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O'Brien & Doug S5:E20 [March 31, 2022 We Slap Yo Face] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_03: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MojurMultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_03: KMH music in Prescotty, Maine.
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  SPEAKER_03: The rich runner in Westfield, Maine, and Doug's cousin Larry.
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  SPEAKER_00: In my hospital, there's only one word for this type of behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nookie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unacceptable.
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  SPEAKER_05: This this yo-yo this is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_06: Why don't you be down in the basement with your little friend?
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_08: What did the five fingers say to the face?
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  SPEAKER_03: What's your name?
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  SPEAKER_03: Huh?
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  SPEAKER_03: What's your name?
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  SPEAKER_03: Do the intro.
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  SPEAKER_03: You gotta Oh, Doug.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Doug.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, they they know you idiot.
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  SPEAKER_03: They know who I am.
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  SPEAKER_03: Doug.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Will Smith, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why do you sound weird?
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm I I've noticed.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I uh were you talking about the Oscars?
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  SPEAKER_03: So we're recording this on Monday.
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  SPEAKER_03: The Oscars were on last night, which nobody watched.
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  SPEAKER_08: I didn't even know they were on until I saw that thing this morning about Will Smith and Chris Rock.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's how everybody's finding out about it, too, I think, is the day after.
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  SPEAKER_08: Everybody's like, oh, the Oscars were on?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So let's let's talk about it just for a second.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to waste a lot of time on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so Chris Rock gets up there and um basically insults Will Smith's wife, because Will Smith's wife has uh something called alopecia, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh which has caused her to lose her hair.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So he made a joke at her expense.
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  SPEAKER_03: Cool?
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  SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um if she had done it like Britney Spears.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Then yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: If she shaved her head, you'd be oh yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Then I could see the joke, and then I would have been like, yeah, that is funny.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: But when it's a medical thing, it's not funny, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Did he know it was a medical thing?
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  SPEAKER_08: He had to have, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_08: There's all this Chris Rock, he doesn't care.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's all speculation, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, everything everybody has their own side.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then of course Will Smith uh first at first loving the joke.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was laughing at the joke, and then felt the need to get up and clock Chris Rock right on stage in front of millions of well.
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  SPEAKER_08: And the fact that he slapped him and not punched him is interesting too.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you are uh you think it was staged.
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  SPEAKER_08: I I could go either way, but I really don't think it was real.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: I I I you know, it's just there's just too many like nah that you know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: That doesn't make any sense.
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  SPEAKER_03: My wife also my wife also thinks it was staged.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh for ratings, and and somebody said that there's an there's a movie coming out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh Will Smith.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's getting raked over the coals.
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  SPEAKER_03: Will Smith is.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh, but any publicity when you're an actor is good publicity.
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  SPEAKER_08: True, true.
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  SPEAKER_08: And the and the fact that, you know, like I said before, he gets mad at this joke, but he'll let anybody have sex with his wife.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: They haven't opened the job.
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  SPEAKER_08: But he hasn't smacked anybody over that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, come on.
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  SPEAKER_08: So, I mean, so what's the deal?
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't I don't understand.
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  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I for one don't think it was staged, but I I think um Chris Rock should have pressed charges and he should be in jail for assault.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, somebody should have where was security?
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: As soon as it happened, I mean he should have been on the ground, you know, taking out handcuffs.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: But, you know, celebrities are not like us.
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  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_08: They're not regular people.
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  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_08: They're better than us because they're celebrities.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all the time I want to spend on that because it's all next subject all over the place.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, so that kind of put us in a weird mood.
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  SPEAKER_03: But what also kind of puts us in a weird mood is this is the first podcast that we we've done when just out of nowhere, Taylor Hawkins from the Foo Fighters, the drummer, uh basically if if Dave Grohl is the president of the Food Fi Foo Fighters, Taylor Hawkins is the vice president.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's the vice president.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because they're there are P's two peas in the pod.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um just blew everyone away.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: They were on tour and was it Bogoda?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in Columbia.
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  SPEAKER_03: In Colombia.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh was unresponsive.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um the other morning, I guess, or night or something.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well happened Friday.
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  SPEAKER_03: Complaining of complaining of chest pains before.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and of course, can you believe the media?
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  SPEAKER_03: Probably not, but the Colombian media came out and said that he had ten sub upwards of ten substances in his system.
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  SPEAKER_08: But this isn't the first time he's done that.
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  SPEAKER_03: True.
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  SPEAKER_03: He he ha did have a history with heroin.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I knew that.
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  SPEAKER_08: And he did OD one time and was in a coma for two weeks in London.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they found antidepressants, they found opioids, and I don't know that they said any any like like heroin or maybe I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_08: But he but you're in Colombia.
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  SPEAKER_08: True.
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  SPEAKER_08: You're in one of the drug capitals of the world.
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  SPEAKER_03: So uh, you know, hmm, speculation, speculation, speculation.
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  SPEAKER_03: But still, you know, they were on such a ride.
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  SPEAKER_03: They were on such a uh uh upward trajectory with the with the movie that came out.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think um there's something uh Dave Grohl's uh metal uh band just released an uh an album or is about to release an album.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is is Taylor involved in that?
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if he was uh was a dream widow or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Something like that, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and it just But Taylor had his own side project.
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  SPEAKER_03: True.
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  SPEAKER_03: So and he was doing he was doing a lot of things with a lot of other people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, playing drums and being guest doing guest spots on a lot of different people's uh albums and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, was it a surprise?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, definitely a surprise.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um but when you think about the life of Taylor Hawkins and the life of a of a rock star, it's it's not a surprise surprise.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, I think it was a surprise that it was Taylor Hawkins.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you know at the same time, knowing his history, it's not a surprise.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, yeah, that's what I mean.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: So But it's still sad.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's very sad.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's very sad because he was well liked.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, now I don't think you can find anybody that said anything bad about Taylor Hawkins.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so here's the question.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and I'll tell you what I think.
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  SPEAKER_03: Foo Fighters are done.
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  SPEAKER_08: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think they are.
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  SPEAKER_03: You think so?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't think Dave Grohl is gonna want to go back out without Taylor Hawkins.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think Dave Grohl is gonna do something else.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think he'll either start uh he'll either put out a d a solo album, Dave Grohl, uh, and from this point on it'll be solo, and his band will be his band.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, but this isn't the first time he's had to replace the drummer in Foo Fighters.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's true, but but they were so close.
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  SPEAKER_08: I realize that, but d you know, you know, he loses Kurt Cobain, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, and now he loses Taylor Hawkins.
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  SPEAKER_08: But I mean, would Taylor Hawkins want him to be like stop, you know, no more Foo Fighters.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course not.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course not.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you know how uh Dave Grohl kind of wears his emotions on his sleeve.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm almost done this book, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I've I've had it for quite a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just haven't gotten around to reading it, but I'm I'm more than halfway through.
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  SPEAKER_03: So good.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you haven't read it yet, go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's really, really good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Storyteller's what it's called.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just something tells me that he's not gonna be able to get it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, he might not do anything Foo Fighters per se for a while.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: But 'cause they were coming to Bangor, which I did not know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I did know that because somebody Yeah, a friend of mine had had tickets.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some and she's well, I mean, she still has tickets, but I doubt Oh, they're not gonna come up here.
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  SPEAKER_03: I doubt it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh you think the tour will be canceled?
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm I would say like 90% sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: So she's it's it's too it's too soon.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's too soon.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's like it's like when Cliff Burton died.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Metallica, you know, took like two months off and went right back out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was still too soon, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_08: That was way too soon.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, I mean he was he was he was, you know, very integral to the band.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: So to just, you know, well, let's find a new bass player and then go right back out on the road.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that's that's just not Dave Grohl.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: He's already been through this once.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So something tells me that they they pull out of the tour.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um I wouldn't be surprised if it and if that tour is not if take an extended hiatus.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, that that would be the smart thing to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I don't know who you get to replace.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can't replace Taylor Hawkins.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't know who you put behind the kit for Foo Fighters.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't either.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean Who you know and and who would want to fill those shoes?
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  SPEAKER_03: Not right now, no, I wouldn't want to do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's why I say I think he's gonna come back in a different incarnation, whether it's Dave Grohl's solo project or whether he starts a new band.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if he could start a new band at this point.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, he can't leave Nate.
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  SPEAKER_08: Nate's been there since the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, I would I would think that Nate would be in his solo band.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, I would think he's not gonna go anywhere without Nate.
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um because other than Taylor, Nate Nate's been there the longest.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I I I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel for the guy, and I feel for obvious obviously Taylor Hawkins' family.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, two or three kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Three kids, three kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Two or three kids, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, it's just it's a rough situation all around.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean we're talking about it because it's someone that everybody knows, but I mean death is hard on everybody, yeah, no matter who it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, this just happens to be a famous guy that everybody knows, so so uh yeah, it but it's a bummer.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a bummer because Foo Fighters, you know, it's not a big as big a bummer to me as Eddie Van Halen was, because he was such a part of my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love the Foo Fighters, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and it's still, I mean, it's a big deal.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is a big deal.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um and it's just a bummer.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, because Taylor was never he uh I can, you know, honestly say Taylor was never influenced by drumming.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: But I really like the guy.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah as a drummer and as a person.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, not as a musician, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, we talk about we talk about how much we love Sammy Hagar.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because of um the way he lives his life.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, he's he's always got a positive attitude and always looking for the next thing, the next rush, you know, and the next business venture or the next just the next high proverbial.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Taylor Hawkins was kind of that way.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he's yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, he was always living life full speed.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know?
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's just to see that kind of fizzle out like that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's sad.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's sad.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a sad thing.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I don't want to spend too much time on that because that's a depressing subject.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna get pissed off here in a second, but I mentioned Sammy Hagar.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want to show you what I got in the mail today.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh this is one of the only things Sammy Hagar sent you something?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no.
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: This is one of the only um albums of Hagars I do not have.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it happens to be, and it's very famous, actually, um, because they only made one album.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I have not even I've only heard a couple songs off it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't even you see it's still in the shrink wrap.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: I guess we'll say it's still in the plastic.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um this is H-S-A-S.
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  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever heard of it?
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  SPEAKER_03: I have not.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Hagar, Neil Sean from Journey, um, Aronson and Shreve, the bass player and the drummer.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was a project that they put together.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, 19 this was 1984.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it's supposedly, and I've only heard a couple songs off of it, but it's like it's like a cult uh cult classic.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I finally got H S A S uh on C D in the mail today, and my wife doesn't know yet.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: So now she does.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, now she does.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: Tracer! Get down here!
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  SPEAKER_03: If she actually listens to this podcast.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, there's uh I just complete my collection.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was gonna get the I was gonna get the vinyl version, but it was$84.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: So I decided.
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  SPEAKER_03: The vinyl version was eighty four dollars.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a bit it's a collector version.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: So one of these days we'll maybe we'll use these use this for the uh wall of tunes, and then we'll play something from it because it's it's actually yeah I want you to open it first.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: At some point.
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  SPEAKER_03: Of course.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I want to talk about um you came in here kind of in a bad mood about a uh a band that we both like.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um which is a Frontiers Records creation.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's kind of a super group.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, we were talking about it last week, and I was like, man, I have I don't have that album.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_08: So over the weekend, I think it was Saturday, uh I downloaded it.
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  SPEAKER_08: We only have the one.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: So it was really easy to find.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well then the second album is coming out.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's coming out like next week.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think something like that.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: So we're talking about we're talking about Black Swan.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is Robin McAuley on vocals.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_03: Robin McCauley is 70 years old and he's Oh yeah, he looks great.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: He sounds great, yeah.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean he's I think he's one of the more underrated rock vocalists.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I mean, when you when you were thinking about when like when we were talking about rock vocalists, we never even mentioned him.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, we didn't.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: So uh but he he is really underrated.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: I I when I listen to Black Swan or even other Robin Macaulay, I think of Dio.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, he's got he's got definitely a deal quality too.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: So Robin McAuley, you got Jeff Pilson from Dawkins on bass guitar.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, I should say Dawkins and Foreigner, because he's been with Foreigner for like twenty years.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um and Reb Beach.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: Reb Beach from Winger and Whitesnake.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: And somebody else?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: He was he was he playing with somebody else?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, and then and then the drummer.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_08: He played he played with some band.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_08: I think his name's Michael Carr or something like that.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_08: He played with some band I'd never heard of.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, um album was is great, except for the album is really, really, really good.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's just straight up rock and almost metal.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_08: I mean it's it's very it's hard rock, it's like yeah, you know.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's reminiscent of like late 80s, early 90s.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: So before we get into what you want to talk about, uh no, actually, let's do that first because I got it queued up.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: So there's a song on there that that uh rubbed you the wrong way, let's say.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: Very much.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: So tell me about it.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it's it's the song Johnny Came Marching.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_08: And it's a good it's a good song, but I did not appreciate um the implication of the lyrics and the recording.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, which is what?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_08: Which is that veterans are causing mass shootings.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_08: And that really ticked me off.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_08: And you know, and I'd like to say, you know, because I know Robin Macaulay wrote it.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_08: But Robin McAuley on behalf of the veterans community.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean that's that says it all, right?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: That says it all right there.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: Let's read some of these lyrics and then we'll play a little bit of the song.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so uh and I'll be honest with you, I've heard the album, but I didn't listen closely to a lot of the lyrics, especially this one.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_08: And I was fine with the song until the end of the song.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_08: And and we'll so we'll check it out.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: So let's read the the lyrics.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: When I first read the lyrics uh tonight, it uh I th I was thinking PTSD.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: So here's here's uh Johnny came marching.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: Uh when Johnny came marching home, tired from all the fighting, all he wanted was his old life back, far from the thunder and lightning.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: What he saw made him angry, filled him up with hate.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: So he grabbed his guns and ammunition, the rest just sealed their fate.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_03: You never know how your day will go, the song you sing, the love that you bring, the empty shell from the bullet that came straight out of hell.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm just gonna read the chorus, and then we'll play some of it.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: When Johnny came marching home, he knew that he was never gonna be the same.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you know that someone has to take the blame.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Just look what he did when Johnny came marching home.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so let's let's play a little bit of this, and maybe asta, aspect of the tick, tick to the topic.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so there's the first couple verses in in the chorus.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I want to get to the point that really ticked you off, which is near the end, you said.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and I think I just cut it on it right there.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so you'll hear you'll hear a voiceover guy.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_08: And this is what set me off.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_08: This is what pissed me off about it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_08: That was it right there.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_08: Another mass shooting.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_08: So, so this voiceover guy, so the whole song is about this guy's comeback from comes back from war, which PTSD.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_08: Which happens.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_08: It does happen.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_08: Am I saying this has never happened?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_08: Absolutely not.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_08: We all know it has.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_08: But when this voiceover comes, the first thing is this there's war broke out in the Middle East, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, we get that.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_08: Then his next thing is PTSD is a leading cause of suicide and returning soldiers.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, yes, we know that.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_08: Then the last thing is another mass shooting reporting today.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_08: So when I what I'm, you know, what is implied is that these returning soldiers are coming back and then shooting up everybody.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_08: Right, which is not true.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_08: Which is not true.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_08: Not again.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_08: And that's what pissed me off.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_08: And I and I refuse to listen to this song ever again.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_08: I can understand that.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_08: I love the album.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_08: The rest of this album is awesome.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_08: Yep, I can understand that.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm never going to listen to this song again.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_08: Just because.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_08: And and I I'm not saying that he should ever like I should it's not one of those things where they need to take it off and ban it and blah blah blah.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not about that because that's his that's his that's his opinion, that's his point of view.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: You don't agree with it.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_08: I don't agree with it, but uh, it is what it is.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: You, my friend, defended his right to say it.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_08: And I and I I will.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_08: But I'm not gonna listen to it.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_08: That's my right.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_03: So exactly.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_08: You know, so piss off Robin McCauley.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and and you know, it's not easy to piss off Doug.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm a pretty easygoing guy, I think.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_08: But sometimes you rub me the wrong way.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna s well, speaking of not to move on, because I mean that's a pretty important thing.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Johnny came uh marching is um isn't that a movie too?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: Or was that Metallica's that was Metallica's one.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_08: Their video came for this movie called uh Johnny Johnny Got His Gun.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_08: Johnny Got His Gun, that's right.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_08: Which uh Jason Robards and then you know, it's basically World War this kid goes off to fight World War One, uh, loses loses his arms, loses his legs, loses his ability to speak, and so the rest of the movie is just him inside his own head.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_08: He can't communicate.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_08: But he learns to communicate by doing Morris code by banging his head on his bed.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_08: And he just he just keeps saying, kill me.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_08: Kill me.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_08: Kill me.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_08: Because he I mean he's he's a vegetable.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_08: But they're keeping him alive because they're basically experien- It's a very anti-war movie, but it's really, really I watched it and it was really, really good.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I got the point of the movie.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_08: And it's also a book by um I can't remember the guy's name.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know otherwise, but but that's what the it was based on the movie was based on that book, and then Metallica based their video one on this movie.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: So and so when you say Johnny came marching, and if he had just if Macaulay had just pointed out the fact that PTSD is a problem in our veterans.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_08: And we and we get that.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: We know but at the end of the song, Johnny's got a gun, Johnny's got a gun, he's gonna shoot you down, shoot you down.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_08: I mean And then the voiceover.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_08: If if it hadn't been for the voiceover, I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_08: But then he does the he put the voiceovers in, implying that veterans are doing are shooting up people just because they're Right.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_08: That's just that's over the line for me.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: And not only is it over the line, it's it's it's irresponsible.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's not true.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_08: It's has it happened?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's Dis disinformation.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I have another problem with Black Swan.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um because you're right, the album is great.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_08: I love the album.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's really, really good.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um there's one song that really, really rubbed me the wrong way, and it shouldn't have.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe if you're not a musician, you won't get it.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um because I did share this with the band and I shared it with Joko, our guitar player in Nashville, and he couldn't believe that this was that they put this to record.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um I guess I didn't pay attention.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: There's a ballad on here called Make It There.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's and it's fine.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's a rock ballad.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: It's fine.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: The song is fine.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um Red Beach, who's an outstanding guitar player.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: You would think that that he was listening to another song when he did the guitar solo.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I want to play you a little bit of I'll play you a little bit of the song.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's again, it's a stereotypical rock ballad.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's not bad, it's not fantastic, but it's good.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_08: All I see is are like ripped up acid wash jeans right now.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't dislike this song.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's I like this song, but I did I guess I didn't pay attention to the guitar solo.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, again, maybe it's a musician thing.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'll get to the chorus and then I gotta say Robin McConnelly's voice is amazing.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_08: He sounds really, really good, and I really like it.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_08: That's what I really liked about this album.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_08: So that his and you know the music's great and he sounds great.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_05: How many times do you say you're sorry?
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_05: Bobby Car of the Holland Flew me to New York on my birthday But I don't do so much time on the day.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't do it all jokes for me to try to go.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, great.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's a great song.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I really like the song.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I can forward to the guitar solo.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Now just thinking about the the vibe of the song.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: Good so far.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: So far, yeah.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then it ends right.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_03: It ends well.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: What did you think of that?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: It was a little all over the place.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: It was a little It was flash for flash sake.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was like it was like, I'm gonna do all this stuff just because I can't.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: Some of it, I know it wasn't in the wrong key, but it was a different, like.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_03: It gave it a different vibe.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: It did.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_08: Just you know, just during that part, I was like, oh yeah.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_08: But I did I hadn't, I guess I never paid attention to it when I was personalized.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_08: See, right now it sounds right there.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_08: That's where I was like, what?
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well that little that little that little um those tap session right there was in like a different mode or different Hello.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: Listen for the tapping.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_08: It's like it was like you got off, like he forgot what he was doing for a second.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: And that's it's so weird for Reb Beach.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: Reb Beach is amazing.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Spot on, man.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: And who am I to do?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't do what he just did.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: There's no way I could do what he just did.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, I I when I first heard that, I'm like, what was that?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was it was I mean, he's an amazing player, but it just didn't fit.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: It just didn't fit in that song.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: But I still highly recommend that.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_08: I love I do like the album.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_08: I liked it a lot and I really enjoyed it.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_08: So uh so we were talking about I'm looking forward to the new one.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but what's it Black Swan 2, but it's called something else too.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: There's like a title for it.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember what it was.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but again, Frontiers Records.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, Frontiers Records, yeah.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's do our let's let's do our uh w what what am I looking for?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: What are you looking for?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_08: Pushing buttons.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_08: How's your request?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's time for the No, do it again.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: It was too quiet.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was too quiet?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yay! There we go.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Macio.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_03: It's time for the Guitar Legends Alphabet's letter of the day.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_08: Today's episode is brought to you by the letter B.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: B is for Jeff Beck.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Jeff Beck.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: The governor made his mark playing in the Yardbirds, and for Rod Stewart and Roger Waters.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: Always surprising, the British axeman would frequently switch genres and reinvent his sound at will.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: In the eighties, he stopped using a pick because he felt he was wasting three fingers.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Let me say once again, this comes from the Guitar Legends Alphabet, uh, which is by Beck Feiner.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so I love Jeff Beck.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um he's just weird.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: He is a weird one.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: He's just weird.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people don't know that the guitar solo for uh John Bon Jovi's Blaze of Glory is Jeff Beck.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I didn't know that either.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Jeff Beck plays that, and I think he plays a couple other songs on that uh Young Guns 2 uh soundtrack.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_08: And the fact that he doesn't use a pick, I didn't know that either.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I know Mark Knopfler didn't use a pick.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: He doesn't use a pick.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Richie Coston doesn't use a pick anymore either.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting for uh for the uh uh winery dogs.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's amazing.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's even more impressive now that I know that.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: So the letter of the day for the drum.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_08: This is the drum legends alphabet book by Breck Breckfeiner, also.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_08: B is for Cindy Blackman Santana.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_08: As Lenny Kravitz's go-to session player for more than 18 years.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_08: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_08: Cindy's playing style is as cool as it is powerful.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_08: She also plays Latin rock alongside husband and guitar legend Carlos Santana.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_08: Two legends in one family.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: The end.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: The end.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_08: I love that thing, man.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I like those books.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_03: I love I'm glad you I'm glad you picked them up.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I just I just happened to see them on uh, you know how like when you're scrolling through your Instagram feed and there'll be like sponsored ads for stopped.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_08: That's when I saw it.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, wow, that's interesting, you know, music books for kids.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_08: You know?
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_08: So I was like, I gotta get a couple of those.
• 30:12
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• 31:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I am not going to uh you're not gonna close your eyes.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna go and and pick something because we had told ourselves that we want to spend some time on certain band.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that is still going strong.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um despite um what is it?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh one of them had brain surgery, had bra had a brain tumor.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oz Fox.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_03: And and uh Michael Sweet's got cataract uh not cataract um detached retina, so he's where he's got wearing an eye patch.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about He kinda looks like a pirate.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: He does, actually.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: He's a Christian pirate.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about we're talking about Stryper.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: Striper!
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_08: So I will admit this This was the first album I ever heard from Striper.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_08: I heard it at Bible Camp of all places.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_08: Surprise, surprise.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think the first thing I ever heard from Striper, well, I'll play that here in a second, and I I was thrown a little bit as a lot of people were.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I remember, I think, because well we have to back up a little.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_03: Because I went to I I grew up in Prescott Isle uh till fifth grade, and then my parents got divorced and I moved down to Mars Hill for junior high.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: And that's where you and I met.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: And we also had another couple friends uh that hung out all the time and listened to music and did all kinds of other stuff.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I had been a fan of Striper, at least the one song that I heard, and then I found out that you guys knew who Stryper was.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, whoa, this is cool.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: And then I've gone.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: So if you don't know who Striper is, they are a hard rock slash metal band, but they're more metal now than they were then.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, they're way more metal.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um that is Christian and and and basically I read I read somewhere that they've given out like something like fifty-five or sixty thousand Bibles.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, because that's what that was.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: That was their thing.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a gimmick, yeah, but it was evangelization.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: Is what it was what it was.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: They would throw out, you know, most people throw out guitar picks and and other things.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: They're throwing out Bibles.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: They're throwing out Bibles in their concerts because they're trying to get people to you know follow Jesus.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and at that time in my life, I thought that was the coolest thing.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh most people didn't.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, it w it's kind of sad because it was really, it was really great rock.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_08: It's just really rock.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_08: And but they're they're Christian, and they you know, there's they're singing, you know, about Christian themes.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_08: And even like the older adults were like, this is just noise, blah.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_08: And we're like, listen to the big thing.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_08: You know, we're listening, we're listening to it at Bible camp, and you know, like the adults are like, that's garbage, turn that off.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_08: We're like listen to the words.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, listen, man.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh here's the uh here's the song that I heard.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_08: I knew I knew you were gonna play it.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_08: I knew that yeah.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: I was a sucker for a good ballad, you know, when I was in junior high.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: And everybody has a junior high.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I thought this was a woman.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think everybody did.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh a lot of people did.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I was fooled last week.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_08: With what?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_08: By the striper song you played.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's right.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you yeah.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_08: I thought it was a woman doing.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: I was like Um They had a big hit with the songs.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, huge, huge.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: This is how they broke through, honestly.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: So and I follow Michael Sweet on Facebook and and Instagram, and he's he's one of the few.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: Michael Sweet is the lead singer and and technically lead guitar player.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that would also surprise me.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um he's one of the few stars, if you will, um, that is really open, has an open conversation with his fans.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think he's been explaining his band for years.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I think yeah.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: You know, because people just didn't get it.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to play the chorus of this.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: I know one of these days somebody's gonna call us out.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, you've been playing music on your podcast.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, but we're telling you how much we love this music.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_08: It's an advertisement, right?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: What a voice though.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_08: It was great, man.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: So great.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: And he actually sang for Boston for a while.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_03: Did he?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember that?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_05: Brad Delp had Yeah, Brad Delp had passed.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: And they were they were doing some tribute shows and and whatnot, and he was one of the vocalists that came in to sing um Brad Delp's parts.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: And they kept him for a while.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: And he went out.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_08: Who else was gonna sing those parts?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_08: Parts.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh give me a give me another sniper song from the old days that you w that you want me to How about Soldiers Under Command?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't know.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't like that one.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let me see here.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Calling on You?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_08: I gotta find my striper.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, always there for you.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_03: That was a big one.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: That was a big uh It was but it wasn't one of my favorites.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um I just want to play a couple more older ones and then break into what they're doing now because the stuff that they're doing now from like geez, I think it was 2014.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_08: Holding on from Hell of the Devil is one of my favorite songs.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_08: Holding on.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do that one then.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: I mean they had the yellow and black and oh yeah, that's that's been their theme since the beginning.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: So which did w which was a little weird.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_08: Stand well, yeah.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_08: It's but it was a stick.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it is a it's a thing, man.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: Very melodic.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:52
  unknown: Everyone has been happy.
• 38:56
  unknown: The love will come and go.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_05: Do you put your feet inside so until you have a happy morning bow?
• 39:12
  unknown: The love will never go.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_05: Do you put your faith in Sunday that's good?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_08: What's this chorus, man?
• 39:30
  unknown: No one that's good.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: See, that's the thing.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: So that's the difference between Striper of Then and Striper of Now.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_08: Striper Now is just, they're still melodic, but they like turned it up to 11.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_08: And I think it also So in that album we listened to last week, yeah, I realized why I hadn't heard it.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_08: It was when they went, they tried to go secular.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it was.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_08: That's why I hadn't heard that album because I wasn't, I was like, ah, they're trying to go secular, they're trying to fit in.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_08: That's lame.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_08: But I went and downloaded it anyway.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a really good album, to be honest with you.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think in 2013 was I consider it kind of uh, I don't know.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a comeback, because they never went anywhere.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: But when they put out uh No More Hell to Pay, that song I remember you bringing it, or somebody bringing it to the radio station.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: And we played it on the speakers in the radio station, and it just sounded so thick.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_08: Dude, No More Hell to Pay is one of the greatest songs they have ever done, to be honest with you.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see, let me let me pull, let me pull that up because I think it's important to kind of um you know contrast between the striper of then so the striper of then was pop rock.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: Pop hard rock.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_03: Now it's just like big red.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_07: So that's just that big, like bomb basket chorus band.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then they had then they put out an album called uh Goddamn Devil.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_08: They did one before that.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Fallen.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_03: Fallen is Fallen came before that.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: I have that, but I wanted to play um Oh, you're you're thinking Goddamn Evil.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: Am I?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yes I am.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's what I'm thinking of.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I'm just gonna play the title cut from that because that's also from Fallen?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, from uh from Goddamn Evil.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, who sings like that now?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, the dude has just got an incredible voice.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: Even Ronald Halford can't hit those notes now.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_08: Ah, oh no.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: This isn't the one I was thinking of though.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, oh, maybe I'm thinking of taking to the cross.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Have you heard that one?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's the because of the I have it right here, dude.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: There was a um there was a video.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no, you're thinking of sorry.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_08: Sorry's the one you're thinking of.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_08: Are you sure?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_03: Video where there's they're sitting around in in church pews and they're Oh no, that's not the sorry one.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: No, see I'm thinking of taking it to the crossing.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_08: Sorry's a good song now.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see if this is it.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's no video for this one.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_08: Sorry, because that's just kind of just monster if I if you ask me.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe I will, maybe I will.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe you will, maybe you will.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_08: They kind of do that at the beginning of these new albums.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_08: I thought these like these really great.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_08: I like it.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's really cool, man.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_08: I'm telling you right now.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's this isn't the one I was thinking of.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: So let's talk just for a second.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: So Striper is Michael and Robert Sweet.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_03: Michael Sweet is the lead singer and lead guitar player.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_03: Robert Sweet's the drummer.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: And Oz Fox, who's been with him from the beginning, was on guitar, is on guitar.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_03: Tim Gaines.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_03: And Tim Gaines was the bass player.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um Tim Gaines is no longer with them.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_03: James Lomenzo was the bass player for a while from White Lion.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: And now they I can't remember the guy's name that they have with with them now.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I probably.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: Perry Richardson.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_03: Perry Richardson.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, and he's still with him.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_08: So um Oh, he used to play with Firehouse.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_08: That's why I know him.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_08: Perry Richardson.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_08: Yes! That's funny, man.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this isn't this sorry, isn't the one I was thinking of, but that's okay.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_08: Sorry, has got a great riff.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'll play I'll play a little bit of that.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just because.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, as you can tell, we really like this band.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_03: I love this band.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: We've been listening to them for a really long time since we were in junior high.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_03: We used to.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, this these guys ranked right up there with Dawkins.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_08: We would we would you know we would uh Dawkins and uh White Lion uh White Lion and White Snake and Oh yeah.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: We used we put the records on and we'd airband to them and I I do think they're they're look they're newer albums.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's my argument.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_08: That is a friggin' monster rift.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that's Metallica-like, you know what I mean?
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: And Michael Sweet records them now, these last albums, he and he produces them all.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: He writes all the songs, produces them, records them, sings them, plays all the lead guitar.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: Watching, I shouldn't say all the lead guitar because Oz Fox does play lead guitar.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but it was interesting to learn that most of the leads are Michael Sweet.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was surprised.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I think they're I think their their latest albums are better than they're so much better than the 80s ones.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_07: And I and I hate saying that because I love the 80s ones, but holy crap.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_03: So they have um Even The Devil Believes was the one that just came out not too long ago.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_03: Last in 2020, and I was reading Um Michael Sweet just finished the lead vocals on their new album.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_03: He's just so and it's gonna be mixed on April 1st.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna start mixing it.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_03: So they'll be coming out with another noise! Can't wait.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_03: So that's like I'm totally gonna get it.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_03: Almost like every two years.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um he actually gave a he actually gave a uh this is what I mean.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_03: He gave a title, song titles that were on the album.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I can find it here.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know, of the of the new album.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: And uh actually he's very uh very open with with the fans of his of his music.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, he's got a couple uh solo albums, and he did the sweet lynch thing.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_08: The sweet lynching with George Lynch, yeah.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right, which was really, really good.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they were a good album.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_08: They had two, two, two or three.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_08: I I think just two.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_08: I have the first one, I didn't get the second one.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean if you like that, I mean if you like heavy metal melodic metal, yeah, then you'll love striper.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_03: You can't help a lot of these guys.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_08: It's uh And they I don't know why I don't know why they're heavier now than they were.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_08: I don't understand.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's technology, maybe it's just Well if you listen, if you if you again, if you follow Michael Sweet, he he says, you know, they didn't grow up in the church.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_03: They were um saved, born again, I guess, if if if you will.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_03: They they grew up listening to Sabbath and Iron Maiden and all these species.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_08: Well, if you have their I have their the covering album.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_08: And they do Iron Maiden, they do Van Halen, they do Led Zeppelin, they do you know, these are all the songs that they grew up listening to.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_08: So they do covers of uh Kansas.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_08: They do their cover of uh Carry On Wayward Sun, awesome.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, they did uh we we talked about the fact that they did uh Jesus is just all right.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, they did that.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see if I can they did Sabbath's uh after forever.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_08: And that was really, really good.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_08: Um and of course last week we played uh Earth, Wind and Fire's uh Shining Star, which was really good.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: So um and uh what was I gonna say?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um so so anyway, they've and and Michael Sweet is huge is a huge Van Halen fan.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_03: Eddie Van Halen, especially especially, you know, when when he passed, um Michael Sweet put this big tribute out and and he he just moved.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_03: I know that because I with me.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_06: Jesus is just all right with me.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's just you can't help it, man.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's kick butt.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_08: They are just the ultimate church band.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_03: This ain't your daddy's church band.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: There's a there's a a um there's a new movie out.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_08: They're making a documentary.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_08: They did.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: I think they put it on put it out to Kickstarter and yeah, I'm not talking about that.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you're right.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_03: Stryper did or are making a documentary.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: They were very successful, had a very successful Kickstarter campaign.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um were looking for uh a certain amount of money to make it a Hollywood level documentary, and they got more.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, they're gonna be able to do that.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: The fans the fans you know came came out in full force, and and and so they raised more than enough money, so they're working on a documentary, but there's a um a mainstream uh movie, uh it's kind of like I guess it's a documentary, called Jesus Music.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it's got Amy Grant in it, Michael W.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: Smith, uh Toby Mack, all these Christian, uh, you know, contemporary Christian music artists.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I've seen that advertised.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_03: And Michael Sweet.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_08: I did not know that.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna have to watch that anymore.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Michael Sweet does.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_08: Because I wasn't sure what it was about, because it doesn't really give you any description of what it's about.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's basically about that that that uh Christian Christian music movement.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um and Michael Sweet will tell you that he's never fit into that.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: Or they've never fit into that Christian music movement.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_03: There they don't.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_08: I mean No, they I I get that.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_08: I totally get that.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, because when you especially the Christian music now that's come out.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's there's a lot of it that's really good.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's good, but my biggest complaint is beer candy.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my biggest complaint is.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_08: There's really no substance to it.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's just really catchy hooks.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_03: It all sounds the same.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_08: You know, which is typical of modern music.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_03: But also, I mean, like, and this is also typical, but say you you there's a there's a song that hits really big.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know, somebody somebody a Christian artist puts out this song that's really big and everybody loves it.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then every Christian artist has to cover it.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_03: And so you'll hear that song everywhere by twenty different people.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: Sure, watch it.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_03: But then again, that's the way it works.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's the way radio works in the in the music industry works.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just but I I haven't seen that movie yet, Jesus Music.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna have to watch it now.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm curious.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because you know I'm curious as to how Michael Sweet is portrayed in that in that movie.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, because he's yeah, he's absolutely right.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, they've never when you think Christian music, nobody thinks of striper.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_08: And they really should.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_03: Can you think of can you think of uh I mean there are rock bands out there, believe it or not, that are Christian that people's Christian that people don't know.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_03: Skillet is Christian.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_03: There's another one that uh Switchfoot.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Switchfoot was a Christian.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_08: I I found this guy on uh Facebook.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_08: I used to he has a band.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_08: They're Christian.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_08: There are four black guys and they play metal and they're Christian.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_08: Um what is their name?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_08: 20 Pound Sledge.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_08: Have they been around for a while?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_08: Not not that long, but they they've only had like one album.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_08: 20 Pound Sledge, because that sounds familiar.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_08: They're really good.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's really really they're really talented, and they're Christian.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_08: But I mean who paved the way for those guys?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Stryper.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: Stryper.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's you really can't deny that.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_08: Um and I I have a r I have the I have this story about it it has really nothing to do with Stryper, but it it but it does.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_08: At the same time.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_08: So when I was in high school, yeah, we went on a band trip.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_08: Our band teacher was from upstate New York.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_08: So he came up with this idea that we're gonna do this exchange program with him.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_08: So uh our high school band went out to their to his alma mater in upstate New York.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_08: It's near Syracuse.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_08: I can't remember, uh, what was the name?
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_08: Cortland, I think.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, we went to their school and we played a concert with their band.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_08: And then they came to our school and played a concert with our our band, you know, and we stayed at their houses and they put us up somebody.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_08: It was really fun.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_08: So anyway, we go out there.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_08: You know, we had one of those, you know, seer buses, you know, the the bath, you know, it wasn't a school bus.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_08: We were on a seer bus.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_08: And so we go out, and so one day we're out.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_08: Uh we went to the mall, and I was rolling into striper and I found yellow and black attack, their first album.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_08: So I got it.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_08: So I was staying with this family that had this daughter, had a huge crush on me.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_08: You know, one of those things?
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_08: So I bought this album, I was listening to it.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_08: So, you know, and I, you know, I was just going in through.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm we, you know, we go home and I'm listening to Yellow and Black Attack.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_08: She had taken my Yellow and Black Attack album on cassette and she recorded her voice on the end of it.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_08: She goes, Hi.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_08: I love you.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_07: And that was it.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_07: And I still have it somewhere.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_07: And I was like, oh my god.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, thank you.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_07: That was a great story.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_07: I appreciate that.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_08: But what a little story.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_08: So, you know, it's a little fun thing about stripers, though.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_03: So, uh, well, let's close out the um this uh wall of tunes before the battery's done at us again.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: Special edition.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_03: So that's uh that's it for uh booking ships for striper.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: Season five, episode 19, uh, which is also number 97.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Number 97, we got we're getting close, yeah.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: We're getting close to a hundred episodes, so it's gonna be fun.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 57:37
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• 57:58
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no, not me.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_08: I just have uh one dream over and over.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_08: I hold his head under the water till the last bubble goes.