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Spoiled Teen Thinks She Can Get Away With Murder · The conspiracy

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: This is twenty year old Devon Howard. Devon is sitting
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: in a cold interrogation room alongside his three co accomplices
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: due to their suspected involvement in the brutal shooting and
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: murder of twenty seven year old Andrew Jennichek Coincidentally, all
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  Speaker 1: four claimed that they had no involvement in the crime
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  Speaker 1: whatsoever and in fact don't seem to take the situation
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: seriously at all.
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  Speaker 2: Where did you pick her up?
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  Speaker 3: At?
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  Speaker 2: Relaxed?
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  Speaker 3: Okay sospired? Okay, I was involved in the murder of
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  Speaker 3: some somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the time is right here.
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  Speaker 1: What the group doesn't realize at this time is that
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Andrew's murder was fully recorded on multiple security cameras and
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  Speaker 1: shows a man heading out of nineteen year old Aliceavolved
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: as his car before killing Andre. Even more disturbing is
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  Speaker 1: that the same vehicle would drive over Andrew's lifeless body
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  Speaker 1: before fleeing the scene. Alexis Alas, a bystander at the scene,
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  Speaker 1: would hear the gunshot go off and rush over to
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  Speaker 1: Andrew to perform CPR, while her friend Alyssa called nine
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  Speaker 1: one one.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff, come nine on one. What is the address of
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  Speaker 3: the emergency. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just with the corner. It's like Sheridan in twentieth
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  Speaker 5: some guy just got shot and they took off in
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  Speaker 5: a silver two door Pontiac and he's on the ground.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, fa you sound.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see the person that shot him?
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  Speaker 5: Did you see the person with a gun? I like
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  Speaker 5: to answer my question.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see the.
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  Speaker 5: Person with the gun? She said it looked like a
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  Speaker 5: little Mexican dude.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and it was just the one mail in that
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  Speaker 3: vehicle or did she see anyone else?
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  Speaker 5: He got into a pass Oh, the passenger seat of
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  Speaker 5: the cars. Okay, he's hitting the chest. He got in
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  Speaker 5: the chests, almostisking him over to you. He's not hang
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  Speaker 5: on his operating up.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Andrew would pass away within minutes. Even more unsettling
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  Speaker 1: is that the same car model would be seen at
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  Speaker 1: a local gas station later that night, where everyone inside
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  Speaker 1: would happily buy snacks, joke and laugh as if nothing
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  Speaker 1: had happened just hours prior. The footage inside the gas
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  Speaker 1: station would identify the occupants of the vehicle as a
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  Speaker 1: nineteen year old Alicia Valdez, twenty year old Caleb Vigil
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  Speaker 1: and twenty year old Devon Howard Lopez. While painting these
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  Speaker 1: three out to be killers just based on their car
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  Speaker 1: make is clearly premature. It's enough evidence for police to
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  Speaker 1: file a warrant for the arrest of the three suspects
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  Speaker 1: so they can bring them in for questioning to try
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  Speaker 1: and determine if the bunch had any involvement in Andrew's death.
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  Speaker 1: What makes this case so interesting is the amount of
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  Speaker 1: blatant lies and misinformation that would come out during these interrogations.
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  Speaker 1: You would think that at least one of the suspects
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  Speaker 1: would feel guilty and confess, but what everyone involved would
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  Speaker 1: fabricate their story and lie to lessen their perceived role
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  Speaker 1: in the crime. But at this point, the police have
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  Speaker 1: yet to apprehend any suspects. Their only lead is a
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  Speaker 1: lifeless body sprawled on the pavement and two shaken witnesses
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  Speaker 1: who made the nine one one call. Police start by
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  Speaker 1: questioning Alexis, the witness who call the cops. Remember this
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  Speaker 1: is an interview and not an interrogation, as currently Alexis
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  Speaker 1: is considered a witness rather than a suspect, but there
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  Speaker 1: is something suspicious about her that the detectives want to clarify.
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  Speaker 1: Three years earlier, Alexis was charged as an accessory to
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  Speaker 1: murder after her boyfriend shot and killed one of his
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  Speaker 1: friends from the vehicle she was driving. The detective leading
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  Speaker 1: the interview, Nathan Gierdis, would discover this information during a
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  Speaker 1: brief preparation period prior to the interview and is curious
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  Speaker 1: as to if maybe she had more to do with
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  Speaker 1: Andrew's murder than she was letting on.
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  Speaker 4: We pulled up, we parked in the back parking lot.
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  Speaker 6: My friend got out to go into the dispensary. Sitting
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  Speaker 6: on my phone playing on Facebook. Heard the shot. Thought
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  Speaker 6: it was a firework for a second, so I looked
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  Speaker 6: up and saw the victim face down on the floor
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  Speaker 6: and the shooter.
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  Speaker 4: There's a silver Pontiac in front.
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  Speaker 6: Of the victim, and the shooter was in front of
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  Speaker 6: the car, still kind of standing by the victim's body
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  Speaker 6: with the gun pointed at him, and then got back
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  Speaker 6: into the Pontiac on the passenger side.
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  Speaker 4: They hesitated for a minute which way they were.
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  Speaker 6: Going to pull off, but like they were trying not
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  Speaker 6: to hit him.
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  Speaker 4: They kind of looked around the parking lot to see
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  Speaker 4: if anyone saw it. I was kind of trying to
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  Speaker 4: duck as much as possible.
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  Speaker 6: I got out of the car once I saw it
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  Speaker 6: they were gone, ran up to him.
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  Speaker 4: I said, are you hit? He said yes, Please help me.
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  Speaker 6: Caught nine one one. Let him know there's an ambulance
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  Speaker 6: on the way. Sounded like he was kind of crying.
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  Speaker 6: He wasn't saying anything else. After two minutes, the crime stopped.
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  Speaker 6: So about to check for your pulse? There was no
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  Speaker 6: PULSEGNI all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Take note of alexisis posture when discussing the shooting. She's
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  Speaker 1: leaned in towards the officer and seems comfortable, showing little
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  Speaker 1: signs of resistance. This language presents truthfulness on her behalf,
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  Speaker 1: so it's unlikely she feels any guilt, which likely means
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  Speaker 1: that her recollection of events is indeed accurate to what
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  Speaker 1: she believed happened.
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  Speaker 4: So you nothing you firstly need that catches your attention
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  Speaker 4: as a show. Okay, are you familiar with the guns?
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  Speaker 6: That's what I'm approbation for. I was dating and guy
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  Speaker 6: for three weeks. He asked for a ride and Sean
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  Speaker 6: kills somebody at the king Supers with shirt and helped
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  Speaker 6: him twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: So you've heard him into a laugh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's my favor from the alount.
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  Speaker 2: That's a tremendous look.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, get urge.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, accessory to the crime. F for it.
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  Speaker 2: How is make you feel?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's it was for an.
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  Speaker 6: I was glad I was able to react like texts
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  Speaker 6: and didn't react like that would do with my case
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  Speaker 6: at the same time, I'm not my po and everyways
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  Speaker 6: writing to my heart.
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  Speaker 4: But he did by alone.
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  Speaker 2: He knew somebody who was alway.
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  Speaker 4: Just being around it, being around the situation in a fault. No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: This interview clearly showcased the responses suspects make when dealing
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  Speaker 1: with discomfort. We could physically see her subtle movement patterns
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  Speaker 1: and how they coincided with certain emotions. Alexis was feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Her body language makes sense. She felt uncomfortable while discussing
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  Speaker 1: her own criminal history, which is completely reasonable. However, when
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  Speaker 1: discussing a crime she had no part in, her demeanor
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  Speaker 1: changed significantly, with an open posture and willingness to answer
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  Speaker 1: every question, and with this we should be now more
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  Speaker 1: prepared to analyze the interrogation of a lesson. It's in
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  Speaker 1: suspect late on in this video. Following this interview, police
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  Speaker 1: would continue their hunch to find the whereabouts of the
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  Speaker 1: three inside the suspected vehicle, and it wouldn't take them
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  Speaker 1: long at all. Just a few hours later, at four am,
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  Speaker 1: an officer spotted a vehicle closely resembling the one described
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  Speaker 1: by Alexis driving recklessly and pulled it over. It quickly
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  Speaker 1: became clear that this was no ordinary traffic stop.
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  Speaker 8: Him, Hi, play off to a wy different.
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  Speaker 1: Please, you can't turn left there?
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  Speaker 3: Oh I can't know.
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  Speaker 8: It said, There's a big sign up there that says
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  Speaker 8: do not turn left. You don't have a front play
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  Speaker 8: Either's it up in the window?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, my thing, it's broken, So I gotta get.
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  Speaker 8: A new one that's actually holding the bracket.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, gotcha.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, do you have your license registration, insurance man?
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  Speaker 10: Okay, at least this, Alicia, gotta have your step out
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  Speaker 10: for a second.
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  Speaker 8: Don't grab anything with you, Okay, just step on out
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  Speaker 8: for me. If you have to put your hands mand
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  Speaker 8: your back. You got a warrant, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Why why do you have a warrant?
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  Speaker 3: You probably know that better than I do.
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  Speaker 2: But we're gonna do some research and.
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  Speaker 8: Say exactly what it is. Yeah, they put out a
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  Speaker 8: felony warn out for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have anything on you I need to
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  Speaker 2: know about?
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  Speaker 9: I don't.
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  Speaker 8: All right, if you wanna watch them, I'll pattim down
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  Speaker 8: real quick. I'm just gonna set you on the curb. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: you just put your walle on the top, man, I'll
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  Speaker 8: give it back to you a second. Okay, go ahead,
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  Speaker 8: just put them right behind.
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  Speaker 9: You're not in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to jail. You're not getting arrested right now,
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  Speaker 3: all right, just.
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  Speaker 8: Get patch you down real cook, and you canna put
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  Speaker 8: you phone in your pocket, the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: As your partner.
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  Speaker 8: You're not going to jail. You're not getting handcuffs.
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  Speaker 11: I'm just doing this for while.
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  Speaker 8: You're gonna be sitting behind us.
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  Speaker 11: Okay, Okay, anything you hold earn your pockets, you know
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  Speaker 11: about perfect.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, you can go have a seat with them. Oka
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  Speaker 10: is your goldbone? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: At this very moment, the officer would discover a pistol
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  Speaker 1: inside the vehicle. Caleb had just stated there were no
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  Speaker 1: guns inside the vehicle just and it's earlier, so the
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  Speaker 1: officer quickly places Caleb under arrest. So they can sefely
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  Speaker 1: investigate this increasingly tense situation.
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  Speaker 8: Stand up man, stand up, charlick, minder be they're gonna
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  Speaker 8: tell me there's a gun in the seat next to you?
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  Speaker 8: What you're gonna tell me that you're gonna try to
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  Speaker 8: leave a gun on the seat when you left? It'd
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  Speaker 8: be nice to know ow in a pocket.
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  Speaker 11: Full of bullets.
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  Speaker 8: How about this, I'm about to get the car, officer,
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  Speaker 8: I have a gun on me, right?
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  Speaker 9: What's that?
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  Speaker 11: One more person? They're all hooked? Did you let them
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  Speaker 11: know that this is in the car? U s C
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  Speaker 11: C Y nine mil.
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  Speaker 1: All four would be arrested following the discovery of Caleb's pistol. However,
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  Speaker 1: throughout the entire process, Alicia, the owner of the car,
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  Speaker 1: would stay earily optimistic, as if she hadn't yet connected
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  Speaker 1: the dots that her arrest was related to Andrew's murder.
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  Speaker 2: To stay right there for.
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  Speaker 12: Let's have a see over here in this plock chair you.
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  Speaker 4: Could possibly find might really appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: Now that the suspects have finally been secured, detectives would
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  Speaker 1: begin the process of individually interrogating all four suspects, with
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  Speaker 1: separate preparation and planning made for each interrogation and attempts
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  Speaker 1: to get as many differing stories in general information as possible.
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  Speaker 1: They would begin with Alicia Valdez, who was allegedly the
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  Speaker 1: driver of the vehicle. They sit her in an open
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  Speaker 1: room with a large TV to her left and a
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  Speaker 1: digital clock behind. This is drastically different from the cold,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: empty room seen earlier in this video. This is done purposefully.
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  Speaker 1: This room is meant to feel welcoming and open. The
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  Speaker 1: table creates a subconscious comforting barrier between the suspect and
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  Speaker 1: the detectives, something that's absent in many more aggressive interrogations.
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  Speaker 1: The objective is to get Alicia to feel comfortable and
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  Speaker 1: willing to speak to the detectives. Remember, at this point,
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  Speaker 1: Alicia knows very little about what evidence the cops have.
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  Speaker 1: She has no idea that everything was recorded on CCTV,
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  Speaker 1: and they know that her car was there. The plan
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  Speaker 1: is to set a trap that prevents Alicia from denying
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  Speaker 1: that she was at the scene. So the more willing
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  Speaker 1: she is to talk at the beginning, the better. That's
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  Speaker 1: why they start the questioning off lightly, but it'll ramp
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  Speaker 1: up in no time at all.
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  Speaker 2: What's more, he's over here if you want to you're right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's nice.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier, the detectives offer her water to immediately try to
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  Speaker 1: appear friendly and form a bond. People are much more
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  Speaker 1: likely to tell a friend something than they are a stranger,
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  Speaker 1: so this is an extremely important step. You'll notice this
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  Speaker 1: friendly demeanor slowly fades and changes as the interrogation continues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you living at right now?
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  Speaker 4: Kind of a bit of everywhere?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, in my car, in your car?
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  Speaker 12: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Keep this fact in mind for later on in the interrogation,
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  Speaker 1: as the detectives will use it to prove she was
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  Speaker 1: at the scene later on.
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  Speaker 2: We're in the car with you today. It's your car, right,
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  Speaker 2: How long have you own that car?
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  Speaker 4: I about that car for I believe about six.
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  Speaker 2: Months, So six months. About where did you get I.
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  Speaker 4: Bought it from a public option down in Colorado Springs?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you have keys to the car? Have you
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  Speaker 2: given your keys to anybody else? No?
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  Speaker 4: The only ones that were They're the ones that were
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  Speaker 4: in the car.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So when you bought the car, there was one
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  Speaker 2: set of keys.
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  Speaker 4: And then I had another maid. But they're together, they're
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  Speaker 4: on the scene.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This is a simple question, and it should have a
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  Speaker 1: definitive answer based on what she's just the facts that
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  Speaker 1: the only two keys are in her possession, there's no
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  Speaker 1: reason for her to be unsure who has access to
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  Speaker 1: the car. She's deflecting, so.
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  Speaker 2: You stay, you've been kind of homeless here recently?
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  Speaker 3: Time?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where else have you been?
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  Speaker 3: To stand?
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes with gentlemen and the yellow I'm not yellow green
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  Speaker 4: out there?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll talk about feels was in the car with
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  Speaker 2: some time.
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  Speaker 4: My boyfriend and another young.
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  Speaker 3: Woman at all.
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  Speaker 2: Who's your boyfriends? Where'd you meet me?
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  Speaker 1: It's your friends if you haven't noticed already, Alicia is
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  Speaker 1: extremely nervous. We're ten minutes into this interview and her
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  Speaker 1: leg hasn't stopped bouncing up and down the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: She's also been moving around in her chair and avoiding
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  Speaker 1: eye contact while answering very simple questions. Even without the
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  Speaker 1: evidence that they'd already collected beforehand, the detective this would
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  Speaker 1: likely already be convinced that she played a part in
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  Speaker 1: what happened. Now it's just about exploiting these weaknesses and
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  Speaker 1: extracting a confession using everything they know, and the process
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  Speaker 1: starts by establishing a Timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Who were the other two people in the car?
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  Speaker 4: Caleb? I met him through ritual friends too. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: really known him that long.
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  Speaker 2: What about the girl? Do you know her name?
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea who she is.
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  Speaker 2: When did you meet her just tonight? Where did you
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  Speaker 2: pick her up at?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because I don't know. I didn't like that.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Where were you at before you left to go pick
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  Speaker 2: this girl? Ups? Was Devon Wood there with you? So
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  Speaker 2: you were a few hours at Caleb's house? And then
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Caleb asked you to go pick this girl up?
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  Speaker 3: Is that right? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And you picked her up and you were headed back
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  Speaker 2: to Caleb's house when the police stopped you.
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  Speaker 4: Wed, we were headed back, but I slept up this
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  Speaker 4: and eleven don't streak which some drinks one offul cullbacks
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  Speaker 4: and hog down things okay.
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  Speaker 1: The detectives now have a story that Alicia is locked into,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that if anything she says contradicts this, they'll know
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  Speaker 1: she's lying and they can use it to trap her
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  Speaker 1: to put on more pressure. Alicia, however, is playing a
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  Speaker 1: game of her own and trying her best to dodge
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: questions and hide certain details from the cops, but she's
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  Speaker 1: fighting a losing battle and the cops know it.
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  Speaker 2: How long are you been staying at calebs House?
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  Speaker 4: Not really a lot.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get a sense of like every
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  Speaker 2: other night, every night, you know, five nights a week.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me an idea, maybe like one to two
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  Speaker 2: nights one two nights a week. What were you doing
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: today before you can work at calebs House?
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  Speaker 4: Mainly just hanging out with my boyfriend. He's trying to
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: keep me distracted off today.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's we all have stuff like that. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: where were you hanging out at?
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  Speaker 4: Really just everywhere is driving? But that was about it, relaxed,
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  Speaker 4: It's okay, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Inspired, Okay, but Alicia is all too aware that the
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  Speaker 1: final thing they did last night is exactly what police
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  Speaker 1: want to know about, and she absolutely cannot bring it up.
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  Speaker 2: Stayed anywhere else since she come to Denver other than
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  Speaker 2: Caleb's or your car.
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  Speaker 4: I stayed at this one girl's house. I don't remember
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: her name.
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  Speaker 6: Like I said, I met her through mutual friends.
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  Speaker 7: That those friends that I did meet her through no
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  Speaker 7: longer really in contact.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how long ago is that you stayed at her house?
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  Speaker 2: A week ago? A week or something with you at
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: her house too.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, with all this is an extremely important statement. If
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: they can confirm that either devonfor Alicia was at the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: scene of the crime, they'll be able to lock both
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: of them into it. The detective immediately realizes the importance
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of this and forces her to double down on her statements.
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  Speaker 2: Now, has Devin been with you the entire time since
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you've been here in Denver and since you and he
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: stayed with you at her house, and he's been staying
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: with you in your car or at Caleb's this whole
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: time up until tonight. Okay, So has Devin been in
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the car with you every time you've been out in
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  Speaker 2: the car?
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  Speaker 1: Happily, Now, on top of the information from before, the
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  Speaker 1: detectives know that wherever her car was, both her and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Devon had to have been there too. This is where
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the second stage of the interrogation begins. They're aware she's guilty,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: have an extremely detailed timeline of events, and know she's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: feeling extremely uncomfortable. Now. The plan is simple. They want
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: her to give up as much information about the actual
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: murder and the other suspects as possible so they can
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: easily implicate everyone else that's waiting for their interrogation, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: so the detectives take a short break. When they sit
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: back down, they plan to switch gears completely. They're going
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to heavily apply the pressure and attempt to extract a
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: full confession.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you all. It's pretty apparent to me you're being
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: truthful about things. It's also a parent that there's some
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: stuff you don't want to talk about. But we've been
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: sitting here talking for a while. I genuinely like you.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I think you're a good kid and welcome me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You're a kid, well, I mean I am a kid.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're younger and my daughter. Okay, you're up here
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: from the Springs. You've had some stuff in your life,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: but now you're up here in Denver hanging with these
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: guys that you've got, you know, some histories, some rough history,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: not your kind of history. Right, you're kind of out
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of your element here, all right. I don't know that
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: you've got yourself any trouble other than the people you're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: hanging with. But these other people have gotten you into
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of trouble.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Who Caleb, for one, you got me in a lot
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: of trouble.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You just told me we spent here, spent a long time.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: You were very clear that no one else has been
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: driving your car for the last week that you and Devon,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: or you and Devon and Cabo have been in your car.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: There's a few random people you don't know, but even
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: when those random people are in the car, you and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Devon are in the car, and that's You're staying with
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: that pretty much, okay.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: It's a common tactic to give a suspect an excuse
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: for what they've done. In this case, the detective says
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he genuinely believes she's a good kid and has just
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: been swept along in what's happened. It's likely he'll also
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: tell her at some point soon that if she helps
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: them out, they might be able to give her a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: much lighter sentence. It's also important to note that he's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: still trying to keep a friendly demeanor to her, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the reason for this hasn't changed. If he starts to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: get angry at her now, she might become closed off
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and refuse to tell them anything. If anything, he's even
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: trying to seem fatherly, choosing to mention his daughter and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: calling her a kid, something that could even be a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: response to her saying her father passed away when she
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was younger. However, all of this is leading up to something.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: They're finally going to reveal why she's really there and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: exactly what they know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So I remember the day that rain was snowing, real
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: bad weather. That was Friday, that night, the night before
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: all that snow and rain. Do you remember where you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: were that night?
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Say? Could not tell you?
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Do you remember being in a dark parking lot that night?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, look at me, your car at the scene of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a murder. Someone got out of your car, shot someone
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and killed them, got back into your car and drove away.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You just told me that you were driving your car
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: all week. You need to tell me the truth.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't recall.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You don't recall.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: We have it on video. I know that the person
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: who shot this guy is a guy. I know it
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't you. I know it was your car. You tell
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: me you're the only one driving your car, So you
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: were driving the car.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I don't recall being in wherever
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: you're saying I was.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Picture yourself in this situation. If you've just been told
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that police believe you were at the scene of the crime.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Would your first response be I don't recall. Anybody innocent
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: would be shocked to hear this information and do everything
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: they could, declare their name and distance themselves from the crime.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Alicia was there. Now the detectives are more certain of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: this than ever, and they're starting to get frustrated.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Honestly, you need to be honestly here.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: No, you're not.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I do know you were driving the car. Driving the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: car couldn't make you an accessory to murder. If you're
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: gonna sit here and tell me you don't remember, no
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: one in the world, no one. You put yourself in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: my position. Okay, I know you were driving the car.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I know your car was there because I got a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: video of it. Don't put yourself in my position. Do
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you think anybody in the world is going to believe
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that you don't remember that?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I just like I said, I drive everywhere, and yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you would have remembered this.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: This is a chilling line from the detective, and you
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: can clearly see it almost startles Alicia. The sight of
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that man being shot will be burned into her mind,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and being so clearly reminded of it would be jolting,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to say the least. In fact, the detectives didn't even
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: realize exactly how traumatizing it might have been until just
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: moments later.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Tonight, Caleb had a gun on him. Did you know
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: he had a gun?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: No, because I don't just pat everybody down that comes something.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you know he owns a gun, right you're staying
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: in his place, you drive with him every day every day. Well,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I mean so he probably carries a gun with him
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: for protection in the parts of town.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Well, really, I don't. I don't really like seeing guns
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: like guns because of what happened to my dad.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Have you seen him with the gun before?
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Not really know, because I don't pay attention what.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Happened to your dad with a gun?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: He was murdered.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He was murdered with the gun. So this was probably
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: pretty traumatic for you seeing someone murdered with a gun.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I did not see anybody.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Happened right in front of your car.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Notice how quickly the detective hones in on her father's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: murder and how similar that may have been to this incident.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: He's looking for any opening to make her feel uncomfortable
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and guilty, and as horrible as it may sound, This
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is about as good as you can get. So the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: detectives take one last break to think about their final
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: move and come back with the last and possibly most
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: damning piece of evidence of all.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: MT's water or something.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Even On the other side of this is your dad.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: On the other side of this whole thing, you haven't.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a family member murder, so you've
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: seen the other side of this.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Well not really. Oh, they left, they did.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: How'd that feel? Did they catch him? And then?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, the way I see it, its left. Go
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: ahead and live it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: No, that's not all right. You don't believe that when
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you got to stop tonight there was a gun in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: your car. Did you see the gun that they took out.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Of your car?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't see it. But they took the gun
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: out of your car. That was the gun that was
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: used for this man. Improved that too. That's an easy one.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: The gun that was in your car. Oh, I'm sure
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: it was. Yes, I can prove that. That's easy. The
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: bullet that we dug out of this man's chest at
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the autopsy came from that gun that just came out
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of your car. That's back to your car was in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the parking lot where he was shot. You tell me
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: how did the gun gun murder demand get into your car.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: The detectives get very little other information out of her
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: from this point onwards, but they've already gotten more than enough.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: They've heavily implicated her in the crime, and it sounds
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: as though DeVaughn had to have been there with her too.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It's at this point that we'll take a break from
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the suspects interrogation, as unfortunately, convicting the criminals is only
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: one half of these officers' jobs, and while all of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this is going on, another team of detectives and officers
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: are tasked with the brutal job of breaking the news
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: of Andrew's death to his family. Andrew's girlfriend, Jessica, was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the only one awake, so in the middle of the night,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: she'd get a knock on the door from a group
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of detectives.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: All right, Jessica, I appreciate you answering my questions, so
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I have some afree you. It's that I'm just going
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: to come out and say it. Andrew's dead. Joking. I'm
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: not joking. Andrew's dead.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: What happened?
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: He was shot and he died in the parking lot.
• 27:14
  Speaker 13: Good you're you're the first person that was able to
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: get a hold of and I know that this is
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: hard to hear.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: This clip is devastating, as it seems like Jessica had
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely no idea of any of the events that transpired
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: earlier that night. As far as she was aware, Andrew
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: was simply going out to get them barbecue dinner. However,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: as sad as this is, detectives have to consider the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: possibility of Andrew having some sort of connection to the group.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: For all they know, this could have been a drug
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: deal gone wrong or some other illegal activity that caused
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the shooting. With this in mind, detectives would bring Jessica
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to the station where they could conduct a formal interview
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to determine if Andrew had any prior connection to the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: group that killed him. While preparing for the interview, a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: strange discovery would be made. Police were given an anonymous
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tip that Jessica's own brother had been planning to kill Andrew.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: The two had supposedly a recurring issue with one another
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that had gotten progressively worse. This is awfully coincidental and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: something detectives need to get to the bottom of.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Just how did they, Yeah, and then I saw the
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: picture of him on there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: I bet that was pretty wrong.
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: So I received information going back a year, maybe two years,
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: your brother had had threatened Andrew.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he didn't threaten him directly. It was indirectly to me,
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: meaning I was driving to work one morning and we
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: were having a fight, and that's when he really unnerved me.
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: So I told Andrew. And then Andrew wanted to take
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: it to the police, and the police said, your best
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: option would be just to move away from the situation.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So he did what was said.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: It was obviously fairly egregious.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: If basically it was just probably something to the effect,
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: I'll just take.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Him out too.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: What do you think he meant by that?
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, well, the first thought to my head is
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: to kill him, you know, taking someone out.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Well, these comments from Jessica's brother are disturbing. Jessica doesn't
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: seem too bothered by it now, but at the time
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they took it seriously enough to move houses just to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: get away from him. But the detective can't just take
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Jessica's word for this. Luckily, there are some simple ways
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that he might be able to prove if he was
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: involved or not.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Kind of cards your brother.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Pathfinder?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: What color is that green?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Like a dark forced green? Does your brother have access
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: to firearms or anything like that?
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: He's not allowed to?
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: Why not?
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: He has charged like against him for past stupidity, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: I don't know all those crimes because I didn't bother
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: to try to talk to him about them.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: The description of his cars don't match up with the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: one on CCTV at all, And if he's not allowed
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: access to any firearms, then it's very unlikely that he
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was their guy. However, before they wrap up the interview,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Jessica asks a final devastating question, Can I.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Just ask me one question?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Can I ask you like kind of like where he
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: was shut? Just because his mom told me that.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: When he was.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: Shut, the witness who saw it ran to him, stayed
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: with the minby pads.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: He was shot in the chest.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, nobody deserves that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: From all accounts, from what he's been saying, it seems
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like it was a very good, very good guy.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This question echoed in the detectives' heads for the rest
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of this case. It really seemed like Andrew was a nice,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: peaceful man who was brutally killed that night. Detectives would
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: go on to interview Jessica's brother as well, and managed
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to fully clear his name as a suspect. Caleb Devaughan
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and Alicia had no connection to Andrew. This was a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: cold blooded murder. This case had just taken a far
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: more sinister turn, and detectives had to find justice for
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not only Andrew, but for the rest of his family.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: After Alicia's interrogation, they would bring in Caleb, the man
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: who they at this point believe actually pulled the trigger.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But Caleb wasn't planning on making things easy. His interrogation
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: lasts just four minutes but opens up an entirely new
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: side to this investigation, filled with dozens of shocking new
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: pieces of evidence, all sparked by just one tiny thing
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that he said.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: All right, jib, it's been a long night.
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: Huh Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: If you have undetective John the odium detective here with Denver,
• 32:35
  Speaker 13: and I want to talk to you about your traffic stop,
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: your friends in the gun that you had on you tonight.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: What's your home address to fifty for eightfold. If you
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: want to talk to me about what happened, your answers yes.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk to me, you should
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: say no.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I thought a little.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: The interrogation ended here, but unbenown to Caleb, he gave
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: away a crucial piece of evidence, his address, and it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: took police no time at all to obtain a search warrant.
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: Police open up the door, Police opened the door, Step up,
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: What else is in here?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: This is my house, this house. If you're in here,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: make yourself no dude, now, police department, come out, Come
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: out with your heads up.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That was one of Caleb's friends, and he's one of
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the three keys inside this apartment that would unlock the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: case for the detectives. The second was this giant stock
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of nine millimeters bullets that perfectly matched the bullet found
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: lodged inside Andrew's body. And if that wasn't damning enough,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: there was one more piece of evidence inside that was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the most shocking of all, but the police hadn't even
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: realized it yet. Instead, they wanted to have a quick
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: conversation with the man they found inside. It seems that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Caleb was known to this guy as Modello and Devon
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: as Cilencio. Often friends of suspects like this tend to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: keep their mouths shut out of trust, but this time,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: well see for yourself.
• 34:23
  Speaker 15: Adell got out of the car and guests to go
• 34:25
  Speaker 15: love this dude, do drop the wallet on the ground,
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: deloaded onto somebody, I guess. So whoever was in the car,
• 34:34
  Speaker 15: I guess Celensio has just told me that they saw
• 34:37
  Speaker 15: him get back up or whatever and they ran him over,
• 34:38
  Speaker 15: so they drove off.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: That's all I know.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: This was everything detectives could have asked for, But what
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: came next was their most haunting discovery of all. Inside
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Caleb's house was a receipt from seven to eleven, dated
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: just minutes after the murder, proving that Caleb, Devon and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Alicia were indeed the ones laughing at the gas station
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: after the murder. All of these events transpired over twenty
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: four hours, but police had left out one crucial suspect,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Devon aka Cilensio, and it was for good reason. Police
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: knew devonn was desperate to keep his girlfriend Alicia from
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: getting charged, so if they could use that against him,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they might be able to get him to admit to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the murders. The mounting pressure on Devon became so intense
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that he started confessing to other crimes and robberies he
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: had committed in the past.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I'll tell he's tried on me and Kalb together. I've
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: done crimes before.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, what you're about to witness is a twenty one
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: year old talking himself into over three hundred years in prison.
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Devin him? Do you go by Devon?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: I'm probably going.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: To secure that up.
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: So if I do, I apologize for.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: In no word, but so Devon.
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: Like I said, my name is Mark's version. I'm a
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: investigator at the Chefson County Attorney's Office. You know in
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: Nate right, you know we're both cops. Okay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: From my it's been my understanding that when.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: They make contact with you this afternoon, that you were
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: willing to talk to talk to us again? Is that true?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: To say?
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: Okay to an extent, Okay, I just like to start
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: and make sure you understand your rights, because one of
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: the things I want to do in this room is
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: violate your rights.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You have these rights, and I think.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: They're important to you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: So you know where you're at, yeah, well kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: all right, I know these songs do. But I want
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: to make sure that you understand what we're doing where
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: you're at Film police station. Okay, all right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Let's Stadi in color who's a president? True.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: The detectives are being perhaps even more careful at the
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: beginning of this interrogation than they were in Alicia's. They
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: want to confirm that DeVaughn is of sound mind right now,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: leaving the defense absolutely no opportunity to invalidate this piece
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of evidence in court, leave any room for error, because
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: they know he's likely only here for one reason. To confess.
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: I'm into this investigation somewhat late, so I kind of
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: want to start out and ask why are we sitting
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: in this room?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Why are we here?
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: Fill me in.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I was involved in the murder of some somebody. Okay,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that's why.
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: That's why, So tell me about it, because there's the
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: reason that you want to talk about it, right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I just want to get my girl out of trouble.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: We had nothing to do with it, all, right, Like
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I said, I come in late today. Who's your girl
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: about it?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: The detective's plan worked perfectly. He's here to tell the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: cops everything in hopes that he can maybe get his
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: girlfriend out of trouble. But you can still clearly see
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: how on comfortable with this he is. As soon as
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: he's asked why he's here, he goes from sitting perfectly
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: still to dancing around in his chair, searching his pockets
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and leaning back away from the detectives. It doesn't matter
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: if he thinks this is the right thing to do.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: He still knows he's being checkmated and he's about to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: sentence himself to a lifetime in jail.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I want to get her out of trouble. Yeah, all right,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: he had nothing to do. He's not a criminal. She
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: didn't even been in jail before until now. Okay, was
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: she there? Yeah, she didn't know anything happen though. She
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: didn't have any hand in it at all. I was driving,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, I'm sure.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I said, I'm coming into this new. I
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: learned about this literally this morning. They asked me to
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: come in and kount of assist.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: So that's what I'll do.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: I favor walk me through, because if you want to
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: get her out out of the situations she's in, I understand.
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: I respect that, but I need to know what happens
• 39:00
  Speaker 16: walking through it. We were driving around honestly for night,
• 39:03
  Speaker 16: right around having fun. Yeah, we'd like to drive, it's fun.
• 39:07
  Speaker 16: Were listening to either.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Then we got head up, pulling to this parking lot,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and then from there, I don't really feel like I
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: need to speak on why not, because you guys already
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: have pretty much everything figured out. You guys know who.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: You guys know she did not pull.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: This r hear.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what matters. Sometimes I'm just here to get
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: her out of trouble. I'm not here to get anyone
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I was in trouble, said for myself obviously, right, Well,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I can tell you is no one knew that the
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: shooting was gonna happen. It was not planned, So it
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't planning. You know. I wasn't playing who planning on
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: driving to a parking lot shuit with some random white guy.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: We were planning on robbing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Them, Like I said, I wasn't planning on doing I.
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: Was Caleb planning on Robbin said.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna speak on that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: This is one of the detectives leading theories about what happened.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: They don't necessarily believe that they planned on murdering Andrew.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: They think that this was more likely a robbery gone wrong.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: They intended to just steal Andrew's money, but ended up
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: freaking out, shooting him and running him over to ensure
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he couldn't turn them into the cops.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: What makes you guys go and go at this kid,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: the kid that die. You know, he's not a kid,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: he's twenty seven, but he is to me true, Well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I can said the most. I didn't know. I don't know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I wasn't plan on anything happening to him. I don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: know happen to the guy shilling with something went off.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I'll drive up.
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: Okay, what happened? We need to know what happened?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Well, everyone knows you got shot.
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know that, but I'm trying to figure out
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: who shot him, and I knew somebody to tell me that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Well, that's not I'm not going to tell you anything
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: cause I'm sure you guys already know. Yeah. If you
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: guys can't figure that out, then there's something.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: Well, let me ask you this.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: When I was trying to, you know, shooting bull through,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I'll told you I was driving, right, I mean, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: mean can put the rest together. It's not up to me.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: But I guess I'm trying to understand. Is why I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: trying to understand the motive.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I no, I told you none to do that happen.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the damn car, so I obviously don't know.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Anything can happen if you drive him there, you put
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: him in that line. Unfortunately, that's how it looks, that
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: is how it happened.
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's nothing.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you. Nothing was lad.
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: Let me ask you this were you're just thinking it
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: was Caleb or do you even know what was Caleb?
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: To try and just to revolve get some money and
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: it's bad.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: We'll not prove.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: At this point, it's obvious that Devon's lawyer will have
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: told him clearly not to discuss anything that doesn't relate
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: directly to Alicia. He's only going to talk about anything
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that might help get her out of trouble. It's also
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: at this point that the detective realizes that he knows
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: that he's not going to get anything out of Devon
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: beyond that, So that's when he decides to do something
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: extremely clever. He's going to abuse the facts that Devon
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the only ones to get Alicia out of trouble and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: phrase his next question in a way that forces him
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to give up some vital information.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to speak on what like anything else
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: besides me Alicia.
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: Let me ask you this. Did you guys talk about it?
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: What do you mean, did you guys talk about it?
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: Did you and Caleb say hey, this is what we're
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: thinking about, because I'm trying to figure out did Alicia
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: should have one planning this?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: We Lisa had nothing to do with any of day.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: So how me and me? I'll tell he's of me
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and Caleb together have done cromics before.
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: Okay, I'm worried about this.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: One, this one right here, this is supposed to not
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: like that?
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: How was I supposed to go?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I said, I don't see him, need to get in
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: all that. It's not going to benefit me or her.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I don't see or him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: Right now, we're still trying to figure out her role
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: and if we can, if we can explain her role,
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: and the only there's only two p people that can
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: explain her role, you and Caleb. Caleb A talk to
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: us without us understanding the specifics of how this went
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: down and if her involvement or what her involvement was
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: in that, with some explicit to extend that we can
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: go back to a DA and say, hey, this is
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: what's going on. This person was honest, she didn't know
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: was going to go down. But I've got to know that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: But I've got to understand how it got planned. That
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: you understand, I have to have some type of specifics
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: to try to sell that if you want to try
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: to help or help her.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Put simply, if de Vaughn wants to get Alicia out
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of trouble and prove she didn't plan the murder, he
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: don't have to tell them exactly who did, solving the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: case for them on the spot. He's been checkmated because
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: no matter what story he tells them, from this point out,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: they've got the evidence to prove or disprove it. Their
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: entire plan was just to get him to talk, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what they've done. Now it's finally time they
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: heard the truth.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: That's why me your table, this all this food and
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: the mona.
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: Did you see the confrontation go down between Caleb and
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: this guy.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Looked like the white dude was attacking the person, honestly,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: but that's all the end of it. Right before do
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: bet shot?
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: Do you remember when you say the white dude.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Was attacking the other guy?
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: Could you describe it to.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Me and look like they were squared up and the
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: white dude Russian the other guy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: Let me ask you if I stood up would you
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: show me?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: M M.
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: If I stood up and I'm the white dude, would
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: you show me or you'd be let me be the
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: shooter and be the white dude. Would you do that?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: So I understand it. Give me the visit.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: So if you're the other dude, the white dude.
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: So the other guy, right, the white dude's.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: On a band like this, and he looked like you
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: squared up, So I run the third.
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: Le Okay, what's this guy doing?
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Running backwards and ask him I heard a ben a shot?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: Do you remember? Stand up again for me there? So
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: how close are they about?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Probably about this, maybe a little further, okay, and then
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: that's we heard a gun go off and the white
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: dude Russian?
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: So so the right two is closing that gap? Yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: so coming? Would they ever get right on top of
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: each other? So there's always a distance, Yeah, it's always
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: about so all right, Well both are okay? Did the
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: white ud have anything in his hand?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I kind of see. I saw his last interview. I
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: was looking for details. I was kind of confused on
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: what was going on.
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: Okay, all right, this guy, not the white dude. The
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: other guy hands to the other hands apart.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, he's fading like this of
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Taylor Duke backup, okay, and that's when the white Duki Russians.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming maybe he's trying to reach for the gun.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know, okay, Well that's when it was a
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: gun in the right hand. I can't remember, okay, but he.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: Had one hand up and the other hand back. Yeah,
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: that right, Yeah, Okay.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Getting a suspect to act out an incident is a
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: great way of proving they actually knew what happened. They
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: may be able to match the movements to the CCTV
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: footage or witness accounts, and a defense team will have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a hard time arguing that anything here could be missing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Turned from what Divan is saying, it seems as though
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: there was a struggle between Caleb and Andrew, where the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: shooter approached Andrew, who quickly tried to defend himself. It's
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: becoming increasingly obvious that this was intended to be a robbery,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: but when Andrew tried to fight back, it turned into
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a murder in the blink of an eye.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: So when these guys are in your winship, are they
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: across from each other like you're looking at the side.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Of each other. They're like this the person kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: like this good.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: Drop for me.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: There's been a white dudees a Chandra when the white
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: dude's stanny, they're most danny. White dude is closer to
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: me to be kind of like this, all.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: Right, So you're the driver, right, white dude's closer to
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: the front of the car.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of, he's all right.
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: So if you're looking, are you looking at his back?
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: You're looking at his sides, looking at his front kind
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: of like that, like this, where's the other guy?
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Right? I thought where he is?
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: I'm kidding, where's you at me?
• 46:52
  Speaker 9: Where's the other guy?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: They're like they're like that, literally and then with a
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: little more this way and I'm a little more back,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: so this.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: Way, Yeah, what are you see into this guy his front?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not paying things to him. I'm paying attention to
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: this guy, okay.
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: And you think you see him kind of rush.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: No, he did rush.
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: Okay, so he rushes, but not to the point where
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: they're on top of each other.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: No, I think they didn't get it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: The other person was back, okay, so this person's moving back.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: The arm up. They've been Backpedlin the whole time, mass
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: struggle goes up. Okay, tell me where Kill's arms are at.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not even.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Saying it with him again. It sounds as though as
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: soon as Andrew realized he was being robbed, he started
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to go on the offensive, forcing Caleb backwards. According to Devaon,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: he then tried rushing Caleb, which scared Caleb into shooting him.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: They're slowly closing in on the truth here, but not
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: quite there yet, which is why they're still trying to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: play some tricks on Devon to try and get everything
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: out of him. Devaon hasn't admitted that the shooter was Caleb,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: but notice how the detectives are consistently naming him as
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the shooter throughout the story. They're trying to get Devn
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to go along with it and agree or accidentally admitted himself,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: but he's not slipping up. However, the detectives are relentless
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and don't stop trying for another hour of tireless interrogation.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It's then that Devaughan finally makes a mistake, gonna.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Talk about I can't remember all that, Like he said,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: it's work on memory, memorizing.
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: No that'd care about it. I'd be an emotional conversation.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Not really, I mean, I mean, like, don't get me wrong,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't know to do so. I mean,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: it's fucked up. They just die cut on you. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: don't know what he kind of person needs or any
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: of that. But it didn't really strike me emotionally because
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I don't I have that many emotions. I used to
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: do much and much, so like he doesn't really, I mean,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I don't they have any emotions in your body except
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: for he's in sail for us. I think that he died,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: of course, because all the guy I'm.
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: Always peacefull dad was alis.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Would Caleb do? Yeah? Maybe showstly.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Imagine you're in this position. You're trying to hide the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: facts that your friend shot an innocent man, but the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: detectives have been taking that fact for granted for the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: past two hours. They've been using his name, asking questions
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: about details, and refusing to accept the facts that it
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: might not have been him. Eventually, you would internalize this
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: idea and forget that you even need to lie. That's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: what just happened to here, and it's why DeVaughn barely
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: even realizes that he's just confirmed that Caleb was in
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: fact the shooter. Of course, there were mountains of evidence
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: against him anyway, but now they have it straight from
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the source and a conviction will be easy. The detectives
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: now only have one last question. Was this really an
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: accident or had they planned this out as a murder
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: from minute one?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Remember what he said is panic. All are kind of
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: panics because, like I said, I didn't see it coming.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I don't like unexpected things like this happening because of
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: this situation exactly, you know, I mean, look at me now,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: an you're forces you're murdering. I didn't see it. I mean,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I do something, it's gonna be planned
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: out and it's gonna get done correctly. So I'm not
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: in the situation. That's why it's kind of pissed in
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: all panic because I ain't seen it about that happen.
• 50:25
  Speaker 14: If this is your deal and this is your plan,
• 50:28
  Speaker 14: you say you're playing a robbery, you've done We've already
• 50:30
  Speaker 14: talked about that. I'm not asking when dates, When just
• 50:32
  Speaker 14: this is your.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Your you're doing, It's not gonna be random like this.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be planned out, but yeah, and it's gonna
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: be on a person usually, So what calver this other
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: person recalling? What did pretty amateur hour? Right, huh pretty amateur?
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: What was this happen? Yeah? Yeah, well, like I said,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: it thought it wasn't even planned. So I mean, you
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: can't even I don't think amateur, me do our word?
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Just random? It wasn't happen ninety eight percent of the time.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm ross they're not. It's not random people, which is
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: why it made a mere day about this whole situation
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: because don't know who the hell this guy was civil
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: with the news here, but the noon always makes any
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: why dude does look like peach? So I don't know.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Well that's why I meredab about this can on this
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: food and the model.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Devaughan's main point ended up being that if he had
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: planned the murder, then they simply wouldn't have caught him,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: so it had to have been a spur of the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: moment decision, but the detectives didn't buy it, and in fact,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: this approach actually made things exponentially worse for Devon. The
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: interrogation ended shortly after, but the detectives decided to do
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: some further research into these other robberies. They ended up
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: connecting him and Caleb to multiple other serious incidents, including
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the robbery of a cell phone store the very next
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: day and an incident where they fired shots into a
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: pregnant woman's home. It was clear that they had been
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: planning multiple robberies and were using Caleb's gun as a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: method of intimidation to make money. As you could imagine,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: this didn't look good in court for any of them.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Devaun received the highest sentence. He was found guilty on
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: eighteen counts, including first degree murder, attempted murder, aggravated robbery,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and aggravated intimidation of a witness. He was sentenced to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: life in prison plus two hundred and seventy nine years.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Caleb also received a similar sentence of life plus one
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: hundred eighteen years. The fourth passenger in the car, Eternity Lopez,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: was also interrogated, but was found to be completely uninvolved.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: She was picked up after the murder, so it seems
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: like she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: She was not charged with the incident. But possibly worst
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: of all for Devon, his efforts in the interrogation room
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: failed to even help Alicia get off any lighter. She
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: was also found guilty in the murder of Andrew Jennichek
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility
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  Speaker 1: of parole.