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Update on ATF NFA Process · Live to Shoot - Defending our 2nd Amendment Rights

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  Well, welcome to the live shoot podcast.
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  My name is Jeff Dodo and I've been a licensed farm dealer for the last.
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  18 years.
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  In this podcast we talk about all things related Second Amendment, anything else going in the world, a sports story, or anything else I might find interesting.
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  So welcome, welcome, welcome.
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  We are in 2026.
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  Happy New Year, and I hope everybody had a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
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  I took a little time off, but now we're trying to get back into it and.
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  Today I wanna talk about the NFA suppressor process that kicked off on the first of this year.
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  So, as you may or may not have been aware, as part of the big beautiful bill that was passed last summer the$200 tax stamp that was being charged by the A TF since.
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  Now, 1934, whenever the NFA came into being the 200 tax stamp that was charged on suppressors, silencers short bail rifles short bail shotguns was eliminated.
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  Now you still have to register those items, and that entails going through the E-forms process on the ATFs website, submitting your application.
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  Photos fingerprint file, trust documents if you have'em and such and so, but all that has been put on hold because on January one that tax was being eliminated.
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  So people have been kind of holding back, waiting for that to be eliminated and on January one, submitting them.
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  And I too have been waiting to, to go through that process and hear how here's how it has gone.
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  Not well.
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  It has been a process.
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  The system has been up and down, crashing overwhelmed.
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  You try and submit, it doesn't go through.
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  You Keep trying and keep trying and keep trying, and the system is obviously overloaded.
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  And that is to be expected because this isn't the at s first rodeo.
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  So again, I've been doing this 18 years.
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  So in 2013 is when the E-forms process originally came out, and it was horrific.
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  Prior to that, you would do all the paperwork submitted in duplicate, triplicate, attach.
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  Pictures and fingerprint cards and mail it in to the A TF and wait a year to 18 months to get it approved and a physical document would be come back to you in the mail.
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  In two, 2013, they came out with the E forms process and that was supposed to eliminate.
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  All of that.
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  And it was horrific, absolutely horrific.
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  It would take days, and I literally mean days to submit one form.
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  I would log in, I would get maybe five, six questions answered, and the system would go down.
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  So he learned the old, you know, save as you go.
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  So I kept saving, you, keep saving, keep saving, keep saving.
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  And maybe after about three days, you would get all the way through the process of one form and eventually get it submitted.
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  Now, once you got submitted, the turnaround process was imp was improving, but it was just absolutely painful.
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  And in 2014, they shut down the application.
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  They completely shut it down.
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  There was some limited use for form ones because of the volume was, is not nearly as significant as the form fours, but they shut it down.
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  Well, they did bring it back, I believe, at, you know, beginning of 2022.
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  And it's, it's worked fine.
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  And you know, over the last 18 months, the turnaround times had actually improved and things were going great, but.
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  I knew everybody knew that this was going to be a catastrophe because of the amount of volume that was gonna be hitting the A TF.
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  So I tried to be proactive and I went in and I, I created drafts and you can the, in the for application, you know, there's.
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  Once you start one, it's a draft and then you submit it, it gets submitted, and then there you can look up all the approved and withdrawns and all that.
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  So I created drafts of everything, and so I was gonna just come in on January one and hit submit on all of mine once the tax was no longer there.
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  Well, when I log in on January one, there's nothing in the drafts.
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  So not surprised.
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  I'm not surprised.
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  I thought that might happen.
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  So I went in and I created my first one, and this was early on the January.
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  I'm an early person and I got one through, went through pretty well.
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  Then after that, nothing could not get anything submitted.
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  So on January 2nd, I got up at three o'clock in the morning and got one submitted.
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  And I still have some, and that I have not been able to get any submitted since then.
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  I've got a handful left to submit and there's various errors, timeouts.
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  I started a new form over for one and got the error to go away that I was getting for that same one, but it still hasn't submitted.
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  So I tried to do that all this morning and nothing's happened so.
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  I will probably log in early in the morning tomorrow and see if I can get the final one submitted, but again, hasn't gone well.
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  And I can understand in my real life, I'm, I'm an IT guy and I can understand, you know, there, there's cost for performance and availability and.
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  To add that level to support the volume, maybe what would be for a very short period of time, they're not gonna experience this type of volume that they're experiencing, you know, in this first month probably ever again.
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  So do we wanna invest those dollars?
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  And especially.
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  For a government entity, if this was a company that your reputation and these, this is actually incoming revenue, this is not incoming revenue for the government, actually there's no revenue because we're not paying the tax anymore.
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  Do we wanna invest those dollars?
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  And I imagine a conscious decision in terms of what the amount of throughput the system could handle was made based on what the cost would be.
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  And this was just something that people were going to, except because as dealers I have no other place to go.
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  All I have to do is fight through it and just keep trying.
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  And eventually I will get them all submitted either in a, the first week, it may take a month.
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  Who knows?
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  So I, I can understand it from an IT person's perspective, but from a user's perspective it's horrible.
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  And but.
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  No tax is being charged.
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  It's, you know, when you do get one submitted it, it gets submitted.
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  Now the next unknown is how long it's going to take to get them to approve these.
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  And that's the big question because there is apparently a lot going through the system.
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  And I still have some.
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  From, for customers that haven't gotten me this, the information they need to submit for'em.
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  So I've still got a backlog of suppressors to submit for approval pending some, you know, copies of fingerprints, photos, et cetera.
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  So, you know, and I'm sure there's other dealers like that and, you know, who knows, wants.
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  The word gets out and people actually start realizing the thing gets suppressors without paying.
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  The 200 sales are probably gonna go up.
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  I expect this to be a big year for suppressor sales this year.
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  So more to come on that.
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  But again, right now, just this is a quick update I wanna give you.
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  Not going well.
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  Not going well.
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  And we will see.
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  I will, I'll kind of try and keep you updated either in an upcoming podcast episode or just a part of an intro of one depending on how we go.
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  But right now I've got some submitted.
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  We'll see.
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  Maybe I can give you an update next week.
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  Hey, all of them got approved.
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  Boom.
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  They're already done.
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  And I got everything else submitted or we'll see how it goes.
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  Who knows?
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  So I appreciate you listening.
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  Take care and have a great rest of your day.