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By Order of the Faithfuls: A Traitor’s Worst Nightmare (S1 E1) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: All right, everyone, welcome into by Order of the Faithfuls.
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Speaker 1: I'm wells Adams, I'm alongside.
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Speaker 2: Tamba Judge and Dolores Catana.
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Speaker 1: Now we're trying to figure out what we are going
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Speaker 1: to refer to you listeners as, and we were batting
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Speaker 1: around the idea of calling the listeners faithfuls? Are we
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Speaker 1: good with that?
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Speaker 3: Are faithfuls?
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Speaker 1: Are faithfuls?
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Speaker 4: Our faithfuls? Our faithfuls part of the faithful club? But
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Speaker 4: then does that exclude the trader people? Because you know,
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that sleep with cloaks on
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Speaker 4: and go food shopping with cloaks on.
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Speaker 2: So why don't we get some voting.
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Speaker 3: In the inner circle the fellow turrets, the silent majority.
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Speaker 1: Let's clip this right here and then ask everyone on
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Speaker 1: Instagram at by Order of the Faithfuls what you guys
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Speaker 1: would like to be called so we can refer to
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Speaker 1: you because this show is for you. So dm us
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Speaker 1: what you guys want to be called? And the biggest
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Speaker 1: I guess vote getter wins. Yes.
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Speaker 4: I love the interactive This is what this game is
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Speaker 4: all about, right exactly. It's inclusive, it's interactive, and that's
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Speaker 4: why we all love it. So much. So, yeah, write
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Speaker 4: in let us know what you'd like to be called
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Speaker 4: by us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now go. Turning on season one, I was like,
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Speaker 3: I suddenly forgot everything that happened. It seems like it
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Speaker 3: was so long ago, and I actually forgot the fact
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Speaker 3: that there were celebrities and civilians.
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Speaker 4: You think they should do that again?
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Speaker 3: I know, let's talk about that.
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Speaker 4: What do you think? Well?
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Speaker 1: I loved it, by the way, Like, I think it's
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Speaker 1: such an interesting wrinkle. The other thing that I think
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Speaker 1: makes it really compelling is this is going to come
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Speaker 1: across as elitist, but it's just how I felt when
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Speaker 1: I was on the show that the celebrities quote unquote
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Speaker 1: didn't care so much about the money, But when you
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Speaker 1: have civilians in there, I think that the money changes
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Speaker 1: a lot of things with them. Case in point, at
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Speaker 1: the end of the season that Doris and I were on,
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Speaker 1: you guys all kind of split it where I think
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Speaker 1: if you had people who really wanted more money, they
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Speaker 1: would have been more cutthroat at the end. So I
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Speaker 1: do think it could make for more compelling television. But
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Speaker 1: there is one issue with casting people who aren't normally
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Speaker 1: on TV, right, And what's that?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's because they don't know the ins and outs
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Speaker 3: of TV. And you know, it's hard to if you
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Speaker 3: ever had a friend on housewives and you're like, they're
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Speaker 3: talking about their neighbor's sisters rather down the street. Nobody cares,
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Speaker 3: Nobody cares. Get to the point, let's talk about things
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Speaker 3: that matter that are going to make it on TV.
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Speaker 4: I think it's also because they don't have a.
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Speaker 3: Following, but that too, that plays for when it airs.
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Speaker 2: Having said that, but.
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Speaker 4: The build up of before it ears because they mentioned
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Speaker 4: the cast. But I can debunk that theory wells a
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Speaker 4: bit because you know, Ivor may have been a royal
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Speaker 4: and but you know, Gabby was saving the money to
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Speaker 4: get married, and Dylan's driving it around in a broken
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Speaker 4: down van, and he wanted to take his girlfriend out
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Speaker 4: to a nice dinner, and he was living in like.
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Speaker 3: Every time I turn on the ground, there he is
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Speaker 3: with his shirt off, or he's button it up, or wait,
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Speaker 3: I don't even think he's in some foreign country, yeah,
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Speaker 3: or him and his brother golfing together with their shirts off.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, who's the bigger star right now?
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Speaker 4: But wait, my assistant sends me that clip and goes
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Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with this information.
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Speaker 3: Of which was golf golfing. I just look at it
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Speaker 3: and smile.
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Speaker 2: That's all you want. I sent it to my daughter.
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Speaker 4: I said it to him my girlfriend.
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Speaker 3: Was he in anything like was he well known? I
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Speaker 3: didn't know who he was until he was on the show.
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Speaker 3: Was he ever in any kind of TV shows or
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Speaker 3: anything else other.
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Speaker 1: Than No Better?
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Speaker 2: But yeah he did.
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Speaker 4: He had his own show with his brother. He was
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Speaker 4: he's an outdoorsman.
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Speaker 3: He did all that Netflix like yeah, yeah, documentary down to.
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Speaker 1: The travel show that he did with his brother. He
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Speaker 1: was kind of in it, but it turned into it
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Speaker 1: was just really about Zach. So he was just I
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Speaker 1: think a producer and a director for the show. So
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Speaker 1: he's a little bit behind the scenes, but he's not like,
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Speaker 1: you know, being in front of a camera is nothing
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Speaker 1: new to Dylan.
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Speaker 4: I don't think, no, no, but he's he's just a
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Speaker 4: regular guy. Like Dylan's just a regular guy and really
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Speaker 4: needed that money. But he is just a good guy,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, ever needs the money too.
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Speaker 4: The money doesn't trickle down all the way from the Royals.
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Speaker 3: And it's not like he's no matter if you have
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Speaker 3: money or not. Everybody wants the money, but I like,
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Speaker 3: I agree with well, it's like you're more hungry if
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Speaker 3: you really really need it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it always hits different.
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Speaker 4: But Paul was just saying, and I was just printing
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Speaker 4: out my notes that you guys sent me, and he goes, oh,
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Speaker 4: that's when the regular people were in as well, And
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Speaker 4: he goes, I kind of like.
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Speaker 3: That, So what do you what do you think changed?
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Speaker 3: Because there is uh, have you guys watched the other
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Speaker 3: Trader shows.
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Speaker 1: There's like the UK.
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Speaker 3: And maybe in Australia. I watched a little bit before
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Speaker 3: I joined the cast, just because I want to see
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Speaker 3: what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Well, we had to.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of hard to keep interest in it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: There.
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Speaker 1: I mean there is something to be said about, you know,
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Speaker 1: reality TV stars going on TV and making good television.
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Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, I
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Speaker 1: do think you want to have drama and like compelling storytelling.
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Speaker 1: That's another thing that I think a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't realize is like a little bit of a skill
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Speaker 1: is sitting in the interview room and being a good
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Speaker 1: narrator for the show. And I think if you're not
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Speaker 1: used to that it would be professional. Yeah, it would
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Speaker 1: make for boring television. But I wonder listen and I
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Speaker 1: have no idea. I guess we can talk to the
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Speaker 1: production company. I wonder why they made the shift from
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Speaker 1: having celebrities and civilians to just having celebrities, And I
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Speaker 1: wonder if it was just more of like it became
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Speaker 1: much more popular in the United States, which that meant
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Speaker 1: their budget got a little bit bigger, which meant they
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Speaker 1: could pay for more celebrities to be there. And then
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Speaker 1: they realized that the TV making aspect of it was
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Speaker 1: much easier when you have people who are just like,
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Speaker 1: really good at it.
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Speaker 4: True.
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Speaker 2: Well, I agree, yeah, that I agree with.
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Speaker 3: Nobody had any idea that there were guinea pigs for
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Speaker 3: what was about to be one of the biggest reality
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Speaker 3: shows in the world right now.
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Speaker 4: That's well, you know, I'd like for our listeners to
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Speaker 4: also write in and ask them how they feel about
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Speaker 4: the mix of the celebrity and non celebrity people joining,
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Speaker 4: or do they like a full celebrity cast. I'm curious
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Speaker 4: about how they feel about that.
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Speaker 3: I don't think i'd mind non celebrity I just think
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Speaker 3: that they really need to vet them really well. So
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Speaker 3: that they're like.
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Speaker 4: There's a very outgoing in this world.
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Speaker 3: Like Christian he feary, out going, annoying.
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Speaker 1: The one thing that I think that civilians have over
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Speaker 1: celebrities is they can be anyone they want to be.
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Speaker 1: And in this game where you're just basically lying the
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Speaker 1: entire time, it would be so easy to be someone
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Speaker 1: that you're not really Like Tom Sandoval on our season,
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Speaker 1: like couldn't help but be who he was, and everyone
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Speaker 1: had preconceived notions of who he was going into this thing.
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Speaker 4: And he lived up to himself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you really feel about him? Doors? It
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Speaker 1: would be nice to be like completely ambiguous, like not
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Speaker 1: well known by everyone, and be like, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: pretend to be something that I'm not and see if
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Speaker 1: that works, you know, Like I think that it would
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Speaker 1: have been it would have been helpful.
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Speaker 3: To Unlike Rachel, who said that she can use her
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Speaker 3: fandom of Big Brother of her your advantage, calling herself
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Speaker 3: an icon.
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Speaker 2: Ad icon, let me tell you she would last three
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Speaker 2: seconds in the housewife world.
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Speaker 4: Rachel, you would be alive had you spoke like that
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Speaker 4: about yourself. I mean, tamra I And the next time
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Speaker 4: you fail, I want you to walk in and say
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Speaker 4: I'm an icon. I'm gonna call you a queen Crane
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Speaker 4: call me the queen because I'm an icon.
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Speaker 1: Oh god, well, there was. There was some fantastic civilians
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Speaker 1: that were cast, and you mentioned it a second ago.
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Speaker 1: But Christian, I think, was the one who really stuck
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Speaker 1: out to me as being someone who is very, very
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Speaker 1: good at being on camera.
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Speaker 3: I felt, yeah, I mean, he was quirky, he was funny,
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Speaker 3: he was annoying, like he crossed all those boxes. Man,
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Speaker 3: I thought that I'm surprised he lasts as long as
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Speaker 3: he did, and somebody like, I mean, if I was
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Speaker 3: a trader, I'd be like, why can't I just murder him?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I know, I he was all those things, certainly
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Speaker 4: all those things, and he was you would have think
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Speaker 4: he was been doing this a long time.
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Speaker 3: I know, let's get to the round table. Everyone gathers
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Speaker 3: around the table, put the blindfolds on. Do you guys
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Speaker 3: remember that moment? I mean, how could you not in
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Speaker 3: your own experience.
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Speaker 4: I just want to say that it was the best
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Speaker 4: experience of my entire fifty four years here, and it
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Speaker 4: was It's hard to watch because I miss it so much,
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Speaker 4: so it just I can't explain the feeling that I
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Speaker 4: have from from it because I don't have the words.
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Speaker 4: But to watch them going to the round table, and
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Speaker 4: I'll never forget. The funny thing is it's very serious.
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Speaker 4: You're walking to the round table, and as soon as
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Speaker 4: we pass the big pile of money, Danielle falls right
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Speaker 4: on our face. Like it wasn't like a trip, it
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Speaker 4: was like and it was so because that room echoes.
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Speaker 3: And it was like, oh my god, oh so on
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Speaker 3: our our season. I don't know if they showed it,
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Speaker 3: but Banana's grabbed some of the gold and he took
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Speaker 3: and took it. Yeah, and literally like he got a spanking,
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Speaker 3: Like Alan's like, don't you ever do that again?
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Speaker 2: Well, do you remember when Danielle fell?
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Speaker 1: Yes? And I felt so embarrassed. I was, I was,
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Speaker 1: I felt so bad for her, you know, Oh god.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think they didn't.
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Speaker 4: Show more embarrassing moments that they didn't show it though, right,
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Speaker 4: they didn't.
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Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing that, so they must not have
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Speaker 3: showed it, but do they do. Like what people don't
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Speaker 3: know is like as soon as you get in there
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Speaker 3: and you're all sitting around, they drop cameras from the ceiling,
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Speaker 3: things like open up and cameras come out. There's so
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Speaker 3: there's like I feel like there's one hundred cameras in there.
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Speaker 3: Then they start playing that song that they don't even
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Speaker 3: air on TV. They just said hanging what's it called
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Speaker 3: a tree, which is so freaking creepy.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't be a more perfect song.
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Speaker 3: And it's dead quiet in there, and they're playing the
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Speaker 3: song and everybody's in their head and they got that
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Speaker 3: Oh it's very very eerie.
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Speaker 4: I'm excited, thinking my soul is excited talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Out of the middle of the table. The middle of
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Speaker 1: the table rises up, and when it rises up, it
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Speaker 1: reveals all these robot cameras pelcos that are all like
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Speaker 1: looking at all of us, and I just remember, you know,
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Speaker 1: everyone gets so quiet. You put that that blindfold on,
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Speaker 1: and it's so dead quiet that I could just hear
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Speaker 1: my heart beating, like going crazy.
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Speaker 4: Wait, can we talk about one second? Well, yeah, when
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Speaker 4: that those cameras come up and Tom Sandoval gets into character.
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Speaker 2: In three point two seconds. Oh yeah, with the one
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Speaker 2: eye up.
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Speaker 4: Krishelle wanted a projectile vomit all over him, and.
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Speaker 3: That's something a civilian wouldn't do.
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Speaker 1: Right. You don't know, but yeah, no, he did live
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Speaker 1: up to good TV making.
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Speaker 4: I will say that he did, like you know what
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Speaker 4: he it was almost he redeemed himself to a lot
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Speaker 4: of people being a Putts because it was like funny,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 2: But but it didn't last like them people.
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Speaker 3: So Puts is better than a cheater. So it's one
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Speaker 3: step up from a cheater.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I look at Arianna now, and that bitch
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Speaker 4: is doing good.
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Speaker 3: I know she's like, it's the best thing you ever
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Speaker 3: did was cheating on?
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Speaker 4: Anybody ever made out so well from being cheated on?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: In the history.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Putts's Ryan Lochtey, I take it you don't
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Speaker 1: like him. No, I think he's hilarious, I you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean I remember him, yeah, and I remember rooting
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Speaker 1: for him in the Olympics too. But I do because
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the other side of making reality
13:04
Speaker 1: TVs TV shows at this point, and sometimes I do
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Speaker 1: feel very bad about someone's edit that they get that
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Speaker 1: like I'm not sure if it's like it seems like
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Speaker 1: a little below the belt and them making fun of
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Speaker 1: Ryan just kind of walking around like a puts in
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Speaker 1: an idiot and like playing that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but he's a big built guy. He
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Speaker 4: had a suit on and you know, he just kind
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Speaker 1: You know, when Alan's walking around the turret, none of
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Speaker 1: us were tapped on the shoulder.
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Speaker 2: You mean, when he's walking around the rounds Heter.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, no, not me.
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Speaker 2: The three of us know, that's why we're faithfuls here.
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Speaker 1: So this is what I think is interesting when I
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Speaker 1: watched it back, is if I were to have been
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Speaker 1: touched on the shoulder, how would I have responded in
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Speaker 1: that moment? Because you want to be quiet? But the
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Speaker 1: Christian guy like has this big smile on his face,
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Speaker 1: which was like, I was like, ooh, that's so what
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Speaker 1: a great shot that would be. If I was to
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Speaker 1: produce user and you know video village, I wonder what
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Speaker 1: would you guys do if you were touched on the shoulder?
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Speaker 1: Would you react at all? Or just stay as quiet
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Speaker 1: as possible?
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Speaker 3: I think stay as quiet as possible.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't really say what you do in that moment, right.
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Speaker 3: Maybe a smark But he was like kind of over
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Speaker 3: the top, like cook, you know, and then who was
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Speaker 3: it that?
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Speaker 1: Just?
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 3: Suri?
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Speaker 2: Suri?
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Speaker 4: She was like nothing, like No, I would be like her,
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Speaker 4: I think because I'm not very demonstrative in my you know,
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Speaker 4: I don't get worked up and I don't usually like
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Speaker 4: you know, my pulse never changes no matter what who
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Speaker 4: I'm fighting or who I'm arguing with, So I can
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Speaker 4: kind of think that I'd be more stoic than not,
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Speaker 4: but I wouldn't be cornball about it and like getting
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Speaker 4: all excited.
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Speaker 3: No, but it fits his personality. He's kind of cornball.
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Speaker 4: No, So you think about it and you're like, yeah, no,
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Speaker 4: I mean, but then when you're not touched, when you're
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Speaker 4: not hit on the shoulder, I'm offended.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not good enough.
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Speaker 3: I'm not good enough.
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Speaker 2: But then like he's walking around, that's a lot.
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Speaker 4: Well, how long is it with him walking around?
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Speaker 2: A long time?
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Speaker 1: Right, so much longer in reality than it is on TV,
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Speaker 1: because I think they're trying to confuse us. And I
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Speaker 1: mean he probably walked around twenty five times. I feel like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was a lot.
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Speaker 3: And so what were your thoughts on who he chose?
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Speaker 2: Well, clearly clearly he chose.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think he did. It's you know, Cody, Christian,
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Speaker 1: and Surrey are the three that he danced.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: It's very funny that Cody is annoyed by Christian and
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Speaker 1: then has to go and see him the turret and
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Speaker 1: he's like.
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Speaker 2: That's even worse.
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Speaker 4: First of all, getting the big task of becoming a
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Speaker 4: trader and then going in there and seeing the one
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Speaker 4: person you actually couldn't stand that you met.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of a downer right now.
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Speaker 3: You guys, refresh my memory. You can't. The Traders can't
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Speaker 3: go against each other in the very beginning, right.
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Speaker 2: They can't say you're trader. They can elude.
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Speaker 3: But at one point on the show, like a trader
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Speaker 3: can get rid of another Trader, right they do.
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Speaker 1: Boston Rob went fully in on another Trader.
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Speaker 2: Bob the drag Queen.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, in my so, they can banish, not murder,
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Speaker 3: but they can banish their own kind. But at the
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Speaker 3: very beginning of the show, can they isn't there like
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Speaker 3: you have to be so many episodes in before they
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Speaker 3: can start doing that shit.
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Speaker 2: I ever heard that?
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Speaker 1: No, I did. Like Kate from Below Deck, who's someone
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Speaker 1: who's kind of like now omni present on this show,
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Speaker 1: believes that people have preconceived notions of her and apparently
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Speaker 1: her great grandfather is a cousin of Sherlock Holmes, which
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
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Speaker 3: Great great grand I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if any of those things are true,
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Speaker 1: But I love that she said.
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Speaker 4: I didn't believe her because ever since I uh, ever
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Speaker 4: since I was on the Traders.
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Speaker 2: I believe no one.
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Speaker 4: Anymore, just so you know. So.
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Speaker 2: By the way, although Kate is my very.
18:04
Speaker 4: Dear friend and I love her dearly, I'm going to
18:07
Speaker 4: DM her and ascri if that was true. But it's not,
18:08
Speaker 4: I said Wire, but see another world like you, like
18:12
Speaker 4: at another time, I would have before Traders, I would
18:14
Speaker 4: have believed her.
18:15
Speaker 3: Really, I don't know. I think she just set up
18:18
Speaker 3: for the show just I think so too.
18:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:21
Speaker 3: But everybody is clearly afraid of Cody because of him
18:24
Speaker 3: winning Big Brother. I've never been a big brother. I
18:27
Speaker 3: never watched the show. Teddy was on it for like
18:30
Speaker 3: a hot second, so I watched like two episodes. Tell
18:32
Speaker 3: me she was on and I just after she was gone.
18:35
Speaker 3: I never watched it, So I don't know anything really
18:38
Speaker 3: about that show.
18:39
Speaker 1: I'm the same way, you know what, when it comes
18:41
Speaker 1: to like who the players are starting to like create
18:46
Speaker 1: theories about it. It's interesting that a handful of people
18:50
Speaker 1: suspect AyL Dean because she looked jittery and anxious after
18:55
Speaker 1: the track, which is such a hard thing. Like, I
18:58
Speaker 1: don't think anyone knows how they would react in that situation.
19:03
Speaker 4: Everybody talks a lot of shit while they're watching it, like,
19:07
Speaker 4: how could you not know? How could? Like my family
19:10
Speaker 4: was yelling at me when I came home. It was
19:12
Speaker 4: a whole thing. And I mean after they watched it,
19:16
Speaker 4: they were like, my kids were like embarrassed of me.
19:18
Speaker 4: I'm like, what did you want? Made another land? Yeah?
19:22
Speaker 3: I know you're wrong about everything, but you made it
19:24
Speaker 3: all the way to that.
19:24
Speaker 4: I got the first in the Last Trader write but listen,
19:27
Speaker 4: I'll take it.
19:28
Speaker 3: I think it's the hardest part of the game is
19:31
Speaker 3: you have to go off stupid things, especially in the beginning,
19:33
Speaker 3: because you believe nothing legit to like go off of.
19:37
Speaker 3: It's like on my season, it was somebody was breathing loud.
19:41
Speaker 3: Somebody was, you know, chittering.
19:42
Speaker 4: I remember that, like you were breathing. Then he's like,
19:45
Speaker 4: but I have asthma, Like he didn't know what to
19:47
Speaker 4: say because he was being accused. Then she said, see,
19:49
Speaker 4: you lied about that. You don't have asthma.
19:52
Speaker 3: You just try to find anything and everything I know.
19:55
Speaker 4: So if you're lied about that, then you're lying about everything, right,
19:58
Speaker 4: So mm.
19:58
Speaker 1: Hmm my big theory going into it. It didn't work, obviously,
20:02
Speaker 1: But what I was trying to do is I was
20:04
Speaker 1: trying to eliminate people that I didn't think could be
20:09
Speaker 1: traders and then have a pool of people that I
20:13
Speaker 1: think would be.
20:14
Speaker 2: So I'm really smart and.
20:15
Speaker 1: I was trying to do it. Like, if I was
20:17
Speaker 1: producing this show, you know, I like Tom Sandoval is
20:20
Speaker 1: a good example. I said, if I'm producing this show,
20:23
Speaker 1: there is nothing more uninteresting than making America's biggest villain
20:28
Speaker 1: a villain again. So I'm not making him a trader.
20:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing.
20:32
Speaker 4: Well, he said it. He's like, I would not have
20:34
Speaker 4: signed up for this show if I was. He goes,
20:37
Speaker 4: look at me, Do I need to be a trader
20:39
Speaker 4: right now? I'm the most hated man in America. The
20:42
Speaker 4: New York Times actually did a article on it.
20:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor guy.
20:46
Speaker 1: But there were other people like like I in from
20:49
Speaker 1: our season. I was like, I just don't know. Unless
20:52
Speaker 1: she's the best actor in the world, she didn't really
20:55
Speaker 1: kind of under even understand what was going on in
20:56
Speaker 1: the game. I was like, there's no way they're making
20:58
Speaker 1: you a trader. Also, like you seem like someone who's me,
21:01
Speaker 1: Like I need I need my beauty sleep and so
21:04
Speaker 1: I can't stay up in this turret for too long.
21:06
Speaker 1: So that's what I was trying to do. It when
21:08
Speaker 1: when I got out of you know, out that makes
21:11
Speaker 1: sense the roundtable, and I was wondering what you what
21:14
Speaker 1: You guys were trying to pinpoint and figure out who
21:18
Speaker 1: the traders were so early on in the show.
21:22
Speaker 2: So I couldn't.
21:23
Speaker 4: I I was what I was trying to pinpoint was
21:27
Speaker 4: getting what other people were thinking because I was still
21:30
Speaker 4: very new to the show.
21:33
Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is I watched a.
21:36
Speaker 4: Bit of the first season when it first came out,
21:39
Speaker 4: and once Resid got murdered, I lost interest because he's
21:43
Speaker 4: my friend.
21:44
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I don't feel like And then
21:45
Speaker 2: I got.
21:46
Speaker 3: That was episode one. I know you watched one episode, yeah, and.
21:51
Speaker 4: Then you would and play and then I and then
21:53
Speaker 4: I just was like, but no, But then I binged it.
21:56
Speaker 2: Before I got there.
21:57
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha.
21:57
Speaker 4: Why did you watch it as a whole all the time?
22:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched. I tried to watch the Australian one.
22:02
Speaker 3: I tried to watch.
22:03
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm saying before you were asked to be on
22:05
Speaker 4: the show, was it something you tuned in?
22:07
Speaker 3: And yeah, I did, because Brandy was on a new
22:11
Speaker 3: Brandy a new Kate and yeah, but obviously you watch
22:15
Speaker 3: it again closely, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
22:19
Speaker 4: So I was feeling my way through from since the
22:24
Speaker 4: time I got there, and I was kind of like
22:25
Speaker 4: going off everybody's opinion but making my own.
22:30
Speaker 3: Yeah. For me, it was like the people that I
22:32
Speaker 3: did know, like the housewives, are they acting different? Are
22:38
Speaker 3: they not talking about the show? Are they you know?
22:40
Speaker 3: And then other people like there's certain people that were
22:42
Speaker 3: accusing people of being traded. You're a trader, you're a trader,
22:45
Speaker 3: and the other ones that would never even say the
22:46
Speaker 3: word acute, they would never accuse anybody being a trader,
22:49
Speaker 3: or the ones that are saying I'm not a trader,
22:51
Speaker 3: I'm not a trader all the time. Like to me,
22:54
Speaker 3: I was like, that's kind of like a red flag.
22:56
Speaker 3: If you keep saying you're not a trader, in my mind,
22:58
Speaker 3: you're a damn trader.
23:00
Speaker 4: That's why Tony got banished, right, Well, Tony got banished
23:05
Speaker 4: because he was so dead set on saying I'm an investigator,
23:10
Speaker 4: I came here to play, I would never be and
23:14
Speaker 4: he just talked and talked and talked, and that's how
23:18
Speaker 4: that's what made people very suspicious of him.
23:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Rachel was suspicious of Cody because she knows
23:26
Speaker 1: him outside the game. She can tell that she's a trader.
23:28
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that there are people that can pinpoint things
23:33
Speaker 1: so quickly, because I feel like she was good our season.
23:37
Speaker 1: We had no clue. I didn't until I got banished
23:41
Speaker 1: to dive the clue. But we had no clue. But
23:43
Speaker 1: good for Rachel for figuring that out.
23:45
Speaker 4: Good.
23:46
Speaker 3: I think Rachel knows somebody outside of the show you
23:50
Speaker 3: can tell when they're acting different.
23:53
Speaker 4: That's true to me because then the Housewives, well you
23:57
Speaker 4: know what it was.
23:58
Speaker 2: The Housewives got killed so quickly.
24:02
Speaker 4: You weren't able to tell if they were ever acting
24:04
Speaker 4: different because they didn't get to be able.
24:06
Speaker 2: To act differently. Yeah, that sucks, It did sucks.
24:10
Speaker 4: And what did they do the first two seconds in
24:12
Speaker 4: the tourret Let's go after the Bravo people and separate them.
24:16
Speaker 4: What do you call it?
24:17
Speaker 2: The annoying one?
24:18
Speaker 4: He says. He's like, yeah, well they have a strong presence,
24:23
Speaker 4: all three of them together.
24:24
Speaker 2: We got to break them up.
24:26
Speaker 4: And then Resa trying so hard at the mission is
24:30
Speaker 4: essentially what got them killed.
24:32
Speaker 3: You know, I would love to know how they come
24:34
Speaker 3: up with the missions and how they map out an
24:37
Speaker 3: entire season of all these missions. I mean every year.
24:40
Speaker 3: I'm so happy in ours. Nobody had to be buried alive.
24:44
Speaker 3: That was a deal breaker for me. That was something
24:47
Speaker 3: in negotiations. I said, I will not be buried alive
24:51
Speaker 3: or put into any kind of little tiny box and
24:55
Speaker 3: closed up. I just I'm super clastophobic. Can't do it.
24:58
Speaker 2: I'm taking you're taking my breath away.
24:59
Speaker 4: I don't care out the bugs, guys, I don't care
25:01
Speaker 4: about that, but I absolutely what wells you care about
25:05
Speaker 4: the bugs?
25:05
Speaker 1: Yeah? They asked me, you know, was is there one
25:08
Speaker 1: thing that you won't do? I said, if there's spiders
25:10
Speaker 1: or bugs put on me, I will leave. They're like,
25:11
Speaker 1: what about twenty thousand dollars? And I said, I don't
25:13
Speaker 1: care about twenty thousand dollars. Not do that. But I
25:16
Speaker 1: could do. I could sit in the casket for three
25:19
Speaker 1: hours so you and.
25:21
Speaker 2: Get buried and have dirt put on you.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd be fine with that, but spider
25:26
Speaker 1: on me would absolutely.
25:28
Speaker 3: I would have a heart. I would die in there.
25:30
Speaker 3: You would just have to leave me there because I
25:32
Speaker 3: would be dead and that has to tell you.
25:35
Speaker 4: I went to a very tiny, little small town dinery yesterday.
25:39
Speaker 4: It was like a living room, and they sat us
25:41
Speaker 4: in this little booth and as I was walking to
25:43
Speaker 4: the booth, the.
25:46
Speaker 2: Walls started to close in on me. I was like,
25:48
Speaker 2: I'm out.
25:49
Speaker 3: No, No, takes me back to my my kids are
25:52
Speaker 3: little when I went on that Disneyland submarine ride, not
25:55
Speaker 3: knowing that you're like squashed in this tight and it
25:58
Speaker 3: goes underwater. I almost had a freaking panic attack inside
26:01
Speaker 3: that something. Nope, ever since then, the bugs all day.
26:05
Speaker 1: I do have an interesting fact about the games or
26:08
Speaker 1: the missions. I believe they're called right yeah is you know,
26:13
Speaker 1: for at least for our season. The UK season had
26:17
Speaker 1: just filmed right before we did, and they all had
26:21
Speaker 1: almost the exact same games we had, so they are
26:24
Speaker 1: just recreating those for the American audience. And the reason
26:28
Speaker 1: why I know that is because Dylan after the show
26:30
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, I'm launching the UK
26:33
Speaker 1: one and I'm seeing all the the you know, we
26:37
Speaker 1: had to do that dragon boat race and all that
26:39
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. He was like, I'm seeing they're doing
26:42
Speaker 1: that right before we are. So they come up with
26:44
Speaker 1: one idea and then they just I guess parse it
26:46
Speaker 1: out for the other shows.
26:48
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know that. That's a good fact to know.
26:50
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't.
26:51
Speaker 3: I know that either very and I've seen like the missions,
26:56
Speaker 3: they're stepping it up each season.
26:59
Speaker 4: Well they have to, and you know it's all in
27:02
Speaker 4: the creativity, right. So I think that this season, call
27:07
Speaker 4: it a hunch, but they're going to make more of
27:10
Speaker 4: an incentive financially to a single person, like it's not
27:15
Speaker 4: just for the whole group or whoever wins. I feel
27:19
Speaker 4: like somehow they're going to have to make more of
27:22
Speaker 4: a financial incentive for this.
27:25
Speaker 1: Why do you think that, I don't know.
27:28
Speaker 4: So people try harder. I think you just have to
27:32
Speaker 4: make people want something more. I tried hard. I tried
27:36
Speaker 4: very hard. I never cared about winning a shield. I
27:40
Speaker 4: never cared. I just cared because I was part of
27:43
Speaker 4: a group and I wanted to do well for them.
27:46
Speaker 1: So I don't disagree with you. I think that goes
27:48
Speaker 1: back to my point that I opened with, is like
27:52
Speaker 1: I think that the more money needs to be involved
27:56
Speaker 1: for celebrities to really really care, because I think I
28:02
Speaker 1: noticed that from our season where people were like I
28:05
Speaker 1: don't care, you know, like, I'm not going to break
28:07
Speaker 1: my back for this thing. I don't care that much.
28:11
Speaker 3: I never thought I was going to win, so I
28:12
Speaker 3: didn't care. I'm still trying to still trying to figure
28:15
Speaker 3: out why I was there.
28:16
Speaker 2: And what I was doing.
28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were trying to not die from from COVID.
28:21
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was my biggest life.
28:24
Speaker 2: You were literally surviving.
28:26
Speaker 1: I was really.
28:35
Speaker 3: What did you guys think about the first mission? Did
28:38
Speaker 3: you guys have to do anything like that? With fire?
28:40
Speaker 1: It was almost exactly the same. Well, we had to
28:43
Speaker 1: row boats and we went to that exact lock. I
28:48
Speaker 1: think we had to do something very similar. We were
28:50
Speaker 1: all just in one big boat, but this one was
28:53
Speaker 1: a couple of row boats and stuff. And it's funny
28:57
Speaker 1: because you do have to delegate this decision making, right,
29:01
Speaker 1: Like some people need to be rowing, some people need
29:04
Speaker 1: to be like yelling out to row, some people need
29:07
Speaker 1: to be steering. Some people like Kate just.
29:08
Speaker 3: In she just sat back.
29:11
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's better to sit back than have
29:13
Speaker 4: people that are actually no use of the actual mission
29:18
Speaker 4: but refuse to not be involved.
29:21
Speaker 3: That was Kate you're talking about.
29:22
Speaker 4: Kate, No, she did that no, Kate just sat back
29:26
Speaker 4: and said, let somebody better do it.
29:28
Speaker 3: But like, but if you get overly involved like Resa did,
29:34
Speaker 3: and you're screaming and yelling and overreacting, you're dead.
29:39
Speaker 4: Once again. I say it was more for the team
29:42
Speaker 4: because the housewives on our show, not that we're not
29:45
Speaker 4: talking about our show. We're talking about here, but even
29:48
Speaker 4: like with Reza, we cared about the team more than
29:53
Speaker 4: the gamers cared.
29:54
Speaker 2: They care. Gamers played for themselves.
29:56
Speaker 4: We played Bravo plays for the team.
29:59
Speaker 2: So to think of out that before you guys try
30:01
Speaker 2: to get rid of.
30:01
Speaker 4: Us again, four housewifes guide off the bat, off the
30:04
Speaker 4: off the boat first thing to help the team knowing that,
30:09
Speaker 4: well we didn't. I me and Durinda found out after
30:11
Speaker 4: we got off that we figured out that we're probably
30:13
Speaker 4: up for murder at night. But but you know, and
30:16
Speaker 4: Ress was yelling at everybody because he wanted everybody to win,
30:21
Speaker 4: as it like there was a camaraderie. But the gamers
30:23
Speaker 4: they'll cut your throat. They don't care. As you see here, Yeah.
30:27
Speaker 1: Looking for a weakness for sure. The one thing that
30:29
Speaker 1: was interesting about this mission compared to the missions that
30:34
Speaker 1: we had to do on our season was there was
30:37
Speaker 1: no immunity shield available on this mission, so that was
30:41
Speaker 1: must have been something that they implemented down the line,
30:44
Speaker 1: because I don't remember there being like if you get
30:47
Speaker 1: there first, your boat gets immunity tonight, right, Yeah.
30:51
Speaker 3: I think that every season they're doing a little different
30:53
Speaker 3: tweaks to each cast. Our season is when they started
30:57
Speaker 3: adding the extra shields during the missions, which makes you
30:59
Speaker 3: work even harder to make the game more fun.
31:03
Speaker 1: Well, both teams who were able to finish the mission,
31:05
Speaker 1: so the green team got twenty thousand dollars and a
31:09
Speaker 1: blue team got ten thousand dollars. It came down to
31:11
Speaker 1: the wire. How much do you believe that it really
31:14
Speaker 1: was that close or that they kind of stretched it
31:16
Speaker 1: out so they both could make the uh make the time.
31:20
Speaker 4: So listen, it's the first mission, right, so they kind
31:23
Speaker 4: of give you a little leeway.
31:25
Speaker 2: They probably did help them.
31:26
Speaker 3: Out a little bit, oh for sure.
31:27
Speaker 2: And I'm not against that.
31:29
Speaker 3: You guys, remember like before they do the missions, like
31:32
Speaker 3: off camera, there's like a whole team that comes out
31:34
Speaker 3: like a safety team, and is that and they explain
31:36
Speaker 3: the mission to you?
31:37
Speaker 2: Yeah?
31:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, at any mission, did you're like what they just say,
31:41
Speaker 3: I don't even know, always talking.
31:42
Speaker 2: About no I listened.
31:45
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I don't listen. But there was
31:47
Speaker 3: a few I'm like, I have I have no idea
31:49
Speaker 3: what we're doing, but okay, let's just go No. See,
31:52
Speaker 3: I was very tuned in.
31:54
Speaker 2: I listened. I'm always a rule follower too.
31:59
Speaker 1: It is also hard to listen to directions from someone
32:02
Speaker 1: who's speaking with like a really thick Scottish accent.
32:06
Speaker 2: Right wait, I'm used to that.
32:10
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you are definitely inso that with your boyfriend there.
32:14
Speaker 3: Some of them I didn't quite I didn't completely understand.
32:17
Speaker 3: Like I got the premise of it, but I didn't
32:19
Speaker 3: completely understand. And I'm kind of that person that has
32:24
Speaker 3: to do it to understand it. You just can't tell me.
32:26
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, I got it. So some
32:28
Speaker 3: of them were like, I'm not sure what I'm doing.
32:31
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna follow everybody. I just follow follow all somebody.
32:35
Speaker 4: What really surprised me is, see, we haven't gotten to
32:39
Speaker 4: the shield yet. Was there there was a shield? Right?
32:41
Speaker 2: Who you really see with somebody?
32:45
Speaker 4: The character of somebody, And this is something I was
32:49
Speaker 4: looking to see characters of people more.
32:51
Speaker 2: Than I was trying to pick out a trader.
32:53
Speaker 4: I wanted to see who I wanted to get close
32:56
Speaker 4: to by the way they treated other people when they
32:59
Speaker 4: played the game.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was part of like.
33:02
Speaker 4: My strategy, if you want to call it a strategy
33:04
Speaker 4: or whatever. I do that in life anyway. But that's
33:08
Speaker 4: one of the things I brought to the game. Is like,
33:10
Speaker 4: you just ft over the person you were to grab
33:14
Speaker 4: that shield. It's a game right thing to do.
33:17
Speaker 3: But now I don't like you for it, you know what, Well,
33:19
Speaker 3: that shows your character.
33:21
Speaker 4: That's what That's what my thing was. And if you
33:23
Speaker 4: didn't get off that boat or you know, I remember,
33:29
Speaker 4: I remember getting off the boat and I looked around
33:31
Speaker 4: and I looked at the people who were of no
33:35
Speaker 4: use on that boat. But we're not moving gamer gamer
33:38
Speaker 4: gamer really And one thing I find with in the
33:42
Speaker 4: Traders is there's inherently a little bit of a selfish
33:45
Speaker 4: component to them in their character.
33:48
Speaker 3: You have to if you're going to your contestants, remember
33:51
Speaker 3: that out of the words of Dolores or what.
33:54
Speaker 1: It's also really easy to put a target on your
33:59
Speaker 1: back if you are willing to sacrifice yourself like that, right,
34:02
Speaker 1: Like it's such an easy argument to be like, well,
34:05
Speaker 1: of course you are.
34:08
Speaker 2: Getting this shield. You're a trainer because you're.
34:10
Speaker 1: A trader, and it's not you're not up for you know,
34:14
Speaker 1: murder tonight. And that's a very compelling argument, and it
34:18
Speaker 1: was one that I fell into on our season and
34:21
Speaker 1: I was completely wrong about. But I can see how
34:23
Speaker 1: gamers are like, we can use this against them.
34:27
Speaker 4: Right, so watch out for that. Guys, play for that
34:30
Speaker 4: shield because because then you can also put a target
34:34
Speaker 4: on your back. Now, in my show, Sam never fought
34:38
Speaker 4: for a shield. I never fought for a shield. Who
34:43
Speaker 4: else Iver didn't care about getting a shield? And Danielle
34:48
Speaker 4: gave me her shield in the church.
34:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was weird. I have to admit that was odd.
34:56
Speaker 4: She was like playing against herself. But I didn't want
34:59
Speaker 4: it because I really didn't want it. But but she
35:04
Speaker 4: made me very faithful to her for that, because if
35:06
Speaker 4: somebody does something for me, then I act like, oh
35:09
Speaker 4: my god, now I owe you my life in real life,
35:12
Speaker 4: and Carolyn kept saying to me, don't worry, she'll be
35:16
Speaker 4: She'll be here for breakfast. Really like, if she doesn't
35:21
Speaker 4: show up to breakfast, I'll die.
35:23
Speaker 2: If she gave me her Shelt. Oh my god, I'll
35:26
Speaker 2: never live with myself.
35:27
Speaker 4: That girl wanted this game so bad.
35:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, everyone comes back after the mission, and some
35:34
Speaker 1: people are considering that the trader should take the challenge
35:38
Speaker 1: into consideration, which I think is very funny, but like,
35:42
Speaker 1: I understand the thought process of like, well, you don't
35:45
Speaker 1: want to kill people that are like really trying hard
35:47
Speaker 1: and it can make make us the most amount of money.
35:50
Speaker 1: But the traders aren't thinking that way at all.
35:52
Speaker 2: They could care less.
35:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, because every trader feels they're making it to the
35:56
Speaker 4: end and winning because they have the advantage of being
35:59
Speaker 4: a trade so they kind of can control who's staying
36:03
Speaker 4: and who isn't right for the most part. So the
36:06
Speaker 4: traders are just like, yeah, no, I don't care. I'm
36:09
Speaker 4: gonna win anyway, and I'm taking all the money, and
36:11
Speaker 4: in this case, the trader did.
36:14
Speaker 1: Once the Faithfuls go to sleep, the Traders meet in
36:16
Speaker 1: the turret for their first murder. Cody's excited to team
36:20
Speaker 1: up with Surrey, but he's not super pumped about Christian.
36:25
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why.
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Speaker 4: Wait, so you're telling me Christian is just a regular
36:32
Speaker 4: guy who comes on who just gets on everybody's nerves.
36:35
Speaker 3: Is this basically pretty much?
36:39
Speaker 4: So?
36:39
Speaker 2: He would be good for reality TV.
36:41
Speaker 1: He's rated reality TV if you ask me, And at
36:44
Speaker 1: this point he is a reality TV star. I wonder
36:47
Speaker 1: if he is really this annoying or if he was
36:50
Speaker 1: playing it up.
36:51
Speaker 4: I feel like he is.
36:53
Speaker 2: I'm going to call it a hunch.
36:54
Speaker 4: I'm going to go out on a limb here and
36:56
Speaker 4: say there's a good chance he is in a good way. Though, Christian,
36:59
Speaker 4: we're not shitting on you. In the first episode here, we.
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Speaker 3: Don't you don't you feel like every season a star
37:05
Speaker 3: is born. And I think Dylan definitely was a star.
37:11
Speaker 3: Who came out that I mean, Phaedra came out a star.
37:15
Speaker 3: She's got several shows after that. Who do you think
37:18
Speaker 3: became the star of this season?
37:21
Speaker 1: Kate? I think, yeah, that's Kate.
37:23
Speaker 4: I can think there you go, She's she's done well.
37:26
Speaker 4: She was so funny. They freaking loved her at Peacock.
37:30
Speaker 4: They loved her on the show. They loved her wit
37:33
Speaker 4: see the UK and Irish people and over there they
37:39
Speaker 4: love that dry sense of humor. They call it taking
37:42
Speaker 4: the piss out of you like they bust. It's inhearrate
37:46
Speaker 4: like they bust your balls all day, like it's they
37:48
Speaker 4: do it to each other. They don't get offended. Tients
37:52
Speaker 4: get offended. Okay, well, in our world we get offended.
37:55
Speaker 4: We don't like practical jokes. That's how you get killed.
37:59
Speaker 4: We don't like making kind of we don't think it's
38:02
Speaker 4: funny making fun of somebody else.
38:04
Speaker 2: But in that culture, they love that, and Kate fit
38:08
Speaker 2: that so well.
38:10
Speaker 3: Well, why would they even consider murdering Kate, Reza and Brandy.
38:14
Speaker 4: Because they wanted to split the vote, They wanted to
38:16
Speaker 4: split their bond and you.
38:19
Speaker 3: Know, because they were Bravo people.
38:21
Speaker 4: Yes, because they say, well, Kate says, Bravo people stick together.
38:26
Speaker 2: I don't know.
38:26
Speaker 3: I thought they were good shields for the traders to
38:28
Speaker 3: hide behind because they were so vocal.
38:30
Speaker 4: I know, but don't they watch the housewife shows. They
38:33
Speaker 4: stab each other in the path more than the show. True.
38:37
Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys are Bravo people, so you're going to
38:40
Speaker 1: defend this. But I can understand the thought process of
38:44
Speaker 1: there's power and numbers. These guys are going to stick together,
38:48
Speaker 1: and we got to break up those numbers so we
38:50
Speaker 1: can still control what's you know, the narrative of the show.
38:55
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you.
38:56
Speaker 1: I understand it.
38:57
Speaker 4: I don't have to like it.
38:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand why you guys auld be like,
39:00
Speaker 1: what's going on with what did we do to you?
39:02
Speaker 2: You know, Let's see.
39:04
Speaker 4: You know, this was the first season, episode one. They
39:08
Speaker 4: were just getting their failures out.
39:10
Speaker 2: I wonder if.
39:10
Speaker 4: That that mindset changes as these seasons go on.
39:17
Speaker 2: It was still very strong in my season m hm.
39:21
Speaker 4: But let's see what next season brings if they're still
39:23
Speaker 4: like that, because you know, they got to switch it up,
39:27
Speaker 4: so we'll see.
39:30
Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting the way there are obviously multiple
39:33
Speaker 1: ways that you can play this game as a trader.
39:35
Speaker 1: You know, you could either be an agent of chaos
39:38
Speaker 1: and have everyone kind of on their toes and really
39:40
Speaker 1: really confused. You can be someone who is kind of
39:43
Speaker 1: like slowly dropping breadcrumbs to lead people in a direction.
39:47
Speaker 1: You can be someone who wants to pile on of
39:49
Speaker 1: what everyone else is thinking that you know is wrong.
39:53
Speaker 1: And I you know, I think it's tough because in
39:55
Speaker 1: the beginning, I don't think you know exactly what you
39:57
Speaker 1: want to do, and you also might have conflicting theosis
40:01
Speaker 1: of how to go about it, right, Like, I bet
40:03
Speaker 1: you that Cody's ideas of what he should be doing
40:06
Speaker 1: as a trader is much different than Christians. Right.
40:09
Speaker 3: Well, I think the second one that you talked about
40:11
Speaker 3: with the breadcrumbs, that's that's a trader mindset, very calculated,
40:16
Speaker 3: trying to think ten steps ahead and direct people in
40:20
Speaker 3: different you know, there are different directions us housewives. We're
40:23
Speaker 3: just like, we're just here for the fight, man, That's
40:26
Speaker 3: all we want to do. We don't care about setting
40:29
Speaker 3: people up, like, let's come on, let's get grunts.
40:31
Speaker 4: You know, like in war in the Marines, the first
40:35
Speaker 4: people they put out into the field are the grunts.
40:39
Speaker 2: So we're the housewives on this Traders are the grunts.
40:42
Speaker 4: And I have to say, though, if I had a
40:47
Speaker 4: theory and I didn't have one, I think the best
40:50
Speaker 4: thing is to not have one to take every day
40:53
Speaker 4: because things change every day.
40:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.
40:55
Speaker 4: Don't know who's you have to go into it as
40:59
Speaker 4: you You can't like kind of like think about what
41:03
Speaker 4: you're going to do because you don't know who's showing
41:04
Speaker 4: up either. You really don't until you get there. And
41:07
Speaker 4: everybody has to be handled differently. Now I know, how
41:11
Speaker 4: to handle a gamer. And now I know who I
41:15
Speaker 4: would listen to, who I would be.
41:18
Speaker 2: More suspicious of.
41:20
Speaker 4: You have to really be there to feel it.
41:23
Speaker 2: It's the feeling.
41:24
Speaker 4: It's the gut also that takes some type of role here.
41:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in the beginning it's you're better off
41:33
Speaker 3: listening more than talking, and the more you talk, the
41:36
Speaker 3: more you're going to get yourself more eyes around you.
41:38
Speaker 3: Like for example, on our show, Peppermint was a big
41:41
Speaker 3: personality and she talked, talked talk, well, she slipped and
41:44
Speaker 3: she said accidentally said she was a trader and she
41:48
Speaker 3: got banished because of that, and it was just to
41:51
Speaker 3: slip up. She just misspoke in her words. But at
41:54
Speaker 3: the very beginning, nobody has nothing to do to go
41:57
Speaker 3: off of that would just listen talk less. It's such
42:02
Speaker 3: a balance, I know.
42:04
Speaker 1: But so what's so hard about that, And at least
42:07
Speaker 1: for me was I'm so used to trying to be
42:11
Speaker 1: entertaining on television shows making good television, and like being
42:17
Speaker 1: quiet is it would annoy me and so I but
42:21
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what got me got me in trouble. The
42:25
Speaker 1: one thing that I do wish and I don't know
42:27
Speaker 1: how this would be perceived, but I wish that I was.
42:31
Speaker 1: I had like a notepad with me at all times
42:34
Speaker 1: and was able to write down everything because I would
42:37
Speaker 1: notice things and then I'm flighty and I would just
42:41
Speaker 1: about it, and that I'd watch back and be like,
42:44
Speaker 1: I noticed that, but I don't didn't remember it least
42:46
Speaker 1: you remember.
42:47
Speaker 3: Did you go back each night and I know it's
42:49
Speaker 3: late by the time you get back, you know, to
42:50
Speaker 3: your room. Did you write things down? Did you take notes?
42:53
Speaker 1: Yes?
42:55
Speaker 2: Never, I didn't.
42:57
Speaker 4: I did in the very end, when and I had
43:00
Speaker 4: had enough of Tom Sandibal, and I wrote down all
43:03
Speaker 4: the points on how I was going to go to breakfast.
43:06
Speaker 4: I literally took my book out and I wrote down
43:10
Speaker 4: the points I was going to make for everybody to
43:12
Speaker 4: turn on Sandabal.
43:13
Speaker 2: I get to breakfast, I'm ready to go.
43:16
Speaker 4: I say everything I had to say, and he gets
43:19
Speaker 4: murdered the night before.
43:22
Speaker 2: That's ahile show up.
43:24
Speaker 4: I was like, and I had everybody on board. Everybody
43:27
Speaker 4: was like, he's going tonight, He's going to I'm like, yes, yes,
43:30
Speaker 4: it and then.
43:30
Speaker 2: I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I didn't even
43:33
Speaker 2: get a chance.
43:34
Speaker 3: To do about my moment. My moment my moment.
43:37
Speaker 4: It was my moment and they took it away from me,
43:41
Speaker 4: those damage readers.
43:42
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well it was a great first episode.
43:46
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited to watch episode two because you know,
43:49
Speaker 1: the first episode of these shows really is you're you're
43:53
Speaker 1: kind of just introducing everyone to everybody and like kind
43:57
Speaker 1: of setting the stage, and not a whole lot really happened,
44:00
Speaker 1: even though it's funny because that first episode takes the
44:03
Speaker 1: most amount of time to film. But now that we're
44:05
Speaker 1: getting a second episode and things are gonna start getting
44:08
Speaker 1: dramatic and more fun, I am excited for next week's episode,
44:12
Speaker 1: for sure.
44:14
Speaker 4: I'm very excited and I can't wait to hear from Well,
44:18
Speaker 4: we don't have a name for you guys yet, so
44:20
Speaker 4: reach out to us and tell us what you think.
44:22
Speaker 4: We have two questions for you to think about. What
44:25
Speaker 4: you'd like to be called. We want to call you Faithfuls,
44:28
Speaker 4: but it's going.
44:29
Speaker 2: To be your call. And the other thing is do you.
44:33
Speaker 4: Like the mix of celebrities and non celebrities or do
44:36
Speaker 4: you like celebrities across the board? So those are two
44:38
Speaker 4: things we want to hear from you about. And we
44:41
Speaker 4: are so looking forward and so excited about this.
44:43
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44:53
Speaker 1: week recapping episode two of season one USA of the Traders.
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Speaker 1: See you guys late,