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- 0:36Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:42I remain, as always, your 100% impartial, completely unbiased and almost recovered host, Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
- 0:52Joining me on the panel this week as usual is GT.
- 0:56Hey everyone, welcome back.
- 0:57It's Tuesday.
- 0:58I get to wear red this week.
- 0:59I'm the happy guy.
- 1:00What did I say?
- 1:01Well earned.
- 1:03And MJ.
- 1:05hey everyone, where I am we have a trifact of rain, mosquitoes and smoke, so it is perfect to sit inside and watch football.
- 1:13Nice.
- 1:14yeah.
- 1:14And luckily there's no game there this weekend 'cause that they're coming out to Kelowna.
- 1:21I thought maybe I'd jump in just a little bit about that Apple Bowl experience since uh I was there and when I said almost recovered, you'd be forgiven for thinking I'm talking
- 1:32about the riders loss, but no.
- 1:33I'm I've been
- 1:34fairly diligent about getting out and doing hiking with both the knees replaced now and whatnot and I thought I was in reasonable shape.
- 1:42A full day of hiking from the parking t to the stadium on my feet a big chunk of the day and back, I it just it destroyed me.
- 1:51I got home and sat back in the recliner and my quads were literally spasming.
- 1:56So
- 1:56this this week will be better.
- 1:58But I thought I'd just real quick maybe run through for the folks what what it was like there, because it was a sort of a new experience.
- 2:05I'm gonna do something we used to do back in business where we looked at things we said from the good, the bad, and the interesting with it.
- 2:12And there was bits of both.
- 2:13So probably the worst part of it, the only two things that took away from my experience at all was the fact the PA was
- 2:22was not capable of overcoming the crowd noise.
- 2:26It's built for a small stadium, so I hope they they put a better PA in because I had to literally watch the game on T V the next day to figure out what a a bunch of the penalties
- 2:35were and whatnot.
- 2:35Had no idea.
- 2:36And then the other one which I know they won't be able to fix by this weekend is the seating.
- 2:42uh I'm told they brought in seating from the F one events.
- 2:45They rented that out.
- 2:46And I have a feeling
- 2:48F one fans must be a little bit slimmer than football fans.
- 2:52Cause they literally when you looked at the space they had designated on the seats, it was about maybe fifteen, sixteen inches per seat.
- 3:00And so I was on the end of one row.
- 3:03I wasn't alone in this.
- 3:04I was on the end of one row and there was maybe three inches of seat left.
- 3:08I just sat on the stairs.
- 3:10And they they came in came and told me you can't do that and I pointed at my seat and said, There's what I've paid for.
- 3:15What are we gonna so they walked away.
- 3:17But I wasn't the only one.
- 3:18There were a lot of people talking about the fact that the better part of their posterior was hanging off the end if you were on the on the outside seats.
- 3:28But those were really the only two things that that were to me anyway, a significant sort or enough to bother me about the game.
- 3:35They had other things with it.
- 3:37The uh the food service was really slow and I think what it was was they just they didn't have enough cooking surface there.
- 3:45It seemed like they couldn't keep up with it.
- 3:46I didn't get a chance.
- 3:48Th mu this was my bad.
- 3:50I thought, you know, I'll know what we know what we're doing.
- 3:53It was me and my two sons that went and saw this one.
- 3:55So we headed in, we thought in lots of time and the traffic was much worse than we expected and everything else.
- 4:01So by the time I got there, I had the choice of either lining up and getting merchandise and going to the food trucks and everything or watching a football game.
- 4:09So we'll do better on that this week.
- 4:11We're going gonna go in a lot earlier.
- 4:12But yeah, the
- 4:14The food service was slow because or at least the at the uh the main food tents, and apparently they ran out of beer and other stuff about halftime.
- 4:23So people were complaining about that.
- 4:25But I tell ya, it was the game was yeah, okay, but the atmosphere was great.
- 4:30The crowd just just fantastic people.
- 4:33You know, ended up talking to dozens and dozens of people there, everybody in a good mood, everybody enjoying themselves.
- 4:40my son made the comment, they keep telling us how divided this country is, but you go to an event like this and everybody's just happy and and having a good time.
- 4:48The other thing we got basically pretty damn good weather.
- 4:50They if they were talking about it raining all day.
- 4:53We got a couple of sprinkles off and on through the game, but that was about it.
- 4:56And then the last bit, which is what I find the interesting part, is there's been
- 5:02I don't know if it's showing up.
- 5:03I've s seen a little bit of it on Blue Sky and some of the other social media, but Reddit especially, there's a lot of people saying, Why doesn't Kelowna have a team?
- 5:12Why aren't they one of the cities that they're talking about with Because it w works so well.
- 5:17And there's e and I I think that there might be a market there.
- 5:21It's questionable.
- 5:21there's not a lot of market for the junior in high school here, but there's an a enough
- 5:27CFL fans that have moved here from other areas, it might work.
- 5:31And then there's also a lot of people saying, Well, why don't they just go up and do three games in Kelowna every year out of their schedule?
- 5:36And I and I don't think that would work either.
- 5:38But I'm interesting to I'm guessing you guys saw the game on TV and some of the hype.
- 5:43What was your external impression?
- 5:45Um, well it looked terrific.
- 5:47It looked like the stadium was was set up really nicely.
- 5:50It looks like they did a good job in making it work with eighteen thousand portable seats, which is pretty impressive.
- 5:56it was kind of cute to see the little booth that they normally have, the little white area that said, you know, the Okanagan sun or something on the back of it, and that was what
- 6:05that's what the real Stands looked like.
- 6:06Uh and and and so it it was r I thought it was really well done.
- 6:11I was pretty amazed.
- 6:13By the commentary of the broadcasters, particularly Rod Smith, kind of blew me away.
- 6:19It sounded like he'd never been to Kelowna.
- 6:21Sounded like he'd never been to the interior.
- 6:24And I was like Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 6:27Well, that's all that's a different thing.
- 6:29That's Glenn Souter being Glenn Souter.
- 6:31but but I was shocked.
- 6:33this is not not disrespectful, but maybe I'm more traveled than most people.
- 6:38But I'm shocked at how many people don't seem to know our country and don't seem to know the geography of our country and don't seem to know that Kelowna is in the middle of a
- 6:48beautiful place.
- 6:49Like how can you not know that?
- 6:51Like that's to me that's as obvious as saying Calgary's next to Banff, as Toronto is by Niagara Falls.
- 6:58It's like it's like obvious.
- 7:00I can't and yet these very well known, very well educated, very
- 7:06High profile people on the broadcast just seem to have never considered this part of the country as a place to go, a thing to do.
- 7:16I'm just like, I'm constantly amazed at how many people in our country don't travel our country and get to see the extent of how beautiful this country is and how many places
- 7:27there are to go and revel in how great this country is.
- 7:31It just constantly amazes me.
- 7:33Well, it's cheaper to go to Mexico than it is for me to go to Ontario.
- 7:38Like, so I mean, it is hard, it is hard.
- 7:42And those guys probably travel, like they're constantly traveling.
- 7:46The probably the last thing they want to do once the CFL season's over is travel to more like go to more Canadian airports.
- 7:51They're just probably like, I'm out.
- 7:53But it was like the ultimate Kelowna hype though, because it was like he w they were just genuinely so excited to be there.
- 8:01Yes.
- 8:02I yeah, and it lo as I said, it looked terrific.
- 8:04obviously the Lions and the League did a great job of setting it up.
- 8:08hopefully the weather holds again this weekend for another beautiful day, 'cause that certainly helped.
- 8:12If it had it been pouring rain, it might not have looked so great.
- 8:15But but the fact that it was a beautiful day certainly helped.
- 8:18So
- 8:18I was expecting worse camera angles it looked it was seamless.
- 8:22It looked perfect.
- 8:23It was great and and it was kind of funny.
- 8:25This is my own thing.
- 8:26Every once in a while I could see this dark in the back and I'm like, ooh, is it clouding up?
- 8:31Looks like it's clouding up.
- 8:32Is it gonna start raining in Kelowna?
- 8:34And then they pan back, no, it's just a mountain.
- 8:38I'm like, oh no, I I've been on the prairies too long.
- 8:41Ha ha ha.
- 8:43Yes.
- 8:44I I was Well, when I when I watched chunks of it the next day on TV to figure out, like I said, the parts I missed from the announcer.
- 8:56I was really quite impressed with the drone shots they had for some of their coming in and out of commercials and that.
- 9:02They did a a good job of make it this is a beautiful area, I'll say that, but they made it look about as good as you can.
- 9:08Yeah, I I I want Yeah.
- 9:11n information getting out there.
- 9:12I also I thought they did a better job of presenting the game than they do for most games.
- 9:18Like it was like the league itself and the broadcast itself did a tr as you say with that drone and stuff.
- 9:24They don't do that in Regina.
- 9:26They don't do that in in Toronto and show the beautiful skyline behind the city with all the lights on in an evening game.
- 9:32They don't do any of that stuff.
- 9:34the in you know, they show a little bit in Montreal with the mountain there, but that's about it.
- 9:39they did a great job.
- 9:40It really was it it was but well done.
- 9:42Uh full credit to the league and the broadcaster for making it look terrific.
- 9:46And the field looked great in great shape.
- 9:49Yeah.
- 9:50well, I don't usually like the Straight Fire segment, but what I liked about Straight Fire that game was that they had the kids that were on the Straight Fire there with them and
- 9:59that was what a moment for those kids.
- 10:02That was amazing.
- 10:03I loved it.
- 10:05Yeah.
- 10:05That was that was very nice.
- 10:07And I gotta say, full credit to TSN for the amount they're spending on sending the panel out to these games this year.
- 10:14You know, it used to be Labor Day and maybe if there was some other big event or something.
- 10:19They've been on the road a lot so far this year.
- 10:22Almost every week it feels like.
- 10:23Stampede Bowl actually a lot more seriously than I thought they were going to last year.
- 10:28I thought they were gonna be like whatever and treat it, but no, they did a big deal.
- 10:31And this was kind of felt like how they're doing Kelowna is how they did Stampede Bowl last year.
- 10:36And I'm just wondering if maybe this week it'll be toned down quite a bit more for the next Kelowna game.
- 10:43But it showcased really well.
- 10:44It showcased so well.
- 10:47a a great job.
- 10:48know what, when there's a CFL team there, you won't have to worry about the seats because there'll be permanent seating there.
- 10:52Yeah, it'd be fine.
- 10:55Well, not in my lifetime, I don't think, but
- 10:58Yeah, no, feed that fire, keep it going, but it ain't ever gonna happen.
- 11:01Like just come on.
- 11:04Some people.
- 11:06Yeah, yeah.
- 11:10But w we can talk more about the actual game itself when we get there.
- 11:14let's move on.
- 11:15A couple other quick things.
- 11:16Uh some comments.
- 11:18we had a few comments this week in a few different places on uh YouTube and social media and whatnot.
- 11:24A few of them about uh our title last week being not safe for work.
- 11:28And I knew as soon as MJ said the line that it had to be the title.
- 11:34Yes.
- 11:35But we also had and I had to do this one just to give myself a pat on the back.
- 11:39It's it's kinda surprising my head still fits in this screen 'cause we had one on um actually the Stampeders forum on Reddit.
- 11:47I'm terrible with names and usernames I'm gonna go with Miserlu Pagnini, who said about uh my old man plays weekly fantasy show.
- 11:57Said old man's voice alone could probably carry a whole show about a plant growing.
- 12:02So this is just icing on the cake.
- 12:03Ha ha ha ha.
- 12:06don't be d don't be feeding the ego like that.
- 12:08It's dangerous.
- 12:09We also had uh had nobody guessed any of our lyrical eloquence last week.
- 12:15I thought I I saw someone guess and guess correctly after.
- 12:18Absolutely.
- 12:20Yes they do.
- 12:21Was that on the YouTube?
- 12:23Let me pop over there and see so let me just see if I've missed something here with that.
- 12:28Um
- 12:29got one but he obviously doesn't have social media.
- 12:32So why while see if I can see any comments.
- 12:38Well, I had two last week and because MJ has been so stressed about this segment and she admitted it last week, I threw her a complete softball and wondered if and she indicated
- 12:52she got it and hit it out of the park, but she never said she did.
- 12:56So she still hasn't come through with her if she got it right or not.
- 13:00So the question is, what song did you hear?
- 13:03What lyric did you hear?
- 13:04some old friends from down in T O but old Queen Lizzie send it back home They look so sad at the end of the night I wanna yes Ti cats are hummin our kells
- 13:19Yes.
- 13:19Okay.
- 13:20Good.
- 13:20Well I I as I said, it was a pretty much a softball.
- 13:23If you hadn't a got that you w if you hadn't have got that, yeah, that would have been it.
- 13:28You would have been, you know, it would have been old man and me on the show.
- 13:31That's it.
- 13:32as a sidebar, we took we took our son to an Arkels concert.
- 13:35It's the first time to see the R Kels, he's first time I've seen him.
- 13:38And afterwards he's like, they didn't play my favorite song.
- 13:40And I was like, what what's your favorite R Kell song?
- 13:42He's Ti cats are humming.
- 13:44And I was like, Well, the the Ti cats own that song.
- 13:47They don't think they're allowed to sing it at their concert.
- 13:51That's true.
- 13:52but because I that was a softball gist for you, I did include something.
- 13:57I did I'm just being mean, you know that, right?
- 13:59The
- 14:00Hey, if you wanna like if you wanna put our our Kells and Ty Cats lyrics in, that is fine by me.
- 14:07I did i I did include another one and uh I believe old man, there was a comment that got it right.
- 14:12right, I found it.
- 14:13At again, Atum A T O Kangle Ten commented GT saying and without me.
- 14:21Ooh.
- 14:22Correct.
- 14:23I did.
- 14:23sounds like GT watching the Stamp or also GT watching the Stampeders game sounds like you both had Dickinson experiences.
- 14:30Yeah, both decades and experiences, yes.
- 14:32Yeah.
- 14:32poor boy.
- 14:33Yes.
- 14:34yes, and also he says it was at the uh at the Elks game with you, MJ.
- 14:38And and I'm having trouble seeing the the full comments, something else after that.
- 14:43But Okay, anyway, so yeah, so Adam Gangle, congratulations.
- 14:48He got that right, did he A G T.
- 14:50Yes he did.
- 14:51That that was a little you know, not out of the ordinary, but a little I thought a little tougher, so we'll see how this week's goes.
- 14:57Yeah.
- 14:58Okay, and and mine did not get any.
- 15:01I I went with Cheryl Crow.
- 15:03I I was m mean to GT and he said something nice to me and I used it as a uh as a lead in to say, you don't bring me anything but down, which is, of course, from Cheryl Crow,
- 15:14anything but down.
- 15:15So we didn't get it and I apologize, GT.
- 15:18I shouldn't take advantage of you like that 'cause ooh, you're my best friend.
- 15:22Yeah, yeah, okay.
- 15:24I yeah, I'll believe that when I see it, as I said.
- 15:30Okay.
- 15:32Anything else with uh around those that we need to talk about.
- 15:35You didn't slip any in again, MJ?
- 15:37Oh.
- 15:40okay, you do that.
- 15:40Okay, yes.
- 15:41the name It's also in the song.
- 15:46are gonna say, Ti Cats are humming that's it, that's me, I'm done.
- 15:48uh
- 15:50Makes for easier guessing every week.
- 15:54No.
- 15:55Uh yes.
- 15:57we had some really nice comments this week um on Instagram from regarding like the Edmonton stuff, Edmonton referees and the Prairie Blizzard uniforms were quite the little
- 16:09talking point, and then our our segment about Jake Mayer.
- 16:14We also had a couple of negative comments about the when we were talking about the the whole stuff around the the elk's name and the residential school issues and that that were
- 16:25coming came out from people who were obviously of the bent that they they have no time for social issues or yeah.
- 16:35Yeah.
- 16:35It's
- 16:37I just don't.
- 16:38I I don't I don't even respond to those 'cause that's not what we're here about.
- 16:42If you're if you're gonna take that as the one takeaway from the show, I'm sorry.
- 16:46But no, I'm glad.
- 16:47Thank you everybody else who has come in.
- 16:49uh I only want to quick rebuttal because I only wanna say to our listeners, all opinions are valued.
- 16:56It doesn't mean we agree with your opinion.
- 16:58We are it it no no, it depend I don't know I do not know what the comment was.
- 17:06Okay, so then that's not yeah, that's just that's just yeah, that's not valid.
- 17:11No, that's not that's not b it's not it's it's just wrong.
- 17:15Sorry, that's just wrong.
- 17:16So
- 17:17Yeah, I agree with you there.
- 17:18But all opinions are valued.
- 17:20No, you wanna argue football with us, great, but there's certain things that are not defensible.
- 17:26there was one that was denialism, yeah, that MJ's right on, and the other one was just all caps, liberal and then exclamation mark, exclamation mark.
- 17:34Okay.
- 17:35I have a fairly liberal attitude.
- 17:36I don't mind admitting that.
- 17:39Anyway.
- 17:40Yes.
- 17:41on.
- 17:41Yeah, you picked up on that, did you?
- 17:43That it's somewhat of a a liberal attitude on the show here.
- 17:46Not big L, small L, you know.
- 17:48Anyway, moving on to some other quick news items.
- 17:51The BC Lions fired a coordinator this week.
- 17:55And there was much joy, but not really, because it was the wrong one.
- 17:58They released um their special teams coordinator.
- 18:02ha.
- 18:02know, because their players were running into each other on special teams, so that did need to happen, but that was not the f the top tier firing that needed to happen, in my
- 18:13opinion.
- 18:14it's safe to say it's time to open fire.
- 18:16He's out the pasture.
- 18:17Safe to say it's time to open fire.
- 18:19Yes.
- 18:20Yeah.
- 18:20There were a lot of comments about hopefully they're just warming up with this one.
- 18:25What's their coach's cap situation for well, that's Buck there though, so I don't know.
- 18:31No, they should they should be at, you know, at the point where if they've had anything historical it should be going away, but I don't know how long Campbell had left when they
- 18:40cut him out, but anyway, anything more to say about that?
- 18:43No, I don't think so.
- 18:44well, I guess we could talk about it in the game where we can talk about it now.
- 18:48But I mean it was a terrible special team's performance from beginning to end in that game for BC.
- 18:54And they haven't been great throughout this year certainly and in even into last year they were not tremendous.
- 18:59So I'm in some ways i I'm not surprised.
- 19:03again, I'm surprised he was the first to go, but I'm not surprised
- 19:07You know, they're in a bit of a free fall and it's not the end,
- 19:10Yeah, it's like you said, we'll talk more, but but just sort of summary.
- 19:14Two bad mistakes on returns and two punts shank badly.
- 19:19I can see where he's gone or why he's gone.
- 19:23Uh what else here?
- 19:24Oh MJ, you said you had something you wanted to talk about changes with the officials down south in the NFL and AFL.
- 19:31Well in the um in the NFL and the UFL.
- 19:35So yeah, so there's so there's a new collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the referees.
- 19:41I'm not sure if it's ratified yet or they're still negotiating, but anyway, so what they want to do, this is interesting, they want to send down poor performing referees from the
- 19:50NFL down to the UFL for extra training.
- 19:53And I guess in 2025 they had four referees that they sent down to the UFL for further development because they were not performing adequately.
- 20:01And they also want to have a practice squad at each game of 12 officials to travel with crews to substitute in for injured or underperforming referees and rotate people in for
- 20:13development.
- 20:17So
- 20:18And then in the UFL, good luck referees, because have you seen these clips?
- 20:22In the UFL they do in-game interviews with the referees.
- 20:26They're like, why did you what was your reasoning behind that call?
- 20:29Oh.
- 20:30And they just like stick the microphone in them and then got the referee answers and they're like, okay, next play, okay, let's go.
- 20:35So I was like, ho ho, in-game interviews of referees, referees being relegated, like taxi squads of referees.
- 20:44so I'm like, okay, so sometimes when things happen down there, they tend to happen up here.
- 20:50I don't think the CFL's ever gonna carry a 12 referee taxi squad.
- 20:54But it makes me wonder if they're gonna start relegating or moving up and moving some pieces around if there's more attention on the game internationally.
- 21:04Um well we've had a n C F L and the NFL have had a referee an officials agreement for quite a while where there's been officials going back and forth and actually officiating
- 21:14in each league.
- 21:15So CFL guys go down there and officiate in pregame and uh NFL guys come up here and officiate in pregames.
- 21:22Or in preseason, I mean.
- 21:23So so that's that wouldn't be new.
- 21:25I can see them doing it.
- 21:27I'm a little surprised
- 21:28Well no I mean 'cause there's been a lot of issues from what I've heard and read about NFL officiating over the last few years.
- 21:35So I'm not a that surprised that they're trying to do something to improve it.
- 21:39But relegating them down, that doesn't sound a lot.
- 21:42And to me, if I'm a UFL fan, so what?
- 21:46I'm getting the dregs?
- 21:47Like it's bad enough I'm not getting the players the best players.
- 21:50We kind of accept that because we know, but now you're flat out telling me that our reference
- 21:55that our referees are like cast offs and not good enough and are down here to like that's just like man, how do you maintain the integrity of the game without flat out saying,
- 22:07yeah, we're a development league, get over it.
- 22:09That's all we are.
- 22:10So it set it doesn't help them set themselves apart at all.
- 22:15And again, from a UFL point of view, I don't think it does you any good at all to do get that tied to the NFL unless you're simply that's all you want to be.
- 22:24But if you want to be a standalone professional football league, I don't think you can do that.
- 22:30And I think that's a huge mistake on their behalf for the integrity of their league as such.
- 22:35So I'm a little surprised that they've done it that way.
- 22:38But again, maybe that's just the power of the NFL and if you you wanna play, you gotta pay type of idea.
- 22:45Or maybe there's some NFL money coming with it too.
- 22:47Who knows?
- 22:48It's it's an interesting sort of thing.
- 22:50I I'm assuming what they're saying with this taxi squad is that if you get an official on one of the groups that has a bad weekend and underperforms in his game, the next week
- 23:00he'll be bumped back to the taxi squad or the UFL or whatever and somebody else will take his spot on that team.
- 23:07I hope it's not something where they're actually going to be in the middle of the game saying, no, we're changing an official now because who makes that call?
- 23:15rotate people in during the game.
- 23:17I don't think head referee, but maybe line judges or back judges, they might be like, Okay, well you're never gonna get experience.
- 23:23This is like how backup quarterbacks.
- 23:24You're never gonna get playing time experience if you're not in.
- 23:27So okay, back judge, you're in for these three plays and then we'll break like so I'm not sure how many how it's gonna work, but they did say that they're going to be subbing in
- 23:37for developmental.
- 23:39that's no there's no consistency in penalty calling everybody says what you want out of a referee or whatever official the game is called by is consistency.
- 23:47And if you're moving guys around by literally quarter by quarter or play by play, there goes your consistency.
- 23:53And yikes, that's that is wow.
- 23:56That's wild.
- 23:57that's what I wanted to talk about 'cause I like, this is actually very like this is huge really.
- 24:04is interesting.
- 24:05that ever happening in the CFL.
- 24:07I mean we don't have enough officials as it is.
- 24:09They're constantly harping on the fact that there's not enough officials coming through the system and to then go put even a what, another six guys if you wanted to cut it in
- 24:18half from twelve to six or even two or three.
- 24:20They're not they don't have that many officials to hang around a place thing.
- 24:23Yeah.
- 24:24like can you tell us why you called that to pass interference?
- 24:27that's doesn't help with the officiating too much,
- 24:31you know what I watched one interview, what an interview with a UFL referee and he was very straight to the point, this is why I did it and this is the reasoning and this is how
- 24:38I see it, that's how I call it.
- 24:40And I was like, I appreciated that.
- 24:42I was like, Okay, great.
- 24:45think you can give a little too much access though.
- 24:47Again, if you're gonna make uh a ref available after the game to discuss stuff, that might be worthwhile, but in game or halftime, I don't know.
- 24:56And and again, also this bit up to they're gonna rotate people in for experience, I don't like it, but that's still a little bit better than the impression I got that there's
- 25:05somebody in the command center who's gonna be sitting there saying, no, no, the side judge is having a terrible game.
- 25:10Get him out of there and put a replacement in
- 25:12Yeah.
- 25:13I hope that's not gonna happen.
- 25:15are gonna be under like can you imagine a taxi squad of guys just or like people just standing there waiting?
- 25:20And you're like Oh the stress, the stress of getting that that they're not getting paid, what players are getting paid.
- 25:29not, although they get more than C FL refs, but
- 25:32not getting like g people standing behind your shoulders pay.
- 25:36That's different.
- 25:37Yes.
- 25:38Well it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
- 25:41Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
- 25:43That was completely off my radar.
- 25:46I uh we've also sorta been following the attendance this year with the CFL, the the gate attendance.
- 25:52I don't wanna waste a lot of time on this, but since we've been doing it I figured I'd just I'd run through them again.
- 25:58Looked like it was a better week.
- 25:59They were up back up to twenty three thousand four hundred something was the average.
- 26:05And it went from thirty two and change in Winnipeg down to seventeen and change in Montreal.
- 26:12And in between Saskatchewan had twenty five and the Apple Bowl sold out at nineteen thousand
- 26:18that was a Toronto Argos home game.
- 26:20Argos had twenty five thousand people.
- 26:22No, the Argos had twenty five thousand people at their game.
- 26:26Good job, Argos.
- 26:28have a very good home games in Saskatchewan.
- 26:30Unfortunately they played like it was a home game too, damn it.
- 26:33But anyway.
- 26:34But yeah.
- 26:35And then uh like I said, the the sold out Apple Bowl, yes.
- 26:42I'll tell you it was something else.
- 26:43Including they had they had to have two or three hundred people there in standing room only.
- 26:48Just standing in a pack of people to watch the game and it was great because they were
- 26:52right at the sidelines, but six or seven deep, I don't know that I'd want to do that for a game.
- 26:57So it went over well.
- 26:58moving along, getting stuff.
- 27:00Oh, I'm just gonna mention this.
- 27:02If either of you wanna say anything, feel free, but I don't think we have to.
- 27:05We talked last week about the whole Brandon Soresby banned from the college ball for gambling stuff and people saying, Well, he'll go to the C F L for his year.
- 27:15He won't, 'cause the C F L has officially said no, he's he cannot play in the C F L because of his
- 27:20history of gambling.
- 27:21So good on them.
- 27:22they said and they said it no team can even add them to nego to their negotiation list, which I thought was the more interesting part of it.
- 27:29Was like, yeah, no, not only can you not sign right now, you can't even be put on a list.
- 27:34So that's I thought that was pretty interesting.
- 27:37And yes, it was.
- 27:37And it was a it was a good optics thing, but frankly it was easy to do, because he was never coming up here anyways.
- 27:44Not costing yourself anything to take that stand.
- 27:48Yeah.
- 27:49Speaking of stuff sort of along those lines, the um bad behavior going on to the transactions.
- 27:56we didn't have a lot this week, although Lewis Ward was released from the alloettes again, so I guess Maltos is is healed.
- 28:05And then the probably the big news just dropped this afternoon, the CFL or bigger news anyway.
- 28:11CFL came out and said that Ajou Ajou who'd been released by Saskatchewan for his conduct in the post Grey Cup parties and sexual harassment and I think they said unwanted
- 28:22attention and things like that.
- 28:24He's now I guess completed his counseling and his meetings and has been reinstated and then
- 28:31Literally I think just before airtime from what MJ said it came out that he's signed with the stamps now.
- 28:37But he will still have to serve his six game suspension that the league put on him.
- 28:41So they could have him back by past mid season, I guess, week ten.
- 28:44Any thoughts on that?
- 28:45Um, I thought it was weird, to be honest with you.
- 28:48I just thought it was a weird signing in that i the first thing it says to me is that the Stamp Peters are not expecting Reggie Bagleton back at all.
- 28:55he's done for the year and he may be done, in fact, for the career.
- 28:59That's this that's the gut feeling I'm now having about Reggie, unfortunately.
- 29:04And it's horrible to see that great a player leave after have to leave after an injury, an injury end of his career rather than any other way.
- 29:12But back to a Joe Joe.
- 29:13so I think that the Stampeters are signing like that's the reason I think they signed another receiver, is because they have a receiver hole.
- 29:20But st he's got a six game suspension, as you mentioned, which means it'll be game ten before he can even get into the practice field, which means it's game twelve or so before
- 29:31you get you get a chance to be on the field.
- 29:33By that time they could have Damian Alford back from the NFL.
- 29:37Like it's like
- 29:38I don't know that's what is weird to me is like if you had nobody else at all, like if you had no hope, but you've got Clark Barnes, you've got you know, Phil Pot, you've got
- 29:48Brissett, you might have Damian Alfred, and then why do you need a Ajou Ajou after all the baggage?
- 29:54That's the strange part to me.
- 29:56Is like I just don't it's it's a not that you know the fact that they signed him is not good.
- 30:03I get it.
- 30:04But the weird part is why did they sign?
- 30:07I just that's what I don't understand.
- 30:09so yeah, anyways.
- 30:11That's my comments on it.
- 30:13Rage.
- 30:14Very strange.
- 30:14just glad that O'Day said when it happened that he won't be playing for the Riders again.
- 30:19That's my own personal opinion.
- 30:20And apparently they didn't want him or did there was no sniff when he got reinstated, so
- 30:25Anything MJ or can I
- 30:27Okay.
- 30:28it's bad vibes.
- 30:29It's bad it's a bad look.
- 30:31It's a bad look.
- 30:32I hope he has learned lessons and is working on being a better human.
- 30:36Yes.
- 30:37Yeah.
- 30:37Yeah, mean everybody should get a second chance and if he you know, if it is a learning experience, if he comes back as a a much better person than great.
- 30:44So we'll see.
- 30:46But let's move on to uh to MJ's favorite segment, our World Cup report, which this week is most of us don't care.
- 30:55No, no, no, most of us don't care.
- 30:57But but there is actually a second part to this week's World Cup report beyond that.
- 31:03And that is
- 31:04But maybe we have a chance here to um send trade whatever Stuart Johnson over to FIFA because he's willing to turn the rule book into toss salad to get more scoring and Lord
- 31:17knows if there's a game that needs more scoring, it's soccer.
- 31:20But they scored six goals in one game, didn't they?
- 31:23Six goals.
- 31:25the output for eight games.
- 31:27It's about the setup.
- 31:28It's about the setup.
- 31:30Okay.
- 31:31Okay, I'm saying you're allowed one cheer for the Canada win over South Africa.
- 31:34you don't understand.
- 31:35This is really big fans in case you live under a rock.
- 31:38This is hi Canada made history.
- 31:41This is the first time ever that they have been to the realms of sixteen.
- 31:45So this is very big, very awesome.
- 31:49We are playing playing Morocco on Sunday.
- 31:53I think history is a strong word to use in this case, but it is a significant win that they've achieved to go on to the next round, I will say.
- 32:01and a Canadian team did well.
- 32:03So I will celebrate just like I celebrate when the doubles badminton team makes it to a semifinal in some world tournament.
- 32:11Oh yeah.
- 32:12I'll be watching soccer on Sunday.
- 32:14Ha ha ha.
- 32:17Oh, I'm awfully cocky for somebody who got his butt handed to him in the fantasy league this week, by the way.
- 32:23I had a hundred and fourteen point five points, which I thought.
- 32:27Most of my uh most of my players I thought did well.
- 32:31Tommy Nealed let me down a little bit.
- 32:33well actually he didn't.
- 32:34The the bombers did by only targeting him like three times.
- 32:37I thought he'd get more.
- 32:38However, I was up against uh Travis Kerr from two and out, and it wouldn't have mattered how well Neald had done 'cause Travis had Tyson Philpot and Khaman from Toronto on his
- 32:50team.
- 32:50So he beat me by almost thirty points, one forty six something.
- 32:53I'm now
- 32:55One and three and looking for answers this week.
- 32:58MJ, you had a better week.
- 33:01Well, I want to before MJ jumps uh and says talks about her astounding week at fantasy football, I'm just gonna say I think Karma has just come out and bit you on the the hind
- 33:11there, old man, as immediately after that soccer rat and des downplaying how important that was to our fair country, your video has since disappeared again like last week.
- 33:22You have now been you have now been sent off with a yellow card.
- 33:26You've you have got a yellow card and been sent to the sideline
- 33:30And that's it.
- 33:30And maybe if you don't get a red card, we'll allow you to come back in at some point during this broadcast.
- 33:36However, at this point in time, yes, you have been yellow carded.
- 33:39One more and you're done, pal.
- 33:40One more.
- 33:41That's it.
- 33:41I think that's the rule.
- 33:42I tell you what, let let me let me yeah.
- 33:49I don't wanna lose another whole week.
- 33:50So we're gonna try something here just to make it worse.
- 33:52I'm gonna I'm gonna back out for a minute and see if I come back in.
- 33:55that game, right?
- 33:56I know about that game.
- 33:57meantime, MJ, how did you do with fantasy this week?
- 33:59I was up against Greg from Piffles and I beat him.
- 34:03Yay, good for you.
- 34:05All the writers lose.
- 34:07not a great week at fantasy.
- 34:08I was actually pretty worried.
- 34:09So because I had Brissette as my flex, and he had zero catches.
- 34:16So I got zero points with brissett.
- 34:18I had who did I have?
- 34:19I had the stamps defense.
- 34:20So yay me.
- 34:21And I had um I bro, you know, carrying on with Alexander and Philpot.
- 34:26And I wish I had made Philpot my captain.
- 34:28I'm still too stressed to make a non-
- 34:32quarterback a captain just in case.
- 34:34I don't know.
- 34:34I don't know.
- 34:35And then I had I cheaped out of my running backs this time because I thought, mm-mm.
- 34:41But I put Scott and Conley and so they did okay.
- 34:44And then I had Schaefer Baker and yeah.
- 34:46And Brissett with zero.
- 34:48But I still managed to.
- 34:50I am sitting second in the podcast league.
- 34:53I'm three and one.
- 34:54Managed to beat Greg so things aren't so bad.
- 34:58Yes.
- 34:58Yes, he he yeah.
- 35:01I have to
- 35:02me at fantasy though, so I mean the the the quest continues for dominancy in fantasy.
- 35:08Greg on sports in the X organizing part that I see but you don't was made a point of coming out saying he felt like he should be in line for the Red Blacks GM position 'cause
- 35:18he started Lewis without bothering to see if he was actually on the on the game day roster.
- 35:24I had Thiece and then I was like the then I looked at the last second depth chart and I was like, whoa, Scott?
- 35:31And then I had Bertrand Hoodon.
- 35:33And then I was like, oh I better check the depth chart and it wasn't.
- 35:37It was Conley, so I'm glad I Yeah.
- 35:41I was happy with Conley.
- 35:42I went with him too.
- 35:43I thought they'd s get more split put Bertan Herdan in a little bit more.
- 35:48Tommy the train, I was happy with my team.
- 35:50I just ran into a roller coaster there.
- 35:53So you've got though, you're number two in the league at this point and you're up against number one this week, are you not?
- 35:59I am so No, I'm playing Ryan, I think, from the horse from I think I'm playing R be Ryan from I hope not.
- 36:09Don't stress me out.
- 36:10I was just gonna You know, I I do best when I do this last minute with my kid hovering over my shoulder and giving me like suggestions that are may or may not be helpful, so
- 36:20Yes.
- 36:21Well, my week isn't gonna get any easier 'cause I've got Sapphomod from the Piffles podcast and somebody else who's usually very good.
- 36:28Gotta start clawing my way up.
- 36:30Anyone cares?
- 36:30I'll be putting out old man plays CFL Weekly Fantasy on Thursday four three or four hours before the game.
- 36:36And we'll see what we're doing this week.
- 36:38But that's yeah.
- 36:41Yes.
- 36:41That's how
- 36:43Hey, mine is basically the same.
- 36:44Instead, I have a dog instead of a kid.
- 36:46Whatcha doing, Papa?
- 36:47Whatcha doing?
- 36:50All right.
- 36:51So let's go on to what actually happened in the games this week.
- 36:54We had four of them.
- 36:56And I gotta say, after Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday night football, I hit Monday night and I was kind of, where's the football?
- 37:02I was I was enjoying getting back to this one game a day.
- 37:08Yes.
- 37:08great.
- 37:09And we started out with Edmonton going into Winnipeg and winning twenty three eighteen.
- 37:16And I'll just say a couple of things before we let you guys hop in on anything that you may want to add.
- 37:23I I was really impressed with the play calling from on Edmonton's part with Masinic.
- 37:28He had a balanced game.
- 37:30He had Winnipeg confused.
- 37:31They didn't know what was coming going on.
- 37:33They had they discovered something with Rankin off their right side, Winnipeg's defense is left side there.
- 37:40I like the fact it was a well played game.
- 37:41There weren't a lot of penalties in it at all again, which is nice to see.
- 37:45We're getting more in that.
- 37:46There's only a again, only one team over a hundred yards in penalties out of the four games this week, so that's nice to have.
- 37:52And the last sort of generic comment I had is is Brady, they got 13 carries for 77 yards, and I I don't remember exactly, I think it was like five or six catches for another 40
- 38:03yards.
- 38:04But it didn't feel to me like he was really used.
- 38:06I don't know what it was.
- 38:07It just it didn't feel like he had an impact in that game to me.
- 38:11Maybe it's because he had that terrible fumble and he wasn't to be trusted the rest of the game.
- 38:16Maybe.
- 38:17Well.
- 38:18I thought of Yeah, or it's just Tony Gonde.
- 38:22I I don't know.
- 38:23after the first half I said, Is it Thanksgiving?
- 38:25'Cause there's an awful lot of butter balls out here, man.
- 38:27There's just flying everywhere.
- 38:29Turkey turkeys are flying, you know.
- 38:31It was ridiculous.
- 38:32It was just guys like it was crazy.
- 38:34But it turned into a better game than I thought.
- 38:37because it started out so sloppy and so, you know, so ridiculous.
- 38:41But it was again one of those games that
- 38:42felt more exciting than the score indicated and felt more exciting than the game really indicated.
- 38:47I thought Edmonton played very well.
- 38:49I really think that they I thought their defensive line played really well.
- 38:54I thought yeah they they called a good game.
- 38:56I thought Winnipeg played okay.
- 38:58and they did get Brady uh going.
- 39:00I thought he was more consistent and like wasn't didn't break the big one but had some really nice runs.
- 39:07Um, Rankin had the big one again.
- 39:09And that's you know, that makes all the difference.
- 39:10But again, I thought he kind of disappeared.
- 39:13Uh as you keep saying, old man, he he had goes through those periods where he just disappears.
- 39:17And I thought he did that in the second half, pretty much.
- 39:20But and Winnipeg made a lot of adjustments and I thought played much better in the second half.
- 39:24But yeah, Edmonton's full credit.
- 39:27when we get to power rankers to talk about it, but yeah, they're they're winning.
- 39:31they're three and 0
- 39:32Full credit.
- 39:32Yes.
- 39:33And the the one thing I will say that though the still to me the difference between Rankin and Ray well, not just Rankin, but Rankin and the the Elk's O line as opposed to Brady and
- 39:44the Winnipeg O line, if Winnipeg does get a lead in a game, it looks like they can still depend on running that game out and getting four to five yards a run.
- 39:55Whereas with Edmonton in that run out of the game situation, they're constantly getting stopped for no yards or a loss of yards.
- 40:02So they need to either sort that out or start using a different running back in those late game situations.
- 40:09They've got Isaiah Knight who's out of UBC looked really good in the preseason as more of a power back.
- 40:15Maybe you use him when it comes time to to get the hard yards.
- 40:18Yeah.
- 40:19Yeah.
- 40:19I mean that hit on Brady that caused that fumble in the begin in the first part of the game, that was that was crushing.
- 40:25I mean he fumbled the ball, but man, no wonder.
- 40:28I mean he got that was smacked.
- 40:30That was smacked.
- 40:31That was an incredible hit to start the weekend off.
- 40:34And there were some good ones over pretty much every game there was one of those.
- 40:37But that that was a very good one to start the weekend.
- 40:40Well is that the one because that was the play where Brady fumbled it and Mogenson recovers it, throws it up, runs it up, then and lateral passes it to Tyrell for it, and
- 40:50then Tyrell just turns the jets on and almost scores a touchdown.
- 40:55I was like, here we go.
- 40:57Look at this.
- 40:58Look so nice.
- 41:00That was beautiful.
- 41:01Beautiful play.
- 41:03it didn't help it didn't help that uh for Winnipeg that Pokey Wilson got hurt on that play.
- 41:08Um so it exactly.
- 41:12Exactly.
- 41:12So yeah.
- 41:13Yeah.
- 41:14And then.
- 41:15they got it to the three yard line and I know they're doing well, but they didn't score on that one.
- 41:21they did leave points on the board.
- 41:24That was in f they did that more than once.
- 41:26It was actually quite infering.
- 41:27I was like, so um Winnipeg's defence is bend but don't break at the three yard line.
- 41:31Is that this is how the the game is gonna go?
- 41:34It was so strange they could not punch a goal line in to save their lives.
- 41:39It was like they should have been up on Winnipeg a lot more than they were.
- 41:43That score should have been much higher before the half.
- 41:47yeah, which is goes back to my comment that I made earlier, They're winning by exactly.
- 41:52Like at one point Winnipeg had five fumbles.
- 41:55Not all of them were a turnover.
- 41:57They fumbled the ball five times and were up by one point.
- 42:01Like what what is that?
- 42:02What is I was like, this doesn't even make sense.
- 42:04Like this game's so weird.
- 42:06Like
- 42:07Edmonton is sort of reminding me of Calgary last year where Calgary did the same thing.
- 42:11no one really expected them to be like this, and then they won all those games early in the season.
- 42:16Now, not saying that Edmonton's going to level off like Calgary did last year, but at this point in time, I'm just I'm not fully confident.
- 42:24I'm not fully confident that this is a reality for them yet.
- 42:28Um,
- 42:28they also had a touchdown or should have had a touchdown where Lothair caught it in the end zone but was bobbling it a bit and uh ended up knocked back out of the end zone before
- 42:37he got it and it was a turnover on downs 'cause it was third down.
- 42:40So yeah, they definitely left stuff out there.
- 42:42Yeah.
- 42:42Um also I wanna know please help me out.
- 42:45Why were the bombers playing zone defense at the very end of the game and just like w like Edmonton just like walked right in.
- 42:52I couldn't believe it.
- 42:53They're just like the cushion was so soft on those receivers.
- 42:57It was
- 42:59I w if I were like I'm like not I'm an impartial viewer of this game and I was furious at the bombers defense.
- 43:07If I was a bombers fan, I would have been tearing my hair out.
- 43:11uh I don't know whether they were trying to put pressure on Cody's and and you know, and therefore they were in soft zone, instead.
- 43:17But yeah.
- 43:19Yeah.
- 43:20If if you don't get him under pressure, he'll deliver the ball.
- 43:22So and they and Edmonton's offensive line seem to be doing okay.
- 43:27Edmonton's defensive line was very impressive.
- 43:29I thought their defensive line finally showed that they're the money that they're being paid, you know?
- 43:34they had Zack so flustered, he like shovel past a pass forward.
- 43:38I'm like, whoa, Zack, that's so dangerous.
- 43:41And it's not like him to do that.
- 43:43He is a veteran quarterback.
- 43:44That was actually quite a rookie mistake.
- 43:46I was like, but he just looks so flustered.
- 43:48Wasn't that and wasn't that one of the first of several intentional grounding.
- 43:53I think that got called because there was nobody there at all.
- 43:56There was nobody even close.
- 43:57So
- 43:59I think like a a O Lyman ended up having picking up a ball.
- 44:03Yeah.
- 44:04Like it was just flustered all day.
- 44:08Yes.
- 44:09Not pretty football for parts of it.
- 44:11It was you know, JT and I were
- 44:13defense it was a great game.
- 44:16But
- 44:17I mean GT and I were talking about this b while we were waiting for you to g to to join us earlier and saying all the games this weekend had very good parts, but none of them were a
- 44:26good game all the way through.
- 44:28They all had bad plays or bad decisions But the Elk are three and at the top of the league.
- 44:37Only undefeated team.
- 44:40So
- 44:40we all predicted.
- 44:41Yeah.
- 44:43I just have a question about Winnipeg.
- 44:45I just wanna circle back a bit.
- 44:46Do they have a kicking problem?
- 44:48Or is this just a weird off game?
- 44:51Well, I think it's a weird off game.
- 44:53maybe but Castile's missed in a few games now.
- 44:58He maybe this year's Brett Louther.
- 45:00Okay.
- 45:01Maybe.
- 45:02struggling with anything?
- 45:03No.
- 45:06Yes, he is.
- 45:08Maybe Lewis Ward will do the the No no I'm quarterback, Glenn Kevin Glenn tour, yes.
- 45:18Maybe he'll do it in one year.
- 45:19Maybe he'll sign with all nine CFL teams in in the one year.
- 45:25dear.
- 45:25Okay, I'm gonna jump ahead to a game that uh I don't want to talk about, but we have to.
- 45:30Toronto went into Saskatchewan, but really we're playing a home game.
- 45:34And as the home team won 40 to 34, and it I gotta admit it shocked me.
- 45:40I did not think they would be able to put up those kind of points against the Saskatchewan defense.
- 45:45But full credit to the Argos team and full credit.
- 45:49Credit as a player to Kelly.
- 45:50I do not like what he does as a human being very much, but he put on quite a show of talent and athleticism on Friday night there and basically carried that team to the
- 46:02victory.
- 46:03they were they were on.
- 46:04They took advantage of every mistake that the riders made and
- 46:08Frankly I thought they deserved to win.
- 46:09Any thoughts
- 46:10I thought yeah, no, Toronto it was a surprising game.
- 46:13Saskatchewan looked flat from the get go.
- 46:15I don't know if it was a trap game for them.
- 46:17It's not like they have a big opponent coming opponent coming out this week against Ottawa.
- 46:22So so it shouldn't have been a trap game.
- 46:24I don't know if they just but they looked flat from the get go and then they were just never able to catch up and Kelly kept firing bombs.
- 46:31And and as I said the week before,
- 46:33I picked Calgary because of that secondary.
- 46:36And I think that secondary showed up this week against, you know, against Kelly because he was throwing bombs and they weren't able to get there.
- 46:41and yeah, I yeah, it's yeah, I was very surprised in some ways.
- 46:46and they made a couple of strange decisions that I thought were like, why did they do that?
- 46:51you know, when they should have gone for it and didn't.
- 46:53just so everyone knows, I'm not taking notes.
- 46:55I'm kind of just doing I'm doing MJ vibes.
- 46:58I'm just watching the games and doing vibes.
- 47:00So so there's some of it that I kinda have to dr think back on.
- 47:04But was that the one where there was third and short.
- 47:06They challenged it.
- 47:08Then they didn't get the call and then they decide not to kick.
- 47:11It was like, Why did you do that?
- 47:13That was bizarre.
- 47:14Why didn't you just go for it then?
- 47:15If you like it was very strange.
- 47:17So there was a lot of weird stuff in that game For sure.
- 47:20Yeah, that that was on the Toronto side.
- 47:22I couldn't understand that challenge 'cause it was one of the ones that uh you're never gonna get it an overturn 'cause there was you couldn't see anything in the pile, yeah.
- 47:31And
- 47:31rookie head coach mistake though.
- 47:33I'll allow it.
- 47:35I'll allow it when you're a rookie head coach, but
- 47:38and the thing is I would push back a little bit about him throwing bombs all night.
- 47:42He threw a lot of deep stuff, but he didn't complete a lot deep.
- 47:45where he was beating them was in the shorter and intermediate stuff.
- 47:49He ended up he wasn't over four hundred yards this week.
- 47:51He was below three hundreds.
- 47:53Yeah.
- 47:53So he just he played well and he missed uh plays the way he will do, but when he was needed.
- 48:01they kept saying in the broadcast the off schedule plays and that was it.
- 48:05He when he when the play broke down, he was pretty good.
- 48:09he he managed to scramble around and somebody said earlier that he's he's very similar.
- 48:15it was in an interview with Dave Dickinson I saw today and he just said, Yeah, they're you know, we played Nathan Work last week, played Chad Kelly this week, and they're basically
- 48:24the same quarterback.
- 48:25Like that will run around and then launch the ball.
- 48:28so you have to be totally prepared for that at all times.
- 48:31And if you're
- 48:32And if you even leave one guy open for a split second, the quarterback will find him, and that's what he seemed to do in that game.
- 48:38Yeah.
- 48:38Um they're gonna have to Argo's gonna have to watch it because he got sacked four times.
- 48:43That is a lot.
- 48:45And honestly, it feels like watching these Argo games that every single player in the league has a personal vendetta against this man.
- 48:53The way that they are going after him is nothing I have not seen them go after any other quarterback like the CR series.
- 49:00Like I was like, whoa, this is like pretty vicious and they need to shore up that old line because he's not gonna survive if he gets keeps getting like hit like this.
- 49:09And most of it with four man rush from the riders.
- 49:12they did blitz some, but it wasn't that that much.
- 49:16Mind you, the Toronto D line did fairly well too.
- 49:19That they didn't get as many sacks, but they were they were giving Harris some problems.
- 49:23And he took one horrendous hit on a obvious miscommunication that they just let I think it was Chatfield have a straight run at him with no blockers.
- 49:33Yeah.
- 49:33I remember being a little surprised and I thought that was just Saskatchewan being flat, but their O line was not as good as it normally is.
- 49:40Saskatchewan just didn't look like they were on top of their game, so to speak.
- 49:43know what Hicks had that sixty-one yard rush off the top and that just took all the wind out of their sails.
- 49:50That was that was it.
- 49:51Yeah.
- 49:53It doesn't but that was just enough to get like in their heads.
- 49:56my favorite Harris moment of the night is when his helmet got stuck to the defender's helmet and they couldn't get each other pried apart and they're both like trying to they
- 50:04couldn't figure out what's going on and they finally realized that their helmets were stuck together and I was like, This is it made my day.
- 50:09Mate
- 50:10was a Toronto home game, so Saskatchewan had all that travel to do.
- 50:15but
- 50:16Chad Kelly hit the upright.
- 50:17And you know Stuart Johnson's like, see, this is why we can't have these here.
- 50:25Yeah.
- 50:26I got a kick out of it 'cause last week for Calgary, McAllister did a missed field goal return for the touchdown against Saskatchewan and the CFL announces we're all see we're
- 50:35gonna lose this most exciting part of the game.
- 50:38Then Kelly puts one off the uprights and they're all oh see that's why we can't have the goalpost here.
- 50:45Yeah.
- 50:46But yes.
- 50:49But it does make me wonder and I'd appreciate you two's input on this.
- 50:53I get a little close as a fan, should we be worrying much about the riders special teams?
- 50:58That's two return touchdowns in two weeks.
- 51:01They gave up the field goal to McAllister and they gave up the punt return to Grant.
- 51:06No, because McAllister just scored one off this week too.
- 51:09It's just McAllister.
- 51:10That one I'm not concerned about 'cause that's just McAllister doing McAllister things.
- 51:14So really they've given up one that you maybe need to be concerned about.
- 51:19but in both cases they weren't close to make an attackle on either of them.
- 51:23there's a special teams coordinator available for you to hire.
- 51:26With a hell of a resume.
- 51:28There's there's availability.
- 51:30Yeah, I w
- 51:31not what I would be mostly concerned about.
- 51:33to be honest with you, I haven't been paying enough attention to notice Saskatchewan special teams and whether they are, looking soft or weaker.
- 51:52their returner got hurt, correct, and they put Emilus in and then he got hurt.
- 51:46Why would you put Emilus in?
- 51:48That is a terrible decision to put one of your top receivers in for punt returns.
- 51:56I don't know.
- 51:57I didn't understand that decision.
- 51:58I agreed 'cause the broadcasters were like WTF and I'm like, yeah, I agree.
- 52:02Like I don't understand.
- 52:03Mace basically said it's professional football, people who get hurt, we have to make adjustments.
- 52:08That's what we did.
- 52:09So I don't know.
- 52:10though that's a that's a it's a good point.
- 52:13By the time that game was done and with the injury updates from I've seen this week, both Emilus and Schaefer Baker were not practicing and and took shots So are they both gonna be
- 52:23missing going into this week?
- 52:25That's significant, That's they're playing Ottawa, thankfully, but still it's significant.
- 52:30So
- 52:31Is there a returner also still injured?
- 52:33There yeah, well we'll cover all that in the injury reports at the end here.
- 52:37give people the reason to to to stay through my blah blah blah and actually get some information at the end.
- 52:43my like last point on this game was at the beginning when they were interviewing Keon Schaefer Baker and honestly I'm so in love I might stop breathing
- 52:55Kian, can you please share your curly girl hair routine with us because it is beautiful.
- 53:02I honestly, like best hair of the CFL.
- 53:07Take your helmet off more.
- 53:09Oh, just because he had short hair before and he's grown it all out.
- 53:17I didn't even recognize him.
- 53:19Well, I had two other things I was gonna say on this.
- 53:22And some people might accuse me of being a homer on this 'cause it's a little bit towards the Saskatchewan side, but I gotta say I thought the refs were inconsistent in calling the
- 53:31roughing the passer.
- 53:32Because there was a play earlier on where Harris was on the ground and one of the Toronto D linemen frankly just pancaked him, fell on him.
- 53:42And they didn't call it and
- 53:43when Saskatchewan challenged it, it still was not a roughing the passer.
- 53:46So I thought, okay, you're not calling this game tight, I get it.
- 53:49That's fine.
- 53:50A little bit further in the game, there's a play where Mike Rose comes in and hits Kelly nowhere near the head, under the arm, frankly, just a split second after he's released the
- 54:02ball, and there's a flag thrown.
- 54:04And it's roughing the passer.
- 54:06And I could not see
- 54:08any reason why and and even the announcers in their sort of ways were questioning that.
- 54:14So didn't seem terribly um consistent in that particular aspect, although overall the officiating was good.
- 54:22And then my last comment is Jackson Ford got the start at safety with Lacombo out and you can see the family history in there.
- 54:31There
- 54:32There was some Al Ford hits.
- 54:33He was coming downhill and laying the lumber hard.
- 54:36He got at least three, maybe four, just real knockdown smackdown hits on curls and stuff like that.
- 54:43So I like to see that.
- 54:44Nothing dirty.
- 54:45Good clean hits, the receivers had to have their head on a swivel.
- 54:49Okay.
- 54:50the last thing I'll say about that game that I just brought back to my mind when you were talking about uh about that was that uh I thought the broadcast crew was good again.
- 54:58I thought Dusty and and well uh why am I drawing a blank?
- 55:02Yeah, they worked very well and they were you know, they were excited and they I thought that was a good job.
- 55:08I did think that that was, you know, really well done on Probably.
- 55:12Yeah.
- 55:13Yeah, you know, you know, I'm not usually your biggest fan, but I thought that was a good combination.
- 55:18And I thought it was yeah, I thought they did well.
- 55:20So
- 55:21Yep.
- 55:21I will agree with that.
- 55:23But we'll move on here to uh Calgary.
- 55:27Going into BC, but not the usual place in BC.
- 55:30Not BC Place, but the Apple Bowl in Kelowna, the game I got to go see.
- 55:34Yay.
- 55:35Again, not a terrible game, but not the greatest one.
- 55:38The Lions play was sloppy.
- 55:39It I can't say anything else about it.
- 55:42a lot of it was on special teams, but talking about their special teams coordinator, shown the door this week.
- 55:47Well, they had two problems on kickoffs, one of which they barely managed to not lose.
- 55:53The second one they lost.
- 55:56They had two punts that were shanked badly to the right, and the one w ended up I think with a net of about four yards after the penalty was applied.
- 56:04And twice on third down they had the stamps punting and the rushers, on special teams, jumped offside and gave them a first down.
- 56:12And I know at least the first time it led to a touchdown, and I think the second time led to points too.
- 56:17So just
- 56:18sloppy, sloppy football in in a lot of ways for the Lions.
- 56:24The stamps stamps played well, although I gotta say it was it was more apparent maybe being live there, but some of their back end was not tackling terribly well.
- 56:35I mean I'll give credit there was I think it was Johnson for them who made a couple of just fantastic tackles in the open field all on his own, no support and and cleaned them
- 56:44up.
- 56:44But the rest of that back end were
- 56:46Missing tackles they should have made and giving up yards they shouldn't have.
- 56:49That's my overall impressions.
- 56:51Jump on in.
- 56:53Yeah, well, um, okay, I'll go.
- 56:55There's a couple of things that I was that I know like they Stampeders went in with a game plan that was interesting to attack B C special teams right from the get go because that
- 57:05initial kickoff was that was a a planned play, that pooch kick, to be able to try to get the ball back and they almost pulled it off.
- 57:13I mean that was a great play and they almost pulled it off.
- 57:16So there was yeah, they just
- 57:18BC again didn't look ready and their special teams didn't look ready throughout the rest of the game.
- 57:24They were just like from the get go.
- 57:25They were off they were off.
- 57:27So my question is this, has anybody said who the replacement for McDermott is?
- 57:31Like have they announced do they have a special do they have a special teams coach going forward?
- 57:36Or what are they doing?
- 57:37'Cause they're playing in three days.
- 57:39They're playing in three days and I don't know who's coaching special teams yet.
- 57:43that's kind of strange.
- 57:44up there, see if they have a new coaching staff update on their website.
- 57:47on the Stampeder side, from my point of view, you know, there's a few real big concerns that I had.
- 57:53I think two things.
- 57:54One of them as you mentioned, old man, their d their tackling was really soft this game.
- 57:59They they let a lot of guys go and let a lot of guys get past them for extra yardage that they didn't have.
- 58:04And Dickinson even said that today after practice.
- 58:07So
- 58:08I was glad to know that it wasn't just me watching it on television that the coaches saw the same thing.
- 58:12So yeah, I thought their sa their tackling was really soft.
- 58:15And I'm concerned about Calgary's O line.
- 58:17I Calgary's O line's not nearly as good as it should be, given that it's the same O line that they had last year, and looked really good last year.
- 58:25a year later with the same guys, they should have continuity and be as good or better.
- 58:30And yet this year I think they're they're giving up too much pressure.
- 58:33I think Vernon's under too much pressure.
- 58:35And BC's defensive line looked really good this week compared to the first few weeks where they looked horrible.
- 58:41So so that's I'm not sure if that's BC or if that's Calgary, but either way, Calgary's offensive line, I wasn't impressed with their offensive I haven't been impressed this year
- 58:50with their offensive line.
- 58:51Um however, on the opposite side of the ball, the D line looked tremendous.
- 58:55I mean, it just looked like they could do what they want by the time that game was finished.
- 58:59But with all the rotation with
- 59:01both Ormelade and Hutchins back and then with the rotations of other guys going in, it was just it was great to watch.
- 59:08And I thought that made a huge difference.
- 59:10Their back end needs to be shored up.
- 59:12They've got some issues there.
- 59:13But the the front seven looked really, really solid again and I'm pretty pleased with that.
- 59:18And that Tevin Jones catch where he bobbled it and then knocked it to himself, that was incredible.
- 59:24That was an incredible catch.
- 59:25no finish it because he like fell back into the end zone and then they had their World Cup soccer celebration.
- 59:34Which was the best.
- 59:36The best.
- 59:38And only the Stampeders could have done that.
- 59:40I was waiting because only the Stampeders can pull off a TD celebration such as that.
- 59:45Yeah.
- 59:46since they've had since they've had a full team a celebration like back in the day.
- 59:50But that was a good one.
- 59:51That was a very good one.
- 59:52And then and then his interview at the end of the game was pretty funny where he was like he he didn't really know how to describe it.
- 59:59It was like he does he's n is I he wasn't very comfortable in front of the camera.
- 1:00:03I thought that was v very funny.
- 1:00:05And finally I would just like to say mention that the the score turning out forty one to thirty three gives us a great head start on the season series for the jersey.
- 1:00:14For the and that means it's seventy four dollars after the first game.
- 1:00:18So don't forget we're adding up for everybody that's new.
- 1:00:21Uh I have a lovely vintage G Roy Simon B C Lions jersey for sale with all proceeds going to CFL fans by cancer.
- 1:00:30And it will be costing you the total amount of the total score of all the games between the Stampeders and the Lions this year.
- 1:00:38So after one game, it is
- 1:00:41Currently riding at seventy four dollars.
- 1:00:43And that's my recap of the game.
- 1:00:45a good start.
- 1:00:46Well, just before you say anything, MJ, let me just jump in and say having seen that Jones catch live and on television, television did not do it credit.
- 1:00:56it was unbelievable.
- 1:00:58It was just spectacular.
- 1:00:59The there it was probably 80% orange jerseys in the stands.
- 1:01:04The Calgary's had had a lot of a lot of supporters there.
- 1:01:07There was a lot of red as well.
- 1:01:09Strangely enough, the third probably best color was Riders Green.
- 1:01:13That's they're showing up as they do for stuff.
- 1:01:15But that catch was just amazing and even the B C fans that were around me in the stands were going, wow So
- 1:01:21Yeah, that was a that was a good one.
- 1:01:24Yeah.
- 1:01:24we have so many options for catch of the year, and it's like week four.
- 1:01:28Yeah.
- 1:01:29That's up there.
- 1:01:30Yeah.
- 1:01:31fantastic.
- 1:01:32let's see, the they got four sacks on Rourke.
- 1:01:36So that's he's not gonna last.
- 1:01:39and a lot more a lot more pressures than that.
- 1:01:41And a lot more pressures than that.
- 1:01:43That is very worrisome.
- 1:01:45they basically shut Butler down.
- 1:01:47They had like they had no answer, they had no run game going.
- 1:01:51yeah,
- 1:01:53I think most of mine are special teams related.
- 1:01:55I watched BC returner, whatever his guys I can't remember his name.
- 1:01:59He was running into his own players.
- 1:02:01I saw it twice where he ran into his own player on special Rick trying to run the ball up and I was like, god, you guys, like what are you doing?
- 1:02:08This is so frustrating.
- 1:02:09McAllister had a really nice uh punt return for a touchdown or 139 yards, and I wasn't sure if you knew.
- 1:02:15That he used to be a Thai cat.
- 1:02:17I know you didn't watch the broadcast, old man, but just you know, it may have been mentioned more than once that he was a former Hamilton Tiger cat.
- 1:02:25I'm like, yes, thank you.
- 1:02:26They all do good when they leave.
- 1:02:28Thank you for thank you for sharing.
- 1:02:30and you know what?
- 1:02:31I know Renee Paradis is injured, but man, their rookie got a fifty seven yard field goal.
- 1:02:37It was beautiful, and he just no stress on that kid.
- 1:02:40That was brilliant.
- 1:02:41Really well done.
- 1:02:42Yeah.
- 1:02:44Yeah, they full credit to Renee and the career he's had, but at this point they wouldn't have been trying that field goal with him.
- 1:02:49No, so the kids the kids got the leg for sure.
- 1:02:55And you know what?
- 1:02:56The turf looked like they were playing on the grass, it looked really good.
- 1:02:59They they did a close up of a the TSN shady moment as they panned in tight on a a divot in the field.
- 1:03:09But it wasn't torn up.
- 1:03:10It looked really good.
- 1:03:12Yeah.
- 1:03:13Well
- 1:03:13guys sliding around a bit that weren't used to playing in it, but overall, yeah, the it didn't impact the game.
- 1:03:19It looked it looked great.
- 1:03:21TSN did a great broadcast we talked about.
- 1:03:23Um we were joking that maybe the BC Lions had been out partying a little too hard in Kelowna.
- 1:03:28They weren't quite game ready.
- 1:03:29I think they're staying there this week, so I think they're gonna be a lot stricter with players.
- 1:03:36because it did it looked like they had been out having a little too much fun in Kelowna.
- 1:03:41Not quite ready.
- 1:03:42There there may have been some
- 1:03:45While it is wine country.
- 1:03:46It is wine country as we learned.
- 1:03:48Yes.
- 1:03:49There may have been some local young fans interested in entertaining them.
- 1:03:53it seemed like yes.
- 1:03:54Speaking of which, did you catch because I did like I said, I did skim through the stuff on the TV and did you catch the moment the the the this little running joke they have
- 1:04:04about all the mascots hitting on on Kate?
- 1:04:07Yeah that's
- 1:04:07I I s I saw it without p I saw it without paying any attention to it.
- 1:04:11That's all I can say.
- 1:04:13yeah.
- 1:04:13it's not funny.
- 1:04:14I don't think it's funny, but I'm sure other people think it's hilarious, but I don't think it's funny.
- 1:04:20maybe I shouldn't have, but I have to admit I found it funny.
- 1:04:23Yeah.
- 1:04:23They had they had her and whatever the lion's mascot is, I think they said Roar or something, sitting at one of the party uh time tables having a glass of wine and then all
- 1:04:32of a sudden a young woman in a lion's jersey comes up and pulls Roar by the shoulder and she's got a little stuffed baby lion in her arms.
- 1:04:40She slaps him across the face and he turns around and Kate slaps him across the face and
- 1:04:44Obviously not funny, I'll stop with that now.
- 1:04:49Whoops.
- 1:04:49was if no, it this is just mm she m anyway, I'm not getting into it.
- 1:04:54It
- 1:04:55I gotta tell you, MJ, your reaction actually has me thinking, Maybe I gotta rethink that 'cause if if you're feeling that way about it, I missed something.
- 1:05:02So
- 1:05:03A is like cheating funny Is putting a female broadcaster through like look at all the the all the mascots wanna be your boyfriend all that's like like
- 1:05:15d distill her worth down to like her desirability.
- 1:05:19Is that funny?
- 1:05:20Is that a fun little like angle?
- 1:05:23I don't know, maybe it is.
- 1:05:24Maybe I'm just uh you know, I'm just an unfunny feminist, but I think they can do better and be smarter.
- 1:05:30There's fun things you can do.
- 1:05:31Milt is racing a cow.
- 1:05:34Yeah.
- 1:05:34uh
- 1:05:35That's fun and that's funny.
- 1:05:37This this mascot thing has gone like way too far.
- 1:05:40But you know what?
- 1:05:40I expect this from the broadcaster who has no problem doing AI slop everywhere too.
- 1:05:45Like it's a whole rant about my my honestly, if I were a CFL player, I'd have it in my contract.
- 1:05:50They're not allowed to make AI slot videos of me.
- 1:05:52Because it just it it's it's really bad.
- 1:05:56really bad.
- 1:05:58And so this Kate stuff is just kinda like AS slop in real time.
- 1:06:01Like I just feel like that it's like lowest common denominator and you can be funnier with better material.
- 1:06:07Thank you for that, MJ.
- 1:06:09Seriously, I I that was not an angle I saw on it at all and and you're right.
- 1:06:14I should have seen it that way.
- 1:06:15So thank you for taking the time to to express it.
- 1:06:18I appreciate that.
- 1:06:19I don't mean to like you people are allowed to like find what this funny is funny, but I mean like just there's there's just Yeah.
- 1:06:29I am seriously, I appreciate that.
- 1:06:32But I will go on to the rest of the game so that we can go back to to chuckling and stuff.
- 1:06:38talking about the line play, GT.
- 1:06:41I got end zone tickets for this one specifically because I wanted to be able to see what was happening, and it's so much easier to see what's going on with the line there.
- 1:06:50The
- 1:06:52Lions got more pressure on VA, but they also got lucky.
- 1:06:57neither team ran a lot of games.
- 1:07:00I'll say that off the start.
- 1:07:01Most of them were going just straight ahead, bull rush, speed rush, stuff like that.
- 1:07:04There were some stunts and twists, but not a lot.
- 1:07:07They the Lions got at least one sack on VA where they ran a stunt and the the D end came inside and sacked VA.
- 1:07:17If he hadn't made that hit, if VA was able to spin out of it, the tackle did not get outside for contain.
- 1:07:24And and I saw that repeatedly.
- 1:07:26There were when they did run the stunts, they were just they weren't being run terribly well.
- 1:07:31Calgary ran a couple of twists inside and I think they got a sack off one.
- 1:07:34BC Betts got his second sack in four games, but again they got it by putting him inside, letting him go for I think it was they went the B gap between
- 1:07:44Yeah, tackle and guard there, but he's not he's not really causing a lot of havoc out of his normal DN spot.
- 1:07:50So I was not not terribly impressed with that.
- 1:07:53And like I said, that I thought the Calgary O line could have played better, but I think the the sack total favored BC in terms of what they should have had.
- 1:08:05They it could have a couple of those sacks could have gone very wrong for them as well.
- 1:08:10So just for whatever that's worth that I that's like I said, that's part of what I like being able to get in and and see from the from the end zone with it.
- 1:08:18And I thought there was maybe that's about it.
- 1:08:21Yeah.
- 1:08:21this was yeah, that's the other thing that was disappointing in this game, the penalties.
- 1:08:26Calgary had seven for seventy eight, I think it was, but BC is ten for a hundred and eighteen, and it's just sloppy stuff
- 1:08:35The fact that it's not happening in most of the other games, when it does happen, it really stands out to me.
- 1:08:40Like I said, no other g there wasn't another game that had over a hundred yards for any one team and I think one of them was under a hundred total, so
- 1:08:48Well, you know, the refs had to travel to Kelowna too, so I'm glad they had to like put some work in and keep busy.
- 1:08:54Made it worth going.
- 1:08:55Yeah.
- 1:08:56Yeah.
- 1:08:56Maybe the refs are out partying too, you know.
- 1:08:59Yes.
- 1:09:01Yeah.
- 1:09:03Yes.
- 1:09:04Well, and Calgary obviously had fun, but maybe they saved their partying fun for Saturday night rather than Friday night.
- 1:09:11Now we're not saying the lions went out partying Friday night.
- 1:09:14We don't know that.
- 1:09:15But but it's possible.
- 1:09:17And and they did they they were downtown Friday night, we know, because they were talking about from the the panel.
- 1:09:24in on the waterfront down clona about the Lions being all there and there was a kickoff concert with Alan Doyle there that they may have been at so yeah who knows.
- 1:09:33But that was it.
- 1:09:35They're they're now 0 and3 and Calgary's got their first win.
- 1:09:40We'll see what where it goes from here.
- 1:09:42The last one seemed like a closer game or the score was closer than the game ever felt to me.
- 1:09:48Ottawa thirty five at Montreal thirty seven.
- 1:09:51There was I thought Yeah, some sloppy play on both sides.
- 1:09:57I do think everyone that's that's being
- 1:10:00Um being complimentary of Ottawa about how well their offense suddenly did and maybe they're putting it together, we need to remember that Montreal both their cornerbacks were
- 1:10:10backups.
- 1:10:11Both their starting corners were out.
- 1:10:13And that did hurt them somewhat.
- 1:10:15mind you, they did play a little bit sloppy too, and it looked like Alexander got hurt once or twice and everybody held their breath again.
- 1:10:23But you, MJ, you wanna start on this one?
- 1:10:26I was at a basketball game and I didn't actually get to watch this guy.
- 1:10:30So I watched a little bit of it, but I saw my four points.
- 1:10:33My first one is is the Montreal defense washed?
- 1:10:36Because they were number one in every category last year.
- 1:10:41Every single category for defense, they were number one.
- 1:10:44And this year they look garbage.
- 1:10:46Well, like garbage compared to them.
- 1:10:47Like they're they're definitely beatable this year, which is interesting.
- 1:10:52yeah, two, is Alexander hurt because he was limping off the field at the end of the game?
- 1:10:56Was like his knee or his ankle?
- 1:10:58I don't know if there's an injury report for them today.
- 1:11:00I'm sure he's playing.
- 1:11:01I'm sure he's playing, but Okay.
- 1:11:06yeah, that's right.
- 1:11:06Okay, so he's got like a bye week to rest that ankle up.
- 1:11:10three, are we wrong about Mare?
- 1:11:12Dull.
- 1:11:13I there was one point where he had more yardage than Alexander in that game.
- 1:11:17and then four, Castantonis had a really nice suit of our panel.
- 1:11:22Yes.
- 1:11:24Well, the the the other thing I'll say with Mayor is he owes an awful lot of credit for that game to his O line and the extra blockers they were bringing in 'cause Noel Thorpe
- 1:11:37was was bringing the house almost every play for it felt like at least a quarter of the game in or continuously and they were picking it up and he was getting the passes out.
- 1:11:46So
- 1:11:47I wondered about that a little bit, but
- 1:11:49Well, I thought um it was a tail of two halves, so to speak, because Montreal looked really good in the first half and then kinda let up in the second half and then just
- 1:11:59scored a touchdown to win when they needed to in the fourth quarter.
- 1:12:02and Ottawa looked horrible in the first half Mare was terrible.
- 1:12:06I mean the first long pass he tried to throw, interception on the goal line, killed a drive, took away all the momentum.
- 1:12:12Welcome to the Jake Mare experience in the first quarter of the game, right?
- 1:12:16Just when you need him to g to throw an interception, he will, you know, so don't worry, he will.
- 1:12:21yeah.
- 1:12:22So so it was Jake Mare at his best or worst, however you want to classify it in the first half.
- 1:12:28And the second half, it looked like Ottawa made some adjustments and Montreal wasn't ready for Ottawa to make adjustments.
- 1:12:34Yeah.
- 1:12:35That second half is the beginning of the turnaround.
- 1:12:38Because they're three games in.
- 1:12:39So maybe they made some adjustments and maybe they figured it out a little bit that these are the things we need to do better.
- 1:12:46So if for all the Ottawa fans, I hope that's the case.
- 1:12:51But I'm not convinced that's the case.
- 1:12:53because it was one half in, as I say, Montreal had a pretty good lead and looked like they were just chillin'.
- 1:13:00and as you said, old man.
- 1:13:02They had two star uh cornerbacks that hadn't played before, so that also helps.
- 1:13:07You go attack those guys, you're gonna make those kind of passes.
- 1:13:10So and kind of receptions, so American help in the second half.
- 1:13:14But the he was making better decisions and he was making quicker decisions, which is what which is what he's not good at.
- 1:13:20So that was that was a little impressive.
- 1:13:23It almost looked like the first two games he played against Winnipeg went five years ago when everybody thought he was the next greatest thing.
- 1:13:30And Lewis wasn't playing.
- 1:13:32Like that's one of their top receivers too, so
- 1:13:36Pimbleton had a hell of a game, especially on return.
- 1:13:38a hell of a game, yeah.
- 1:13:39He looked like he wanted a win.
- 1:13:41He look he was playing like he wanted a win.
- 1:13:43So yeah.
- 1:13:44Yep.
- 1:13:45to admit yeah.
- 1:13:46got some fire.
- 1:13:47they're still missing some pieces that that that are there that they're not using to their advantage.
- 1:13:52In that they've got some receivers, they've got some playmakers and they're just not using them.
- 1:13:57And even in the second half they're not using them.
- 1:13:59So
- 1:14:00So yeah, there's still opportunity for Ottawa, but as we suspected, it's gonna take a while before those pr growing pains if they if they have the patience to get through the
- 1:14:11growing pains.
- 1:14:12That's my biggest concern.
- 1:14:13That right now it doesn't look like Dinwiddie has enough patience.
- 1:14:16So whether he does or not to get through these growing concerns, to get through, the first half of the season so the second half looks better, much like Edmonton did last year.
- 1:14:24Can he do that?
- 1:14:25Can he do that in Ottawa this year?
- 1:14:27I don't know that he can.
- 1:14:29you think MBT's on the depth chart this weekend?
- 1:14:33I'm sure you will be.
- 1:14:34Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:14:35I was I wasn't sure whether he was on the death chart last weekend.
- 1:14:38I was like, is he dressed already?
- 1:14:39And if he isn't, who do they have dressed if Mare gets injured?
- 1:14:42Like who's next if Mayor gets injured right now?
- 1:14:46That would have been pretty scary.
- 1:14:48So yeah.
- 1:14:50I don't know.
- 1:14:50The the other thing with it was I di it didn't look especially windy or bad weather to me, but they both both kickers mix missed a convert and Maltos missed his first field goal of
- 1:15:01the year, which is needless to say, unusual the first one of the year.
- 1:15:04that's why I thought he was still maybe a little bit injured and then they released Lewis for today, so clearly he's fine.
- 1:15:10But
- 1:15:10Yeah.
- 1:15:12Well that was that was from a fair distance and it just drift I don't know it drifted, but
- 1:15:16I didn't see the distance.
- 1:15:17I just saw like I got a notification while I was at the basketball game that he had missed a field goal and I like, interesting.
- 1:15:23one.
- 1:15:24It was more the converts that surprised me.
- 1:15:26'Cause Lother looked like Lothers looks like like he's been playing better this year and that was not a great miss and then Maltos missing on a convert is just
- 1:15:35Strange.
- 1:15:36Well, you know, the angles at Percival.
- 1:15:38It's like an optical illusion sometimes.
- 1:15:41It's tricky, tricky.
- 1:15:43There yeah.
- 1:15:44So there's obviously something there or Yes.
- 1:15:48Anyway, that was the week that was.
- 1:15:51So going ahead.
- 1:15:53GT, you got some power rankings for us.
- 1:15:55This should be interesting after this week.
- 1:15:57Yeah, I think they are interesting and I have some controversy right off the top.
- 1:16:04Because I'm sure I'm going to make some people angry, but I am still I still have Saskatchewan in first place.
- 1:16:10Uh yeah, I still have Saskatchewan in first place.
- 1:16:15Even the Rider fan is upset at you.
- 1:16:17I'm not upset, I'm surprised.
- 1:16:20and and and I have Edmonton in second place.
- 1:16:23and I think a lot of people would suspect Edmonton should be in first because they're three and versus two and one in for the riders.
- 1:16:31I just again and this might be my own bias, I'm saying it flat out, but I don't think Edmonton has I think Edmonton's kinda still hasn't convinced me that they're they're
- 1:16:41winning be they're winning, but they're not winning with confidence.
- 1:16:45Like I
- 1:16:45They've won close games and they could have lost two of those three games just as easily have won them.
- 1:16:50So I'm not a hundred percent still they still look like they're scrambling.
- 1:16:55They're not looking like they have a plan and executing.
- 1:16:59And Saskatchewan, they came flat against the Argos, but I still think they're a better overall team.
- 1:17:05So at this point in time, I'm still gonna put them first.
- 1:17:08Edmonton is three and so they're second.
- 1:17:10Hamilton is is coming off of a bye.
- 1:17:13They shouldn't lose a place going into a b coming off a bye, but they will because Edmonton is three and oh, so Hamilton is third.
- 1:17:20Toronto is fourth because Toronto is now scoring a lot of points.
- 1:17:24It's pretty tough to stop these guys.
- 1:17:26Everybody's proved that, uh Montreal after that, then Calgary, then Winnipeg, then BC, and then Ottawa in last place.
- 1:17:35and B C is the surprise because as myself, I picked them as you know, going back to be fifteen and three this year, and now they're and three.
- 1:17:45So that is that is that w is way out the window.
- 1:17:49and so I don't it's not it's not too late, but I can't see that and they've got a tough game coming up.
- 1:17:56So yeah, that's gonna be interesting,
- 1:17:59And we don't need the ladies crying 'cause the story's sad.
- 1:18:01It's just what it is.
- 1:18:03It's just what it is.
- 1:18:04So they're in a tough spot, B C.
- 1:18:08I'm a little surprised I gotta say, and I don't know even as a fan if I would have put Saskatchewan over Edmonton because I get what you're saying, but keep in mind Saskatchewan
- 1:18:18had to come back to win both of their games too.
- 1:18:21So they've and come back late.
- 1:18:23So th they've looked good, but they've also had that n third quarter lull that has really hurt them, so hey.
- 1:18:30I'll take it.
- 1:18:32Edmonton wins this weekend, they'll be absolutely in number one in the power rankings.
- 1:18:38and deserve and deserve.
- 1:18:43If if Bo if yeah, if Bo comes out if Bo comes out and crushes again, then yeah, you know what?
- 1:18:49It'll be a tougher decision for sure.
- 1:18:51For sure.
- 1:18:53So
- 1:18:55Alrighty.
- 1:18:55So there they are anyway.
- 1:18:57Please let us know in the comments here, Blue Sky, whatever.
- 1:19:01Wherever you go, you go on the on the podcatchers or even get in touch with us, you know, on some of the other platforms, Gander or Social.
- 1:19:08Let us know what you think of GT's power rankings.
- 1:19:10I'm I'm surprised, but pleasantly so.
- 1:19:13Before we get to the games, I'll just set up what we do know about the injuries so far.
- 1:19:18Um we've got for Toronto at Calgary, they've already basically said who's out and who's available and questionable with Toronto it was really only one injury and that was Dakota
- 1:19:31Shepley on the O line has a back issue.
- 1:19:34He did not participate and he's listed as questionable.
- 1:19:37And with Calgary defensive back Jaden Grant did not participate with an ankle.
- 1:19:42And is questionable.
- 1:19:43So they could still both be in the game.
- 1:19:45We don't know.
- 1:19:46When we get to the rest of the games, we know where they were on the injury reports, but we don't have any word on whether they think they're expected to play or not.
- 1:19:54So Saskatchewan has got a yeah, another laundry list of them, as you said earlier, GT, a bunch of them.
- 1:20:00Dalke who's sort of jack of all trades in the defensive backfield there, and Letcher were both did not participate.
- 1:20:06I don't think we'll see either of them in this week.
- 1:20:10Uh Emilus and Schaefer Baker were both did not participate on the first day of practice on Monday.
- 1:20:16They're both back at limited now.
- 1:20:18So they're limited.
- 1:20:20Lakembo's limited.
- 1:20:21Ouellette is still limited.
- 1:20:23Sad, I never know how to pronounce his name properly.
- 1:20:25From the D line is limited.
- 1:20:27And interestingly enough, a couple of long term injuries.
- 1:20:30I've mentioned last week Benoit Marion was listed as limited at the D end spot.
- 1:20:35And
- 1:20:36Ryder Varga from who they got after Toronto released him for the linebacker is now practicing in a limited uh capacity.
- 1:20:43So he may be back not this week, but down the road a bit.
- 1:20:46On the Ottawa side, nobody was and did not participate, but uh Mardiner is back practicing and was limited in that after his injury last year.
- 1:20:55McEwen, Oppoco and Keelan White were also all limited in practice.
- 1:21:00And then the only other ones we have are Edmonton and BC, because the Hamilton, Winnipeg ones won't start practicing until tomorrow.
- 1:21:07But Edmonton, Mugginson was did not participate.
- 1:21:10And that could be interesting because Anderson is on the sixth game list now.
- 1:21:15So they may be starting to get a little bit thin at uh linebacker if he can't go.
- 1:21:20And then Boyko who less of an impact.
- 1:21:23But Mechie from the back end and Rebostelli were also limited.
- 1:21:26And with BC, TJ Lee and Poissant were did not participate again.
- 1:21:32And Haladic, Renee and Yates from the O line were all limited.
- 1:21:36Now, Yates was listed limited all last week and I think he played anyway, so but that's where we're at as you're making your your game predictions.
- 1:21:44That's what we know right now.
- 1:21:45So let's talk about this.
- 1:21:47Toronto going into Calgary.
- 1:21:50GT, your team we'll let you go first.
- 1:21:53Uh
- 1:21:53It's c it it's shaping up to be a shootout.
- 1:21:55and Calgary's backfield i is in some disarray and uh another injury last week, as you just mentioned.
- 1:22:03So nobody's been able to stop Kelly's yet in three weeks so far, uh putting up lots of yardage and lots of points.
- 1:22:11but I think I think Shepley's injury hurts Toronto even more.
- 1:22:17Uh I think Calgary's defensive line can get after him and put something put pressure on him that he hasn't seen yet.
- 1:22:23So I'm taking Calgary.
- 1:22:26I'm not comfortable, but I'm taking Calgary.
- 1:22:28As an up and I think that's a little bit of an upset.
- 1:22:31In my opinion, that's a little bit of an upset.
- 1:22:33Well, I'll jump in here and say I I agree with probably just about everything you said, except from what I've seen in in the first few weeks, I do think that it favors Toronto a
- 1:22:43little bit.
- 1:22:43It's not I don't think it's gonna be a blowout by any means and it could easily go either way maybe I'm too too still too shell shocked from what they did to the riders, which I
- 1:22:52did not expect at all.
- 1:22:53But I'll go with the with the Argos.
- 1:22:55So MJ, you're the tiebreaker.
- 1:22:56Right, so this is Stamp People.
- 1:22:59Milt's racing a cow.
- 1:23:00World's fastest cow.
- 1:23:01the world's fastest cow and he's not gonna get a head start like the like Enoch needed last he actually made a whole video about how Enoch needed a head start and he does not
- 1:23:12need a head start.
- 1:23:13Stampede Bulls and Intangible.
- 1:23:14I think like Flo is gonna make Kelly's life a misery.
- 1:23:19If Kelly wears that belt buckle, no, VA's not gonna let Kelly wear that buck belt.
- 1:23:24No, he's not giving up that belt buckle.
- 1:23:26We're gonna have another picture of VA in his belt buckle and cowboy boots during Stampede.
- 1:23:31Forget it.
- 1:23:32I'm picking Calgary.
- 1:23:33Okay.
- 1:23:34Yeah, and actually the fact that it is a Stampede Bowl, which seemed like a ridiculous thing to me last year, but it's been embraced there, it may be the difference in let in
- 1:23:43getting Calgary up over the top.
- 1:23:46Like I said, I'm not it's not a confident pick I'm making, but okay, so the podcast has Calgary.
- 1:23:52Then we've got Saskatchewan at Ottawa, and Saskatchewan is injured.
- 1:23:57We don't know
- 1:23:58receivers will be able to play and which won't.
- 1:24:01But I still think Oops, did you lose me again or have I been gone the whole
- 1:24:05card for talking despairingly of the of this Calgary Stampede?
- 1:24:09There, I still don't think that uh Ottawa's up there where they can beat Saskatchewan yet.
- 1:24:14So I'm taking the riders.
- 1:24:17I guess maybe you get to go second, MJ.
- 1:24:19I think let's see Emilus injury is an issue.
- 1:24:24What they play?
- 1:24:25They Toronto made them look silly.
- 1:24:28Not really, but a little bit.
- 1:24:30You know what?
- 1:24:31I'm going for chaos this week.
- 1:24:32I think I think there's enough players on the red blacks that mean business that they might be able to eke this out.
- 1:24:42I think it'll be close.
- 1:24:43I think it'll be close, but I think they the way they are playing, I
- 1:24:48If Mare can keep it together, there's enough people playing well on that team that they might be able to pull it off.
- 1:24:55Yeah, their defense has been playing better and there's what, uh I think three of last year's Rough Riders on the defense, so
- 1:25:01Yeah, and yeah.
- 1:25:02And Pimpleton'll probably return a touchdown, it'll be fun, it'll be an entertaining game.
- 1:25:07Hopefully.
- 1:25:08It's probably gonna be raining.
- 1:25:10It's in Ottawa.
- 1:25:12Yeah.
- 1:25:12Yeah.
- 1:25:13No, I'm taking the Riders.
- 1:25:14They Ottawa's just not good enough.
- 1:25:16Riders are still a much, much better team.
- 1:25:19Okay.
- 1:25:19Yeah.
- 1:25:20And uh maybe we'll get MJ to go on this one again.
- 1:25:23We'll get we'll let you go first on the last two 'cause you live in Edmonton and you're a Hamilton fan.
- 1:25:28So Edmonton at BC
- 1:25:30Well, so this is interesting 'cause this is week two at Touchdown Kelowna and BC's gonna be pretty upset they got shown the door in in their big they in touchdown Kelowna.
- 1:25:41I looked up they do not have a special teams coordinator named.
- 1:25:45So is it just like random assistant that's been working with the special teams?
- 1:25:50I don't know.
- 1:25:51They still are bad on defense.
- 1:25:53They are still bad on offense.
- 1:25:55They are bad at all three phases of the game.
- 1:25:58I have no faith really that they can solve Rankin.
- 1:26:03There are teams that I think can shut Rankin down.
- 1:26:06I'm not convinced this BC defense can do that right now with Benavides.
- 1:26:09I don't think he's gonna scheme for that well enough.
- 1:26:12but it is like kinda like Stampede Bowl It's a bit of an intangible.
- 1:26:16They're there all week, they're practicing there all week, but
- 1:26:19my gosh, it's so weird.
- 1:26:21The elks are three and and they look good and I think you know, I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick the elks.
- 1:26:28Okay.
- 1:26:28Well I will I will go next here and I and I will say that the one thing the BC defense has done well is against the run.
- 1:26:35So the there is that.
- 1:26:37But I still I think it's just too much of a too much of a mess otherwise for them to to pull it out.
- 1:26:44And Edmonton, while they have looked like they're clawing and scratching for everything they can get to get to the wins, they're winning.
- 1:26:51So I'll
- 1:26:51I'll pick the elk as well.
- 1:26:53How about you, GT?
- 1:26:54Unanimous or are you going against the flow?
- 1:26:57No, absolutely unanimous.
- 1:26:58Uh I agree with you a hundred percent.
- 1:27:00Uh for everything that I said about Edmonton, they're still winning and uh BC is still losing and so it means Edmonton's gonna win.
- 1:27:08Okay, full agreement on that one.
- 1:27:11And the last one, Winnipeg going into Hamilton.
- 1:27:14Winnipeg has done well in Hamilton in the past couple of years.
- 1:27:17What do you think, MJ?
- 1:27:19Not this year.
- 1:27:20Bo is not interested in that.
- 1:27:24And they're coming off the bye.
- 1:27:27The bombers.
- 1:27:28You try and fumble five times against the Tie Cats this year and see how you do.
- 1:27:33Nuh uh picking Tie Cats.
- 1:27:36Okay.
- 1:27:37GT?
- 1:27:38Yeah, this is a game that for the first time I will say this year that I don't think this is even close.
- 1:27:44I think this is this is Hamilton in a walk on.
- 1:27:48I think this is Hamilton in a lark.
- 1:27:50This is like a big game for Hamilton and Winnipeg gets to come up on, so to speak.
- 1:27:55And yeah, I think this is where win we learn that Winnipeg's not as good as we or or is the kinda the level we thought they were, which is not that great.
- 1:28:04And Hamilton is yeah, is pretty darn good.
- 1:28:06So yeah.
- 1:28:07I'm picking Hamilton with a big win.
- 1:28:10Yes.
- 1:28:11And see, I've been around the CFL chaos long enough to know that when I expect a big win, it doesn't happen.
- 1:28:16But I still can't take Winnipeg.
- 1:28:18I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Hamilton.
- 1:28:20It was funny la last week we we all you the two of you picked Winnipeg over Edmonton and I had Edmonton.
- 1:28:28And so they won and I thought, great start to the week.
- 1:28:30But then I immediately thought, but damn, I never go 4-0.
- 1:28:33There's something I've missed.
- 1:28:35What's it gonna be?
- 1:28:36I hope it's not the riders.
- 1:28:38Three and one.
- 1:28:38Thanks, Riders.
- 1:28:39and I will also say here, just for anybody that's still with us, MJ's mentioned a couple of times about the Lions staying and practicing here in Kelowna.
- 1:28:48They're doing that, but they've also they have done I am so impressed with the that organization and what they're doing.
- 1:28:54as well as practicing, they've got players out in the um in some events in City Park.
- 1:29:00or in one of the parks, I'm not sure which one it is.
- 1:29:03I think it's the downtown city park for autograph signings almost every afternoon of the week.
- 1:29:07a couple of different sessions a day.
- 1:29:09They're getting out with youth football and girls flag football teams and putting on clinics with them while they're here.
- 1:29:16They're just they're really increasing their exposure.
- 1:29:18So great job to the the Lions.
- 1:29:21Thank you for what you've been doing for football in this area.
- 1:29:26All right.
- 1:29:26That's about it.
- 1:29:29What do you think?
- 1:29:30GT, time to say goodnight?
- 1:29:32What do you got for us?
- 1:29:33am.
- 1:29:33em
- 1:29:38uh I will say this before I sign off, in that you can always find me occasionally, not always, but occasionally you can find me at GT Barnum on blueskies dot social dot net.
- 1:29:50I believe is its full thing.
- 1:29:52I finally figured it out.
- 1:29:53And I had dropped uh two sets of lyrics tonight, just so you know, they're in there.
- 1:29:59They're and they're from the same song.
- 1:30:01So that I double dipped.
- 1:30:03I double dipped and you can find them if you can find them.
- 1:30:06and and it's you know, it Kelowna last week, Kelowna this week, and I'm looking forward to it's about wine country.
- 1:30:13So there you go.
- 1:30:14Yes.
- 1:30:15Okay, MJ.
- 1:30:17Yeah, I am looking forward to both kinds of football this weekend.
- 1:30:21Um Cheering you on Team Canada.
- 1:30:26You can find me running Instagram, CFL Outsiders, um keep your comments coming, we're having fun over there.
- 1:30:32And yeah, you can find me on Blueskay at Sports and Plants.
- 1:30:37Alrighty.
- 1:30:39And thank you both for another great show.
- 1:30:41It's uh for whatever it's worth, I really enjoy doing this with the two of you.
- 1:30:46It it honestly is one of the highlights of my week.
- 1:30:50This is so much fun.
- 1:30:51So so thank you for for all that you bring to this.
- 1:30:54I'm uh you find me of course on Blue Sky uh old man dash sac dot blue sky dot social and
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- 1:31:11And frankly, I'm just I'm looking forward to the second time in a week that I can drive a half hour and go to a CFL football game.
- 1:31:21And it's being such a treat for for those of us stuck out here in the hinterlands.
- 1:31:27Okay, so before you before you sign off, old man, I just want to say one more thing because I forgot to say this in mine.
- 1:31:34And I just want to say to everybody across, you know, the world listening, happy Canada Day.
- 1:31:40It is already that.
- 1:31:42It is already that here where I am.
- 1:31:45And uh we made it through another year.
- 1:31:47Congratulations to the everybody in the country for sticking through it.
- 1:31:52And yeah, happy Canada Day.
- 1:31:54Enjoy, celebrate, be careful with the fireworks.
- 1:31:57They can be dangerous.
- 1:31:58They're tons of fun, but they can be dangerous.
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- 1:32:02Enjoy yourselves.
- 1:32:03Have a couple of pops or whatever other libration you do.
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- 1:32:15Enjoy.
- 1:32:16Go to a football game.
- 1:32:18That's what I wanted say.
- 1:32:20Well said.
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- 1:33:00So I guess tomorrow when you're hearing this with the with the fantasy show for the week.
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