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- 0:01Speaker 1: How did they get boat raced?
- 0:02Speaker 2: They got swept the whole weekend by a team that
- 0:04Speaker 2: was playing awful and then Angels were kind of doing
- 0:07Speaker 2: all right.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Monday episode of
- 0:16Speaker 3: Foul Territory. I'm Alana Rizzo, pinch hitting for Scott Braun.
- 0:19Speaker 3: He'll be back with you guys tomorrow. Of course we
- 0:21Speaker 3: have a J. Pierzinski and Eric Kratz, two of our regulars.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Great to be with you guys.
- 0:26Speaker 4: A g.
- 0:26Speaker 3: I know you did the game over the weekend. I
- 0:29Speaker 3: believe it was the Cubs and Giants.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 0:31Speaker 3: Howd it go for you?
- 0:33Speaker 1: Oh? It was Texas and the Giants.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Rangers and Giants and the walk off league home run
- 0:38Speaker 3: walk off yesterday?
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we had a walk off, but it was
- 0:42Speaker 2: a ball that barely got to the outfield. So they
- 0:44Speaker 2: basically got two infield walkoffs two days in a row.
- 0:47Speaker 2: And if you don't know much about the Giants, they
- 0:50Speaker 2: our second. I believe we looked it up in the
- 0:52Speaker 2: league in walk off since their park open in two thousand,
- 0:56Speaker 2: only Oakland Slash Sacramento has more, and of course they
- 0:58Speaker 2: got one yesterday also, so but our game was great.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I mean two pitchers that pitched Mainlee Molly and Geez
- 1:06Speaker 2: who pitched for the Robbie Ray both pitched great. They
- 1:09Speaker 2: won three to two. Was Brandon Crawford day. I got
- 1:11Speaker 2: to see him in his flowing locks. Got to see
- 1:13Speaker 2: Buster posey, Larry Bear, Murph if you played for the Giants.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Everyone knows who Murph is, and you know a lot
- 1:20Speaker 2: off the air you were talking about being a foodie.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I mean, I hit like seven of the best restaurants
- 1:24Speaker 2: in Sacramento for three days.
- 1:25Speaker 1: It was a pretty good weekend.
- 1:27Speaker 3: That's fantastic. And I see that Boach and Buster had
- 1:30Speaker 3: the reunion. Of course, the Rangers in town playing the Giants.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Giants had a good weekend against Texas. Kratz, how was
- 1:37Speaker 3: your weekend, my friend? I know you weren't covering a game,
- 1:40Speaker 3: but what'd you do?
- 1:42Speaker 5: I covered four games. My daughter went five for eight
- 1:45Speaker 5: in her four softball games, absolutely rock and ball, So
- 1:49Speaker 5: I get it. I'm not sideline reporter for the Dodgers
- 1:53Speaker 5: or main analyst for the for Fox, but hey, you
- 1:57Speaker 5: know what, the Harvey Ls Park, there was a lot
- 2:01Speaker 5: of softball games and I was front and center for
- 2:03Speaker 5: those Johns Hey, not for nothing.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I'm not the sideline reporter for the Dodgers anymore either.
- 2:07Speaker 3: You're just as important as the three of us. All right, guys,
- 2:09Speaker 3: going to be with you?
- 2:12Speaker 1: What hold on? I gotta throw this in there by
- 2:14Speaker 1: the way.
- 2:15Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have done this in
- 2:16Speaker 2: Arizona or I think they only have an Arizona and Sacramento.
- 2:20Speaker 1: I mean, it's sorry, San Francisco.
- 2:22Speaker 2: The driverless cars.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I refuse to do.
- 2:27Speaker 1: It, Oh my gosh.
- 2:29Speaker 2: The first time I got in coming home from dinner
- 2:31Speaker 2: on Friday night, I was, I'm gonna try it. Freak
- 2:34Speaker 2: me out a little bit. Then I kind of got
- 2:35Speaker 2: used to those dice. The guy there's nobody talking to.
- 2:38Speaker 2: You can do the music, you can do the climate control,
- 2:41Speaker 2: you could do.
- 2:42Speaker 1: You do it all right there on the little screen.
- 2:44Speaker 1: And glitch, I don't know.
- 2:47Speaker 2: You gotta buckle up. They make sure you're buckled up.
- 2:50Speaker 2: The only glitch I ran into was yesterday after dinner.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I was trying I had to get back to go
- 2:54Speaker 2: to the airport from my red Eye home to be on
- 2:56Speaker 2: the show today, and we were kind of in a
- 2:58Speaker 2: lane where there's people going I'm like this weymo is
- 3:01Speaker 2: never going to have the guts to pull out in
- 3:03Speaker 2: front of a car, and eventually it's just like like
- 3:06Speaker 2: spun the tires out and wear.
- 3:08Speaker 1: But it freaks you out a little bit. But there's
- 3:11Speaker 1: some good to it too.
- 3:12Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I have drivers and
- 3:15Speaker 2: non driver cars. But the fact that I and I
- 3:18Speaker 2: tweeted this over the weekend, the fact we can't review
- 3:20Speaker 2: whether Jung Hu Lee took a swing and fouled the
- 3:22Speaker 2: ball off, but I can take a taxi with no driver.
- 3:25Speaker 1: In it seems a little bit ridiculous. Major League Baseball.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that I would do that. I'm
- 3:30Speaker 3: afraid of a glitch. I don't know what's worse, not
- 3:32Speaker 3: being in control or having an uber driver that won't
- 3:37Speaker 3: shut up? Eric, Would you do it? Would you take
- 3:42Speaker 3: a waimo?
- 3:44Speaker 5: Oh for sure? Try anything twice and what if you
- 3:47Speaker 5: like it? What if you like it, then you're just
- 3:48Speaker 5: gonna have all the time and you'll never have are
- 3:52Speaker 5: they It's like half the price from the same spot
- 3:55Speaker 5: it was. I don't believe in uber black because I
- 3:58Speaker 5: only take black.
- 3:59Speaker 1: You guys know that. Okay, thank you?
- 4:01Speaker 2: There we go, and the way mo was half the price,
- 4:05Speaker 2: one was fifty. One was twenty five dollars to the
- 4:08Speaker 2: same spot, from the same spot, to back and forth
- 4:10Speaker 2: on the hotel.
- 4:12Speaker 5: You you never you ride in the most expensive car ever,
- 4:16Speaker 5: and you're going to take the cheapest car just because
- 4:19Speaker 5: it's a fun ride. That's not You didn't do it.
- 4:22Speaker 5: This is a fake story, fake news for everybody who's listening.
- 4:25Speaker 3: No, it's on his Instagram. I saw him in the WEIMO.
- 4:28Speaker 3: I'm glad that he lived to testify about the experience
- 4:32Speaker 3: it was there. If it's on the gram, you know
- 4:33Speaker 3: it is real. All right, let's get to charge the
- 4:35Speaker 3: mouth with socks and pitchin.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Charging about.
- 4:41Speaker 3: Not good guys. If you're Kevin Gosman a fifty three
- 4:44Speaker 3: pitch first inning, and Claudia, our producer asked both of
- 4:48Speaker 3: you in our pre pro meeting today if either of
- 4:51Speaker 3: you were ever behind the dish in which a pitcher
- 4:54Speaker 3: had thrown at least fifty pitches in the inning, AJ,
- 4:57Speaker 3: what say you?
- 4:59Speaker 1: No chance?
- 5:00Speaker 2: I mean maybe it happened, but I think we've always
- 5:03Speaker 2: said if you get to forty, that's that's like incredible amount.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Like when you get in the thirties, you got to
- 5:08Speaker 2: get somebody up if you're the manager, because a pitcher
- 5:10Speaker 2: going into the forties is usually when it gets in
- 5:13Speaker 2: the danger zone of hurting themselves. So fifty three pitches, wow,
- 5:17Speaker 2: and then the problem after you got the fifty third
- 5:19Speaker 2: pitch is even bigger. I hope he's okay and didn't
- 5:21Speaker 2: blow something out falling.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Down the steps. That's an insult to injury for sure.
- 5:27Speaker 1: But this needs to be heard.
- 5:29Speaker 5: This needs to be heard by all high school coaches
- 5:31Speaker 5: who are listening right now. You don't throw fifty three
- 5:35Speaker 5: pitches in any and you don't tell your kids, Hey,
- 5:37Speaker 5: you got a fifty pitch bullpen today and the kid
- 5:40Speaker 5: just throws fifty straight pitches. Get a clue. This doesn't
- 5:43Speaker 5: happen in the big leagues. For this to happen, I
- 5:45Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know how this happened. It was
- 5:49Speaker 5: like a little more, a little more. Don't do this
- 5:52Speaker 5: to kids. This is not like in the minor leagues.
- 5:56Speaker 5: Teams have rules. You get to twenty five pitches, you
- 6:00Speaker 5: you get somebody warming up, and then thirty pitches you're
- 6:04Speaker 5: not coming back out.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Thirty five you're in it. You're you're done, no matter
- 6:08Speaker 1: what's going on?
- 6:09Speaker 5: Like you can't ear errors, walks, whatever it is hits
- 6:12Speaker 5: you just you just don't continue because this is when
- 6:15Speaker 5: you can get hurt. I just couldn't believe Gosman stayed
- 6:17Speaker 5: out for fifty three Do you think.
- 6:20Speaker 3: It's because they needed him to wear it based on
- 6:23Speaker 3: bullpen usage from prior days or why is Schneider and
- 6:27Speaker 3: the team letting him wear this for fifty three pitches
- 6:30Speaker 3: in one inning and then he's yelling at the Empires obviously,
- 6:32Speaker 3: and then he falls down the stairs. I mean.
- 6:37Speaker 5: Double header. I mean they know they had to double dip.
- 6:41Speaker 5: I mean sometimes you just get caught up in the
- 6:44Speaker 5: moment too, in a sense. I'm pete Walker had come
- 6:46Speaker 5: out in that inning. You know your guy, you know
- 6:49Speaker 5: if it's hey, you know, you know I'm not.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Doing fine.
- 6:54Speaker 5: There he goes down the steps like that's just it's
- 6:57Speaker 5: not a great video of it when you when you
- 6:59Speaker 5: look at it, those are steps in Yankee Stadium too,
- 7:01Speaker 5: by the way, it's not they're not short like you're
- 7:04Speaker 5: going down down, But that's that's a grinder of a
- 7:08Speaker 5: day for him. I don't know how it even gets
- 7:10Speaker 5: past forty let alone thirteen more.
- 7:13Speaker 3: So apparently the reason he fell down the stairs is
- 7:15Speaker 3: because he was yelling at Umpire Chris Kahn were telling
- 7:18Speaker 3: him he was gonna go and watch his bad umpiring
- 7:21Speaker 3: and he didn't see the stairs. So maybe that's just
- 7:24Speaker 3: a sign that zip it.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 7:29Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't have been if you're gonna yell, at
- 7:31Speaker 2: least get your money's worth and yell like go on
- 7:33Speaker 2: the top step. You get ejected from the game. Grad
- 7:36Speaker 2: who cares you're already out of the game. Where they're
- 7:37Speaker 2: gonna throw you out of a game you're already out of.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
- 7:41Speaker 2: I mean, the doubleheaders is a likely excuse, but they
- 7:46Speaker 2: had to have a fresh bullpen because they had the
- 7:48Speaker 2: day before off for two days before off, so the
- 7:50Speaker 2: bullpen had to be somewhat fresh.
- 7:51Speaker 1: So I don't buy that. I don't know.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I think they just kind of lost count and they
- 7:55Speaker 2: got in the moment they were hoping he could get
- 7:56Speaker 2: out of it, and you just never got out of it.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you look up because you crads.
- 8:00Speaker 2: It gets going quick and you don't realize it.
- 8:02Speaker 1: You're like, oh my.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Gosh, he's thrown how many pitches and then by the
- 8:04Speaker 2: time he's already at thirty five, they got to try
- 8:06Speaker 2: to get somebody up, and then it just keeps going,
- 8:08Speaker 2: and then you're like fifty three, Like, oh, one more pitch,
- 8:10Speaker 2: you'll be out of it.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Oh one more pinon never does.
- 8:12Speaker 2: So Hopefully Gosman's okay, not only armwise from the fifty
- 8:15Speaker 2: three pitches, but also the rest of the body wise
- 8:17Speaker 2: from the crash he was in down the steps.
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- 9:22Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ego bruising as well, Kratz. The Toronto
- 9:25Speaker 3: Blue Jays and the New York Yankees are going in
- 9:28Speaker 3: two very opposite directions. Obviously, the Blue Jays have signed
- 9:32Speaker 3: Vladimir Gerr Junior to a very long term extension. We've
- 9:36Speaker 3: talked about it at nauseum that the window with Bashett
- 9:40Speaker 3: and Vlatie is closing. What are the Toronto Blue Jays
- 9:44Speaker 3: need to do right now? To write? The ship still
- 9:47Speaker 3: being early, but it's getting late early.
- 9:52Speaker 1: I gotta start hitting. They gotta start hitting.
- 9:55Speaker 5: You can't get you can't always get appol lot gems
- 10:00Speaker 5: out of your starting rotation, out of your bullpen. I
- 10:03Speaker 5: think their bullpen's a little thin too. But I mean,
- 10:05Speaker 5: if we're really talking about it, they have to start hitting.
- 10:09Speaker 5: They have to start hitting for some power. I think
- 10:11Speaker 5: they were twenty ninth in the league in home runs
- 10:14Speaker 5: if I'm not incorrect, and you I don't think they're
- 10:19Speaker 5: ever gonna lead the league or even.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Be top ten.
- 10:22Speaker 5: But you gotta be in the middle of the pack.
- 10:23Speaker 5: You gotta be in the middle of the pack of
- 10:25Speaker 5: driving the ball because they're gonna pick it, they're gonna
- 10:29Speaker 5: run bases, They're gonna get an upgrade when Dalton var
- 10:31Speaker 5: Show gets there. But you just you can't have like
- 10:36Speaker 5: I was. I was intrigued to see Andre Samenez, who
- 10:38Speaker 5: we love, batting clean up to start the season and
- 10:43Speaker 5: he hit like three or four homers. I think he
- 10:46Speaker 5: still leads the league, and he hasn't hit a homer
- 10:48Speaker 5: in the last or maybe one homer in the last
- 10:50Speaker 5: three or four weeks. Like it's it's he leads a team,
- 10:54Speaker 5: not the league. But like they're just not driving the ball.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Laddie hit his second homer over the weekend. They have
- 11:00Speaker 5: to start hitting homers. And I'm not saying home run
- 11:02Speaker 5: or bust, but you can't just slap the ball around
- 11:05Speaker 5: the ballpark in the big leagues and expect to win
- 11:08Speaker 5: games consistently.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Jimenez was on a tear certainly earlier this season. Gohead,
- 11:12Speaker 3: go ahead.
- 11:13Speaker 2: They've scored the fourth fourth least amount of runs in baseball. Okay,
- 11:18Speaker 2: so that's unacceptable for a team you think it hit.
- 11:20Speaker 2: I mean the Rangers have scored last, the Rockies, who
- 11:23Speaker 2: I mean, they're the worst at everything right now, and
- 11:27Speaker 2: the Royals, who are doing okay because they're pitching and
- 11:30Speaker 2: but they also don't give up a lot of runs
- 11:31Speaker 2: because the ballpark they're in. But I mean, the White
- 11:33Speaker 2: Sox have scored the same amount of runs as the
- 11:35Speaker 2: Blue Jays and they're seven and twenty one. So the
- 11:37Speaker 2: pitching has been good. The problem is, like Kret said,
- 11:39Speaker 2: they don't score. Why where's the where's the offense come from?
- 11:42Speaker 2: With Bashett and Springer and Kirk and Vlad And yes,
- 11:47Speaker 2: we'll throwing him in as but these guys are supposed
- 11:48Speaker 2: to be able to score runs. They haven't done this
- 11:50Speaker 2: for a couple of years now. Maybe we need to
- 11:52Speaker 2: start thinking these guys just aren't that good at offense.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Here's the proof to your point. You guys run scored
- 11:59Speaker 3: so far the season, the Yankees have one hundred and
- 12:01Speaker 3: fifty five runs scored. The Toronto Blue Jays have scored
- 12:04Speaker 3: ninety five, so a massive gap in terms of run
- 12:07Speaker 3: scored versus runs against Devin Williams. As far as the
- 12:10Speaker 3: Yankees are concerned, Guys, our next topic here on Charge
- 12:12Speaker 3: of the Mound has been relieved of his duties, at
- 12:15Speaker 3: least for right now. Kratz from the closer role SNYTV
- 12:20Speaker 3: with the tweet there on X you know again this
- 12:23Speaker 3: guy comes from Milwaukee. There was a big deal made
- 12:25Speaker 3: about that, that he was going to be a good
- 12:27Speaker 3: guy to have it in the back end of that bullpen.
- 12:29Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, you guys know better than I
- 12:32Speaker 3: being the positions that you're in, he's just not cutting
- 12:34Speaker 3: it in that role. Aj. Is it the bright lights,
- 12:36Speaker 3: the big city?
- 12:37Speaker 1: Is it?
- 12:38Speaker 3: You know, catching guys that he's not familiar to, or
- 12:41Speaker 3: excuse me, facing guys he's not familiar with in that division?
- 12:44Speaker 3: What is it?
- 12:46Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo broke him? I don't know. He forgot to
- 12:49Speaker 1: throw that one in Rolana. I don't know.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Maybe it's because he made the Yankees grown facial air.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Who knows his velocity's down a little bit. He's not
- 12:56Speaker 2: as sharp. He's always kind of been able to get
- 13:00Speaker 2: away with it because of his Airbender change up, but
- 13:03Speaker 2: guys have seen it now and they're not having bad swings.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't know, other than his velocities down,
- 13:10Speaker 2: I don't know. We can make jokes all we want
- 13:11Speaker 2: about why. I really don't know. It's just it just
- 13:14Speaker 2: hasn't worked out for him, And I don't know what
- 13:17Speaker 2: Yank's gonna do with him because they're in a race
- 13:19Speaker 2: and they're gonna need to find a soft landing spot.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Did Devin Williams pitching the sixth inning for you?
- 13:25Speaker 1: Maybe? Eric?
- 13:27Speaker 3: You know what it's like obviously going playing for a
- 13:30Speaker 3: lot of different teams. You know what it's like to
- 13:31Speaker 3: play in massive you know, teams with a lot of
- 13:34Speaker 3: pressure and teams not so much. He came from the
- 13:37Speaker 3: Milwaukee Brewers. Is there something to that or are we
- 13:39Speaker 3: reading too much into that?
- 13:41Speaker 5: I think that is one of the most overblown things
- 13:44Speaker 5: unless the player comes out. I know players have come
- 13:47Speaker 5: out and said, hey, you know what, that pressure really
- 13:49Speaker 5: did get to me. Unless the player comes out and
- 13:52Speaker 5: says it, I think that's one of the most overblown
- 13:54Speaker 5: narratives that people want to want to put on playing
- 13:59Speaker 5: for the Yankees. I didn't feel it, but I also
- 14:03Speaker 5: wasn't like I wasn't in I can't. I can't attest
- 14:05Speaker 5: to the fact that you're the closer, you're the starting catcher.
- 14:09Speaker 5: Like I played a I played a subsidiary role. I
- 14:14Speaker 5: played a backup role my whole career, any big, big
- 14:16Speaker 5: cities that I played in. But my biggest thing is
- 14:21Speaker 5: is his command issues related to any kind of injury type?
- 14:27Speaker 5: Is it anything that he's trying to fight through. You
- 14:29Speaker 5: have to remember, this is free agent year, so there's
- 14:32Speaker 5: pressure on that. Not pressure from the bright lights of
- 14:35Speaker 5: New York. There's pressure on a free agent year. Do
- 14:38Speaker 5: guys play through injuries that they may not play through
- 14:41Speaker 5: other years?
- 14:42Speaker 1: Yes? So is that causing his velocity dip? Maybe?
- 14:46Speaker 5: Is it more causing you know, his walks. I mean,
- 14:49Speaker 5: he's got seven walks and eight strikeouts, and this is
- 14:53Speaker 5: a guy who doesn't he's not perfect, but other years
- 14:56Speaker 5: he's twenty eight walks to eighty seven strikeouts, thirty to
- 15:00Speaker 5: ninety six strikeouts, Like it's right now, it's too many walks,
- 15:06Speaker 5: and it's just it's catching up to him because he's
- 15:08Speaker 5: not able to get that swing and miss airbender pitch
- 15:12Speaker 5: to me, it's not the beard, it's not Pete Alonzo,
- 15:16Speaker 5: it's not the bright lights in New York. He's going
- 15:19Speaker 5: through a funk right now. And they have another closer.
- 15:21Speaker 5: This is what good teams do. They have backups for
- 15:24Speaker 5: their backups that are elite. They have another closer. He'll
- 15:28Speaker 5: figure it out, and if he doesn't figure it out,
- 15:31Speaker 5: then they'll try a different way. Big leagues, you have
- 15:33Speaker 5: so much mechanical things that you can fix, pictures, video,
- 15:38Speaker 5: It'll be faster turnaround than people think.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Here's my thing. I listen, I played, and I get
- 15:45Speaker 2: how this works. And people say, you know, oh, it's
- 15:48Speaker 2: not the pressure.
- 15:48Speaker 1: It's not this.
- 15:49Speaker 2: It's not the pressure, and you don't think that. But
- 15:51Speaker 2: here's what happens. He gets off to a rough start, okay,
- 15:54Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Then the media starts. If you would
- 15:59Speaker 2: have got off to a great star, everyone be like, oh,
- 16:00Speaker 2: this guy's unbelievable. Gets off to a rough start, The
- 16:04Speaker 2: media starts, the fans read the media, The fans react,
- 16:07Speaker 2: and then they start booing and saying things that they
- 16:09Speaker 2: sh probably shouldn't be saying, and then in your mind,
- 16:12Speaker 2: no matter how hard you try to remove it, it's there. Man,
- 16:15Speaker 2: I'm gonna show these guys. And then you try a
- 16:16Speaker 2: little bit harder. Now does that make your velocity go
- 16:19Speaker 2: down and your your location get off a little bit?
- 16:22Speaker 1: I don't know, but it can.
- 16:23Speaker 2: So the problem is is it's not that the actual
- 16:26Speaker 2: pressure gets to you from the city. It's that, Okay,
- 16:29Speaker 2: I'm off to a bad start. Well, I want to
- 16:31Speaker 2: prove it, and I want to get ten saves in
- 16:32Speaker 2: my next save, right, and then you miss, you make
- 16:34Speaker 2: a mistake, the Blue Jays beat you on a ball,
- 16:37Speaker 2: you know, the right center, and then all of a
- 16:38Speaker 2: sudden and then everyone's.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Like, we want Weaver. They're chanting, we want Weaver, they're
- 16:42Speaker 1: booing them right.
- 16:43Speaker 2: It's just it all starts adding up, and as a player,
- 16:46Speaker 2: it's hard to stop that and get back to the beginning.
- 16:50Speaker 1: And that's kind of what Aaron Bone is saying.
- 16:52Speaker 2: We need to get him in a situation where he
- 16:54Speaker 2: can take a breather and get back and get some
- 16:56Speaker 2: scoreless inning and get his confidence back. It's not the
- 16:58Speaker 2: actual pressure, it's the fact that you want to do
- 17:00Speaker 2: so well and un plus, it's this free agent. You're
- 17:03Speaker 2: throwing that. It just starts compounding compounding. It's like an
- 17:06Speaker 2: avalanche and it's really hard to stop it.
- 17:09Speaker 3: This whole segment is for Aj Pierzinski. Roki Sasaki told
- 17:12Speaker 3: the Dodgers that if they installed the day equipped Japanese
- 17:15Speaker 3: style toilets in the clubhouse, it would influence his decision
- 17:19Speaker 3: to sign with them this past offseason.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Aj concurs, do I are you kidding me, Alana. We
- 17:27Speaker 1: talked about this in Arizona. You've never had one. Here's mine.
- 17:30Speaker 1: The thing opens up for you and look at a
- 17:33Speaker 1: light show at night. It's the best.
- 17:35Speaker 2: And when you wake up in the middle of the
- 17:36Speaker 2: night and you have to use the restroom, the toilet opens.
- 17:39Speaker 2: It's heated seat for everyone that lives in cold weather.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I mean, it does things that we can't talk about
- 17:46Speaker 2: on television to you, So listen. If you don't have one,
- 17:50Speaker 2: get one. They're all expensive, but they are well worth it.
- 17:53Speaker 2: And my wife and I we have different toilets, so
- 17:56Speaker 2: it's even better because she's not allowed to touch mine.
- 17:58Speaker 2: She's not allowed touch the remote, she's not allowed to
- 18:00Speaker 2: touch a seat, nothing.
- 18:01Speaker 1: It's all mine.
- 18:02Speaker 3: I'm sure your wife doesn't care that she's not allowed
- 18:05Speaker 3: to touch your toilet number one.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Number two. He cares.
- 18:08Speaker 3: He cared for you that you have two toilets in
- 18:11Speaker 3: your bathroom. Mister, I'm playing in the big leagues for
- 18:13Speaker 3: a very long time. Eric, do you care about the
- 18:17Speaker 3: bidet equipped Japanese style toilet and how much of a
- 18:20Speaker 3: factor do you think that was to get Sisaki to la?
- 18:25Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 18:26Speaker 5: I'm not like aj I let people touch my drum set. Okay,
- 18:29Speaker 5: so I tell you Lisa did not touch his drum set.
- 18:33Speaker 5: I mean a little factor. Yes, I think this is
- 18:37Speaker 5: this is the media running with something that a little funny.
- 18:41Speaker 5: But you know what, this is a difference between the
- 18:43Speaker 5: Dodgers and other orgs. If this is going to get
- 18:45Speaker 5: you the guy, just do it.
- 18:47Speaker 1: What did it cost him? Fifty thousand dollars for how
- 18:50Speaker 1: many how many they put in? Five eight nine? Something
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- 20:02Speaker 3: All right, guys, this is a serious topic. Honestly, we'd
- 20:05Speaker 3: like to have fun on the show, but this is
- 20:07Speaker 3: important to talk about too. Jared Duran got into it
- 20:10Speaker 3: with the fan during this Yesterday afternoon's game in Cleveland
- 20:13Speaker 3: after the fan told him he should have killed himself
- 20:16Speaker 3: when he had the chance. Per Will Middlebrooks, who was
- 20:19Speaker 3: covering the game with Dave Obrian and Jami Webster on
- 20:22Speaker 3: nesson Yesterday The reason, for a variety of reasons that
- 20:26Speaker 3: this is problematic is that Jared Duran recently, on the
- 20:29Speaker 3: documentary that came out about the Red Sox last season,
- 20:33Speaker 3: discussed his mental health and how he almost attempted to
- 20:37Speaker 3: commit suicide and thankfully for us, the attempt did not work.
- 20:42Speaker 3: And so for the fan in Cleveland to say this
- 20:45Speaker 3: to Jared Duran is a level of low that I
- 20:48Speaker 3: don't even know. I don't even know if I have
- 20:50Speaker 3: the words for you. Guys have been very prone to
- 20:54Speaker 3: heckling and fans saying certain things to you in the stands.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Some fan bases are worse than others, but this is
- 21:01Speaker 3: aj below the belt.
- 21:04Speaker 2: First of all, we were just talking about toilets in
- 21:06Speaker 2: the break. This is the stuff that goes into toilet
- 21:09Speaker 2: so we don't talk about Because for you to say
- 21:11Speaker 2: this to somebody is just the worst thing. You can
- 21:15Speaker 2: say this, and this guy opened up about something that
- 21:17Speaker 2: he's probably never told the world before, and then for
- 21:20Speaker 2: a fan to say that to him, You're just not
- 21:22Speaker 2: a good person.
- 21:22Speaker 1: That's it. You're just not a nice person.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And I know fan say, oh, we have the right,
- 21:27Speaker 2: we pay tickets, but think about if I always say,
- 21:29Speaker 2: think about if this was your kid and you had
- 21:32Speaker 2: a son and you were yelling this at your son,
- 21:34Speaker 2: would you do it?
- 21:35Speaker 1: Probably not?
- 21:35Speaker 2: Or if this was your son that got yelled at,
- 21:38Speaker 2: how would you feel for them? And I guarantee you
- 21:40Speaker 2: this guy wouldn't think it was a great idea. So
- 21:43Speaker 2: I think this is horrible. I'm proud of Jaron Durant
- 21:46Speaker 2: for coming out and standing up and saying what he said.
- 21:49Speaker 2: This needs to be more of a spotlight. It's a
- 21:51Speaker 2: big deal because everyone thinks, oh, playing in the major
- 21:53Speaker 2: leagues and doing this and that is great. There are
- 21:56Speaker 2: a lot of people that struggle with a lot of
- 21:57Speaker 2: things that happened during this. So this was just awful
- 22:00Speaker 2: and I hope this guy gets a long long band
- 22:02Speaker 2: for saying what he said. And also kudos are the
- 22:04Speaker 2: guardians fans that were like it was this guy and
- 22:06Speaker 2: everyone pointing out that was good for them.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:10Speaker 5: I thought a lot of people stepped up and did
- 22:12Speaker 5: the right thing. The thing that people need to understand
- 22:15Speaker 5: and what even this guy who said this needs to
- 22:18Speaker 5: understand the reason Jaron duran said this that he went
- 22:23Speaker 5: down this spiral he had mental illness, but part of
- 22:26Speaker 5: it was because of the things he was reading that
- 22:29Speaker 5: people were saying about him.
- 22:30Speaker 1: He was struggling.
- 22:31Speaker 5: In the big least, that's already enough, you're struggling, you
- 22:34Speaker 5: have just negative thoughts about yourself. Then you add in
- 22:38Speaker 5: mental illness. Then you add in you're reading about what
- 22:40Speaker 5: people are saying. People can be vicious and if that
- 22:44Speaker 5: is like, that affects you. And then for this guy
- 22:47Speaker 5: to he came out and said this, He came out
- 22:50Speaker 5: and said publicly that that was happening. And then to
- 22:56Speaker 5: go to that, to go to that point, it's just
- 22:59Speaker 5: it's it's sophomoric, it's whatever name you want to say.
- 23:05Speaker 5: It's terrible. And I don't even want to bring the
- 23:08Speaker 5: guy's face up. And I hate that we even have
- 23:09Speaker 5: to talk about it. But kudos for Jared Duran for
- 23:13Speaker 5: stepping up. This is a mental illness, is a disease
- 23:16Speaker 5: that he has to fight and talk about with other people.
- 23:19Speaker 5: And I'm sure he's helped people so far and just
- 23:22Speaker 5: his short journey through this.
- 23:24Speaker 3: And Jared Duran did come out and say, guys that
- 23:26Speaker 3: he was so thankful about the way that the security
- 23:29Speaker 3: guard handled the situation. To AJ's point, the other guardian
- 23:33Speaker 3: fans that we're saying this is a jerk, This is
- 23:35Speaker 3: not emblematic and symbolic of the fan base that we are.
- 23:38Speaker 3: But I think in you two, of course, being male,
- 23:40Speaker 3: would know more than I. It is very difficult as
- 23:43Speaker 3: a man to come out and admit that you have
- 23:46Speaker 3: mental health issues or that you're struggling with things, because
- 23:49Speaker 3: men are supposed to be so strong, right, the superior species,
- 23:53Speaker 3: and nothing is supposed to bother you, and don't cry
- 23:55Speaker 3: and don't show weakness in those types of things. So
- 23:58Speaker 3: for Jared Duran to be able to publicly come out
- 24:01Speaker 3: and say, you know what, I was struggling, and I
- 24:03Speaker 3: was struggling so much that I thought the only solution
- 24:06Speaker 3: to beat this thing was to not be here anymore.
- 24:08Speaker 3: And again, I'll say it again, thank God that the
- 24:10Speaker 3: suicide attempt did not work. But that's why men oftentimes
- 24:14Speaker 3: and women for that matter, don't say things about what's
- 24:17Speaker 3: bothering them mentally. That's why people in the public eye
- 24:21Speaker 3: don't want to say that they're struggling, because people see
- 24:24Speaker 3: it as a weakness. And furthermore, I think it's the
- 24:26Speaker 3: exact opposite. I'd like to know your take on that.
- 24:29Speaker 3: Aj we'll start with you and then we'll go to Ukratz.
- 24:32Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a sign of strength when
- 24:34Speaker 3: you can admit, you know what, I need some help.
- 24:36Speaker 3: I can't do this by myself.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Listen, a couple things in the in the sorry, in
- 24:41Speaker 2: the major in Major League Baseball, it is a macho,
- 24:45Speaker 2: macho job. And it's also a very masculine area that
- 24:51Speaker 2: you are in in that locker room. And I know
- 24:53Speaker 2: they brought in women and there's women reporters and people,
- 24:56Speaker 2: women that work for the team and they do a
- 24:58Speaker 2: great job everything, but it is still a hyper masculine environment.
- 25:02Speaker 2: And so for somebody to admit this, the first thing
- 25:05Speaker 2: that would pop to your head is if I say
- 25:07Speaker 2: this is, Oh, how are my teammates gonna take this?
- 25:09Speaker 1: And how is the public gonna take this?
- 25:11Speaker 2: Oh, you're supposed to be Jon Doran, this super tough guy,
- 25:13Speaker 2: but you have these problems. Like Klana said, it would
- 25:16Speaker 2: had to be really hard for him to say this,
- 25:18Speaker 2: And again I applaud him for this, and I also
- 25:20Speaker 2: applaud him for not going up in the stands and
- 25:22Speaker 2: trying to beat this guy's career in because it had
- 25:25Speaker 2: to be hard.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Listen, I've had.
- 25:26Speaker 2: There's been many times in my career where people say
- 25:29Speaker 2: things and it takes everything in your power. Did I
- 25:32Speaker 2: say some stuff back that I shouldn't have, of course,
- 25:35Speaker 2: But you know what, I many times there were times
- 25:37Speaker 2: in your head where you were literally thinking I could
- 25:40Speaker 2: go I could literally this is a guy. I could
- 25:43Speaker 2: go up a person. Not sometimes it wasn't always gentlemen,
- 25:47Speaker 2: but I could go up in the stands and I
- 25:48Speaker 2: want to fight this person because of things they said,
- 25:51Speaker 2: and they get personal and they take these attacks because
- 25:54Speaker 2: they think they can.
- 25:54Speaker 1: So awesome.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Kudos to Jared Duran for just saying, hey, pointing it
- 25:58Speaker 2: out and saying, hey, this guy say this. And yes
- 26:01Speaker 2: he was mad, he was angry, but he handled it
- 26:03Speaker 2: as good as he as well as he could have.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Just this is just a bad situation.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Like Kret says, I'm kind of bad we have to
- 26:09Speaker 2: even talk about it because there shouldn't be some we're
- 26:11Speaker 2: talking about.
- 26:13Speaker 5: I hope we can get to the point where people
- 26:14Speaker 5: can see, you know, if they want to use the
- 26:17Speaker 5: term real man or a tough guy. I hope it should.
- 26:21Speaker 5: I hope we can get to the point where it's
- 26:23Speaker 5: okay a real man can cry. A real man can
- 26:27Speaker 5: share his feelings because you're useless to everybody around you
- 26:32Speaker 5: if you're going through something, because you're also going to
- 26:36Speaker 5: be able to help the person next to you who's
- 26:38Speaker 5: probably gone through the exact same thing. It's more common
- 26:43Speaker 5: than you think. And in baseball, this is tough. I mean,
- 26:47Speaker 5: this is a tough sport that is going to chew
- 26:50Speaker 5: you up and spit you out. And you're He's an
- 26:52Speaker 5: All Star last year, MVP of the All Star Game.
- 26:55Speaker 5: People are like, well, he's invincible. He's got huge muscles,
- 26:58Speaker 5: he's got tattoos, all stuff that on the outside looks
- 27:02Speaker 5: like strength. But the real strength is the fact that
- 27:05Speaker 5: he was able to come out and say the things
- 27:09Speaker 5: that are bothering him because it was deep, and it
- 27:12Speaker 5: was it was it really got to the point of danger.
- 27:16Speaker 5: And so kudos to him and anybody that's willing to
- 27:20Speaker 5: step up and express their feelings.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Jared Duran, we are proud of you, and more importantly,
- 27:25Speaker 3: we are proud that you were here and thank you
- 27:27Speaker 3: for your strength in what you said. We appreciate it
- 27:30Speaker 3: very much. Y'all. The Palehos has some competition. Bob Nightingale
- 27:36Speaker 3: on x said, the Colorado Rockies get swept by the
- 27:39Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds and are now four and twenty three, that
- 27:41Speaker 3: is four wins twenty three losses. They have lost fourteen
- 27:45Speaker 3: of their last fifteen. They are now ahead of AJ's
- 27:48Speaker 3: Chicago White Sox's record pace, who said an MLB record
- 27:52Speaker 3: last season with one hundred and twenty one losses. The
- 27:56Speaker 3: White Socks were five and twenty two after twenty seven
- 27:59Speaker 3: games season A. J. Pierzinski is Chicago only going to
- 28:03Speaker 3: hold the record for one season?
- 28:06Speaker 2: Can't the Rockies let us have anything? Can't they let
- 28:08Speaker 2: us the White have any good history? Come on, Alana,
- 28:12Speaker 2: you're next Rocky.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Great, you don't want this, you don't want this record.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Ran Here's my thing.
- 28:17Speaker 2: If I'm the White Sox and this is a joke,
- 28:20Speaker 2: but when they play the Rockies, the White Sox might
- 28:22Speaker 2: have to throw a couple of games so they can
- 28:24Speaker 2: hold onto history. Okay, I'm just joking, but this is
- 28:27Speaker 2: crazy and the problem is the difference for me is
- 28:30Speaker 2: the Rockies are in the NL West. The White Sox
- 28:33Speaker 2: are in the AL Central. Last year and they were
- 28:35Speaker 2: awful the Rockies. They got the Dodgers still coming, the
- 28:38Speaker 2: Padres the Diamondbacks, the Giants.
- 28:41Speaker 1: It ain't getting any easier.
- 28:43Speaker 2: So whoo, we might have history two years in a row,
- 28:45Speaker 2: but come on, let the White Sox fans have something
- 28:47Speaker 2: to celebrate at least for a couple of years.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Eric, they might win twenty games.
- 28:53Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the over on that one, Alana, I'm
- 28:55Speaker 5: gonna take the over. I'm gonna say it's gonna come
- 28:57Speaker 5: down to the wires thast. They're gonna be a lot
- 28:59Speaker 5: more fun to watch in the White Sox were last year.
- 29:01Speaker 5: The Rockies have some young talent. I like watching. I
- 29:04Speaker 5: just turned it off after the sixth inning when the
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- 30:11Speaker 3: Guys, I had a moment of panic yesterday when Tyler
- 30:15Speaker 3: Glassnow left the game after one inning and he left
- 30:19Speaker 3: the game with what was called right shoulder discomfort. This
- 30:23Speaker 3: bothers me. Foby and Ardaia, who does a great job
- 30:25Speaker 3: with the Athletics, said that Dave Roberts said that Tyler
- 30:28Speaker 3: Glasnow landing on the L is certainly a possibility. If
- 30:32Speaker 3: the Dodgers say somebody is certainly a possibility. You're going
- 30:35Speaker 3: to the IL.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Yeah, they use the IL better than any other team.
- 30:40Speaker 1: That's one thing.
- 30:41Speaker 2: That Dodgers do, and they have the depth to do it.
- 30:43Speaker 1: But sucks.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Listen, no, listen, it just sucks for glass Now. And
- 30:49Speaker 2: this is the thing with him. He's got so he's
- 30:51Speaker 2: so talented, he's such a great interview and he's such
- 30:53Speaker 2: a great guy that it just it just sucks that
- 30:56Speaker 2: he just keeps having it. It was cramps, remember the
- 30:58Speaker 2: auting before he had some cramp. Now he's got a
- 31:01Speaker 2: shoulder thing. And they already have Snell down, they have
- 31:03Speaker 2: Kershaw down, Gonsolin's down, I mean, Tringing's down.
- 31:08Speaker 1: It's like jeez.
- 31:09Speaker 2: But then they just find someone else that comes up
- 31:10Speaker 2: and does a good enough job to keep them winning.
- 31:12Speaker 2: So feel bad for Tyler, But the Dodgers will figure
- 31:15Speaker 2: it out, because yeah, but how.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Do they how do they figure this out? Eric, Because
- 31:19Speaker 3: you look at the fact that the Dodgers were only
- 31:22Speaker 3: supposed to be without Blake Snell for two starts. He
- 31:24Speaker 3: hasn't even thrown off a mound yet, so we don't
- 31:26Speaker 3: know when Blake Smell Snell's coming back. You have Glasnow
- 31:30Speaker 3: who is probably going on the il. You have Yamamoto
- 31:33Speaker 3: and Sasaki who only pitch once a week. Kershak is
- 31:37Speaker 3: not available to come off the sixty day until May eighteenth.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Gonsolin is on his way back. So what do you
- 31:44Speaker 3: have right now? Dustin May and a bunch of Triple
- 31:49Speaker 3: A guys.
- 31:51Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't put the other guys as play guys,
- 31:53Speaker 5: and you kind of glossed over the fact that there's
- 31:55Speaker 5: other guys.
- 31:55Speaker 1: They're not gonna make their starts. They're gonna have to
- 31:58Speaker 1: piece meal together.
- 31:59Speaker 5: People are gonna say, oh, you know, six man rotation
- 32:01Speaker 5: because they have Yamamoto and Sasaki in there.
- 32:04Speaker 1: It's gonna ultimately be.
- 32:05Speaker 5: A seven to eight man rotation, not consistently, but knowing
- 32:10Speaker 5: you're gonna get twenty five starts at max out of
- 32:15Speaker 5: your two healthiest pitchers. Right now, Dustin May didn't throw
- 32:21Speaker 5: last year, so his innings, his innings are way down.
- 32:26Speaker 5: It's cap I mean, I don't even know how many
- 32:28Speaker 5: through the year before that, dealing with the esophagus and
- 32:31Speaker 5: Tommy John. But this is about injury suck, and anytime
- 32:36Speaker 5: a player gets hurt, it sucks. The biggest loss in
- 32:40Speaker 5: all of baseball and probably all of professional sports is
- 32:43Speaker 5: time on the injured list. Whatever every league calls it,
- 32:46Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. Time on the injured list. If there
- 32:49Speaker 5: is a team we talk about all the time, if
- 32:51Speaker 5: you would give one pitcher, you know, the ball for
- 32:54Speaker 5: Game seven the World Series, one batter for the ninth
- 32:57Speaker 5: inning of a tie ball game in the World Series
- 33:00Speaker 5: of one organization, the golden ticket to say, you know what,
- 33:04Speaker 5: who's gonna figure out how to curtail these injuries?
- 33:09Speaker 1: Dodgers?
- 33:09Speaker 5: Are it Dodger because they're going to exhaust this.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is they've had more than anybody.
- 33:17Speaker 2: They've had more than anybody. They've figured it out. They've
- 33:22Speaker 2: actually gotten worse, I think. And by the way, this
- 33:25Speaker 2: is the time a lot of your Dodger we all
- 33:26Speaker 2: know Dodgers territory, Dodgers love you, bleed blue, all that stuff.
- 33:30Speaker 1: This is the time for a guy named Bobby Miller
- 33:32Speaker 1: to step up.
- 33:34Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. But that's what that's what I'm
- 33:36Speaker 3: saying with the thing that that Eric was saying is
- 33:38Speaker 3: that I said they're triple A guys. They are triple
- 33:40Speaker 3: A guys because when you have Bobby Miller come up,
- 33:43Speaker 3: who can't get out of in between his ears for
- 33:45Speaker 3: whatever reason you I think Bobby Miller would be great
- 33:47Speaker 3: in the bullpen. Justin Robleski hasn't really panned out as
- 33:51Speaker 3: far as when he's been given the opportunities. Land and
- 33:53Speaker 3: Nak hasn't panned out when he's been given the opportunities.
- 33:55Speaker 3: And if you have your main starters, the guys that
- 33:58Speaker 3: the big guns that you signed this previous off seasons
- 34:01Speaker 3: to give them them massive contracts, when those guys go
- 34:04Speaker 3: on the il, you need these other guys when given
- 34:07Speaker 3: the opportunity to shove, and they haven't shoved. I guess
- 34:10Speaker 3: that's what I mean by triple A guys. You're gonna
- 34:12Speaker 3: have a lot of starts having to be filled by
- 34:14Speaker 3: guys that may not necessarily have the stuff on a
- 34:18Speaker 3: consistent basis to be at the big league level.
- 34:22Speaker 1: I would agree with that's time, I agree.
- 34:24Speaker 2: But it's time. It's time for Bobby Miller. How long
- 34:26Speaker 2: have you heard about Bobby Miller. Bobby Miller, he's the
- 34:29Speaker 2: next grade. He's the next grade. In the last couple
- 34:32Speaker 2: of years, he hasn't been able to now whatever. It
- 34:35Speaker 2: is like, it's time for them to figure this out
- 34:38Speaker 2: because that you know, we keep saying the Dodgers have
- 34:40Speaker 2: the depth, but the Dodgers also have more injuries than anybody,
- 34:43Speaker 2: especially pitching wise, and they have big injuries. It's not
- 34:46Speaker 2: like they have two weak things. I mean, they have
- 34:49Speaker 2: guys with shoulders, they have guys with elbows. It's it's
- 34:52Speaker 2: an epidemic. And I think we saw early in the
- 34:54Speaker 2: year Dave Roberts and Mark Pryor said we need to
- 34:55Speaker 2: start figuring this out because I don't care how much
- 34:57Speaker 2: you dip you have year after year after year, is.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Eventually is gonna catch up.
- 35:01Speaker 2: You know, they won the World Series with none of
- 35:03Speaker 2: their big guns, basically healthy and where they wanted them
- 35:06Speaker 2: to be.
- 35:07Speaker 1: They still figured it out and won the World Series.
- 35:11Speaker 5: That's how good. Yeah, that's how good they are. And
- 35:13Speaker 5: to me, you know when you say these guys got
- 35:17Speaker 5: to step up, what we're talking about. The narrative with
- 35:20Speaker 5: the Dodgers was they have a eight, nine, possibly ten
- 35:24Speaker 5: man rotation. This is why when people ask, oh, if
- 35:29Speaker 5: you took the Dodgers or the field, you take the field.
- 35:33Speaker 5: I'm not counting the Dodgers out by saying that, I'm
- 35:36Speaker 5: saying the game is tough. Staying healthy. The way that
- 35:40Speaker 5: guys pitch on the mound right now is really tough.
- 35:44Speaker 5: The way the guys throw the ball at one hundred percent,
- 35:47Speaker 5: and there's Twitter pages that everybody follows, and it's all
- 35:50Speaker 5: about v Low building v Lo throwing a heavy ball
- 35:54Speaker 5: and the next thing is coming how whatever that is.
- 35:57Speaker 5: Everybody throws hard. We're gonnas that play deep in October
- 36:02Speaker 5: and they do all that stuff. Guys breakdown. It's it's
- 36:07Speaker 5: just part of it. It's part of it. The Dodgers
- 36:09Speaker 5: play deep in October every year. Guys are going to
- 36:12Speaker 5: break down. Their death is going to be tested. I
- 36:15Speaker 5: just didn't think it was gonna be tested this early.
- 36:17Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be tested in a
- 36:19Speaker 5: Hey we'll give Yamamoto a blow. We'll bring Bobby Miller up. Hey,
- 36:22Speaker 5: we'll give Sasaki a blow. We're gonna bring Land and
- 36:25Speaker 5: knack in. Not crap, we need Land and knack in.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Blake Snell, who has been for the most part a
- 36:31Speaker 5: picture of health, is down. Like now we're losing Glass
- 36:35Speaker 5: now for his few starts. It's it's tough and this
- 36:40Speaker 5: is the game, this is baseball. It is tough to
- 36:42Speaker 5: stay healthy, especially the way that they play it.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Now.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Yeah, it's problematic, and I think the death we were
- 36:48Speaker 3: all talking about was really more for the second half
- 36:50Speaker 3: of the season when we assumed that Kershaw was going
- 36:52Speaker 3: to be a full go and we assumed Otani was
- 36:54Speaker 3: going to be back. So there's certainly some question marks
- 36:57Speaker 3: when it comes to the starting rotation. We'll see how
- 37:00Speaker 3: they manage it. Aj and Eric ken Rosenthal and I
- 37:03Speaker 3: talked about this the other day on Fair Territory and
- 37:06Speaker 3: the Angels were actually our dorks of the week, or
- 37:08Speaker 3: at least they were mine because of the planning. Aju
- 37:11Speaker 3: and I think talked about this too. The Angels, who
- 37:13Speaker 3: chose to play a night game at home on Thursday
- 37:15Speaker 3: in Anaheim instead of playing an afternoon get away game,
- 37:18Speaker 3: didn't get into Minneapolis until six am. They played twelve
- 37:23Speaker 3: hours later, and then they got shellacked by the Twins
- 37:25Speaker 3: eleven to four. I don't know if it would have
- 37:27Speaker 3: won had they not had this schedule, but the point
- 37:30Speaker 3: is they absolutely got boat raced. Again. What are the
- 37:34Speaker 3: Angels doing.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Now? Only do they get boat raced?
- 37:38Speaker 2: They got swept the whole weekend by a team that
- 37:40Speaker 2: was playing awful and the Angels were kind of doing
- 37:42Speaker 2: all right.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Listen, I said it when we talked about this, Slana.
- 37:46Speaker 2: This only hurts your team now you can say whatever
- 37:49Speaker 2: you want about the visiting team, and there's teams that
- 37:51Speaker 2: are more notorious. Anaheim's one of the teams that does
- 37:53Speaker 2: this a lot, sends you on night games before you
- 37:55Speaker 2: have to travel back East.
- 37:56Speaker 1: It sucks, But to do it. What did don't understand
- 37:59Speaker 1: is it hurts your team.
- 38:00Speaker 2: If the Angels were staying at home, you're like, okay,
- 38:03Speaker 2: it just sucks for the way team. But to do
- 38:05Speaker 2: this to your own team for what, to sell five
- 38:07Speaker 2: thousand more seats maybe and then go of them go
- 38:10Speaker 2: on the road and get swept. I'm glad Mike Trout
- 38:12Speaker 2: came out and said something because he's the only person
- 38:14Speaker 2: that seems like anybody out there listens to.
- 38:17Speaker 5: Before they change the schedule. In the minor leagues, this
- 38:20Speaker 5: is a very minor league thing to do. You'd play
- 38:22Speaker 5: a four game set. The third game would be the
- 38:25Speaker 5: SpongeBob square Pants day game where all the kids come
- 38:28Speaker 5: into town, and then get away day would be Friday,
- 38:31Speaker 5: because the series wrap on a weird schedule and you
- 38:34Speaker 5: never had off days. They're not having a day game
- 38:36Speaker 5: on a Friday in a minor league park because you
- 38:39Speaker 5: know what, the minor leagues isn't about winning. So that
- 38:42Speaker 5: is a brutal call by the Angels to have a
- 38:45Speaker 5: getaway day, I mean a getaway night game when you
- 38:48Speaker 5: don't even have an off day the next day. And
- 38:50Speaker 5: baseball players aren't soft for that. That's real, and the
- 38:53Speaker 5: ownership or whoever made this decision set their team up
- 38:57Speaker 5: for not having success this weekend.
- 39:00Speaker 2: How many times, yeah, go ahead, crowd, how many times
- 39:03Speaker 2: did you have like four am three am buses in
- 39:07Speaker 2: the minor leagues to fly? I mean, I remember when
- 39:10Speaker 2: the PCO we'd have like three thirty am buses after
- 39:13Speaker 2: a night game and then we'd fly to god knows wherever,
- 39:17Speaker 2: from Fresno to Memphis, across the country. Oh, by the way,
- 39:21Speaker 2: you're playing, there were times where our equipment didn't show up.
- 39:25Speaker 1: There were times where our stuff didn't share. Oh we
- 39:28Speaker 1: had to play with the we played a game. One
- 39:29Speaker 1: time we had to use the other team's equipment.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Guys are up and down on that big league Triple
- 39:35Speaker 3: A train. The Braves of option Jared Kelnick to the minors.
- 39:38Speaker 3: Eddie Rosario is replacing him on the roster. Now you
- 39:42Speaker 3: remember Eddie Rosario was a DFA by the Dodgers. When
- 39:46Speaker 3: shohe Otani came back from paternity leave, and it looks
- 39:50Speaker 3: like he has another opportunity with the Braves. They also
- 39:54Speaker 3: defade right hander Zach Thompson to open a roster spot. Also,
- 39:57Speaker 3: right handed pitcher Ian Anderson was added to the roster,
- 40:00Speaker 3: and right handed Davis Daniel was optioned to Triple A.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Your thoughts on Kilnick just not seemingly able to get
- 40:07Speaker 3: it going at the big league level AJA over a
- 40:09Speaker 3: consistent period of time.
- 40:11Speaker 1: That's it.
- 40:12Speaker 2: And this hasn't him being sent down is not him
- 40:16Speaker 2: because he didn't run the ball out, which we beat
- 40:18Speaker 2: to death last year.
- 40:19Speaker 1: It's just the fact he struggled.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Okay, and they also have Alex Rodugo who's come over
- 40:23Speaker 2: and it's been really good since he got there. So
- 40:26Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of places for him to play.
- 40:27Speaker 2: They can use Eddie Rosario. He's a guy they know
- 40:29Speaker 2: very well. He was a World Series for him here
- 40:32Speaker 2: him a few years ago. So this is people are
- 40:35Speaker 2: gonna say, oh it' because he didn't run the ball out.
- 40:36Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with that. They just need
- 40:38Speaker 2: him to go to Triple A, try to figure some
- 40:39Speaker 2: things out and possibly be back. I think The interesting
- 40:41Speaker 2: move is Ian Anderson coming back. Ian Anderson is on
- 40:44Speaker 2: the Jesse Chavez train. He goes to a different team,
- 40:46Speaker 2: he comes back, Jesse Chavez comes back. Like, man, there's
- 40:49Speaker 2: just I don't know. The Braves find people they like
- 40:51Speaker 2: that they've had before and they bring them back. Braves,
- 40:53Speaker 2: guess what, I've retired. I'll come back for the while.
- 40:58Speaker 5: Don't do it. I was looking it up. Don't don't
- 41:00Speaker 5: have aj back. He's done, He's done. It's okay, he's cooked,
- 41:04Speaker 5: He's cooked. I can't believe and Anderson. I can't believe
- 41:07Speaker 5: Jesse Shaves got dfed. Like these are all moves that
- 41:10Speaker 5: I'm like, Wow, Eddie Rizzaro coming back, Jesse Shave is
- 41:14Speaker 5: coming back. Like the Braves are moving and shaking some
- 41:19Speaker 5: things around, and just part of that is countic. I mean,
- 41:23Speaker 5: I think it's this is this is ultimately the big leagues.
- 41:28Speaker 5: If you don't produce in the big leagues, you will
- 41:30Speaker 5: get fired. You will get sent down to Triple A,
- 41:33Speaker 5: and they'll try somebody else. Some people's window is a
- 41:36Speaker 5: lot shorter than other people's window. And you're on a
- 41:39Speaker 5: team that has World Series aspirations, you got to produce.
- 41:42Speaker 5: And those guys haven't produced yet.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just the thing, right. Like I said the
- 41:46Speaker 3: other day, Clint Hurdle said, it's not the try hard league,
- 41:49Speaker 3: as Yoda says, there is no try the Nationals they
- 41:52Speaker 3: tried guys and they did a good job. They were
- 41:54Speaker 3: down six runs and they came back to beat the Metropolitans.
- 41:58Speaker 3: It was their fourth comeback win of the eon and
- 42:01Speaker 3: their second walkoff win over the Mets this series. So
- 42:04Speaker 3: that's twice that they bested the Mets in walk off fashion.
- 42:08Speaker 3: They have an MLB high tying seven games that they've
- 42:10Speaker 3: won by one run a j What does that tell
- 42:13Speaker 3: you about this club?
- 42:16Speaker 1: They're getting lucky in Layton games. I don't know.
- 42:18Speaker 2: I mean people are gonna say, oh, they never give up,
- 42:20Speaker 2: but no team ever gives up. I mean Pete should
- 42:23Speaker 2: have had that ball. He made a bad throw. I
- 42:25Speaker 2: mean that's how they won that game.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know it. I don't know what it says.
- 42:32Speaker 1: It says they've got lucky and they've won some games.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, the Mets are looking at themselves,
- 42:36Speaker 2: going we were winning seven to one in the seventh inning,
- 42:38Speaker 2: we got to close that game out, and I know
- 42:40Speaker 2: they didn't have das, but I don't know what it is.
- 42:42Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you this.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Don't give me this, don't give me this. A lot
- 42:45Speaker 1: of oh, they never give up, because no big.
- 42:48Speaker 2: League team ever really gives up the baths all counts.
- 42:51Speaker 2: You're still trying.
- 42:52Speaker 3: I wasn't going to say that. But what I was
- 42:54Speaker 3: going to say, what if that was the Phillies that
- 42:56Speaker 3: you're like, oh, well, we knew they had it in
- 42:58Speaker 3: and we know that they have the firepower. They're down
- 42:59Speaker 3: seven into one, blah blah blah.
- 43:01Speaker 1: And it's lucky. It's lucky.
- 43:03Speaker 2: When it's lucky, when you come back down seven to one,
- 43:06Speaker 2: crowds you tell them it doesn't happen that much.
- 43:08Speaker 1: It's lucky. It's lucky.
- 43:09Speaker 2: You got to get a break here and there. And
- 43:11Speaker 2: the Mets gave him a couple of breaks. There's a
- 43:12Speaker 2: couple of balls and got through holes. Wouldn't like to
- 43:15Speaker 2: hit seven home runs. I mean it was choppers that
- 43:18Speaker 2: went through holes. Alonso making the error. I mean it
- 43:20Speaker 2: was It's kind of like the way the Giants won yesterday.
- 43:23Speaker 2: I mean, Hili a Romo scored on a ball that
- 43:25Speaker 2: went thirty seven feet and he scored from home.
- 43:28Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's luck.
- 43:30Speaker 3: That's not that's not It's also super bad defense by
- 43:34Speaker 3: the Rangers. I mean, I don't know that that's luck.
- 43:36Speaker 3: It's just bad defensive baseball.
- 43:39Speaker 5: I mean it's it's luck for the team who wins,
- 43:42Speaker 5: it's bad baseball for the team who loses. They didn't
- 43:45Speaker 5: have Edwin Dz to come out to close the game,
- 43:47Speaker 5: so now your bullpen, everybody has to slot up.
- 43:51Speaker 1: You're winning by seven runs.
- 43:53Speaker 5: You need a guy to come out and give you
- 43:55Speaker 5: three innings so that you don't burn out the rest
- 43:57Speaker 5: of the bullpen. Like they're not just throwing Oh we're
- 44:00Speaker 5: winning seven to one. We're throwing our seventh inning guy,
- 44:04Speaker 5: our eighth inning guy. No, it's a cavalcade of oh,
- 44:08Speaker 5: we got some guys on all right, guys got to
- 44:10Speaker 5: get loose.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Where's Edwin? Oh?
- 44:11Speaker 5: Edwin's down today. There's different things that go into a
- 44:14Speaker 5: seven to one. I think your question was why are
- 44:17Speaker 5: the Nats winning close games like this? And to me,
- 44:21Speaker 5: I think teams that win close games giants for an
- 44:24Speaker 5: entire decade. They pitch, they play defense, and they don't
- 44:28Speaker 5: try to drive the ball out of the ballpark, because
- 44:30Speaker 5: if you're losing seven to one, if you're losing close games,
- 44:35Speaker 5: rarely are you coming back and going, augh, We'll just
- 44:38Speaker 5: hit the dinger and win the close games. The teams
- 44:40Speaker 5: that swing for the fences usually win by a lot
- 44:43Speaker 5: lose by a lot if they don't play defense. Guys
- 44:45Speaker 5: that play defense and pitch. So it shows the Nats
- 44:48Speaker 5: are right in that realm right there. But one run
- 44:52Speaker 5: games can be lucky again, unless you're the Giants. They
- 44:56Speaker 5: were just really really good at it, and you don't
- 44:58Speaker 5: luck into three World Series.
- 45:12Speaker 3: How about the job that Arizona Diamondbacks third basement Aheniosarez
- 45:17Speaker 3: had the other gay game? You guys, four home runs
- 45:20Speaker 3: in one game. It is only the nineteenth time in
- 45:23Speaker 3: Major League Baseball history that has occurred. Eric, It is
- 45:26Speaker 3: so rare, in fact, it is more rare than a
- 45:29Speaker 3: perfect game.
- 45:30Speaker 5: That is the stat that I just I am flabbergasted by.
- 45:35Speaker 5: And I couldn't even tell you who the last person was?
- 45:37Speaker 1: Was J D. Martinez? Who did it last?
- 45:41Speaker 3: It's yes, it was seventeen yeah.
- 45:44Speaker 5: And he did it in like this was the game
- 45:48Speaker 5: time home run and the team ended up losing like
- 45:52Speaker 5: that's tough. But like they say in the show, two
- 45:56Speaker 5: for four, what's the score? So he had a good way,
- 45:59Speaker 5: he was happy.
- 46:03Speaker 3: It stinks that it comes in a lost thinks.
- 46:05Speaker 1: That he lost.
- 46:06Speaker 2: It stinks that he lost because you can't be that
- 46:08Speaker 2: happy because you can't really celebrate in front of your
- 46:11Speaker 2: teammates and there's twenty five other guys and whoever lost
- 46:14Speaker 2: got the loss of the pitchers pissed that they had
- 46:16Speaker 2: to give up the run, so the starting pitchers.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Magis was a high scoring game.
- 46:20Speaker 2: So yeah, you're happy inside, but you gotta you can't
- 46:23Speaker 2: be the happy hit guy.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Kratz.
- 46:24Speaker 2: You know that you can't be a happy hit guy
- 46:26Speaker 2: just because you got hits. Team lost. You can't be
- 46:29Speaker 2: don't never be the happy hit guy. You gotta fake
- 46:31Speaker 2: it when.
- 46:31Speaker 1: You get home. When you get home, you pop the bottle.
- 46:33Speaker 2: But in front of everybody, you kind of got to
- 46:35Speaker 2: be like when this sucks, but heap inside, You're like, man,
- 46:37Speaker 2: I have four homers today.
- 46:39Speaker 1: It's a good. That's like a good.
- 46:43Speaker 3: Isn't that the worst kind of teammate? Like when the
- 46:44Speaker 3: guy that has a good day and is like super
- 46:46Speaker 3: happy but the team loses. But if he had a
- 46:48Speaker 3: crap day and the team won. He's just in the
- 46:51Speaker 3: clubhouse sulking. I mean that that's the worst, right.
- 46:55Speaker 1: That's the worst. That's happy hit guy. Don't don't be
- 46:59Speaker 1: that guy.
- 46:59Speaker 5: And if you don't know what that means, just open
- 47:02Speaker 5: your eyes and watch, because you see it. You see
- 47:04Speaker 5: it more in the minor leagues. I jokingly said, it's
- 47:07Speaker 5: a big leg thing. Two for four, what's the score
- 47:09Speaker 5: is a very minor league thing. And that's where guys
- 47:12Speaker 5: can't make that transition to being a team player. But
- 47:15Speaker 5: think about the fact that what other historically, like significantly
- 47:19Speaker 5: historical things in baseball you celebrate you have like, they commemorate,
- 47:25Speaker 5: they give you all the bases. I hope they give
- 47:27Speaker 5: him home plate, like to have all that like and
- 47:31Speaker 5: it's an l you can't really celebrate it. Look at agent,
- 47:35Speaker 5: look at it. We just talked about the other day,
- 47:36Speaker 5: Philip Bumber is perfect game. There's less perfect games, or
- 47:40Speaker 5: there's there's more perfect games than four home run games,
- 47:43Speaker 5: like you said, Alana, and you can't celebrate it.
- 47:46Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane, all right, Kratz, hats what you wear and.
- 47:51Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it'll get the o's mojo going around,
- 47:53Speaker 5: but need it.
- 47:55Speaker 1: It's a clean it's a clean. Oh, it's a clean. Oh.
- 47:58Speaker 1: But right now this is how my scoring, so they
- 48:01Speaker 1: need to change it up.
- 48:03Speaker 3: It looks a little too San Francisco gianty for this
- 48:06Speaker 3: Dodgers fan. By the way, Dodgers' territory is next. Stay
- 48:10Speaker 3: with us right here on the Foul Territory platform, Dodgers
- 48:13Speaker 3: Territory with myself in Clintesius. So for all of us
- 48:16Speaker 3: on Foul Territory, aj, Eric, Claudia, Jeremy, Gabby, everybody, thank
- 48:21Speaker 3: you so much for being here. We'll see you tomorrow.
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