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Brain, Body + Being with Mallorie Buoy · The Trauma Therapist

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Speaker 1: a show about the incredible people dedicated to helping those
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Speaker 1: who experienced trauma. My name is Got macpherson, and my
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Speaker 1: each of us to help those around us. You betty
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Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? Okay? So five or three, two and one,
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Speaker 1: our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to
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Speaker 1: have as my kids today. Mallory boy, Mallory, welcome.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: It's so good to be here.
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Speaker 1: Awesome. So, for the past seventeen years, Mallory has studied psychology, education, yoga,
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Speaker 1: mysticism and philosophy, and moving education, amongst other subjects. She
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Speaker 1: spent more than one thousand hours studying in the Himalayas
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Speaker 1: and many more in the study of quantum and the
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Speaker 1: direct application of this knowledge within her daily life. Yet
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Speaker 1: it took a journey of single and adoptive parenting alongside
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Speaker 1: much experience of and with trauma that catalyzed her deep
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Speaker 1: desire to put all facets of her knowledge and experience
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Speaker 1: together to offer detailed and informed healing practices. She says,
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Speaker 1: no more roadblocks because of misguided advice and gas lighty spiritualisms. Mallori,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Yeah awesome.
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Speaker 1: So before we get going, share with the listeners where
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Speaker 1: you're from originally and where you are currently.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I am in I'm from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada,
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Speaker 2: so that is three dy six territory, and right now
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Speaker 2: talking to you, I'm in Vancouver. My adopted kiddo's birth
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Speaker 2: mom lives here, so I bring her to see her
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Speaker 2: several times a year.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Very cool. All right, so where do we start. Let
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Speaker 1: me start by first saying, so you had asked how
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Speaker 1: we came together, and I found you. Discovered you for
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Speaker 1: myself through my own search for looking for gats sometimes
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Speaker 1: and I was struck by your website. And one of
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Speaker 1: the things you have on your website is you say
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Speaker 1: I want you to live the life you most deeply desire,
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Speaker 1: and that really speaks with me. But I offer that
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Speaker 1: as an introduction as a segue into asking you how
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Speaker 1: did all this start for you? I mean, your bio
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Speaker 1: is very interesting, it sounds like so many things. But
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Speaker 1: how did this begin for you?
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Speaker 2: You know how I would answer that now with the
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Speaker 2: gift of hindsight is obviously a little bit different than
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Speaker 2: maybe like it started when I was twenty maybe, but
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Speaker 2: with this gift of hindsight, I would say it started
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Speaker 2: when I was really young, Like I had a lot
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Speaker 2: of chronic illness and neurodivergency, and I think that that
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Speaker 2: experience of just really deeply longing for a sense of
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Speaker 2: stability and security within my own body catalyzed a search
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Speaker 2: for that when I was quite young, both in what
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Speaker 2: I was studying academically, but.
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Speaker 3: Then in my.
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Speaker 2: Interest and draw towards movement and mysticism. And then how
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Speaker 2: I got to where I am now was very much
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Speaker 2: through that journey. Like so, I studied psychology and was
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Speaker 2: a Waldorf school teacher for a long time, and then
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Speaker 2: definitely self identify as a very curious mystic understanding what
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Speaker 2: this reality that we exist in is really all about.
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Speaker 2: But then it all came together when I became an
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Speaker 2: adoptive parent, so my foster sister when I was growing up,
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Speaker 2: I was eleven and she was three, were very very close,
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Speaker 2: and she moved in with me when she was twenty.
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Speaker 1: And foster sister.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Forgive me, so that means that she was fostered.
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Speaker 3: My family was very close.
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Speaker 2: No, yeah, okay, good clarification. My family was My mom
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Speaker 2: was her teacher in preschool, and my family became very
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Speaker 2: close to her family and then became her foster family.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then when she was twenty, she moved in with
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Speaker 2: me and I became her legal guardian, an adoptive parent.
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Speaker 2: She's still very close to her birth mom, so we
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Speaker 2: just I call her my sister. But and then her friend,
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Speaker 2: who I had known for about five years at the time,
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Speaker 2: became homeless and he moved in with us as well,
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Speaker 2: and I became his adopt parents. So it was through
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Speaker 2: they're both adults, and it was through that journey of
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Speaker 2: really understanding they both experienced substance use disorder and the
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Speaker 2: generational trauma they're both indigenous, and just being in that
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Speaker 2: our family unit, a lot of my how I understood
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Speaker 2: the world and my personal research just really took on
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Speaker 2: that lens of how to support them and yeah, be
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Speaker 2: together as a family, how to support them and thriving,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of that was trauma work and trauma study.
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Speaker 2: So I became very interested in and skillful at working
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Speaker 2: with trauma, both in my own body and with them,
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Speaker 2: and became a clinical somatic educator and therapist.
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Speaker 1: So going back to your own experience, you said there
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Speaker 1: was a lot going on, and there was an using hindsight.
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Speaker 1: You said there was even from a very early age,
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Speaker 1: there was insight into this healing part.
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Speaker 4: What were you.
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Speaker 1: Trying to heal? Were you even aware of that? What
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Speaker 1: were you doing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good question because for so long,
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Speaker 2: and I mean this, if anyone has done somatic therapy
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Speaker 2: or is a sematic therapist, you'll know that in opening
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Speaker 2: the nervous system, it starts to give you all of
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Speaker 2: this insight of how you felt at such a young age.
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Speaker 2: It's not something that we're necessarily so cognitively aware of
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Speaker 2: or consciously aware of until we experience something else.
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
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Speaker 2: So I I this is another aspect that's really catalyzed
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Speaker 2: my journey. But four years ago I was given an
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Speaker 2: MS diagnosis, and so the way that my healing trauma
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Speaker 2: as well as really deeply understanding function all medicine has
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Speaker 2: really overlapped. And it's through both of those experiences that
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Speaker 2: I realized that I actually experienced, Yeah, just a lot
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Speaker 2: of deep instability within my body and a lot of
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Speaker 2: I would call it depression, but it is a felt
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Speaker 2: sense of depression that comes from when your body isn't well.
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Speaker 2: So I was on antibiotics a lot when I was
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Speaker 2: a child, which was common in the eighties and early nineties,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, different things that I can deeply understand that
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Speaker 2: even as a child, I felt a lot of yeah,
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Speaker 2: sadness and difficulty of just being in the body. And
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Speaker 2: so I think that that experience, amongst others, was like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: how do I live in my body? Well, what does
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Speaker 2: it mean to experience joy? What does it mean to
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Speaker 2: experience connection, stability, a sense of like the thread or
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Speaker 2: a baseline of trust in myself and trust in life.
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Speaker 2: And a big part of that, of course, you know,
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Speaker 2: we talk about trauma here and a big part of
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Speaker 2: that is supporting healing the nervous system, and in my experience,
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Speaker 2: a big part of that was understanding that when the
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Speaker 2: body is healthy and operating well, there is an innate,
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Speaker 2: an emergent kind of sense of of ease and wellness
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Speaker 2: that I didn't experience for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: So, and you mentioned the adoptive experience, how did that
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Speaker 1: analyze everything? We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was quite the journey.
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Speaker 5: I'm always a little like both of my kiddos have
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Speaker 5: given me permission to speak about their lives because they
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Speaker 5: know that it's really valuable for people too, and and
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Speaker 5: feels like reclamation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, an experience of reclamation for them.
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Speaker 3: But they are both.
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Speaker 2: Indigenous, they grew up in foster care, and both of
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Speaker 2: their parents and their lineage was a part of the
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Speaker 2: residential school also the residential prison system sometimes it's called
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Speaker 2: and the sixties scoop, and that just really deeply lives
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Speaker 2: in their experience. So they have feedle alcohol spectrum disorder
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Speaker 2: and substance use disorder and just a lot of challenges
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Speaker 2: and schizophrenia, which also I think can be looked at
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Speaker 2: quite differently. I always tell Janie that if this were
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Speaker 2: a few centuries ago, she would probably be the mystic
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Speaker 2: and the healer in her in her community. But that
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Speaker 2: was an undertaking as well, and it was really catalyzed
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Speaker 2: by love and just really it was not an option
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Speaker 2: for them to be houseless, which would have happened. And
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Speaker 2: so in that journey, which was about seven years long,
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Speaker 2: like I'm still really involved in their lives, but they
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Speaker 2: both now live independently. But in that seven year journey,
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Speaker 2: it was just really interwoven with substance use and harm
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Speaker 2: reduction and being with two people that just have a
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Speaker 2: very a very reasonable need to just express the pain
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Speaker 2: that they that they feel, and ME being kind of
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Speaker 2: the support system in that. And I was, you know,
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Speaker 2: in my young thirties and just going Okay, how do
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Speaker 2: I do this? And it just took a lot of research.
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Speaker 2: But one thing that it really supported in my journey
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Speaker 2: is like I was a part of the spiritual community,
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Speaker 2: and I was always deeply inquisitive and always like skeptical.
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Speaker 2: I definitely have a skeptical mind, and so there was
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Speaker 2: I was curious and skeptical and being in their lives
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Speaker 2: and creating this kind of unique family unit really cipher
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Speaker 2: like siphoned out anything that felt extraneous, Like if this
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Speaker 2: isn't applicable in every circumstance.
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Speaker 3: Then it doesn't hold.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have the substance that I need in this
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Speaker 2: that I that I can put trust in it, and
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Speaker 2: it just got right to the heart of what I
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Speaker 2: believe to be true. And I really dove a lot
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Speaker 2: more deeply into the science behind.
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Speaker 3: A lot of the spiritual beliefs that I had, and.
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Speaker 2: Gave me the confidence to now teach mysticism in the
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Speaker 2: way that I do because I I want, I I'm
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Speaker 2: so clear to not just say things that don't make sense,
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Speaker 2: like I want to get to the whatever questions people have,
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Speaker 2: like how do how does it apply in this context?
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Speaker 2: In this context, like I've gone there, I've I've asked
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Speaker 2: those questions. So it really I think clarified a lot
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Speaker 2: of the work that I do as well.
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Speaker 1: So the seven year experience was your experience trying to
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Speaker 1: adopt these two individuals.
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Speaker 2: Or no, that's they lived with me for seven years, okay.
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Speaker 2: And the adoption process was easy because they're adults. The
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Speaker 2: legal guardianship, because they have disability, that was a part
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Speaker 2: of their journey, and that was a bit more of
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Speaker 2: a process because you know, they need to make sure
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Speaker 2: that there's no one taking advantage of anyone else, So
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Speaker 2: that was a little bit more of a legal process.
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Speaker 2: But the adoption process was easier because they are adults
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Speaker 2: and it was by choice to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that actually that clarification, So talk to us about this.
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Speaker 1: You get to this point where you're like, Okay, I
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Speaker 1: want to start working with people healing people. Talk to
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Speaker 1: us about that. How did that evolve for you?
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Speaker 2: I think I've had that interest for a very long time.
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Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, my first degree was in psychology, so really,
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Speaker 2: you know, curious about that. Then I went on to
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Speaker 2: teach children for seven years. I was a public school
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Speaker 2: and moder school teacher, and I think that that was
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Speaker 2: my first, yeah, kind of impulse to really understand that
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Speaker 2: being with people and supporting them, whether their children or adults,
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Speaker 2: to just like really feel comfortable and their authentic self
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Speaker 2: was really felt in that experience.
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Speaker 3: And then I went on to complete.
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Speaker 2: Some coursework, most of the coursework, you know, all of it,
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Speaker 2: and a master's in counting psychology, and then experience a
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Speaker 2: really profound loss and so didn't complete that practicum, but
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Speaker 2: I was it was just living in me to work
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Speaker 2: in that way. During that time, I worked primarily with
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Speaker 2: women in healing a lot of trauma, developmental ial trauma,
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Speaker 2: and sexual trauma.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, then being.
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Speaker 2: With the family unit that I was creating just kind of. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it just really refined all of those experiences. And finding
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Speaker 2: sematics was a big part of that because I was
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Speaker 2: really deeply interested in education and psychology and healing and spirituality,
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Speaker 2: but again because of my skeptical mind, I was just
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Speaker 2: like constantly searching a little bit, and sematics is, in
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Speaker 2: my experience and work and opinion, is something that can
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Speaker 2: hold all of that. It's something that really offers a
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Speaker 2: unique new paradigm way of being in the body and
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Speaker 2: being in the world. And so when I found sematics
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Speaker 2: for myself, my family and then became a Somatic Experience
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Speaker 2: practitioner and cse I, the work that I was envisioning
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Speaker 2: just became really clear and there was a lot more
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Speaker 2: momentum in that because you can work one on one
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Speaker 2: in supporting trauma, but I also really offer people educational
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Speaker 2: experiences to really understand their life, their physiology, like how
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Speaker 2: all human systems in their own kind of unique individual
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Speaker 2: system can work together.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, your experiences, I mean, you obviously and so
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Speaker 4: passionately draw from these incredible and intense experiences, like all
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Speaker 4: these strands of experiences of your life.
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Speaker 1: It feels like you're this vessel except maybe we all are.
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Speaker 1: But it just seems so clear that these things, these
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Speaker 1: experiences are coming through you to now help these other people.
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Speaker 1: It's very intense and it's very clear from the things
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Speaker 1: you're saying. So when you're working with people, what is
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Speaker 1: it about? What are you trying to do? Because on
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Speaker 1: your we again going back to that thing on your website,
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Speaker 1: you want to help people like find their live their life.
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Speaker 1: Why is that important? How do you do that?
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Speaker 3: Ah, that's a good question and gave me goosebumps.
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Speaker 2: Why would say, there's many layers and one as a
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Speaker 2: sematic therapist, it's really important to just offer that the
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Speaker 2: nervous system can heal and the depth and capacity and
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Speaker 2: perception of life in a non chronically activated nervous system.
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Speaker 2: So when a healed nervous system is so profoundly different.
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Speaker 2: And that's an experience that I just really want to
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Speaker 2: hold for people. And Yeah, honestly, as I share that,
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Speaker 2: like all of these kind of experiences of the last
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Speaker 2: many years of folks who have expressed that, including myself,
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Speaker 2: it just kind of came through and that's just such
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Speaker 2: a profound reality for a lot of the work that
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you to repeat that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Just one of the main tenants as a somatic therapist
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Speaker 2: is to hold for all of one's clients that the
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Speaker 2: nervous system can heal and the system that we exist
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Speaker 2: in supports and creates chronically activated nervous systems, So nervous
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Speaker 2: systems that are chronically in fight, fight, freeze, fawn, and
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Speaker 2: shifting that through slow and intentional somatic work really changes
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Speaker 2: how we experience being in the body and really changes
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Speaker 2: how we perceive the world being in the world, and
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Speaker 2: it can support over time and experience of an internal
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Speaker 2: locus of control, so moving through the world from within
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Speaker 2: myself as opposed to an external which is like seeking
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Speaker 2: so many different things to validate like yeah, I'm here,
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Speaker 2: this is who I am, and that shift is night
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Speaker 2: and day, like it's a profoundly different way of living
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Speaker 2: this life. And so that's one of the main aspects
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Speaker 2: of what I do. But there's a deeper impulse and
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Speaker 2: that is so in my both through experiencing like the
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Speaker 2: family life that I have, like my Jane is like
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Speaker 2: my closest human in this world to me, and there's
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Speaker 2: been a lot of intensity around potential loss, you know,
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Speaker 2: with substance use and risk behavior, and so I was
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Speaker 2: very consistently for seven years like approaching this possibility of
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Speaker 2: loss and also, as you know, missing and murdered Indigenous
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Speaker 2: women is really a risk, especially in the context that
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Speaker 2: that support her experience and being in this earth. She
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Speaker 2: really feels community living on the streets. But then there's
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Speaker 2: risk to that. And so in that risk and that
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Speaker 2: reality of potentially losing someone you love very deeply, I
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Speaker 2: was consistently approaching the is what does physics tell us
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Speaker 2: about what reality is? What have mystics throughout time and
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Speaker 2: all over the world, whomever it.
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Speaker 3: Is, what have they told us about this reality?
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Speaker 2: So my interest in understanding what reality is as opposed
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Speaker 2: to what we have been taught it is is a
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Speaker 2: big part of what the work that I do. And
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Speaker 2: sematics teaches us that a lot of people use the
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Speaker 2: word sematics to talk about movement or the body, and
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Speaker 2: that's just one aspect of it. Sematics as a practice
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Speaker 2: tells us that we have been formed through the first
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Speaker 2: seven years of our lives. And what I those seven
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Speaker 2: years inform my beliefs, my expectations, my perceptions, my thoughts,
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Speaker 2: and my daily actions. That is what I embody. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so embodiment is what I do daily, and so many
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Speaker 2: humans are going what I embody daily doesn't reflect what
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Speaker 2: I value. It doesn't reflect what deeply nourishes me, and
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Speaker 2: we have a hard time then locating, Okay, well what
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Speaker 2: do I value and what is it that I want for?
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Speaker 2: And Samati says, we have to actually change our physiology
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Speaker 2: from what we have been taught and therefore practicing daily
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Speaker 2: to what I value and allowing that to be what
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Speaker 2: I practice daily. So an example I often use is
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Speaker 2: this this polarity of urgency and ease. So our system
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Speaker 2: teaches us urgency. Our systems are prime to experience urgency
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Speaker 2: in the way of pace and stress and pressure and
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Speaker 2: feeling like everything feels like a threat to our nervous
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Speaker 2: ist and because of deadline and pace and validation and
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Speaker 2: who am I if I'm not doing doing and all
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Speaker 2: of those sorts of things, most people that I work
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Speaker 2: with are.
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Speaker 3: Like, I want ease.
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Speaker 2: I want to feel at home in my body while
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Speaker 2: I'm going about my day. Why can't I access ease?
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Speaker 2: If that's something I want? Why am I not able
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Speaker 2: to really cultivate that? Because urgency lives so deeply in
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Speaker 2: our psychooneerome know, hydropological, it's in our physiology, and so
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Speaker 2: somatics is actually the practice of shifting that through a
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Speaker 2: body up approach so that we can actually teach the
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Speaker 2: body ease and then actually.
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Speaker 3: Move through the world in that way.
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Speaker 2: So when I say I want you to live the
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Speaker 2: life that you so deeply long for desire, I'm saying
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Speaker 2: that there is a practice, There is a paradigm and
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Speaker 2: a practice, and that's what semantics is. It's both a
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Speaker 2: way of viewing the world and also a subset of many,
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Speaker 2: many supportive practices that through that work you can actually
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Speaker 2: teach your body to embody what you so deeply long for.
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Speaker 3: In value.
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Speaker 1: Well, wow, as you were describing that, I was thinking, yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: and yet in our culture, I mean, there's an strong
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Speaker 1: argument to be made that our culture doesn't support that,
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Speaker 1: in fact supports the antithesis of that. Of course, we're
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Speaker 1: all anxious, and you know it's interest me. It just
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Speaker 1: feels like an uphill battle oftentimes.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's something that I really teach.
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Speaker 2: I teach a two year clinicosomatic educator and therapist training
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Speaker 2: and we go through all of this, and a big
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Speaker 2: part of the first six months even is just really
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Speaker 2: supporting the paradigm shift work, Like it's really difficult to
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Speaker 2: actually embody what we long for because as you're saying,
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Speaker 2: the system supports the opposite, and so it's really, as
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Speaker 2: you say, like it's an uphill battle.
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Speaker 3: And just yesterday I was sharing with my students that we.
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Speaker 2: Often celebrate people when we are noticing momentum or success
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Speaker 2: or some iteration of that, when really in the work
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Speaker 2: that I do, really recognizing how hard it is to
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Speaker 2: first notice, WHOA, this is not the shape that I
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Speaker 2: want to embody, this is not the life that I
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Speaker 2: long for, and then take those initial steps and those
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Speaker 2: initial first years to really turn towards what is my
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Speaker 2: nervous system, What is the state of my nervous system,
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Speaker 2: what is my physiology holding, what are my beliefs and
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Speaker 2: definitions about the world. That work is so satiating but difficult.
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Speaker 2: It's so deeply nourishing to look in that way, but
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Speaker 2: it's also very challenging, and I'm like, that's actually the
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Speaker 2: everest and we're taught to really celebrate when people get
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Speaker 2: to the top, but even just thinking, oh, I want
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Speaker 2: to climb everest Or, I'm at the first base. Those
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Speaker 2: are the places that we really want to celebrate as
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Speaker 2: somatic therapists.
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Speaker 1: So this is intense. I mean, you're the way you're
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Speaker 1: talking makes me feel like, you know, you're describing a
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Speaker 1: process that a lot of people don't talk about. This
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Speaker 1: seems like the foundational, the elemental process of like becoming
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Speaker 1: a human being, becoming our best versions of ourselves. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I mean as you say that, like my
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Speaker 2: research continues to discover both through the lens of mysticism
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Speaker 2: but also science, physiology, psychology, is that what we are
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Speaker 2: taught is a lot of it is actually untrue. And
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Speaker 2: I can get more into that a little bit, but
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Speaker 2: primarily what I'll say is it's just the tip of
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Speaker 2: the iceberg of what's possible for us as humans and
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Speaker 2: understanding that we actually exist in a world of possibility
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Speaker 2: and really teaching people the process the science behind that
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Speaker 2: from a somatic nervous system perspective is my is what
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Speaker 2: I So, as I said in the beginning, like, yes,
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Speaker 2: what I primarily do is offer people that you know,
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Speaker 2: a heal nervous system can change everything, but on a
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Speaker 2: much deeper level, really teaching the cognitive but also the
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Speaker 2: somatic physiology experience how to be in the world. That
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Speaker 2: is so much more ful, Like there's so much more
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Speaker 2: possibility and depth and connection that is available than what
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Speaker 2: we are taught and what is emulated on a regular basis.
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Speaker 1: So as we kind of wind down here, Malorie, do
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Speaker 1: you what do you teach specifically? You work with individuals
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Speaker 1: and looking at your website, now you have specific courses.
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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do work one on one as a
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Speaker 2: sematic experiencing practitioner and so that's also on my website.
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Speaker 2: But one of my main oh, I would say, like
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Speaker 2: maybe passion products, like my main birth into the world
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Speaker 2: is this course called Brain Body Being. It's a two
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Speaker 2: year clinical somatic educator and clinical somatic therapy course and
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Speaker 2: we get into the really the science of spirituality and
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Speaker 2: the deep process of what sematics can offer and so
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Speaker 2: shaught we in the two years, folks become really masterful
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Speaker 2: at working one on one with clients in their nervous systems,
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Speaker 2: working in the context of movement and healing chronic pain
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Speaker 2: and supporting chronic illness through clinical sematic exercises, and then
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Speaker 2: working a lot in the human systems and paradigmatic work
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Speaker 2: that sematics offers as well.
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Speaker 1: Wow, So who is the course for.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. It's actually for anyone.
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Speaker 3: We really like.
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Speaker 2: I love when people who are already professionals and the
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Speaker 2: medical profession or movement profession or educational professions come to
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Speaker 2: the course. That's amazing to bring new perspectives there. But
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Speaker 2: truly anyone. We have people who want to take the
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Speaker 2: course primarily for their own learning. We have people who
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Speaker 2: want to make this their new career, and we have
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Speaker 2: folks who want to combine what they're already doing with
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Speaker 2: deeper knowledge as well. So all of the above are welcome.
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Speaker 1: So the psycho physiology is to me kind of unique.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this just isn't somatic education. You're going deeper.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know another ground.
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Speaker 2: We cover all Like, as you brought up in the beginning,
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Speaker 2: I want you to live the life that you most
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Speaker 2: deeply desire. In order to do that, well, understanding how
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Speaker 2: the way that I move about my world is intersected
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Speaker 2: is one and the same of what my physiology is
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Speaker 2: primed for, is trained to do and how to shift
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Speaker 2: That is a really profound process for people and that's
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Speaker 2: a big part of the work that we do.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Really interesting. All right, So how can people learn
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Speaker 1: more about you and the courses you off for Mallorie.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can visit my website www. Dot Homebodyhealing
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Speaker 2: dot org and our instagram Homebody dot Healing is another
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Speaker 2: main aspect of communication that we utilize. We are in
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Speaker 2: the works of starting new projects, so launching a podcast
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Speaker 2: actually in January called Nice how to Know Their Worlds,
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Speaker 2: and I've been talking about the intersections of mysticism and
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Speaker 2: somatic work. Yeah, so that will also be on Instagram
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Speaker 2: with Homebody dot Healing, but you can find that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are those are the primary race.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll have those linked up here at the show
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Speaker 1: notes page at the traumatiperspodcast dot com. Mallorie your intense
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Speaker 1: in a beautiful way. I mean, I love it. It's
29:54
Speaker 1: like amazing love to have you back because there's so,
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Speaker 1: I think, so many things to talk about. But it
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Speaker 1: was great meeting you and I appreciate you coming here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you having me. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: All right, take care