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Ep. 312: Rut Fresh Radio 10/30/19 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three,
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  Speaker 1: d and twelve, and today in the show, we're back
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  Speaker 1: for another episode of our rut Fresh radio mini series
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  Speaker 1: in which we're getting the latest and greatest intel on
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  Speaker 1: what deer doing right now, the conditions that are present
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  Speaker 1: in how to kill a buck? All right, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx.
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  Speaker 1: We are here for another rut Fresh radio episode. This
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  Speaker 1: is our weekly mini series during the hunting season in
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  Speaker 1: which we chat with hunters from across the country about
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  Speaker 1: what's happening right now, how current conditions are impacting dear behavior,
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  Speaker 1: what the activity levels are, what the progress of the
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  Speaker 1: rut is, and then ultimately, how can we kill a
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  Speaker 1: buck right now? That's what we're in chat with all
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  Speaker 1: these different guys about Spencer, you know, is running the
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  Speaker 1: show as far as getting those interviews done, and he
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  Speaker 1: is with me. Now, what's the word, Spencer? Things cranking out? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: across the country, hunters are excited because of all time
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  Speaker 1: of year is late October. You can't go wrong. And
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  Speaker 1: then we also have a cold front coming in, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: my job gets even harder this time of year and
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  Speaker 1: for like the next three weeks because guys are tougher
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  Speaker 1: to track down. Everybody is in a tree stand, or
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  Speaker 1: somebody is helping a buddy blood trailer deer, or somebody
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  Speaker 1: is camping at some lodge where they don't have service.
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  Speaker 1: And so you can always tell when hunters from our
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  Speaker 1: podcast get more excited about the rut because they are
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  Speaker 1: harder to track down. Have you had to interview anyone
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  Speaker 1: in a tree stand yet? Like, is anyone called in
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  Speaker 1: from the tree? No. Over the four years of doing this,
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  Speaker 1: we've done a lot of interviews, like in vehicles on
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  Speaker 1: the way to a hunt, but we haven't done that yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think that should be your goal for this year
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  Speaker 1: is try to get someone to give you a from
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  Speaker 1: the tree report. That'd be good, that would uh, that
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  Speaker 1: would make season for unique for sure. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe you can get it in the field report from me.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be on the phone and then part way through
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  Speaker 1: a conversation, as I'm whispering to you, my target bucks
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  Speaker 1: gonna show up. And I'm gonna spook him. That would
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  Speaker 1: be part of the course with me. So maybe I
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  Speaker 1: should just keep that trend going, you know, or we
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  Speaker 1: could title it watch Mark Screw Another hunt up. Have
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  Speaker 1: you been out since our last chat? You did a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of South Dakota Hunt or something last time
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  Speaker 1: we talked. Anything since Um, I participated in Montana's rifle
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  Speaker 1: opener killed a mule deer in full velvet. Yet he
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  Speaker 1: was a stag buck cactus book jever term you prefer um,
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  Speaker 1: I think the technical term would be like cryptosism, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that, sorry to any
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  Speaker 1: biologists out there who would know otherwise. But he had
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  Speaker 1: UM two underdeveloped tests that never dropped, and so his
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  Speaker 1: testosterone would never rise, and he did not participate in
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  Speaker 1: the ruts. Uh. And it was just a really cool deer.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. It's it's kind of cool, uh, in particular
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  Speaker 1: for you to have shot that, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you've written a few articles about that. I remember seeing
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  Speaker 1: you talking about this and like a couple of years ago, right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with the odd ball deer, the ones
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  Speaker 1: that uh develop an extra main beam or the ones
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  Speaker 1: that never shed their velvet or the ones that never dropped,
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  Speaker 1: the rattlers, and I feel like I've covered all of
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  Speaker 1: those at some point in my writing career. So to
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  Speaker 1: see a deer like that in the field is is
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  Speaker 1: kind of surreal to be like, oh, I know what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here? Um, And so that was a fun hunt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Does something about those deer resonate with you? Can you
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  Speaker 1: relate to them in some way? A little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an oddball tests that never dropped. You wouldn't call me
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  Speaker 1: the the baritone whatever otherwise, I guess that's a good point. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: going off the rails here. Um. You know, last time
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  Speaker 1: we talked, I kind of called it. I thought over
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  Speaker 1: the next week I'd have a good chance at had
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  Speaker 1: a good buck and just has not materialized. Um. We
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  Speaker 1: had a three day hunt on the back forty that
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  Speaker 1: was ridiculously slow. Between me and Doug during we saw
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  Speaker 1: mm hmmm, one dough, one year and a half old buck,
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  Speaker 1: and one button buck during shooting ours. Um over the
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  Speaker 1: course of three days. So that was brutal. And then um,
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  Speaker 1: I've been out handful more times trying to get after
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  Speaker 1: Tran that four year old eight porn m after and
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't been working out. Um, just seeing doze and
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  Speaker 1: a few young bucks. Um, so you know that could.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's a quote unquote lull or
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  Speaker 1: anything that was going on. I think simply we just
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  Speaker 1: weren't in the right places. Um. You know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: be somewhat conservative with the wind direction and making sure
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking stab unless I've got the right conditions. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I'd have some opportunities, but didn't happen. But
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  Speaker 1: we had a cold front, like you said, coming through
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  Speaker 1: today raining At the moment, I'm hoping it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be like a light, misty drizzle. If that's the case
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  Speaker 1: today and tomorrow would be really good and then just
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  Speaker 1: cold weather from here and out into November. So so
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  Speaker 1: I think things will be getting much better here soon.
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  Speaker 1: But for me at least, it's been like a four
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  Speaker 1: out of ten. Um. But any day now, any time now,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to change. Yeah. And this time of year,
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  Speaker 1: probably more than other times a year, hunters become concerned
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  Speaker 1: with moon phase and there it's a full moon or
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  Speaker 1: a new moon or whatever. Um. I don't dabble in
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  Speaker 1: that stuff too much, Mark, but I know that even
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  Speaker 1: if you don't, you still like pay close attention to it.
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  Speaker 1: This year, we have a rutting moon on November twelfth,
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  Speaker 1: which is very similar to when it was on November.
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  Speaker 1: In theory, that should create a trickle rut. Can you
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  Speaker 1: explain if what that means if you're somebody who believes
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  Speaker 1: in the running moon. Okay, yeah, so I'm I'm not
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  Speaker 1: someone who puts too much into that, um, but I
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  Speaker 1: do kind of keep tabs on. I'm intrigued to buy
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  Speaker 1: all the moon stuff, but I don't live and breathe
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  Speaker 1: by it at all. UM. So yeah, that this running
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  Speaker 1: moon is basically that the theory goes um that the
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  Speaker 1: second full moon after the autumn equinox, I think supposedly
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  Speaker 1: triggers peaking or the peak of running activity. That's the theory. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And so in this case, with that November twelve running moon,
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  Speaker 1: that would indicate a later peak of running activity and
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  Speaker 1: usual um, which then can lead to something that has
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  Speaker 1: been termed this trickle rut, which essentially just means uh,
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  Speaker 1: slow ebbing and flowing of running activity. That will You'll
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit of it in late October, and
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  Speaker 1: then it'll be contrickle off, and then you'll get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more in mid November and it will kind
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  Speaker 1: of trickle off. Basically, it's a it's a poor rut.
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  Speaker 1: The theory goes when you have that kind of timing. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the consensus across most biologists is that the moon does
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  Speaker 1: not trigger actual breeding behavior. The changes in daylight trigger
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  Speaker 1: breeding behavior, so that happens at the same time every
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  Speaker 1: year in most places across the Midwest and the northern
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  Speaker 1: half of the United States. That means that we're getting
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  Speaker 1: a give or take typical mid November ish peak of
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  Speaker 1: actual breeding. Would that be in the case, then the
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, the three to two to three weeks
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  Speaker 1: before that peak are usually when you're seeing the running activity.
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  Speaker 1: The hunters want to see the running around, the fighting,
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  Speaker 1: the chasing, scraping, etcetera, etcetera. That's usually hamp happening as
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  Speaker 1: we ramp up towards that point when the most does
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  Speaker 1: are ready to breed. Um. So, no matter what the
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  Speaker 1: moon tells me, I always know that the last week
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  Speaker 1: of October in the first two weeks of November should
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  Speaker 1: be pretty darn good. Um. Now, maybe could something with
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  Speaker 1: the rut or with the moon, you know, impact the
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  Speaker 1: intensity of daylight activity during those periods that I might
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit more open to maybe there's some
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  Speaker 1: connection with daylight movement versus nighttime movement and the intensity
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  Speaker 1: that we see as hunters. There maybe could be something there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. I don't know that's the case,
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  Speaker 1: so I keep tabs on it. Um. I have not
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  Speaker 1: seen any strong correlation with my own hunts and those timings,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, if there's a good moon phase that
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  Speaker 1: correlates with when I'm out there hunting, I'm I guess,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'll take it if it helps me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Another moon thing that people pay attention
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  Speaker 1: to this time of year is the red moon. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this is a theory that I'm not bought into myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm you know, open to look at it and
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  Speaker 1: intrigued by it. Um. Adam Hayes always talks about this.
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  Speaker 1: A number of pretty darn good hunters, you know, point
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  Speaker 1: to the moon as as some kind of influencer. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's worth noting that we do have a
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  Speaker 1: red moon set of conditions coming up over the next
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  Speaker 1: few days. UM. Basically, what this quote unquote. Red moon
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  Speaker 1: is is when the moon is directly overhead or directly underfoot.
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  Speaker 1: That means the moon is right up above you in
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  Speaker 1: the sky, are all the way beneath us, And that
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  Speaker 1: supposedly triggers a little bit more movement during daylight. And
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  Speaker 1: so when that overhead or underfoot period coincides with the
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  Speaker 1: usual peak of movement, which is as you know, dawn
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  Speaker 1: or dusk, when you got the right moon that coincides
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  Speaker 1: with that usual good time anyways, supposedly that's going to
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  Speaker 1: help you see a little bit more. And we have
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  Speaker 1: have that coming up. So Halloween tomorrow, we've got a
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  Speaker 1: red moon time of four forty pm UM, at least
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  Speaker 1: in in my neck of the woods. Friday November one,
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  Speaker 1: five nine pm Saturday, the second, two Sunday the third.
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  Speaker 1: So these are supposedly really good times to see a
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  Speaker 1: little extra daylight movement during those evening sits. I can't
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  Speaker 1: attest to it. I'm not vouching for I'm simply telling
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  Speaker 1: you it's something some people pay attention to. Um And
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  Speaker 1: like I said, if it leads to me killing Tran
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  Speaker 1: tonight or tomorrow, I'm a happy camper. Yeah. And even
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  Speaker 1: if you are a hunter who doesn't necessarily believe in
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  Speaker 1: the moon phase or think that a trickle rut is
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  Speaker 1: a reality. Um, you probably do pay attention in cold
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  Speaker 1: fronts and looking ahead at the extended forecast. Here kind
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  Speaker 1: of after these next few days we get a really
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  Speaker 1: long bout of stagnant weather. And so I was looking
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  Speaker 1: ahead to the dates for my rudication, which is November
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  Speaker 1: one through ten, I believe, um, And it seemed like
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  Speaker 1: there was no significant cold front or warm front during
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  Speaker 1: that time. And so what that tells me in something
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  Speaker 1: that we saw a few years ago. It might have
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  Speaker 1: been twenty seventy, and I can't remember for certain, um,
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  Speaker 1: when you get that stagment, whether you often get a
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  Speaker 1: consistent wind direction. And so this is notable because if
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  Speaker 1: you're a hunter who has a small property or limited
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  Speaker 1: setups um or hasn't necessarily got into run and got
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  Speaker 1: hunting yet, that you might burn out all of your
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  Speaker 1: for example, north west wind stands when you have this
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  Speaker 1: kind of stagnant weather, And so that's something to start
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  Speaker 1: planning for right now. So it doesn't get to be
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  Speaker 1: November four and you're looking at like the three day
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  Speaker 1: forecast and you say, every day is a north wind,
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  Speaker 1: and then you get to November seven and it's the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. Um, So that's certainly something to plan for
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  Speaker 1: as we get into those long stretches of guys hit
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  Speaker 1: in the woods. That's a good point. It's looks like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of cold weather, which is good. But to
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  Speaker 1: your to what you just said, there a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of west, northwest or west winds at least as I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking here in southern Michigan. So it's a great reason
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  Speaker 1: to try to get a little bit mobile and try
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  Speaker 1: some kind of running gun set allows you to switch
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  Speaker 1: things up or hopefully people planned for those westerly winds
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is they've got in their neck of
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  Speaker 1: the woods and and it will be ready for it.
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  Speaker 1: But I only have I just looked at my tender
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  Speaker 1: I have it only got one day where it switches
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  Speaker 1: out of the east for a little bit, so it'll
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. I planned for that, so I've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of westerly stands. But it is nice when you
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  Speaker 1: can flip flop around with those changes. And we've always
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. It seems like changes and weather often
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  Speaker 1: trigger a little bump, and so it'll be interesting even
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  Speaker 1: though what we have is good, it's stagnant, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: that's I think it'll be less. I'm guessing whether it
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  Speaker 1: will be less of an influence or this rut simply
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  Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of changes, it's probably gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: We've got pretty good, decent weather conditions and then it's
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  Speaker 1: just when do those dolls coming to heat and being
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  Speaker 1: in the right spot. So that's my guess. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to call my shots this week.
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  Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what's going to happen on my hunts,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try hard and uh see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll beside from two of us this week, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hear from Darton Harwick in New York from Flat
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  Speaker 1: Line White Tales, and we go to Iowa and talk
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  Speaker 1: to Matt Peterson from MDL Outfitters, and then in Alabama
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  Speaker 1: from Southern Ground Hunting, we talked to Parker McDonald, and
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  Speaker 1: then we interviewed David Grisolt from Tagg and Brigg in Ohio. Cool, Well,
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  Speaker 1: should we wrap this up, let people hear these interviews
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  Speaker 1: and then get him off to the tree. Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Mark sounds good alright, and
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  Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Darton Hardwick from
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  Speaker 1: Flat Line, White Tales in New York. Now Darton in
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  Speaker 1: New York. What would you say the buck activities been
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  Speaker 1: lately on a scale of one to ten, No, I
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  Speaker 1: would say it's it's been about a five, increasing by
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  Speaker 1: the day. Um. Over the last week, we've definitely seen
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  Speaker 1: more daylight activity from younger bucks and them getting antsy
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  Speaker 1: and ramped up um to start running. UM. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we're quite at peak activity yet, as the mature
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  Speaker 1: buck still are kind of lurking in the night, um,
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the time to get right. But with each
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  Speaker 1: day we're getting closer to prime time. You just killed
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  Speaker 1: the good buck there in New York with your bow.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about that set up and about that hunt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the piece I'm hunting is about a forty acre
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  Speaker 1: slice and it runs up a mountain side. UM. I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of towards the bottom of the mountain side because
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  Speaker 1: of the access to the piece. Um. But basically my
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  Speaker 1: stand location is set up um in the open hardwoods,
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  Speaker 1: kind of between the thick bedding and food source. It's
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of some railroad tracks, um and
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  Speaker 1: trying to play the play the deer coming coming to
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  Speaker 1: this food source. Uh. The way the hunt played out,
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  Speaker 1: A dough came down off the mountain side, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: nice New York bunck was right on her, pushing her,
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  Speaker 1: and everything happened pretty fast. So I had a twenty
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  Speaker 1: five yard poring away shot as he passed by me,
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  Speaker 1: and uh put one in the in the good zone.
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  Speaker 1: You said there's still a lot of standing crops in
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  Speaker 1: New York. Are acorns steel factoring in your decision making
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  Speaker 1: this time of year? Then? Uh, for certain pieces, this
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  Speaker 1: one not so much, just because of how much crops
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  Speaker 1: are on the bottom of the mountain. Um. The farmer
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been in the cut any of the standing corn
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  Speaker 1: or the beans that are down there yet. So I
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  Speaker 1: haven't played as much a role in New York with
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  Speaker 1: the acorns, but definitely in some of my other areas
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  Speaker 1: acorns are playing a big factor. Are you seeing much
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  Speaker 1: for signmaking in New York? And how does that factory
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  Speaker 1: in due decisions sign making? The scrapes are definitely heating up.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of bucks are checking those. I'm still seeing
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  Speaker 1: mature bucks coming in during the night. Um, so they're
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  Speaker 1: not daylight active yet, but yeah, with being late October,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's prime time to focus on scrapes and pay
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  Speaker 1: It's more attention to the sign. Do you and the
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  Speaker 1: guys from flat Land? White Tail has used many really
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  Speaker 1: aggressive tactics this time of year, like calling or blind
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  Speaker 1: calling or decoying between your haunts and New York and Pennsylvania. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely say we're pretty big once it gets
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  Speaker 1: to this time of year. On calling, UM, Nick's been
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  Speaker 1: using calling this week, UM to try and get one
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  Speaker 1: of those territorial mature books that I think something's going
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  Speaker 1: on in his neck of the woods to show his face. Um.
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  Speaker 1: We've had a couple of encounters this week with some
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  Speaker 1: some nice dear and we just haven't had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to close the deal. But with each day it's getting
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  Speaker 1: closer to prime time, so more encounters should be coming
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  Speaker 1: going forward. Then, in the six week or so, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think that Bucket TV is going to be
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  Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're headed towards UH eight and the nine. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that next week, probably around November four through
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  Speaker 1: the eight, it's going to be about prime time up
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  Speaker 1: here in northeastern part of the United States. Our done,
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  Speaker 1: Congrats on the autome do you. Good luck to you
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  Speaker 1: and everyone else for flat and white tails, and thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining me. Yep, no problem, thanks guys all right
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  Speaker 1: Enjoining us on the line now is Matt Peterson from
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  Speaker 1: MDL Outfitters in Iowa. Now, Matt in Iowa, what would
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  Speaker 1: you say the bucket activities been lately on a scale
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  Speaker 1: of one to ten, bluck activity has been in an
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  Speaker 1: average four and a half out of ten. So what
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  Speaker 1: we've seen is your your stereotypical pre rod activity. However,
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  Speaker 1: it's being influenced with our rather unique systems systematic Southern
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  Speaker 1: Iowa agricultural system going on where we have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of crops that are still standing in a lot of
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: our great areas UM. And so those areas are obviously,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, hiding a lot of visual sightings that we
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: normally would be seeing. UM. However, with the standing corn here,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: love to flock to it. UM. It's colder town. The
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: deer coming out heading towards beans, de feed and hitting
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: on greens this time of year. It's everybody talks about palatability. Um.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: All of our green plots are getting hit rather consistently.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: But with the snow that came in here over the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, in the future snow coming in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: those cold attempts, we are looking at a lot of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: being activity, which is somewhat unusual for this part of October.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: So if normally we'll be looking at about you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: five and a half to seven out of ten as
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: far as blocked activity right now, um, especially the last
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: year las year would have been about seven or eight,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and uh this year with this, with the crops and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: other factors as well, eh D numbers possibly being lower
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: in certain areas, it's just it's just not as good
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as what it could be. So walk me through one
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of your ideal setups would look like this time of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: year when the crops are in versus when the crops
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: are out. So were the crops are in, we play
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the trail camera game because there's so much that we
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: can't see, you know, with the field obolusly being full
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of corn um, we have to assume there's deer in it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: We like to hunt the timber edges um. You know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: travel out on a pinch, maybe a creek system um.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Pretty much you know where there is a normal timbered
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: or CRP betting area. We like to get between that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and the corn where we are seeing heavy deer traffic. UM.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: If that's withstanding beans, obviously that does not have any
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: cover influence whatsoever. Um So, therefore we can rely a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: little bit more on those trails, those funnels, those pinch points.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Said this time of year, catch some big deer coming
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to check for dose out the food source in the evening.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Um so, and I should say that it's all evening
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: sets right now, and there's no there's no one benefits
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: for us to get into the sand in the morning,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: um especially one of our better stands. We save those
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for the upcoming week. Um. Now invert now versus the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: crops are out. Now, there's a lot of food on
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the ground. There's a lot of stubble left over from
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the harvest. Um, whether they be corner beans. Every neighborhood
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is different, every farm is different with different variety of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of seed. So we have sometimes we have round up
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: ready beans. Sometimes we have the post liberty variety where
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: deer have they do have a taste for different different
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: types of corn and beans. We've see deer absolutely avoid corn,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: corn and beans that you know, they just don't like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: taste off and they'll go right next door to you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: know what looks to us as it seem seem kind
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of soybean. But they're all over there um for no
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: other reason than taste. UM. So we with the crops out,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we have to rely a lot more so on our
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: trail cameras and our visual scouting UM to figure out
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a set up. So setups don't necessarily change because we
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: kind of have a wide variety of setups UM, but
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the approach is a little bit different. And how we're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: finding with deer and choosing which of the setups to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: go to. What are you seeing for signmaking right now?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And how does that influence your decisions and making a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: set up right now? Over the last I'll go back
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in the last ten days, UM. Scrape activity um as
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: well as rubs are picking up on all of my
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: farms in the last you know, five to seven days. UM.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Going about ten days back, we were looking at a
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one seemed like slow activity. They were just weren't scrapes
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: firing like normal, even though we had the good weather. UM,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: we were just seemed a little bit behind the schedule. UM.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But here in the last week, scrapes have fired up
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: like crazy. Rubs are picking up all over the place.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And that's we're going from the small little field that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: drugs that are just periodic um all the way up
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to your you know, your big community rubs that are
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: deep in noptember, which I tried to avoid looking at,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: even though they're pretty cool cool, they're pretty cool to find. UM.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You don't need to invade on any better areas this
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: time of year. But the sign is all picked up.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And that's that's not just talking about trails and scrapes
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and rubs. It's all talking about trail can't activity. UM.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of the activity that I'm seeing on camera
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: is still nocturnal, especially with our mature deer. UM. I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: only had two or three mature bucks actually out in daylight. UM.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I run cameras pretty much where we're hunting, right. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: have no benefit to run a camera in the betting area.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'll never go back there um to hunt, order to scout,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: but we we want to know when the deer are
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: there where we're hunting, so we're checking that. And the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: activity is just picking up. And now I can see
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel and that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: with that light being the run it is, it is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: coming going forward. Then in the six week or so,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to tend in Iowa,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I would expect here over the next week it would
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: jump up to possibly seven or eight out of ten.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Given the weather stays good, crops continue to get harvested
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: occasionally here and there. Um. The only reason that would
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: stay lower is if the you're staying into the crops
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and those standing cords and remain hidden. All right, Matt, Well,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: good luck to you and your clients at MTL Outfitters.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, all right, Thanks, Man's have a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: good one alright. Enjoining us on the line. Next is
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Parker McDonald from Southern Ground Hunting in Alabama. Now, Parker
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: in Alabama, what would you say the buck activities ben
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: lately on a scale of one to ten, Yeah, I
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: would say probably right now, it's gonna be about a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: about a five. Um where I'm at and in a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: lot of the state I haven't haven't seen just an
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of um, big mature bucks being killed. There
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: have been a few, but just in my experience so far,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: up scene, quite a few young bucks out on the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: feet and feeding on achins and stuff. Um. And then
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of course I had a I had a good encounter
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: with a buck I killed last week, a mature buck
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: on Alabama public plan And a lot of it was
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: because I was I got right in between his his
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: food and bedding. But he was definitely on his feet
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in daylight hours. And so I would say five because
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's not the absolute worst, but um,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's only going to go up from here.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Like other Southern states, Alabama has a variety of stages
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: of the rut going on at all times in the fall.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Can you walk us through what different do your groups
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and what different phases that route we currently have in Alabama. Yeah,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So in Alabama on a lot of a lot of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: pieces pretty close to where I hunt, do you have
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a strain of deer that was brought in from Michigan
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: years ago, and so your experience with those, dear, you'll
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: experience a rut that is typical to probably the rest
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of the United States, really that early November UM type rut.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And so you could be out in the woods, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know right now, NBC and some UM good pre run activity,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and probably in the next week or so, you might
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you know, you might see bucks chasing does like crazy. Um.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: But then in that same block of timber, you could
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have a buck that's not even close to being in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the rut at all. He's still up a couple of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: months to a month away from even being close to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: starting the pre rut. UM. So it really is all
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: over the place, UM, where I hunt, And then you
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: can go put some parts of the state, UM, Southern Alabama.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of parts of the state out there
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: where they won't even run until February. UM. And then
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: some parts of northern Alabama they're not gonna you're gonna
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: have RUD activity in in February. So it really is
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: truly just dependent on where you're at. UM. I would say,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: for where I'm at the majority of the time, UM,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: right now, you're still going to experience a lot of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that bet the food pattern. UM, you're not gonna see
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a ton of rud activity. Of course unless you see
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: those UM you get haven't encounter with one of those
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Michigan strained deer. UM. But like the buck I killed
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the other day, he wasn't he wasn't even anywhere close
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to it. So, um Man, this cold front though that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is about to hit. I think it's hitting a lot
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: of the United States. I know it's hitting a lot
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of the South. And in the next in the next
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, man, it's gonna be um probably the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: cold front that really gets the deer on the scene.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think I think you're probably gonna start seeing a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: little bit more movement and that number, you know, it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: could it could go up drastically here this this upcoming
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: weekend for sure. So how do you balance your aggressiveness
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in an area like that where you have so many
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: different phases of the ruck going on at once. For
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: my style, UM, you know, I'm using I'm using a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: lot of water access pretty much. Um all the time
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is what I use. And UM, I kind of stay aggressive,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know. It's just really depends for me, Like during
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the rut that early early December is the rut that
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I really try to key on, key in on in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: my area. And I'm gonna be as aggressive as I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: can be. I'm gonna go into um a lot of
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the areas where I know is is good dough betting,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to get really, really close to that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And that's all that's since I started doing this, That's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: been the most um beneficial thing I've done, is that
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: right there in the middle of that, and I'll get
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: as close to those dough betting areas that I possibly can.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Now what I'm trying to do is, um, I'm not
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: getting I'm not proud of betting too much of these bucks. UM.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I am trying to get in between the beds and
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the food and UM, A lot of the bed A
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: lot of the betting, I know, is there some of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the betting I don't know is there. I use this
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: time of year when um, you know, the majority of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the area that I'm hunting isn't so much, isn't so
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: close to the rut Um. I'm going to use a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lot of this time to go in really aggressive to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: areas that I've never been into before. So just I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: use a lot of it for going and blind into
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: brand new areas. You just killed that buck doing water access.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Is that a tactic that you'll use year round? Is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that something that you think it can be applied to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: all of the others days? Yeah, So, you know, since
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I started doing this, I would say my encounters and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: deer have gone up drastically, like it's not even it's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: not even close really to what I was experiencing before.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And uh, and a lot of that is because I'm
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: going into areas where I mean, the majority of the time,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: there's nobody in there. I don't think I've ever run
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: into a single person, um, you know, and especially here
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in Alabama, I haven't run into a whole lot of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: people that are doing the same thing. And uh, if
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I do run into anybody, it's usually because they're coming
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: off of private land and they've been hunting that same
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: piece of public land their whole life, you know, because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it's close to their property or whatever. Um. But you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I have a whole lot of encounters with deer. I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: get to, um see a lot more dear on these
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: these pieces of property than a lot of people in
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the South. UM. And I think that's just getting back
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: far into those places where people aren't going into very often.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: What food sources are you focused on this time of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: year in Alabama? So right now, um, obviously the aprons
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: are falling like crazy, and we've had a really good
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: year here everywhere I've been, um here in Alabama and Tennessee, um.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Even in Kentucky I hunted there and everywhere I've been
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: it seems like there's a really solid agin crop and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: so that that that really makes it difficult to um
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: find where the deer are actually hitting because they got
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: aprons all over the place. UM. One of the things
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I really try to key in on is um going
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: into a place that has those white oats UM that's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: dropping a lot of aprons, but also has a lot
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: of the native brows that is um that that deer
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: really tend to like. So that with this buck that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I killed last week, I really keyed in on a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: transition area that had a pine ticket and then they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: had a UM a couple of year old clear cut
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and those were on the private land, and then on
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the public land there was there was a lot of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: acrons falling, and so I figured in that clear cut, UM,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of brows out here. Those
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: are basically just like a big thick food plot that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: are just it's just covered with all types of food
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: for deer. And so if you can be close to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: one of those and a lot of times that ticket
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: for this time of the season going forward. Then in
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the sext week or so, what do you think that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Bucket TV is going to be on a scale of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: one to ten in Alabama? And I think this cold
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: front that's pushing through here, um this weekend is going
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to be uh. I really think it's gonna get deer
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on their feet. Um, that's one thing I've noticed. The
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: most deer activity I've seen that this point has been
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in those those little cold fronts that come through. You know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that drops the tent down to forty or so degrees
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and the deer activity gets really high. And so this
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: weekend um is supposed to get down into the thirties.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see a lot more people
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: down here in the South, um posting on on social media,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see a whole lot more big bucks being killed.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say it's probably gonna go up to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: maybe even a seven or an eight. All Right, Parker Will,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: congrats on that awesome Alabama public land buck. Thanks for
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: joining me. Thanks Spencer alright in joining us on the line.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Next is David g Rizzo from teen Tagg and Brigg
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in Ohio. Now, David in Ohio, what would you say
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the buck activity is been lately on a scale of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: one to ten, I think the buck activity has been
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: about a six. And the reason I say that we're
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of small box cruising daylight hours and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: seeing some new box pop up on our trail cameras,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: but the mature buck activity, at least where we're at,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: we have not seen you know, daylight active yet. It's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: been close, um, but we haven't seen a ton of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: mature buck activity yet. Although they are working scrapes at night,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: it seems like they're branching out throughout the last couple
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of months on our trail cameras box that we've never
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: seen before or um and and the younger deer are
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: moving in daylight. It just doesn't seem like that mature
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: buck activity has you know, really gone out into like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: an all out seeking phase where they're moving you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a lot during the daylight hours these last few days
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of October. Do acorns still factor into your decision making
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: when you're making a set up? Yeah, I I I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: was actually set up tonight on an acorn flat and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I had three does come in and they were literally
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: nose to the ground feeding the whole time. I mean
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I was, I was actually pretty surprised that there wasn't
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a buck with them or at least coming into check. Um.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: So you know, I think the acorns definitely still play
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a factor, you know, at least case in point tonight
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: where the does were feeding. I mean, I really wouldn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: have wanted to be anywhere else it just the buck
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't in the area tonight. What are you doing this
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: time of year when you find some fresh signmaking and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: at what point do you kind of start to ignore
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that and move off the rubs and scrapes. I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: right now, at least for us in Ohio, is just
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: is peak time where they are just hammering the scrapes.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday I said, I I watched three bucks,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: three different bucks, clear the same scrape. One buck in particular,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: cleared it, went back and cleared it three different times,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and they were all kind of chasing each other around,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: just trying to figure each other out. So I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the scrape activity right now is is peaking, and especially
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: over the next couple of days. I mean that's where
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: really we're gonna be honing in a lot of our
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: time and energy is hunting, you know, on scrapes or
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: at least somewhere close you know paths leading up to scrapes,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: because I really believe that these mature bucks are gonna
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: get on their feet. We got a cold front coming
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in end of the week, and I think that's gonna
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: spur some activity and we're gonna get some good action,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: especially scrape action. You know, by the time the week's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: over with, When you're hunting scrapes, do you have a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: preference for morning versus evening. I'm hunting them any time
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of day. I prefer the morning time. And you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: so we literally just started and hunting mornings pretty hard
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. UM. And it's and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it's paid off for us, and I'll be in the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: woods again tomorrow morning. To UM. It seems like a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: lot of the buck activity that we're observing on trail
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: cameras that we you know, that we're not seeing when
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we're sitting is starting to switch, you know, to that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: morning movement. I mean case in point, this morning, a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: new buck popped up on one of our trail cameras,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: one of our cell cameras that we've never seen before
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: at ten thirty UM. So, you know, extending those sits,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I think a little bit farther in the end of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the end of the late morning. I think is uh
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is absolutely necessary because you just never know when when
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: he could take a walk. It sounds like most of
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: your cameras are facing scrapes right now. How does that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: change when we get into the road. Do they stay there?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Do you move them to someplace else? No? We typically
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: keep them, you know, we just try to keep them
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: on any active scrapes. Honestly, once once like the peak
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: chasing comes around, not that the trail cameras are irrelevant,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: but it's just time to just go log a lot
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of hours into the woods and you just I mean,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the deer become kind of unpatternable at that point, at
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: least in my opinion. So we which we tend to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: keep the keep the cameras on the scrapes that are
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: active because you just never know what new bucks are
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: gonna move into the area. Um and especially if there's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a hot doing there, if he's hitting that scrape, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, you never know, you could you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: could have a day or two day window to get
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in there, you know, and try and kill them. So
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: we keep the keep our cameras on scrapes, let them
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: kind of take that inventory for us when we're not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: sitting directly on you know, on those main scrapes anymore,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and we just get in the woods, getting you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: getting a timber somewhere and try and log as many
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: hours as we can if we can catch up to
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: something going forward. Then in the sex week or so,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: what do you think that bucke activity is going to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Ohio?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I I really think it's gonna be you know, an
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: eight to and eight and a half. I think, Um,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: like I said, the end of this week, we got
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a cold front coming in. It's been sixty degrees all week.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: It'll be like that through Thursday, and then highs on
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Friday go down to forty with lows in the thirties
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and that continues for the next probably four to five days,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I believe. So I really think end of this week,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: early next week, you know, this movement is gonna be
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: eight eight to an eight to and eight and a half.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The mature bucks are gonna be on their feet, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to being in the woods. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: think this is gonna be, you know, one of the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: best week just that we have throughout this year. All right, David,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: good luck to you and your brother team tagging Bragg.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Appreciate it, Spencer, And that concludes
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. Makes It Darton,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Matt Parker, and David for joining me, Thank you guys
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: for listening. Good Luck to everyone who has a rut
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: cation planning up here. I hope you're season goats just
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: like you imagine, and I'll be on a rut cation
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: in my own So the next time I talk to you, guys,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: oh be coming off of a lot of days of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: tree stand time and I hope it's the same thing
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for you. Until next week, stay wired to Hunt.