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Big Stu-ey: Your Dad Has Enough Money (w/ Michael Wilbon) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: We have two Hall of famers, a couple of MIC's
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  Speaker 1: gotten it up. A funny thing happened to me in
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  Speaker 1: Evanston over the weekend. As you know, Michael Olic senior
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  Speaker 1: Michael Wilbon is a proud alum of Northwestern University. It's
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  Speaker 1: a magical place. I saw him at the lacrosse finals,
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  Speaker 1: Northwestern one yet another national championship, and Michael was so nice,
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  Speaker 1: so attentive, spend so much quality time talking and speaking
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  Speaker 1: with my daughter after the game that it moved me
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  Speaker 1: on a very emotional weekend. It really moved me to
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  Speaker 1: see how much care and how much thought Michael put
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  Speaker 1: in to the conversation he had with Rachel and he
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  Speaker 1: joins us right now here to start off the show. Michael,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: How are you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. I'm just you know, trying to
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  Speaker 3: enjoy what seems to be a day off in this
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  Speaker 3: epic series between San Antonio and and and okay, see
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, and you're still getting over the high of
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  Speaker 3: the weekend with winning that lacrosse championships to guy, So
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  Speaker 3: that was that was good, mister Gullick. It's been too long.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Michael, doing well, my friend. Always great to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you. And I'm wondering, I hate to start this
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  Speaker 2: out with a zinger to you and Northwestern all right,
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  Speaker 2: going and watching the women's lacrosse women national championship? Is
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  Speaker 2: that because you know they won't get one in football,
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  Speaker 2: so you have to watch another sport win the national title.
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  Speaker 3: No, we just know other people that like to think
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  Speaker 3: they're superior athletes and won't get down.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Michael, Mike, Mike, if Indiana could
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  Speaker 1: do it, Northwestern could do it right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know listen that you know that we get
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  Speaker 3: into that whole why can't Why not us sing like
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks fans are intoy now? And you know it's
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  Speaker 3: interesting because you know, I grew up in Illinois, I
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  Speaker 3: grew up next door to I know far more people
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  Speaker 3: who went to IU from my life as a kid
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  Speaker 3: and a teenager than I did and went to Northwestern. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: so many kids went to IU, including my my idol,
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  Speaker 3: Quinn Buckner. My athletic idol when I was growing up
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  Speaker 3: was Quinn Buckner. Even though Quinn's only a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years older than me, he was just the the the
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  Speaker 3: the athlete in Chicago when I was a kid, when
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  Speaker 3: we were kids, and so I I, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't Indiana. You know, you know my wife went to Duke,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, acc people can't stand each other. She
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  Speaker 3: doesn't understand. She's like, why do you root for? Why
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  Speaker 3: are you rooting for Indiana? Or how come sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: root for you know, Produeer. I'm like, because we're not
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  Speaker 3: like you people. We're not. That's why the Big ten
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  Speaker 3: network works. That's why the Big Ten make more money
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  Speaker 3: in tell media deals than the rest of you people,
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  Speaker 3: because the Big ten people. Actually, I can root for Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: I can root for Wisconsin to often do. I never
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  Speaker 3: revealed that I ever root for Notre Dames, and I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to get people like my friend Michael hard time.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I grew up ninety miles from Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: This even though I like to say I hate Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 3: I don't in any way. And it's a magical place too.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that Midwestern sensibility, if you will, that
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  Speaker 3: has a real impact on my life. So I yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I root it for Indiana all the way last year,
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  Speaker 3: all the way.
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  Speaker 1: The great Michael Wobot is with us here Michael, You're
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  Speaker 1: the perfect person to do this for us, just putting
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  Speaker 1: this into perspective. You have spent your entire life covering
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, the Knicks, just making it to the NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 1: If you could put it in perspective for me, for
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  Speaker 1: the audience, for goal of just what it means to
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, that city, that fan base, and that organization.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's so funny, you know, as I'm talking about
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  Speaker 3: my Midwestern roots and I'm in chicagoan through and through,
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  Speaker 3: but I spent professionally. I've been going to Madison Square
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  Speaker 3: Garden to cover Knicks games and parts of seasons and
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  Speaker 3: playoff series in their entirety for forty five years, so
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  Speaker 3: way more than half of my adult life to you know,
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  Speaker 3: three quarters of it. I mean, I've been able to
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  Speaker 3: observe the Knicks. And there are people in my life
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  Speaker 3: who would be I've become friends with who. Patrick Ewing
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  Speaker 3: is a dear and close friend, and I get to
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  Speaker 3: see him every Knicks game now because he's there in
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  Speaker 3: the garden as if this was the nineteen eighties, and
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  Speaker 3: I know I work with talk about dear friends Tony
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  Speaker 3: Corn as Tony was at the famous Willis reed game
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  Speaker 3: May eighth, nineteen seventy Tony was I don't know he
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  Speaker 3: was a teenager. He was at that game, and so
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  Speaker 3: I have a sense of it. With being a longer
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  Speaker 3: suffering Cubs fan over twice as long, I still have
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  Speaker 3: a sense of what Knicks fans want, what they're about,
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  Speaker 3: what it means. I don't know that it means as
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  Speaker 3: much as the league. I think that's over stated. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think these things mean anything to
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  Speaker 3: the league. Star players mean everything to that league. Victor
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  Speaker 3: Winmbanyama right now is more important to that league than
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  Speaker 3: than any team, including the Knicks. But having said that,
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  Speaker 3: and that's just that's my theory on that league. I
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I Josh Josh Hart went to my
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  Speaker 3: son's rival high school, Sidwell Friends here in d C.
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  Speaker 3: And I've gotten to know Josh Hart and off seasons
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  Speaker 3: and stuff that happens here at home home. I'm in
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  Speaker 3: DC right now, and I root for Josh Hart. I
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  Speaker 3: love Josh Hart. Jalen Brunson Chicago kids who I've followed
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  Speaker 3: since he was the Chicago kid when his father Rick
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  Speaker 3: was was assisting for the Bulls, and so the Knicks
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  Speaker 3: of I just find them very likable. Karl Anthony Town
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  Speaker 3: to me, is as likable a figure if you get
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  Speaker 3: to know people personally in the NBA as there is.
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  Speaker 3: He's had some heartache in his life as a young
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  Speaker 3: adult and easy to root for. But I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to overstate it. I don't think. I do not think
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  Speaker 3: that the Knicks internationally are the story. If they play
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio. I think, okay See will win Game seven.
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  Speaker 3: But man, when Banyama is the story. When Banyama individually
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  Speaker 3: is the story in the NBA, He's the watchable person.
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  Speaker 3: He is the young faith of that league.
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  Speaker 2: He is He is the old radio adage of who
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  Speaker 2: would you spend the most money to watch in a sport?
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  Speaker 2: It would be Victor win Minyama right now. There's no
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  Speaker 2: doubt about that. What do you say? What do you
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  Speaker 2: say to Nick fans who arguably should feel good about
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  Speaker 2: themselves and their team too good? Though about saying, boy,
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  Speaker 2: everything is everything is lining up for us. We sweep
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  Speaker 2: the Cavs, we have all this rest, we are going
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  Speaker 2: to win the title.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, Mike, this is crazy. I sort
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  Speaker 3: of believe that, and I believe that the Ali Frasier
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  Speaker 3: nature of this Western Conference final works in the Knicks favor. Two. Look,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think both those teams are better than
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks. Do I think the Knicks can and they
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  Speaker 3: may very well be whoever emergers, Yes, I do, because
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  Speaker 3: I think, Look, the rest is not gonna hurt them
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  Speaker 3: because Game one is in the West anyway, right, So
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks is gonna be rusty in game one, just
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  Speaker 3: like they were rusty in Game one against Cleveland. They
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  Speaker 3: were rusty in game one against I guess it was
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  Speaker 3: Game two against Philly. Yeah, they're they The rest is
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be rusty, but they're gonna you know, they
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  Speaker 3: can play out of it in Game one in the West.
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  Speaker 3: And if they get blown out of that game because
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  Speaker 3: they're rusty, so what they still they still got you know,
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  Speaker 3: three at home, plus another one to get back in
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio or Okay. See, so I actually, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this. I actually buy what
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks fans are selling. Yeah. By the way, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, and you guys know this, I mean you
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  Speaker 3: you've been around the stuffer as long as I have.
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  Speaker 3: I find the Knicks players and Mike Brown has been
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  Speaker 3: a personal friend. I find that team easy to root for.
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  Speaker 3: It's Nicks fans I hate, not the team Nick fans.
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  Speaker 3: Knicks fans are the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, Michael. They want us to act like
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  Speaker 1: we've been there before. But here's the problem. We've never
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  Speaker 1: been here before.
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  Speaker 3: You know, well, you had this to that fat year.
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  Speaker 3: You know you're a little bit too young to have
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  Speaker 3: seen this. I was eleven years old the first time
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks got to the finals, and I was watching
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  Speaker 3: with my father, you know on TV when you got
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  Speaker 3: one game a week and you didn't see that much sullivanion,
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: you got the Knicks, And I remember thinking, wow, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's no Bill Russell because he retired the year just
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  Speaker 3: the year earlier, so there's no Russell. The Knicks get there,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm old enough to have I do. I remember it,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not vividly. I remember the seventy three one vividly,
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  Speaker 3: the seventy I don't. But I think it sets up
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  Speaker 3: well for the team. That does. Mitchell Robinson, you know
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  Speaker 3: hand thing, But I think it's I think it sets
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  Speaker 3: them well for them, and my Knicks friends and family
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  Speaker 3: members who are Knicks fans They're gonna drive me crazy
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna hate them within three days, but I
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  Speaker 3: really like the team.
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  Speaker 2: Do you in a in a general question, do you
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  Speaker 2: think for forgetting like the fans of who they want
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  Speaker 2: to see? Do you think the league is happy with
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  Speaker 2: the three teams left because we used to have, you
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  Speaker 2: know this, the teams that we're trying to build with
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  Speaker 2: two and three superstars. You know, San Antonio has one
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  Speaker 2: in one Yama, New York. I guess Jalen Brunson would
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  Speaker 2: be considered that. Do you think the league is happy with? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is now how our league needs to be, not
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  Speaker 2: trying to put two and three superstars together on a team.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? In that model, Mike, I do believe that,
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  Speaker 3: and it also takes some pressure off of the you know, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the league, but teams can I find it. Look,
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  Speaker 3: some teams free agents only go two places and people
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  Speaker 3: can check them. People will say, oh, you know Jalen Brunton,
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  Speaker 3: that wound up being a trade situation in Jalen Brnston
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  Speaker 3: was a second round draft pick. Teams players superstar free agency,
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  Speaker 3: we go to South Florida and southern California. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's all. They don't go to San Antonio, they don't
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  Speaker 3: go to Chicago, they don't go to New York. They
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  Speaker 3: don't they go to southern California and South Florida. They
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  Speaker 3: might get traded to those other destinations, but it's free agents.
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  Speaker 3: So it's harder to build the team that way. And
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  Speaker 3: so yes, I think that when you looked at now,
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: you know, the legal course now wants to go after tanking,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is largely a bogus issue because I
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: think that most years it ain't worth tanking. For this
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: year it appears to have been that worth that. But
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  Speaker 3: when you look at teams that have sort of grown
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  Speaker 3: more organically, and the Nixt certainly were. They didn't have
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: you know, some you know, you know, wim Ban Yama,
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  Speaker 3: Tim Junsan like lottery luck. They had to really put
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: this together, and they were smart with targeting Brunton, who
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: have been a second round draft pick. And Dallas didn't
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  Speaker 3: really you know, appreciate or think they wanted to keep
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: with Luca and for all the reasons if the Mavericks
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  Speaker 3: unwisely let him go. The Knicks were smart about the
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  Speaker 3: way they put this team together. The trade for Karl
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Towns the trade for for Anonobi. So yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's because they play in New York.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the other factor you mentioned, which is
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  Speaker 3: how how it was a symbol.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Michael Taylor here, I'm a massive Knicks fan. The
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  Speaker 4: Knicks are really the only thing I have going in
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  Speaker 4: my life right now. Is Jalen Brunson already on the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks Mount Rushmore or does he have to win a
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: title to get there?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I think you gotta win a title. Look, okay, so
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: I never did the Nick mount Rushmore. We do the
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  Speaker 3: greatest argument, the greatest Nick ever argument. For me, some
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  Speaker 3: of my age is it's Walt Fraser. I mean, Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Ewing is a dear, dear friend, but he didn't win.
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  Speaker 3: He was great. He may be the greatest Nick in
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  Speaker 3: terms of time of service and getting close and he
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  Speaker 3: got to the finals. I get it. But Fraser is
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  Speaker 3: on that. To me. Monroe is on that. To me,
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  Speaker 3: the on the on the on the Mount Rushmore, Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Ewing is on that. To me, We're talking four and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who the fourth is. Maybe. I mean
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  Speaker 3: people Tony would say, how dare you not put Bill
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  Speaker 3: Bradley on it. How dare you not put Earl Monroe?
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  Speaker 3: Earl Monroe is a Washington bullet, Baltimore bullet as much
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  Speaker 3: to me as a Nick. So maybe I would put
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  Speaker 3: Brunson on. You can put Bernard King on, but he
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: didn't get to the finals. So maybe Brunson is on
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  Speaker 3: that list for me. But to be the greatest Nick ever,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta win Clyde and Row, I mean Clyden Fraser
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  Speaker 3: and Bill Bradley, they won two. You're not gonna get
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  Speaker 3: me to leap frog those guys great players, Hall of Famers,
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  Speaker 3: Alzheimer's You're not gonna get me to jump the list
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  Speaker 3: when you don't have one. That's not the way that
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  Speaker 3: works for me.
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  Speaker 1: Michael, forgetting about the superstars in the state of the
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  Speaker 1: NBA for a second. I think what's great about this
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  Speaker 1: playoff for the NBA is you have market number one,
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  Speaker 1: who has already secured a spot in the NBA Finals,
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  Speaker 1: and the smallest market in the NBA trying to go
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  Speaker 1: back to back. Right, it's crazy. Everyone has a shot.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's good. Look, that's what that's what it's been.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: You know, one of the many secret sauces for the
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: NFL is that nobody even thinks about the market size
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  Speaker 3: of Green Bay. I mean, I mean they've won in
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  Speaker 3: the ancient NFL and the modern NFL they won and
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  Speaker 3: and the smallest market and smaller I think still that
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  Speaker 3: any market in the NBA. Yeah, the small certainly smallers
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  Speaker 3: in San Antonio. So yeah, I think that's a I
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  Speaker 3: think that works. We've we've seen Milwaukee win again, so
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: just in the in the in the most recent since COVID,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: you know, NBA Finals, We've we've had small market teams
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  Speaker 3: with the San Antonio's back. So I tell you a
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  Speaker 3: team you've been a roue, looked for, looked for in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the next three to five years that could
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: pull up in their rear view mirror, not five, the
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: next two to three years is Utah. No matter who
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: they picked, Utah is assembling right now in front of
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: our eyes, a contending roster like next year, play in
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  Speaker 3: or playoffs. The next year, it could be like okay,
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  Speaker 3: see with with with good health and a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of draft luck, Utah is gonna be there. So you
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  Speaker 3: have another small market team. I think that's healthy. I
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  Speaker 3: think everybody's fans all to think they have a chance,
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  Speaker 3: and then what stands in the way. If something stands
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  Speaker 3: in the way is incoonfidence, not the size of your city.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, I tell you a Futah jumps in. Like you
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  Speaker 2: said that the depth in the west is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: So crazy.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot of let's talk. We talked a
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: lot of macro. Let's go micro. Who are the Knicks
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  Speaker 2: playing next Tuesday?
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  Speaker 3: In game one, Mike, I think that it's okay See.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I just think when you get at the late of
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: these playoffs and you guys know this, who got you
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: know that you've been watching stuff forever. When you look
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  Speaker 3: at the games five, six, seven, and the home team
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  Speaker 3: wins and they become increasingly blowouts, I think what that
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  Speaker 3: demonstrates largely is, you know, when we're in this place
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  Speaker 3: defending something that's dear to us, Okay See is and
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: they're working up a healthy dislike for each other. Now,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: those two teams did not dislike each other to say, okay,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: weimby and chet Okay, fine, the teams didn't. We saw
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: it last night, though we saw disliked last night. I
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: think okay See goes home and defends that. I said
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  Speaker 3: yesterday before the game, I thought that Wimby had another
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  Speaker 3: great performance in him. I didn't know if he had two.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, people naively watch this stuff. People players,
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  Speaker 3: even the greatest players, don't have five or six great
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: games in the series. They they could have three. If
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  Speaker 3: they have four, it's an all timer. If Wimby has
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: a fourth grade game in this series, it's an all
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  Speaker 3: time series. Is it beyond him? No, it's not. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: just don't think that's gonna happen. I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: HomeGrid and Hartenstein have enough in them to hold Wimby
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  Speaker 3: to something mortal. And I think that Shake Gildas Alexander
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  Speaker 3: will be that guy who feels the pressure. I think
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  Speaker 3: his superpower is his calm and the fact that, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the slump. These guys are kick at my butt,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: but he doesn't. He doesn't have palms up to the
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: referees a La Luca and Caitlin Clark. I love that
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  Speaker 3: about Shake Gildas Alexander, and I think he tomorrow will
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  Speaker 3: do what he needs to. Look Okay, see needs to
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: win another one if they're gonna win another one now,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Because Michael, you alluded to the West I mean, you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Minnesota's got some more in them. I think Denver will
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  Speaker 3: retool around Jokic. You could still it's still one of
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  Speaker 3: the three best players in the world. And you got
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: san Antonio on your heels. You know, if you're okayc
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you don't play this like we're gonna be too cool
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  Speaker 3: for school. You don't give one away. You win this
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: when you can.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Michael will get you out of here in just a second.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I mean this when I say it. Kelly Amanti Hiller,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: who was on the show with us a couple of
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: days ago, nine national championships, you were at the game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: She deserves to be in the conversation of the greatest
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: coaches of all time in any sport, Michael, no doubt.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: No doubt. I mean, look, here's okay, here's the testimony
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to me. Bill Belichick would slide to her practices in Chicago.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yep, Yes, Yes, gave a pregame speech the team before
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a game once, Yes to.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: North China from Chapel Hill. I mean Bill Belichick of
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the New England Patriots would fly to see Kelly's practices,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and she grew up in New England of his Yes,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: he knew her, but Bill didn't go there because he
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: because she was a kid who rooted in war to Jersey.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: He knows the trillion kids like that. He went there
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: because he thought she was and thinks she's a great coach.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: To me that that was one day and somebody said, oh,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: did you see coach Belichick? And I'm thinking, you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: maybe he came to meet with a former coach of
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: his was on our staff or something. No, he was
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: at lacrosse practice. She's one of the great coaches period.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: My goddaughter played for Kelly. My goddaughter Britain largely in common.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: She played for her on three teams, two championship teams.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And you know, I got a chance to go and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: be around a little bit, probably more than anybody would
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: like me to be around. But I have the utmost
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: respect for Kelly. She's one of them. No, she's She's
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: the north Star to me of Northwestern athletics. And that
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: includes Otto Graham, it includes guys like Fred the Hammer Williamson.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: You know, we you know, people don't think, you know
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the Northwestern of and sports, and we do have some
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: people and we have some great athletes who are Alzheimer's Kelly,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Kelly is at the top of that list. To me.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yep, it was a great weekend. It's a magical place,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: especially on the right day, right weather day. That place
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: looks magical on television. I'm sure it was a great
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: recruiting day for the entire school. I'll leave you on
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this note and go look you will laugh at this.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Michael spent some quality time with Rachel right after the game.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Rachel walked away and said, man, that guy is so cool.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: The only sentence I heard come out of Wilbehud's mouth
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: too Rachel, was Hey, your dad's got enough money.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: That is true, Michael, make dad do whatever you want to.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: We need him to do. You till Rachel another round
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: of congratulations from me. It was it was that she's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: such an impressive, such an impressive young woman. And what
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I know she's got decisions about what she
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: wants to do next. Good luck with all that stuff
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of the families to guys, but you know she's on that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You know, we're a small community in Northwestern You know
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: this now because you're part of it. We're a small community,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: a proud, you know, purple community, and when people come
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: into it, they stay forever. We welcome them forever. And
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: so I'm I'm thrilled, and she's part of it, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: you tell her to pick up the polish she needs
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: anything on this set?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm throwing it brought us together, Michael,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you for spending time with her. I apologize for
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: anything I did to piss you off along the way.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: This ridiculous strength of mind through sports media. But I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: love you and I respect you. Michael.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: People off along the way all the time as well
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Golic did. Golic did less of that than the three
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: of us, by far, far less of that. And you
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: know so, I mean, God, you may not be as
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: sweet as his brother, but he's still never pissed anybody off.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: To my knowledge, he was always It's always great being
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: all the bike. I really enjoy it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, he hosted America's largest sports radio show for a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: couple of decades and managed not to piss anyone off.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yes, Michael, thank you so much for doing
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks man, I hope to do it again down the road.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, talk to you soon.