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Del Bigtree on Purpose, Personal Practices and His Public Career · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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  Speaker 1: Good morning everyone.
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  Speaker 2: This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today I
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  Speaker 2: have a very special guest. His name is Dell big Tree,
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  Speaker 2: and many of you probably read my cover article in
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  Speaker 2: Talk Doctor magazine where he was the feature, and this was.
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  Speaker 1: About I think three or four weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: But Dell, you were absolutely amazing in that article and
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate all the hard work you put in
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  Speaker 2: and thank you for coming back because today we're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a chance to do an interactive interview rather
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  Speaker 2: than a journalistic interview. So this is a chance to
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  Speaker 2: really get to know who Dell big Tree is in
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  Speaker 2: the human way, listening to his voice and all his
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  Speaker 2: other incredible stories. So welcome Dell. We're happy to have
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  Speaker 2: you at Aless and Timeless.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Michelle. It's an honor to be here.
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  Speaker 1: And you since we were together.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you for the first time met in person
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas at Alpernius event Changing Life and Destiny.
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  Speaker 1: Can remember we met briefly at the Black Tie.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us what's been happening in your world since
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  Speaker 2: you did the article with us and since I met
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  Speaker 2: you in April.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've it's actually been in sort of a new
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  Speaker 4: part of the journey for me, which is sort of
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  Speaker 4: taking this work international.
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  Speaker 3: My latest film, and Inconvenient.
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  Speaker 4: Study, has now been viewed over one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 4: million times worldwide.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And we had a lot of people reaching out from
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  Speaker 4: different countries.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I do a weekly talk to the high Wire.
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  Speaker 4: Online, so I've always known I had an international audience,
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  Speaker 4: but I decided to go out and start.
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  Speaker 3: Meeting some of those people.
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  Speaker 4: So in the last I guess it's about month and
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  Speaker 4: a half, I have been to England twice, to the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 4: to Italy, France, Poland, Japan, and it's just been amazing
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  Speaker 4: to see this conversation around vaccine safety and mandates really
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  Speaker 4: in so many different languages, and watch this film work
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  Speaker 4: in so many different languages. It's been a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 4: And then along the you know, the journey, of course,
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  Speaker 4: I've had the opportunity to interview the top scientists and
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  Speaker 4: experts in every one of those countries and ask them
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  Speaker 4: what the COVID pandemic experience was like for them in
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  Speaker 4: their different countries, amongst other questions that I have, And
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  Speaker 4: it's been very eye opening for someone I thought I
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  Speaker 4: had a pretty good pulse on everything. I've been reporting
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  Speaker 4: on this stuff for you know, nine years total, but
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  Speaker 4: really COVID we were sort of seting point in that
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  Speaker 4: and I'm learning new things, i think from the different
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  Speaker 4: perspectives that different nations have in viewpoints. So it's been
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  Speaker 4: it's been a great and very invigorating, somewhat exhausting a
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  Speaker 4: couple months at tell.
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  Speaker 2: You, so give us a quick synopsis of Inconvenience Study.
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  Speaker 2: I did, I did watch it, but not everybody that is, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: viewing us today has seen it. So could you just
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  Speaker 2: give us a quick summary.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: The first movie I made that really brought me to
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  Speaker 4: this conversation was called vax From Cover Up to Catastrophe.
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  Speaker 4: I left my job at CBS on the daytime talk
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  Speaker 4: so the doctors to make that documentary and then travel
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  Speaker 4: the country with it for nearly a year. But the
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  Speaker 4: year they released April twenty sixteen, I was actually on
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  Speaker 4: tour with that film.
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  Speaker 3: And that film was just about.
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  Speaker 4: A whistleblower inside the CDC and how he was expressing
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  Speaker 4: the recommitting scientific fraud on the vaccine safety studies, specifically
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  Speaker 4: MMR and autism. But while I was on tour with
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  Speaker 4: that film, I was making my way up through Michigan
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  Speaker 4: in Detroit and a fan of the film reached out
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  Speaker 4: to me and said, I'm really good friends with a
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  Speaker 4: head of infectious disease at henry Ford Health. His name's
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  Speaker 4: doctor Mark and Servos. Would you meet him for dinner.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to, you know, see you have a debate
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  Speaker 4: with him, because he's very pro vaccine. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I said, I'd love to have that dinner.
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  Speaker 3: So we did.
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  Speaker 4: We met, and through the course of that conversation it
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  Speaker 4: was interesting. He said to me he'd watched the film,
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  Speaker 4: which was great, and you know, said it was well made,
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  Speaker 4: though he wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Sure if he agreed with the perception.
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  Speaker 4: But he said to me, you know, you've been saying
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  Speaker 4: something online during this tour. I see when these YouTube
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  Speaker 4: videos that I found very disturbing, you keep saying that
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  Speaker 4: they've never done a proper safety study of any of
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  Speaker 4: the childhood vaccines prior to Licenger. And he said, so,
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  Speaker 4: I sit on the biggest databases in the world. This
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  Speaker 4: is what I do for a living, and I went
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  Speaker 4: for the last week to investigate to bring you the
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  Speaker 4: evidence to prove that you're wrong. And he said, and
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  Speaker 4: I am shocked that I have to sit across from
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  Speaker 4: you and tell.
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  Speaker 3: You you're right. I had no idea.
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  Speaker 4: We never did any safety studies on these products. And
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  Speaker 4: then he said, that doesn't mean that they're not safe.
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  Speaker 4: It just means we can't say scientifically that they're safe.
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  Speaker 4: I said, and yet you do on every news channel,
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  Speaker 4: every newspaper, practically in sitcoms and movies worldwide. You express
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  Speaker 4: that anyone's crazy to say that you haven't established safety.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, we were having this debate and he said, look,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what I can do about it. Tell
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  Speaker 4: it's unfortunate we didn't do safety trials, so well, why
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  Speaker 4: don't you prove me wrong? And I was saying, I
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  Speaker 4: think vaccines are actually making us sicker. Why don't you
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  Speaker 4: do a study comparing vaccinated children to unvaccined children their
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  Speaker 4: health outcomes after having already made these decisions.
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  Speaker 3: So that was twenty sixteen. It took a few years.
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  Speaker 4: He finally did complete that study at henry Ford Health
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  Speaker 4: using their database their children, and then refused to publish it.
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  Speaker 4: And that was like the only agreement we had. I said,
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  Speaker 4: if you do this, no matter what you find, publish
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  Speaker 4: what you find. I'll accept it. If you can show
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  Speaker 4: the vaccinator healthier, I will accept that. I'll come publish it.
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  Speaker 4: But he refused to publish it. So I called him,
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  Speaker 4: and I remember, I said, what's going on? Why don't
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  Speaker 4: you publish it? And he said to me over the phone,
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  Speaker 4: when I agreed to do this study, Dell, I did
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  Speaker 4: not realize I was agreeing to ending the childhood vaccine program.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, the studies that bad. He says, it's
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  Speaker 3: that bad.
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  Speaker 4: So we had that conversation for about a year and
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  Speaker 4: finally I went up, I was going.
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  Speaker 3: To be in Detroit at a speaking engagement, said can
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  Speaker 3: we get dinner?
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  Speaker 4: So we went out to dinner, and I did something
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  Speaker 4: I've never done before. I wore hidden cameras, took in
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  Speaker 4: recording equipment, and recorded the entire conversation we had. And
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  Speaker 4: that is the heart of this film, where because people
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  Speaker 4: need to hear how much he believed in the study,
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  Speaker 4: how hard he worked at it, how pro vaccine he is,
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  Speaker 4: how shocked he is by the results, and how afraid
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  Speaker 4: he is to publish it because the climate around doctors
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  Speaker 4: and scientists that dare to question this orthodoxy is so dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: As he says, I would be finished. I would be
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  Speaker 4: ruined by doing this and all the work that I've done.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what the film and a Nutshell's about. And
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  Speaker 4: I will say it's the most standard intment of vaccinations
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  Speaker 4: you will ever have.
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  Speaker 1: Any interrupted.
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  Speaker 2: I interrupt you because I was so anxious to ask
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  Speaker 2: this question. But would have been the repercussions with him
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  Speaker 2: from the fact that you published this, that you made
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  Speaker 2: this documentary.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know.
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  Speaker 4: I received a cease and assist letter from Henry Ford
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  Speaker 4: Health before we even released the film, so back in
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  Speaker 4: October of last year, they were threatening a defamation case.
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  Speaker 4: But at the time time they did not know that
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  Speaker 4: I had recorded doctor Deservos, and so upon revealing that
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  Speaker 4: my opinion was not, you know based, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: it was my opinion, and my opinion was that they
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  Speaker 4: didn't publish this study because they didn't like the results,
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  Speaker 4: they said that that was defamation to say that. But
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  Speaker 4: essentially that's exactly what Marcus Iervos says in his own words,
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  Speaker 4: and once they saw that he'd made those statements, all
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  Speaker 4: I know is I haven't been sued yet. As far
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  Speaker 4: as I have had no contact with him, I do know,
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  Speaker 4: I was doing an interview with a reporter from the
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  Speaker 4: Atlantic Coop tends to not agree with my position, and
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  Speaker 4: he told me, even I reached out to do an interview,
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  Speaker 4: I would have been very you know, forgiving of doctor Cervos.
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  Speaker 4: They wouldn't let me near him. So I think he's
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  Speaker 4: under It sounds like a media.
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  Speaker 3: Blackout right now. It's not allowed to talk to anybody,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's truly amazing that you have been able to
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  Speaker 2: be so courageous and take the positions that you've taken
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  Speaker 2: throughout your life. You've been a you know, a contrarian,
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  Speaker 2: I guess in terms of accepting what the media and
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 2: the lead or the political powers that be want us
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  Speaker 2: to believe. And I just give you so much credit
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  Speaker 2: because it's really a lonely place to be when you're
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  Speaker 2: taking a point of view that is contrary to what
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  Speaker 2: the powers that be want the population. So really, congratulations
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  Speaker 2: for being such a warrior and fighting for all of
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  Speaker 2: the people that you know, really didn't have a voice
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  Speaker 2: without your effort.
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  Speaker 1: So, and I didn't say this at the prime.
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  Speaker 4: It's getting less and less lonely every day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yes, because I think they are currently sit in
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  Speaker 4: awe of what is happening in America. They're incredibly envious
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  Speaker 4: some ways incorrectly so they're waiting for Robert Kennedy Junior
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  Speaker 4: to fix this problem in America and thus for the world.
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  Speaker 4: And my message is the people are the ones that
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  Speaker 4: are going to change this. There's no single politician. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think Bob is I don't think the environment of
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  Speaker 4: d C is going to prove open to getting all
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  Speaker 4: that we would hope he'd get done. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he's going to get it all done, but he is changing.
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  Speaker 4: The conversation is wild to watch him. I think now
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  Speaker 4: still second year in a row of polling, is the
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  Speaker 4: most favored member of this administration. He's pulling the highest.
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  Speaker 4: We are seeing incredible stats about MAHA values, which is
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  Speaker 4: like sort of that term that he came up with,
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  Speaker 4: a reporting that essentially the values of them in many
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  Speaker 4: ways are crossing over to liberals and democratic is even
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  Speaker 4: broader than we recognize. But they won't use the word MAHA.
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  Speaker 4: They don't like that because they feel like it's attached
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  Speaker 4: to Trump. But they do are really appreciating the work
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  Speaker 4: that Bobby's doing, and especially in the less controversial space
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  Speaker 4: of food supply, water.
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  Speaker 3: Things like that, where he's been great.
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  Speaker 4: He's got you know, almost by partisan coalition built so
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  Speaker 4: and I was lucky enough to be as director of
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  Speaker 4: communications when he ran for president to get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just about to say that to everybody
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  Speaker 2: that in case you didn't know, and I didn't do,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do the adequate introduction. I should have that
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  Speaker 2: that you were his director, Bobby.
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy RFK Juniors. You were his director of.
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  Speaker 2: Communications for his effort to us to get nominated, right
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  Speaker 2: as when.
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  Speaker 1: He was running for president.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for president's big jobs.
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  Speaker 1: That You've had a long friendship with him, right.
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  Speaker 3: So I do.
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  Speaker 4: I like to say, you know, they say never meet
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  Speaker 4: your heroes, but in this case, and I grew up
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  Speaker 4: in Boulder, Colorado, my family or environmentalists, so I was.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he was my hero way long before I
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  Speaker 4: got anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Near this vaccine issue.
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  Speaker 4: I've always appreciated the work he did cleaning up our
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  Speaker 4: rivers and you know, stopping logging on tribal lands and
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  Speaker 4: things like that. So to get to work with him
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  Speaker 4: was just an incredible honor. And I can just say,
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  Speaker 4: even after that experience, I'm more in awe of him
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  Speaker 4: and his unique ability under very very difficult circumstances to
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  Speaker 4: stay positive and keep getting things done. He's I think
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  Speaker 4: we are blessed to have him in our political system.
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  Speaker 2: Totally and I only hope his work continues and hopefully
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  Speaker 2: in the next two years are not stalled by a
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  Speaker 2: change in power and November. So just we're all praying
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  Speaker 2: together that we had a Bobby Kennedy with power to
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  Speaker 2: continue his work, his good work.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk more about you.
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  Speaker 2: So going back to the beginning, the very beginning, Boulder, Colorado,
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  Speaker 2: what was it in your early life that put you
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  Speaker 2: on the track to become who you are today.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because you start out by saying,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I've been a contrarian before I ever, you know,
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  Speaker 4: really got into this space. And I guess some of
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  Speaker 4: that is is that my parents were you know, sixties
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  Speaker 4: hippies and not the kind just talked about it actually
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  Speaker 4: marched in Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up with heroes.
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  Speaker 4: Like you know, Abby Hoffman and the Chicago Seven and
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  Speaker 4: was raised on books like Brave New World in nineteen
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  Speaker 4: eighty four, and my parents were very concerned that the
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  Speaker 4: American dream would fall apart and sort of be devoured
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  Speaker 4: by special interests. And my mom had had you know,
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  Speaker 4: she was an actress in New York, but her sort
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  Speaker 4: of side gig was typing, and so she did tempt typing,
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  Speaker 4: and talked about working at the Today Show and during
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  Speaker 4: Vietnam and watching writers and reporters coming in and being
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  Speaker 4: told they were not allowed to tell the truth about
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  Speaker 4: a story or a battle that had just happened. And
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  Speaker 4: so she saw firsthand that the news is being manipulated
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  Speaker 4: by what I think we would call now Operation paper Clip.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she knew what was behind it, but
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  Speaker 4: she did witness with her own eyes that media is
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  Speaker 4: not telling us the truth. She was hearing it inside
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  Speaker 4: the newsroom, but no one in America was.
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  Speaker 3: And so all of.
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  Speaker 4: Those things were the tapestry or the blanket that you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was covered and shelter by, which was my parents
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  Speaker 4: raised me to follow my own instincts, to trust my
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  Speaker 4: own instincts, and you know, to listen to what's being said,
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  Speaker 4: but recognize that everyone is fallible and the odds are
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  Speaker 4: that the truth is being manipulated in one way or another,
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  Speaker 4: and that really, to make my way in the world,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to have to develop a relationship to
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  Speaker 4: God to be able to sit down, get quiet, and
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  Speaker 4: look for guidance. And so I've had that as my
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  Speaker 4: background since I was a child, and I you know,
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  Speaker 4: I struggle with the nurture versus nature, you know, debate,
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  Speaker 4: because I really don't know if I am the product
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  Speaker 4: of a strong socialization by two very dynamic freedom fighters,
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  Speaker 4: or if I had some intrinsic ethical or moral compass
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  Speaker 4: that I was born with. I will never know, but
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  Speaker 4: it is it has been a driving feature in almost
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  Speaker 4: everything I've done. And I remember when I was my
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  Speaker 4: dad was a minister, and I think there was some
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  Speaker 4: hopes that maybe I would follow in his footsteps.
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  Speaker 3: But I wanted a larger audience.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted I wanted to get more into politics, into
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  Speaker 4: global issues than just speaking about religion. And so I
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  Speaker 4: went to Hollywood, and I remember when I was leaving,
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  Speaker 4: my father said to me, Dell, you know, Hollywood tends
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  Speaker 4: to mean the human spirit in the stories that it tells.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to go there, want, you know, lift
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  Speaker 4: us up, help human beings, recognize how powerful and beautiful
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  Speaker 4: they are, not how dark and sick and twisted and
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  Speaker 4: weak they are. And you know, I like to think
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  Speaker 4: when I look back that for the most part my
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  Speaker 4: journey has had a benefit to society.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that brings up a really good question that I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure everybody is thinking right now is how did you
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  Speaker 2: overcome all the obstacles? What was it that gave you
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  Speaker 2: the strength to confront the challenges that you've had along
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  Speaker 2: the way and to be the, like I said before,
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  Speaker 2: the warrior that you are today. So was there any
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  Speaker 2: one moment, serendipitously that changed you forever or was this
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  Speaker 2: more of an evolution rather than a revolution.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all go through an evolution.
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  Speaker 4: There was certainly, you know, all around the time I
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  Speaker 4: was working in television on the Doctors, there were several
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  Speaker 4: big realization moments that I think almost made me a
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  Speaker 4: different person. I'll say my nature is, as I look around,
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  Speaker 4: I'm very forgiving of myself.
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  Speaker 3: I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like I think, I'm a total optimist. And I
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  Speaker 4: remember this back to even when I was a little
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  Speaker 4: kid playing soccer on the field. You know, we would
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  Speaker 4: be three minutes to go and down by six goals,
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  Speaker 4: and there was still something in me that would be
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  Speaker 4: excited that we still had a chance. So I think
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  Speaker 4: an unreasonable sense of optimism that is my nature. Then
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I think that the thing that I've really learned, if
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I was to try and explain to people or you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: give a class, or I'm even thinking of writing a book.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I think the thing that really I discovered is and
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I found the best way to describe it as this.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I was talking to a friend a few months ago
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: about Jesus making this statement, if you have faith the
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: grain of a mustard seed, you can move a mountain,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: And I mean, my whole I think we've all struggled
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: with that, like I mean certainly, I mean, I must
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: have that much faith inside of this being.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm moving, I can move mountains.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: And I really from the moment I was in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Oval Office when Bobby put his hand on that Bible
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: and was sworn in his HHS secretary. And the truth is,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it was bigger than had he won the presidency. It
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: was more specific to why we were running him for president.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: It was so perfect, so perfectly designed, that I just
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: was overwhelmed with this feeling that God is great and
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: this is far bigger than anything any of us dreamed
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: or were capable of imagining. That there's a greater consciousness
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: that is capable of taking us to places we can't
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: even imagine. And so I've really since that moment been
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: contemplating how that happened, and you know a lot of
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: people will credit me. Was a few of us, Charles Eisenstein, course,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Bobby himself and the work he's done. But what I
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: would say is, when I look at this idea, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: see it a little bit differently. I think that one
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of the things that really changed for me when I
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: walked away from my television career and took a risk
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: to make a documentary about vaccines. It was only going
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: to get me attacked. I just felt this was what
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I was born to do do. I guided me, I
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: was guided to it, but it took away my long
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: term vision.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: It took away me thinking.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I knew as a producer, you have to know how
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: things are going to go what's going to go wrong.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like I lost that and was really forced
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to just be in the immediate. What can I do
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: to make this documentary today better? How can I talk
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Andy Wakefield into allowing me to do the next thing
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: in this documentary that I think will advance it? How
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: do I get people to hear it? And I would
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: just listen and do what came to me. And I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: realized as I look back, you know, now I've won
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: lawsuits against the Governor of the United States. My nonprofit,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: we fund the greatest attorney in the world, Aaron Siri.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: We've spent twenty eight million dollars that are raised from
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: five and ten dollars donors that have collected around the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: work that we've done, like so many things, but each
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: one of them really started with simple ideas.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And I realized all I.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Was just doing every day was moving a mustard seed,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: something very small. I didn't attach it to it had
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: to move the mountain. I just got focused on what
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: can I do today? And it started with simple tasks,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: some bigger than others, but I just kept saying yes
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and doing it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: And that's what.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I think now when I think of that term. I've
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: moved a lot of mustard seeds, a lot of tiny,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: tiny little things with no idea where they're going to end,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: and one day I look up and that mountain is gone.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Or in this case, Robert Kennedy Junior, the most hated
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: man in health in the world, is now getting the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: most powerful position in health that exists.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: On the planet.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And so that is my message to everyone. We should
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: not fear, we should not question our purpose on this earth. Instead,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: recognize we're needed recognize we're vessels for change, and every
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: little thing that we do to answer that question what
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: should I do today?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Every little thing.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Just assume it is actually a part of something much
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: bigger and do it. Don't need it to change the world,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: just know that that is what you're required to do.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: You know, Bobby talks a lot about this too. It's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: great being with him.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: He discusses sissipis that he just sees I am pushing
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: this boulder up the mountain. It does not matter where
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the top of this mountain is. I don't think about
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: how heavy this boulder is. I am just going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: keep pushing and the rest of it is in God's hands.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what has allowed me to I
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: take what I think other people would call risks. I
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: have felt very protected and helped and handled all along
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you gave the keynote at the Changing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Life Destiny and I didn't.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Expect that speech from you.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I really I thought it was going to be far
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: more about longevity and technical and.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You know, more to what we were.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But you really came across and there were a lot
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: There wasn't a dry eye in the room as the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: most spiritual guided entrepreneur and as I said earlier, warrior
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: for longevity but also for true and it was so inspiring.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if other people gave you any feedback,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: but I certainly wanted to come up and hug you,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: but you were surrounded by one hundred people, so I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: couldn't do that. But honestly, this was truly it was
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the vision speech.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: It was a.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Speech that it just flowed. It was like you were channeled.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: It flowed from you. It didn't have you didn't have
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a note or anything.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You just spoke. And I think this is truly what
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: people in.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: The world need to experience, is just that kind of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: drive and vision and purpose and passion all the you
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: know the things I always say, passion to purpose is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the first step that you need to take first to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: find what your passion is and then put it into
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the terms of achievable actions and that your you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: driving towards your purpose.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And then you know earlier on.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Is the pain, the pain of knowing that you have
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that myth of sissifus battle that you're going to have
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to face no matter what field you're in.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: But let's just keep it to longevity.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Today because health is health is probably one of the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: most challenging of all of the United of our country anyway,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: battles to overcome. I mean, we've just allowed ourselves. I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: don't want to get off on a big pontification here,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: but I know you agree with me. So it's always
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: nice to talk to somebody that you have in alignment with.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But at anyway, back to.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Is there one person in your life? I know RFK
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be one of them, but.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Let's just say two people.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Are there two people in your life that have made
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: a difference in who you are, help to shape you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to who you are.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I really do have to, you know, put
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: my parents into that mix. I think that if there's
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: you know, if people see me as different than your
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: average person, if they want to do that. I don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: do that for myself, but you know, I think parenting
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: is the most important thing that we do. And I
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: was very lucky that I had parents that took that job.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: My mom, especially my dad, was very busy running the church,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: but my mom very much instilled in me the belief
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: that I could change the world. In fact, that was
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: my DestinE. That's what I was here to do. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I've watched her. I watched my brother and sister do
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: amazing things in their lives. And you know, she was
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: brilliant at stepping in when I was taking outside opinion
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: and letting it affect me. She taught me an ability
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: to have strength and through God, to recognize when I'm afraid,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's because I've lost I've lost connection to my source
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: and to God, and that those are moments not to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: be afraid, but to get back to your source and recognize.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: While you're here.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And so there certainly have been really dynamic. You know, people,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here without my wife, you know, both beautiful.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You know, in every way possible, has held my home
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: together so that when I go out on these battles,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: I come home to stability, to beauty, to children and love.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: And they're not seeing their father much, which could have
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of guilt to it, but she's done a
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: beautiful job of inspiring them and bringing me down to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: reality when I've come up.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And say, be here with the kids.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: So all of those things I think are a huge
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: effect on my life.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you just described what in the longevity industry we
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: say is one of the five pillars right, So having
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: purpose in life and then being surrounded by love and
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: being not only surrounded by it, but being able to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: give it to others. And that's one of the you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the pillars going along, you know, along with all the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: other things that we can talk about, sleep and nutrition,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: food being of course, you know, probably the biggest pillar
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of all, and that's one of the things that you've
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: you've attacked, along with RFK and the rest of us
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: who are believers in in you know, fighting the the
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the institutional side of food in our country, which is
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: unfortunately sacrifice to the special interests.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Of the almighty dollar.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that if you were giving advice to let's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: say someone, a group of people in your audience right now,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and there's there in there over fifty, they're in their
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: golden years, and you are going to tell them, what
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: is it that you can do to extend your lifespan
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and your house span? What would be some of the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: advice that you would give them? And I'm using over
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: fifty because there is much evidence today that you should
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: start this, you know, at birth.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Really you should start this as a child.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking that the baby boomers and the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: aging population you know, focus on the biggest cohort of all,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: which is the baby boomers, who are most of them
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: are turning eighty this year. So you know, include that
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: because that is probably one of the biggest cohorts we
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have in this you know, it is the biggest cohort
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: we have in this country. But however, you know, we
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: can focus on anyone that's reached that golden year fifty
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and beyond.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I was give one piece of advice
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: and probably drink more water. I think, if there's one
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: issue I have and everyone I meet, I think we
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: are all dehydrated. I don't think we're removing toxins. We
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: live in a very tough environment, and we forget to
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: do the most important thing, which is to keep cleansing
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: our body, allowing water to move through us.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I genuinely I think of products.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Can I get a timer, I mean, because I have
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: this issue, Can I get this thing to tell me
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I need to drink again? Because I can forget. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: that'd be a very specific thing. But I think to
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: the point that you made love yourself.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: You know, I think that.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: First of all, you can't love anybody else if you
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: don't love yourself, and if you find situations around you
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: that are not making you feel blessed or not making
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: you feel grateful, maybe you start by just faking it
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: and saying I'm grateful as many time as you can
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: in a day, but also change those circumstances around you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: We're not I really do not believe that we are
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: victims of anything in this world. I think that we
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: are creating the world that we live in. We are
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: fully responsible. I also would say that those difficulties in
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: our lives are the guiding those are the.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Centuries of.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Our map of our quest I have found and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: really discovered this throughout working on backs. As a story
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I'll tell to exemplify this. We were working on this Whistleblower.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: We had all the transcripts. He was saying amazing things
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: about autism and the fraud that they had committed the CDC.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: And then suddenly a book came out with those transcripts
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: in it, and Andy was really upset. He thought that
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: he was the only one in control.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Of these words.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: We were very concerned that this book would out the
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: whistle Blower before we got the film out, which means
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: he was in danger now. And we thought the book
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: lacked the context that our film was giving the see
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: we'd even understand what it was he was saying and
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: why it was important. Anyway, it was a very bad,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: bad moment, dark moment. And I sat down and parade
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: that morning, and I walked.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Out in the room. As I do, I tended to say, Eric,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: God speak through. What is it we need to understand here?
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: And I sat down Andy and Polly and Brian, the
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: three people that were working on the film, and I said, look,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: we are never going to be smart enough to outsmart
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: all of the advertising think tanks that Pharma uses to
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: push their agenda.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: We're never going to own the television set.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: There're sixty to seventy percent of the advertising TV as Pharma,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: so they're not even going to let us talk about
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: this film on TV.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: They're the number one most powerful.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Lobby in Washington, which means they own every government official
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: we're going to go talk to, you know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And I pointed all these things out, and I.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Said, so, the way I have it figured is either
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: God is with us or we are ft.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I use the full.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Word, but I'm not sure what the rating is on
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: this show and what And I said, and what that
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: means to me is that the only way we're going
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: to achieve things bigger than ourselves, we're in a higher intelligence.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Which is what we need here.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Is something is going to have to step in, and
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: if it's stepping in, I'm going to guess it wasn't
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: something we thought of and will probably look a lot
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: like catastrophe because.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: It's not inside of our frame of reference.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: So why don't we just assume this book had to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: come out that I don't know why. Maybe God was
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: priming this story so that enough people knew it so
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: there would be a reception when the film came. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: don't know, but let's just assume it is working towards
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: our highest good and work from that and move on.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: And I will say that is probably one of the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: biggest shifting moments in my life because from.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: That moment on, I have seen every.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Major difficulty or catastrophe as I there something I don't
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: understand that's working towards my good or it's trying to
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: get me back on a track that I've somehow gotten
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: off my path and I need to readjust and get
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: on to it. And when I started seeing the difficulties
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: in my life that way, it's just my life has prospered.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: In fact, I feel like, you know, I as soon
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: as I think something, as soon as I really know
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: what my question is, a door opens up.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: And it has the answer.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's if I had the best
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: piece of advice I could give is be grateful for
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: your life. Be even more grateful for your difficulties, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: recognize that those benefit you.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Think about it, look back at your life, try to.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Remember the greatest moments you had, What were the most
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: the moments that really truly set you on the course
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: that brought the benefit that you had. I would say
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: every time I look back, it's usually a tragedy. It's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: usually a tragedy that helped me get they're not the benefits.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You kind of tread water.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: And in fact, I sort of describe it as if
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I'm wandering in the dark through life and it's hard
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: to know where I'm supposed to go if it's pitch black.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: The one thing I know is when you run into
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: a wall in the dark, for that moment, you know
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the answer is one hundred and eighty degrees the other direction,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and finally you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Have a course.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: And so that is what I would say is don't
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: fight your difficulties, embrace them, love them, and know that
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: they are moving you towards your destiny.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Right, So we learn through adversity and opportunity, and Chinese
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is actually synonymous with adversity.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So at least that's what I've been told.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But the point is, what you're saying is really encapsulating
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: leadership and never give up. I guess Spain would be
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a good example.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Of that the other day, right on the World Finals.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Never give up even when you have.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: A goal taken away that you clearly should have exactly.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: You know you'll lose you exactly.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: So you've been interviewed how many times a hundred thousand
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: or whatever?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's what's the one question.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: That you wish an interviewer would ask if they never do,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And let's talk about answering that question today.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I've been asked a lot of questions.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: A lot of them are similar because it's in a space.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: What would be the one question? I mean, I think
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I think in some ways you're already covering that, right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I don't usually get to talk about the fact that
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: I use difficulties as as a guiding light in my life.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: But the question I.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Ponder the most that maybe I don't even have the
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: answer for, is I feel like I have a destiny.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm a person that has run into
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: their destiny. And my question is, I, you know, I
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: believe the universe is honorable. I believe that God is honorable.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I believe this existence must have some fairness to it,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: which means we all must have a destiny. And so
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: if we're not feeling that destiny, then I think we
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: we've got to recognize that we're looking in the wrong place.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: And so that you know, that question is how to?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I mean the hard one would be how does one
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: find their destiny?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Well, that's again where you are very blessed. And I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: feel I am in the same category that we found
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: in our lives.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: What our purpose is.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: And I in my case, I've had many purposes, but
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I've never had one like this, where philanthropy marries personal
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: passion and wanting to help the world and give back
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and show people the way, you know, to answer those
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: those really daunting questions that people have about their their
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: well their health and well being, and to be able
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to guide them with information that's scientific and also experiential.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: That's an incredible purpose to have you and I share that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: But I always tell people, if you're in your early
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: twenties and you found what it is that you're going
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to be destined to do for the rest of your life,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you are so blessed.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You're one of the luckiest people in the world.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Because many people go through life as kind of like robots.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You know, they just they get into a job.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: They're in a let's say, a Fortune five hundred company.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: They have a staff position that they're very secure, all
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the benefits, but they really they're not fulfilled. And that's
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: like the living dead as far as I'm concerned. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: don't know how people can go to work every day,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: but they have so many obligations that you know, you
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: can understand what what why this living dead category exists
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is because you know, people just haven't allowed themselves the freedom.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: So when I used to give a lot of speeches,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'd always ask the audience, you know, what what would
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you do if you didn't have to have a paycheck
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a paycheck? What would your you know, your let's say,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: your emotional vocation be and or your avocation married now
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to a vocation because you have no worries about financial gain,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and people, really, do you know, wake up when you
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: when you ask that question, because many people haven't even
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: gone that deep to think about it. So what you're
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: just said is truly I think one of the pearls
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: pearl of wisdom that everybody should listen to. And the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: other pearl of wisdom you said, and I didn't give
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you the comment back that I wanted to, is never
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: give up. You know the mantra of well what you
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: said about RFK and Sisyphus is an example, but it
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: just you know what.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Happens to you.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Always know that God is guiding you, and never ever
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: give up.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It's yours. It's a test.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: So if you have a failure, a failure is a
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: lesson and never look at the past but anything but
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a teacher, right, so that you don't use the past
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: to victimize you use the past as a way to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: teach you to not make the same mistakes again.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So or if you do learn again, but learn learn
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it right, you know.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: So that you move on and go to the next
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: level of enlightenment. So I really I hope people value
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: what you just said. So where where do you think
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: longevity is going Dell where there's a lot of biohacking,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And that word just bothers me. I don't know how
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you feel about it, but it's become such a slang expression.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: But let's just use it for the moment as a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: way to express a lot of the experimental work. And
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: apologies to David Astbury for you know, the saying what
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I just said. But the truth is that there's I
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: think there are other ways to explain where we're going
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: in longevity. But what are your key stones for let's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: say the next ten years.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: What do you see happening?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Where do you see changes occurring both you know, good
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: and bad?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I think what you know?
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: And I actually recently interviewed Dave Aspury and as they say,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: he's crying about any attack we made on his concept
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: all the way to the bank. Not to say he's
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: doing for the money. He's a great guy, very inspired inspiration.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: By the way I saw that interview.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: What bothers me about any concept of longevity, if I'm bothered,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: is just my problem with pharma is that the industry
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: is playing God. It doesn't see the existence of God.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: It believes that we are flawed as human beings, were
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: flawed as individuals. It's also permeates into I think my
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: problem with a lot of the political system, the Liberal Party,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: you know, the Democrats that I grew up in, I
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: think hate humanity. They make us hate ourselves, hate our
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: existence on this planet. We're causing harm to the planet,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: that we're like a disease on this planet. So that
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: mindset is so outside of the true mandate that we
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: live in. And the first story ever told on this
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: earth is the story that we're created in the image
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: and likeness of God. We're created perfectly, we are designed
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: is a mirror example of perfection.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And so anything that approaches.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Our health as I have a lack that something outside
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: must fix, I struggle with.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: There are certainly times we're out of balance where a
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: vitamin or something could help. And I think the question
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I've been asking a lot of the longevity of biohacking,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: you know experts, is aren't we just fixing problems that
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: have been created, both toxic chemicals in our environment.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Ways that we're eating. Would we need longevity?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the Bible, is it
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: true that Abraham lives run several hundred years. I don't
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: think he needs biohacking or longevity, but trying to get
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: back I mean, I think if we recognize that in longevity,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: we're just trying to get back to the original, you know, right,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: or gift that's been endowed upon us. And I think
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: we see it that way and start remembering that my
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: body wants to heal. It's designed to heal, it's designed
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: to thrive. Let me take out the things I'm doing
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: that are interfering with my health. And that's how I
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: approach longevity. I try to I don't drive. And by
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: the way, my mental health is the greatest driver of
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: my health.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: So if I'm obsessing.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Over every piece of food that I eat and what
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: chemical is it? And oh my god, are those lines
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: in the sky really poison to me, I'm a mess.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I'm a mental disaster.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: There's no way, there's nothing I can take as a
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: pill or injector or get an ivy of that is
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: going to overcome the illness that is moving from my
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: mind through my body. So the most important thing is
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: that I live a life in love and joy and happiness,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, it's free as of unnecessary stress, as possible,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: or anything I do will be irrelevant. But in longevity, Look,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: there's some very interesting things. I just had a discussion
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: on my show about peptides. I don't like the idea
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: of taking anything permanently. I don't believe, as I said,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: at a flaw. But if maybe my peptides are not
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: fully functioning or something has shut down because of an
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: environmental issue, and I can and reboot that in a
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: safe way, I would say low dose everything is probably
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: the smartest way to go. Like, maybe that's okay, but
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you, I'm still struggling.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I haven't taken a peptid yet. I don't really you know.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I think when you play with your nature, When you
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: play with nature, my experience is there are long term
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: effects we do not see down the road.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So we should be very careful.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I personally lean towards holistic and the natural.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Is this what would this be?
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I picture my life as a born with no buildings around,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: nothing exists. I'm stark naked on the earth as though
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Adam and Eve. What is my knowledge point from there?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: What would I do right now? If that's coming in
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: and I try to make decisions from there?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: But look, I think the beauty of.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Longevity is it's making us be aware of what we're
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: putting into our bodies. I think we're all keenly aware
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: of the amount of carbohydrates, and most of them bad,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: that we're running, running our lives on adrenaline, on sugar
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: and caffeine and carbohydrates instead of as grounded beings with
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: protein moving through a body, more rooted, more stable. So
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I think getting out of this hamster wheel existence is
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: longevity is really looking at the things that are doing that,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: and it is coming down to diet.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: It is coming down.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I love that Day've Askedby's most recent book was on meditation.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: It's the most important thing I do every day. It is.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: If I was to say, what's the one thing that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Has helped you achieve meditation, it's I can't explain it,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: but I just feel like I'm making better decisions. It's
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: like time is moving slower for me than people I
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: see around me. I feel like I have a split
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: second advantage over making decisions because I tend to make
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: more coherent, more cohesive decisions in my life that are
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: making my life easier and more effective. Because I'm sitting
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: down and stopping the chatter and taking control of my
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: own mind and thought at least for a moment during
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: the day. So I suppose if you know I'm looking
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: at I think one of the greatest tools the longevity
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: is meditation. If you are not in control of your mind,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: then you're not in control of anything in your body.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: And so I think that that's a key part.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: But all of this, I love that longevity, biohacking. They're
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: talking about all of these things. They're not that the
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: pharmaceutical industry is not their answer. Most of the time,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I question when it is. I'm a little nervous about,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: you know, an overuse of stem cells. But look, I
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: have had people's lives change with those things, so I
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: think it's new.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: It's a new space. It's going to make mistakes.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: And again, the most important thing to do is, no
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: matter what part of whoever you're listening to, it is
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: me or you, Michelle, or Dave Aspury or Ben Greenfield
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: or whoever it is, don't ever let someone else's voice.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: And this is my mind, the words from my mother
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: and that was really put into me. Don't override your
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: own intuition.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Into someone.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: On the subject of meditation.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to add a little editorial. There are
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: many people that just don't know how to meditate. They
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: just can't get their mind to quiet. So I would
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: say to those people, and I want to know if
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: you agree with me, just make a statement that your
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: thoughts create your reality.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: That what you think is what you are.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: They say, you know, what you eat is who you are,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: but your thoughts are equally as important. So that would
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: be like the number one guidance I would give to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: people who are not unable to get to the level
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: that you have of meditation at least start would be foundational,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: which is, you know, to recognize that you must address.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts and if you have we are all energetic.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: So if you have negative thoughts, you are going to
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: have negative outcomes because you're attracting that negative energy into
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: your into your aura. So you know, just recognize that
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: waking up in the morning, the first thing you say
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: is this is going to be a wonderful day, you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: or I have so much to be proud of or
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: be thankful for. And like my sister used to be
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: very negative, and I always say to country blessings and
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: not your troubles. If you can do that, you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: make a gratitude journal or a list of things that
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: you know, because when you see it physically black and white,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: when you write it down, it tends to re enforce
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: itself more, I think, to your consciousness. But you know,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: the one thing we haven't talked about, and it's really
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the baseline of all help.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Just just real quickly something, be conscious, conscious, conscious that
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: you have thoughts running. Don't just let thoughts run without
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: do you know? It means allow a trigger point to
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: go off. Oh my god, that was a really negative
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: statement I just said about myself.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Or here I go again. I hope I don't f
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: this up?
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Why did I just do that? Like catch, it starts
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: with catching yourself and saying, oh, let me correct that.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: What's a better way to say that. Let's let's succeed here.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Let's go rock this audition out, let's go rock this
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: interview out. Let me you know, let me change it
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: to a positive. You just made an adjustment and you
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: just told your brain. I'm not going to let you
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: get away with this any longer. I'm not going to
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: let you run a tape that I'm not paying attention to.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: That is actually, you know, deciding the nature of my experience,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: and you're right, become conscious of the nature of your thoughts.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: That's all meditation is from the start. Even when I said,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know anybody that says to meditate.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone we all.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: The whole difficulty is we have a busy mind. No
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: one sits down and goes, oh God, that was easy.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I just shout up my brain. It's like the hardest
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: thing you can do. You do it is a practice
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: every day because it's so difficult. And one of the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: tricks I learned is, you know, you sit, you try
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: to get quiet. I like a mantrum that I can
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: repeat every time I find myself thinking. But someone once said, Dell,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: when your thoughts come up, they're going to be there.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Just put them on a little cloud and let the
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: cloud drift away and get back to the mantra and
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: see if you can get to a single thought. But
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: it's the same thing when you're saying, start with start
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: catching your own thoughts, asking yourself, is that the quality
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: of thought that I want to be having? And let
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: me make an adjustment in this moment. And you'll find
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: the more you catch it, the more adjustments you make,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: the more conscious you become and now you're starting on
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: a journey where you will be able to sit down perfectly.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: You know, thoughts come and go, to be able to
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: recognize I have a thought and let it move on.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Because think about it, it's like a radio.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: You've got a thousand stations. You're trying to learn to
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: be able to tune in one station. Really clearly and frankly,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: that station is your connection to your source, your creator, God,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. The better you can
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: tune that in. It's the zone.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: It's what we watch an athlete. What you know when
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you have a good day or you're like I do that,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I was amazing.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: When you have that moment you step outside yourself said
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe the words coming out of my mouth.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Those are those there's that moment of being the zone.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: That's what you're trying to get to. That's just tuning
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: in the right channel so that.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: It just works.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Clearly, no one should give up on it and everyone
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: should accept that it's it's a difficult journey.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: That's why it's so much fun.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: So what is your daily habits? I now know you meditate.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: That's a big one. And I now know water and
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I think I read that you put the sleep is
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: one of your big ones. But just give us a
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: typical day in your life. I don't think you can
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: answer that question.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Let me be afraid.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Travel makes it really hard to say.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: The biggest toxic input is traveling all the time, difficulty
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: of eating with regular regularity, and frankly, when I'm on
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: the road, i'd like to if I have control of
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: my day, I like to intermittent fast and not eat
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: until one o'clock. I like to contain usually two meals
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: inside of six at the longest eight hours. I find
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: that my weight, my energy works better that way. But
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: if I'm traveling, I realized that if I don't eat
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: breakfast right now, I could end up in meetings where
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I don't see a meal till tonight. And I don't
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: want to be strung out. And you know, so the
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: traveling changes. But in a day where I have control,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: today I woke up, I worked out, not as much
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: as I wish I would, but I make myself get
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: in the gym and just say do do. I'm really,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: as I said, forgiving you myself do anything is better
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: than nothing. So I put myself in my home Jim, I,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: you know, lifted weights for about thirty five minutes. I'm
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: hoping I can push that to an hour as things
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: go along. But I really love my sauna, I really
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: and I make that my gift for having worked out
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: for thirty minutes to thirty minutes in the sauna. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: did a great interview with Ed Group once who said
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: that in all the things he's tested and all the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: kelation and detoxing, no product that he has ever given
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: anyone is as effective as I think. He said the
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: thirty minute one thirty minute sauna. He gets more heavy
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: metals and more toxins he finds in that sweat than
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: anything you can do. And I do feel that that
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: really is one of the great things. I'm lucky I
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: own a sauna, but they've made you can have a bag,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: you know. I have a sun light and sauna that
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: I love very much. And then you know, as I said,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: I try to drink water, and I am really working
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: to avoid carbs, mostly because I think they're contaminated. I
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: don't think it's just an issue with wheat or gluten itself.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: I think our wheat products are the most toxic products
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: we have in America. Just sitting on the just in
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: London with my wife, and you realize, like I'm eating
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: everything they have has got sugar in it, Like there's
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of sugar. It's it's pastries and it's sweets,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: and their puddings are sweeter than I would make in
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: the yogurts this weet, And I was like, these people
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  Speaker 4: are eating so much sugar.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't see OBCD around me the way I
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  Speaker 3: see in America.
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  Speaker 4: So there's something really specifically wrong with our food supply here.
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  Speaker 4: So and that's why you know, I'm you know, I
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  Speaker 4: have relatives that are vegan and vegetarian. I just I
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  Speaker 4: don't think there's anything wrong with those diets necessarily, except
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  Speaker 4: that my personal belief now is it's too hard to
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  Speaker 4: get vegetables that aren't contaminated. And I believe when we're
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  Speaker 4: eating meat, those animals are eating toxic foods, but are
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  Speaker 4: somehow also processing some of those doctors out so that
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  Speaker 4: we're getting a purer form of energy. So that's where
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  Speaker 4: I'm at with DIE don't have some perfect answer to it,
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  Speaker 4: And I've really learned to compartmentalize my time. For instance,
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  Speaker 4: I you know, I was doing a New York Times interview,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for the last forty minutes right before I
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  Speaker 4: came on this, But I took some time to sit
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  Speaker 4: down and have a salad. I had twenty minutes, and
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  Speaker 4: I've taught myself to if I'm eat, I am just
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  Speaker 4: eating this salad. I only have twenty minutes. But I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going to think about my you know, interview come
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  Speaker 4: out with Michelle. I'm going to forget about what I
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  Speaker 4: just did with the New York Times, whether I did
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  Speaker 4: well or not. Let me just have this moment and
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  Speaker 4: be here with this salad, like singleness of mind. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm with my kids, let me put down my phone.
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  Speaker 4: I know how much time I have and I'll set
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  Speaker 4: an alarm. I have an hour and a half. Let
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  Speaker 4: me just be here with my kids instead of half here.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest thing that I try
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  Speaker 4: to do, is to really just whatever I'm doing, let
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  Speaker 4: me be fully engaged with that and fully able to
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  Speaker 4: disengage the moment's over, and not engage until the moment
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  Speaker 4: it starts.
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  Speaker 3: And There's been many.
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  Speaker 4: Times where I'm like, have a speaking engagement at an
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: event and I'm sitting in a hot tub. This is
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: recently someone came up to like, aren't you the speaker
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  Speaker 4: on stage in fifteen minutes?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sitting in the hot tow to baby suit.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, and I still have five more
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  Speaker 4: minutes before I need the time. I need to be
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  Speaker 4: prepared to be on that stage. So I'm able to
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  Speaker 4: do that now, to forget about what's ahead of me.
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  Speaker 4: It's coming, That moment will come. But while I'm here,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you eckhart Toll, would love you that live in
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  Speaker 1: the moment. Yes, live in the moment. Well, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say a little editorial.
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  Speaker 2: But because we're so alike, it's amazing to me that
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  Speaker 2: when I listen to you, I have a sauna, a
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  Speaker 2: fire infrared sauna. It's the first thing I do every morning,
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  Speaker 2: after I shower and you know, get ready, I head
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  Speaker 2: out to my sauna and it's.
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  Speaker 1: In a special little place.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I also have a hyperbaric chamber, which that's a whole
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: other little indulgence that I got. But the first thing,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: in the most important priority in the morning is that sauna.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm so happy to hear what you said about that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: And then as far as octrophogy, you know, and intermittent fashion.
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  Speaker 2: I really believe that if you can just wait, not
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  Speaker 2: eat until you know, let's say your first meal is
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: at eleven or twelve, said one, But I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know if I could make one.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: But but you know, at least let your body rest
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: so that it gets rid of those zombie cells. And
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: because your mitochondria, people don't realize that the mitochondria are
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  Speaker 2: the key to your health.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Cellular health is the key to your health.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: So if your mitochondria are lazy or tired or dead
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever, then you are going to obviously feel that
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: that negativity from reactions. So we didn't get into the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: into the microbiome. That's a whole other subject and AI
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: which I need to have you back on because we're
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: running out of time, but I do I do want
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: to say that if everybody, everybody listening today has learned something,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: it's this whole mantra that you just mentioned. I'd love
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: to know what your mantras, but I'm not going to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: ask you. That's too personal, but I can pretty well
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: predict what it is and maybe offline you'll you'll share
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  Speaker 2: it with me. That whatever it is, I know that
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: it's it's consistent with who you are and your value system.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: And this is what people need to hear.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: They need people like you who are inspiring and and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: it's really all about the basics. I mean what you
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: just described are you know, there's nothing complex about it.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And it's really sad to me. Like you said in
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: one of your articles that too bad people turn to
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  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical drugs. You know, as soon as they have a cold,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: they run to get an antibiotic. Why not just use
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: nature and let the body do its miracles and try
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: to heal itself. Like you said, allow your kids to
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: have a fever and you know, get get through that
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: because that's your immune system telling you it's trying to.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Get rid of something bad, toxic.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: And when you get to the other side, after you
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: go through the state, the fever stage, you're going to
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: be that much stronger. But you don't need a drug
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: to take you there. That's actually just chemicals. And the
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: other thing I wanted to address that you said is
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  Speaker 2: with people with food that when you eat meat, always
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: go for grass fed and grass finish.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna eat beef, don't ever buy a regular.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Like because they're just tainted with all the bad things,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: the hormones that get into the water supply, the water
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: supply itself, all the grains that they're fed and make
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: you fat, and like you said, the carbohydrate side. And
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: then the other thing is well same with fish. You know,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: buy wild caught fish, don't buy don't buy farm fish.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And when you go to buy eggs, buy pasture raised.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: If you can buy regenerative, that's even better. So a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: lot of this, Dell is about discernment. It's about knowing
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: what the choices are and then discern you know, having
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the discernment to make those choices. So I don't think
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: there's anything complex about living a healthy life as long
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: as you know, you know, you're curious enough to know
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: what questions to ask and get the right information.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I just have enjoyed this so much.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I hope you have, and we will have you back
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: because now we've done two interviews together, but there's still so.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Much more terrain to cover.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: There is one very special invitation I have for you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to put this out there right now
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: because I want you to you and I to talk offline.
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  Speaker 1: But we're starting doctor Goldman. You know, doctor Goldman from
• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: So Robert Goldman and Ron Klatt started a form and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: you know what the success of that organization has been. Well,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: now he's the Midas Touch, but he and Rob Fletcher,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: who's his head of business development and has been with
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: him for thirty years, have asked me to be their
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: vice president of business development for a new venture called
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Longevity Masters Global. And this is going to be like
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  Speaker 2: the Aspen Institute of Longevity. That's the easiest way for
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  Speaker 2: me to describe it. What I'd like to do is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: if you would send me your email, I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: invite you to be on our advisory board. It's going
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  Speaker 2: Brain tap is well that's my attempt at meditation is
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  Speaker 2: we have doctor Well, I won't go into all the people.
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  Speaker 2: I can do that with you offline, but I just
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: want you to know that it's a very very special
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  Speaker 2: honor and I would really be honored to have you
• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: So I will send Sarafina. She has my email, your assistant,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: So could you just send me your email and then
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: we can talk one on one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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