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"Thou Shall Not Bear False Witness" (Wednesday, April 22, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 4: A glorious tedsty to you, where it is a gift
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Speaker 4: just to inhale and exhale without encumbrance, and to greet
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Speaker 4: the day with a smile and to know that regardless
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Speaker 4: of the machinations of those in power, God has endowed
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Speaker 4: you with unalienable rights and great gifts and talents as well.
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately there are those who don't want you to
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Speaker 1: try to fully vest those and that's who we call out.
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Speaker 1: Most of them find their way into one political party.
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Speaker 1: So sure it may come across sounding like we have
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Speaker 1: to be almost to a man, woman and child, monomoniacally
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Speaker 1: attached to the idea that you can't do it yourself.
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Speaker 1: the founding documents are still there, we can scrape all
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Speaker 1: this nast to build up off of them. But we've
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Speaker 1: got to get up and get going. Why did they
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Speaker 1: have to spend seventy million dollars to win a vote
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Speaker 1: by one percentage point? Because we outnumber them, and when
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Speaker 1: we show up, we being those constitutional free market conservatives
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Speaker 1: who get frustrated with the Fabian Marxists Fabian socialists in
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party even more than we do the Fabian
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Speaker 1: socialists in the Democratic Party, where we expect them to be.
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Speaker 1: We throw up our hands. This is why we were
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Speaker 1: talking about new political parties, and I want to poke
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Speaker 1: around that for a second. I'm also having a raging,
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Speaker 1: great debate with a dear friend of mine, former elected
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Speaker 1: official himself is one of the only two people who
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Speaker 1: still call me friend after they've left public office, which
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Speaker 1: is cool because then I know they're talking to me,
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Speaker 1: not because they need to use my show to get popular.
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Speaker 1: But it's a wonderful conversation we're having with this fellow
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Speaker 1: about redistricting and Jerry mandering, but we'll get into that
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Speaker 1: in a little bit. I have to tell you our
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Speaker 1: first things, because otherwise how can we discuss it. President
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Speaker 1: Trump's nominee for the Federal Reserve said he never promised
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Speaker 1: the President he would cut interest rates. Kevin Orr said
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Speaker 1: under questioning by the Senate Banking Committee, the President has
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Speaker 1: never once asked me to commit to any particular interest
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Speaker 1: rate decision, and nor would I agree to it if
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Speaker 1: he had. Now. The President earlier said on CNBC he
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Speaker 1: would be disappointed if he didn't. The administration is going
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Speaker 1: to require all fifty states to explain their plans to
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Speaker 1: revalidate their medicaid providers in a national escalation of anti
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Speaker 1: In Florida, they need another new congress person. Sheila Sherphilis
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Speaker 1: have all resigned since April thirteenth. More to come question mark.
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Speaker 1: Virginia voters, as mentioned, voted fifty one point five percent
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Speaker 1: to forty eight point five percent to allow the Democrats
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Speaker 1: and the General Assembly to redraw congressional districts in Virginia.
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Speaker 1: Governor Spanberger said, Virginia, you voters have spoken tonight. They
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Speaker 1: say the deceiver was never going to come and try
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Speaker 1: to take him away from you. It's I know that
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Speaker 1: friends of mine often will go to the metaphorical discussion
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Speaker 1: of you know God, God isn't going to help you,
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Speaker 1: you know, make your garden, but he'll tell you where
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Speaker 1: the shovel is. And that's the that's what we have
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Speaker 1: to remember that, you know, God endowed us with our rights.
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Speaker 1: He didn't say that people weren't going to try to
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Speaker 1: take them away, see the Egyptians. So you know, this
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Speaker 1: is this is an ongoing thing, and we have the
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Speaker 1: technology now that nobody had. I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 1: Moses didn't have a radio show. I mean, I have
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Speaker 1: a dear friend who's named Moses, and he has a
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Speaker 1: radio show. Spends most of it talking about sports in Florida.
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Speaker 1: But that's a different matter. But Moses didn't have a
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Speaker 1: radio show. He had two stone tablets, and yet that
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Speaker 1: was enough to create liberty for two thousand years, three
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Speaker 1: thousand years, and then the Romans finally figured out how
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Speaker 1: to scare a disarmed population into capitulating in Jerusalem. Thus
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Speaker 1: you triggering God to send his only begatten son to
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Speaker 1: save us again. And what was his technology? Did he
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Speaker 1: have a blog? Did he have a Facebook account?
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Speaker 10: No?
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Speaker 1: He walked places. He walked places, and he talked to people,
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Speaker 1: mostly as we were talking about with Delegate Rice, poor people,
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Speaker 1: not the wealthy, not the elected. You know, Samaria is
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Speaker 1: a classic example. All his boys go running looking for
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Speaker 1: the General Assembly offices to go find the members of
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Speaker 1: the House of Delegates and the governor or whoever, and
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Speaker 1: the carpenter rabbi from Galilee sits down with the woman
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Speaker 1: that nobody wants to talk to. You pick your translation, prostitute,
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Speaker 1: fallen woman, however you want to look at it, and
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Speaker 1: she becomes the reason they get safe, not because of
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Speaker 1: the heads of state. So just remember that stuff. This
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Speaker 1: is the stuff that keeps me smiling and dialing each
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Speaker 1: morning here on the talk media network. I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to properly recreate this raging text
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Speaker 1: debate I'm having with I mentioned I have two people
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Speaker 1: in the world who when they left elected office, kept
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Speaker 1: in touch with me, which is my litmus test, because
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Speaker 1: most elected officials are my buddy until they either leave
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Speaker 1: elected office or I leave the area and can't help
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Speaker 1: them anymore. I mean, it is what it is, what
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Speaker 1: it is, what it is. Now that song is going
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Speaker 1: to be stuck in my head.
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Speaker 19: Oh, lemons don't make lemonade. Humans make lemonade out of lemons.
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Speaker 19: You leave a lemon to its own devices, it's going
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Speaker 19: to make a pile of rotten lemon. Sorry, I digress,
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Speaker 19: but this fella, Bob and Virginia has been texting me
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Speaker 19: about my redistricting point, and he's missing several key, you know, instances,
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Speaker 19: and I keep adding them to the fray, like you know,
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Speaker 19: the Senate isn't supposed to be popularly elected, and the
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Speaker 19: commerce clause perversion and stuff like that. I'll figure out
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Speaker 19: a way to recreate it, sort of the way. You know,
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Speaker 19: if you ever took Shakespeare in school, college or high school,
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Speaker 19: you would actually, you know, you would have to read
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Speaker 19: Banquo's part of the Scottish play and then the girl
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Speaker 19: next to you would have to read. So we may
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Speaker 19: have to do a dramatic retelling of this debate we're
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Speaker 19: having because.
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Speaker 1: It's really good. But I want to pivot back into
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Speaker 1: this issue over redistricting, and now all the national news
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Speaker 1: media will leave Virginia now and head on down to Florida,
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Speaker 1: where the next batch of redistricting questions are going to
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Speaker 1: come about, and again driven by the nineteen twenty nine
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Speaker 1: Permanent Reapportionment Act period Scott and Virginia. Beach texted us
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Speaker 1: listens to us online after we finish up our hour
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Speaker 1: on WTAR down there, he says, thanks for having my
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Speaker 1: delegate on. Well, you've got a good one there. I
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Speaker 1: got to say this one from Mary in Portland said,
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Speaker 1: can we get this guy to run for president? Well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. If let's get more people like Andrew
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Speaker 1: Rice into the public sphere, Let's get more people who
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Speaker 1: under stand, you know, what's going on. Is a prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: It's not like he was a neophight to being in
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Speaker 1: the political realm, but you know, he said, let's let's
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Speaker 1: take it up a notch and see if we can't
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Speaker 1: make criminal justice easier on our end of it. So
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, But the issue seems to be right now,
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Speaker 1: how do Republicans keep letting this happen? And it's not
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Speaker 1: just that Republicans let it happen, it's the gaslighting that
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Speaker 1: I've talked about. So much of that seventy million dollars
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Speaker 1: is supporting a marginalization campaign that will proceed a criminalization
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Speaker 1: campaign of conservative policies and broadcasts and commentary. Remember they
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Speaker 1: they didn't try to stop Thomas Paine from publishing Common Sense.
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Speaker 1: They tried to tax him out of being able to
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Speaker 1: afford to publish common Sense. It's what they're doing with
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Speaker 1: gun laws now. They say, well, we can't ban guns.
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court keeps taking up the side of the Second Amendment.
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Speaker 1: Maybe what we'll do is we'll make it impossible to
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Speaker 1: buy We'll tax the bullets. It's the Second Amendment version
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Speaker 1: of the Stamp Act. And am I saying, these folks are,
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Speaker 1: they are, Yeah, they are. Because they've decided that they
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Speaker 1: can't infringe on your god given right, so they'll just
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Speaker 1: make it impossible for you to use it. And that's
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Speaker 1: the dirty little secret of it. So off to Florida,
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Speaker 1: the drive by media goes to go ironically. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if any of them will notice that when they get
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Speaker 1: to Florida that the Democrats in Florida are actually arguing
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Speaker 1: Republican seats. Alrighty, he's lying already. It's a lie. And
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Speaker 1: nobody in the press. Who's this published? This goat tripe?
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Speaker 1: Who is it? Liz jul It's Huffington Post, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: So what are the corruptions? I can name a few
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Speaker 1: you know that each in the US House of Representatives,
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Speaker 1: So these are the things you have to fix before. Yes,
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Speaker 1: This is why we need the Convention of States to
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Speaker 21: So we have to take our message boldly to the
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Speaker 21: public Republicans. I've studied on Olenski's rules for radicks. He
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Speaker 21: may have been evil, but he was an evil genius.
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Speaker 21: It works, and it says hold them to their own standards,
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Speaker 21: and one of our standards is that we were polite
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Speaker 21: and kind and deferential. And that doesn't win in the
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Speaker 21: current discourse. You have to tell the truth as loudly
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Speaker 21: and as boldly as others are willing to lie. Our
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Speaker 21: message is a winning message. It was a winning message yesterday, right,
47:22
Speaker 21: But you also have to There's two types of people
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Speaker 21: that run for office. George Will said this, and then
47:26
Speaker 21: my mentor, Bill Janis kind of picked it up and
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Speaker 21: I've stolen it from him. People who want to be
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Speaker 21: somebody and people who want to do something. Tragically, both
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Speaker 21: parties are infiltrated and co opted by be somebody's.
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Speaker 8: They like a title of a Pelpin prestige.
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Speaker 21: They like to look at the mirror and think somehow
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Speaker 21: they're more than better than etc. We threw off the
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Speaker 21: crown of British Royalty because we as Americans didn't believe
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Speaker 21: that was in our fiber right, and so we've got
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Speaker 21: to find people who are doing this to do it,
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Speaker 21: to perpetuate the greatest nation ever to exist on earth.
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Speaker 8: And everything comes to an end. Right.
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Speaker 21: I mean my view life as a plane ride to Paradise. Right,
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Speaker 21: God is going to take me and perfect me, which
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Speaker 21: is a lot of work one day, but this is
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Speaker 21: what I got to go through to get there. And
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Speaker 21: so on that plane ride, I could stop my toe,
48:11
Speaker 21: I could get food poisoning, I could have the most
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Speaker 21: amazing conversation I could ever imagine. I could make a
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Speaker 21: lifelong friend. But the plane ride's not the purpose. Paradise is.
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Speaker 21: And so America too will fail, fall, will, it'll teeter,
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Speaker 21: it will do all these things.
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Speaker 8: Our job is to make sure that it's not on
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Speaker 8: our watch. Right.
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Speaker 21: That is why we are elected to be stewards of
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Speaker 21: the resources of the people, and that we've gotten away
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Speaker 21: from that. Right, this is what can I get from
48:34
Speaker 21: me and my people. Here's what the Democrats just did.
48:36
Speaker 21: And I pointed it out very loudly while no one
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Speaker 21: else was because Repokings were afraid to. They found a
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Speaker 21: minority group that they didn't like. They needed to count
48:44
Speaker 21: their heads for the purposes of representation, but find a
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Speaker 21: way to silence their voices. Sound familiar, Jim Crow. Right,
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Speaker 21: So if it was wrong, then it's wrong now, and
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Speaker 21: that's a winning message. But we got out spent four
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Speaker 21: to one while having a four to one national cash advantage,
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Speaker 21: after having spent ninety six million dollars o NC dollars,
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Speaker 21: so that John Cornyn, who's sketchy at best, could defeat
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Speaker 21: a Republican conservative. Ken Paxton, Right, we got to do
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Speaker 21: it differently. And I'm gonna tell you something else, Joe.
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Speaker 21: I know I'm on a solo qui here. You ought
49:12
Speaker 21: to walk down to Capitol Square after this is ever
49:14
Speaker 21: with and watch Democrats and Republicans walk by. We just
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Speaker 21: got beaten, we just lost our voices, we just got disenfranchised.
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Speaker 21: We're smiling and they're not. They're miserable, and they're going
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Speaker 21: to be miserable because they're doing this for the wrong reasons.
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Speaker 21: And I know, at least for me, I'm doing it
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Speaker 21: for what I believe the right ones.
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Speaker 1: In about an hour's time, the March for Life is
49:32
Speaker 1: going to be happening downstairs, and people will be marching
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Speaker 1: for a much more important thing, and they'll be smiling,
49:36
Speaker 1: and they'll be smiling and trying to protect the unborn children.
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Speaker 1: So in seventeen seventy six, two hundred and fifty years ago,
49:45
Speaker 1: you may have heard we overthrew an occupying army. We
49:50
Speaker 1: created an occupying force by our declaration of independence. So
49:55
Speaker 1: we were creating a new government. How do we take
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Speaker 1: that the same paradigm and do it from the inside out.
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Speaker 1: Because Jefferson, I was just reading him in the public record,
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Speaker 1: it's understandable that you don't want to change stuff that
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Speaker 1: you've grown accustomed to.
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Speaker 21: Well, I don't think it's my job as a legislator
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Speaker 21: to voice my Christianity on people. But I'm very very
50:18
Speaker 21: open about my faith and how much better my life
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Speaker 21: is with Jesus and now eight years of sobriety as
50:24
Speaker 21: a result of that. And I think that our country
50:27
Speaker 21: needs a spiritual reawakening. I believe that John Adams was
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Speaker 21: absolutely correct when he said our constitution and finding documents
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Speaker 21: paraphrasing here are holy adequate only for a moral and
50:37
Speaker 21: religious people. No, it can't be these lies on the
50:40
Speaker 21: coin of the realm that I'm sure you've covered this
50:42
Speaker 21: on your show this morning. The wording of the referendum said,
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Speaker 21: and I quote, in order to restore a fairness. Yep,
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Speaker 21: that is a bald faced lie. When we lie to
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Speaker 21: the government, it's a crime. When the government lies to us,
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Speaker 21: it's politics. You know, I've had enough of that.
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Speaker 1: Well, we just read to keep Jeffries lying bold face
50:58
Speaker 1: about how this all began. But it's we That was
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Speaker 1: actually yesterday's program deep down inside though they know they're wrong, Kate,
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Speaker 1: fairness that we were talking to Andrew Rice, one of
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Speaker 1: your fellows here in the House of Delegates.
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Speaker 8: About I call him Vanilla Rice.
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Speaker 1: That's not fair. He's more like Rice putting. He's goods
51:21
Speaker 1: never coming on the show again.
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Speaker 8: And it's all my fault.
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Speaker 1: It's Happyoka or something. But that that the hearts and
51:30
Speaker 1: minds have to come when you go to where the
51:33
Speaker 1: issues are. You can't blanch from poverty, cost of healthcare,
51:37
Speaker 1: you can't blant from these because we have better answers.
51:40
Speaker 1: But we stop because we're like, oh, they're going to
51:43
Speaker 1: win eighty percent of that, so we see the other
51:46
Speaker 1: twenty percent and they get one hundred percent of those people.
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Speaker 8: I've never been invited to an African American church. I
51:51
Speaker 8: didn't go to.
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Speaker 21: I mean, I love it, right, and I used to
51:55
Speaker 21: go it was Goochland County yet and the LACP would
51:58
Speaker 21: have a candidate for him, and I would go to
51:59
Speaker 21: that and I would surely imagine that if you took
52:03
Speaker 21: a straw poll leaving the room, that the constitutional conservative
52:05
Speaker 21: might not have won. But everybody in that room afterwards
52:08
Speaker 21: knew I respected them, that they were my brothers and
52:12
Speaker 21: the fellowship of man. And you got to go in
52:15
Speaker 21: the rooms and you got to do that work. But
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Speaker 21: here's the real problem, and this is a tough one.
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Speaker 8: I hadn't figured it out thirty seconds, by the way,
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Speaker 8: for the real all the easy answers go left, all
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Speaker 8: of them.
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Speaker 15: Do.
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Speaker 8: Should there be poverty?
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Speaker 17: No?
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Speaker 8: Should we have access to affordable health care? Yes?
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Speaker 21: You got to teach kids critical thinking. You got to
52:31
Speaker 21: get down into the weeds. How do we eradicate poverty?
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Speaker 21: How do we pay for health care? What is healthcare?
52:34
Speaker 21: Does that include general mutilation?
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Speaker 8: Right? These are the tough ones, and we have to explain.
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Speaker 8: And if you're explaining, sometimes you're losing.
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Speaker 1: Locke has some answers to that too. Look them up
52:42
Speaker 1: for you, Thank you for joining us. Who knows what
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Speaker 1: we got Tomorrow morning, they're all on their way to Florida.
52:47
Speaker 1: We're on our way to the coffee maker until tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: So long and thank you.
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