality, their ride home has been docked with the
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Speaker 4: International Space Station for much longer than well, it's been
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Speaker 4: there basically almost as long as they've been quote unquote stranded.
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Speaker 4: So that Crew nine ship went up with two empty
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Speaker 4: seats to bring them home. So I guess if we
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Speaker 4: talk about what's happened and why they didn't launch last night,
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Speaker 4: that's the first thing. And then the second thing is
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Speaker 4: what is the significance and importance of Crew ten arriving
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Speaker 4: before they come back home? Because just because they weren't
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Speaker 4: able to take off last night with Crew ten, is
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Speaker 4: there a reason that they couldn't just well, the four
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Speaker 4: of us can get on the Crew nine craft and
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Speaker 4: come on back home.
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Speaker 5: So before I launched, there's so much there, wes especially
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Speaker 5: right now March of twenty twenty five, there's so much there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, let's.
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Speaker 4: Just say, let's say it loud and clear for our
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Speaker 4: international audience.
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Speaker 5: I would like to do that.
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Speaker 4: I would like to say, we appreciate you, thanks for
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Speaker 4: thanks for joining us on this adventure that is made
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Speaker 4: of stars.
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Speaker 1: We do appreciate it very much.
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Speaker 5: We love that you're listening. If you know American basketball,
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Speaker 5: there are these two really famous teams, ones called the
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Speaker 5: New York Knicks, uh huh, and the others called the
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Speaker 5: Los Angeles Lakers, and occasionally they play each other.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 5: These two major cities in America have these basketball teams
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Speaker 5: in the United States that represent them, and occasionally they
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Speaker 5: play each other. And I feel like my role in
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Speaker 5: this fictional basketball game is I'm the guy in the
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Speaker 5: stripe jersey. I'm the referee, right, or maybe I'm one
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Speaker 5: of the officials behind the score table. I'm neither a
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Speaker 5: Lakers fan, nor am I a Knicks fan. I am
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Speaker 5: an impartial observer that somehow tries to get the word
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Speaker 5: out about how the game's going so that we can
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Speaker 5: have a game. That's my role. So when I say
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Speaker 5: these words, I'm neither a Lakers fan, nor am I
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Speaker 5: a Knicks fan. I am part of the officiating crew.
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Speaker 5: Is hopefully the role I'm trying to play, all right,
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Speaker 5: So here we go. There is a Dragon capsule built
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Speaker 5: by the Space Exploration Corporation of America, which is abbreviated
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Speaker 5: as SpaceX. It's dock to the International Space Station right now.
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Speaker 5: It's been docked there since September, when the quote unquote
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Speaker 5: stranded and or abandoned unquote astronauts finally come home. They're
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Speaker 5: going to ride in the capsule that's been docked to
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Speaker 5: the International Space Station since September. They are not going
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Speaker 5: to ride home on any new rescue vehicle. They don't
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Speaker 5: need a launch to go up there and get them.
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Speaker 5: Their uber ride is already at the curb. I'm not
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Speaker 5: a Lakers fan. I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a
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Speaker 5: guy in a stripe jersey.
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Speaker 4: Let me just go on the record and say I
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Speaker 4: hate the Lakers. But that doesn't have really anything to
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Speaker 4: do with this story. The point is that the craft
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Speaker 4: that went up and the one that's about to go
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Speaker 4: up were missions that were already planned to take place.
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Speaker 1: They were nothing.
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Speaker 4: There's nothing different about that. The only thing in this
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Speaker 4: whole chain of events that is any different is that
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Speaker 4: two people went up on a Boeing on a Boeing
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Speaker 4: craft with the intentions of coming back home on that ship,
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Speaker 4: on the star Liner, and that wasn't able to happen.
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Speaker 4: It technically was able to happen, it wasn't able to
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Speaker 4: happen with the amount of confidence that they needed for
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Speaker 4: them to get home safely. So they sent it home
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Speaker 4: without them. That's the only thing that's different. Now, two
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Speaker 4: astronauts that were supposed to go up with Crew nine
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Speaker 4: didn't go up with Crew nine. Other than that, everything
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Speaker 4: else is exactly the way things were planned. There was
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Speaker 4: a there was a Crew nine mission plan, there's a
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Speaker 4: Crew ten mission plan, and all of those things are
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Speaker 4: going as they were intended, other than the fact that
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Speaker 4: Crew ten didn't launch last night.
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Speaker 5: Yes, that which you just said, so is the firm
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Speaker 5: rock upon which I stand in a sea of shifting
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Speaker 5: sand or a sea of shifting sands.
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Speaker 4: Careful because when you start, when you start, when you
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Speaker 4: start with all those s's, it starts to get dangerous
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Speaker 4: with some of those words.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so there might be a word that starts with
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Speaker 5: us that's appropriate, but I'm going to leave it out
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Speaker 5: at this point.
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Speaker 4: And as you very eloquently pointed, out with your your
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Speaker 4: basketball analogy. We do everything we can on this show
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Speaker 4: with as much journalistic integrity as we possibly can. We
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Speaker 4: We don't go digging through these stories solely so that
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Speaker 4: we can make a point or not make a point.
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Speaker 4: We're just here reporting what's going on, whether it is
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Speaker 4: in deep space or whether it is happening here on
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Speaker 4: Earth as it pertains to us studying deep space, that's
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Speaker 4: what we're here to do.
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Speaker 1: So we're trying to some point.
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Speaker 5: At some point, you've got to be able to look
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Speaker 5: to some source to find out what is like actually
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Speaker 5: happening so that you may make decisions and form opinions. Yes,
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Speaker 5: I like to hope. I don't consider myself a journalist
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Speaker 5: west so so you know that journalistic integrity thing. I
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Speaker 5: just hope to have integrity. Well there you go, period,
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Speaker 5: but as memories of maybe you could even label it
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Speaker 5: scientific integrity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well there Yeah, reality.
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Speaker 5: Of what's actually happening, that's what we're trying to disseminate.
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Speaker 4: And I do realize that right now throughout the world
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Speaker 4: there are definitely people who don't have a lot of
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Speaker 4: confidence in scientific integrity and journalistic integrity. And I get
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Speaker 4: that the polls, the stats show that this isn't me
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Speaker 4: offering commentary. This is just me pointing out the fact
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Speaker 4: there are people who don't have and as we do
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Speaker 4: this show. We've treated this show for years. Okay, we've
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Speaker 4: been doing this almost twenty years in some capacity, whether
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Speaker 4: it's radio or here on this podcast. So we try
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Speaker 4: to bring a journalistic integrity to it in the way
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Speaker 4: that we reported at the very least. So yes, we
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Speaker 4: have to be able to look ourselves in the mirror
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day and say, are we
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Speaker 4: just reporting the facts or are we trying to put
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Speaker 4: some kind of a slant on it? And I think
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Speaker 4: we've done a pretty good job of reporting the facts.
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Speaker 5: So let me just stick to the scoreboard and the
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Speaker 5: time left in the game. In my Nick's Laker's analogy,
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Speaker 5: which is simply this Crew nine, which has now assimilated
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Speaker 5: two astronauts that went up on a Boeing star Liner
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Speaker 5: but didn't come home on that mission, they're up there
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Speaker 5: joining Crew nine. Crew nine consists of Nick Haig and
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Speaker 5: Alexander Gorbanoff to original crew member two original members of
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Speaker 5: Crew nine. We also have Sunny Williams and Butch Wilmore
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Speaker 5: two integrated crew members for Crew nine who were once
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Speaker 5: Starliner crew members and are now Crew nine members. They're
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Speaker 5: waiting to come home. Wes asked a very important question, Well,
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Speaker 5: why are they waiting. Why are they waiting because their
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Speaker 5: mission doesn't end until crew ten arrives. You don't want
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Speaker 5: to leave. You don't want to leave the hotel with
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Speaker 5: no one running. It. Got to have somebody up there
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Speaker 5: running the hotel. So they're waiting until the next crew
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Speaker 5: comes up, and they're going to do a crew exchange
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Speaker 5: crew transfer, right, So so that's what's going to happen.
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Speaker 5: We're looking forward to that launch now. It was going
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Speaker 5: to be last night. It didn't happen. There was a
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Speaker 5: problem with the hydraulics on the gantry for the rocket.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't a problem with the rocket, it wasn't a
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Speaker 5: problem with the spacecraft. It's a problem with the actual
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Speaker 5: launch tower. The hydraulics were failing on one of the
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Speaker 5: support arms.
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Speaker 1: So they.
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Speaker 5: Wisely chose, hey, let's not do this, let's not rush it.
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Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of stories and politics out there,
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Speaker 5: but we're after cruse safety as our primary concern. Let's
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Speaker 5: not rush it. So they've now delayed the launch of
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Speaker 5: Crew ten, a Dragon vehicle built by SpaceX launching on
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Speaker 5: a SpaceX Faulcan nine rocket. They've delayed that launch to
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Speaker 5: seven three pm Eastern daylight time tomorrow as we're recording
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Speaker 5: the show. That's Friday, March fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Aboard
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Speaker 5: that vehicle. The Crew ten crew consists of two NASA astronauts,
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Speaker 5: Ann McLain and Nicole Ayres, a Russian cosmonaut from russ
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Speaker 5: Cosmos Kreel Peskov, and a Japanese astronaut from the Japanese
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Speaker 5: Space Agency that we know as Jackson. His name is
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Speaker 5: Takuya Onishi, now special Tactle point of contact with Crew ten.
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Speaker 5: Anne McLain is one of the astronauts that's come to
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Speaker 5: our facility and actually visited right here. We are huge
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Speaker 5: fans of Anne McLain because, quite personally, I will just
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Speaker 5: tell you Wes that she gave one of the best
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Speaker 5: talks of any astronaut who has ever visited the Space
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Speaker 5: Science Center, one of the most inspirational talks to my
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Speaker 5: students here, particularly my college students, although she spoke with
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Speaker 5: K through twelve students as well that day, but she
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Speaker 5: told our college students a very important lesson, which was,
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Speaker 5: do not self exclude. If you're going through a difficult
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Speaker 5: and competitive process, do not do things that will exclude yourself.
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Speaker 5: Make somebody from the organization tell you when you're no
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Speaker 5: longer allowed to ad ants in the competition. And she
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Speaker 5: did that in a far more eloquent way than what
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Speaker 5: I just expressed. But it was one of the greatest talks,
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Speaker 5: one of the most inspirational talks I've ever heard. And
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Speaker 5: so we became fans of Anne McLain and we wish
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Speaker 5: her the very best on her Crew ten launch tomorrow, Friday,
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Speaker 5: March fourteenth, seven or three pm Eastern daylight time.
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Speaker 4: Coming up after a quick break, turn around bright eyes.
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Speaker 4: We'll talk about tonight's eclipse right after this. All right, So,
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Speaker 4: as you said, we're recording this on Thursday the thirteenth,
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Speaker 4: and for folks listening on the thirteenth, heads up, we
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Speaker 4: got a lunar eclipse happening tonight.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this will be an event that will not be
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Speaker 5: rescheduled regardless of the weather.
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Speaker 4: And the weather may not be great for a lot
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Speaker 4: of the country, but you know, maybe our friends over
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Speaker 4: across the pond will get a good look at. I
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Speaker 4: don't know, maybe they'll get a better.
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Speaker 5: Look it's well, I don't think so, because it's going
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Speaker 5: to be centered on North and South America.
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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Then that's it.
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Speaker 5: Never mind then, so something unique that's happening in the
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Speaker 5: overnight hours tonight as we record the show, which West
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Speaker 5: said is March the thirteenth, but really in our time zone,
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Speaker 5: it's going to majority happen on March the fourteenth, in
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Speaker 5: the small hours on the clock. There's a lunar eclipse tonight.
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Speaker 5: It's a total lunar eclipse. Check out spaceweather dot com
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Speaker 5: a great website to check. They've got a story that
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Speaker 5: will show you the observing times and locations for your
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Speaker 5: time zone all across the United States. But I would
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Speaker 5: say that we here on the East Coast are going
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Speaker 5: to want to go out of three am. That's the
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Speaker 5: time of maximum eclipse. So if you're in a place
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Speaker 5: on the in the eastern time zone of the United
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Speaker 5: States eastern daylight time, go out around three am in
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Speaker 5: the morning, you'll be at central eclipse, a maximum eclipse
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Speaker 5: of the moon. Really anywhere from about you know, two
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Speaker 5: thirty to three thirty is a great time to go look. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: so the actual eclipse begins around midnight eastern daylight time,
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Speaker 5: but that's when it moves into what we call the
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Speaker 5: pen number, and that is the less dark portion of
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Speaker 5: the shadow. It's hard to even notice when that's happening.
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Speaker 5: So so that's going to be about midnight. The opposite
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Speaker 5: end of that is it'll conclude around five AM. You
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Speaker 5: won't see much between four and five am. You know,
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Speaker 5: the prime time for this eclipse is anywhere from about
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Speaker 5: one thirty am until about four AM. That's really when
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Speaker 5: you want to go out and look. Check it out then,
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Speaker 5: and if you want to just spend five minutes walking
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Speaker 5: outside and seeing it, set your alarm for three am
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Speaker 5: Eastern daylight time, March to fourteenth Friday here in the
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Speaker 5: Eastern time zone of the United States of America.
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Speaker 4: We couldn't get that moved a couple of hours the
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Speaker 4: direction or you know, they're just gonna it's a hard time.
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Speaker 5: I called NASA, but they didn't take my call.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about a Europa a different moon.
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Speaker 1: Is it alive? Let's dive into that.
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Speaker 5: Wouldn't it be cool if we had a moon that
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Speaker 5: was alive. That would be weird. Is it like talking
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Speaker 5: like a big sock puppet or something? What is it doing?
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Speaker 5: What do we mean?
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody? I'm Europa. Maybe something like that. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what it would sound like. We have to give
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Speaker 1: it a voice. I don't know if that's the one, but.
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Speaker 5: That might be the best Europa impression I have heard
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Speaker 5: all day. So, in fact, I'm gonna go ahead and
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Speaker 5: say it's number one all.
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Speaker 4: Night, nearly as good as my mother Ginger.
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Speaker 1: That one's much better.
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Speaker 5: But anyway, West Carol Star of Stage and Screen, there
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Speaker 5: you go check him out on IMDb.
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Speaker 1: Actually I am there, but I know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Go look it up. Anyway, So West imitating a possibly
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Speaker 5: live moon Europa. Well, this story is on Universe today
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Speaker 5: dot com. It's also in other places, but that's a
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Speaker 5: great place to check it out. Europa could potentially have
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Speaker 5: living biosignatures, or at least biosignatures the chemistry of life
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Speaker 5: on its surface, and a new study by Gideon Yoff
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Speaker 5: of Weismann Institute of Science has proposed that a certain
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Speaker 5: experiment could be done on places of the European surface
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Speaker 5: where brand new sea ice has been brought up from
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Speaker 5: down below that might carry the signatures of possible life
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Speaker 5: within the European oceans. All right, so how does this work? Okay,
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Speaker 5: So Europa is a moon around Jupiter. It is covered
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Speaker 5: with a very thick layer of water ice. We know
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Speaker 5: this from spectroscopy of satellites that have gone by or
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Speaker 5: probes that have gone by and taken data on that moon.
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Speaker 5: So that's not even in contention. Water ice a magic
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Speaker 5: substance out there, and further modeling has shown that all
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Speaker 5: the conditions should be right for there to be liquid
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Speaker 5: water beneath the icy cap. This is primarily due to
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Speaker 5: the tidal contractions and extensions of the planet of the
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Speaker 5: moon Europa due to the planet Jupiter and its immense
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Speaker 5: gravity stretching and squeezing this little moon, heating it up
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Speaker 5: on the inside. While so far, thermal measurements of the
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Speaker 5: surface and also just the geometry of the sea ice
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Speaker 5: visible in the European crust tell us that that's probably true.
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Speaker 5: So scientists have long believed that these liquid water oceans
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Speaker 5: are almost certainly there beneath the icy crust of Europa. Okay,
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Speaker 5: so that's the setup. Here comes the pitch. We also
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Speaker 5: know that Europa should be having hydrothermal vents, and those
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Speaker 5: hydrothermal vents in this liquid water ocean would be massive
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Speaker 5: sources of heat that could also create the right conditions
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Speaker 5: for chemistry to occur in those European oceans that could
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Speaker 5: be responsible for forming amino acids. Here we go, The
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Speaker 5: heat from these hydrothermal vents could drive chemistry that can
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Speaker 5: form complex carbon molecules all the way up to amino acids. However,
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Speaker 5: the presence of amino acids would have to mean that
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Speaker 5: there are certain organic processes involved. In other words, it's
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Speaker 5: even though the hydrothermal vents can supply the energy source,
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Speaker 5: it's hard to get the chemistry for amino acids going
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Speaker 5: through non organic processes. So friends, what if we could
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Speaker 5: find amino acids on the surface of Europa that have
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Speaker 5: been brought up due to some subterranean process on Europa.
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Speaker 5: In other words, some kind of upheaval of this water
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Speaker 5: bring up the ice that could contain amino acids from
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Speaker 5: further downwards warm well. This new study out of the
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Speaker 5: Weismann Institute has suggested that if these amino acids are
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Speaker 5: present in formations of brand new ice recently brought up
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Speaker 5: from the surface that they would number one rapidly break
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Speaker 5: down due to radiation bombardment of the surface of Europa.
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Speaker 5: That's a complicated process, but it has partly to do
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Speaker 5: with Jupiter having a very strong magnetic field. However, they
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Speaker 5: would exist for long enough that if we had a
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Speaker 5: satellite in orbit around Europa that it could use laser
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Speaker 5: emissions to cause these amino acids to fluoresce before they
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Speaker 5: broke down. In other words, we could deploy lasers to
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Speaker 5: have laser induced ultraviolet fluorescence and we could pick up
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Speaker 5: the near ultraviolet glow of amino acids from the surface.
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Speaker 5: And if they are there, they probably very likely form
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Speaker 5: through organic processes. And so if we saw these faint
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Speaker 5: emissions from amino acids in the sea ice of Europa,
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Speaker 5: it would almost certainly mean that there's some kind of
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Speaker 5: organic processes taking place in the europe and oceans, and
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Speaker 5: we could almost certainly verify the existence of life. How
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Speaker 5: about that for a five bank pool shot. That is
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Speaker 5: an incredible study. It's an incredible mission. I'd like to
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Speaker 5: thank the folks from the Weismann Institute for going through
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Speaker 5: this process of figuring it out. I'd like to encourage
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Speaker 5: NASA right now to put this program in place. Let's
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Speaker 5: get that ultraviolet laser fluorescence satellite into orbit around Europa
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Speaker 5: as soon as possible, because verifying life on another world
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Speaker 5: in our own solar system would just explode the probability
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Speaker 5: of life existing elsewhere in our universe.
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Speaker 4: Coming up after another quick break, Earth's old impact crater
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Speaker 4: discovered down Under. We'll get into that next. As a
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Speaker 4: space news journalist, I feel compelled to mention in case
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Speaker 4: the tax man's listening, I think I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 4: Australia and investigate this story a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we can do a show or two.
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Speaker 4: While I'm down there to cover this story, because this
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Speaker 4: is a big story. It's a big crater, I guess,
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Speaker 4: an old crater. But so let's talk about this discovery
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Speaker 4: Western Australia. That's where my wife is from. I don't
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Speaker 4: know if there's a connection to this crater and where
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Speaker 4: she was born or her home state in Australia, but
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Speaker 4: scientists have discovered this oldest impact crater ever and kind
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Speaker 4: of the way that did. Its pretty cool, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: Can I come along?
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Speaker 1: Please?
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Speaker 5: You go see the big crater in Australia I want to.
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Speaker 1: Go, Wes. Let's do it. Please take me, Let's do it.
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Speaker 4: You know what, as I think about this, and I
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Speaker 4: don't know the exact proximity, but this crater in Western
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Speaker 4: Australia and Western Australia is we have the next solar
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Speaker 4: eclipse of significance down the line is happening in Western Australia,
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Speaker 4: near Jill's old hometown. So I'm just offering all this up.
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Speaker 4: Maybe this needs to be the trip that we make happen.
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Speaker 5: So I think an idea has been born. We should
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Speaker 5: investigate this.
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Speaker 4: You go, and it's happening right here. Hey, tax Man,
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Speaker 4: just know that this is all in the works.
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Speaker 5: Native stars on the road to Australia like Taxman Rosby
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Speaker 5: and Bob Hope.
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Speaker 4: You know, Taxman for this April, you don't really have
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Speaker 4: to listen. Taxman next April needs to be paying attention
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Speaker 4: to this episode, That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: I mean, this could be a show preparatory research trip.
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Speaker 5: I don't know that's exactly what it is. That is
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Speaker 5: what it's become.
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Speaker 4: All right, So let's talk about this crater that we're
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Speaker 4: eventually going to go see for ourselves.
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Speaker 5: So in Scientific American. There's a story about geologists arguing,
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Speaker 5: which there's nothing surprising about that. Friends, geologists love to argue.
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Speaker 1: That's what they do.
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Speaker 4: I hear that when geologists argue, sometimes rocks are thrown.
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Speaker 5: I mean that that you know, better make sure they
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Speaker 5: don't have one of their rock hammers, Handy's say. And
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Speaker 5: it really depends on the number of beers that have
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Speaker 5: been served. Yea, it's not that astronomers don't argue, but
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Speaker 5: they argue in a somewhat more genteel way, I believe
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Speaker 5: than geologists. I've hung around them both.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, one of my very good friends is a
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Speaker 5: geologist I'm going to be sending him the story later
24:41
Speaker 5: today because this is just a fun story. Where it
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Speaker 5: Here's where it starts. Friends. Geologists are trying to investigate
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Speaker 5: how continents were first formed on the planet Earth and
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Speaker 5: what processes led to continents, and what has to happen
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Speaker 5: is there has to be some kind of massive heating
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Speaker 5: process in order to melt rocks down in a certain
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Speaker 5: way where there'll be a plume of volcanic rock, it
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Speaker 5: floats to the surface and then it forms a continent.
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Speaker 5: Geologists if you're listening. I don't want to argue. That's
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Speaker 5: just the best I can explain it. Okay, this is
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Speaker 5: not me trying to be a geologist, so just no,
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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to get our general audience something to grasp,
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Speaker 5: all right. Well, so there have been many mechanisms proposed
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Speaker 5: for these heating events causing some kind of plumes of
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Speaker 5: uprising material that form the continents in the early history
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Speaker 5: of Earth, and they all have some form or another
25:39
Speaker 5: of an issue, a problem. Ask a geologist, they'll tell
25:42
Speaker 5: you all about it, all right. So there's another group
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Speaker 5: of geologists from Curtin University in Australia, and they had already,
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Speaker 5: based on research with zircons, published a paper saying, hey, friends,
25:56
Speaker 5: we think that maybe the heating sources that form the
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Speaker 5: comets or form the continents were not from Earth. They
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Speaker 5: were extraterrestrial in nature. And I think I Frodian slipped
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Speaker 5: the word comet there a minute ago. But it's due
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Speaker 5: to some kind of collision with some sort of celestial object,
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Speaker 5: is what they are proposed. And again this is based
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Speaker 5: on research of zircons, which is a whole field in
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Speaker 5: itself which is very interesting. So they didn't get a
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Speaker 5: lot of traction. They were called names. And I think
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Speaker 5: that this is common in the geological community. I just
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Speaker 5: know this from my friends who are geologists. And so
26:33
Speaker 5: they said, well, we've got to find some more tactile
26:35
Speaker 5: evidence that maybe one of these things occurred. And so
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Speaker 5: they went and looked in the continent of Australia itself
26:42
Speaker 5: where they had speculated that some impact must have occurred
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Speaker 5: to form the continent of Australia and lo and behold,
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Speaker 5: in a region called Pilbara of Western Australia, they were
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Speaker 5: able to find evidence direct tact physical evidence of an impact,
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Speaker 5: a major impact that would have happened about three point
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Speaker 5: five billion years ago. Now, if this impact actually occurred,
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Speaker 5: this would make it the oldest impact ever observed on
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Speaker 5: planet Earth by more than a billion years old. So
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Speaker 5: that's not small potatoes. Friends. Well, let me tell you
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Speaker 5: the two main pieces of evidence that these geology, these
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Speaker 5: geologists have found the geological evidence for this impact site
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Speaker 5: are both spherals and shatter cones. So this is in
27:36
Speaker 5: addition to their zircon research, they have also found spherals.
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Speaker 5: What are spherals. Spherals are droplets of molten rock that
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Speaker 5: would have been ejected during the impact event and scattered
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Speaker 5: throughout that geological region. Check found them. What are shatter cones.
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Speaker 5: Shatter cones are delicate branching structures within the rock that
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Speaker 5: are actually visible to the naked eye. You can actually
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Speaker 5: see these with your eye. You don't need a microscope,
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Speaker 5: you can see them by eye. And in nature they
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Speaker 5: only form following some kind of impact from a celestial body.
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Speaker 5: So when you add spherals, shatter cones, and zircons, it
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Speaker 5: is very likely that an impact occurred at exactly the
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Speaker 5: right place and right time to support the theory from
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Speaker 5: the geologists from Curtent University in Australia that indeed the
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Speaker 5: continents gained their heating source for formation through celestial and
28:37
Speaker 5: not geological processes. Look out, now the geologists are going
28:42
Speaker 5: to fight with the astronomers. Here we go.
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Speaker 4: Coming July twenty twenty eight our trip there. I think
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Speaker 4: that's when we have to go for the eclipse slash.
28:52
Speaker 4: We'll check and see what the status is. Three years
28:55
Speaker 4: of studying this area, that's what we'll have to do.
28:58
Speaker 4: Let's talk about I know you guys, we had a
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Speaker 4: big day with a stem day at the Cocola Space
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Speaker 4: Science Center. I heard from several people who came to
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Speaker 4: that and had a great time, some of Jake's classmates.
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Speaker 1: I know. We're there.
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Speaker 4: And then we've got another Music under the Dome coming
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Speaker 4: up on April Fool's Day.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's going to be a fun one. So no,
29:18
Speaker 5: we're really having it. First of all, there's actually a
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Speaker 5: concert that day, so let's get that out anyway. So, yeah,
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Speaker 5: Music under the Dome is a great experience. Come in
29:25
Speaker 5: and hear the students and faculty from the schwob School
29:28
Speaker 5: of Music here at Clumbus State University performing live in
29:31
Speaker 5: our planetarium with choreographed graphics up on the dome. That's
29:35
Speaker 5: a fantastic experience. Also, yes, thank you to everybody who
29:39
Speaker 5: came out for STEM Day. We had approximately seven hundred
29:42
Speaker 5: and fifty people come down for a Career Exploration Day
29:45
Speaker 5: at the Space Science Center, meeting all kinds of faculty
29:48
Speaker 5: from CSU as well as representatives from area industries talking
29:52
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Speaker 4: I suppose the Carroll family forgiven for missing it because
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Speaker 4: we were actually at a math competition. So I mean,
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Speaker 4: I think that you know that weighs out a little
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Speaker 4: bit as far as that is one an acceptable excuse,
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Speaker 4: a justifiable reason to be elsewhere. Sean and I thank
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