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11-09-26 Hour 3 - No Broncos "buts" today/Are Deion's days done?, Keys to the Game/NFL odds and ends · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: First down for Carolina. Young in the pocket.
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  Speaker 3: That ball's free.
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  Speaker 2: He was trying to throw it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Nick Bonito gets there.
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  Speaker 2: And the Denver Broncos have won their 16th straight one-score
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  Speaker 2: game in the regular season. That is a new NFL record.
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  Speaker 2: Victory formation, it's over. Denver 26, Carolina 21.
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  Speaker 3: Torelli House football Monday as the Broncos win again heading
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  Speaker 3: into the bye week. I know there's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times that we have jumped on this show. I
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  Speaker 3: have jumped on this show on Monday after a Broncos
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  Speaker 3: game and said, yeah, they won, but well, guess what?
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  Speaker 3: There's no butts today. I think that's a great win.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the Panthers are a better team than
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  Speaker 3: they're given credit for.
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  Speaker 4: Number one.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, you've taken all the factors that went into
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  Speaker 3: this game. Emotional high that you're riding off of beating
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs last week and jumping back on top of
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  Speaker 3: the AFC West. You're traveling to the East Coast early
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  Speaker 3: morning game, always difficult for West Coast teams. You got
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  Speaker 3: the bye week coming up where you can see a
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  Speaker 3: light at the end of the tunnel to get some
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  Speaker 3: guys rested. In the middle of the game, you lose
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  Speaker 3: your second best corner to a concussion. You lose your
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  Speaker 3: best receiver to a concussion. And at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day, you find the requisite plays to win a
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  Speaker 3: football game.
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  Speaker 2: On the road.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a great win. I have no complaints.
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  Speaker 3: I think the offense was fine. I think they were fine.
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  Speaker 3: Made some throws downfield early. I'm feeling good about where
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos are at.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you have the second
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  Speaker 2: best record in the conference. You have the most wins
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  Speaker 2: in the conference. At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps at the end of tonight, you could be the
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  Speaker 3: best in the conference.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you've won five in
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  Speaker 2: a row. At the end of the day, you've won
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  Speaker 2: 16 one-score games in a row. At the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, you are exactly what you're supposed to do.
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  Speaker 2: You are a winner in the National Football League, which
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  Speaker 2: is very difficult to pull off. You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the numbers, and the numbers lie. They
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  Speaker 2: don't mean a damn thing. So the Broncos lose total yards,
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  Speaker 2: fewer yards, fewer yards passing, fewer yards running. But the
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  Speaker 2: one ingredient that they've added to the team this year
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  Speaker 2: that they didn't have last year, what is the one
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  Speaker 2: special ingredient they possess that's allowed them to pull this off?
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  Speaker 2: What is it? Turnovers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Turnovers. They're getting turnovers. That's the one thing last year's
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  Speaker 2: defense struggled with. Remember, they couldn't take away the ball. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was a problem. You're like, man, they're stopping teams.
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  Speaker 2: They just can't get the ball. Well, this year they're
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  Speaker 2: getting the ball. And it's making a difference. Yesterday when
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  Speaker 2: things got tough and it got close, Nick Bonito pulled
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  Speaker 2: a Von Miller and got the ball.
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  Speaker 3: So the Broncos this year, let's see total where they rank.
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  Speaker 3: They are tied for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
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  Speaker 3: 7th in the league in takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: They have 12.
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  Speaker 3: Turnover differential. They are sixth at a plus five. You're
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  Speaker 3: absolutely right, Vic, because last year.
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  Speaker 2: They were near the bottom of the league last year
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  Speaker 2: with that incredible defense.
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  Speaker 3: They had 14 takeaways the entire season. They're at 12
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  Speaker 3: halfway through the year, a little over halfway. Big time difference.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing they've added, the element they've added to
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  Speaker 2: this team. And you know what it also does? It
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  Speaker 2: masks a lot of the inefficiencies. Sure, they're giving up
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  Speaker 2: more yards. Sure, they are. They're minus 688 in yards.
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  Speaker 2: minus 688, a 7-2 team.
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  Speaker 3: How?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're getting the ball. You're getting the rock this year.
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  Speaker 2: Turning it over.
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  Speaker 3: There's something else, by the way, and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: the answer of this. I'm looking this up on the fly,
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  Speaker 3: but I feel like my eyes would not be lying
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  Speaker 3: to me. They have to be one of the best
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  Speaker 3: red zone defenses in the league, too. Because it feels
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  Speaker 3: like if they need to stiffen up, yeah, they're 10th
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  Speaker 3: in the league in red zone percentage.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Carolina was three for four in the red zone yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of that ridiculous play.
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  Speaker 3: I would say this, though, Vic. Here's, I think, the
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  Speaker 3: greatest asset that this team has. And it applies to
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  Speaker 3: both the offense and the defense. If you give the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos an inch, they take a mile.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You give them, they get the ball that bounces off
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  Speaker 3: Tommy Tremble's hands, bounces up to Devon Key. Nobody knew
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  Speaker 3: it was a pick. Turns out it was. Controversy. Did
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  Speaker 3: they run a play afterwards before the challenge came in?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton threw the flag before the play.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Bottom line is, they make a stop. And what does
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  Speaker 3: the offense do? Drive, march down the field, 80 yards, touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: take the lead back. Every instance in which you give
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  Speaker 3: them a sliver of an opportunity to kill you, they
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  Speaker 3: take it.
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  Speaker 2: Brett, the Denver Broncos know how to win. What is
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  Speaker 2: your talent? What do you know how to do? What
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  Speaker 2: do you know how to do? What are you? Speak.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Nelly, what do you know how to do?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Mosher says I can play the flute.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. This team knows how to win. Now, you may
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  Speaker 2: not like how they win. You may be critical of
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  Speaker 2: how they win. You may look at how they win
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  Speaker 2: and call it a fluke, whatever, but they know how
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  Speaker 2: to win that. You can't do it this many times
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  Speaker 2: over the course of two seasons and raise a flag
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  Speaker 2: and say, not, not, it's not real. Cause it is.
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  Speaker 3: NFL record, NFL record, 16 consecutive wins. When the score
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  Speaker 3: is decided by one score. Um, now obviously that's regular
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  Speaker 3: season doesn't include the playoffs. Cause you had the loss
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  Speaker 3: to the, to the Patriots, but, um, What I think,
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  Speaker 3: everything you said is right, Vic. I just feel like
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  Speaker 3: yesterday is just a damn good win. And I'm telling
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  Speaker 3: you guys, that's a game I think a lot of teams,
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  Speaker 3: good teams in this league, if put in a similar situation,
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  Speaker 3: lose that game. I'm just telling you. I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them go into it. Maybe they look ahead
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  Speaker 3: to the bye week. Maybe they don't take the Panthers seriously. Like, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a game that a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: in the league would lose.
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  Speaker 2: I told you last week how much this game scared me.
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  Speaker 2: It just did going into this week of rest.
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  Speaker 3: But what do you fall back on, Vic? And this
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  Speaker 3: is the tried and true, best statistic, best asset of
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  Speaker 3: a Sean Payton coach team. They do not lose games
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  Speaker 3: that they're supposed to win.
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  Speaker 2: Ever.
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  Speaker 3: Like, ever. When they go into a game and they
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  Speaker 3: are the clear favorite, they are the clear better team,
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  Speaker 3: they go out and they get a dub.
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  Speaker 2: Especially against the NF South. Look it up. What is
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton's record against his old division?
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  Speaker 3: As a Broncos head coach?
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  Speaker 2: As a Broncos head coach. Sean Payton versus the NFC South.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's one thing we overlooked last week when
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  Speaker 2: we thought about this game. Going east, having to play
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  Speaker 2: the 11 a.m. trap game.
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  Speaker 3: That would make them 5-0 so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't lose to these games. He doesn't lose them.
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  Speaker 3: He swept them in 2024 and now 1-0 against the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why. And before you say, wow, you
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  Speaker 2: just can't cherry-pick stats. Yeah, I can. I can cherry-pick
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  Speaker 2: whatever the hell I want to cherry-pick. They've won 16
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  Speaker 2: one-score games. Am I cherry-picking or am I giving you
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  Speaker 2: a trend?
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  Speaker 3: I'll say this, too. Look, we know there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of room for improvement on the offensive side of the
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  Speaker 3: football in both the run and pass game. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that game was totally fine from the offense. I think
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  Speaker 3: they pushed the ball downfield early. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: say something stupid, Vic, so go ahead and slap me
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  Speaker 3: if you want to. The throw that was intercepted, you
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  Speaker 3: get the rare pick from Bo Nix in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't happen all that often.
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  Speaker 2: I actually don't mind it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mind it.
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  Speaker 2: I told you.
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  Speaker 3: It was a good defensive play, number one. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a great thrown ball, but I like the willingness to
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  Speaker 3: try and make the throw.
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  Speaker 2: I've told you that before. I don't mind it occasionally,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you're trying to push it down the field.
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  Speaker 2: But did you watch Caleb Williams last night?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: On a couple occasions, you're like, okay, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, enough.
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  Speaker 2: We get it. And that's where I was like, you
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  Speaker 2: need a little more Bo Nix in you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you don't want, I understand, you don't want your
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  Speaker 3: interception to come in the red zone, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: happened on that drive. I get it. But I think
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  Speaker 3: there was a hesitancy to even attempt to make a
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  Speaker 3: throw like that, that he's now, I think, becoming more confident.
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  Speaker 3: I think you saw it, Vic, very beginning of that game.
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  Speaker 3: Does that look like a much more confident Bo Nix
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  Speaker 3: than five weeks ago?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're letting him throw it vertically.
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  Speaker 3: Is it letting or is it him doing it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. See, that's the question I cannot answer.
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  Speaker 2: And I may not be able to answer it all year.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know. And that's where when you say, what
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  Speaker 2: do the Broncos need? What do the Broncos need? We
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  Speaker 2: talked to Adam Schefter. If you missed that interview early,
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  Speaker 2: he said that tight end and safety, believe it or not,
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  Speaker 2: could be targets for the Broncos before this deadline. And
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  Speaker 2: my thing about the tight end, I would love another
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  Speaker 2: tight end. I would love a, you know, name who's
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  Speaker 2: the guy in Indy? Who's the... The Penn State guy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Tyler Warren?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would love a guy like that. Doesn't mean you're
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  Speaker 2: going to use him, though. It doesn't mean you're going
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  Speaker 2: to use him correctly. It's a dependent position. Right?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to look something up because in talking
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  Speaker 3: about tight ends, it would be like, well, who is
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  Speaker 3: it going to be? It could be maybe a Dallas
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  Speaker 3: Goddard out of Philly because Philly season is kind of going.
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe him.
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  Speaker 2: So does that make Evan Ingram just expendable? What do
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  Speaker 2: you do with him? Because he. Like, what does that
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  Speaker 2: mean for him?
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, man, about Ingram. We've had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games for him to show the kind of impact
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  Speaker 3: he can make. Just hasn't happened. He had some catches
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  Speaker 3: in that game yesterday. Pretty good catches.
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  Speaker 2: Does it happen because he doesn't get the ball or
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  Speaker 2: because they don't throw him the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Unanswerable.
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  Speaker 2: See, and that's what I get. You might go get
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  Speaker 2: a guy that is a productive tight end, but you
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  Speaker 2: got to get him the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Vic, one thing has been clear here. Maybe this
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  Speaker 3: is the answer that you're looking for. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what the snap count was last week. Adam Troutman has
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  Speaker 3: been taking a lot of those snaps at tight end
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  Speaker 3: over Evan Ingram lately.
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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he had the most snaps of any tight end,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, the last two games, which maybe tells you
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  Speaker 3: how they feel about Evan Ingram right now. I was
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  Speaker 3: just out of curiosity. Kyle Pitts just signed an extension
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  Speaker 3: this offseason with the Falcons. Three years, $ 54 million. $ 18
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  Speaker 3: million a year. It's a lot of money for tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: $ 36 million guarantee.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the dead cap would be if
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  Speaker 3: they'd want to move a guy like him, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: just trying to think, like, who would be the guy
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  Speaker 3: that they're kind of looking for to get an improvement
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  Speaker 3: if they are in the tight end market? Like, we know,
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  Speaker 3: Schefter told us, they made a phone call to Arizona
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  Speaker 3: about Trey McBride, and basically were greeted with two middle
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  Speaker 3: fingers saying, don't call again. The other thing is, what
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  Speaker 3: are you willing to give up? Like, Vic, let's say this.
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  Speaker 1: I have two middle fingers.
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  Speaker 3: If You call the Cardinals, they go, he's not available.
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  Speaker 3: And you really wanted Trey McBride? What are you willing
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  Speaker 3: to throw at them to get their attention?
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  Speaker 2: The best tight end in the game right now?
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  Speaker 3: Multiple firsts?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's worth. I couldn't even give
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  Speaker 2: you a value.
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  Speaker 3: But is this another thing? Let me say this in
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  Speaker 3: regards to, like, we were talking about running backs. Let's
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  Speaker 3: make a tight end. We're asking the question, is the
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  Speaker 3: lack of production from the tight end position a player
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  Speaker 3: problem or a willingness to get the ball the guy problem, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If Trey McBride's on your team, there's no question that
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  Speaker 3: he gets the football, correct?
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  Speaker 2: There's no question that you have to somehow feature him.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, it's on the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So then that becomes, well, it's not about the
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  Speaker 3: scheme or the plays that you're calling or whatever. It
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  Speaker 3: becomes this guy gets the football because this guy's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it crystallizes the true problem. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? If you get a guy like that and
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  Speaker 2: his numbers drop precipitously, Then what's the problem?
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  Speaker 3: There's just, there's no way that can be possible. The
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals offense isn't good, bro. And they still find a
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  Speaker 3: way to get them 100 yards a game. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? There's no way that would be an issue.
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  Speaker 2: I would still be more comfortable if someone said, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: what's your primary target? I'd be more comfortable with something
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  Speaker 2: that would make your run game more consistent. Me too.
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  Speaker 2: Because yesterday I saw Broncos run running back carry it
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  Speaker 2: 17 times, which I think is high this year for
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  Speaker 2: any Bronco runner. Correct? 17 carries for Jonah Coleman?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he only averaged 3.4?
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  Speaker 3: And that number stuck around whether it's Coleman, whether it's Dobbins,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's whoever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you say, well, give him the ball more. Let
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  Speaker 2: him establish himself. They did. And he's fine. He's fine.
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  Speaker 3: He's fine.
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  Speaker 2: He's fine. I want great. Yeah. Here's what I want.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I want. When you need to run for
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  Speaker 2: a first down, you'll line up two tight ends and
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  Speaker 2: you're running back and you don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: pitching it. You just line up and run.
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  Speaker 3: One, one thing that killed me, Vic first drive of
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  Speaker 3: the game, moving the football. Well, get inside the five
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  Speaker 3: yard line. You're stuffed on runs. Then you take a
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  Speaker 3: delay game penalty like that just to kick off the game.
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  Speaker 3: It's like everything was going so well, but it feels
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  Speaker 3: like when you have to run the football, you can't,
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  Speaker 3: I think a great back maybe changes that. Um, Did
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  Speaker 3: you know that the Broncos are still one of five
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  Speaker 3: teams in the NFL that have not had an opening
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  Speaker 3: drive touchdown yet this year? There's only five of them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who the other four are, but it
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  Speaker 3: kind of tells you early in games they struggle. But again,
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  Speaker 3: I thought the offense was fine yesterday. And if you
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  Speaker 3: could get somebody that makes it better than fine, I
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  Speaker 3: would be all ears.
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  Speaker 3: Reminder to you guys. The Nuggets are back from Mexico
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure who's playing for the Nuggets in
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  Speaker 2: that game tonight.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a second. We got keys
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit as they take on Houston. And
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  Speaker 3: we have no idea who's going to play for them
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  Speaker 3: because they were, I mean, it just seemed like a
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  Speaker 3: nightmare trying to get out of Mexico City. Couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this, though, Vic. As the Broncos continue,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: they head into the bye week 7-2. It's remarkable, is
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: it not? We all thought that having a similar record
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: to last year, 14-3, would be an impossibility. That's how
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: it felt to me. I'm like, they could be the
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: same level of team and be 11-6. You know what
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? The fact that they're here again, you said it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: What do the Broncos do? What do they do best?
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: They win. They win football games.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: They just do.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: That's why Mosher's reaction before he left us this morning
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: was so out of left field. He came in, oh,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. Science does. Mosher, we're
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: past this. What are you talking about?
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: And that game was not on the chart of weird
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that the Broncos have won over the last couple years.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: That was standard. That was standard practice.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Felt like a normal NFL game that you'd watch. You
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: make some mistakes. You capitalize on some mistake.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I just tell you, this team is.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a team that they line
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: up against anymore where I'm like, I don't think they win.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just always going to believe that this team wins. Always.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: And they have so many different people they can rely on.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: The big thing that I'd point out, and this is
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: why I think the next 24 to 30 whatever hours
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: it is before this deadline are so important. There's two
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: areas on this team that I felt like has stepped
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: up in huge ways due to depth. The secondary, being
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: able to hold it together with the amount of injuries
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: they've suffered this year. Remember, multiple games without Sertan, multiple
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: games without Moss, multiple games without both their safeties, Hufong
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and Brandon Jones, and they've been able to hold it together.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe not play to the elite level that we're used to,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: but hold it together. Secondly, how about Pat Bryant getting
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: back in the lineup? And, you know, you lose Jalen
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Waddell in that, but you see Troy Franklin making some plays.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Pat Bryant makes some plays. One thing I loved over
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, what they're doing. Have you
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: noticed if they leave Cortland Sutton in one-on-one opportunities, Bo
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Nix is now throwing him the football thinking it's going
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to be either a catch, an incompletion, or a penalty.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: In the back shoulder. Yep. Just give it to him.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Let him make a play. Totally agree with you. Why
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you do that?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Use that big body.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Finally.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: It has to be a season-high target. Let me look
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: it up because he had nine in the game yesterday.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Heck, that might be a total of what he had
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the first three weeks.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, by far his most targeted game of the season.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Next closest was seven. Get him in one-on-one situations. Let
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: him go make a play for you. Now to some
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: other things that happened over the weekend. I do want
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: to go back to this real quick. This is Deion postgame.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Not happy. The message was, and I heard Joseph saying
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: it in the locker room, we ain't got time to
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: have no pity party. Play Friday. We don't have time.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: We don't have time for it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Or if.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: My message was if anybody's in that locker room that's
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: not hurting right now, this ain't the sport for you.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: This is the wrong sport. It's the wrong game. It's
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: the wrong team. It's the wrong everything. This is not
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: how it's supposed to be. And we apologize a thousand
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: times to the fan base, to you all, But unless
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: we get it together, it's going to be the same old,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: same old. And that's pathetic because the fan bases are better.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: They really do.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is finally hitting the breaking point.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: And this experiment that's taken place, they had a good
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: year in 2024, went 9-3. But if you remember, Vic,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: even in that season, they had a late loss to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Kansas where they looked like they were on track to
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: play in the Big 12 championship game. That derailed those hopes.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: But if you ignore that year, you're talking about a
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: four-win season that you won three of your first four games.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: In 2025, a three-win season. This year, probably what, at best,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: four wins? Maybe you get a win against UCF at
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the end of the year.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know where you go from here.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: All right, help me understand something, because I'm having issues
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: with this. The talent is on the team because you
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: have to possess some talent. If you take a team
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: like Utah to the brink... they lost to Utah 27-24.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Remember that game?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Late comeback, but yes.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But it was a close game.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: They played Utah better than a lot of teams have. Hell,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: did they play them just better than BYU just did?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Utah is going to be ranked top three tomorrow night
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: when the CFP comes out.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Might jump. The two now with Miami losing.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me that a team that
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: takes Utah to the brink is in this dire straits?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I can't make sense of it. I just don't know
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: what to do with the information.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Well, they have some talented guys on the roster, which
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: is even more confusing. Joseph Williams is a good player.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: He's a good player. They have people on defense who,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I think their defense is pretty damn good, Vic.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: They have been. They're 3-6. I mean, bowl games, it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: not going to happen. You're not going to win out here.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You're just not. Houston is ranked 17th in the country.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Good luck with that. You're at Cincinnati. We've already seen
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati upset better teams. And then you're at home against UCF.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We've seen UCF upset better teams. It would take something
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: miraculous for them to get to six wins.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we talked to Chad Brown on Thursdays. Can
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I read, this is long, but can I read you
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: his tweet that he sent out after the game?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read it. It was pretty thorough.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: We are such an unserious program. Flashes without any real consistency.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: The issues that plague this team fall on the head
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: coach and the lack of effort to properly prepare this team.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: When your first four drives are all three and outs,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that's coaching. When your quarterback takes a 24-yard sack and
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: fourth down, that's coaching. When your quarterback has more interceptions
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: than touchdowns, yet you ask him to throw it 31 times,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: that's coaching. When you're the most penalized team in the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Big 12, that's coaching. When you go into halftime with
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: two timeouts while being down 17 to nothing, that's coaching.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: When you run the same play a second time and
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the defense is ready for it and picks you off,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that's coaching. When you don't get your first third down
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: conversion until the third quarter, that's coaching. When your only
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: touchdown comes after the opponent roughs your kicker, that's coaching.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I see the effort from the players. Just wish this
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: coach and his staff matched the effort. That's pretty damning
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: from a former player.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of feedback saying, well, why don't the
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: players take some ownership and the blame, you know, especially
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the guys that transferred in the portal and, the comeback
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to that would be very simple. You are in charge
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of who you bring in here. This isn't the NFL
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: where coaches are handed players and said, go. You ultimately are,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you're picking, you're doing the grocery shopping here.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But there are games that they have lost in which
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: you can point directly to the coaching aspect of it
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and be like, that is a major factor in why
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: you did it. Let me ask you a question, just
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a very simple one. How many games would you say
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: this season CU has the advantage in the coaching department?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they beat Georgia Tech on the road.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Point is, not very often though, right?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you can't just suddenly use coaching
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: as a con when you beat a team. So did
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: they out-coach Georgia Tech?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Like a pro and con, you mean? Yeah. I get it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: There are, I think, multiple instances in which you can
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: see the very basic tenets of coaching. One of them
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: that he is so right about, Chad Brown is, that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: really bothered me. You're down 17-0. You have two timeouts.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Go try and do something, man. What's the worst that
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: can happen? You turn the ball over, big deal, you're
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: down 17-0. Like, what is the point of going into
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: half with two timeouts in your pocket?
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: None.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: But it's not just this season. I remember watching that
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Stanford game a couple years ago. Remember they were up,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: what was it, 27-0, 28-0 on Stanford at the half?
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And lost?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Do you know how hard that is to do?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Especially against Stanford.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. As bad as it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: been for CU, Look up the run for Collins, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: CSU gives up, what was it, 64?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's 68?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It could have been 79.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 64. 64 with 669 yards of offense.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Who's worse off right now? And you have to factor in,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know, how much you're putting into the program, cost, time,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I would assume that that's... Who's worse off?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Probably CU, just given all of what you mentioned. The
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: other thing is, Vic, there's a difference between a team
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: in year four playing like this under a coach and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: a team in year one. Look, neither are great here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: We gave you the stats defensively for CSU. They're 138th
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: out of 138 in college football in yards allowed per
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: game and in points per game, and neither of those
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: stats are close to the 137th team.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Let me read this text from Texter, area code 972.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what area code that is, but that
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: cannot be Colorado. Never heard of 972. I've heard of 970.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Texter writes in, you all keep it up. You're going
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: to run Dion off and back to giving away tickets
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: at King Soopers, 12 a.m. games, empty stands. I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: know what to tell you, bro. I mean, I remember
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: those years. My son was in school there pre-Dion when
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Student section didn't even show up to the games. I
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: get it. I get it. But you're just going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: keep banging your head against the wall?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: How many times do I have to say this until
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: you guys understand it? Having tickets sold, but the product
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: still being bad, makes no difference to me.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: There's no award for that. I don't care. Nebraska sells tickets.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you win an award? What is the award?
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: What is the goal? Look, if I'm running the financial
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: department of CU, then yeah, maybe you can have that
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: discussion with me. I want good football. I want people
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to show up because the team is good. And by
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the way, if Deion does get run off and get
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: out of here, you tell me, is he a coach
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: at the Division I level again?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: How?
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Who'd sign up for that?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this, but we are
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: at 90% capacity over the weekend. That's a big dub.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: The amount of people that say, well, they're selling tickets
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: and they're on TV.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So what? You stink.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Isn't the point of having a college football team to
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: be good at football? Or is it to have a circus,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: a sideshow?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Hello.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: You play to win the game.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, I'll tell you what. The Broncos might be
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: 0-12 this year, but they've sold out every home game.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So we're all good, right? Isn't that how that works? Oh,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the Rockies sell tickets? You guys seem really happy with that,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: don't you?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rockies are like always middle of the pack
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and tickets sold. See? Yeah, I've never understood that. You
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: know what gets tickets sold more than anything? What winning? Yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, what little ingredient gets you
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: places sold out?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, goodness gracious. Do you know what helps ticket sales?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Good products. That does it more than anything. So anyway, Vic,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: real quick, before we get the keys to the game,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much of the nuggets that you
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: watched over the weekend. I thought it was, they let
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: it go a little bit in the third, but they
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: played overall like a really, really solid game. It looked
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: like they, The effort that they had defensively in the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: first half kind of went away in the second half
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: because they had such a big lead.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'll lean on you for this since you filled my role.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks for subbing for me, by the way. Substitute teacher.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the first Nuggets game I've missed in
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: 10 years. Really? Where I didn't watch a single element
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of the game. I mean, I was in the middle
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of full tailgate at that point. You think I was
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: going to stop tailgating?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: It was worth it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't going to stop doing that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: So.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch a second. I got updates. I looked
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: at my phone. I saw they were up like 27.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, this game's over. And then how
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: did it go from 27 to a close game?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of missed shots. And the Pacers just got
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: out and ran. And it just felt like the tenacity
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: in which they had in the first half defensively of
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: staying in front of guys, not allowing cutters, not allowing blow-bys,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: maybe just dissipated a little bit with the bigger the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: lead got. Once the game got tied again, though, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: think they cut it to the single digits again. they
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: started to push back away. It was always at an
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: arm's length, even when they were making the comeback. But
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, the biggest things that I got
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: from the game was, number one, Spencer Jones being back
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: off that bench is huge.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Very efficient, by the way.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Incredibly.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Very efficient night. How much, I mean, could you see
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: him impact the game right away? Oh my God. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: explain to me what he did impact the game.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: First 30 seconds he's on the floor. His first 30
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: seconds of the season. Block shot right at the rim.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Big time.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Leads to a transition bucket.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Next thing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: They're struggling to shoot threes. They built a lead, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I think they started the game 0 for 8 or
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: 0 for 9 from three-point range. He goes in, knocks
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: down a corner three, boom. And it felt like that
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: got people a little bit more confident from the three-point line.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: But it's, you know what it is. Spencer Jones has
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the attitude of a guy who shouldn't be in the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: NBA because he probably shouldn't have been in the NBA.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And he still plays that way. So if you have
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: a bench that features him, Trevin Brazil, all these guys
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: that are like young, hungry guys, they play with an
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: effort that is sort of unmatched. And I don't want
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: to take that away from the starting lineup. I thought
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: they did the same thing in this game, but the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: other big factor, Cam Johnson, when he's on, he is
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: such a, a great piece to have because he is
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: just steady. If he has the open shot, he's going
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: to take it and knock it down. What I really
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: love from him. It took him a while. He, he
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: was being matched up with this tiny dude who I've
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: never heard of before. Um, Braden, Braden Smith.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: He was, uh, I think he's a, either a second
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: year player or rookies playing for Halliburton because Halliburton's hurt.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: But he was guarding him defensively. Braden Smith is five
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: foot 10. And I was like, me and Jay Rich
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: both were saying, get in the paint and body this
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: guy up.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: It took him a minute to do that. But then
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: he started getting more aggressive as the game went on.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, overall, it's like, I don't think anybody had
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: a bad game from the nuggets, which was nice to see. Um,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: There was a lot of DeMar DeRozan ISO stuff once
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: he got into, and I think that he's now recognizing
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: his role has to be, I'm a shot creator, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I need, my game is ISO mid-range. My role off
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the bench is I go out and get buckets for
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: this team. So it's just a lot of good from
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: that game. Had that little, you know, 10-minute stretch of
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: bad defense that got Indiana back into it, but always
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: kept them at an arm's length. And that leads into
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: tonight's game. Do whatever it takes to win.
• 31:22
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• 31:38
  Speaker 3: All right, game tonight, Vic. Nuggets and Rockets. 630 right
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: here on 92.5.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Are you being serious? You're trying to tell me to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: give you... some sort of keys to the game. When
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: we have the entire starting five and their sixth man
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: currently listed on the injury list is questionable. You're trying
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to tell me to give you keys when I have
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: no idea who's going to perform for the Denver Nuggets
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: tonight because they missed a full day by having to
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: stay in Mexico City because their plane wasn't working. They
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: went to their plane after the game. It wasn't operating.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: They had to sit in the plane for seven hours,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: went back to the hotel at 5 a.m., finally got
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the plane to work. 24 hours after first trying to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: leave Mexico City, they finally got out of there. They
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: got to Houston, and as a result, the Nuggets told
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the NBA, yeah, everybody's listed as questionable for tonight against Houston.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: So my question to you is, how the hell do
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you want me to give you a key?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's your job. I guess the
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: key is no keys.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Take that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Keys to the game, or lack thereof, is brought to
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  Speaker 5: I mean, honestly.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You must be the other guy. Tonight, we might have
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a starting five if the Nuggets go through with this, right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And if they do, I think it's a message they're
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: sending to the NBA. If the Denver Nuggets rest all
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: their players tonight, which they could.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: They could rest them all. And we know they're not hurt.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: We know they're not injured. But it could be a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: message to the NBA saying, why give us an international
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: game to start a road trip? Because this is what
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: can happen.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. 303-504-0925. Wrap up the show next.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: It's a Rally House Football Monday. Rally House shop every
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: team in town.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Let me get a sip.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Mmm.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: A little coffee protein smoothie from Smoothie King. Mike Sanford's
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: going to be there in DTC tomorrow to celebrate their
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: first anniversary. Stop by between noon and 2 to hang
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: out with Mike, grab some lunch, enjoy any 20-ounce smoothie
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: for just $ 4. 99. The anniversary specials run all day Tuesday
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m., so come celebrate at
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Smoothie King in DTC. Good smoothie every once in a while, huh?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, I actually drank some beer over the weekend. You
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: would have been proud of me.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: How many beers?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Enough to make my tummy hurt. And a boy.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: That's how it should be done. You tailgated. See? Didn't
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: it feel good?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so different than what I'm used to.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Like drinking beer, watching other college football games. The tailgates
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: were awesome, by the way. Because, you know, there's a
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: bunch of Miami fans that were there. And they were
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: invited to these tailgates. They were there eating among us.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Having a good time. It was just so cool, and
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I know everyone's gone through this before. I'm speaking to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the olds here, speaking to all of you. It was
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: me and nine of my close buddies from the dorm
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: we lived in. In Notre Dame, dorms are like fraternities.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: That's how you stay in the dorms. It's been 35
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: years since I've seen some of these guys, and it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the same as it ever was. The same mannerisms, same attitudes.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Some of them have the same exact sense of humor,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: different hairline, but everything's the same. It's so crazy.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Was part of you, I've wondered this, did you go
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: back and were you like, I want to see my
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: old dorm?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what we did. Oh, you went and looked?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's the first place we went. What?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: You went and looked at the actual room?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Of course we did. We went right, me and my roommate,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Dan Krimian, walked right to our room.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: What did you do? Knock on the door and have
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: somebody let you in?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You're damn right I knocked on it and said, hey,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I was here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I know it's weird.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: The first house that me and my wife ever got together.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I got a knock on the door from this.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean you got together?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: No, the first time, the first house me and my
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: wife got together. When we first, yeah, when we bought
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: a house together.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: You purchased together.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: We had a mother and daughter combo. They're probably, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: don't know, like 60 and 30 something.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Ring our doorbell. And I'm like, what do these people want?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Opened the door and said, we used to live here.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Can we look at your house? I was like, this
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: is a very weird ask.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I mean, okay. And they walked
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: in like a few feet through the front door.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's enough. Go ahead. Take a peek. It happened
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to me when I was in college there, alum would
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: come by. We are in the oldest dorm on campus.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: We have the oldest dorm. So it's been there forever.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So it happened all the time. It's just sort of a,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it's a practice. Everybody goes through it. It's fine.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Um, Texture says, you guys sound crazy. Prior to Dion,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: there was absolutely no hope for a decade. No players.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I know kids that took FCS and D2 offers before CU.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Now you guys got a Heisman. Here's what I'm here
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to tell you, man. I think that everybody recognizes that
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the year that you had with Shador Sanders at quarterback
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: and the Heisman Trophy year of Travis Hunter was great.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Now what?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: It is in the same place, if not worse than
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: it was beforehand.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Now what?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Because you aren't just losing football games, you're losing football
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: games and draining money into a football program and head
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: coach that's not getting the results. I mean, what was
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Mel Tucker making here? Like two and a half million
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: dollars or.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Something like that?
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: And that was a lot of money.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not only is it worth, you're paying 10 million
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: for that. It's 10 million a year for one coach.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I think there has to be some level of realization,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: even if you guys, and we all acknowledge the good
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: things that Dion has brought to see you. Bottom line,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: it's a results-oriented business, and the results are terrible.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Man, this has never been anything personal for me. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: had the pleasure and the privilege to interview that man
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: last year, and I told you what I felt. I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: loved it. He's great, man. He came across as authentic, genuine,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: and I really do believe him when he says he
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: wants to make life better for the kids that go
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: to school. I get it. I do, too. I don't.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I don't contest that. But if it doesn't work, it
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't work. You got to be held to the same
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: standards as everybody else. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: And the price tag is pretty extreme if it doesn't work.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Real quick here. Did you see what happened yesterday in
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the Kansas City game? So the Jets were hanging in
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: there with the Chiefs before the Chiefs pulled away late.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: But did you see the hit that Mahomes took where
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: he went straight to his elbow?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I thought he snapped his arm off.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: He finished the game, but it is something to monitor
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: moving forward because it looks really painful. And if you've
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: ever played baseball or anything and had an elbow injury,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: anything that involves throwing the ball with an elbow is
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: a big problem. And I don't know if that's going
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: to get better as the days go along, if it's
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: going to get worse, whatever. But it is something to
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: keep an eye on because the Chiefs are still hanging
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: in there. They're 6-2 now, just a half game back
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: of you for the division lead.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: We did.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Point this out, and it is really incredible. The Los
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers are the last 0-4 team left in the NFL.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Would you have ever guessed that, by the way, when
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the season started? Would you have ever said, okay, pick
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: one team that will go the longest without a win?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think I would have had the Chargers in my.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Vic, they would have been one of my last choices.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: One of my last choices. Their 0-8, they went 37...
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: consecutive drives without a touchdown up until the fourth quarter
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: yesterday against the Texans when that game was far out
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: of reach. 37 consecutive offensive drives without a TD. Justin
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Herbert was sacked, Vic. Eight times. In that game yesterday,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert has thrown an interception in all eight games
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: this year. It's the longest streak to start a season
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: since Peyton Manning threw one in each of the first
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: nine games in which year? What would you guess? Peyton
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Manning did this in each of the first nine games
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: in which season?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: His rookie season.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: 2015. Little different results in the win-loss column between those
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: two teams. But it is crazy, crazy to see that
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: they're one of the last teams in the league that
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: has yet to get a win. Like, or the last team.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: And the way that they've been going about it is
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: absolutely nuts. It's hard enough to figure out in college
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: football who the best team in the league is. But, Vic,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: if I ask you today, your best team in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: NFL is who? Gosh.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Gosh.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: That's almost equally as difficult. I'd say San Francisco. I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: would say San Francisco. Their only loss was on the road.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I think they've had the most blowout wins of any team, right?
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I would say San Francisco.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question. Can I say the Broncos?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Can I say they're the best team in football?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You could say that given the schedule they've played, but
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: then San Francisco's going to line up against you and
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: say you lost head-to-head to San Francisco. So that makes
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: them better.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I would say that being seven and, well, let's put
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: it this way. In the last 26 regular season games,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the Broncos are 21 and five. Hard to get much
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: better than that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Again, that head-to-head is going to hurt you against San Francisco.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: If you're going to put the Broncos up there, All right,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: who'd they lose to? One of those losses to a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: team that's got a better record.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: When you talk about the Broncos, the Niners, I would
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: say the Bills probably have to be in that discussion,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: don't they? Maybe the Bears, even though they tried to
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: give that one away. But it is, at this point
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: in the calendar, Petra says it's got to be Cincinnati.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think Cincinnati's defense is good enough. They have
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: a remarkable offense. Joe Burrow might win the MVP, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I don't trust that defense at all.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: All right, so Brett, who's the best team in college football?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Man, I don't.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: How can you give an answer?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I would say this. People are going to roll their
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: eyes at this. I think Utah is one of them.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Utah is really impressive.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: So the best team, think about what you just said.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Give me two. We just utilized 10 to 15 minutes
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: talking about the woes of CU football. And you're telling
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: me that the best team in college football beats CU
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: by three.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's what it's them. It's Georgia.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know either. I don't have an answer. I'm not,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not coming back at you with an answer. It
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: could be anybody. And that's why I saw this here.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Every college football fan base can complain about their team
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: in some manner, no matter where they are.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: No question. No question.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: If you miss, if you miss the news today, They
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: made it official, a new CFP starting next year, 24 teams, $ 1. 7 billion.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, really quick before fact checker. We talked to Adam Schefter.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: He said the Broncos are likely looking for a tight
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: end or a safety on the trade market instead of
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a running back. What else did he say, Vic? The
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Broncos have received calls about Stidham. Obviously not pulled the trigger.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: They sure have.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But he said they've received calls about him.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure they've received calls about a lot of players.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they've received calls about Riley Moss, about Jadé Barron.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you name it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: The unwillingness to part with him, though. It's interesting. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: wish I knew what was offered to make them say
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: no and what would make them say yes to trade
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Jared Stenum. Anyway, a lot more news coming your way
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: in the coming hours. Got the Nuggets taking on the
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Rockets tonight, 6.30 right here on 92.5. But a fact checker, please.
• 44:02
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• 44:07
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• 44:08
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• 44:17
  Speaker 6: What do Vic Lombardi and Spencer Jones both have in common?
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: They both better be updating their LinkedIn profiles pretty soon
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: because Brett... Good job driving the bus hosting the Nuggets
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: pregame show on Saturday.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night, the Denver Nuggets delivered their most dominant win
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: on the season. Now, the Mile High crew heads south
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: of the border to Mexico City for the start of
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: a four-game roadie. I want to do my voice so bad.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: The struggling Indiana Pacers. Why didn't you?
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Once again, without their star. It's an afternoon fiesta. And
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: it's next.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: What?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: What an opportunity for you to use your Spanish voice,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and you didn't do it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Here's what happened. I had the script. I didn't know
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: that the Spanish music was coming in, and so I
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't adjust on the fly.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I should have. I know what happens. Here's what happens.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: You give Mosher all kinds of heat for this. You
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: guys give me heat for being a carnival barker. As
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: soon as the camera turns on, you get professional. Oh, Vic,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I was a total fraud. You know what I said?
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: My earpiece came out unhooked on the back.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I need somebody in here to
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: fix this right now. I got so bougie, I started
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: barking out orders. The power trip I was on.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Television changes you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: It changes you. I didn't like that version of me.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: You can't be normal like we are right now on television.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Somebody come fix this now.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: Do you want to give us a little redemption shot
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: on the way to break here?
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: The Broncos in Mexico. Ciudad de Mexico. Come away with
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: a big victory. Can they do it again? Find out
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: tonight on Altitude.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I would have welcomed that, but you're right. There's something
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: about doing that on television when you're exposed because your
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: head was exposed. You weren't wearing a hat, from what
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I understand. When your head is exposed and you're doing that,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: people might look at you and say, what is that?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: What's this nerd doing?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Love you. See you.