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The Big Issues - Tuesday 6 June 2021 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Mix one four point nine dot com dot atu for
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  Speaker 1: all the latest news and information.
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  Speaker 2: Now three sixty with Katie Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is listening Mix one oh four point nine one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: It is Tuesday morning and in the studio with us
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  Speaker 3: this morning will proudly The Big Issues is proudly brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by the Kolano Community Association, an Aboriginal owned
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  Speaker 3: and operated, a community lead organization from the top End
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  Speaker 3: to Tenant Creek. And they're back at a social distance day.
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  Speaker 4: From this book.
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  Speaker 2: Someone is out of controus the lift.
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  Speaker 3: That's the left, Tom Toler and Damien Hale, and Damien
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  Speaker 3: Hale had his mask over his microphone and over his eyes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Tolly's Tolly's carrying a mask that looks as it's
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  Speaker 5: never been worn.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's no panic in the police come around the
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  Speaker 2: exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Just case.
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Chalk walks in and he goes on better this on.
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  Speaker 5: That's why it carries it. This is no pandemic. He's
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  Speaker 5: still very much in Switzerland.
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  Speaker 3: Last week on the on the lockdown, I know, Dave,
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  Speaker 3: you would not have been loving.
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  Speaker 4: I was not happy at all, not happy at all,
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  Speaker 4: you know, even my sheds more than five k from
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  Speaker 4: the house. I couldn't even go and pot around in
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  Speaker 4: the shed.
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  Speaker 2: Disgraceful, Well, I was.
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  Speaker 5: I feel for those people in that time. I feel
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  Speaker 5: for the people in the private sect. Obviously it's very
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  Speaker 5: tough on business, incredibly from my perspective, when you're going
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  Speaker 5: flat out and going out to communities and doing all
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  Speaker 5: that sort of stuff. And I actually enjoyed a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of downtime and spent a bit of time with
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  Speaker 5: my parents and some time at home.
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  Speaker 4: So I did enjoy that when you went out there
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  Speaker 4: to my parents, were you're still being paid in your job.
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  Speaker 5: I was able to work remotely, so can I can
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  Speaker 5: work from home? So, as I said, I did mention
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  Speaker 5: him as problem in my preamble with David. I did
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  Speaker 5: mention David in my preamble that I feel for businesses
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  Speaker 5: that are having to close during that period, but I feel.
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  Speaker 4: For people in poverty around the world. I read a
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  Speaker 4: story this morning that there's an extra nine million people
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  Speaker 4: just in South America alone that have been pushed into poverty.
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  Speaker 4: Poverty in their definition is living on less than two
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  Speaker 4: dollars a day, so you know, and that's because of
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  Speaker 4: the closed down of trade, airlines, tourism. Some of these
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  Speaker 4: countries eighty percent of their income comes from foreign tourists,
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  Speaker 4: but we don't seem to care about them.
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  Speaker 2: And we just need to catch up on vaccinations.
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  Speaker 3: So we've just got to make sure I've been vaccinated,
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  Speaker 3: You've been vaccine.
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  Speaker 2: He's scared of need vaccinated, yet he won't be allowed
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  Speaker 2: to go anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: I know nothing phases you will days.
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  Speaker 5: Dave's dying to get to South America so he can
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  Speaker 5: spend his money over there, but he won't get.
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  Speaker 2: On a plane.
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  Speaker 4: Happens, I'll be on a plane. And if that means
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  Speaker 4: getting a needle while I left it too, I can't
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  Speaker 4: see where I need to bunch some assential worker out
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  Speaker 4: of the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: You can't use. There's no lineup anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Day if anyone over sixteen can go and get it
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  Speaker 5: st using that you.
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  Speaker 4: Understand that less than twenty percent of the population have
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  Speaker 4: been vaccinated because Scomo's running it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give figures in the territory we.
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  Speaker 4: Are going to talk memory.
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  Speaker 3: We've got sixteen four percent of territory ins and now
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  Speaker 3: fully vaccinated, but we've had more than one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 3: doses now around the territory.
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  Speaker 4: You reckon. That would be enough to open up the borders,
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 5: Dave thinks it's the delicatessen where you jump the queue
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  Speaker 5: to ask for your bacon in front of the other
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  Speaker 5: lady that was standing there for ten minutes. You can
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  Speaker 5: go and get a vaccine. David, just do it.
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  Speaker 2: Be a leader on this. Put that mask on too.
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  Speaker 3: We've got him.
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  Speaker 2: We've got him.
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  Speaker 3: Now listen, let's move along, because there's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: happening around the place since I last caught up with
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  Speaker 3: you too, and and I want to take you to Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the Ikak report came out into the into the Turf Club,
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  Speaker 3: into the awarding of that twelve million dollar grant.
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  Speaker 1: Get up.
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  Speaker 3: Now the latest over well, it would have been Friday
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  Speaker 3: last week, I reckon or over the weekend. A lawyer
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  Speaker 3: for the Darwin Turf Club chairman, Brett Dixon, who's taken
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  Speaker 3: a leave of absence, has claimed in a letter to
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  Speaker 3: the Chief Minister Michael Gunner that his former chief of
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  Speaker 3: staff actively encouraged the application for this twelve million dollar
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  Speaker 3: Northern Territory Government grant for the construction of a grand
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  Speaker 3: stand because it was enthusiastically supported by mister Gunner personally.
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  Speaker 3: The letter also alleges one of the reasons why the
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  Speaker 3: grand Stand was championed by the former Chief of Staff
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  Speaker 3: was because it needed to be completed before the twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty Doh and Cup Carnival to ensure the Gunner government
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  Speaker 3: received kudos for that project in the lead up to
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty Northern Territory election. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 3: you two have had much of the much of an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to go through that report.
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  Speaker 4: Who took the submission into cabinet?
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  Speaker 3: Yet?
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  Speaker 2: Don't know? Actually, good there's.
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  Speaker 4: Alf Leonarde couldn't take it into cabinet, and I have
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  Speaker 4: asked her, you know what, minister took it into cabinet?
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  Speaker 4: Good question, I have asked, I think that's cabinet.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's right, that's right, And so I have asked
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  Speaker 3: whether they need to just maybe, you know, release these
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  Speaker 3: these documents, the cabinet documents. You understand how that works
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  Speaker 3: better than I do, Dave in terms of that decision
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  Speaker 3: making process. But whether they do need to just clear
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  Speaker 3: the air here and let people know exactly how and
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  Speaker 3: why that decision was made.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. That they have to go releasing cabinet documents.
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  Speaker 4: That would I don't know what sort of a precedent
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  Speaker 4: that would create, but you can certainly find out who
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  Speaker 4: marched it into cabinet and start questioning them. If Helth
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  Speaker 4: Leonardi wrote it, you know, we ought to know at
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  Speaker 4: least who took it into cabinet. And you know, one
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  Speaker 4: might suspect it was the Chief Minister, if elf Leanardi
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  Speaker 4: wrote it, but you know, maybe it wasn't. Maybe it
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  Speaker 4: might have been the Sports Minister at the time, or
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  Speaker 4: the racing you know, who knows. But it's an interesting
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  Speaker 4: show this and it's an interesting response by Brett Dixon's lawyer,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, I think the whole house of cards
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  Speaker 4: is going to come tumbling down. They're all at each
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  Speaker 4: other's straights now, and I think there's a long way
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  Speaker 4: to run in this story. Once they start investigating some
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  Speaker 4: of the contracts that were let and all of these
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  Speaker 4: sorts of things, you know, there'll be more to come out.
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  Speaker 4: I was a bit stunned last week, I got to say,
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  Speaker 4: when all of those industry associations came out supporting the project, saying, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: what a wonderful project. Just look at it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's a wonderful development. It's been great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I look at.
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  Speaker 4: Missing Beach in in far North Queensland in the same
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  Speaker 4: way you go, oh, well, you know, let's just forget
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  Speaker 4: that Christopher Skase did it with a whole lot of
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  Speaker 4: Pilford funds and you know, you know, good, I'm scarcy
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  Speaker 4: for building it. You know, you know, let's just forget
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  Speaker 4: his involvement. And it's sort of hard to fathom that
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  Speaker 4: industry associations could come out and just take that sort
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  Speaker 4: of nonchalant view. See, it's a wonderful building. Yeah, goodness me.
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  Speaker 3: For me right from the get go, and we have,
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  Speaker 3: honestly we have. You know, we've had so many people
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  Speaker 3: on the show on this topic over the years. But
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  Speaker 3: for me, right from the get go, the thing that
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  Speaker 3: just didn't sit right with me was the day that
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  Speaker 3: it was announced, ll the night that it was announced.
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  Speaker 3: That week we'd had a code yellow at the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: There wasn't enough beds at the hospital. Now the minister
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  Speaker 3: was it pains to say to me throughout that week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it's different buckets of funding. But I'm like, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't pass the pub test from a territorian's
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  Speaker 3: perspective that it's money that's being spent on something that
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  Speaker 3: they don't want.
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  Speaker 4: I've been aware of a stench coming out of racing
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  Speaker 4: in the territory for a long time. When I was treasurer,
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to do an audit on the TRNT. You
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  Speaker 4: might recall that the same journalists now they're sort of
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  Speaker 4: screaming for more information. At the time was saying that
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  Speaker 4: where I was wrong, I shouldn't be. You know, what
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  Speaker 4: right has the government got to ask private organizations, you know,
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  Speaker 4: auditing their books and all of this sort of nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: And people accuse me of being anti racing and anti
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  Speaker 4: the Thoroughbred. And most notably is the journalist out there
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  Speaker 4: at the NT Independent now who thinks he's the greatest
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  Speaker 4: expert on all of this. At the time, he didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to know anything about it. All he was interested
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  Speaker 4: in was attacking me. Here we are five six years,
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  Speaker 4: seven years later, and all of a sudden we see
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  Speaker 4: another scandal coming out, and you know, you have a
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  Speaker 4: look at that race course and you go, well, what
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  Speaker 4: building is there that Brett Dixon didn't build? You know, what,
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  Speaker 4: how is it possible? But Bett three six five is
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  Speaker 4: sitting out there in the Behrima Industry Park. You know,
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  Speaker 4: how is it possible that we now have a chairman
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  Speaker 4: of thoroughbred racing and tea that lives in the in
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  Speaker 4: Adelaide when the position was always there for a Territorian.
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  Speaker 4: Why haven't you know, the TCA and others who were
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  Speaker 4: banging on about by local why haven't they raised this?
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  Speaker 4: You know, for the past five or six years, the
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  Speaker 4: fellow's been living in Adelaide. He's not even a Territorian anymore,
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  Speaker 4: and yet he's still the chairman of Thoroughbred raising it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's questions everywhere. Michael Garner has spent a
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  Speaker 4: whole lot of time sort of deflecting those sort of questions.
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  Speaker 4: But now there's this sort of pushback I think coming
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  Speaker 4: from Brett Dixon's side after Michael's alf Lenardi in.
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  Speaker 3: The mud though as well. Hayley Lote, do you think
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  Speaker 3: that I mean, do you think that this I don't
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  Speaker 3: think this issue is going to go away in a hurry.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to continue to bubble along for
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  Speaker 3: a while and it's you know, it is going to
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  Speaker 3: be really interesting to see where it all lands.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then at the time.
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  Speaker 5: I remember what you just said walking that had happened
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  Speaker 5: with in regards to the hospital. And I was always
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  Speaker 5: against giving twelve million dollars to the race course only
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  Speaker 5: simply because I just thought there was other things that
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  Speaker 5: more priorities that the government should spend taxpayers money on.
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  Speaker 5: There's no doubt that it is a wonderful facility. And
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  Speaker 5: in three weeks time, when all the visitors come up
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  Speaker 5: and I'll say, right from silks through to the finish line,
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  Speaker 5: there's all this has been done. And for a small
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  Speaker 5: place like Darwin, it's, you know, a leading facility in
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  Speaker 5: a small town like we have like a lot of
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  Speaker 5: our sporting stuff, but with this stuff that you know,
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  Speaker 5: for me, it's like what's the next step from an
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  Speaker 5: IKAQ because you know, where does this report go? Because
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  Speaker 5: if there was unlawful behavior, well surely it should be
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  Speaker 5: now with the public prosecutor, rather than just being kicked
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  Speaker 5: around within the media, where two individuals in our Leonardi
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  Speaker 5: and Brett Dixon's names have been trash basically. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 5: people are drawing opinions on these two guys, and at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day, people have to understand ol
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  Speaker 5: F Leonardi's job is a political job. No different to
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  Speaker 5: what Donny don Fuller used to do, used to do
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  Speaker 5: for the c.
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  Speaker 4: Orpull ever wrote a submission for anybody.
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  Speaker 5: Cole Fuller would have encouraged people to put their name
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  Speaker 5: forward to do things. And one thing that Brett Dixon
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  Speaker 5: has proven over many years as the chair he will
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  Speaker 5: get things done. So it's not I don't think it's
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  Speaker 5: against the realms of possibility that a political party like
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  Speaker 5: olf OL's an operator. Sure they want to do what's
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  Speaker 5: best for the territory, absolutely, but they also want to
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  Speaker 5: stay in government. That's what I pray us do and
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  Speaker 5: so it's not It's not something that I find surprising
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  Speaker 5: that you would have the government of the day engaging
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  Speaker 5: with people that they know can get results.
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  Speaker 3: It is surprising them. For the Chief Minister to say
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't know that. I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a separate issue, Okadie. That's a separate issue.
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  Speaker 5: If the Chief Minister has said that he's had nothing
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  Speaker 5: to do with it, I'd take that on face vailue.
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  Speaker 5: If it's proven otherwise, well he'll have to deal with
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  Speaker 5: that himself. But the point I'm making is if people
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  Speaker 5: don't like this part of politics. If they look at
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  Speaker 5: it as a dirty side of politics, if you like,
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  Speaker 5: turn your radio off now, because I can genuinely tell
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  Speaker 5: you that both sides are politics. Still, we've seen at
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  Speaker 5: the federal level with the sports ruts, we've seen it
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  Speaker 5: with the community benefits scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly do because it.
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  Speaker 3: Is relevant to the fact that it's actually, you know, promises,
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  Speaker 3: which isn't appropriate federal.
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  Speaker 4: Election commitments. Well, an election commits, an election commits happen.
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  Speaker 5: You don't do something and it's happened that if it's
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  Speaker 5: proven that it's unlawful wolfing. The point I'm making is
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  Speaker 5: handed to the police, stop slandering these guys through an
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  Speaker 5: IKAC report, handed to the public prosecutor, and let him
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  Speaker 5: her decide whether or not there's an unlawful behavior as occurtain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and well, you know, I guess we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to wait and see where that does. All.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if you have a look at horse racing,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people think horse racing is a big
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  Speaker 4: boon for the territory that it makes makes a government
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money. Gambling makes a government a lot
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  Speaker 4: of money, and you know it's good for taxpayers. People
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  Speaker 4: need to understand the taxpayers spend fourteen million dollars a
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  Speaker 4: year on thoroughbred racing in the Northern Territory. That's more
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  Speaker 4: than the entire Department of Fisheries.
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  Speaker 2: First time didn't kill it.
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  Speaker 4: That's more than the entire Department of Fisheries budget. They're
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  Speaker 4: not a giver when it comes to taxes. They're actually
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  Speaker 4: a big receiver of government tax and I just think
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  Speaker 4: fourteen I think the amount of money that they founded
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  Speaker 4: annually stinks. There's something wrong with it. There's something wrong
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  Speaker 4: with all of these projects that have taken place in
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  Speaker 4: this empire that's been built. I mean, the place is
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  Speaker 4: not turned a dollar, requires fourteen million dollars of government
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  Speaker 4: money every year to operate.
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  Speaker 2: Told of other things that require money as well.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's a whole lot of things that operate. That's seen.
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  Speaker 4: All of those gaming companies out there at the racetrack
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  Speaker 4: are all making money, and they all pay taxes. They're
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  Speaker 4: not they're not takers from the territory. They're givers to
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  Speaker 4: the territory. Horse racing, on the other hand, is a
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  Speaker 4: major drain on the territory budget.
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  Speaker 5: Coffers, what about the wildlife park that we've spoken about before,
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  Speaker 5: like there.
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  Speaker 2: Is a consistency here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I should have been sold off years ago. Ever
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  Speaker 4: since you've had competition in that area. You know, when
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  Speaker 4: it was built, there was nothing around. But since it's
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  Speaker 4: been built, you've got Graham Webs, Crocodileer's Park, You've got
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  Speaker 4: Krocosaurus in town. It's now a competitor to those businesses
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  Speaker 4: and it's taking I don't know what it's taking now,
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  Speaker 4: but it's well over ten million dollars a year of
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  Speaker 4: taxpayers money. It should have been reviewed years ago and
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  Speaker 4: probably closed down or privatized.
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  Speaker 1: Dave for you, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean what you're saying though with the turf like with
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  Speaker 3: the turf Club, is that that not only should they
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  Speaker 3: have to pay that money back, but as in the
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  Speaker 3: twelve million dollars for the grand stand, that's what the
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  Speaker 3: government's saying they need to do. But realistically they are
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  Speaker 3: going to pay that getting much they do.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's dead, no, of course not. They should be
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  Speaker 4: contributing to the territory. People think that gambling is good
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  Speaker 4: for the for the books, for government. You know that
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  Speaker 4: the government is cleaning up on taxes. Well, in the
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  Speaker 4: case of horse racing in the Northern Territory. That is
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  Speaker 4: not the case.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have to take.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to have to take a short break
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  Speaker 3: three sixty.
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  Speaker 1: With Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four point nine
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  Speaker 1: thanks to Joyce Main Darwin.
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  Speaker 3: The big fellas are in the studio for the big issues,
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  Speaker 3: Damien Hale and Dave Tollner.
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  Speaker 5: Phone's been taken off Dave, So if there's anyone out
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  Speaker 5: there that knows how to work an iPhone's free. It's
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  Speaker 5: a few generations ago, but back when dinosaurs had mobile phones.
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  Speaker 2: He's just giving rolls.
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  Speaker 5: Had to take it off, and we're trying to work
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  Speaker 5: out how to turn the alarm off. So if somebody
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  Speaker 5: out there that's well briefed in iPhone streets.
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  Speaker 2: We do like stupid last to eleven every day? What
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  Speaker 2: is that, Dave, bounce out of bed.
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  Speaker 4: I never worked out how to get the sound off,
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  Speaker 4: keeps ringing all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I much preferred you when you had that.
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  Speaker 4: It happens when I'm in here. Your other than that,
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  Speaker 4: No one wants to name me.
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  Speaker 2: Dixon's just as well. No corporate tickets for day this year.
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  Speaker 3: He's not getting That's the best place to be, in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, is out in the outer with the plebs.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I enjoy my.
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  Speaker 3: Time the most. And I've got to say that several
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  Speaker 3: years ago, when that announcement was made of the twelve
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  Speaker 3: million dollar Grandstad, I decided that year that I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: accept any invitations that I received from the Darwin Turf
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Club to attend to many of their events because I think,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you know, really I didn't.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Agree with it. And yeah, for me there for quite
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: a lot quite.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Some time well in saying that, you know, there are
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: a lot of good people still in that industry, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: and you know, I think that at the end of.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: The industry, it's a wonderful industry. It's a shame that
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: it's been sort of tird this way by people who
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: really seem to be more into it for themselves rather
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: than the industry as a whole.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Hey, let's move along, because there's a couple other things
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about. Hey, I want to talk
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: to you all about last time you were in here,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: we were discussing who was going to get pre selected,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: who was going to get the Senate spot for the COLP,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: who was going to be running in the in the
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: federal election from both sides of defense. We knew who
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: label was going to be running, but we know that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the Central Council meeting happened for the COLP. Well, basically
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: the weekend that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: That lockdown was called, it all happened. It all happened.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Just centerprise is the person who's going to be in
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that Senate sposh.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: What was your takeout from all of that?
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Look, I got to say I thought the COLP did
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: a very good job in the way they handled the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: whole process. The fact that the matter is everybody's up
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: for Nobody has a certainty in politics. You'll face pre
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: selection at one stage or rather or you face the
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: electric one way or the other. But your job is
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: never certain. And I have to say I've been particularly
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: impressed with see McMahon. She's taken a very mature approach
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: to the whole thing. It's never easy to lose pre selection,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: but she's sort of done the well. She's played a
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: good hand. I think since that it'd have to be
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: hard news. Congratulations to the Center, but the one I'm well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of races, the most interesting obviously Solomon
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and Lingiari. Lingiari is going to be huge Damian Ryan,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the mayor of Ella Springs, former president of the Local
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Government Association, is the COLP candidate, and and in scrim
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Jaw is the Labor.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Candidate, former Deputy Chief Minister, former.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Deputy Chief Minister Currency of the Northern Land Council. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: mean it really sets up an epic, epic battle. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: think in Lingiari Warren Snaden the course has been there
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: for every very impossible to defeat Warren. You've got to
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: give him credit for that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Your thoughts on it, Tyl, because we are running out
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: of time.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I don't usually get too wrapped up in the COLP
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: political pre selection battles, but yeah, obviously it's a good
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: thing for just enter Price guaranteed have been in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Senate and if you know, if Marion was to win,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: we'd have three Aboriginal women represent ending us in Melandering.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: McCarthy the other one. So three Aboriginal women in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: four seats.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And I couldn't get more holarized views. But I have
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: to say, amongst those Aboriginal women, is.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: It gosling like Teena McFarland. You know, they're a proud
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: territory family. But I think Luke Goslin's done a great
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: job as a member for Solomon and has continued, that's
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: And he doesn't make headlines, you know.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: He certainly doesn't make headlines like a couple of the
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: former members for Solomon used to make a few headlights.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I just actually had to work out where if he's there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I want to get WI looks out about and that's
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: very disingenuous.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He is out and about will take the fight up.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I do want to take you both.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: The NRL they find Saint George Llawara players three hundred
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and five thousand dollars an issue match suspensions for breaching
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: COVID nineteen state home orders after attending and gathering at
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: a home on the Wakkend. The league says the Dragons
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: prop Paul Vaughan invited twelve teammates to his home on Saturday.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: All thirteen players were slapped with sanctions by the NRL,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: as well as fines of a grand each by New
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: South Wales Police for that breached breach. Apparently, it's alleged
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: a number of players hid or fled the residents when
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the New South Wales police attended the home. One of
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: them I think was hiding under the bed.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: The curtain twitches are at it again.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: The curtain twitches.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: People sitting there looking through their curtains, dabbing off, going
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: on the piece in the neighbor's house.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: A few of them have.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Been a few of them have been hiding on the
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: weekends too. The Dragon's voice, and I'd be concentrating a
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: little bit more on the defensive work and the edge
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: plays than worrying about getting on the grob at someone's house.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: A real coach, I've got to say, I look at that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And I think you're jeopardizing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Like you get if any of those guys were to
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: get COVID nineteen and they give it to their staff,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: whatever happens, As we saw last year, the whole industry
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: can be shut down, so all the players, all the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: people that rely on nr L and what we saw
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: the vulnerability of Australian sport last year.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It's all hand and mouth.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: The AFL were lucky that they had the stadium that
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: they could mortgage to give money to the clubs in Melbourne.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Like these guys are just idiots and have a good time.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: To stick to what you're doing, because your whole industry
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: relies on you to do the right thing. And as
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I said, they go hiding on Saturdays, the dragons and
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: they go hiding on Saturday nights as well.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Football players aren't there to make government brain surgeons, to
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: hit it up as hard as they can and make.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Come from a family football football the coach coach.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Of time.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Tell you what is bloody scary.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: But you also look at this way to Ktie that
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: the warriors are here living in a stretch away from
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: like they've got their immediate family, but they're making sacrifices.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: These guys can't even just stick to the program, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: and it just it beggars belief. I just think you, Yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you're in a fool's paradise. You're playing an elite sport.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You're getting paid for six hundred k a year.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You just follow the rules, all right. We're gonna have
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to leave it there. Dave Tolder, Damien Hall, always great
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: to have you both in the studios.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Talk to you soon.
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