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The Moors Murders and Some Spooky Spaghetti · When Killers Get Caught with Brittany Ransom

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  Hey, everybody. And serial killer country.
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  My name is Brittany Ransom. Yeah, my name's Brian Joiner.
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  And this is when Killers get caught a podcasts devoted.
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  To deep dives into the lives. And psyches of the killers.
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  We love to learn about each week.
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  We'll discuss something new or interesting in the serial killer
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  world. Then we'll discuss what?
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  Well known or lesser known killer, and go deep into their
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  childhood lives methodology. And most importantly how they
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  got caught. And then, because most real
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  killer fans, love a little bit of a spook.
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  Brian will lead us down the road of the Paranormal or into
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  something. He found to be particularly
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  creepy this week. We are yet again.
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  Discussing the Cecil hotel but this time some of their
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  absolutely ridiculous plans for reopening this year.
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  I will be discussing the Moors murders after four months of
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  people from the UK requesting. I cover Ian and Ian, Brady, and
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  Myra hindley. And then Brian, like, normal.
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  We'll wait, because this is what he does.
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  Yes, I'm going to creep on by was my topic.
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  But this is whole thing. The thing we want to talk about
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  first today is because I came across an article from The Daily
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  Mail and I know they're like not the most reputable Source, but
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  I'm dealing meals pretty good. I like, I am I confusing them
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  with the other one from the UK that nobody likes?
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  Hmm, I'm not sure per day one. That's like a thing called the
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  Sun. Or is it the star one of them?
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  They don't like, but Daily Mail might be okay but either way.
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  So after the Cecil Hotel, Terry came out about a week and a half
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  ago, almost two weeks ago. Yeah.
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  Um, there's been this big discussion across the country
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  and across serial killer communities about when the Cecil
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  was reopening, right? And so, apparently, it wasn't
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  supposed to be reopened will covid killed everything.
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  Covid-19 ruining everybody's lives.
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  I mean they ruined everyone everything.
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  So yeah ruined everyone's lives bonus facts, just found out
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  today. That America just hit 500,000
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  confirmed deaths. So we're number one hey we don't
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  have any new cases so that's okay.
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  Well that's I guess a bonus but regardless so after the success
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  apparently of the documentary they're trying to push the
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  relaunch for 2021. And so here are some of the
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  things that what one if you're not a big well-known person or
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  you don't know a whole lot about the Cecil.
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  It's this 700 bed hotel in the middle of downtown Los Angeles.
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  I think now they're saying it'll be about 600.
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  But yes, a 600 pixels because two of the floors are being
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  converted into low-income housing.
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  Right? An apartment right?
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  It was bought by a luxury hotel. Yay, Simon Baron development in
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  2014 for 30 million, They spent 100 million on it and then they
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  only sold it for like 30 million.
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  Yeah. So it was a loss, either way in
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  2016, a submitted plans, to LA City County to refurbish it, and
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  to the, you know, apartments and the hotel rooms, so they closed
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  down in 2017, to begin remodeling.
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  Expecting it would take a couple years, of course, has been a
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  delay and Renovations, but they're going to try and search
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  for word because apparently, thanks the documentary.
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  There's interest. Of course, there's interest.
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  The same time. Goodness gracious.
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  I love what it says in this article there have been at least
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  16 deaths at the Cecil since it opened.
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  When the lady in the documentary definitely said there were 80 in
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  just the time that she works there and that was she said like
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  a decade. Yeah, but regardless, I I
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  personally, as soon as I saw this, I realized we had to talk
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  about it, which is that, apparently, their intention is
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  to install 299 in Room mini bars because that's what we need to
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  add to this hotel where people kill themselves and others.
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  Yeah, but also a rooftop bar which is just chef's kiss.
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  The tackiest thing I can think to do because that is where
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  Elisa Lam died on in the water tank on the roof.
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  Like I said, just imagine the making a drink, they're called
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  Elisa Lam is going to be, don't be a fishbowl.
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  I think a fishbowl drink. Oh yeah, five dollar fish bowl.
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  Yeah, it's going to have like little gummies in there.
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  Uploading Sour Patch Kids? Yeah, to represent that is a
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  very La drink, though. That's a very like, young people
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  drink and the stay on man is like build to be like a trendy
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  and touristy like 21 year old kind of plays and there we go.
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  And then we might just have another murder there.
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  Well that's my thought process, right?
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  You like it wasn't exactly like that.
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  The most like there were like what are you gonna do?
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  If you're going to put a bar, like a bar up there you need to
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  have like I don't know, like 8-foot glass walls or something.
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  Yeah. Because someone's going to jump
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  off that roof to be like while intoxicated, they toxicated
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  there has to be some way that's being closed somehow.
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  So I didn't notice there's a teenage mother who lived there,
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  she Drew her newborn out the window as after she gave birth
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  to it. That could be why the windows
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  are sealed. Now they talk, they briefly
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  mentioned that After People kept jumping from the windows, they
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  close, they made it so you couldn't open the windows
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  anymore. Yes, it was in 1944.
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  So yeah, I'm going to say yes. Well, that would be a time
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  period. Where you having a baby was
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  horrible? Head?
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  Yeah. Poor check.
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  What happened to her? Yeah.
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  So it's half of the building is called still called the Cecil,
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  the other half is the stay on me.
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  Yes. So says But yeah.
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  So apparently they want to restore some of the like
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  historical areas of the hotel in the center.
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  Going to, they're going to have a ground floor restaurant in
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  there tube in the lobby bar and I can't believe that you don't
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  already have a ground for restaurant.
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  The whole ground floor. Looks like it a time capsule.
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  Yeah. Straight out of the 1920s like
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  still marble and like chandeliers Honey's there.
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  Yeah. You eat there but you don't want
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  to stay there. No, no.
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  That's like you gotta eat the sketchy places like the sketch,
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  you restaurants. Yeah.
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  But see this is it going to be Sketchy restaurant.
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  This is not going to be the Chinese restaurant where you get
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  your food from behind the bulletproof glass.
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  Okay, but which always tastes amazing.
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  By the way, where is located true?
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  It is in a sketchy part of l.a. It's like it's just because them
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  stupidly trying to like put all of the homeless people in one
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  area like they were all cattle. Yeah, it's terrible.
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  Yeah, terrible apparently the developers last year filed, a
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  notice to be Up from the environment, the California
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  Environmental Quality Act. And I'm like, well that just
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  bodes well. But either way so I just was
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  like wow, we're really going ahead with this whole rooftop
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  bar thing, right? Yeah like that just sounds so
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  tacky. I can't I can't read through it.
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  Can't wait to read about what happens next.
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  I just and I you know it's they have to try and take advantage
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  of the fact that the documentary has been successful.
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  But I'm worried it was successful because it humanized,
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  what was essentially an internet ghost story?
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  They really We made Elisa Lam into a real person because
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  definitely, for me, but definitely for me, she was kind
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  of like a weird internet conspiracy theory Elisa Lam had
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  become Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman, to me, like this story
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  that we were just talking about old.
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  You remember, that? Girl who died in that hotel and
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  they couldn't find her and maybe a ghost killed her.
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  And, like, I forget when I heard about it was like a couple weeks
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  before you even told me about the documentary because I had
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  not Not heard about this at all. Oh, really.
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  I remember when it happened? Nope, I don't remember.
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  I didn't remember. Oh, I never, I don't think I
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  was. No, I did not.
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  It was 2013. Beginning of 2013.
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  What was going on in my life? Just Chillin.
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  I was just having a good time, honestly.
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  Depression. Oh, you're gonna how very, how
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  very Dempsey of you, that was a good job.
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  The answer. Ha, ha ha ha.
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  You are, you are, I just think it's fun.
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  Like, I personally I find that aspect of the internet
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  hilarious. How, you know, densey can make
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  anything into a very dark joke. I love it.
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  I'm here for that kind of entertainment Amiga do.
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  Like the problem is you can't tell you can't make those jokes
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  in public because people I think something's wrong with you.
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  I do it anyway. Like, one of my co-workers
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  younger than me, I think she would codify is Gen Z.
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  Like we were just walking down the hallway and she tripped over
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  something and she was like, oh my God, I almost died and I just
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  cracked up but I'm like, you can't say that around older
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  people? They think something's wrong
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  with you? No.
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  Are you say you're tired about around a little person?
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  Is it's a whole deal. Like you don't even know which
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  hired is, you know what though I say that to my students like
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  they'll be like we're in the hallway.
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  Going to the bathroom, he likes it on the floor and I'm like, we
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  you were They just in your chair.
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  Yeah, I mean this has been 30 seconds.
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  How are you tired? That's the same stuff to my kids
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  too. So I don't have any room to
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  talk. Like we're all daddy were all
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  like, oh I need a break. I'm like a break from what from
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  relaxing, break from hanging out all day at home and terrorizing
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  your father, go take your break and I'll try if they did eat a
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  break from like terrorizing you. Yes, I like oh, that was so much
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  work, you know. Break a little 30 minute break
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  Anyway, I thought I said that my subject this week were the Moors
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  murders and I cannot tell you how many people on Tick, Tock
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  have sent me countless messages and comments on so many videos.
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  You don't talk enough about International serial killers,
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  like what, you know what? I'm going to pick pretty much
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  Ones that I could find you. Go, there you go.
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  That these are so obviously, if you're a fan, you know about
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  Over a series of child investigate a child
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  disappearances between July, 1963, and October of 1965 in and
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  around the area. That's now known as greater.
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  Manchester England Victor's, want all children?
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  Ages, 10 to 17. Oh, yeah.
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  Only four of their bodies were recovered and Like many cases,
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  very similar to Karla Karla Homolka.
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  And Paul Bernardo, they were sexually assaulted the majority
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  of them. One am not going to be heading
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  to into those details this evening.
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  It was very difficult for me to go into a lot of the details
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  with the Ken and Barbie killer. So I'm gonna kind of keep it at
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  a, not graphic level. That's right.
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  There you go, we're all ages show.
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  So we try to, but they call them the Moors murders because all of
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  the victims were buried. On the saddleworth Moor except
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  for the last one, but that will be funny when I get to that one.
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  Okay, um, question dumb question.
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  Yes, what to say more? It's an area.
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  It just looks like a big Lush field and there's also Woods.
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  It just looks like a really nice area.
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  It's like grasslands. Basically this is better water.
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  There's no definition of it. It's essentially consider be
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  like an area of open uncultivated land.
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  Just nature. But there's Woods there, there's
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  Rocky areas, especially this one, the saddleworth Moor.
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  Like I looked at some of the pictures of it.
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  It's a huge like, wonderful National are like, beautiful
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  place to go and enjoy things. Also apparently a good place to
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  hide bodies are like, huh. This is woods and like Open
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  Fields. Basically.
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  Yeah. A lot of that.
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  They also have like that peat moss.
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  That good? That they're like a nice thick.
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  I like that movie. Yeah.
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  Almost makes me want to try to eat it.
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  It looks so good. But yeah.
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  It's got lots of beautiful, like, Rocky areas.
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  So many beautiful things but it's huge.
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  We said, we can try and explain it is, how big are the Moors?
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  To explain like because it one point, it says it is.
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  Well, this is 1312 feet above sea level, but I'd like to know
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  square footage. I never understand sea level.
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  So that's okay. Listen, we are not scientists
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  here. But yeah, so its massive it's
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  beautiful people like to go there.
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  Hang out, I saw lots of pictures of people in the snow having a
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  good time but regardless, the more was, I was like a grassland
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  type Place bouquet, say yes. The couple's committed.
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  This crime were Ian, Brady, and Myra hindley and they had some
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  interesting childhood. So we're gonna break the two of
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  them down but and then talk about, once they meet each other
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  and then how that leads into To their eventual committing of
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  crimes. So mr.
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  With Ian Brady, he was born in Glasgow which we believe is in
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  not England. That is Scotland UK.
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  Yes, but he was born in Scotland and his name of the time was Ian
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  Duncan Stewart. That was January 2nd 1938 to
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  Maggie. Stuart who was an unmarried?
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  Great dress. She was 28 years old, he never
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  knew his father, but his mother told him that if he was a
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  reporter for a Glasgow newspaper who had died several months,
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  Before he was born. There you go.
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  That's a good story. We don't know if it's true, but
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  it's nice. Yeah, Maggie had no support and
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  so she gave up her son to another local couple who had
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  four children and they were Mary and John Sloan.
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  So then in becomes Ian flown his mom visits him while he lives at
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  the Sloan family. So it's not like she wasn't
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  allowed to be around him, right? Just that she didn't have any
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  money but he was a pretty troubled child.
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  He started torturing animals at a very young age.
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  We're talking like, pre eight years old.
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  He go sign. Number one, breaking animals,
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  legs setting fire to a dog decapitating a cat.
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  Serious stuff. Lovely got it.
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  So when he was nine, he visited Loch Lomond lake with his family
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  and he discovered that he was really good at outdoorsy
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  activities. So a couple months later, his
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  family moved to an overspill estate and Pollock, not had to
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  Google what this was and overspill.
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  A state is a housing area. That's created to deal with
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  overpopulation. And this happened, I guess a lot
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  during this time, period, I guess, post-war booms.
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  And and childcare, and things of that nature.
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  But when his family moves to Pollock, he ends up getting
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  accepted into this place called The charlatans Academy, which is
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  a school for exceptional students while he excels
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  academically. He is a very violent child and
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  as he gets older, he moves from hurting animals to hurting other
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  children there who are smaller than he was as a teenager while
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  still in sha Allah and he gets arrested twice for breaking into
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  houses. Then he quit school at 15 and
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  begins working as T boy, at Harlan Wolf, ship our Shipyard
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  in Govan. T boys are like interns who are
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  trying to learn the trade but your most important job is to
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  make sure that everyone who works there.
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  Also has t. Oh nice.
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  So that's like how we have interns here getting coffee but
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  they called them T boys. Which is kind of like a coffee.
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  Boy coffee boy. Real bad boy.
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  Go get me a coffee. Go to Starbucks.
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  Give you my double. Frappuccino, whatever macchiato
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  oh gosh, Listen I don't buy from here so I don't know what to do.
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  Yeah, nine months later he quits that job begins working as a
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  butcher at a butcher's messenger.
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  Boy. He has his girlfriend there.
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  Her name is Evelyn Grant but their relationship ended when he
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  threatened her with a knife. After she went to a dance with
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  another guy. Hey, I'm assuming it was already
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  on the way out when she goes to a dance with another guy, right?
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  But it was definitely over when he threatened to stab her.
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  I mean, I mean I mean, I'm gonna say that's my limit to.
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  That could be like a sign for some women but then we could be
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  like another sign that size. He loves me so much.
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  He wants to stab me for looking at another man that's the sign
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  for people who are obsessed with serial killers people with
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  irised affiliate that we talked about what s episode so many you
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  talk about it like twice. Anyway, he gets arrested again
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  but this time there are nine charges Just him and shortly
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  before his 17th birthday, he gets put on probation on the
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  condition that he moves back in. With his mother who is now
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  remarried to an Irish fruit fruit Merchant and they had
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  moved to Manchester England. He agrees because who wants to
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  go to prison, right? And he takes on his stepfathers
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  last name, Brady and stepdad Pat.
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  Brady gets him a job as a fruit Porter at Smithfield Market.
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  Oh no, he's a fruit boy. Yeah.
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  Got it within a year of moving in, with his mom.
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  He gets caught. Well, the sack foot of lead
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  seals which look like little beads.
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  And he was trying to smuggle them out of the market.
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  I don't know why he needed them. I'm guessing they might have
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  been like the thing to seal like bags or like packages or like
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  maybe containers. I'm like why were you of all the
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  things to steal from the market? Why are you feeling that?
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  I looked at pictures of it was very hard to understand what a
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  LED Silas but because he was still under 18 at the time he
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  gets sentenced to two years in a youth facility and they said
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  specifically for training which If I find is an interesting word
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  to say hm, he usually gets sent to the Hatfield youth facility
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  but gets moved to a tougher unit called Hull because he got
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  caught brewing, his own alcohol and getting drunk.
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  Oh very nice. Once in Hall, he does manage to
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  stay out of trouble and he is released November 14, 1957.
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  He returns the Manchester. He takes a labor job that he
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  can't stand and gets fired from a job at a brewery deciding that
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  he wants to give himself, kind of an upper hand on finding
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  work. He gets his set of instruction
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  manuals on bookkeeping from a Lobel, local library.
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  And his parents are very surprised to see him like,
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  buckle down and study. After just, three months of
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  Studying really hard. He applies for a job, like a
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  clerical job. At Mill, words merchandising
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  this wholesale chemical company based in the city of Gordon and
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  he gets the job, which just tells you that he was a
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  relatively smart human being. Yeah, he's had to apply himself
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  his co-workers say that he's a quiet always on time.
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  Very short-tempered and his free time.
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  He reads books such as teacher, soft, German and mine Kampf as
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  As well as works on Nazi atrocities and yeah something
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  that he would find in common with Myra hindley.
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  I don't like the way this is going around.
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  No, no, we getting right into it now.
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  Myra hindley was born, July 23rd, 1942 to Nelly and Bob
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  Henley in the working-class city of Gordon located in Manchester.
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  She lived in a small home that was in such poor quality that
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  she and her parents only slept. Then one bedroom like they had
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  their bedroom and she had like a small twin bed next to theirs on
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  the floor. Things only got worse for them
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  financially. When her younger sister Maureen
• 22:12
  was born in 1946, so, because of family was so poor and kept
• 22:17
  having children. They sat Myra to live with her
• 22:19
  grandmother, in a nearby town to cut down costs, okay?
• 22:23
  Okay, Myra had a really strange relationship with her father.
• 22:27
  He was a military man. Who'd fought In North Africa,
• 22:30
  Cyprus in Italy, in World War Two and he expected his daughter
• 22:35
  to be, as tough as he was. He insisted, she learn how to
• 22:38
  fight. Assisted, she stuck up for
• 22:39
  herself at every opportunity. There's a story that she told
• 22:44
  was when she was 8 years old, a little boy, scratched her on the
• 22:47
  face, and it was hard enough to draw blood.
• 22:49
  She ran home, and she's crying. And her father tells her, you
• 22:52
  have to go back out there and beat him or I'm gonna he said
• 22:57
  I'm gonna get you with the leather.
• 22:59
  That's so He's very familiar. Why do you see that you made
• 23:04
  from your own life? Oh no.
• 23:07
  It's like, you know, like your come like like you getting
• 23:12
  bullied at school, right? And like, you tell your parents
• 23:15
  about, I'm like, okay listen, you better, whoop, their ass or
• 23:18
  I'm gonna whoop your ass, but you know what?
• 23:20
  They tell you not to do that now.
• 23:22
  Yeah, I know it's a it's a, it was a thing but either way.
• 23:27
  So Myra does as she's told and she It's the boy down with a
• 23:31
  series of punches. She wrote about this experience
• 23:35
  as one of her first victories of Life, which I think is also a
• 23:39
  very weird thing to say that as like, you know, a young girl,
• 23:45
  her first victory was beating up a little boy, good for you.
• 23:50
  Yeah. Who's a professor of forensic?
• 23:53
  Psychology Psychiatry from Cardiff University.
• 23:56
  His name was Malcolm McCullough and he wrote that the
• 23:59
  relationship. Between Myra and her, dad may
• 24:01
  have brutalized her where she began to expect violence at
• 24:05
  home, and she was expected. Like she was rewarded for
• 24:08
  violence outside of the home. He essentially said that that
• 24:12
  distorted her understanding of, right and wrong.
• 24:14
  It's such a nun age that may have contributed to her becoming
• 24:18
  a Serial murderer. Another situation that affect
• 24:21
  admirer was in 1957. When she was 13, one of her like
• 24:26
  very close friend, invited her to go swimming.
• 24:29
  At this like old Reservoir and it wasn't like, June or July in
• 24:33
  the summer, he was her best friend.
• 24:36
  His name was Michael Higgins and she declined because she wanted
• 24:39
  to go out with another boy named Pat and that day, her best
• 24:43
  friend, drowned and Myra blamed herself for his death, because
• 24:47
  she was a really strong swimmer. And she figured that if she had
• 24:51
  been there, she would have been able to save him.
• 24:53
  Wow. Wow.
• 24:56
  Shortly after that, she started high school at Writer brow
• 25:00
  secondary school and after her friend's funeral, she began
• 25:05
  seeking out the Catholic church and taking lessons from the
• 25:08
  church. Her father was very
• 25:10
  anti-catholic. He actually only allowed her
• 25:13
  mother to baptize her as a Catholic if he didn't send her
• 25:17
  to Catholic school. What?
• 25:20
  Yeah. So pretty much, he agreed to
• 25:22
  allow Myra to be baptized. If the mom agreed that they
• 25:25
  wouldn't send her to Catholic school because he didn't like
• 25:29
  That he said they only taught the catechism but she's
• 25:32
  basically, I don't understand religion like that, but aren't
• 25:35
  you like, basically Catholic at that point when you're baptized
• 25:39
  as well? I went to Catholic school and so
• 25:42
  my wine teacher used to talk about cafeteria Catholics, which
• 25:45
  he said that they just look at the Bible and they go like I
• 25:47
  want that, I don't like that. Oops, I want that like when
• 25:50
  you're at a cafeteria, I'm just pick and choose.
• 25:53
  So if seems like her, dad was more calm.
• 25:55
  Cool. With that concept.
• 25:56
  Like listen, we can all be baptized but I don't really want
• 25:58
  to go to church. This will only go on New Year's
• 26:01
  Eve and Christmas. You know, people like guys,
• 26:05
  yeah, of course, that seems like the kind of Catholic that her
• 26:08
  father was and so her mom agreed.
• 26:11
  She was, like, fine, listen. I at least want her baptized
• 26:13
  just in case, you know, trying to send her to Heaven.
• 26:15
  If something bad happens. Right.
• 26:17
  Of course, but regardless, as she's now starting secondary
• 26:21
  school, they can't really control what she wants to do.
• 26:24
  And she throws herself into religion after the death of her
• 26:27
  friend. She goes, she gets confirmation.
• 26:31
  It receives her first communion, in 1958, she becomes a godparent
• 26:35
  to her friends. Nephew Anthony.
• 26:39
  She also starts bleaching her hair.
• 26:41
  Okay. And I just wonder if that's
• 26:43
  maybe like with most women, we change our hair whenever we're
• 26:46
  going through some stuff. I mean it's everybody was.
• 26:48
  Yeah. Everybody just has a moment
• 26:50
  where you just do that. Yes.
• 26:53
  So her first job, she's a junior clerk at a local electrical
• 26:56
  engineering firm. She runs errands makes tea.
• 26:59
  Types. She's very well-liked at the
• 27:01
  firm enough so that when she actually lost her first weeks
• 27:04
  wage packet, this is before we had direct deposit, so she
• 27:07
  literally lost her first weeks pay.
• 27:10
  The other girls who work there with her took up a collection to
• 27:13
  like, give her money. Oh, so that's it.
• 27:15
  Like she was considered to be like a very good person.
• 27:17
  She's sweet. She had a short relationship
• 27:21
  with a man named Ronnie Sinclair, Christmas, 1958, and
• 27:26
  they got engaged when she was 17.
• 27:28
  But she Called it off because she said he was immature and
• 27:31
  unable to provide for a wife, huh?
• 27:33
  But I mean, I would under, I also think 217 roles are
• 27:36
  immature and unprepared to be married but you're 70 your
• 27:40
  children, obviously, nobody's repair for this, but some people
• 27:44
  have done this before per her dad's wishes.
• 27:47
  She continued to take self-defense classes and
• 27:49
  actually took Judo lessons once a week, but people weren't
• 27:53
  willing to train with her because they said she wouldn't
• 27:55
  release her grip when she was supposed to know.
• 27:58
  She was too. To too excited too aggressive.
• 28:01
  She briefly worked for another engineering company but gets
• 28:03
  fired over attendance. And then in 1961 at 18 years
• 28:07
  old, she joins Mill words as a typist and there she needs and
• 28:12
  becomes infatuated with Ian. Brady gonna laugh at you.
• 28:16
  Ation begins so she does feed other men.
• 28:20
  But in her diary she only wrote about Brady.
• 28:23
  She was fascinated by this quiet man and it was months before she
• 28:26
  even spoke to him. First, finally, in July.
• 28:32
  Then in her diary, she starts writing more and more like
• 28:34
  disillusion fantasies about this relationship.
• 28:37
  She wants with him. Finally, December 22nd 1961.
• 28:41
  He asks her out on a date to a movie about the Nuremberg
• 28:44
  trials, right? What a first date like dismal,
• 28:50
  lovely. Lovely apparently, though, their
• 28:53
  dates were a little bit odd, they go and watch an x-rated
• 28:56
  movie. Go back to Myra's house drink
• 28:59
  German wine and started giving her leg.
• 29:02
  Reading materials and they would spend all their lunch breaks at
• 29:05
  work reading about Nazi torture. Come on let's go she continues
• 29:09
  to bleach your hair but she also starts wearing like bright red
• 29:13
  lipstick. Interestingly enough, at one
• 29:15
  point, she writes a letter to a childhood friend and said that
• 29:18
  she thought she had been drugged by Ian like, in a date rape
• 29:22
  situation, probably work. But she also said that she was
• 29:25
  obsessed with him and him. Assaulting her made her want him
• 29:29
  more. Oh my God.
• 29:31
  It's like freaking Freaking Misa Misa and Light Yagami all over
• 29:35
  again. So after that she asked her
• 29:38
  friend to destroy that letter and I pulled this from.
• 29:42
  So one of the first time she attempted to get parole after
• 29:47
  all of this in 1970. Sure like a 30,000 word letter
• 29:52
  to the parole board but there's one distinctive quote here that
• 29:57
  I think explains the mental state.
• 29:59
  She was in a 1969. So it says, within months he had
• 30:03
  me convinced, there was no God at all.
• 30:05
  He could have told me the Earth was flat.
• 30:07
  The moon was made of green cheese and the sun rose in the
• 30:09
  west. I would have believed him such
• 30:11
  was his power of persuasion. I think it's weird for her to
• 30:16
  use that reference to say. This is why I helped murder five
• 30:19
  children. Exactly.
• 30:20
  But I think it is important to state that she's like 19 years
• 30:24
  old and she is completely obsessed with a slightly older,
• 30:26
  man. Very impressionable.
• 30:28
  Mmm, she changes her entire wardrobe to All to Ian, she
• 30:32
  starts wearing sexy things like knee-high Boots, short skirts,
• 30:35
  leather jackets. They kind of turn inward and
• 30:38
  stop being sociable at work at all.
• 30:41
  They spend all their free time at the local library, taking
• 30:44
  out. Books on philosophy, crime,
• 30:46
  torture, they read things by Marquis, De Sade and Dostoevsky
• 30:50
  Crime and Punishment. Funny enough, I can say, his
• 30:54
  last name can't see his first name, I'm like, field, or I'd
• 31:00
  buy know the last name. Dostoevsky.
• 31:02
  So, there you go. We got jerk.
• 31:05
  We got Russian last names down, no complaining about that.
• 31:09
  So during this time period, like 19, Was it 19 like 69 or I see
• 31:18
  59. Oh, gosh.
• 31:19
  And I got lost 1969. You would like rent a van?
• 31:24
  And the two of them would like driving around and talk about
• 31:28
  Bank, like robbing banks, they started visiting local rifle,
• 31:31
  ranges with my wrist, friend, George Kotero.
• 31:35
  Kythera was confused as to why she wanted a gun but he helped
• 31:38
  her buy one from a merchant and Manchester then Myra tried to
• 31:42
  join a pistol Club, but she wasn't a good shot.
• 31:44
  Shot and she was kind of angry. So her friend told her, it
• 31:47
  wasn't the hobby for her. Yeah.
• 31:49
  No angry person with a gun. No, thank you.
• 31:52
  She did however, by a Webley 45, and then a Smith's with a Smith
• 31:58
  & Wesson 38. Yeah, from another member of
• 32:02
  that Pistol Club. So she did have like three guns
• 32:06
  even though she wasn't trained properly in them.
• 32:09
  Even though they made all these plans, they never had the bank.
• 32:12
  Strangely enough. It was just something they were
• 32:13
  like obsessed. Thinking about instead they got
• 32:16
  into photography and owned a box brownie camera, which is this
• 32:20
  essentially one of the earlier portable camera which he used to
• 32:24
  take photographs of Myra and her dog puppet but he upgraded to a
• 32:28
  more sophisticated camera and also purchase lights and
• 32:31
  darkroom equipment, and they started taking photographs of
• 32:34
  each other that for the time would have been considered
• 32:37
  explicit naughty pictures. So see I was right.
• 32:44
  I should have said 1959 earlier sorry because sometimes around
• 32:48
  1963 and begins discussing about committing the perfect murder
• 32:55
  and he starts talking a lot about a book of by Meyer Levin
• 32:59
  is called, Meyer lemons, compulsion.
• 33:02
  And this crime is set in the 1920s and it's a fictionalized
• 33:05
  account of a real story of Leopold and Loeb to college
• 33:09
  students that kidnap and kill a 12.
• 33:10
  Year old boy to prove that they can get away.
• 33:13
  Day with the perfect murder. Both students are 0 from wealthy
• 33:16
  families and escape the death penalty because of their ages.
• 33:19
  So okay, hold on, I'm sorry. So they go from talking about
• 33:24
  Nazi stuff to bank-robbing stuff.
• 33:28
  Then this they switch to photography.
• 33:30
  Now, they're talking about murdering committing, the
• 33:32
  perfect murder. Awesome.
• 33:34
  Well I think all of the the stuff about torture and crime
• 33:37
  and all that I think that this all part of the the Deep the the
• 33:42
  fantasy. A lot of serial killers have
• 33:44
  these deep like seriously like I don't want to say like enriching
• 33:49
  but very real fantasies to them and they fixate on them for
• 33:55
  years before they ever actually do anything.
• 33:57
  Okay? So I think this is kind of that
• 33:59
  time period. And and Ian Brady thinks that he
• 34:03
  has found a kindred soul who helped him who yeah, and I but
• 34:07
  well, he's really found is someone who is Young and naive
• 34:11
  enough to just go along with Whatever he's doing at this
• 34:13
  point, the puppet. It's funny that her dog is named
• 34:16
  puppet because she's the puppet here for sure.
• 34:20
  But June of 1963 Ian moves in with Myra at her grandmother's
• 34:25
  house on Bannock Street. And on July 12th, 1963, the to
• 34:30
  murder their first victim. 16 roll Pauline Reade my renew
• 34:34
  Pauline because Polly went to school with her little sister.
• 34:38
  They convinced spoiling to help them search the saddleworth,
• 34:41
  Moor fornix. Expensive.
• 34:43
  Lost glove. Pauline and Myra went there in a
• 34:47
  rented van and Ian arrived later on his motorcycle.
• 34:52
  Now, there's a lot of discussion about this because this crime,
• 34:56
  they didn't even admit to until the 80s.
• 34:58
  No. Is this, the one they were even
• 34:59
  convicted for? So, Myra says that she just
• 35:04
  waited in the van. Well, Ian and Pauline went into
• 35:07
  the more and Aaron returned, 30 minutes later alone.
• 35:11
  What are you doing here? He takes Myra to the spot where
• 35:14
  Pauline In is laying dying. Apparently this attack was so
• 35:19
  brutal that she had nearly been decapitated.
• 35:21
  Oh my God. And then Myra asks, Ian well did
• 35:25
  you rape her and he responds, of course, I did.
• 35:27
  Of course I did. What do you think?
• 35:30
  I'm an amateur now? And just feeling of like I said
• 35:32
  they didn't admit to doing this crime until the 80s when Ian
• 35:35
  told this story. He says that Myra, was there
• 35:38
  during the act and she participated, I'd probably
• 35:40
  believe what he said so we'll never know for sure.
• 35:45
  The police looked briefly into Pauline's ex-boyfriend boy named
• 35:49
  David Smith who had three prior criminal convictions, but no one
• 35:53
  had seen her go missing and there was nobody the 15 year
• 35:57
  old. David is questioned and cleared
• 36:00
  of all involvement. Their next victim is John
• 36:03
  Kilbride and that's November 1963 so it's only a couple
• 36:07
  months later. First ones, June second ones
• 36:09
  November. Oh damn.
• 36:10
  Okay, John was heading home late and they offered him a ride home
• 36:14
  and I'll Bottle of Sherry to get into the car that they had
• 36:17
  rented. So, coincidentally here at this
• 36:20
  point, every time they are committing murder, they are also
• 36:22
  renting cars. Oh, that's the and see that
• 36:26
  definitely leads to forensic countermeasure, but this isn't
• 36:29
  like that I guess the time period where you could track no
• 36:35
  not really cars and all this stuff.
• 36:37
  This isn't like now where they take down all this information,
• 36:40
  you have to put down some money and make sure the cars back.
• 36:43
  Yeah. Gas in it, and good.
• 36:46
  Wow. Okay, so they tell this little
• 36:49
  boy, John, that they need to stop by the more to look for a
• 36:52
  missing glove and then they just stopped by their house for the
• 36:56
  bottle of Sherry before they drop them off at home.
• 36:58
  I'm gonna guess you want to change up your story that much
• 37:00
  because this new person especially when it's children.
• 37:04
  I know it's like 12 but they, he was also sexually assaulted and
• 37:09
  strangled as well as stabbed. Yeah, Johnson's appearance.
• 37:14
  This is a huge search at this point now within a five month
• 37:18
  period, there are two young people missing, they interview
• 37:22
  over 700 people. Taking statements, there's
• 37:25
  missing posters all over town. Hundreds of them at the Eighth
• 37:28
  Day, Mark that he's missing 2,000.
• 37:30
  Volunteers searched every empty building and area around town
• 37:35
  that they think like a child could have gotten into hmm and
• 37:39
  God in stock or lost like they're not thinking murdered at
• 37:42
  this, right? They just think that he got into
• 37:43
  some trouble. Oh, and he's like locked in a
• 37:46
  basement randomly, or, you know, he fell down a shaft or fell
• 37:49
  into a well Dancing to check the Moors.
• 37:53
  Hmm. Nope, my rented a vehicle after
• 37:57
  the search. And then again, on December 21st
• 38:00
  to go back to the burial site and make sure they had not known
• 38:05
  had gone to that. Are you kidding me?
• 38:07
  Absolutely it twice. So at this point, it's early
• 38:12
  1964, she decides to buy a second-hand car and then she
• 38:15
  trades that in for a minivan, okay?
• 38:18
  Which she's going to use very soon.
• 38:21
  June 16 1964, Keith Bennett disappears, my receipts him
• 38:25
  walking down the street, and she asks him to help her load boxes
• 38:29
  into her Minivan. And then says, she'll drive him
• 38:32
  home, they use the missing glove story again.
• 38:37
  It's actually assault him and strangle him.
• 38:39
  His stepfather is the immediate suspect.
• 38:42
  His name is Jimmie Johnson. And the two years following this
• 38:45
  disappearance. He's brought in four times for
• 38:47
  questioning. You're smiling because I told
• 38:49
  you that Jimmie. Johnson was my favorite, NASCAR
• 38:51
  driver for a time. Yeah.
• 38:53
  But when I hear you can get you thinking a hoagie Jimmy, John's
• 39:00
  thinking about a NASCAR racer, but regardless They bring him in
• 39:04
  for years over like four times over the next two years, the
• 39:07
  dad, the stepped out and over and over and over again.
• 39:11
  They searched the house including under the floorboards.
• 39:13
  And then when I discovered that, the houses are connected.
• 39:16
  They extend the search to the entire Street.
• 39:19
  Oh, wow. Okay, but they never find Keith
• 39:22
  and incidentally. Keith is the only one of these
• 39:25
  disappearances who they have never found as in its 2021 and
• 39:30
  they still have not found him to hook.
• 39:33
  I'll give you more Details comes out at the end.
• 39:34
  But yeah, that's the one of the saddest parts of this story is
• 39:38
  that they never recovered this one child.
• 39:40
  Okay? Mary sister Maureen gets
• 39:43
  pregnant 1964 and very hastily gets married to her boyfriend,
• 39:47
  David Smith, the same David Smith who used to date Pauline
• 39:51
  Reade. Oh yeah.
• 39:58
  Myra didn't approve and her mother was so embarrassed.
• 40:01
  She didn't go to the wedding because Marin was seven months
• 40:03
  pregnant, when she got married. Okay, oh wow.
• 40:07
  Oh, that dress, see ya. What's going to come out?
• 40:13
  Well, after the wedding and suggest that the two couples,
• 40:16
  take a four-day trip to Lake Windermere which is sounds so
• 40:19
  nice, doesn't it Windermere? Yeah, this is the first time
• 40:23
  David and Ian had actually met properly and in was very
• 40:26
  impressed. By the young man, the two talked
• 40:29
  about Society redistribution of wealth.
• 40:32
  How great it would be to rob a bank.
• 40:34
  Oh, bank robber. Yeah.
• 40:38
  David was impressed by Ian who had been buying all of their
• 40:40
  food and wine during the trip? I mean, I would be to like
• 40:44
  really yeah, no spend money on. Let's go buddy.
• 40:47
  What it was the first of many outings for this couple
• 40:50
  strangely enough this really solidified Mira's jealousy of
• 40:54
  her sister because Myra wanted this small A cute family that
• 40:58
  they had and even though Myra was jealous, they did become
• 41:02
  closer during this track, okay? So, and he's 64.
• 41:08
  Myra her grandmother and Ian, get re house as part of post-war
• 41:12
  slum clearances in Manchester, and they move into a different
• 41:15
  overspill state called hattersley.
• 41:18
  Both Ian and Myra become friends with 11 year old girl named
• 41:24
  Patricia Hodges. I saw what you did there,
• 41:26
  friends? Okay, so, I'm just gonna say
• 41:29
  this as a disclaimer for a person who works with children.
• 41:35
  I tell all parents, this it It rings.
• 41:37
  So, true in the story. No adult needs to be friends
• 41:40
  with a child. It is a big old giant red flag.
• 41:43
  Yeah, know if an adult wants to be close.
• 41:46
  Personal friends with your kid. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 41:50
  So I will spoiler. Nothing happens to Patricia.
• 41:53
  Thank goodness. Hey, but I still think this is
• 41:55
  something that every parent, or every person that takes care of,
• 41:59
  a child should know, do not let grown adults.
• 42:02
  Be friends with your kids, white wire hanging white right hand.
• 42:04
  When my kid exactly, what you got Pokemon cards, let me see.
• 42:07
  See him. Yeah, it was your book about
• 42:10
  Gardner Charizard and get that anyway.
• 42:15
  So, with Patricia, the three go trips to the saddleworth, Moor
• 42:20
  to collect Pete, something that a lot of the renter's were doing
• 42:23
  on this estate to approve their soil, and their Gardens, because
• 42:26
  the soil was full of clay and like rubble from Builders.
• 42:30
  So it was pretty normal for them to go there.
• 42:32
  Patricia does remain unharmed mainly because she only lived a
• 42:36
  few doors away from them. That's what I think.
• 42:38
  So, I think that she was too close and they would have known
• 42:41
  and he would have searched their property to be exact Ali and
• 42:44
  they probably would have found more bodies their problem.
• 42:46
  So, early morning on boxing day in 1964 and so I have to give
• 42:50
  this explanation because it's isn't a Canadian holiday know,
• 42:54
  okay, it's European. So, boxing day is the day right
• 42:57
  after Christmas in the UK and it used to be a day where you gave
• 43:00
  gifts to the poor. But now it's like Black Friday
• 43:02
  in America, huge shopping holiday.
• 43:05
  I could not find any explanation any full explanation on the
• 43:10
  name, though. Why is it called boxing day?
• 43:13
  Because you're getting your box. Okay.
• 43:14
  Maybe not a gift in a bug. I'm pretty sure it's a Canadian.
• 43:17
  Holy to. I mean, it could just be not an
• 43:20
  American. Yeah, as probably, but I know
• 43:22
  it's big in. Europe is probably what it is.
• 43:24
  Yeah, so it's Boxing Day, 1964. Myra just goes to like, I guess
• 43:30
  during Christmas time, she had gone to visit her family,
• 43:33
  extended family, and she leaves her grandmother with her
• 43:36
  extended, family, and refuses to pick her back up and it's just
• 43:40
  like, I'll come, get you tomorrow and never know.
• 43:43
  Mmm. Coincidentally. 10 year-old
• 43:46
  Leslie and Downey disappears from a funfair in an cots and
• 43:52
  coats the same day. Oh, very nice!
• 43:55
  How coincidental at the funfair? They noticed a little girl was
• 43:59
  alone and Myra dropped her shopping that she was carrying
• 44:03
  Leslie, stop to help her and help her take it to the car.
• 44:06
  Both an admirer claim that the other killed Leslie regardless.
• 44:13
  Her nude body was taken to the more and buried there and her
• 44:17
  clothes were buried at her feet bizarrely.
• 44:20
  Just like, last time it was a massive search.
• 44:23
  You'll find out what exactly they did to her later on.
• 44:26
  What am I going to details? Now?
• 44:28
  Lovely, but there's a huge search.
• 44:31
  They find no traces of her and the following day my tree brings
• 44:34
  a grandmother home, okay? This you picture of yeah he did
• 44:38
  pick her up but she didn't pick her up because she wanted to
• 44:40
  kill a girl or house. Yeah.
• 44:42
  I mean Awful terrible. So by February 2065, Patricia
• 44:49
  had stopped visiting them, thankfully but David Smith had
• 44:52
  become a regular visitor, Brady gave Smith books to read and the
• 44:57
  two discussed robbery and murder.
• 44:59
  Hmm, another robbery person. Mmm on Mary's 23rd birthday.
• 45:04
  Her brother and sister-in-law who had until then been living
• 45:08
  with relatives, got rehoused to Underwood Port, which was about
• 45:12
  About a block away from where in Amarillo were living.
• 45:17
  Just sounds like a pat tune to me.
• 45:20
  What's it sound like a patsy? I don't know.
• 45:22
  We'll see. The two couples began to see
• 45:25
  each other more regularly, but it was only based on Brady's
• 45:28
  terms. The only one to see them when he
• 45:31
  wanted to see them. Okay.
• 45:32
  Yeah, I mean I got murdered to do so, you gotta go schedule is
• 45:37
  like a week in advance, buddy. I got murdering to do today.
• 45:39
  So, how about next week, next week Friday?
• 45:42
  Okay, that works well October, 6. 1965 Myra drives to
• 45:46
  Manchester Central Railway Station where she waits and
• 45:49
  selects the victim. After a few minutes.
• 45:55
  They see a boy because he's 17 years old.
• 45:57
  His name is Edward Evans. He's an apprentice engineer
• 46:01
  living in the city of ardwick, and they drive to Meyer and Ians
• 46:05
  house and decide to relax over a bottle of wine, okay?
• 46:10
  No ear tells Myra to go get her brother-in-law.
• 46:13
  It's about a block away. Remember, now, I mentioned
• 46:15
  earlier, that David Smith had a criminal history, he'd had three
• 46:19
  different previous previous convictions, and two of them
• 46:23
  were physically like viola. Okay.
• 46:25
  When was breaking and entering and then hurting someone when he
• 46:28
  did that. My thought process here is that
• 46:31
  Ian is thinking he's meeting another person like him and so
• 46:35
  he's trying to bring this guy in and those are person who is open
• 46:39
  to murdering hmm. Now David was in awe of ear and
• 46:43
  this really worried Myra because she thought that Ian was going
• 46:47
  to start talking about the stuff that they had been doing over
• 46:49
  the last. Yeah.
• 46:50
  And like Let Us slip and probably try to replace her.
• 46:53
  I'm going to say that Mira's worry was not wrong.
• 46:57
  Because she came back in and was just like, tell him to wait
• 47:01
  outside and wait for a signal for my flashlight.
• 47:03
  The signal comes Indian, meets him at the door and asks if he's
• 47:07
  come for the miniature wine bottles, which is weird because
• 47:10
  like I'm sure David was like no I came because you told me to
• 47:14
  come with mean for the wine bottle.
• 47:15
  He's cold to come in or is like a little rate pretty and take
• 47:19
  them into the kitchen to go and collect the wine.
• 47:21
  So I feel like the best way to explain this was this is direct
• 47:24
  like what David told the police. Nice.
• 47:27
  When he made his statement, he said I wait about a minute or
• 47:30
  two and then suddenly I heard I have one hell of a scream.
• 47:33
  It sounded like a woman really high-pitched then the screams
• 47:36
  carried on one after another really loud then I heard Myra
• 47:40
  shout Dave help him very loud when I ran in.
• 47:43
  I just didn't said living room and I saw a young lad, he was
• 47:47
  lying with his head and shoulders on the couch and his
• 47:48
  legs were on the floor. He was facing upward.
• 47:51
  Ian was standing over him facing him with his legs on.
• 47:54
  Either of the young Lads Lads, the lab was Ian had a hatchet in
• 47:58
  his hand. He was holding it above his head
• 48:01
  and he hit the lad on the left side of his head with the
• 48:03
  hatchet. I heard the blow.
• 48:05
  It was a terrible hard. Blow it sounded Hollow.
• 48:09
  Oh my God. Smith then watched as Ian hit
• 48:12
  Edward as Evans with an electrical cord, he strangled
• 48:16
  them. Hmm.
• 48:17
  Brady then asked Smith to help him carry the body to the car
• 48:22
  and the two of them tried. But Ian sprained his ankle
• 48:25
  because this is a almost grown. Adult human being at this point,
• 48:28
  you're right, you're trying to carry.
• 48:30
  So they wrap them up in a plastic sheet and put them in
• 48:32
  the spare bedroom, okay? So then Smith says, all right,
• 48:37
  I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna try and I'm gonna
• 48:40
  bring my babies pram AKA stroller to help dispose of this
• 48:45
  in the morning he goes home. It's about 3:00 a.m. he asks his
• 48:50
  wife to make him some tea then he drinks it vomits.
• 48:53
  And proceeds to tell her everything that just happened
• 48:56
  like a good. As I would do oh my God at 6:10
• 49:01
  a.m. armed with a screwdriver and a bread knife as protection.
• 49:05
  Just in case he were to see Ian Brady outside.
• 49:08
  He goes to a public phone box and calls the police, and the
• 49:13
  police pick him up at that phone booth and take him to the
• 49:16
  station where he gives his statement.
• 49:19
  Okay, go, he tells immediately within six hours, he tells to
• 49:23
  come as I same person should do as any sane person.
• 49:27
  And should do so superintendent, Bob Talbot, and another
• 49:31
  detective agent. Listen.
• 49:33
  And then they go to Ian and Mira's home and they ask Myra,
• 49:37
  is your husband home. She tells him, I don't have a
• 49:39
  husband, I don't live with any man.
• 49:41
  Be, you are lying. So that's the moment where he
• 49:45
  tells her, I'm a police officer and there's been a report of
• 49:48
  violence here last night and we're investigating.
• 49:52
  So Myra denies it. But she's like, whatever, and
• 49:54
  she allows the police to come in and look around.
• 49:57
  Now, this is how you just know that people know, that they're
• 49:59
  in too deep. The she allows the police to go
• 50:03
  everywhere in the house, everything.
• 50:05
  So she did. She do.
• 50:06
  She couldn't get caught. It's except except for the spare
• 50:09
  bedroom, which is locked. Why not let me go in there?
• 50:13
  Why is it locked? Open the door up for me.
• 50:16
  So, at this point, they get inside Ian's in the house.
• 50:19
  So they're like. Okay, so there is a man here and
• 50:22
  so they're like she's like well I don't have the key, I lost the
• 50:25
  one key of the other spares at my job.
• 50:27
  And so, the police officers, like, well, I'll take you to
• 50:31
  your job and finally, and just goes, let them.
• 50:34
  Oh, give him the key. He's like we're, he's like we
• 50:37
  recall this time. Yeah, let's go.
• 50:41
  So the police unlock the guest room and then they walked back
• 50:45
  into the living room and they arrest.
• 50:46
  Ian Brady on suspicion of murder.
• 50:48
  Hmm Brady says as he's leaving Eddie and I had a row and the
• 50:53
  situation just got out of hand. Oh is that what happened wrecked
• 50:56
  quote? Oh you got in a row with a 17
• 50:59
  year old? Okay got it.
• 51:00
  Now while Myra wasn't arrested, she demanded to go to the
• 51:03
  station but she refused to make a statement to the police.
• 51:06
  Just saying it was an accident. They allow her to leave And
• 51:14
  let's see, this was so this happened, October 6, October
• 51:20
  11th Myra gets arrested for accessory to murder for every
• 51:25
  Evan. So thank you so much for only a
• 51:27
  couple days while they do some investigating.
• 51:30
  I wouldn't I want to wrestle her right there because she's she
• 51:32
  damn, she lied to me about not having his face like to my face.
• 51:38
  Anyway, listen in front of my salad.
• 51:41
  Mmm. So, police searched the home and
• 51:45
  they found an exercise book with John kill Brides name in it,
• 51:49
  which immediately makes him suspicious that.
• 51:52
  They must have been involved in the other disappearances.
• 51:54
  Uh-huh. Brady, maintains the lie that
• 51:57
  the two of them have fought while drinking but then he tells
• 52:00
  the police that it was David Smith that killed him.
• 52:04
  And Myra was just doing what she was told when she lied to you.
• 52:09
  So I killed somebody at your house and hid them in Your
• 52:12
  house. But now here's this is why I
• 52:15
  love Smith. So Smith says like listen, he's
• 52:18
  cagey and he's like, super underhanded and he's obsessed
• 52:22
  with train stations. So if you want to find something
• 52:25
  about him, you should probably look there, the police go to the
• 52:31
  local, Manchester James, the train station, and they look for
• 52:35
  all unclaimed luggage, and they find that there is like a series
• 52:39
  of unclaimed luggage and the The ticket for that.
• 52:43
  Luggage was in Mira's purse. Oh, it said she's arrested.
• 52:48
  They have her stuff so they just take it and they grab it.
• 52:52
  So when they open up the suitcase, they find a series of
• 52:55
  pornographic images of Lesley and Downey mind you.
• 53:00
  She was 10 years old as well as a 16 minute video of her coming
• 53:06
  crying and begging to be allowed to leave her mother to go home.
• 53:10
  Come on her mom later came, and confirmed the police.
• 53:14
  That that was her daughter. Oh God.
• 53:16
  Yeah. So we have, they have a
• 53:18
  60-minute tape of. Literally the last Minutes of
• 53:22
  this child's life in all of those photographs as well.
• 53:27
  In the luggage were pictures of the Moor.
• 53:31
  And when they interviewed Patricia Hodge has because they
• 53:33
  interview people, run a neighborhood, she told them, she
• 53:35
  used to go with them to the more so they began to appeal to the
• 53:39
  local people in Manchester and say, do you know where these
• 53:42
  locations are right? Like, there has to be some
• 53:45
  significance to him. Why is he just taking random
• 53:48
  pictures of like All around, all these pictures of the Moor.
• 53:53
  Yeah, places. He might want to revisit one
• 53:55
  day. So after some time, they're able
• 53:57
  to locate one of the locations in the pictures October 21st,
• 54:01
  1965 they find the badly, decomposed body of Kilbride,
• 54:06
  which was only identifiable by its clothing.
• 54:09
  That same day, both Ian and Myra appeared at the hide magistrate
• 54:13
  court and were charged with Leslie and Downey's murder.
• 54:17
  They were suspected of murdering all the children but it was
• 54:20
  November. Now, and they were worried about
• 54:23
  the fact that the ground was getting harder and they weren't
• 54:26
  going to be able to do the kind of digging, they needed to find
• 54:29
  and look through all the pictures.
• 54:30
  Right. Right.
• 54:31
  But it didn't matter. December 2nd, Ian is charged
• 54:33
  with the murders of Evans. Kill Braden Downey Myra with
• 54:36
  Evans and Downey and also Myra is being charged with
• 54:41
  essentially having information about a murder and that's that's
• 54:47
  her issue with Kilbride. She's a conspiracy, okay.
• 54:50
  Okay, essentially, that she knew Ian did it but she didn't say
• 54:54
  anything right trial is set for April, 19th 1966.
• 55:00
  This trial last for 14 days and because of how upset the
• 55:06
  community was, they use screens to try to protect the identity
• 55:12
  of being and Myra from the public really like people were
• 55:16
  out for blood when we people want it but this is the same
• 55:20
  thing that happened with the one that I talked about on Tick-Tock
• 55:22
  with the two ten-year-olds, who killed the four year old boy in
• 55:25
  England. All right.
• 55:26
  Right? Right.
• 55:26
  Yeah. Like people got so angry.
• 55:29
  They wanted to Murder, those murder.
• 55:32
  The murderer. I mean, that's understandable.
• 55:35
  But like, that's like, like, with Kurt current you and do
• 55:39
  that nowadays, like people, see their faces in the news.
• 55:42
  Yeah. Now, we put the names of people
• 55:44
  write in the newspapers, but this this like this, even this
• 55:49
  attempt didn't help everybody related to them in the end
• 55:53
  struggle because of what they did during the both of them
• 55:58
  enter pleas of not guilty, just the audacity A city.
• 56:00
  Like we really have a video, we have audio of you, we can hear
• 56:04
  you. But regardless we found a dead
• 56:06
  body in your house true and testified for over eight hours
• 56:10
  and Myra 46, and admits to hitting Evans with an axe.
• 56:14
  But claims that that was not to hit that killed him and he was
• 56:18
  still alive, and somebody else must have finished him off.
• 56:20
  Oh, so hitting, someone would have asked us to kill them.
• 56:23
  Well, here's the thing. So, here's what he said.
• 56:25
  So, his defense said that the pathologist's report said that
• 56:29
  his death Been accelerated by strangulation.
• 56:33
  And so Ian's on this Dan going, see I told you the accident, do
• 56:37
  it. Yeah you strangled him after you
• 56:39
  hit him with the right thing. He sang somebody else must have
• 56:41
  strangled him know. He didn't do it.
• 56:43
  No nose and it's definitely not Myra and it's definitely
• 56:48
  probably David is what he's insinuating here, but the police
• 56:52
  are like listen. David Smith is not on trial
• 56:54
  you're on trial but regardless he comes off, extremely arrogant
• 56:59
  and it does nothing. Thing to help his case.
• 57:01
  The jury does not like him. I wouldn't even really just get
• 57:05
  them all the get out of here, the 16-minute take Downey, like
• 57:10
  the 60-minute tape of Downey screaming is played in court,
• 57:13
  not the visual but just the audio.
• 57:16
  Both and Myra are heard on the tape Myra says that the only
• 57:21
  reason why she was so Brusque and rude to Downey was due to
• 57:24
  the screaming and that she just wanted her to like be quiet.
• 57:27
  So, she also said, when Danny was being undressed, forcibly,
• 57:31
  for those pictures, she was downstairs.
• 57:34
  Looking out the window when Daddy was being killed.
• 57:39
  She was upstairs drawing a bath, so she couldn't hear anything.
• 57:43
  Oh, I'm sure. I love your lies.
• 57:47
  Some of your Bridge Somewhere in Brooklyn.
• 57:48
  He also claimed, she had no idea that Ian had taken pictures of
• 57:52
  these burial sites. Okay, so I'm a sex 1965 after
• 57:59
  lib deliberating for two hours. The jury finds them guilty of
• 58:04
  all charges. Of course.
• 58:06
  Now the death penalty had just been abolished while they were.
• 58:11
  So the only acceptable sentence was life in prison, Brady was
• 58:14
  given three concurrent life sentences and hindley 2 plus an
• 58:18
  additional seven years for her knowledge of Kilbride murdering
• 58:21
  and harboring a murderer, right? So a lot of time passes, they
• 58:28
  both go to jail. Even has a rough time of it.
• 58:31
  As you would expect. Honestly, anybody who harms
• 58:34
  children or commits a sexual assault, has a hard time in
• 58:37
  prison. Probably.
• 58:39
  Yeah. And I'm glad about this like
• 58:42
  yeah who's really bothered by the fact that people gave him a
• 58:44
  hard time in jail. Nobody a but 1985 and tells a
• 58:50
  journalist that he killed Polly read and Keith Bennett.
• 58:55
  And the police stopped by his prison to speak to him.
• 58:59
  And he is very like, angry and agitated.
• 59:03
  It's like I didn't say anything like that.
• 59:05
  Why are you here? I didn't just confessed to a
• 59:07
  murder state, any new murders? So the police decide to start
• 59:12
  searching the Moors using the photographs.
• 59:14
  Again, if it's 20 years later, Keith Bennett's mom.
• 59:18
  Writes this heartbreaking letter to Myra and November of 1986
• 59:24
  bagging her too. To tell the police that just
• 59:26
  tell them where you buried my son, like just woman to woman.
• 59:30
  Like I just need to know where he is.
• 59:33
  Yeah, like okay, for one you're already in jail.
• 59:36
  So nothing else is going to happen to you.
• 59:38
  You already got life in prison just like help me out.
• 59:41
  Help me like get some closure out of this.
• 59:43
  Well, police visit Myra and she says no I definitely had nothing
• 59:47
  to do with this but I will help. But she says she needs to visit
• 59:52
  the Moors to be sure. That's 85.
• 59:58
  There were two visits that happen and A lot of people
• 1:00:04
  doubted her intention. They were like she just wants
• 1:00:08
  like a break to leave the prison.
• 1:00:09
  You know, she's been inside for 20 years and who wouldn't she
• 1:00:12
  just wants to go out and see the sun, you know, experience the
• 1:00:15
  beautiful Lush landscape but she'd actually does she like
• 1:00:20
  they'd she sits down with the police with like maps and
• 1:00:23
  pictures of the Moor and she kind of pinpoints every place
• 1:00:28
  that her and even used to go and And they launched a major search
• 1:00:35
  in, 1987, okay? With all this information, that
• 1:00:39
  Meyer gave to them your prior after 100-day, search and 1987,
• 1:00:46
  they find Colleen's body in July, on July 1st, with the
• 1:00:52
  body, and finally, admits to killing her.
• 1:00:58
  But they have still been searching for Keith Bennett's
• 1:01:01
  body, even as far back as 2017-2018, they've been using
• 1:01:06
  newer technology. All right, like legitimately the
• 1:01:10
  seismographs and stuff like that, they've been trying to use
• 1:01:12
  modern technology to try and figure out.
• 1:01:14
  It's a massive area. Right.
• 1:01:17
  In Manchester as I said, I wanted to kind of give you a
• 1:01:21
  Idea. Because leaky.
• 1:01:24
  Oh my God. Maybe we can find a map.
• 1:01:28
  It's a huge. It's a huge part of the area.
• 1:01:31
  And It's like I said it's beautiful but it's just this
• 1:01:35
  massive, beautiful mirror, there's rivers and other stuff,
• 1:01:39
  and you also like, like stuff underground moves.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah, over time this point now it's been 40 years.
• 1:01:48
  All that would be left would be bone.
• 1:01:52
  Well, I mean yeah, you still may be some cloth but maybe you can
• 1:01:56
  find a score at least. Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  You know. So we have there's no happy
• 1:02:01
  ending when it comes to keep at it.
• 1:02:03
  Eric and his family. That's probably the biggest.
• 1:02:07
  Like most heartbreaking part of this for me.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, just that this 12 year old boy help the lady.
• 1:02:14
  Put her stuff in the back of her car and he was never heard from
• 1:02:17
  again. Got that for his troubles,
• 1:02:20
  right? As far as, like I said, nobody
• 1:02:24
  around the scenario. Came out really well.
• 1:02:29
  So David Smith got approached by a lot of papers to sell his
• 1:02:33
  story, of course, the old. And I miss is thousands upon
• 1:02:36
  thousands of dollars and ultimately he did sell his story
• 1:02:40
  to a paper which was not the best idea for him, he became
• 1:02:46
  kind of the most hated man. Manchester.
• 1:02:49
  I mean yeah. I'm like openly reviled and
• 1:02:53
  because of that like not only that but my Maureen Myra sister,
• 1:02:58
  she like, they like she gets attacked while she's in the
• 1:03:02
  elevator at her apartment while she's pregnant.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, they both received like countless amount of hate mail.
• 1:03:09
  Their home is vandalized. Oh my gosh, my stuff like when
• 1:03:13
  they were trying to like hide their identity.
• 1:03:15
  Yeah like because just the fact that That Marine was related to
• 1:03:21
  Myra Guilty, By Association. You had to have known that she
• 1:03:25
  was doing all this horrible stuff.
• 1:03:27
  She's your sister know. We like those kinds of messages
• 1:03:30
  and letters really hung up when they want to hang out over there
• 1:03:33
  all the time. Listen to this.
• 1:03:36
  But regardless, Ian, Brady died in 2017 of heart disease.
• 1:03:42
  A jerk until the very end. I believe it at the end he was
• 1:03:46
  doing like a hunger strike. Oh, for some ridiculous reason
• 1:03:50
  and that apparently had nothing to do with the fact that he died
• 1:03:53
  from heart disease. Myra died from bronchial,
• 1:03:58
  pneumonia after a lifetime of chain-smoking and being
• 1:04:01
  diagnosed with angina and a brain aneurysm.
• 1:04:05
  Gotcha, one of the things that Ian was actually kind of bitter
• 1:04:09
  about is the fact that like 20 or so years after Alice has gone
• 1:04:16
  down, Myra gets, has like a brain aneurysm and he's just
• 1:04:21
  like, oh, she has a brain condition, so, she doesn't even
• 1:04:23
  have to deal with all this garbage that I have to deal
• 1:04:25
  with, because she's like, not all the way there, dude.
• 1:04:30
  You did this to yourself, exactly.
• 1:04:34
  But yeah. He's very, he's like there's so
• 1:04:36
  much stuff that like I could talk to you about how bitter in
• 1:04:39
  prettiest, but I'm so mad I called for doing all these
• 1:04:42
  horrible crimes not gonna deal with this, my whole life,
• 1:04:47
  interesting things that I came across and I will say this is
• 1:04:50
  sort of a funny out of the probably the funniest detail
• 1:04:52
  here so there's a 2020 documentary over the UK called
• 1:04:57
  Rose West and Myra hindley, I haven't talked much about Rose
• 1:05:00
  West, she was part of another couple that were particularly
• 1:05:04
  awful. And did some seriously, horrible
• 1:05:07
  sex crimes. Mmm, Rose West.
• 1:05:10
  And Myra hindley. And one other woman from 2013,
• 1:05:13
  are the only three women in British history to be given
• 1:05:16
  lifetime sentences for their crimes.
• 1:05:19
  That's, it's very hard to get a life sentence in the UK.
• 1:05:24
  Like, you have to do something really rough?
• 1:05:26
  Wow. Like you don't get like a life
• 1:05:28
  sentence, like, you know, in the u.s. you might get a life
• 1:05:30
  sentence for like drugs. Yeah, they don't do that.
• 1:05:32
  It's not like that over there but for murder, it's serious and
• 1:05:36
  murders. That's when so there's only
• 1:05:37
  three women who have been given these kind of sentences in the
• 1:05:40
  u.s., I mean, the UK. Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  But either way, so Rose West and Myra hindley were both in the
• 1:05:47
  same prison at the same time. And so in this documentary
• 1:05:53
  called their untold story, it says that Myra and rosemary,
• 1:05:59
  West grew close in jail bonded over their similar crimes
• 1:06:04
  because Of them sexually assaulted children.
• 1:06:06
  What a thing to bond? I know, I mean, it's like
• 1:06:08
  pedophiles doing the same thing then apparently had an affair.
• 1:06:12
  Oh nice. Which ended badly and they
• 1:06:15
  became Rivals as prison royalty. Oh my God, being the worst women
• 1:06:21
  in the present arms, watch this documentary.
• 1:06:25
  But I want to, is this Orange is the New Black.
• 1:06:28
  You can I just knew Black UK Edition Rose West admire his?
• 1:06:32
  Oh my God. Okay.
• 1:06:35
  But yeah. Actually, the only thing I know
• 1:06:37
  about Rose West recently in the news is that people in the UK
• 1:06:40
  were mad because she got the covid vaccine and they were
• 1:06:43
  like, one of the worst serial rapists, and murderers, and UK
• 1:06:48
  history should not be getting a covid.
• 1:06:50
  Vaccine, do you say I heard you? Yeah, we were talking about that
• 1:06:53
  weeks ago. Yes, he bore mad.
• 1:06:56
  I understand, I mean, that's right.
• 1:06:59
  Yeah, that's one thing I'm tight.
• 1:07:00
  Listen. When the UK does not like
• 1:07:02
  somebody, they do. They are dating.
• 1:07:04
  Now, Like somebody they like I said they attacked like they
• 1:07:08
  they like rioted outside of the courtroom where those two boys
• 1:07:12
  were on trial for murdering the four-year-old in the 90s.
• 1:07:17
  The families of those two boys had to change their names.
• 1:07:21
  Not just the boys had to change their names, but their families
• 1:07:24
  had to get new identities and move to other parts of England.
• 1:07:28
  I mean, yeah, that's how serious the public outcry is.
• 1:07:32
  And it's interesting because I have a tick tock about those two
• 1:07:34
  Boys, one of them is name, is John Venable?
• 1:07:37
  And my comment section is chaotic.
• 1:07:41
  It is full of people who are like no murder them.
• 1:07:45
  They should have been killed when they were 10 years old.
• 1:07:47
  My godchildren. You're like, doesn't matter.
• 1:07:49
  They like brutalized a four year old boys.
• 1:07:52
  That's like, this is just one of those things that like, it's
• 1:07:55
  very, very tough. Invite them.
• 1:07:58
  Yeah, it's a very divisive topic.
• 1:08:00
  But listen, the UK, like, they will come after you.
• 1:08:02
  So I hope you were Happy to everyone listening who really
• 1:08:07
  wanted to hear about this? Can I just say how much I love
• 1:08:10
  the UK and I plan on visiting their some timing.
• 1:08:15
  I love that. You listen.
• 1:08:16
  I love it. You hate your serial killers so
• 1:08:18
  much that you try and take them out.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah, like like, seriously, I love the UK lives.
• 1:08:23
  Like, let's go. I'm here for it.
• 1:08:25
  Let's do it. Oh my God.
• 1:08:29
  Yes, that's it. It's not like, listen, there's
• 1:08:34
  no way you didn't know that your sister was a murderer.
• 1:08:37
  We hate you to imagine. Like even if you didn't know,
• 1:08:40
  you had to have no. Even if you didn't know, you had
• 1:08:43
  to have known that your sister was a Monster.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah. Thank you very much.
• 1:09:00
  Well, yeah, we move into the part of the evening.
• 1:09:04
  That is all about Ryan and spooky thing.
• 1:09:09
  Yay. Um, okay.
• 1:09:13
  So I don't know how to start dissolve.
• 1:09:16
  What's it about since you're all mr.
• 1:09:21
  Secretive over there. Well I gave you a pun at the
• 1:09:23
  beginning. As a never get the puns you all
• 1:09:28
  this Hopefully other people can get my jokes in done and in
• 1:09:34
  appreciate the comedic humor I bring to the show.
• 1:09:39
  I think you're very funny. Did you get my dad jokes?
• 1:09:44
  I just, I listen, I have to understand the pun to get the
• 1:09:47
  pun. Anyway, that give me more
• 1:09:51
  information. I just said, one word that's
• 1:09:54
  part of the the story I'm talking about.
• 1:09:56
  So yeah, okay, let's see. Okay, so we're gonna guess, is
• 1:10:01
  it Ghosts? No crafted.
• 1:10:06
  Sort of sorta. Is it International?
• 1:10:14
  Kind of because that I'm really interested.
• 1:10:17
  I think I'm going to take start doing some International stuff
• 1:10:19
  and I know there's some International weirdness.
• 1:10:21
  That's cool too. I mean one originally I think
• 1:10:25
  here okay and the other one is from Canada.
• 1:10:30
  So I guess that that that's not America.
• 1:10:33
  They like when we talk about things that are not America.
• 1:10:35
  So whoo-hoo We're going to get better at that.
• 1:10:39
  Hmm. Actually I think, didn't we say
• 1:10:41
  next month? We're just going to go full all
• 1:10:43
  International stuff, dry, whoo-hoo.
• 1:10:46
  All right, I'm ready for you. Okay?
• 1:10:49
  Today I will be talking about Creepypastas.
• 1:10:54
  Hmm. Creepypastas, originally
• 1:10:59
  referred to as short user-generated horror stories
• 1:11:03
  that were copied and pasted it across the internet.
• 1:11:07
  Like, I remember like reading entries or reading stories, like
• 1:11:12
  back before they even like called Creepypastas.
• 1:11:15
  I used to Read Creepypastas the way I read scps now where I just
• 1:11:19
  sit down and I just click through them and I get stuck
• 1:11:21
  doing it for hours. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:23
  You suggest to, that's what I used to do, depression, help
• 1:11:27
  that as well. I guess I don't even want, I
• 1:11:29
  don't even know what we would call that.
• 1:11:30
  That's like I mean they were just they look like a Wiki page
• 1:11:35
  but like if okay. So like, oh my phone, I have an
• 1:11:38
  app to Read Manga. It's like, when I'm doing that
• 1:11:41
  and I'm just like scrolling. And if it's a manga it's like
• 1:11:44
  completed and I just started it, then they have so many chapters
• 1:11:47
  to it. I'm going to probably like read
• 1:11:49
  half of them on, I feel you. But yeah, yeah I just remember
• 1:11:55
  like Reading these back in the day before they even like used
• 1:11:59
  to make YouTube videos about them.
• 1:12:02
  I remember the first two I remember before there was
• 1:12:04
  YouTube. I know, right?
• 1:12:06
  So first of all, remember, reading about were Candle Cove
• 1:12:10
  and the one called this man. You have never heard of.
• 1:12:15
  Okay. So can we I don't really have
• 1:12:16
  the synopsis of running me camera.
• 1:12:18
  Coves. Just basically shared memory.
• 1:12:21
  Not like share memories thing, but it's a someone a poster
• 1:12:25
  posted something about an ode TV show.
• 1:12:28
  They watched as a child and it's called Candle Cove.
• 1:12:32
  And on the show, they were like, mate.
• 1:12:34
  Most of the characters on the show were puppets and there was
• 1:12:37
  one human girl character as well.
• 1:12:40
  Okay, this does sound familiar Inkay.
• 1:12:44
  And they're just like one creepy episode.
• 1:12:46
  We're all like everybody was just screaming and I would love
• 1:12:50
  to find that. Yeah, you gotta look at larious
• 1:12:53
  but no I think my first Creepypasta was the one that's
• 1:12:57
  based off of Zelda been drowned and the corrupted game and the
• 1:13:03
  the yeah I think I remember reading that and being
• 1:13:05
  thoroughly creeped out. Yeah Ben Drowned that's a good
• 1:13:08
  one. That's a good, a good classic
• 1:13:10
  one. Yeah Gaming Creepypasta and the
• 1:13:13
  The one called this man. Have you heard of this man?
• 1:13:17
  No, so this man is God, okay. So you know, how I hate police
• 1:13:24
  sketch artist drawings? Absolutely, because they are
• 1:13:27
  devoid of life. This picture of this man, looks
• 1:13:33
  like that gave me nightmares for about like two weeks.
• 1:13:40
  So I read that like I read it on.
• 1:13:44
  I don't know what I read it on, but there's no actual website
• 1:13:47
  called this, man, not order.com, whatever, and is it the picture
• 1:13:54
  that says have you seen this man?
• 1:13:55
  And he's got like, a weird chubby face and big lips in the
• 1:13:57
  fucking unibrow. Yes.
• 1:13:59
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:14:01
  Yeah. Anyway, that gives me chills.
• 1:14:06
  Yeah, houses are like fun things.
• 1:14:07
  Like can you dream about a person you've never seen before
• 1:14:10
  and like shared dreaming like Creepypastas and stuff like
• 1:14:13
  that? Really cool.
• 1:14:14
  Yeah, that guy, he apparently it appears in people's Dreams.
• 1:14:17
  Yeah, I'm like you're supposed to like in your dreams.
• 1:14:21
  You're only supposed to see people that you've seen in your
• 1:14:23
  real life. I don't think that's true, and
• 1:14:27
  that's not true for me. Because I said, you know, I've
• 1:14:29
  had entire like walking dead dreams with the entire cast.
• 1:14:33
  Helping me like, okay, I'll try my family and your real life
• 1:14:36
  though. I've seen them on TV.
• 1:14:38
  Exactly, I will say people who I don't know, some people don't
• 1:14:43
  like appear fully in my dreams. They seem like, kind of like,
• 1:14:48
  what are we watching that had, like the mannequins in the
• 1:14:51
  background? I don't know.
• 1:14:53
  I just remember claim little nightmares last night.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, I think yes, kind of, like, in the background.
• 1:14:59
  Like, sometimes I have people in my memory, like, in my dreams
• 1:15:04
  like that who are just like, we just need placeholders here.
• 1:15:07
  Like, essentially, my dreams have extras and the extras,
• 1:15:10
  don't need faces. Only the star of the show needs
• 1:15:14
  faces in my dream. I just, I don't know.
• 1:15:16
  I see, I've had dreams about people who have never met
• 1:15:18
  before. Exactly.
• 1:15:19
  Same here people who I'm like, maybe these are faces of people.
• 1:15:21
  I met when I was walking through life, you know.
• 1:15:25
  But here's my, I think, once you see this picture of this man,
• 1:15:29
  like now you see that? So now, it's in your head.
• 1:15:35
  Also, his proportions are very wrong.
• 1:15:36
  Yeah. It's just a weird-looking guy.
• 1:15:39
  Some of these are 3D image of it.
• 1:15:41
  Is Anwar okay? Can we not I'm not going to show
• 1:15:43
  you. I'm not gonna make you sit,
• 1:15:44
  watch it. It's just weird.
• 1:15:45
  It's bad. Just if you're listening.
• 1:15:48
  Look up. 3D this man. It's awful.
• 1:15:50
  Looking. Oh my God.
• 1:15:51
  Anyway but so okay, that is one thing I am really, really
• 1:15:54
  afraid. That baby's.
• 1:15:56
  I don't want to look at it ever. Hey.
• 1:15:59
  So anyway, there's a large community based around horror
• 1:16:04
  stories Creepypastas. Don't know if you checked out,
• 1:16:07
  would you consider our No Sleep Creepypastas?
• 1:16:10
  Absolutely. Yeah, I love.
• 1:16:12
  That's one of my favorite places to just read and then take a,
• 1:16:15
  you know, go to bed. Yeah.
• 1:16:17
  Yeah. Great thing to go to sleep with,
• 1:16:19
  you know, subreddit no sleep. It's now most of the stories
• 1:16:24
  they are made to seem Like they're true, but most of the
• 1:16:28
  fun of that subreddit is that you never doubt the truth of the
• 1:16:33
  story you'll get, no, you never publicly say that didn't happen.
• 1:16:38
  You get removed. Yeah.
• 1:16:39
  How dare you don't? Don't do this for the fun of it.
• 1:16:42
  Is that we pretend or we behave as if this thing that someone's
• 1:16:46
  writing to us about is 100% real.
• 1:16:49
  Really a time. We just like yeah.
• 1:16:50
  Okay that's that's creepy as fuck dude.
• 1:16:53
  I hope you got out. Safely.
• 1:16:54
  Got people are like oh wow. How have you done this?
• 1:16:57
  This, this this and this like, people really engage with it.
• 1:17:00
  It's a nice Community. Yeah, I love it.
• 1:17:02
  Um, so where was I? So we talked about this man and
• 1:17:07
  ones that you like to wear you down sir.
• 1:17:08
  So like I was little you even got to it.
• 1:17:11
  So I was going to say, check out Reddit, there's some amazing
• 1:17:14
  writers, they're really authors on Reddit of specially the
• 1:17:18
  subreddit, no sleep. They have great writers there.
• 1:17:23
  Anyway, we're going to be talking about to Creepypastas
• 1:17:26
  today. All right, one from the early
• 1:17:28
  days of Creepypastas. All right?
• 1:17:30
  And one that is a current creature in the Creepypasta, I
• 1:17:37
  guess, sir? Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Okay, I guess it is. Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  Okay, so let's start off with a brief history of these spooky
• 1:17:45
  spaghettis. These frightful fettuccine, he's
• 1:17:49
  silly. These the frightful feta cheese.
• 1:17:53
  I like that Creepypastas. All right.
• 1:17:57
  So, we're Creepypastas Chrome from is pretty much unknown.
• 1:18:02
  Like, what were the name, actually?
• 1:18:04
  Not, where name Creepypasta. Have like, a time period of
• 1:18:07
  like, when the first website was where?
• 1:18:09
  Yeah, where do the exact origins of like the first Creepypasta
• 1:18:14
  originated from like there's a time frame for it.
• 1:18:20
  But early Creepypastas were written by Anonymous users and
• 1:18:24
  then we posted some think that the earliest Creepypastas were,
• 1:18:29
  you know, those those Chain Letter emails that you can get.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah. Those are horrible.
• 1:18:34
  Like yeah. Puss that resend this.
• 1:18:37
  So you're going to see her when you wake up.
• 1:18:39
  Yeah. The middle of the night.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah. Those ones back in the early
• 1:18:43
  90s, actually back in the nineties.
• 1:18:45
  Yeah. You get those in the nineties.
• 1:18:47
  So, you know, that's where the internet was popping off at the
• 1:18:50
  I'm so is that new thing? Yeah.
• 1:18:54
  So name Creepypasta, it came from where else but Fortune
• 1:18:59
  okay, I thought so it's a it's a portmanteau of the word copy
• 1:19:04
  pasta. So yeah, copy copy paste, copy
• 1:19:08
  creepy story, it's a creepypasta.
• 1:19:10
  Alrighty. So most of the earliest
• 1:19:14
  Creepypastas were usually rituals personal accounts and
• 1:19:19
  urban legends, right? So if you go on Yeah, I spelled
• 1:19:25
  on live but I meant online if you go online.
• 1:19:30
  Now, you'll be able to find like a lot of Creepypasta websites.
• 1:19:36
  Now, these websites didn't start to be like start being made
• 1:19:40
  until like the late 2000s. Okay, sir to 2010.
• 1:19:44
  So 2000-2010 different Wiki has. Yeah, so Creepypasta.com was
• 1:19:51
  made and 2008, okay. And if you love Reddit and
• 1:19:55
  follow the no-sleep subreddit it was created in 2010 really?
• 1:20:01
  That reset. Yes!
• 1:20:05
  What else? There's another website.
• 1:20:07
  That was I didn't write it down, darn it.
• 1:20:09
  Okay but yet these these have been so these websites they have
• 1:20:17
  An expansive amount of their archive has like a lot of creepy
• 1:20:22
  pastas and it now Creepypastas range from the whore
• 1:20:29
  Creepypastas to unsettling Creepypastas, I would say harder
• 1:20:34
  is not the ones that got me. Unsettling a couple of maybe two
• 1:20:38
  or three years ago, this guy said he was a his job was to
• 1:20:44
  find lost people in the wild. And he it was like a 10 part
• 1:20:49
  Series where he just talked about his experience, trying to
• 1:20:52
  find people in the wilderness like forests and national parks
• 1:20:56
  and things. And he also talked about like
• 1:20:58
  how he would come across. Just stairwells, oh yes,
• 1:21:02
  laterally, stairways going their way and going nowhere.
• 1:21:05
  And they weren't like part of Foundations or anything and that
• 1:21:08
  everybody who worked with him told him not to go up them and
• 1:21:11
  he took pictures of them. And I think this was a real
• 1:21:14
  person who did that job. And I think that those are
• 1:21:18
  stairways from former homes that were built there, but it is
• 1:21:22
  super creepy and unsettling to think.
• 1:21:25
  Like, if you start climbing these steps, what's gonna
• 1:21:27
  happen, it's a it's a creepypasta, it's a search and
• 1:21:30
  rescue the other search and rescue guy.
• 1:21:32
  That's is what that's what I did.
• 1:21:33
  I was like he's the guy who saves people from the woods.
• 1:21:36
  It's a serious surgery was one of that.
• 1:21:38
  Like that's one of my favorites. Okay.
• 1:21:40
  So one of my favorite cream. Pasta narrators is mr.
• 1:21:45
  Creepy Pasta. Okay, if you You are on YouTube
• 1:21:48
  and you listen to Creepypastas you know all about mr.
• 1:21:51
  Creepy Pasta. See that's so funny because you
• 1:21:53
  know, who my favorite is who corpse husband, he does
• 1:21:56
  Creepypasta read as he does YouTube.
• 1:21:58
  He reads, he read stories that people submit to him of their
• 1:22:02
  own like scary things before he got into gaming.
• 1:22:05
  That was what he used to do. I don't know that.
• 1:22:07
  That's how I knew he was when all of a sudden he was on
• 1:22:09
  everybody stream. Yeah, deep voice in it.
• 1:22:14
  That's like, oh, he's one of the creepy people.
• 1:22:17
  Are you still listening? You had 12?
• 1:22:19
  Okay? Yeah, I just post whatever.
• 1:22:21
  I have a couple that I posted. I was actually I joined a
• 1:22:25
  contest like twice for like narration.
• 1:22:29
  Is God Chilling. Tales for Dark Nights.
• 1:22:32
  Oh cool. They have an evil idol
• 1:22:34
  competition like once a year. I think they stopped like ones.
• 1:22:38
  I'm not sure. But when covid hit the kind of
• 1:22:41
  like they had it but it wasn't like and I like I want to end up
• 1:22:45
  like twice and I didn't Whatever.
• 1:22:48
  Anyway. Listen, listen, it's different.
• 1:22:50
  Now I think that your oh well, I think experience.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah, voice person. Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Now I have experienced underneath my belt as a voice
• 1:22:59
  actor. But there you go.
• 1:23:01
  And at first like whenever I entered they said that, you
• 1:23:06
  know, my equipment, I must have been like, because they said, I
• 1:23:09
  had a great voice but they tell you all the time.
• 1:23:12
  Yeah. So he said like you just get
• 1:23:15
  like trying to get a better Mike Like your software or something
• 1:23:18
  and then like well that makes sense.
• 1:23:21
  I mean even before we got these new or mics for the podcast, it
• 1:23:25
  was there was a slightly 10 equality, right?
• 1:23:27
  Kitty other one and that does affect it and people don't like
• 1:23:30
  that. So I understand this is true, so
• 1:23:35
  his mr. Creepypasta, his voice.
• 1:23:38
  He like he can tell a story, he can make he can like immerse you
• 1:23:44
  into what he's telling you any one of my co-workers just
• 1:23:46
  Mentioned another person he listened to, and he was just
• 1:23:48
  like, who got a person on YouTube that talks about like
• 1:23:52
  True Crime and has a really cool voice.
• 1:23:54
  You just like I just want to be that guy's friend, there's just
• 1:23:57
  something about real people who do this that you just love them
• 1:24:00
  like and I say that I want to be their friend, as I'm like also
• 1:24:03
  in your field. I'm like I look up to you sir
• 1:24:06
  this lady. We know we can meet all these
• 1:24:08
  people who talk about all the same creepy stuff that we talked
• 1:24:10
  about. Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  But if you go onto his, if your sub to him on YouTube, we go to
• 1:24:16
  his YouTube, he has a playlist owners called it's from.
• 1:24:20
  Its from unsettling stories, that's an author.
• 1:24:24
  And and selling stories, I come, I think.
• 1:24:27
  And one of the playlist is called runners It's about some
• 1:24:33
  stories about some mushrooms and yeah, and that's all I'm going
• 1:24:38
  to talk about from that, but like, if you want to like, fill
• 1:24:43
  your skin crawl, here's the problem.
• 1:24:46
  I really like when people are talking, but you know what, I
• 1:24:49
  hate the like Thematic music behind them.
• 1:24:54
  I don't like that. That's hard.
• 1:24:56
  I don't like the that's part of the atmosphere door, slams.
• 1:25:00
  I don't like it. Um, our seam.
• 1:25:03
  I know it's very cool, but I don't have to listen to that.
• 1:25:06
  Okay. But think you always have to our
• 1:25:08
  theme is from a, he does Creepypasta music.
• 1:25:11
  That's what that person. It's very cool, it's thematic.
• 1:25:17
  But like, when I'm trying to like I'm in here by myself, have
• 1:25:20
  it on my TV? Like, the creepy music, like
• 1:25:23
  The, the ambience, freaks me out sometimes more than what they're
• 1:25:26
  talking about. Exactly, that's the setting
• 1:25:31
  part. Anyway, I wasn't trying to
• 1:25:34
  advertise for him, but no. Apparently, he also search and
• 1:25:38
  rescue for mr. Creepy.
• 1:25:39
  Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
• 1:25:41
  Listen he did the yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:44
  Listen to it made the deal. Like he probably made a deal
• 1:25:47
  with the guy who? Yeah, because there's a boat at
• 1:25:49
  because that person who wrote that was a huge.
• 1:25:51
  I was a huge one. I'm gonna sleep.
• 1:25:52
  That's so cool. Yep.
• 1:25:53
  Because you have to like negotiate prices, absolutely
• 1:25:59
  Okay. So anyway, and let me fanboying.
• 1:26:07
  Let's see where was IA at. Okay, so now, nowadays copying
• 1:26:12
  and pasting Creepypasta. Isn't common.
• 1:26:17
  Now you kind of a faux pas. Exactly.
• 1:26:19
  So it's due to the fact that a lot of the a lot of people who
• 1:26:24
  make Creepypastas, nowadays are authors and they do this for a
• 1:26:28
  living. Well it's a way to get people
• 1:26:30
  spooked and interested in your work.
• 1:26:32
  Yeah. And then they go oh, who wrote
• 1:26:34
  this. And then there's a link at the
• 1:26:36
  bottom of the Creepypasta and now you go to their Amazon late
• 1:26:39
  and you see do you see the the mystery books?
• 1:26:42
  They've written? Yeah.
• 1:26:43
  You want to buy them so I totally got it.
• 1:26:45
  So Way to use the community so, you know, helps your craft yeah.
• 1:26:49
  So make sure if you want to like start a YouTube channel or like
• 1:26:53
  a podcast, make sure you get permission from your ulcers,
• 1:26:57
  please. Before you read these know what
• 1:27:00
  that being said, yeah, I'm going to get into the Creepypastas.
• 1:27:06
  I want to talk about today now you said, one of them was from a
• 1:27:09
  long time ago. And is that the one that you
• 1:27:11
  were trying to? Yeah.
• 1:27:13
  Find the author for yes. Said it was on like 20 different
• 1:27:16
  websites. Yeah, all just said Anonymous.
• 1:27:18
  Yes. So now this like Britney says
• 1:27:23
  this story. I was lucky.
• 1:27:24
  I am going to read to you guys was posted by an anonymous user
• 1:27:28
  on. Well, not on Creepypasta.com,
• 1:27:31
  but that's where I found it. At first.
• 1:27:33
  It was Post-its on Creepypasta.com as an anonymous
• 1:27:37
  user, I checked over the web or for this, whoever wrote this
• 1:27:43
  story, I couldn't I find like a source for it.
• 1:27:47
  I just found several sources for the story but not, someone
• 1:27:51
  everyone says the same thing. Yeah, it's not like Anonymous.
• 1:27:54
  We don't know who it came from. So here you go.
• 1:27:57
  I'm just going to let me see. I'm gonna have to pull it up.
• 1:28:00
  Oh, I'm going to read this story before I tell you who I'm
• 1:28:06
  covering and hopefully from the clues of the story.
• 1:28:09
  You guys will figure out who I'm covering.
• 1:28:12
  Let me go to the website first because I did not, it's a long
• 1:28:19
  story and I feel like writing it all down because how dare I be
• 1:28:24
  so lazy. Hold on.
• 1:28:28
  I don't want it. I'll just be dead.
• 1:28:34
  They go well, one sec. Okay.
• 1:28:42
  Ready. Yes.
• 1:28:44
  Okay. So I got this story.
• 1:28:47
  Like I said, I got the story from Creepypasta.com.
• 1:28:50
  If you go after I tell you who I'm talking about, you go there,
• 1:28:53
  you can check it out. And yeah.
• 1:28:57
  So without further ado, We're going to story.
• 1:29:04
  After waking up with a joke, the girl laid in bed, a few seconds
• 1:29:08
  longer reaching over the switch on her bedside lamp.
• 1:29:11
  She tried to remember exactly what has stolen her sweet
• 1:29:15
  Slumber away. When she couldn't the brunette's
• 1:29:18
  Winger legs over the side of the bed and he drew self up, check
• 1:29:22
  any time with her phone. She snorted when she saw that,
• 1:29:25
  it was midnight, the witching hour.
• 1:29:28
  Knowing their sleep would only evade her, she left her bedroom
• 1:29:31
  for the kitchen. The good cup of coffee on her
• 1:29:34
  mind as she passed. By the front door.
• 1:29:37
  A chills friend like Liquid Fire down her spine, it's only
• 1:29:41
  winter. She thought she told herself
• 1:29:43
  focusing again, on the coffee plan, measuring out cups, water
• 1:29:47
  and preparing her cup kept her occupied.
• 1:29:51
  But as the dark liquid boiled, she had nothing left to keep her
• 1:29:55
  mind from wandering off. The chill return and she
• 1:29:59
  couldn't help but glance behind her to the front door.
• 1:30:03
  It stood there. Innocently enough just like
• 1:30:06
  always the dead bolt was still in place, is she could see
• 1:30:10
  nothing amiss with it. Turning back to her coffee.
• 1:30:13
  She did her best to forget about the feeling was her Cup in hand.
• 1:30:17
  She started back towards her bedroom and she walked by the
• 1:30:22
  front door. She decided that a quick glance
• 1:30:24
  out of the peephole. But how Co her Restless mind the
• 1:30:33
  chill worsen with each step. She took towards the door and
• 1:30:37
  further away from the safety and warmth of her blankets.
• 1:30:41
  She pressed her empty hand against the cold metal door, and
• 1:30:45
  take a deep breath before, leading her eye to the peephole.
• 1:30:49
  And at first, she can only see Inky Black List, Blackness and
• 1:30:53
  somehow seeing to swirl in in in itself.
• 1:30:59
  When she blinked in Surprise the void melted away, she wished.
• 1:31:03
  It hadn't in its place there, stood, what she could only guess
• 1:31:07
  was once a man, the limbs were long and inhumanly awkward with
• 1:31:12
  bookie joints branchy golf into several arms.
• 1:31:17
  Not only like the branches of a tree.
• 1:31:19
  The creature was draped in a black suit somehow making the
• 1:31:23
  thing more nightmares to her. The icing on the proverbial
• 1:31:28
  cake. However, was what passed as the
• 1:31:31
  hellish things face. It was as though her mind
• 1:31:36
  blurred, the gas, the ghastly Visions to spare itself for the
• 1:31:41
  shock and horror She snubbed her, she showed herself away
• 1:31:46
  from the door with a hen still pressed against it.
• 1:31:50
  The scolding mug of coffee fell. The liquid burning her bare
• 1:31:53
  legs. As she fell backwards and
• 1:31:56
  crawled and try to crawl away from the door.
• 1:31:59
  She knew somehow that in her mind that her mind.
• 1:32:02
  God, hold on, let me read reread that she knew somehow that her
• 1:32:07
  mind hadn't been playing tricks on her.
• 1:32:10
  Or yeah, as you crowd walked away from the door.
• 1:32:14
  She was as tendrils as black as the void.
• 1:32:18
  She first saw a snake around through the cracks.
• 1:32:21
  Well, the girl was trapped. The girl was trapped between the
• 1:32:27
  instinctive, flee in the gut, feeling to not turn her back on
• 1:32:31
  the door. When the door jolted, the urge
• 1:32:35
  to flee overcame her and she slipped into the burning.
• 1:32:38
  She's looked into the burning liquid, as she tried to make it
• 1:32:42
  back to her room. She knew deep down that she was
• 1:32:45
  trapping herself in the corner but she had to get away from the
• 1:32:49
  door and she was self-aware. The girl was halfway down the
• 1:32:53
  hallway when she heard the / EB the previously locked doors.
• 1:32:58
  Sounds like when she heard a previously locked door Creeks,
• 1:33:03
  open she screamed and slipped into a wall creaking crackling
• 1:33:09
  cracking her chin on it. In stunning, her After that, it
• 1:33:16
  was only blackness. Nicole a warm.
• 1:33:21
  Oh it was a man. It's a it's a high-pitch meals,
• 1:33:25
  voice, whatever Nicole, a warm meal voice, snapped a woman out
• 1:33:30
  of her. Trance as she turned around, she
• 1:33:33
  was met by one of her sisters. Doctors She nodded not sure if
• 1:33:39
  she should say anything or even if she could find her voice.
• 1:33:44
  If she did set, if she did have something to say is that
• 1:33:48
  morning, she had gotten an urgent phone call from the
• 1:33:50
  hospital. Seeing her sister Lindsay was
• 1:33:53
  there before they had, even let her see her, the doctors had
• 1:33:57
  pulled her off to the side and insisted that he talked to her
• 1:34:00
  about what might have happened. Excuse me, burp phrases like
• 1:34:08
  self-inflicted and assault had been thrown around and Nicole
• 1:34:12
  felt her mind real. She still hadn't fully
• 1:34:15
  understood what had been what they had been saying until he's
• 1:34:20
  till she saw Lindsay was her own eyes.
• 1:34:23
  A little sister. Had a bandage wrapped around her
• 1:34:25
  head covering both of her ears as well as her eyes.
• 1:34:30
  They said it was to keep her. Now, definite years out
• 1:34:34
  definitely dead in Dedham deaded.
• 1:34:38
  Now dead now dead and eyes from drying out and to try to keep
• 1:34:43
  the infection out of the wounds Lindsay, made to her ears.
• 1:34:50
  The doctors had guess that either.
• 1:34:53
  She had someone else she or someone else had Jenna pencil
• 1:34:58
  into them to keep her off balance or to defend herself
• 1:35:02
  against something. There was a mix of first and
• 1:35:07
  second degree burns on her hands legs and feet from what was
• 1:35:12
  assumed to be the coffee. Her neighbors found slipping all
• 1:35:16
  over the entry of her apartment as Nicole walked into her
• 1:35:20
  sister's bedroom. Room.
• 1:35:21
  Her sisters hospital room bed. Yes, her bedroom into her sister
• 1:35:27
  who's hospital room. The first time.
• 1:35:31
  She thought she had spied the silhouette of a man in the
• 1:35:33
  window. That she knew was impossible.
• 1:35:38
  Her sister's room was on the third story of the hospital.
• 1:35:43
  The end credit anonymous. That's the original story.
• 1:35:48
  That's not it's not an original story but it's the story that's
• 1:35:51
  on Creepypasta.com. What was that?
• 1:35:54
  The first one? It's the one that's on here
• 1:35:56
  because see I've ever actually read a creepypasta about
• 1:36:00
  Slenderman. Oh, is that who I'm talking
• 1:36:02
  about? Oh my god.
• 1:36:03
  I've never actually read what about him.
• 1:36:05
  I just saw the pictures of, you know, long limb, man in the
• 1:36:09
  woods with children, the very good photo shops that look like,
• 1:36:13
  you know, old-timey antique kids.
• 1:36:15
  Yes. Now II have to say this because
• 1:36:21
  of what you talked about. At first, your story in that my
• 1:36:25
  stories they have something in common.
• 1:36:27
  What's that children? Oh yeah.
• 1:36:30
  That is true. Yeah.
• 1:36:34
  So what's so interesting because I talked about the Wisconsin
• 1:36:38
  Slenderman case on. Yeah I know Tick-Tock couple
• 1:36:41
  weeks ago I know. I know, I know.
• 1:36:44
  So I'm not sure if anybody could tell before For we're Italy
• 1:36:49
  spoil it. But yes, I am talking about the
• 1:36:52
  Slenderman. I'm sure everybody could hear
• 1:36:56
  that. Yes.
• 1:36:58
  I'm pretty sure you can guess. Yeah, but story now the sender
• 1:37:01
  man is a fictitious. Bill character free to buy
• 1:37:05
  something in a sultan. I don't know how it's out of
• 1:37:09
  date. Is something awful form, a
• 1:37:12
  function of something awful for him.
• 1:37:13
  Like I'm gonna I'm trying to say like a something awful Forum
• 1:37:16
  user but I don't know if it sounds better like whatever.
• 1:37:20
  But yes, a forum user from the soffit something awful?
• 1:37:23
  His name was oh I did not look. Hey, this is a theme Me, I don't
• 1:37:28
  look up names. His name's Eric.
• 1:37:36
  Kung. Nope. 91 do it is, are keg.
• 1:37:41
  That's that's that's all you got buddy.
• 1:37:42
  I'm sorry. And that was, this was posted by
• 1:37:46
  him and 2009. The thread that this was
• 1:37:51
  supposed to. Then there's a Photoshop
• 1:37:53
  contests, right, right. So one where users were
• 1:37:57
  challenged to make a paranormal image?
• 1:38:00
  So Eric made to black and white photos with groups of children
• 1:38:04
  and added a tall thin Spectral figure wearing a black suit.
• 1:38:08
  Now, these two photos had captions.
• 1:38:10
  Of course, I'll read one of them to you and I have that saved.
• 1:38:16
  My father had to call it. Well, I love that.
• 1:38:18
  The the pastas version though that like it's not that his face
• 1:38:21
  is actually blurred. Yeah, it's that your mind is
• 1:38:24
  trying to Shield you. From what you say, I never
• 1:38:27
  thought of that way. I really thought like he was
• 1:38:29
  just walking around with blurryface like yeah, he can't
• 1:38:32
  see me. So this is one of the captions.
• 1:38:36
  And so, one of to recover one of two recovered photos, from this
• 1:38:41
  starting City Library, Blaze notable for being taken today,
• 1:38:46
  which 14 children banished and for what is referred to as the
• 1:38:52
  Slender Man. Deformities cited as film
• 1:38:58
  defects by officials. So, if he looks weird in the
• 1:39:02
  picture, it's because of film defects.
• 1:39:07
  Do you know when that happened? When what happened?
• 1:39:12
  Oh, the caption is when the caption contest was doesn't want
• 1:39:16
  to thank ya 2001 because I remember Slenderman becoming a
• 1:39:20
  big deal because of Slenderman. The page is that like weird
• 1:39:23
  indie game where she found the game and as he got close to you,
• 1:39:27
  it made that loud sound. Yes, that really felt like that
• 1:39:31
  was the beginning of like the fervor will be going into some
• 1:39:35
  Slenderman sayings. But yeah.
• 1:39:40
  And he I guess court is potent this picture as being from 1986
• 1:39:48
  Mary Thomas missing since June thirteenth, nineteen six.
• 1:39:53
  So like this is this was for his photo contest.
• 1:39:56
  So he made a fake photo and, you know, a big fake backstory to
• 1:39:59
  it, that's fun. Yeah.
• 1:40:02
  Um, So after seeing these photos more posters started to expand
• 1:40:08
  on the character know adding more photos to it a little bit
• 1:40:12
  back story to it as well Inspirations for Slenderman are
• 1:40:18
  that that Insidious Beast by Zach person Parson thing it's I
• 1:40:26
  wrote an A in those icky Jack partisan it's in and Stephen
• 1:40:30
  King's The Mist. Also, Shadow People Inspire them
• 1:40:38
  and Mothman reports as well. Hmm.
• 1:40:44
  See. In the Mad Gasser of Mattoon is
• 1:40:49
  also an inspiration of Slender Man.
• 1:40:52
  That's so funny. Because you know what I thought
• 1:40:53
  of you know, Garry's Mod. Yes.
• 1:40:56
  You know how like the the blank body that body.
• 1:40:59
  That's like, it's just the kind of a Nutty pose.
• 1:41:01
  Yeah. And it's just, it's, it's the
• 1:41:03
  G-Man from Half-Life. Yes.
• 1:41:05
  That's what. I always think of when I think
• 1:41:06
  of Slenderman only just slightly longer limbs.
• 1:41:10
  Like when you're placing things, you use the G-Man tifos, Could
• 1:41:14
  you imagine that he's a G-Man? Who else is a G-Man that I've
• 1:41:18
  talked about before? It all is linked together, huh?
• 1:41:21
  I mean, you said this guy is based off of potentially the
• 1:41:24
  Mothman, Man, black or G, Ms. Ms. An interesting thing.
• 1:41:30
  Yes, my all your stories. Why is this like expanded
• 1:41:34
  universe situation happening over here?
• 1:41:36
  Marvel is go. Oh goodness, that creepy
• 1:41:39
  Universe. Yes.
• 1:41:40
  Marvel creepy universe. So Sundar man soon viral and
• 1:41:46
  soon started to appear on scary ons or he's known as
• 1:41:51
  Creepypastas. Slender Man.
• 1:41:56
  This is the brief description of our slender buddy.
• 1:42:01
  Sunday, did you notice under man only wants a hug.
• 1:42:06
  He also wants to eat children, does he eat children?
• 1:42:09
  Oh, he does. Why did he go missing?
• 1:42:12
  Why I never find them? Because they're on his ballet.
• 1:42:14
  No, no that. Anyway this is a description of
• 1:42:17
  those things. So this inner man is a being, it
• 1:42:21
  looks like it's a male who is tall and has very long arms.
• 1:42:26
  He can sometimes have black tentacles that Sprout from his
• 1:42:29
  back. And he's always wearing a black
• 1:42:33
  suit similar to those worn by the Ximena in Black.
• 1:42:39
  He is, of course, Very Thin, you know, based off of his name.
• 1:42:43
  Slenderman pardon me. I have to take a drink.
• 1:42:46
  My lips are parched and I don't want to sound like I'm chopping
• 1:42:50
  away. Hmm, he could stretch his arms
• 1:42:57
  and legs and his torso. And his face or lack thereof, a
• 1:43:04
  face is pale. So if you run into this guy,
• 1:43:08
  you're in bed for a bad time. Just letting you know.
• 1:43:13
  Sundar man has been known to mainly Target children.
• 1:43:17
  No one knows what he does with his victims since no bodies were
• 1:43:21
  ever found and he can also be found and woods or Forest.
• 1:43:28
  So maybe a more is where you will find us under me.
• 1:43:35
  So send me as not only appeared in Creepypastas like Brittany
• 1:43:41
  said, so there is there are. Oh my god.
• 1:43:44
  Well, that was the first one. I remember.
• 1:43:46
  So the last pages, the last pages so there are games about
• 1:43:50
  Slenderman. There are men, those people made
• 1:43:52
  like a big they made Slenderman arrival, which was like a 3D
• 1:43:57
  version, not a. Yeah, because the first one was
• 1:43:59
  like a super low budget. They expanded it.
• 1:44:04
  That one was weird. At one point.
• 1:44:06
  You were running away from a non Slender Man.
• 1:44:09
  Monster a different mom excited like a warehouse.
• 1:44:12
  So it's peculiar not really my kind of game.
• 1:44:15
  They're here. They're different like sub
• 1:44:17
  squares are not my funeral sort of like just under main lost
• 1:44:20
  Pages game. No speaker and sounds all over
• 1:44:29
  the apartment. But if you've watched YouTube
• 1:44:35
  ever in your life and you looked up Slenderman, you've probably
• 1:44:40
  come across come across the Marble Hornets.
• 1:44:44
  Web series. Have you?
• 1:44:46
  You've not heard a warmer you've not heard of Marble Hornets.
• 1:44:49
  Okay. I'm not going to go that deep
• 1:44:51
  into it. So they made videos about this
• 1:44:55
  guy. Some, of course.
• 1:44:57
  So if you haven't come across the Majesty, don't remember the
• 1:45:00
  name of the channel. Yeah, so if you haven't heard of
• 1:45:04
  Marble Hornets, YouTube web series about Sunder man.
• 1:45:08
  A couple. I guess I want to say they're
• 1:45:10
  college-aged kids at the beginning of the series, they
• 1:45:17
  the ones one of the kids, one of the guys, he goes back to look
• 1:45:21
  at a short movie that they had made, it's called Marble Hornets
• 1:45:27
  and they wondering he's wondering what had happened to
• 1:45:30
  it. Not being finished and stuff.
• 1:45:32
  And then this leads to him like noticing this person that would
• 1:45:38
  appear in the series of films that they made.
• 1:45:42
  And this is the Slender Man and the Slenderman.
• 1:45:48
  So they more or Hornets what they did.
• 1:45:52
  I mean, like, okay, I'm just gonna throw this out there, you
• 1:45:54
  know, it's funny. You just it's been in my head
• 1:45:57
  for since you started talking about this boy in a band, did a
• 1:46:02
  Song called hello monster. And one of the monsters they're
• 1:46:05
  talking to is Slender Man and markiplier does the voice part
• 1:46:10
  of that part? Really?
• 1:46:12
  What Slenderman to be my friend? Or man, we can take those.
• 1:46:17
  We can take a road trip and a Slender Man, and I just have
• 1:46:20
  been that part has been going through my head since you
• 1:46:23
  started talking he does such a good voice for, he's not a
• 1:46:27
  singer but oh my God. Like I'm like, oh goodness,
• 1:46:30
  listen, I love. Of any sort of like game music.
• 1:46:34
  So there's so many like horror game songs I have in my head and
• 1:46:37
  that was of course based off of that.
• 1:46:39
  Yes both kind of hello monster know if you see me if you watch
• 1:46:42
  YouTube you know who Markiplier is and markimoo is the best.
• 1:46:49
  I love his voice. I love watching, might be
• 1:46:51
  unashamed Fanboys. Yes.
• 1:46:52
  Oh here I'll fan boy for his episode for everybody and great
• 1:46:57
  except for Marble Hornets. I mean their web series was a
• 1:47:00
  good website, maybe it was okay. It was just like a thing that
• 1:47:04
  some people made, like, a good, we call this like a fat, like a
• 1:47:09
  college movie, you know, sort of like a little movie that people
• 1:47:13
  met while they were in school or something.
• 1:47:14
  Like this is a long series. I forget how many episodes like
• 1:47:18
  we're in the series but it's a very long series.
• 1:47:20
  They it's funny. It kind of gives me a little bit
• 1:47:22
  of it Vibes. Yeah.
• 1:47:25
  Okay. Like they go back and heads.
• 1:47:27
  They are like, oh this thing happened when we were young and
• 1:47:30
  now we're looking at it as a dull.
• 1:47:31
  Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of what this
• 1:47:33
  is about. So two things that the Marble
• 1:47:38
  Hornets like introduced in their website.
• 1:47:41
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:47:42
  We're that Slender Man if you look at like him through like
• 1:47:48
  videos or something like that, he will start appearing to you.
• 1:47:51
  Okay? So the distance and another
• 1:47:54
  thing that Marble Hornets like kind of introduced to the Mythos
• 1:47:59
  of Slender Man were proxies I just wondered.
• 1:48:03
  Oh is that where those little girls?
• 1:48:06
  Got that idea from possibly? Okay.
• 1:48:08
  Well they never understood why they thought they could be
• 1:48:11
  proxies of the Slender Man. I'm like I don't remember that
• 1:48:14
  being a part of the game but I could just be a little bit too
• 1:48:18
  old at this point to like I mean they were what 12 and like 13.
• 1:48:21
  Yeah. So if you're no proxies are
• 1:48:25
  foxes. Are basically people who fall
• 1:48:27
  under someone's control like puppets.
• 1:48:30
  So they were young again. Talking about puppets, I know,
• 1:48:33
  right? Proxies proxies other Slenderman
• 1:48:37
  are basically being controlled by this under main.
• 1:48:40
  Now, why do I bring up proxies well britni kind of mentioned
• 1:48:43
  that already twice? Actually, if you're not picking
• 1:48:47
  up on The Vibes and trying to give to you, well on May 31st 30
• 1:48:52
  days before my birthday. Wait 30 days.
• 1:48:55
  After your birth certificate, he's after over?
• 1:48:57
  T. Yeah, birthday.
• 1:48:59
  When you do shush In 2014 in with Kusha.
• 1:49:06
  Yep. What Kasha.
• 1:49:08
  Yes. Because you always get yelled at
• 1:49:10
  because I called it. What Kesha?
• 1:49:11
  And everyone on the internet. Got mad at me for like a week.
• 1:49:15
  Oh my God. Yes I it's kosher.
• 1:49:17
  It is a Kesha. Yes, because show yes, two young
• 1:49:23
  girls. They would Laura's our friend
• 1:49:25
  into the woods where they would stabbed her 19 times.
• 1:49:30
  They thought that g though, He dragged herself out of the woods
• 1:49:34
  to the side of the road and flag somebody down.
• 1:49:36
  Yeah, that girl wanted to live so the girls are too young
• 1:49:40
  girls. It would be 12 years old.
• 1:49:42
  They're like 12 and 13. Yeah, they're really young.
• 1:49:44
  So they thought that if they sacrifice their friend, that
• 1:49:48
  they would become proxies of the Slender, Man.
• 1:49:51
  I'm not going to go too much into this, not too much more
• 1:49:54
  into this. There's a really good
• 1:49:56
  documentary that HBO did a couple of years ago.
• 1:49:58
  That goes into the two girls and the life and The lives.
• 1:50:02
  They led up to it and you know what?
• 1:50:05
  Really kind of brought them to it.
• 1:50:06
  Yeah. So if you like checking in on
• 1:50:09
  them, seeing how they're doing now and 2021, I think I heard
• 1:50:13
  like update of them like a while ago but I forget what I did.
• 1:50:16
  See, an article from the girl who was attacked and yeah, that
• 1:50:18
  too. She said that she's entering
• 1:50:20
  medicine because she really liked how she was treated in the
• 1:50:25
  hospital after when she was recovering.
• 1:50:27
  And she said that she was going to do something with her life
• 1:50:29
  involving Madison. There you go.
• 1:50:31
  And they were like What do you think about your two former
• 1:50:33
  friends? And she's like, I don't think
• 1:50:34
  about them. And I'm like, okay, girl.
• 1:50:36
  Yeah, you go. That's the right mentality.
• 1:50:39
  So, if you guys would like to know more about this story,
• 1:50:45
  there are documentaries about this and I don't know, check out
• 1:50:51
  Tick-Tock and Brittany has done a video about this.
• 1:50:54
  Yeah, it says, right of my children that kill series.
• 1:50:58
  Yes. Children that kill or try to
• 1:51:00
  kill ya. And that case at Particular.
• 1:51:02
  Yes. How's the discuss?
• 1:51:04
  Those kids in Alaska. Who randomly thought they were
• 1:51:06
  going to poison their friend and they didn't use there.
• 1:51:09
  Anything. That was poison.
• 1:51:11
  Yes, they just were weird. No, I've only seen two movies
• 1:51:18
  about the Slenderman. I don't think I've seen any
• 1:51:20
  movies about. Yeah, I forget.
• 1:51:23
  I think I watch one on HBO, and the other one was probably on
• 1:51:26
  Netflix, at one point like fictional style.
• 1:51:29
  Yeah, definitely the fictional movies about Sunday.
• 1:51:32
  Man one was basically a okay maybe that was like a no, no one
• 1:51:38
  was basically about the little girl.
• 1:51:41
  What Crush? Ya story and like it was just
• 1:51:45
  fictionalized. Okay.
• 1:51:46
  Oh, you know what I did hear about that.
• 1:51:49
  Yeah, I thought that was kind of important.
• 1:51:51
  Yeah. To make a story about I'm like
• 1:51:53
  this girls alone, it's only been a couple of years.
• 1:51:55
  Really, making a movie about this.
• 1:51:56
  Yeah, I vote. We can make a Slender Man movie.
• 1:51:58
  That's interesting. And not about you Hootie.
• 1:52:02
  Like preteen girls trying to kill their best friend.
• 1:52:04
  Like the first one is so it was not good.
• 1:52:08
  Are they ever know? Listen, I'd love a good d-rated
• 1:52:12
  horror flick. Like I wish like I think the
• 1:52:14
  second one I saw wasn't too bad that I could actually sit
• 1:52:17
  through and watch it. But other than that, like, I
• 1:52:20
  think someone else could do a better job at making a Slender
• 1:52:23
  Man movie. I feel like the fervor has
• 1:52:26
  really passed. Come on.
• 1:52:28
  He's like, this is classic though.
• 1:52:29
  He's a classic. I agree with you.
• 1:52:31
  He is a class. Cick.
• 1:52:33
  Yeah, Slenderman is like, he's basically everywhere, you know,
• 1:52:39
  at first, I think I've heard like series about.
• 1:52:42
  Have you ever played Minecraft? The Enderman Enderman does have
• 1:52:46
  the same kind of arms as Slender Man?
• 1:52:48
  And the name is very similar to and he teleports just like their
• 1:52:52
  Slender Man. Can tell or as well, only have
• 1:52:54
  you ever made an Enderman angry. Yes, he growls at you and it is
• 1:52:58
  very frightening. When you're just like listen I'm
• 1:53:01
  just The worst thing is, when you're like, you know what?
• 1:53:03
  I forgot to put up torches in my house.
• 1:53:07
  Yeah. And you wake up and there's an
• 1:53:08
  Enderman inside of your house, I need you to leave, buddy.
• 1:53:12
  I'm trying to live here. Yeah, you get too close to it
• 1:53:15
  and it just growls that you like just don't look at it gets mad
• 1:53:19
  when you stare at it and then it kills you.
• 1:53:21
  Yeah, they will, which is great, because then you just, you know,
• 1:53:24
  respawn in your house where it still is.
• 1:53:28
  So good luck to that, but I'm yes under man appears like A lot
• 1:53:32
  of places there have been cameos of him like, everywhere should
• 1:53:35
  look that up. Yeah, I like the reason why I
• 1:53:39
  said, like, there's a song about Slenderman.
• 1:53:42
  Well, there's a few songs about sun to me.
• 1:53:44
  I have one on my Spotify. It's a Dubstep Mix of sundry, be
• 1:53:48
  good, it's great. Oh, but like Animation
• 1:53:52
  Domination, there's a song about Slenderman.
• 1:53:55
  Okay? He only wants a hug that's all.
• 1:53:58
  So I'm really was a hug. Well, that's the fun part about
• 1:54:01
  that song. I was Talking about like, if the
• 1:54:03
  person talking to a Monster. Yeah.
• 1:54:05
  And they're like, I just want to be your friend.
• 1:54:06
  Let's go do something nice but the monster just wants to eat
• 1:54:08
  you. Yeah, lovely.
• 1:54:11
  Okay. So even though Slenderman's of
• 1:54:13
  fixed his Channel character, there are actually some real
• 1:54:18
  life historical references that That reference to something that
• 1:54:24
  looks like this guy. Oh, I'm interested.
• 1:54:26
  So A resilient. Okay.
• 1:54:29
  So I found this stuff on Creepypasta.com okay?
• 1:54:32
  So if you scroll down Slenderman you'll see all the stuff I'm
• 1:54:34
  talking about. So, Brazilian cave painting,
• 1:54:37
  depicts a creature with elongated limbs in multiple
• 1:54:41
  appendages. Leading a child by the hand.
• 1:54:45
  This dates back to as far as 19,000 9000 BC as was in
• 1:54:50
  nineteen thousand, BC did I definitely see ya because also a
• 1:54:56
  Romanian Fair. So that also tells the legend of
• 1:55:00
  the tall man, he story about a creature wearing Noble closing,
• 1:55:07
  we had snake-like arms and yeah now there's also an English tale
• 1:55:13
  about a tree man. Slim body tree branch like arms
• 1:55:19
  and he takes children so they all take kids.
• 1:55:23
  Yeah. Thats what you?
• 1:55:24
  But that's the thing about that story you write that was an
• 1:55:27
  older. A lady.
• 1:55:28
  This is true. This is weird.
• 1:55:30
  I was looking, he's appeared out of nowhere.
• 1:55:32
  Also that one brought up the tentacles.
• 1:55:35
  Yeah, I know. So some people think the
• 1:55:39
  sentiment doesn't have tentacles or tendrils, I just happen to
• 1:55:43
  very much like tentacles. So oh my goodness.
• 1:55:46
  Who am I gonna tell that? That's it.
• 1:55:48
  That's the next thing I'm going to do is make some tentacle
• 1:55:50
  earrings. Now the son of man isn't The my
• 1:55:58
  favorite Creepypastas, but it's one that's like good for a
• 1:56:01
  scare. It's got a long history for
• 1:56:04
  something that's only been like 10 years old like in the future.
• 1:56:09
  I swear like our children's children will hear fairy tales
• 1:56:12
  about the Slender, Man, and we should because, okay, when I was
• 1:56:18
  on the phone with you earlier, I was looking up.
• 1:56:22
  Oh yeah. You said your your kid almost
• 1:56:24
  spoiled at. Yeah.
• 1:56:25
  So, and And my kids are very tech savvy and they had been on
• 1:56:31
  YouTube quite often and they run into the Creepypastas one of my
• 1:56:35
  son. Technically.
• 1:56:38
  Yes. And then my daughter gets it
• 1:56:39
  from him. Also YouTube.
• 1:56:42
  Yeah, YouTube. So he knows all about Slenderman
• 1:56:46
  interests. He'll ask you.
• 1:56:47
  If you if you met him, if you meet him who asked you?
• 1:56:51
  Do you know about Slenderman? Oh dear.
• 1:56:53
  Do you know about scp-008? 90.
• 1:56:58
  He likes 089, he was about, he goes, he know, he likes like
• 1:57:02
  scary stuff, but he's asking my favorite SCP.
• 1:57:04
  But all right. Okay, it's not his.
• 1:57:06
  But I'm just bringing up one day.
• 1:57:08
  He would talk about or something like that.
• 1:57:10
  He likes to lizard one. I think the lizard that can't be
• 1:57:13
  killed. Yeah.
• 1:57:14
  Or I love that one. You like so shy guy, too?
• 1:57:16
  Oh, I don't like the shy guy and he likes talking about shy guy.
• 1:57:18
  He's like, you know about the shy guy, daddy.
• 1:57:20
  It was like yes, g9o s. Yes.
• 1:57:26
  Actually, one of my favorite scps is just the monkey the
• 1:57:30
  little because I just love that like the monkey reward.
• 1:57:32
  You like you have done a good prank if the monkey appears on
• 1:57:35
  your desk. This is true.
• 1:57:37
  Yes. Okay, yes.
• 1:57:38
  Yeah. Like, that was adorable.
• 1:57:40
  I'm like, you know that you did a good job the monkey approves.
• 1:57:43
  If he appears on your desk, you are the winner for the day of
• 1:57:46
  the prank war. My favorite SCP is, of course,
• 1:57:50
  the teddy bear that creates other little replica.
• 1:57:53
  Teddy bears of itself. Oh, I think I know you're
• 1:57:55
  talking about. And there's also the patchwork
• 1:57:57
  teddy bear. That's also really, really
• 1:57:59
  interesting. Because it can like make
• 1:58:02
  Patchwork of different organs that you're missing so you like
• 1:58:06
  oh I think I do remember that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:58:09
  Like one day I'll read about some scps on here, too.
• 1:58:12
  Because like, I really love to be an SCP day as we both discuss
• 1:58:18
  our favorite one. Who my God.
• 1:58:19
  Yes, SCP episode. Okay, so yes, yes, We're just
• 1:58:26
  going to do that one day now, you line.
• 1:58:29
  So the last and a half to just sit and listen to me, talk about
• 1:58:32
  the Ikea. I love the Ikea.
• 1:58:34
  One of those interesting is it's a really really great one.
• 1:58:38
  The last Creepy Pasta I'll be talking about is someone fairly
• 1:58:42
  new? No I'd say like a year or two I
• 1:58:45
  don't know. What year did you come out 2018?
• 1:58:47
  So Is a couple a few years old. So I've even used this one to
• 1:58:54
  scare my kids. Look, we were outside.
• 1:58:59
  They weren't listening. I don't care.
• 1:59:02
  Y'all can judge me. All you want?
• 1:59:03
  They don't listen. I say blank blank is coming.
• 1:59:06
  You don't you hear that blank blank is coming in?
• 1:59:09
  Like I'm like, yeah. Oh.
• 1:59:17
  So who who less care? My children was well, I scared
• 1:59:21
  and went siren head. You've not heard a siren head.
• 1:59:26
  Oh goodness. So yeah like there we we live
• 1:59:31
  near a fire department so whenever Sirens are going off I
• 1:59:37
  mean technically everybody does. Yeah.
• 1:59:40
  This is true but like some are horrible.
• 1:59:43
  No like right up like a couple of like a block away from like
• 1:59:46
  fire department but so like the the you know Summers would go
• 1:59:50
  off and like you guys hear that siren head anyway?
• 1:59:54
  Like yeah, you better listen to me.
• 1:59:55
  He's all come and get you guys. You'd like to taking care of
• 1:59:57
  your kids. Oh my goodness, shush.
• 2:00:03
  Oh my God. All right.
• 2:00:05
  So I chose this one because well I'm sorry has an interesting
• 2:00:09
  creature. So siren, head is the creation
• 2:00:13
  of an artist named Trevor Henderson.
• 2:00:17
  He's a Canadian artist. Is this another one of those
• 2:00:20
  weird paintings? Okay, it is a painting.
• 2:00:23
  He does. A lot of creepy artwork that one
• 2:00:27
  painting was horrendous. Yeah, I know.
• 2:00:29
  But like, check this guy's work out, like, seriously, check it
• 2:00:32
  out because like, anybody listen to the sound of my voice, go to
• 2:00:37
  his website, Trevor Henderson, Trevor Henderson.com, and you'll
• 2:00:43
  see all the creepy, our work on it.
• 2:00:45
  And so fantastic. And I am advertising for this
• 2:00:48
  guy as well because I don't care.
• 2:00:51
  Italy, Oh because his work is really great.
• 2:00:59
  So siren heads the creature that stands about 30 to 40 meters
• 2:01:04
  tall, that's about 98 meet 98 feet to 130 feet tall.
• 2:01:11
  So he's big, he has no muscle mass, no, no fat on his body
• 2:01:19
  he's a skeletal mummy. Looking type of Your is body,
• 2:01:25
  actually? Reminds me of if you've ever
• 2:01:27
  played The Legend of Zelda, the redeads in Legend, is own.
• 2:01:32
  Allows our holler bodies are mummified looking things.
• 2:01:38
  And So based off of its name, what do you think's?
• 2:01:41
  Top of his head? He is not one, but two Sirens,
• 2:01:47
  two twin Sirens that are part of his head with teeth.
• 2:01:51
  So sorry, he is able to mimic. Various sounds from static to
• 2:01:57
  human voices and everything in between there have been multiple
• 2:02:02
  Creepypastas based around siren head also multiple games about
• 2:02:07
  siren. Head.
• 2:02:10
  And some people may think that he's an SCP but sorry head is
• 2:02:16
  not an SCP, he's not real. He is it fictional Artist
• 2:02:22
  drawing / Creepypasta nowadays, because like, just like,
• 2:02:26
  Slenderman people saw a picture and they create a story behind
• 2:02:30
  it. Gotcha.
• 2:02:33
  So there are also some awesome short films about cyber head.
• 2:02:37
  I just watch when I was researching this one it was like
• 2:02:41
  a five minute video about it and basically this guy he was riding
• 2:02:48
  out in the countryside and on his motorcycle he gets a flat
• 2:02:51
  tire and he hears somebody like in the woods calling like hey
• 2:02:58
  and he's looking around and then all of a sudden he hears a
• 2:03:01
  tornado sound going off the siren a tornado siren.
• 2:03:06
  Yeah and all of a sudden he ceases big giant gigantic.
• 2:03:14
  Emaciated siren, headed, monster standing behind him, and it
• 2:03:20
  eventually, eats them bummer. But yeah.
• 2:03:24
  So siren head. It's a mimic type monster.
• 2:03:30
  It's a mimic like in D&D sort of?
• 2:03:32
  Yes, it's like it. Mimic it.
• 2:03:34
  Mimics like gesturing like that, but it mimics trees if it's, in
• 2:03:38
  the woods. So that's where it mainly stays
• 2:03:41
  at. So it's as tall as a tree.
• 2:03:43
  It looks like Tree. If you're not really, if you
• 2:03:45
  really can't see it, especially at night, But yeah, it's a mimic
• 2:03:52
  and it can mimic voice is people that, you know, people that I
• 2:03:57
  would know, like someone that we wouldn't know and just calling
• 2:04:00
  out for help or something like that, right?
• 2:04:02
  Or just like radium sequence. He's the sequence is God, can
• 2:04:06
  talk. Apparently, there are also
• 2:04:12
  different variants of siren head.
• 2:04:15
  Okay. That were made.
• 2:04:17
  The I haven't read about apparently there's a blood siren
• 2:04:21
  head and Ice siren head. Cool.
• 2:04:24
  Yeah. I don't know about those though.
• 2:04:29
  He were honest. What I thought this looked like
• 2:04:32
  in my head, not at all what this looks like in picture.
• 2:04:35
  No, this is much worse. Yeah.
• 2:04:39
  It is. Imagine running into him in the
• 2:04:42
  woods. We can't be out here siren going
• 2:04:45
  off. There's no Sirens around here.
• 2:04:47
  What the hell's going on? Honestly, this is it's like
• 2:04:50
  sinewy, like muscle. Yes.
• 2:04:53
  And there's a mouth and it's siren ear.
• 2:04:58
  Oh, it's horrible. Oh, so yeah.
• 2:05:01
  I don't know what the purpose of siren head is, like, his
• 2:05:08
  Creepypasta missiles. He's basically just out there
• 2:05:12
  just murdering people. So he murders and kills people
• 2:05:20
  in each film. I mean, of course you murder and
• 2:05:22
  kill people because you dude saying this, is he bugging me.
• 2:05:24
  Anyway, humor zingy. Some so there are two different
• 2:05:28
  sound clips that exists of his siren that many think that might
• 2:05:32
  be a siren head. One recorded sound is of a
• 2:05:38
  tornado siren in Chicago, in 2010.
• 2:05:42
  I don't know if you've seen this video, I have and what it is.
• 2:05:45
  Is I actually know the science behind it but I won't ruin it.
• 2:05:48
  No, please do because after I tell you so it's apparently it
• 2:05:52
  started up at midnight and the source could not be found the
• 2:05:56
  where it was coming from. The one I heard was it was like
• 2:06:00
  in a big city and it sounds weird.
• 2:06:02
  It doesn't sound like a dude. Yeah.
• 2:06:05
  It's okay. Is that it?
• 2:06:10
  You have it. Can we play it?
• 2:06:11
  Yeah, I think it's the sound. I think it is because I learned
• 2:06:13
  about what that is. Let me see if I can find it.
• 2:06:30
  Okay. Goodness.
• 2:06:45
  Is it this one? Hold on.
• 2:06:48
  I might actually be going up for you before you get to it because
• 2:06:51
  I have it ready? Hold on.
• 2:06:58
  Yep, this is the one. So so when I first heard this it
• 2:07:04
  was that it was considered to be a broken siren.
• 2:07:08
  So yeah that's why I read too at first, it's not broken actually,
• 2:07:12
  it's made to do that because the sound has to bounce off of
• 2:07:15
  different buildings. Whereas when we normally hear a
• 2:07:18
  tornado siren because when do we normally hear tornadoes flat
• 2:07:22
  lamb? Yeah, Kansas flat area.
• 2:07:25
  So you just hear the siren going, but it sounds different
• 2:07:28
  as it's bouncing off of very tall buildings who have in
• 2:07:30
  Chicago. That's what people explained it
• 2:07:33
  to that, but I love you guys. People are like, nope, that's a
• 2:07:35
  Monster. Yeah, That's What monster is big
• 2:07:38
  as some of the buildings in Chicago.
• 2:07:41
  So, but yeah, that's what they said.
• 2:07:42
  It's not actually a and people like why is this sounds so
• 2:07:46
  awful? And it doesn't sound like any
• 2:07:48
  other siren in the world. Yeah, it has to be broken or
• 2:07:52
  Monster one of the two. So I love my credit when I say,
• 2:07:55
  like, when you search it, like why did the tornado sirens in
• 2:07:58
  Chicago sound? Terrifying, top comment to scare
• 2:08:01
  away the tornadoes. Duh, duh of the internet.
• 2:08:05
  All right, y'all are the best. Alright, so the second sound
• 2:08:09
  sounds just like the first First one, it was recorded in 2018.
• 2:08:16
  So eight years later after the went to Chicago.
• 2:08:19
  It's in where Austria and this sound was much prefer the idea
• 2:08:25
  that this thing was in Austria. So yes, let's go with that.
• 2:08:28
  I think she's not in Chicago, it's obviously in Austria.
• 2:08:31
  So this thing was recorded at 3:30 a.m. they're close to 3:30
• 2:08:36
  a.m. the sound came from the forest.
• 2:08:42
  When investigate it, there was an empty tent found two.
• 2:08:47
  Wallets with everything in them and I found the IDS of these two
• 2:08:52
  people, and they are reported missing and since then, oh, so
• 2:08:56
  yeah, cool. So today the sound for that one.
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  It's the same sound, it's the same sound, it sounded the same,
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  no way. It sounds the same and like I
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  said, it came from a forest and this was like a force on the
• 2:09:09
  edge of the Town, huh? That's weird.
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  Weird. But yeah, apparently another
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  reason why they said they think the Chicago siren is made to
• 2:09:17
  sound like that bizarre, is because of what they call, like
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  sensory adaptation, which is you live in a big city.
• 2:09:24
  And this is true because I lived in Philadelphia for quite some
• 2:09:27
  time, almost 10 years. You get used to the sounds.
• 2:09:30
  It's like one of those things of, like, I wasn't used to the
• 2:09:32
  sounds of this building until we needed silence.
• 2:09:35
  That makes sense, right? So that makes it almost
• 2:09:37
  impossible for you ignore this siren because it sounds so
• 2:09:40
  freaking weird. Exactly.
• 2:09:42
  Because you're used to To, you know, normal Sirens, you're used
• 2:09:45
  to fire trucks, all times of the night, um, tease cop cars
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  because you live in a big city. So this is a sound.
• 2:09:52
  You cannot ignore. But then that's interesting if
• 2:09:55
  it's similar because the question is, did you hear this
• 2:09:58
  somewhere else? Yeah.
• 2:09:59
  And decide to use it and Chicago.
• 2:10:01
  Yeah. So also a fun fact about siren
• 2:10:05
  head that a group of siren head or quasi static.
• 2:10:08
  That's ridiculous. But that is all I have for
• 2:10:15
  Creepypastas today. There's a good time.
• 2:10:18
  That was super interesting. Yeah, I might want to cover
• 2:10:20
  creme fossils again. I don't know.
• 2:10:22
  Maybe I'll get somebody to I owe.
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  You know what? If you guys want sending some
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  whole process has been a lot of fun, like, but it's time to say,
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  slash foxy trainer. Yeah, I'm finishing up little
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  And after that I'll be finishing up Yuppie cycle and was you
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  happy cycle the one with the the job?
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  Yeah. I was weird.
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  Yeah, cool. Cool.
• 2:13:19
  Kind of game after that, I don't know.
• 2:13:20
  I'll probably affect pick another scary game to play and
• 2:13:23
  be scared because as I hate myself, that's all right.
• 2:13:29
  Oh, that's good. More and more streaming.
• 2:13:32
  Yes, consistently stream at a certain time every time and
• 2:13:36
  you'll start to get people, you know, Mom.
• 2:13:38
  I'm you know, I'm trying. Yeah.
• 2:13:41
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