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Steve Price | 1 May · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live.
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Speaker 2: This is Steve Price. Good evening to set Price with
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Speaker 2: you on this first Friday in May and update shortly
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Speaker 2: on one of the saddest stories in recent Australian history,
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Speaker 2: the alleged murder of a little five year old girl
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Speaker 2: now known as Kumin Jae little Baby in Alice Springs.
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Speaker 2: Truly shocking to the fallout of all of that very
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Speaker 2: shortly coming up tonight on the program. Two by elections
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Speaker 2: across two weekends, the Victorian state seat of Nepean that
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Speaker 2: election will be held tomorrow and the federal seat of
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Speaker 2: Farah that will be next weekend. Full coverage here on Sky.
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Speaker 2: Victorian Opposition leader Jess Wilson will join us shortly from
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Speaker 2: the seat of Nepean and still in Victoria. And a
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Speaker 2: violent crime crisis is simply getting worse with an off
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Speaker 2: duty in uniform paramedic stabbed in broad daylight yesterday and
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Speaker 2: a new crime wave of hospitality fire bombings with potential
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Speaker 2: fatal consequences. Retired Detective Charlie Bazina will join me right
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Speaker 2: here on the bus. Suggestions the Prime Minister might be
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Speaker 2: about to tip billions of dollars of your tax payer
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Speaker 2: money into the money pit that is Melbourne's suburban rail
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Speaker 2: loop in the lead up to Victoria's November state election,
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Speaker 2: and warnings from Azy about Chinese evs being able to
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Speaker 2: spy on political leaders. Will get our panel's view on
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Speaker 2: all of that, but first, every so often, in my view,
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Speaker 2: a news event so troubling, so confronting, gets inside the
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Speaker 2: heads of all Australians. I'm referring, of course, to the
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Speaker 2: alleged murder of a five year old girl in Alice
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Speaker 2: Springs and the desperate searches this week hoping to find
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Speaker 2: that little girl alive that as we now know tragically
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Speaker 2: was not to be and kuman Jai little baby was
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Speaker 2: discovered five kilometers away from the town camp from where
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Speaker 2: she went missing, where she disappeared. She was discovered yesterday.
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Speaker 2: The body was discovered yesterday. A forty seven year old
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Speaker 2: recently released prisoner, Jefferson Lewis, is expected to be charged.
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Speaker 2: That could happen while we're on air tonight, or it
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Speaker 2: could happen tomorrow. He's now in Darwin. I'll get to
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Speaker 2: the riot that took place outside the Alice Springs hospital
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Speaker 2: in a moment and talked to the Australian newspapers Liam Mendez,
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Speaker 2: who filmed and reported live on what unfolded last night.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to him shortly, but before the arrests and
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Speaker 2: the riots and the anger with police vehicles torched and
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Speaker 2: tear gas deployed. Just the fact that a five year
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Speaker 2: old girl at eleven o'clock at night, in a place
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Speaker 2: that looks like a human hellhole could exist in modern
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Speaker 2: Australia should shock all of us to the core. But
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Speaker 2: you know, well, you know what, it doesn't really because
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Speaker 2: we've been here before, haven't we. Alice Springs riots, booze
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Speaker 2: crazed locals and drug affected teenagers younger even roaming the
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Speaker 2: streets sound familiar. Well, that's because it is familiar. And
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Speaker 2: you know what, exactly two years ago, on April twenty nine,
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, so two years ago, yesterday, the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister flew into Alice Springs for a whistle stop visit
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Speaker 2: after weeks of unrest, resulting in a three week youth
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Speaker 2: curfew where anyone under the age of aging was banned
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Speaker 2: from going into the town center between six pm and
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Speaker 2: six am. Now, the Northern Territory government imposed that curfew
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Speaker 2: and Anthony Albanezi jetted in with his then Indigenous Affairs
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Speaker 2: Minister Linda Birnie and Federal MP Marion Scrimjaw. And where
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Speaker 2: did they go to, Well, they went to a new
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Speaker 2: health hub that was being built at the cost of
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Speaker 2: five million dollars. Prime Minister Albanizi rattled on about supporting
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Speaker 2: programs for young children to receive proper health care. And
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Speaker 2: there was more money from labor fourteen point two million
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Speaker 2: to quote deliver policing and other community safety two hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty million in another package for Central Australia a
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Speaker 2: year earlier to quote spend on a range of social issues,
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Speaker 2: you know, political it's been as usual, youth diversion, job creation,
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Speaker 2: treating fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. So three years ago that package,
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Speaker 2: then two years ago to the day yesterday, another political visit.
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Speaker 2: Then fast forward to this week. Now I'll talk shortly
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Speaker 2: with Liberal Senator Jacinta Nampa jimper Price, who was related
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Speaker 2: to the five year old victim in all of this,
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Speaker 2: and find out from the senator who calls Alice Springs
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Speaker 2: home about those camps and about where this federal funding
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Speaker 2: all goes. Where does the money go the Australians. Liam
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Speaker 2: Mendez went inside one of those homes where this poor
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Speaker 2: little girl was living, in a place called the Old
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Speaker 2: Timers Camp. How in God's name can anyone, let alone
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Speaker 2: a five year old girl live there? And then the
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Speaker 2: events of the week have being allegedly taken from that
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Speaker 2: place by a recently released career criminal, Jefferson Lewis. Lewis,
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Speaker 2: as we now know believe, turned up at another of
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Speaker 2: these camps, the Charles Creek and was bashed to as
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Speaker 2: police revealed today, within an inch of his life.
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Speaker 3: He knew his time was up, and he decided to
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Speaker 3: hand himself into community members rather than the police. And
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Speaker 3: that's when things took the turn that they took. We
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Speaker 3: were advised that mister Lewis was at one of the
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Speaker 3: town camps in Alla Springs being violently assaulted. We responded
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Speaker 3: very quickly, In fact, our detectives got there very quickly.
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Speaker 3: Our detectives were assaulted, but we intervened to prevent that
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Speaker 3: assault from occurring, and we took mister Lewis into custody
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Speaker 3: at that time.
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Speaker 2: What a disaster. Then outside the hospital last night, as
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Speaker 2: we took to Liam about in a sec up to
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Speaker 2: four hundred maybe more writers turned up baying for blood,
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Speaker 2: threatened to kill Lewis, and a riot took place when
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Speaker 2: police denied them entry to that hospital.
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Speaker 3: We evacuated mister Lewis to the Ala Springs Hospital for treatment,
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Speaker 3: and shortly after large crowds gathered at the hospital, up
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Speaker 3: to about four hundred people and attempted to gain an
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Speaker 3: entry to get to mister Lewis. So we use less
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Speaker 3: than lethal munitions. We had our TRG there and we
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Speaker 3: deployed bembag rounds and chemical munitions to coil that crowd.
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Speaker 2: Now, as I said at the start of the program,
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Speaker 2: at the heart of this tragedy is a five year
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Speaker 2: old girl born into national shame that no one in
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Speaker 2: my lifetime has been able to make any meaningful change.
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Speaker 1: Too.
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Speaker 2: It takes her alleged murder and a vigilante riot to
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Speaker 2: do what. Ban the sale of takeaway alcohol today and
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Speaker 2: they're going to limit the hours alcohol could be sold tomorrow. Seriously,
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Speaker 2: what are we as a nation that we can't do more?
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Speaker 2: Labor even famously reversed the Howard error interventions because someone
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Speaker 2: felt it was being prejudicial to one group of Australians
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Speaker 2: over another. Camera flies in and out quickly, splashes some
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Speaker 2: cash around to ease their collective consciences and hopes the
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Speaker 2: issue will go away and it will fix itself. This
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Speaker 2: week in a tragedy, heat on tragedy and a five
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Speaker 2: year old's life lost, Can someone, can anyone do something meaningful?
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Speaker 2: Or will we simply repeat the sins of the past
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Speaker 2: over and over again. Let's go to Alae Springs now
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Speaker 2: for more on those seeds from last night which were
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Speaker 2: just extraordinarily. Am Mendez from The Australian was on Sky
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Speaker 2: last night. He was right in the middle of what
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Speaker 2: it was seems to me to be an out of
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Speaker 2: control situation at times. Liam, how dangerous was that last night?
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Speaker 2: Do you think.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me stieve? I have been very privileged
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Speaker 4: my career to a couple of places like Ukraine and
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Speaker 4: Israel and been bombed by the blissed misass from around
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Speaker 4: one landing a kilometer and a half away from my
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Speaker 4: colleague Janni Bishan and I just last year, and I
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Speaker 4: genuinely felt more fearful for my life in Alice Springs
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Speaker 4: purely because of the rocks that were being thrown. Had
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Speaker 4: one of those hit myself or any of our colleagues
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Speaker 4: or police or you know very well easily could have
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Speaker 4: been killed. The insanity of the amount of aggression that
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Speaker 4: was on the ground. You know, this is we're talking
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Speaker 4: about a community that is incredibly, incredibly upset.
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Speaker 2: You've been there all week. This didn't this developed quite quickly?
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Speaker 2: Where did these rioters come from? And what do you
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Speaker 2: think would have happened Limb if the police had not
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Speaker 2: been able to secure that hospital.
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Speaker 4: Well, these writers, they wanted to go into the hospital.
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Speaker 4: There was one man detained. I believe he's been released
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Speaker 4: without charge to running at police. And you know there
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Speaker 4: were times where you know, the group of people did,
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Speaker 4: you know, try and run at police, and that is
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Speaker 4: when police had to pull out their their peppers, pray,
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Speaker 4: and then they slowly moved up towards being bad rifles
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Speaker 4: and also gas canisters to disturb the crowds. Sorry, and
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Speaker 4: and and but they were incredibly upset with police for
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Speaker 4: keeping him safe in custody. And you know, we are
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Speaker 4: a country where you know, that is the obligation of
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Speaker 4: police and corrective services to keep people who are accused
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Speaker 4: of the most serious crimes, no matter what they've done
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Speaker 4: or have been alleged to have done. They are most
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Speaker 4: of the time safe in custody.
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Speaker 2: Leam, was this cultural payback happening here? Potentially?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could, You could definitely say that that was happening.
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Speaker 4: That is essentially what happened at the at the at
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Speaker 4: the at the town camp. And then when people moved
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Speaker 4: towards the hospital, you know, they were yelling things at
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Speaker 4: the police, like, you know, calling the police, you know,
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Speaker 4: a pedophile, a pedophile protector, you know, let us get
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Speaker 4: here and we'll sort him out, all sorts of things
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Speaker 4: like that. But there was a lot of grief. There
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Speaker 4: was a lot of emotion. There was a lot of
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Speaker 4: a lot of tears and wailing from the crowds as well.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I don't want to paint this as
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Speaker 4: an entirely violent situation. It was very very violent, but
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Speaker 4: it was also a place of mourning, a place of
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Speaker 4: grieving where people were coming together and hugging and kissing
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Speaker 4: as well. Like it was an extraordinary event to witness.
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Speaker 2: I heard you earlier saying that to you went into
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Speaker 2: the home where this young girl spent some time at
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Speaker 2: the invitation of the family, We should stress that described
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Speaker 2: for me what that was like in that house.
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Speaker 4: I think you know, most Australians would be shocked to
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Speaker 4: see that these the living conditions of some of our
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Speaker 4: most vulnerable children in our nation's They're just tragic, tragic conditions.
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Speaker 4: And I think you raised a really interesting point at
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Speaker 4: the start, but when you referred to our Prime Minister
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Speaker 4: when he came to Alice Springs in a little over
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Speaker 4: two years ago. He has been to Alice Springs several
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Speaker 4: times since then. But I would really be fascinated to
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Speaker 4: know whether he's actually been into one of these town council,
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Speaker 4: been into one of these homes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I doubt that very much. Liam. You're doing a
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Speaker 2: fantastic piece of coverage up there. Thank you if your
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Speaker 2: help on Sky last night and again this afternoon. I
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Speaker 2: look forward to reading your updates in the Australian newspaper today.
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Speaker 2: Leam Mendez just doing extraordinary jobs sticking with the issue
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Speaker 2: of those camps and the urgent need for protecting Indigenous children.
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Speaker 2: We're now joined by Senator to the Northern Territory and
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Speaker 2: Alice Springs Local just sent a Nampa jimp for price.
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Speaker 2: I mean you can Senator answer the question there. Do
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Speaker 2: we know if our Senior Minister whether an Indigenous Affairs
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Speaker 2: minister in a labor government or a prime minister has
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Speaker 2: ever been to one of those town camps?
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Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 6: Sadly, I would imagine that the current Minister for Indigenous
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Speaker 6: Affairs has been in several town camps, which poses the
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Speaker 6: question why doesn't this government do more? And you know,
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Speaker 6: why hadn't they previously heeded the calls for royal commission
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Speaker 6: into the sexual abuse of Indigenous children? Why haven't they
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Speaker 6: heeded the calls previously into auditing you know, those who
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Speaker 6: are responsible for improving the lives of those living in
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Speaker 6: town camps. I would imagine that the Prime Minister himself
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Speaker 6: hasn't set foot. That's why he delegates responsibility to others
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Speaker 6: and to make it appear as though he cares. But yeah,
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Speaker 6: which is why. Yeah, But like I said, I know
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Speaker 6: that the current minister has set foot, So why isn't
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Speaker 6: their action from this government?
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Speaker 7: Is the question?
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Speaker 2: I just run off of my condolences. I know that
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Speaker 2: you are connected to Coom and Jay little baby, so
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Speaker 2: I know it must be tough for you, and I
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Speaker 2: know that the family is doing it really hard. I
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Speaker 2: just want to stick on this issue of these camps.
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Speaker 2: Why do they exist?
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Speaker 6: So? Alice Springstown camps were set up for a number
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Speaker 6: of reasons. They were set up for people who were
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Speaker 6: traveling from communities into Alice Springs, for movement between those communities,
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Speaker 6: for cultural connections. But I suppose, and you know, these
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Speaker 6: have been homes to many original communities. A large number
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Speaker 6: of my family live into town camps. I have spelled
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Speaker 6: a lot of my childhood connected to town camps. I've
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Speaker 6: seen a lot of the violence firsthand.
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Speaker 3: I have.
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Speaker 6: I've literally picked up, you know, the bodies of loved
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Speaker 6: ones and put them into body.
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Speaker 1: Bags in town camps.
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Speaker 6: But you know, their existence does not justify unsafe conditions,
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Speaker 6: and our children should not have to live in such
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Speaker 6: unsafe conditions. And and I suppose you know, I'm upset,
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Speaker 6: but I'm also frustrated because these issues I have fought
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Speaker 6: to bring to the forefront for many, many years now,
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Speaker 6: and those who have held the power to make change
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Speaker 6: have not done so, particularly in the last few years.
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Speaker 6: And you know, it's high time that those of us
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Speaker 6: Ultimately we're all responsible for this. Ultimately we're all responsible.
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Speaker 6: It has been suggested by some community leaders that we
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Speaker 6: don't talk about town camps, but it would be remiss
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Speaker 6: of me as an art to the little one and
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Speaker 6: as an elected parliamentarian to ignore the plight of those
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Speaker 6: living in town camps and the circumstances under which they live,
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Speaker 6: and the many who are responsible for the upkeep of
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Speaker 6: town camps, for the conditions of town camps. So you know,
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Speaker 6: things need to change. Things need to change.
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Speaker 2: They do, I mean. And your tears I think are
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Speaker 2: being shared by many more Australians tonight than you'd realize,
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Speaker 2: because as you and I both know this, with these
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Speaker 2: news cycles, there is sometimes an event that takes place
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Speaker 2: and I said this at the start of the show,
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Speaker 2: that gets into people's heads and it's so shocking and
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Speaker 2: so disturbing that people are now going to demand obviously
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Speaker 2: that some change happens, I mean non Aboriginal Australians. And
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Speaker 2: you put, you have prosecuted this case perfectly. See millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars going into Aboriginal welfare. And yet we have
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Speaker 2: a situation like we see where that poor little girl
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Speaker 2: was living and where that poor little girl tragically died.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you know, and obviously closing the gap is
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Speaker 6: not working. You can throw as much money at a situation,
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Speaker 6: but if it's not working, well, then we need to
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Speaker 6: understand why it is not working. And what I've seen
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Speaker 6: over the years is segregation being applied to these circumstances,
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Speaker 6: which very much means that Indigenous Australians, especially our most vulnerable,
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Speaker 6: are being treated separately to the rest of the country.
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Speaker 6: There's a culture of allowing the racism, of low expectations,
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Speaker 6: where there is an acceptance a tolerance to the state
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Speaker 6: of living for our children, for our people in places,
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Speaker 6: you know, like town camps. And I would ask every
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Speaker 6: single parliamentarian, especially in Federal Parliament, especially the teals, each
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Speaker 6: and every Teal that I invited to come to visit
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Speaker 6: it these places with me when I was very first elected.
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Speaker 6: Not a single one of them actually took up my invitation.
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Speaker 6: To parliamentarians who have been in power, those who have
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Speaker 6: called out to me to say, well, you know, if
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Speaker 6: you know of circumstances where a child has been in
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Speaker 6: a vulnerable situation, report that. And I have reported that.
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Speaker 6: But these excuses that have been applied and used. I'm
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Speaker 6: not about trying to paint every Indigenous person, or every
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Speaker 6: Indigenous man for that matter, as a bad person. What
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Speaker 6: I'm asking us to have is an honest truthful conversation
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Speaker 6: and for leadership to take place, and I'll call on
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Speaker 6: all parliamentarians of all political backgrounds to do that seriously,
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Speaker 6: because it's not just the tragedy of my niece in
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Speaker 6: the circumstances, but it's the many tragedies before, over and
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Speaker 6: over and over and over again. And I don't want
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Speaker 6: for in six months time this to be completely forgotten
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Speaker 6: about and swept under the rug and we've all moved
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Speaker 6: on from this situation. There needs to be a change,
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Speaker 6: and there needs to be accountability. We are all accountable
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Speaker 6: to this situation, every single one of us, including organizations
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Speaker 6: where the segregation has occurred, where it's where we've been
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Speaker 6: told as Aboriginal people, only Aboriginal organizations can fix our lives. Well,
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Speaker 6: clearly that formula has not worked, and we're going to
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Speaker 6: be honest about that, and we're going to have honest
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Speaker 6: conversations going forward.
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Speaker 2: You prosecute the case very well. Do Indigenous people have
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Speaker 2: discussions within their own circles about the level of domestic
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Speaker 2: violence and child abuse? Do they talk themselves about the
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Speaker 2: problem they have. I'm not suggesting it only happens in
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Speaker 2: Indigenous communities. It happens in every community. And we have
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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time as non Indigenous Australians talking
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Speaker 2: about domestic violence issues. It seems to be worse within
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Speaker 2: Indigenous communities. And I don't know why. Is it alcohol,
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Speaker 2: is it drugs? I don't know. Do you look.
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Speaker 6: There are a number of reasons that impact and there
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Speaker 6: are conversations that happen, and a lot of those conversations
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Speaker 6: are hushed. A lot of those conversations are held from
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Speaker 6: those who've been victimized. Many people are very fearful of
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Speaker 6: having open and honest conversations, which is why something like
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Speaker 6: a Royal Commission would give them the opportunity to have
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Speaker 6: in camera conversations about how they've been victimized, how their
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Speaker 6: family have been victimized. You know, in those processes would
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Speaker 6: be able to protect them as well. But those conversations
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Speaker 6: do happen. But there is a lot of protection for
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Speaker 6: those who cause harm. In a traditional context, quite often
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Speaker 6: you are expected to defend your family even if they
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Speaker 6: have caused harm, or excuse family who have caused harm.
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Speaker 6: And this is an ongoing battle that we as those
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Speaker 6: who have experienced harm ourselves or have tried to protect
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Speaker 6: family members, have continued to face. You know, there there
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Speaker 6: are victims who often have to leave communities entirely for
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Speaker 6: their own safety because because they are not safe, and
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Speaker 6: they are not safe not just from the perpetrator who
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Speaker 6: might might have been re released from jail, but the
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Speaker 6: perpetrator's family, who will often go to the perpetrator's defense.
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Speaker 6: There are internal issues that we need to address honestly
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Speaker 6: ourselves as well, if we really are serious about protecting
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Speaker 6: our vulnerable. And when I talk about this, the worst
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Speaker 6: thing that happens is there are those who.
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Speaker 1: Accuse me of.
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Speaker 6: Being a race traitor. Well, I don't view average people
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Speaker 6: as just a race. I view Aboraginal Australians and the
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Speaker 6: victims within them as Australian citizens who deserve the same
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Speaker 6: protections as everybody in this country. And I don't think
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Speaker 6: we should be reduced to just simply race. And if
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Speaker 6: you have true concern for the welfare of our vulnerable,
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Speaker 6: then you would stand up for them no matter what,
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Speaker 6: and you wouldn't be attacking someone like me who has
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Speaker 6: been relentlessly talking about these issues to the point where
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Speaker 6: I'm exhausted from it. But we still have to keep going.
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Speaker 6: You still have to keep going.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, Senator, more power to you. Thank you very much
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Speaker 2: for interrupting what's happening there in Adelaide. I know that Sky,
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Speaker 2: particularly people like myself and Peter and others will talk
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Speaker 2: about it a lot, so appreciate your time. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: again soon. Thank you, Thank you, Steve. Senator andergen Price
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Speaker 2: Heremi oh, it's a bad problem that we've got to solve. Okay,
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Speaker 2: after the break. As I said, back to politics. It
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Speaker 2: seems like, you know, not that important after an issue
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Speaker 2: like that. But there is a by election in Victoria
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Speaker 2: this weekend, so how's it going to play out. I'll
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Speaker 2: talk to the state opposition leader Jess Wilson up next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to see Price with you. Okay, let's get
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Speaker 2: under these significant by elections that are going to happen
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Speaker 2: in the next fortnight full coverage on Sky tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: The first is the Victorian seat of Nepean, where I live,
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Speaker 2: so I actually have an interest in the outcome. And
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Speaker 2: the seat, of course was vacated by the former Liberal
23:36
Speaker 2: Deputy Liberal leader at the time, Sam Growth. It's shaping
23:39
Speaker 2: up as a real test of the status quo with
23:42
Speaker 2: a hit contest. I think between the liberal candidate Anthony Marsh,
23:46
Speaker 2: facing a challenge from One Nation's Darren herkis joining us
23:50
Speaker 2: on the line. She is, I think, still in Nepean.
23:53
Speaker 2: Down at rosebud Is opposition leader Jess Wilson. Thank you
23:56
Speaker 2: very much for making time to talk to us, feeling
24:01
Speaker 2: you've sat through all of that pre Pole.
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Speaker 1: I saw you.
24:03
Speaker 2: There earlier in the week. There weren't many voters when
24:06
Speaker 2: I was there, but you would have had plenty through
24:08
Speaker 2: there now, Jess, what are they telling you and what
24:10
Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen tomorrow.
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Speaker 8: I've good to be with you, Steve, and it was
24:15
Speaker 8: great to see you down at the rosebud Sea Scouts.
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Speaker 9: During the week.
24:19
Speaker 8: Look, we've had, you know, thousands of people come through
24:21
Speaker 8: pre Pole. Now nearly fifty percent of the electorate has
24:24
Speaker 8: already voted. And what I've heard day in day out
24:28
Speaker 8: when I've been listening to voters and I've been talking
24:30
Speaker 8: to them as they come in, is that.
24:32
Speaker 9: They're frustrated, Steve. They are really frustrated.
24:36
Speaker 8: That it's getting harder and harder for them and their
24:38
Speaker 8: families to get ahead. And they're saying to me that
24:41
Speaker 8: they're losing hope and to be honest, Steve.
24:44
Speaker 9: It breaks my heart.
24:45
Speaker 8: It breaks my heart that I'm hearing people come into
24:47
Speaker 8: the voting booth and say that they're losing hope.
24:50
Speaker 9: In this state because I love this state and I.
24:53
Speaker 8: Have real, real hope that we can get it back
24:56
Speaker 8: to where it used to be. And when I'm talking
24:59
Speaker 8: to them, I'm looking them the eye and they're saying
25:01
Speaker 8: to me, can you help us fix it?
25:03
Speaker 9: And that's my commitment to them, like my commitment to
25:05
Speaker 9: your viewers, is that we need to work together.
25:09
Speaker 8: We need to be honest that we have immense challenges
25:11
Speaker 8: in front of us here in Victoria. Whether it's our budget,
25:14
Speaker 8: whether it's the crime crisis, whether it's down here on
25:16
Speaker 8: the peninsula where local residents have been neglected for too
25:20
Speaker 8: long without the healthcare services they deserve.
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Speaker 9: We have huge.
25:23
Speaker 8: Challenges, but together we can fix it. And my commitment
25:27
Speaker 8: to them is to be upfront, to be honest, and
25:30
Speaker 8: to tell them that it isn't going to be easy.
25:33
Speaker 8: There are going to be tough decisions, but together we
25:35
Speaker 8: can do it.
25:37
Speaker 2: We should explain to our national audience it's a very
25:39
Speaker 2: diverse seat and you know you've got everything from multimillion
25:43
Speaker 2: dollar mansions on a cliff with some of Australia's wealthiest people,
25:47
Speaker 2: to parts of that electric where people can't find rental houses,
25:51
Speaker 2: where they can't afford to put food on the table,
25:54
Speaker 2: where their kids going to schools that are broken down
25:56
Speaker 2: and busted, where they've got a hospital in that area
25:59
Speaker 2: which has got the oldest age profile of any seat
26:03
Speaker 2: in Australia. The hospital is a shamble. So they have
26:09
Speaker 2: been ignored and they're not all a bunch of tops.
26:11
Speaker 2: They really do need help, don't they.
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Speaker 9: They desperately need a help down here.
26:17
Speaker 8: And the fact that we've seen the Peninsula, the residents
26:20
Speaker 8: of Nepan neglected for decades under this labor government just
26:24
Speaker 8: makes me really angry and frustrated the fact that Roosebard
26:28
Speaker 8: Hospital desperately needs an upgrade, and that's why I've been
26:31
Speaker 8: really proud to stand together with our candidate Anthony Marsh
26:34
Speaker 8: to announce that if we win government this year and
26:37
Speaker 8: I become the Premier of this state, my commitment to
26:41
Speaker 8: them is to make sure that we give the residents
26:43
Speaker 8: down here in thepn and the Peninsula the hospital they deserve.
26:47
Speaker 9: Under a government I.
26:48
Speaker 8: Lead, we will rebuild Rosebud Hospital.
26:51
Speaker 9: But it's more than just the healthcare services.
26:54
Speaker 8: You know, Steve, you drive on these roads every single
26:56
Speaker 8: day and they are littered with potholes. Fix a pothole myself.
27:01
Speaker 8: And what was the government's response to that to investigate
27:04
Speaker 8: me and my social media instead of actually getting on and.
27:07
Speaker 9: Fixing the roads.
27:09
Speaker 8: This is a government that has completely neglected the Mornington Peninsula.
27:12
Speaker 9: And enough is enough.
27:14
Speaker 8: And I say to the residents down here, put a
27:16
Speaker 8: number one next to Anthony Marsh. Help me take the
27:19
Speaker 8: next step to become your premiere so I can deliver
27:22
Speaker 8: the services you desperately need.
27:25
Speaker 2: So the decision to put a number two not against
27:27
Speaker 2: one nation but against the Libertarian can you just explain
27:30
Speaker 2: why you've done that?
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Speaker 8: Well, Steve, As you know, preferences happen at every election
27:35
Speaker 8: and they're a matter for the party. But what I'm
27:38
Speaker 8: focused on is putting a number one next to our
27:40
Speaker 8: candidate Anthony, and I, you know, don't expect that Anthony's.
27:44
Speaker 9: Preferences will be distributed.
27:46
Speaker 8: I expect that he'll finish sh at the top of
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Speaker 8: the ticket, and so we need to focus on how
27:50
Speaker 8: do we deliver our plan and that's what we've been
27:53
Speaker 8: talking to voters about over the past sixty odd days
27:56
Speaker 8: down here, our plan rebuilding roads by hospital, fixing laws roads,
28:00
Speaker 8: putting more cops on the beat here. As we've been
28:03
Speaker 8: door knocking and Anthony himself has door knocked more than
28:05
Speaker 8: three thousand doors. We've heard that residents down here don't
28:08
Speaker 8: feel safe in their own homes because of the crime
28:11
Speaker 8: crisis gripting this state. And my commitment in our first
28:14
Speaker 8: term to put an additional three thousand police on the
28:16
Speaker 8: beat will mean that there are more police down here
28:19
Speaker 8: in Rosebud, down here in Rye and Serrano and Dromana
28:22
Speaker 8: and Flinders. That's what we need to see, a government
28:24
Speaker 8: that is going to go back to basics and actually
28:27
Speaker 8: deliver the services the Victorians need. It's particularly in an
28:29
Speaker 8: area that has been neglected by the Labor government for
28:31
Speaker 8: too long.
28:33
Speaker 2: Just finally, speculation today in the media that Anthony Albanezi
28:37
Speaker 2: is about to between now and when you go to
28:39
Speaker 2: the polls in November, throw another bucket of money at
28:42
Speaker 2: the Suburban rail Loop, potentially billions of dollars. What's your
28:46
Speaker 2: reaction to that fact.
28:51
Speaker 8: Well, we know that Suburban rail Loop is a train
28:53
Speaker 8: line that Victorians cannot afford, and our commitment is to
28:57
Speaker 8: pause and review that project upon cut into government. It
29:01
Speaker 8: would be irresponsible of me, as the incoming premiere, to
29:04
Speaker 8: make a decision on a project of which we have
29:06
Speaker 8: no visibility of the contracts or the financial arrangements. Now,
29:10
Speaker 8: this is a government that has said this project will
29:13
Speaker 8: cost at least thirty five billion dollars.
29:15
Speaker 9: But that was five years ago, Steve.
29:17
Speaker 8: It's been this government that has said that construction costs
29:21
Speaker 8: and infrastructure costs have sort by at least twenty percent.
29:24
Speaker 8: So this is a project that is only blowing out.
29:27
Speaker 8: And the government has gone to the federal government and
29:29
Speaker 8: said we need at least eleven point five billion dollars
29:32
Speaker 8: from the federal government to fund this project, and there
29:34
Speaker 8: is a massive shortfall. This is a labor government that
29:37
Speaker 8: spins every single day. And I think Victorians are sick
29:41
Speaker 8: and tired of a premier and a government that are
29:43
Speaker 8: not being upfront with them. And what I say to
29:46
Speaker 8: voters is that I will be honest. I'm sick and
29:49
Speaker 8: tired of the crap like I know that you are.
29:51
Speaker 8: I'll be honest with you and we will make sure
29:53
Speaker 8: that we fix this state together. Because it desperately needs fixing,
29:57
Speaker 8: and my commitment is to take you on that journey
29:59
Speaker 8: and the tough decisions to make sure you have the
30:02
Speaker 8: best possible future and we bring hope back to Victoria.
30:06
Speaker 2: I know you've got a big day tomorrow, so thank
30:07
Speaker 2: you very much for joining us. I appreciate you staying
30:09
Speaker 2: there at Rosebud for us. That's a state opposition leader
30:12
Speaker 2: Jess Wilson. That poll will take place tomorrow.
30:15
Speaker 8: Now.
30:16
Speaker 2: I talk about crime, and Jess Wilson mentioned crime there.
30:19
Speaker 2: I mean Victoria has a crime crisis. It is right
30:22
Speaker 2: across the city, right across the state. I mean we've
30:26
Speaker 2: had a cigarette shops firebomb. Now it turns that we're
30:29
Speaker 2: getting things like hotels and restaurants are absolutely smashed as well.
30:35
Speaker 2: Have a look at this.
30:36
Speaker 1: We've worked so hard for so many years.
30:39
Speaker 6: We feel like, metaphorically and physically, we're getting punched in
30:43
Speaker 6: the place.
30:43
Speaker 9: I followed up with sin Kilda police station. I said,
30:47
Speaker 9: what the hell's going on?
30:49
Speaker 1: Where are the vans?
30:50
Speaker 9: Why hasn't anyone come.
30:51
Speaker 8: We have no hope because police seem so disinterested.
30:56
Speaker 2: As the owner of a sin Kilda pharmacy, her husband
30:59
Speaker 2: was punched in the fake, his glass is broken and
31:02
Speaker 2: guess what, Victoria police didn't turn up until the next day.
31:05
Speaker 2: Joining me now to discuss this from a homicide squad
31:08
Speaker 2: Detective Charlie Berzina, I mean, that makes you cry very much.
31:12
Speaker 1: So when.
31:14
Speaker 10: In this particular instance, I know Charlotte, she's part of
31:16
Speaker 10: our group that I'm part of community if you see Alliance,
31:20
Speaker 10: and every month we meet and every month she comes
31:24
Speaker 10: up with these stories in relation to non police support
31:27
Speaker 10: in the pharmacy that she has in Sint Kilda, and
31:30
Speaker 10: it's heartbreaking. And when I saw that footage and the
31:32
Speaker 10: police not turning up is absolutely tragic. And if that's
31:36
Speaker 10: in the state we live in, we're in big trouble.
31:39
Speaker 2: So her pharmacy, her and husband's pharmacy, is in an
31:41
Speaker 2: area of Saint Kilda that's renowned for drug use, and
31:46
Speaker 2: so she can't safely go about her business. I mean,
31:48
Speaker 2: I don't know how she's stuck it out for so long.
31:50
Speaker 10: Well, you walk down Fitzroy Street down there, and there's
31:52
Speaker 10: a lot of vacant shops, I can tell you, and
31:54
Speaker 10: that's people.
31:55
Speaker 1: So we can't lose people like this to the dread
31:58
Speaker 1: of drugs. So if that's the case.
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Speaker 10: I know they've got a special effort currently in Chapel
32:02
Speaker 10: Street and doing a great job, but I know there's
32:05
Speaker 10: very few resources, so let's put them in where the
32:08
Speaker 10: crime's happening and respond.
32:09
Speaker 2: I get. I heard Police Commissioner Bush on three o
32:12
Speaker 2: W today and he was saying, well, I wish we
32:15
Speaker 2: had got there faster now. I think Mike Bush is
32:17
Speaker 2: trying to do a very difficult job under very difficult
32:22
Speaker 2: circumstances in a state where the state government's broke and
32:25
Speaker 2: their resources are resources verty much. But to not turn
32:30
Speaker 2: up to an assault like that, it's not acceptable.
32:33
Speaker 10: It's not acceptable, especially a pharmacist or a business person.
32:36
Speaker 10: It's not on at all. Now you might get other
32:38
Speaker 10: ones and it's priority, and when they come up, I
32:40
Speaker 10: think I'm with an excuse.
32:41
Speaker 1: We were looking up with drug dealer. And I know
32:43
Speaker 1: that the.
32:44
Speaker 10: Chief Commissioner Bush is doing the best. He's been criticized
32:47
Speaker 10: heavily about closing police stations, but in closing police stations,
32:50
Speaker 10: I see that it's working because look at the arrest
32:52
Speaker 10: we've had with those fire by me just recently on
32:54
Speaker 10: the alcohol shops. You know that was great to have arrested,
32:58
Speaker 10: and that's putting the police backet where they should And.
33:00
Speaker 2: I've got a place around Chapel Street and I now
33:02
Speaker 2: see increased police numbers, actually their boots on the ground.
33:05
Speaker 2: Then yesterday we have a paramedic in a paramedics uniform
33:08
Speaker 2: driving a Paramedics van who's stabbed in broad daylight. Have
33:13
Speaker 2: a look at the union responding to that.
33:16
Speaker 3: Today I got a phone call that I hoped I
33:18
Speaker 3: would never have to receive that one of our paramedics
33:21
Speaker 3: had actually been stabbed and was being transported to hospital.
33:24
Speaker 2: There will be paramedics tonight who will be scared to
33:27
Speaker 2: go to work, and rightly so, because of this appalling violence.
33:33
Speaker 2: How does someone attack a person in a uniform whose
33:36
Speaker 2: job it is to save people's lives with a bladed weapon.
33:40
Speaker 10: Absolutely, and that's the type of people who've got in
33:41
Speaker 10: our community mentally impaired, dragon juice or or just absolutely
33:46
Speaker 10: crazy to.
33:46
Speaker 1: Be doing something.
33:47
Speaker 10: But I couldn't get over the fact that this government
33:50
Speaker 10: had a provision in there get out of clause of saying, oh,
33:54
Speaker 10: they've got to be on duty.
33:56
Speaker 1: You're kidding me, they're on a break. There's ludicrous.
33:59
Speaker 2: That'd be like saying you know, if someone stabs a
34:01
Speaker 2: police officer with his uniform on the train, going oh yeah,
34:04
Speaker 2: then it's not a crime.
34:05
Speaker 1: Exactly right, crime, of course it is.
34:07
Speaker 10: And we've had three other major ones where paramedic at
34:10
Speaker 10: his arm broken and the two women got off Scott friend.
34:12
Speaker 1: There's been other cases where they've been attacked.
34:15
Speaker 10: We have got to protect our frontline people and the
34:18
Speaker 10: way to do it is lock these munglers up.
34:21
Speaker 2: If you were the police minister, and I wish you were,
34:25
Speaker 2: what would be the first thing you would do.
34:27
Speaker 10: Well, I'll be talking, sit down with my Attorney General
34:30
Speaker 10: and saying right, you've got to go and talk to
34:31
Speaker 10: your judges, your magistrates that you've appointed, and saying the
34:35
Speaker 10: sentences are there, maximum sentences are there, Mandated sentences are
34:39
Speaker 10: there with these assault on emergency service workers ranged six
34:42
Speaker 10: months to five years and this is in the five year.
34:45
Speaker 1: Range for this particular paramedic.
34:47
Speaker 10: Is start doing that and showing our frontline police they
34:50
Speaker 10: are protected, our ambos, our SCS workers. You need to
34:54
Speaker 10: add doctors and all the ones doing the frontline police
34:56
Speaker 10: work unless the police are doing their job.
34:59
Speaker 2: But as we know, the the magistrates bench has been
35:01
Speaker 2: stacked by labor appointees, correct, who don't think that punishing
35:05
Speaker 2: someone by putting them behind bars is something you should
35:08
Speaker 2: be doing. You should be I don't know, molly coddling
35:10
Speaker 2: them and giving them some sort of put an arm
35:12
Speaker 2: around them and make them a better person. These people
35:14
Speaker 2: are walking around the street with machetes and knives and
35:18
Speaker 2: slashing people, correct.
35:19
Speaker 1: And that's where it all breaks down.
35:22
Speaker 10: We don't want any harm to be put on in
35:24
Speaker 10: the judiciary, but these people, they're inexperienced, particularly magistrates. We've
35:29
Speaker 10: got probably I don't know what the number was the
35:32
Speaker 10: backlog in the magistrates court and now in the candy court.
35:35
Speaker 1: At all time, at our crimes going to the candy court,
35:37
Speaker 1: they're going to be backlogged.
35:39
Speaker 10: So let's start attacking these people as their attacking us
35:43
Speaker 10: and saying, you know what, receivitists.
35:44
Speaker 1: You're in the bin.
35:45
Speaker 2: And now it seems that we've gone from burning down
35:47
Speaker 2: tobacco shops to threatening people who run entertainment venues because
35:52
Speaker 2: as far as I can work out, organized crimes got
35:54
Speaker 2: their hands on the liquor industry and they realize that
35:57
Speaker 2: they can sell dodgy liquor to these people and make
36:00
Speaker 2: money out of it very much, so they don't take it.
36:03
Speaker 2: Their business gets threatened exactly. Mafia extortion, of course it is,
36:07
Speaker 2: and it's you.
36:08
Speaker 10: That's what they call racketeering over in the USA, and
36:11
Speaker 10: they attack that and quite.
36:12
Speaker 1: Heavily with penalties.
36:14
Speaker 10: Now, the big issue for these liquor stores and these
36:16
Speaker 10: nightclubs is a people aren't out about for the tobacco
36:19
Speaker 10: shops late at night, but they are late at night.
36:22
Speaker 10: Says going to come a time there's going to be
36:24
Speaker 10: a mass killing with these right bo shaving.
36:26
Speaker 2: Revolver in Chapel Street. Someone will said, fire to it.
36:28
Speaker 2: Upstairs there will be two under people, correct.
36:30
Speaker 1: And then they might take notice and say, jeez, we're
36:33
Speaker 1: going to do something now. All too late. You tell
36:35
Speaker 1: that to the relatives.
36:36
Speaker 2: How hard is it to crack down on racketeering.
36:40
Speaker 1: It's not hard at all.
36:41
Speaker 10: If you know the penalties there and you start whacking
36:42
Speaker 10: these people same as drug importation, you start giving them
36:45
Speaker 10: life imprisonment. That's where we've got to be and send
36:48
Speaker 10: that message, and you might the community, like Jess Wilson said,
36:51
Speaker 10: give the community the confidence in their government. And we're
36:54
Speaker 10: sick of the retric and the smoke and mirrors by
36:56
Speaker 10: the current government.
36:57
Speaker 1: They're not doing their.
36:58
Speaker 2: Job as I said you should be policeman. Thank you, Charlie,
37:02
Speaker 2: Charlie Bisina. Coming up after the break, the Interim Report
37:05
Speaker 2: into the Bondai massacre. Does it go far enough? And
37:08
Speaker 2: will Jewish Australians get the answers they actually need? That's
37:11
Speaker 2: up next. Welcome back to Steve Price with you want
37:17
Speaker 2: to look now at the High Court Judge Virginia former
37:20
Speaker 2: High Court Judge Virginia Bell's interim report into the Bondai massacre.
37:24
Speaker 2: Critics have already had a crack at it, but does
37:27
Speaker 2: it answer the critical questions about radicalization, policing failures, ongoing
37:32
Speaker 2: threats to Australia's Jewish community. A lot in the Jewish community,
37:36
Speaker 2: I think, have said, look, it's okay, but it's not
37:40
Speaker 2: exactly what we need for Queensland Premier Campbell Newman joins
37:43
Speaker 2: us every Friday Night is with us now. I haven't
37:45
Speaker 2: had a chance to read the whole interim report, obviously, Campbell.
37:49
Speaker 2: Virginia Bell has the Royal Commission running right through until
37:53
Speaker 2: I think next year. What did you make of the
37:56
Speaker 2: recommendations as you've seen them so far.
38:00
Speaker 7: Well, I think she's going to need to do a
38:02
Speaker 7: lot better than this. Steve and I have a real
38:05
Speaker 7: whiff already of the guilty suspects being led off and
38:11
Speaker 7: a whole lot of sort of efforts at misdirection of
38:15
Speaker 7: us all about what's really.
38:17
Speaker 1: Gone on here.
38:17
Speaker 7: I mean, we already know that there's some a pretty
38:22
Speaker 7: dubious response at the time to a heightened concern about
38:27
Speaker 7: security by the new South Wales Police, and the Police
38:30
Speaker 7: Commissioner was having to deal with that yesterday. The idea
38:34
Speaker 7: that the criticism seem at this stage be muted about
38:38
Speaker 7: the Intelligence Agency ASO and the AFP, well, I just
38:43
Speaker 7: don't buy that. When you get a recommendation that says
38:46
Speaker 7: we've got to have tougher gun laws, but we do
38:49
Speaker 7: have tough gun laws since the tragedy of Port Arthur
38:52
Speaker 7: thirty years ago, how many mass shootings have we had, Well,
38:56
Speaker 7: the answer is we really haven't. But we've got tough
39:00
Speaker 7: en up the gun laws because the police didn't do
39:04
Speaker 7: their job with existing laws. I could go on, but
39:07
Speaker 7: I am already of the view that this is an
39:10
Speaker 7: exercise in bs.
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Speaker 2: It struck me that what would have been a better
39:15
Speaker 2: way to go would have been to stick with Dennis Richardson,
39:17
Speaker 2: let him do his short, sharp report. He's a no
39:20
Speaker 2: nonsense bloke. You've dealt with him, I've interviewed him before.
39:24
Speaker 2: Dennis Richardson would have got to the heart of this,
39:27
Speaker 2: maybe too harshly and too quickly for some politicians liking
39:32
Speaker 2: by the sound of things.
39:35
Speaker 7: Well, Steve, it's like this as someone who's burning politics,
39:39
Speaker 7: whenever I see a recommendation about more money, I immediately
39:44
Speaker 7: am suspicious because to the viewers of this Seeving, I
39:49
Speaker 7: say to them, when someone says more money, that's just
39:52
Speaker 7: a smoke screen to actually let public.
39:56
Speaker 1: Servants off the hook.
39:58
Speaker 7: People who are paid very significant salary packages, who are
40:03
Speaker 7: charged with grave responsibilities to protect us, to serve our interests,
40:07
Speaker 7: who don't do their job and what they do. Then
40:10
Speaker 7: in times like this they say, well, we didn't have
40:12
Speaker 7: enough resources. We give us more resources, or give us
40:16
Speaker 7: tougher laws and we'll do a better job. Well, what
40:20
Speaker 7: we need is political will from the top, and we
40:23
Speaker 7: need public servants in senior positions to drive the necessary outcomes.
40:29
Speaker 7: That's what's required here. For two years we watched people
40:34
Speaker 7: like me anyway, watch with horror what was going on
40:37
Speaker 7: the streets of Australia, and for two years people in
40:40
Speaker 7: authority Australia let it run. We saw hate speeches going
40:45
Speaker 7: on in certain communities in Sydney and Melbourne.
40:49
Speaker 1: Nothing was done.
40:51
Speaker 7: We saw the Jewish community calling for action back then,
40:54
Speaker 7: prior to BONDI, and nothing was done. Now you can
40:58
Speaker 7: tell I'm pretty fired up about this, but I can
41:01
Speaker 7: say right now, our Commissioner, you better do a really,
41:04
Speaker 7: a really good job of this, otherwise you will have
41:07
Speaker 7: not one shred of credibility. And this interim report, as
41:10
Speaker 7: far as I'm concerned, is showing all the signs of
41:14
Speaker 7: a whitewash.
41:16
Speaker 2: I mean when you go back to the practicality of it,
41:18
Speaker 2: and I keep shaking my head when I keep hearing
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Speaker 2: that there was three police officers only that went to
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Speaker 2: that Artcer event three and it was already in the
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Speaker 2: middle through increased security issues.
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Speaker 7: Well, well, Steve, we have heard one thing about you know,
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Speaker 7: funding you know has been dropped for counter terrorism at
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Speaker 7: a time when the threat level has gone up. I mean,
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Speaker 7: I say to some people in the Jewish community, be careful,
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Speaker 7: don't be too kind of this government, you know, and
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Speaker 7: don't be kind of the New South Wales Police, you know,
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Speaker 7: the Jewish security mob whose name escapes he begins with C.
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Speaker 7: They put their own threat assessment forward and yesterday I
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Speaker 7: watched just just I couldn't believe it when I was
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Speaker 7: watching the New South Wales Police commissioner go, oh, well,
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Speaker 7: we do.
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Speaker 1: Our own threats threat assessments.
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Speaker 7: Because the next question I would have hit him with
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Speaker 7: if I'd been at that press conference, was well, surely, commissioner,
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Speaker 7: you would acknowledge that your threat assessments are no damn
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Speaker 7: good because clearly they weren't on that particular occasion. Like,
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Speaker 7: what a stupid response from the commissioner.
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Speaker 1: They got it wrong.
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Speaker 7: They got it wrong on the guns and those guys
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Speaker 7: having guns.
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Speaker 1: And what I'm worried.
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Speaker 7: About is when we're hear calls for tougher gun law regulation,
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Speaker 7: et cetera, that is all about a distraction. Go over here,
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Speaker 7: look over here, whereas people again who were in positions
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Speaker 7: of authority to run the administration of tough gun laws,
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Speaker 7: which we have failed us failed the Jewish community. But
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Speaker 7: just look over here. We need tougher gun laws. Oh,
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Speaker 7: and give us more resources and we'll do better next time.
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Speaker 1: We're very sorry. You know what's wrong?
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Speaker 2: Words yeah, absolutely strong words, and I agree with you.
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Speaker 7: Someone site made and again and again the Jewish community.
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Speaker 7: I say to them, don't let them off the hawk.
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Speaker 7: Don't let the commissioner off the hawks drong because it's
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Speaker 7: not good enough.
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Speaker 2: So far, good words, great note, Thank you. I'll talk
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Speaker 2: to your next Friday Campbell Newman there. I agree with
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Speaker 2: everything he just said. Coming up after the break speculation,
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Speaker 2: the PM may be ready to hand as I mentioned,
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Speaker 2: Melbourne's suburban railroop billions of your tax dollars. What about
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Speaker 2: throwing that kind of cash into things Victorians actually need?
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Speaker 2: The Friday Panel up next, Welcome back, busy night, tonight
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Speaker 2: breaking news. I just want to reference an incident unfolding.
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Speaker 2: This is in Queensland. Two teenagers are fighting for life
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Speaker 2: and eight others, including a toddler, are seriously injured. This
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Speaker 2: is a horror multi car crash, allegedly cause can you
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Speaker 2: believe it, by a fourteen year old at the wheel.
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Speaker 2: We'll have updates on that through the night. Okay, let's
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Speaker 2: get straight into more issues of the week. The Friday
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Speaker 2: Night Panel Skyne is contributed to Joe Hildebrand and Executive
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Speaker 2: director of the Samuel Griffith Society, Mia Schlipp. Both join us.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. I want to start mea with you.
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Speaker 2: The suburban rail loop. Speculation today in the nine newspapers
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Speaker 2: that the PM's ready to pour billions into the suburban
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Speaker 2: rail Loop in the lead up, of course, to the
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Speaker 2: November election, helping out his mateor center Allen. He's got
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Speaker 2: to be kidding, doesn't he.
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Speaker 5: Oh, this would just be a huge mistake, Steve. It
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Speaker 5: would be so unpopular this project. Victoria can't afford it.
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Speaker 5: It's completely unnecessary and it's insanely unpopular. I cannot understand
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Speaker 5: why the Prime Minister want to touch this with a
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Speaker 5: ten foot pole.
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Speaker 9: I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 5: There's only one group that is interested in seeing this
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Speaker 5: project go ahead, and that's when you drive past all
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Speaker 5: of these sites where holes already been dug in the ground,
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Speaker 5: you'll see a few diggers, and on those diggers you'll
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Speaker 5: see some flags flying.
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Speaker 9: Those are the black and white flags.
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Speaker 5: Of the Sea FMU. And that is the only group
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Speaker 5: who's interested in seeing this project go ahead.
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Speaker 2: How's the PM going to sell this to the wider
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Speaker 2: electric joe when you know you're not going to be
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Speaker 2: catching the Suburban rail Loop from Cheltenham to box Hill.
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Speaker 2: I don't presume. I mean, I know you come from Victoria.
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Speaker 2: I do. I reckon it a long time since you've
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Speaker 2: been in box Hill mate.
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Speaker 11: To be honest, I'm a bit of a sucker for
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Speaker 11: a train like the PM. He loves the training and
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Speaker 11: training nut like me. And obviously the suburban rail loop
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Speaker 11: is just eye wateringly expensive. But I grew up in
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Speaker 11: Danyong and I all I ever wanted was to be
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Speaker 11: able to get to see my cousins in Belgrave or
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Speaker 11: go to Ringwood. I used to have to get the
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Speaker 11: bus from Danny Noong to Ringwood stud Road. And no, no,
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Speaker 11: not the Danny k Noong's price. Dannyong, the one with
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Speaker 11: all the concrete and the crime.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 11: So I always liked the idea of a suburban rail loup.
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Speaker 11: But obviously it is just crazy expensive. But Albo a
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Speaker 11: very loyal person. He is friends with Justin Allen, and
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Speaker 11: I think he will help her out.
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Speaker 2: That's what he does. He's very loyal when he's spending
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Speaker 2: someone else's money. Speaking of which, an infrastructure. The Sydney
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph, your paper had an event today, the editor
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Speaker 2: Ben English was with the Prime Minister out at the
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Speaker 2: new Western Sydney Airport at Badgery's Creek. You and I
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Speaker 2: have been around a longer than Mia has. Did you
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Speaker 2: ever think this thing would ever open again?
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Speaker 11: This was an incredible moment. I was out there as well.
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Speaker 11: It is the most incredible facility. It hasn't opened yet,
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Speaker 11: but just the space the terminal on both the inside
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Speaker 11: and out is just it honestly makes you gasp. Albo
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Speaker 11: made the point that it was in fact Bob Hawk
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Speaker 11: who turned the first sod on this project, what was
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Speaker 11: it three decades ago, more even forty years ago, and
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Speaker 11: it's just been beset and plagued ever since. The telegraph
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Speaker 11: camp pained really really hard for it. Albow was on
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Speaker 11: board from the beginning as well, which was fantastic, and
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Speaker 11: the idea that it's actually going to happen and have
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Speaker 11: its own metro line as well is just super super exciting.
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Speaker 11: It's a whole new city that is basically being built
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Speaker 11: from scratch in the middle of Western Sydney.
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Speaker 2: How exciting me? Are you going to be able to
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Speaker 2: fly from Melbourne to Western Sydney about thirty five kilometers
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Speaker 2: away from the CBD. That'd be fun for us all,
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Speaker 2: weren't it.
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Speaker 5: Sixty It's certainly very far away, and from my understanding,
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Speaker 5: the trains won't be delivered for another year, so I'm
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Speaker 5: not quite sure who's going to be able to actually
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Speaker 5: use this project.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, a bit of a long way to the platform,
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Speaker 11: but they're coming soon.
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Speaker 2: Well, who is going to land there, Joe? I mean
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Speaker 2: what airlines are going to use it?
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Speaker 11: Well, I think they're signed a deal with Singapore Airlines
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Speaker 11: to be the first. That's just from memory. But basically
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Speaker 11: you've got the there you go. You've got about two
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Speaker 11: million people. It's actually the demographic capital, demographic heart of Sydney.
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Speaker 11: So obviously you've got all the scenery on the eastern seaboard,
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Speaker 11: but most of the people actually live in the west.
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Speaker 11: It's got a huge migrant community. I think one in
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Speaker 11: three have overseas backgrounds or born overseas, so they're coming
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Speaker 11: back and forth from the Old Country as well. And
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Speaker 11: there's a huge amount of industry there as well. It's
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Speaker 11: the biggest manufacturing powerhouse in Australia as well, so it's
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Speaker 11: got a huge amount to huge amount to offer people.
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Speaker 11: It doesn't have the views it's got that well.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If I was an international tourist flying into Sydney, I
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Speaker 2: want to end up out there. But that's it. Thank
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Speaker 2: you Joe, thank you Mia. That's it from me. A reminder,
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Speaker 2: Sky News will have live coverage tomorrow night of the
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Speaker 2: Nepean by election that starts at six o'clock Eastern time,
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Speaker 2: so make sure you tune in. I'll see you next week.