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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - 2 Events are Going Swimming, Is it Time? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:28
  what's going on everybody
• 0:30
  welcome to sunday sunday
• 0:34
  sunday night crossfit talk
• 0:37
  what is going on what a
• 0:39
  sunday first week of the
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  nfl been so much fun
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  watching football today um
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  but I went to pennsylvania
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  and hung out with my mom
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  for a day and a half I
• 0:50
  dropped off walter and
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  she's gonna watch walter
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  for a couple weeks while
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  julie and I go to montana
• 0:56
  to see my daughter next weekend
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  And for a week,
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  I went there for a full week.
• 1:01
  So super,
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  super excited to go see her in
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  just a week from now.
• 1:07
  How's everything going with Julie's knees?
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  So everything was going well.
• 1:14
  The newest one didn't straighten fully.
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  Oh, no.
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  So she had to go back for
• 1:20
  another round of PT sessions.
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  And she has a followup with
• 1:25
  the surgeon on Wednesday, but it's,
• 1:28
  it's just about fully straight now.
• 1:31
  Um, and according to the PT,
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  so they'll do measurements
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  and everything with the
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  surgeon on Wednesday and
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  determine if that's good
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  enough or if she needs to
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  go back for some more stuff.
• 1:43
  Um,
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  but she's getting around really well now.
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  Um, it's just,
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  she walks with a little bit
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  of a limp because her leg
• 1:49
  wasn't straight.
• 1:51
  Yeah.
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  but I think we're just about there.
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  So yeah, crazy.
• 2:02
  I'm actually mad at myself.
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  She was not a good patient
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  on the second one.
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  After going through the first one,
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  she did not want to do all
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  the tools and stuff for the
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  second one as much.
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  And I should have been more
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  adamant about...
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  Cause there's a machine that
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  straightens your leg out
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  and straightens it and bends it.
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  We did it diligently on the first one.
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  Didn't do it diligently on the second one.
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  And I think that's what
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  probably cost her the
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  straightening of the leg.
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  Do you think that was like
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  just an impatience thing
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  from her or the first one
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  went so well that she was like, I like,
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  I'm going to be good.
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  I don't need all this.
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  think this one didn't the
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  second one went better so
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  she didn't feel like she
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  needed it as much um and so
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  she she like she was up and
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  recovered and walking way
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  faster on this one and I
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  think she just felt like
• 2:56
  I'm past all that and so we
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  skipped the basic step that
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  was to get her leg straight
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  and and I would and I would
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  yell at her about it but
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  you know what that's like in a marriage
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  Um, after years,
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  you can just kind of tone
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  me out and move on with everything.
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  But I should have,
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  I should have just like set
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  the machine up and sorry,
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  get your butt up here.
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  Cause that's what he did on the first one.
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  I was very diligent about
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  making her do it like two
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  and three times a day.
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  And we did it.
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  It just like does it for her.
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  Right.
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  So she basically just needs
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  to like lay there and it
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  just extends and flexes.
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  Right.
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  But it's not comfortable
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  because she has to lay flat
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  and she can't do anything
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  else while she's doing it for an,
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  and it's an hour.
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  Once you're in the machine,
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  you're there for an hour.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  In about twenty four hours,
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  my beloved Chicago Bears
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  will be taking on Ken Walters,
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  Minnesota Vikings,
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  and it's going to be an epic,
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  epic matchup.
• 4:08
  Have you been watching football all day?
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  So I drove back from
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  Pennsylvania this morning.
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  We got back about one thirty.
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  So once we got back,
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  it was unload the car and
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  then we just relaxed
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  because I was doing a lot
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  of stuff for my mom all
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  weekend and I was pretty whooped.
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  So hopefully they play
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  better than my Lions played.
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  was bad yeah not awesome
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  that was bad who were they
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  playing today they played
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  the packers it was rough
• 4:46
  micah parsons got his first
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  sack as a packer oh yeah
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  the trade from uh dallas
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  yeah uh texans choked yep they did
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  The Bucs pulled out a win.
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  Baker Mayfield, in less than sixty seconds,
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  brought them back.
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  Pretty excited there for him.
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  Ken Walters,
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  it's Recycled QB broadcast today.
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  Rodgers, Fields, Darnold, Wilson.
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  Aaron Rodgers threw for four
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  touchdowns for the Steelers today.
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  Wow.
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  Forty-one years old, four touchdowns.
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  Pretty amazing.
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  And they won it on a
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  sixty-yard field goal at
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  the end of the game.
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  Yeah, Andrew,
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  I don't know how the Bengals won.
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  I would have thought it
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  would blow the Browns out.
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  It was not good.
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  Does Buffalo play tonight or tomorrow?
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  Tonight.
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  Buffalo plays tonight.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's the first week of
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  our fantasy football league.
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  And I don't think, Carolyn,
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  this is week zero for Carolyn.
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  I don't know what's going on.
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  I don't either.
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  And I love football.
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  I'm pretty knowledgeable in football.
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  And actually, I would say most sports.
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  I watch sports constantly.
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  But I haven't even opened
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  the app to look at what I need to do.
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  And if I'm supposed to be
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  benching players.
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  Because people talk about benching.
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  Are all of my players active every time?
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  Or do I have to put a
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  certain amount of my players?
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  Yeah, but...
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  It set it for you and it
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  would have picked your top
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  eight or whatever and just
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  put them in there.
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  I didn't touch mine.
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  It'll do it automatically for today?
• 6:38
  It drafts it.
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  So you're drafting in order, right?
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  The players are good.
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  So it's putting your best
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  players into the lineup first.
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  So you're probably okay today.
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  But from this point forward,
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  you'll have to make sure
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  your players are playing,
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  that they're not hurt,
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  and move people from bench to active.
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  I had downloaded the app, but I haven't.
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  So Andrew Sten is playing Jamie,
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  and Andrew is ahead of Jamie right now.
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  Yeah, I don't think I did very good.
• 7:12
  I am playing Jose,
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  and I think I'm ahead of him,
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  but it's predicting him to
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  win because he has Derrick Henry tonight.
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  So, yeah.
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  Yeah, that's me.
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  I'm just trying to see.
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  I'm at seventy.
• 7:34
  Andrew's at eighty-three.
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  Okay.
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  My team.
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  I don't even know who's on my team.
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  I have Joe Burrows.
• 7:41
  Okay.
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  Yeah, he had a bad day, though.
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  My wife has Joe Burrows.
• 7:46
  They barely won.
• 7:47
  I watched that game today.
• 7:52
  What does Seahawks D slash ST?
• 7:56
  You have the Seahawks defense.
• 7:58
  Yeah.
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  And then special teams?
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  Yes.
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  Yeah,
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  if their special teams or defense
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  score a touchdown,
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  you get points for that.
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  Oh, okay.
• 8:08
  Okay.
• 8:09
  I'll check this out later.
• 8:12
  Do a better job of whatever I had today.
• 8:13
  Yeah.
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  If it comes down to it,
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  you can assign a second
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  manager to your team,
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  and they can help you with
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  all of that stuff.
• 8:25
  Oh, good to know.
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  Ronica, if you're watching,
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  tell Sam she's getting
• 8:28
  drafted to be my manager.
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  Um, John,
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  I think you would know the answer
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  to this.
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  Carolyn put zero into her draft pre-draft.
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  Uh, I didn't, I missed the draft night.
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  So it automatically picked all my players.
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  And then I got an email,
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  you get a C grade.
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  And I was like, uh, Carolyn,
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  you should start the
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  Argonauts Argonauts running back.
• 8:59
  I think we were trying to
• 9:01
  get Shadur Sanders to come
• 9:05
  to CFL because he was
• 9:06
  getting shafted in Cleveland.
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  So maybe eventually my
• 9:13
  Argonauts can have Shadur Sanders.
• 9:17
  Jeff Bako says dump them all
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  in the chat GPT on each
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  Tuesday and ask who to start.
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  That's not a bad idea.
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  That's not a bad idea.
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  I might try that route.
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  And the C was better than
• 9:29
  Hiller's F. What did he do?
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  No, my F. Oh.
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  Getting a C for her draft was better than.
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  Yeah, it's an upgrade.
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  It's an upgrade.
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  I'll take it.
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  I'll take it.
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  Yeah, so it's been a fun week.
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  My team doesn't play yet.
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  So I hate when my team has
• 9:48
  Monday night as its first
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  week because then you have
• 9:51
  to just wait extra long.
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  Like, I'm ready to just see a game.
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  I've been waiting for this
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  new Ben Johnson thing to, like,
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  unveil and what do we have.
• 10:01
  And apparently we have a lot
• 10:03
  because when he left Detroit,
• 10:06
  they went into the shitter.
• 10:08
  Yeah.
• 10:12
  It pisses me off that he left.
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  I mean, I get it, but.
• 10:17
  Thirteen million reasons why he left.
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  Yeah, I get it, but.
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  First time we've ever paid for a coach,
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  by the way.
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  So, all right.
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  So we're trying something new this week.
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  We are trying factor fiction
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  right off the top because
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  it always seems that Jamie
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  doesn't read the notes and
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  Jamie spoils the factor
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  fiction earlier in the show
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  with her comments.
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  So we're going to do it first.
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  And then if she spoils
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  something later in the agenda,
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  then we'll just cross it
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  off and nobody will know.
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  So I do have to say, Jamie,
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  you really freaked me out.
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  Your top is so close to your skin color.
• 11:00
  When you came on, I was like,
• 11:02
  did she forget to put clothes on?
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  I have a story that I had
• 11:08
  put up a year ago.
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  This is a Fleo set,
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  and I actually have the matching shorts.
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  And I was like handstand walking away,
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  and it does not look like I
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  have any clothes on.
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  It doesn't.
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  It just freaked me out a
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  little bit right off.
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  All right.
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  My blood pressure is now
• 11:25
  back down to normal.
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  All right.
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  So here we go.
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  Factor fiction right off the top.
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  No warmup, no nothing.
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  Just like Jamie and kill
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  Taylor last weekend around
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  two is for the warmup.
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  Yes.
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  Here we go.
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  You didn't do it this week.
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  Did you?
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  Sorry.
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  I did not.
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  It was a thirty thirty inch box jump over.
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  If it would have been twenty four inch,
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  maybe I would have considered it.
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  But I'm not doing thirty inch box.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  A factor fiction.
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  We are using too many
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  machines in competitions.
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  You know, my thought on that.
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  I agree with seven when he says this, like,
• 12:00
  yeah,
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  I would rather see two running workouts,
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  three, right?
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  Like in a weekend,
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  I think unless you have
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  like a bicycle where you're
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  like actually riding and
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  you can see a race and
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  that's like at the games,
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  there's like a road bike or
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  something like that.
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  Like when, when you took the,
• 12:18
  like the L one and stuff,
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  like it was always,
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  we don't use machines.
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  We are the machines.
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  We are the machines.
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  We move things.
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  We're not, you know,
• 12:28
  stuck to a pace or what,
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  like you're moving it.
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  And then I,
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  we're just getting more and more machines,
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  but I get it because of the
• 12:33
  sponsors and we need more
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  like monostructural things
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  and workouts and
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  But I would rather see like
• 12:42
  a long distance run and
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  then also shorter distance run,
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  like different types of
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  running over just a bunch of machines.
• 12:54
  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I just think,
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  I feel like a lot of the
• 12:57
  workouts lately have been,
• 12:59
  especially like at semifinals and stuff,
• 13:00
  like it seems to be based on the machine.
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  Like even like our machine workout,
• 13:06
  our echo bike double under workout,
• 13:09
  like that was so heavily skewed on the,
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  I mean,
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  if it was a twenty kale mix with
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  other things that are
• 13:16
  taking several minutes and
• 13:17
  it's like in there to like fatigue you,
• 13:20
  cool.
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  But it seems to be like,
• 13:22
  that's the workout, the machine.
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  And I don't like that.
• 13:25
  Yeah,
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  as long as it's balanced type of workout,
• 13:27
  I think that works, but you're right.
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  Like a lot of times it's
• 13:31
  either completely
• 13:31
  irrelevant and it's a
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  buy-in it's for meters and
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  whether you go a one fifty
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  five pace or a two minute pace,
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  like it won't matter.
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  Or if you don't have like
• 13:44
  the biggest power output,
• 13:45
  like you're so far behind
• 13:46
  that even if you're
• 13:47
  crushing all the other movements,
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  like it doesn't matter.
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  So yeah,
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  I think just finding a more
• 13:53
  balanced workout with the
• 13:55
  machines where I think
• 13:56
  sometimes it can matter, obviously,
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  but like,
• 13:59
  just feel like oftentimes it's
• 14:01
  the big part of the workout.
• 14:05
  Um,
• 14:07
  Shut up and scribble looked at the
• 14:08
  programming from semis in like,
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  or six events, all CrossFit one rower.
• 14:16
  Yeah, I mean, before the last couple years,
• 14:20
  the rower was really the
• 14:21
  only thing you saw at competitions.
• 14:23
  Maybe the echo bike was starting to come,
• 14:27
  but... Yeah, but even, like,
• 14:30
  it was an assault bike before then,
• 14:32
  and Rogue just developed
• 14:33
  the echo bike in the last
• 14:35
  handful of years anyway.
• 14:39
  But it just seems weird.
• 14:41
  You say sponsors, but, like,
• 14:43
  all of the equipment used in
• 14:45
  the age group games was from rogue,
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  except for once.
• 14:52
  No.
• 14:53
  Yeah.
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  I don't know.
• 14:55
  In the games, the games,
• 14:56
  they use the woodway, which is rogue.
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  They use the echo bike and the echo rower.
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  And rogue isn't really a sponsor.
• 15:06
  They're,
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  they're just kind of the equipment
• 15:07
  provider.
• 15:08
  Right.
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  And,
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  It just doesn't seem like
• 15:11
  that's something that Rogue
• 15:13
  wants to advertise.
• 15:18
  Or am I wrong?
• 15:20
  It just... I don't know.
• 15:23
  I think it's pretty good
• 15:24
  advertising for them.
• 15:25
  I think it sells the machines.
• 15:28
  How do you like the Rogue Roar?
• 15:30
  I like it.
• 15:32
  Do you see any difference?
• 15:35
  No, not really.
• 15:36
  I mean, it's...
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  I mean, when you, when I first got on,
• 15:40
  I was like, Oh, it feels like the,
• 15:42
  the echo bike.
• 15:43
  Like you can tell it's that
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  like belt driven.
• 15:46
  Like it just feels almost like smoother,
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  I guess.
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  I don't know.
• 15:49
  Um, what the, I mean,
• 15:51
  the concept to rower is
• 15:53
  like really can't be beat.
• 15:54
  It's just, I like wheeling.
• 15:57
  I like wheeling the row grow around, um,
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  I like that it folds up,
• 16:01
  although I will say it's
• 16:02
  almost like a bigger footprint folded up.
• 16:05
  But the wheels on it are nice.
• 16:07
  It's not great for burpee over rower,
• 16:09
  though, because it's taller.
• 16:11
  I haven't tried the burpee
• 16:12
  over that rower.
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  Yeah.
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  The other thing that I think
• 16:18
  Siobhan did with Greg is
• 16:20
  that it's the lowest level of skill.
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  because anybody can hop on a rower.
• 16:25
  Anybody can hop on a, an echo bike.
• 16:27
  Anybody can hop on a ski erg and,
• 16:30
  and move it.
• 16:31
  Right.
• 16:32
  And even like the first time
• 16:35
  I ever saw a skier was in a
• 16:36
  competition and I won the
• 16:38
  competition just because of
• 16:40
  my size and fitness level.
• 16:43
  At that point, I didn't have,
• 16:45
  it's not a technique thing.
• 16:46
  I didn't have to learn a skill.
• 16:50
  And so I,
• 16:50
  I kind of agree with them there too.
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  Like,
• 16:54
  That's a problem.
• 16:55
  You're not really learning
• 16:57
  anything at that point.
• 16:59
  But I do think it's a great training tool.
• 17:02
  Like,
• 17:02
  it is a quick way to fatigue you for
• 17:05
  the rest of a workout.
• 17:07
  And I think... I'm kind of
• 17:12
  like what Jamie said.
• 17:13
  I think they're okay in
• 17:15
  moderation or in the right use,
• 17:18
  but it seems like we've
• 17:19
  gotten lazy with it.
• 17:21
  And just like when you want to...
• 17:23
  do a cardio aspect of the
• 17:25
  workout you just throw a
• 17:27
  machine in there instead of
• 17:29
  being more creative with
• 17:30
  the movements but anyway
• 17:39
  you're the guys the ones
• 17:40
  that have to do them and I don't so
• 17:43
  Someone, uh, Kenneth said,
• 17:44
  who would have thought Sai
• 17:45
  Wan's little nursing about
• 17:47
  machines would have been
• 17:48
  discussed for two weeks?
• 17:49
  We've been talking about
• 17:49
  this for a lot more than two weeks.
• 17:52
  Like we've been talking
• 17:52
  about this for like at
• 17:54
  least a year on this show.
• 17:56
  Jamie's been talking about
• 17:58
  this since I've known her.
• 18:00
  Yeah.
• 18:00
  Uh, and then clock on the, those machines.
• 18:05
  Yeah.
• 18:06
  Like those machines.
• 18:07
  And then what I liked about
• 18:08
  the assault runner is like
• 18:09
  you were moving it, but I still like,
• 18:11
  I want to,
• 18:13
  I don't know.
• 18:14
  I still think that a lot of those machines,
• 18:16
  like if you weigh more,
• 18:18
  you're just going to do better.
• 18:19
  And like, are we testing fitness?
• 18:21
  Are we testing who weighs
• 18:22
  the most and can just kind
• 18:23
  of have more power from that?
• 18:29
  Like people that are not
• 18:32
  necessarily fitter can just
• 18:34
  crank that echo bike,
• 18:36
  but I don't know that they're right.
• 18:39
  I mean, they're doing more work, I guess,
• 18:40
  but I mean,
• 18:41
  they're gotten better with
• 18:42
  like the scoreboards there or whatever,
• 18:44
  clocking the kills,
• 18:45
  but it's just not as
• 18:47
  visually appealing as
• 18:49
  actually watching people
• 18:50
  run and pass people.
• 18:52
  And I mean, it's just not as exciting.
• 18:54
  Or I do like,
• 18:55
  like the biking workouts at the games,
• 18:58
  like that one bike where it
• 19:00
  was like the bike with the
• 19:01
  legless in twenty twenty.
• 19:03
  Was it like this?
• 19:03
  Yeah.
• 19:04
  Yeah.
• 19:06
  The bike to work.
• 19:08
  the crit like those those
• 19:10
  were those are great like I
• 19:14
  and it has like athleticism
• 19:15
  too absolutely um yeah I
• 19:16
  think in moderation but
• 19:20
  let's be honest the the
• 19:22
  crit was awesome I loved
• 19:23
  watching it but we we at
• 19:26
  wfp for equipment
• 19:27
  malfunctions how many bikes
• 19:29
  died in that crit
• 19:32
  But that's a user error as well.
• 19:34
  It's people changing their gears wrong.
• 19:36
  It's people putting their
• 19:38
  pedal down too much as
• 19:40
  they're turning and the
• 19:40
  pedals getting stuck.
• 19:42
  That's a user for a lot of them.
• 19:45
  It was their own fault.
• 19:47
  Not changing the gears at the right time.
• 19:50
  I think so.
• 19:53
  I think one of the most fun
• 19:54
  workouts to watch ever was
• 19:56
  the rope climb bike at the twenty games.
• 20:00
  But they only had five athletes,
• 20:02
  so it was really easy to kind of do that.
• 20:14
  Heavy people aren't punished
• 20:16
  having to move being heavy
• 20:18
  when it's a machine.
• 20:19
  Absolutely.
• 20:20
  True.
• 20:22
  I know.
• 20:23
  They're usually, I mean,
• 20:26
  I feel like it's usually
• 20:27
  paired with like a barbell
• 20:28
  or something heavy already.
• 20:29
  So they're already at an
• 20:31
  advantage in that workout.
• 20:32
  All right.
• 20:39
  Okay.
• 20:40
  Next one.
• 20:41
  This is the big one.
• 20:45
  Factor fiction.
• 20:48
  Rich has the right to flex
• 20:49
  his muscles and demand to
• 20:51
  be part of the new ownership group.
• 20:56
  That is in case you wanted
• 20:57
  to know which rich.
• 20:59
  I'll say fact.
• 21:00
  I mean, I feel like, yeah, I feel like he,
• 21:03
  if that's what he wants,
• 21:05
  I I'm torn on it.
• 21:06
  If he actually like really wants.
• 21:09
  a role in it, but if he wants to,
• 21:11
  he has what?
• 21:12
  Almost half of the space?
• 21:14
  He's got so much,
• 21:16
  so many mayhem affiliate
• 21:18
  people that will follow him.
• 21:20
  I think having him be a part
• 21:23
  of the ownership group, like you said,
• 21:25
  if he wants,
• 21:28
  is extremely valuable to
• 21:30
  CrossFit because you don't
• 21:31
  want to lose that many people.
• 21:33
  Go ahead.
• 21:39
  think he has the right to
• 21:40
  flex his muscles whether
• 21:41
  it's going to work or not I
• 21:43
  have no idea right I don't
• 21:45
  know if the new owners are
• 21:46
  even going to consider it
• 21:48
  at all but I think he has
• 21:50
  the right with as long as
• 21:52
  he's been in it with the
• 21:53
  business he's built from it
• 21:55
  to have to try to have a
• 21:57
  say now whether the new
• 22:00
  owners care is another
• 22:03
  thing um I mean I think the
• 22:05
  word demand is strong but
• 22:09
  I think he should be considered.
• 22:13
  Maybe it would be a better thing there,
• 22:17
  but yeah.
• 22:19
  Did you guys see the
• 22:20
  interview with Peter and
• 22:21
  Coffee Pods and Wants?
• 22:23
  Yeah,
• 22:24
  I'm through like eighty percent of it.
• 22:25
  I'm still super confused
• 22:27
  what happened with Malik.
• 22:30
  I don't think anybody has
• 22:31
  actually said what has happened.
• 22:33
  Okay.
• 22:34
  I don't know which
• 22:35
  interviews I've watched of Rich lately.
• 22:37
  I feel like I
• 22:40
  I don't know if I watched that one or not.
• 22:43
  It was a good, it was a great interview.
• 22:44
  I probably did.
• 22:47
  Sometimes I tune out on some stuff.
• 22:49
  the big shockers of it were
• 22:51
  that he has not talked to
• 22:53
  facundo other than two
• 22:54
  times okay I didn't watch
• 22:55
  that one unless that was
• 22:56
  from another one and now
• 22:58
  it's this from peter and
• 22:59
  then that he um he did a
• 23:02
  one eighty with malik got
• 23:04
  into it realized that it
• 23:05
  wasn't what he thought it
• 23:06
  was gonna be so he's
• 23:08
  flipped the script on that
• 23:10
  and that he wants somebody
• 23:11
  from mayhem at the table
• 23:14
  And Dave it's,
• 23:16
  and he was asked if Dave was
• 23:17
  put into this role,
• 23:18
  would you be okay with it?
• 23:19
  And he said, no.
• 23:19
  Oh, wow.
• 23:21
  Because eight years of not
• 23:23
  being talked to.
• 23:25
  Fifteen years and he kind of
• 23:27
  doubled a little bit.
• 23:28
  Um, and so it's been, it's,
• 23:31
  it was really an eye opener for me.
• 23:33
  Cause it went from like here,
• 23:36
  I want this to it's a demand.
• 23:39
  It's an ultimatum.
• 23:40
  We better be at the table or we're gone.
• 23:44
  Yeah.
• 23:45
  Cause he was like, what could,
• 23:46
  like Dave could have done
• 23:47
  some stuff in the last, like post Greg,
• 23:50
  like he was like, maybe prior to Greg,
• 23:52
  Dave couldn't have done
• 23:53
  maybe certain stuff,
• 23:54
  but past the Greg era,
• 23:57
  like what's going to change
• 23:59
  now that like that he
• 24:02
  didn't do before or something like that.
• 24:04
  I was cleaning at the same time.
• 24:05
  So I'm like,
• 24:06
  I remember some parts of the
• 24:07
  conversation.
• 24:08
  Yeah.
• 24:09
  I do that too.
• 24:11
  So Jenny's in the chat.
• 24:12
  Facundo was on their show
• 24:13
  today with Glintons.
• 24:15
  I did not get a chance to
• 24:16
  watch it yet because of
• 24:18
  driving from Pennsylvania
• 24:19
  and then watching some football.
• 24:21
  But I did see her clip on
• 24:22
  Instagram where Facundo
• 24:24
  said he did text Rich since
• 24:27
  that interview.
• 24:29
  Um,
• 24:29
  and then she teased the next part that
• 24:31
  I'm dying to know the answer to, um,
• 24:34
  in their Instagram about,
• 24:35
  she asks him who for mayhem could,
• 24:39
  has the ability to be at
• 24:41
  the table and what is going
• 24:44
  on with the sale and Malik.
• 24:46
  And then she left it hanging
• 24:47
  there for you to go watch
• 24:48
  the episode to find out.
• 24:50
  So, um, I have not done that yet.
• 24:52
  Uh, it's glinting and things.
• 24:56
  Um,
• 24:59
  which I have really grown to
• 25:00
  love their podcast because
• 25:02
  they have so much
• 25:03
  excitement for this sport.
• 25:05
  And I have lost that and
• 25:07
  gotten a little bitter over the years.
• 25:09
  And I love that they are,
• 25:12
  that they have brought all
• 25:13
  that back for me.
• 25:15
  And,
• 25:16
  and so I just like it because they're
• 25:18
  looking at it with fresh eyes,
• 25:20
  which sometimes I forget.
• 25:22
  And it's a good reset for me
• 25:24
  to look at things with
• 25:25
  fresh eyes and what it
• 25:28
  and what CrossFit really is.
• 25:36
  Yeah.
• 25:36
  Cool.
• 25:38
  So, uh,
• 25:39
  jaded Scott turns into angry Scott.
• 25:40
  Yeah.
• 25:41
  I'm now calling my lunch show.
• 25:42
  Angry man yells at the clouds.
• 25:45
  Um, but I've got to get over it.
• 25:46
  I gotta, I gotta, I don't know.
• 25:49
  Maybe I don't, I don't know.
• 25:50
  It's a good stick for a while.
• 25:51
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  It may be just my own personal therapy.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  Um,
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  Rich,
• 26:00
  rich basically said he doesn't want
• 26:01
  to be like CEO or anything,
• 26:02
  but like in an, in,
• 26:03
  he wants to be in an advisory role.
• 26:06
  Andy wants someone from mayhem to be,
• 26:09
  he thinks that someone from
• 26:10
  mayhem should be CEO.
• 26:12
  Oh,
• 26:15
  because he was asked who should be CEO.
• 26:17
  And he said someone from here, but not,
• 26:23
  I mean,
• 26:23
  it's going to have gone from
• 26:24
  mayhem empire.
• 26:27
  He is still on the payroll,
• 26:28
  according to Rich, in the Peter.
• 26:30
  Now, I don't know what Facundo said today,
• 26:32
  again, on this show.
• 26:34
  Everything is moving so fast
• 26:36
  in that thing.
• 26:38
  We don't know where we are.
• 26:39
  Maybe Jenny can tell us if he is still.
• 26:42
  But Rich says he's still on
• 26:43
  the Mayhem payroll.
• 26:45
  Okay.
• 26:46
  They just hadn't talked.
• 26:50
  Yeah, exactly.
• 26:51
  Rich says he's on the payroll,
• 26:52
  but lots of September left.
• 26:56
  that's crazy.
• 27:00
  So yeah,
• 27:02
  I believe he has the right to do it again,
• 27:04
  whether people will
• 27:04
  actually listen to him or not.
• 27:05
  I don't know.
• 27:07
  I think they should.
• 27:08
  I do think he has enough
• 27:09
  influence with all of the
• 27:11
  mayhem athletes with all
• 27:13
  the mayhem programming that
• 27:15
  he does actually have.
• 27:17
  He is a going to be at the very minimum,
• 27:19
  a disruptor in the sale,
• 27:22
  unless you get him on board with you.
• 27:25
  I mean, quite honestly,
• 27:27
  if he has four thousand
• 27:29
  affiliates or whatever it is,
• 27:31
  nearly half.
• 27:34
  If if for some reason not
• 27:37
  all of them would follow him,
• 27:39
  but I think a large chunk would.
• 27:40
  But I think just doing that
• 27:42
  would precipitate another one,
• 27:45
  two thousand who have who
• 27:47
  have been watching the sale
• 27:48
  and curious what to do, you know,
• 27:51
  kind of nervous.
• 27:53
  I mean,
• 27:53
  you're liable as a brand to lose
• 27:56
  over six thousand
• 27:57
  affiliates if you don't go this route.
• 27:59
  I feel like I'm confused.
• 28:01
  This might be a silly question.
• 28:04
  When they say mayhem affiliate,
• 28:07
  does that mean that people
• 28:08
  are doing the affiliate
• 28:09
  programming or is it some
• 28:12
  or is it like another fee that you get?
• 28:14
  There are like gyms pay.
• 28:16
  There are two levels from my
• 28:18
  understanding.
• 28:19
  There are those that do the
• 28:20
  Mayhem programming.
• 28:22
  Like their affiliate class.
• 28:24
  That you sign up with for
• 28:26
  support and additional stuff.
• 28:30
  What I've heard, and again,
• 28:31
  this is not official.
• 28:34
  It's what I've heard,
• 28:36
  is that there's about a
• 28:37
  thousand that are at that
• 28:38
  upper level of full support.
• 28:41
  There's about four thousand
• 28:42
  that do the programming.
• 28:43
  That makes sense.
• 28:44
  I can see that.
• 28:47
  Yeah.
• 28:48
  I guess I don't like, is it,
• 28:49
  so it's basically like the
• 28:51
  CrossFit licensing, like the name,
• 28:55
  like the affiliate fees,
• 28:57
  but it's the mayhem
• 28:58
  affiliate fees at a cheaper price.
• 29:00
  So it kind of undercuts
• 29:02
  CrossFit or cause like people won't be an,
• 29:04
  an affiliate of CrossFit,
• 29:05
  but there'll be.
• 29:10
  Currently they're supporting CrossFit.
• 29:12
  It is just,
• 29:13
  it's another level of like
• 29:15
  support that you get from,
• 29:17
  Like a high rocks affiliate.
• 29:19
  No, it's not even like those.
• 29:21
  This is just,
• 29:23
  you are mayhem pro you're
• 29:24
  doing mayhem programming,
• 29:26
  but you want all the bells
• 29:27
  and whistles of like
• 29:28
  someone you can call and
• 29:29
  talk to different things like that.
• 29:31
  And you get,
• 29:32
  it's like a little bit higher level.
• 29:34
  They have not moved to like
• 29:35
  an affiliate model.
• 29:37
  Like we know it today.
• 29:42
  And at the current time, like,
• 29:43
  and I think it was obvious
• 29:45
  in that interview that rich
• 29:46
  wants CrossFit to do the
• 29:48
  right thing and wants it to
• 29:50
  stay where they can be supportive of it.
• 29:54
  I don't think he wants to
• 29:55
  create his own affiliate,
• 29:57
  but if worse comes to worse, he's like,
• 29:59
  we're going to do the same
• 30:00
  stuff and it's going to be CrossFit.
• 30:03
  I'm just going to take it off the signs.
• 30:06
  It's just going to say mayhem.
• 30:11
  which he's already started
• 30:12
  printing like mayhem fitness shirts.
• 30:15
  Now he did downplay that in the interview.
• 30:19
  He said it's what fit in
• 30:20
  that design of that shirt.
• 30:22
  And they've been doing it
• 30:23
  for some time on some of their shirts.
• 30:26
  He said it just something
• 30:28
  different than mayhem
• 30:29
  CrossFit all the time.
• 30:36
  So anyway, I,
• 30:39
  this story is just beginning
• 30:40
  and I'm sure we're going to see more.
• 30:43
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  Carolyn, what would you have?
• 30:45
  What's the difference in, okay.
• 30:48
  People get mad at other people,
• 30:50
  not saying CrossFit or whatever,
• 30:52
  and they don't,
• 30:52
  they don't have an affiliate.
• 30:54
  And then they're basically
• 30:57
  doing the same thing,
• 30:58
  but like mayhem affiliate, just not yet.
• 31:03
  They're not yet.
• 31:05
  Like that would be their plan though.
• 31:08
  Yes.
• 31:09
  Yes.
• 31:09
  So everything that people
• 31:10
  have been mad at other people,
• 31:12
  they would be doing that.
• 31:14
  Okay.
• 31:14
  I'm just trying to get that correctly.
• 31:16
  So it's not.
• 31:18
  yeah yeah and and everybody
• 31:20
  they're saying it in the
• 31:21
  chat but and that the
• 31:23
  austin maliolo hire was to
• 31:26
  set them up if they need to
• 31:27
  do that and basically was
• 31:29
  asked would it be an
• 31:32
  immediate thing if it
• 31:33
  didn't happen the way you
• 31:34
  wanted or would it happen
• 31:35
  over time and he was
• 31:37
  basically saying they have
• 31:38
  set it up that if they want
• 31:39
  to flip the switch tomorrow
• 31:41
  they can do it yeah
• 31:46
  But could they not?
• 31:47
  I guess not.
• 31:47
  It wouldn't be sued like
• 31:49
  other things because it's.
• 31:53
  They just they couldn't use the name.
• 31:55
  That's what's trademarked.
• 31:57
  A squad isn't trademarked or copyrighted.
• 32:00
  That's yeah,
• 32:01
  it's basically the same thing as other.
• 32:04
  You just can't use the name anymore.
• 32:06
  But he even said in the interview, like,
• 32:08
  if it meant for our
• 32:10
  athletes to be able to go
• 32:11
  to the CrossFit Games for
• 32:12
  us to be affiliated,
• 32:13
  we would stay affiliated.
• 32:15
  We would just take CrossFit
• 32:16
  off of the signage.
• 32:20
  It would be like we're an
• 32:21
  affiliate in hiding.
• 32:22
  Yeah.
• 32:28
  Yeah.
• 32:29
  Just what Jenny said there.
• 32:38
  It's just interesting
• 32:39
  because you hear people get
• 32:42
  mad at other people all the
• 32:43
  time that don't say the
• 32:44
  word CrossFit or do
• 32:45
  something else that we all
• 32:47
  know is CrossFit.
• 32:48
  I don't know.
• 32:51
  That's one of the things that upsets me.
• 32:55
  Cause I'm one of those
• 32:56
  people that get shit on for
• 32:59
  basically being a CrossFit gym, but not.
• 33:01
  And I've said this, I mean,
• 33:03
  for like the past year,
• 33:04
  I've been waiting to decide
• 33:05
  to affiliate or not,
• 33:06
  but I've been watching
• 33:07
  what's been happening with the sale.
• 33:08
  And then your,
• 33:10
  your God that you got
• 33:11
  worship is saying exactly
• 33:13
  what I'm saying.
• 33:14
  And like, it's fine.
• 33:16
  Cause it's rich.
• 33:17
  If he does it, it'll be fine.
• 33:18
  But like,
• 33:19
  I've been so like waiting to see
• 33:21
  what's happening before,
• 33:22
  like throwing forty five
• 33:23
  hundred dollars a year at,
• 33:25
  And but I'm vilified.
• 33:27
  But that's what I was getting at is like,
• 33:29
  no one's no one says
• 33:30
  anything for for like rich
• 33:33
  because he's go, you know?
• 33:36
  Yep.
• 33:37
  But it's the same thing as
• 33:38
  other people are doing.
• 33:40
  Yep.
• 33:42
  Right.
• 33:42
  But we don't.
• 33:43
  But people are doing what's
• 33:44
  best for their business, too.
• 33:45
  And like,
• 33:46
  it's expensive to that affiliation fee.
• 33:48
  Like that forty five hundred
• 33:49
  is so expensive.
• 33:50
  Yeah.
• 33:53
  Yeah.
• 33:54
  Well, let's take one example, right?
• 33:56
  So you take Malik,
• 33:58
  and he has said that
• 33:59
  CrossFit isn't good enough on its own,
• 34:02
  that you have to do longer workouts,
• 34:04
  and then when you do the longer workouts,
• 34:07
  you can eat whatever you want.
• 34:10
  That's not CrossFit.
• 34:12
  And so if someone took that
• 34:14
  over and tried to redefine
• 34:16
  what CrossFit is,
• 34:18
  I would understand
• 34:19
  completely why people would
• 34:20
  now want the name off of the building.
• 34:23
  That's not what we believe in anymore.
• 34:26
  Yes, Berkshire bought CrossFit,
• 34:29
  but they kept the pyramid the pyramid.
• 34:32
  They kept what it is the same.
• 34:35
  And then it's been a struggle to like...
• 34:37
  Do we agree with what they're doing?
• 34:39
  Yes or no?
• 34:39
  Maybe.
• 34:40
  But at least the philosophy is the same.
• 34:44
  If what Malik has been out
• 34:46
  there preaching is not CrossFit.
• 34:48
  The move max.
• 34:51
  Right.
• 34:51
  Yeah.
• 34:52
  And so if he's the one that buys it,
• 34:55
  then it makes every bit of
• 34:57
  sense in the world to not
• 34:59
  want to be a part of that anymore.
• 35:01
  Yeah, for sure.
• 35:01
  It's not what you believe.
• 35:04
  So I think that's the big difference.
• 35:06
  And Rich cited that in that
• 35:08
  interview with Peter.
• 35:10
  Like,
• 35:11
  here's a guy saying he wants to buy
• 35:12
  CrossFit,
• 35:13
  but he doesn't believe in CrossFit.
• 35:20
  But I think it went beyond Malik.
• 35:23
  Because even if... Yeah,
• 35:29
  I'm not sure if that's the only reason,
• 35:30
  though.
• 35:31
  Oh, I...
• 35:32
  If you've followed Rich for a long time,
• 35:34
  he has not been happy with
• 35:36
  the way things have gone.
• 35:37
  And he believes that he
• 35:39
  doesn't have a say that much.
• 35:41
  And he, whether, yes,
• 35:46
  he won the games four times.
• 35:48
  He did the team thing for six times.
• 35:50
  But he also is one of the
• 35:52
  biggest affiliate owners in the world.
• 35:55
  Right?
• 35:56
  That's the other piece that
• 35:57
  Rich has that other games
• 35:59
  athletes don't have.
• 36:02
  Mayhem has got to be in the
• 36:03
  top five largest CrossFit
• 36:05
  affiliates in the world.
• 36:07
  Oh, easily.
• 36:09
  So that is a big thing.
• 36:14
  And he also said Malik is
• 36:16
  not pulling the strings.
• 36:19
  That's a big deal too.
• 36:20
  Yeah.
• 36:26
  So...
• 36:31
  Yeah, if CrossFit loves sugar now.
• 36:33
  If CrossFit loves sugar,
• 36:34
  we're talking a whole
• 36:35
  different ball game now.
• 36:36
  Yeah, that's not in the hundred words.
• 36:43
  Yeah, it's like,
• 36:44
  don't look at the athletes
• 36:44
  from the games.
• 36:46
  Yeah, I mean,
• 36:47
  I think that's part of the
• 36:48
  problem with Rich, right?
• 36:49
  Like, the sport side is different,
• 36:53
  and those athletes are different,
• 36:54
  and you can't really look
• 36:55
  at them or their eating habits.
• 36:58
  Like, yeah, it's different.
• 37:00
  It's different.
• 37:01
  But if you look at the mayhem media,
• 37:05
  they've done,
• 37:06
  they've done videos on the
• 37:07
  person that came in and
• 37:08
  lost a hundred pounds.
• 37:09
  Oh yeah.
• 37:10
  You know, like he has that side of it too.
• 37:14
  So, so anyway, yeah,
• 37:21
  I think it's really
• 37:22
  complicated because none of
• 37:23
  us are in on these negotiations.
• 37:25
  All we get are the little
• 37:26
  parse pieces that come out.
• 37:29
  So to, to try to interpret everything and,
• 37:33
  And so I just,
• 37:33
  I just wanted to pose it as
• 37:35
  does rich as one of the
• 37:37
  largest affiliate owners in
• 37:38
  the world without saying that, uh,
• 37:40
  have the right to flex his
• 37:41
  muscles and say, Hey,
• 37:43
  I better be at the table or
• 37:44
  you've lost me.
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:47
  It's like not,
• 37:47
  it's like not asking your
• 37:49
  biggest customer,
• 37:50
  their opinion or what
• 37:51
  they're looking for.
• 37:56
  Yeah.
• 37:57
  Lance got fat people to ride
• 37:59
  road bikes and I wear air
• 38:01
  Jordans and can't dunk.
• 38:07
  All right.
• 38:07
  Well, that was a good one.
• 38:09
  It's just interesting
• 38:10
  because it's like we have a
• 38:11
  lot of momentum right now, I feel like,
• 38:13
  with the media team.
• 38:14
  And there's been some great
• 38:15
  content coming out.
• 38:17
  Their YouTube channel has
• 38:18
  had some good discussions
• 38:20
  on just a variety of athletes or topics.
• 38:25
  And it's going to be interesting.
• 38:26
  Whenever that sale happens, like,
• 38:28
  are they going to fire all
• 38:30
  of these people that are
• 38:32
  making these changes in media?
• 38:34
  Like, it's just...
• 38:36
  you just wonder what kind of, um,
• 38:38
  pivot they might do.
• 38:39
  Like, you just don't know.
• 38:40
  Right.
• 38:41
  That unknown is interesting.
• 38:44
  Yeah.
• 38:46
  Yeah.
• 38:47
  I,
• 38:47
  I've loved the messaging coming out from
• 38:49
  CrossFit right now.
• 38:51
  Um,
• 38:54
  and I think it's heading in the right
• 38:55
  direction.
• 38:56
  I was watching yesterday.
• 38:57
  It was on,
• 38:58
  I think it's CrossFit's YouTube
• 39:00
  channel and it was, um, um,
• 39:06
  my god I'm blanking on their
• 39:07
  names right now but they
• 39:08
  were talking about the
• 39:09
  serena ad for yeah the glp
• 39:12
  one yeah what is it called
• 39:14
  glp one or something yeah
• 39:17
  and it was a interesting
• 39:18
  discussion on that on their
• 39:20
  youtube channel and stuff
• 39:22
  that we just haven't seen
• 39:22
  from crossfit in a very you
• 39:24
  know or maybe I just wasn't
• 39:27
  paying as much attention
• 39:28
  maybe it was there all
• 39:29
  along um but yeah just just some
• 39:33
  Good discussions on some
• 39:34
  topics that are relevant
• 39:35
  right now in the space and
• 39:36
  just kind of CrossFit's
• 39:37
  opinion on it and how we
• 39:40
  can help people in
• 39:42
  different ways than resorting to that.
• 39:45
  Yeah.
• 39:50
  For everyone, right?
• 39:51
  Because for some people, it's beneficial.
• 39:54
  And maybe that now becomes the linchpin.
• 39:58
  You know,
• 39:58
  Greg had the Soda Wars in the teens.
• 40:01
  Maybe it is going up against the GLP-I's.
• 40:05
  Maybe that is the thing that
• 40:07
  brings us all together
• 40:08
  again to fight the one big
• 40:12
  problem we have in this
• 40:14
  country and that CrossFit
• 40:15
  is a solution for that.
• 40:19
  So, all right.
• 40:22
  Next fact or fiction.
• 40:26
  What a Palooza SoCal and the
• 40:28
  world fitness project
• 40:29
  finals are going back into the water.
• 40:32
  This is finally the right time.
• 40:36
  I mean, in fact,
• 40:37
  I would say they probably
• 40:38
  could have done it sooner.
• 40:39
  I mean, I think,
• 40:40
  I think Norcale doing it
• 40:42
  last year when they did it
• 40:44
  was the right time.
• 40:46
  Yeah, we did a lot like at NorCal.
• 40:48
  It was, we had like almost,
• 40:50
  I think one person on a
• 40:52
  paddleboard watching one athlete.
• 40:54
  Um,
• 40:55
  we were forced to have a personal buoy.
• 40:58
  We were at an arm's length
• 40:59
  that we wanted to from
• 41:01
  noodles that were like making, um,
• 41:04
  like the perimeter of our
• 41:07
  route so that you could touch it.
• 41:09
  Um, so that like,
• 41:12
  it was definitely much
• 41:13
  safer than a lot of.
• 41:16
  other events that I've done in the water,
• 41:18
  um, is the right time.
• 41:22
  Yeah.
• 41:22
  I mean, we don't know what it looks like.
• 41:26
  We don't know how many
• 41:27
  people they'll have on the water.
• 41:28
  What time of the day?
• 41:29
  I mean,
• 41:29
  what a Palooza has done some early
• 41:33
  mornings,
• 41:33
  but I think it's just one
• 41:34
  athlete going in the water.
• 41:35
  So if they don't have enough
• 41:36
  people to watch that,
• 41:40
  Because it's part of the team.
• 41:41
  It's just a relay, right?
• 41:42
  Yeah.
• 41:43
  Isn't it just like two?
• 41:44
  Is it just world versus?
• 41:46
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 41:47
  World.
• 41:48
  Yeah, I think it's a relay.
• 41:49
  So I think everybody from
• 41:50
  the team has to do it once.
• 41:52
  But it's only going to be
• 41:53
  two people in the water,
• 41:54
  one from each team at a time.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:58
  CrossFit says Jaws four.
• 41:59
  It's time.
• 41:59
  This time it's personal.
• 42:01
  Jaws three D was so bad.
• 42:03
  I cannot believe they made a Jaws four.
• 42:08
  Did you add the WFPs in a pool though?
• 42:12
  Right?
• 42:12
  Versus open water?
• 42:15
  I don't know.
• 42:16
  I think I think it's I
• 42:18
  thought I heard open water,
• 42:19
  but I could be wrong.
• 42:20
  And they might have just said swimming.
• 42:24
  Did you watch the podcast
• 42:25
  that Rich did with Austin
• 42:26
  and they were talking about like,
• 42:28
  awesome was talking about
• 42:29
  that swim from like, I don't know.
• 42:33
  I don't know.
• 42:34
  They were talking about how
• 42:35
  Dave was just like, you know,
• 42:36
  it was insane.
• 42:41
  Yeah.
• 42:41
  If you went back and watched
• 42:42
  like the thing,
• 42:43
  the way they talked about
• 42:44
  the swim before what happened, it's,
• 42:48
  it doesn't age well.
• 42:52
  Um, but yeah, I,
• 42:54
  I think it's time to go
• 42:55
  back in the water.
• 42:55
  I think this is a good, you know,
• 42:57
  unlike our, our machine discussion,
• 42:59
  this is a good test of fitness.
• 43:02
  Um, and I think it is something that,
• 43:04
  that helps with the programming and, um,
• 43:07
  I'm glad they, they're,
• 43:10
  they're starting to bring it back.
• 43:12
  I do think that there needs
• 43:13
  to be a list of.
• 43:16
  criteria for like different
• 43:18
  competitions to use.
• 43:19
  I mean,
• 43:20
  I'm sure any competition that uses
• 43:22
  the name CrossFit can't do swimming yet,
• 43:26
  but Waterpalooza is not
• 43:27
  using the term CrossFit and
• 43:29
  neither is WFP,
• 43:29
  so they can technically do
• 43:31
  their own things, right?
• 43:32
  But if you are under
• 43:33
  like a CrossFit licensing event.
• 43:35
  I don't think that you've
• 43:36
  had the green light yet to
• 43:38
  do a swimming event,
• 43:40
  but I still think like a
• 43:41
  good practice of like,
• 43:43
  there should be a list of like,
• 43:44
  if you're doing open water,
• 43:45
  if you have this many athletes,
• 43:46
  you need this much on the water.
• 43:47
  Like that can be shared with
• 43:49
  all of competitions that
• 43:50
  are around the world that
• 43:51
  are doing CrossFit events.
• 43:55
  I think that should
• 43:56
  definitely be out there.
• 43:57
  And I haven't seen anything
• 43:58
  that's like official on like,
• 44:00
  what are the best practices and,
• 44:03
  all of that um it is a pool
• 44:11
  in another country that's
• 44:12
  what I thought um and craig
• 44:13
  makes a good or I think it
• 44:15
  was craig someone said I
• 44:16
  don't know someone made a
• 44:18
  good point it is going to
• 44:19
  be winter time in december
• 44:21
  uh where in copenhagen
• 44:23
  probably not the ideal time
• 44:24
  to open water swim yeah sure ice bath go
• 44:34
  Remember when I could use,
• 44:36
  when I one could use the word CrossFit?
• 44:39
  That's how we ended up with OCT.
• 44:40
  What's OCT?
• 44:41
  Absolute course?
• 44:47
  No, it's James Fitzgerald's OPT.
• 44:49
  OPEX?
• 44:49
  I don't know what they're saying.
• 44:55
  I don't know.
• 44:59
  don't know I shouldn't have
• 45:00
  read it because I just
• 45:02
  pulled it up oh see throw
• 45:06
  down oh orange county okay
• 45:14
  so lots of available
• 45:19
  lifeguards yes yeah uh
• 45:25
  maybe I should stop
• 45:30
  There we go.
• 45:31
  All right.
• 45:33
  So there's that.
• 45:33
  We have one last one just
• 45:34
  for fun because we're in
• 45:36
  the off season and there's not a lot of,
• 45:38
  a lot of news other than
• 45:39
  what we've already talked about.
• 45:41
  Factor fiction.
• 45:42
  Reebok made the original CrossFit shoe.
• 45:45
  Some have come close,
• 45:46
  but none have surpassed them.
• 45:50
  I mean, Reebok is always reliable to me.
• 45:53
  Like I've had every version
• 45:56
  of the Reeboks and they're,
• 45:58
  They're always good.
• 45:59
  Like I've worn other shoes,
• 46:00
  just like sponsorship wise and stuff.
• 46:03
  And they're great,
• 46:04
  but I can never say a bad
• 46:05
  thing about any of the
• 46:06
  Reebok ones really that I've had.
• 46:08
  Um, it's a great shoe.
• 46:11
  I don't know.
• 46:13
  I'm sure there's as good.
• 46:16
  Yeah.
• 46:16
  They're getting closer.
• 46:17
  I feel like there's some getting close,
• 46:18
  but yeah, like those twos,
• 46:21
  there's not much better.
• 46:26
  Yeah.
• 46:26
  I, I've, I like the floors a lot.
• 46:29
  I thought the fours were good.
• 46:33
  Two.
• 46:34
  I missed the twos.
• 46:36
  I was a three, four guy, even the fives.
• 46:42
  And then the eights,
• 46:43
  was it the eights or the nines?
• 46:45
  Nines.
• 46:46
  Nines are the ones I have a ton of.
• 46:48
  Yeah.
• 46:49
  I like the nines.
• 46:50
  Yeah.
• 46:51
  I like the nines a lot.
• 46:54
  And as much as I've liked
• 46:56
  the other shoes I've had, like,
• 46:58
  I really like the Adidas
• 46:59
  drop sets and I really like the rad.
• 47:03
  Yeah.
• 47:04
  I like, I had rad all of last year.
• 47:05
  I like those a lot too.
• 47:06
  Um, I, when, if I always resort back to my,
• 47:11
  my Reeboks, uh,
• 47:12
  just if I want to feel right.
• 47:18
  What, uh, they were able,
• 47:22
  they were our shoes, uh,
• 47:23
  Yeah,
• 47:24
  I feel like that's how you can spot a
• 47:25
  true CrossFitter.
• 47:26
  Like, now when I see other, like,
• 47:28
  Nike Metcons, like,
• 47:30
  I see tennis kids wearing Nike Metcons.
• 47:32
  Like, I'm like, I don't, you're,
• 47:35
  unless you have a, like, a Nano,
• 47:38
  a Nano on, I don't think you're,
• 47:41
  I don't know.
• 47:44
  I have a pair of Nano, too, in the closet,
• 47:46
  worn twice.
• 47:47
  In some nines, yes,
• 47:48
  there are better shoes.
• 47:50
  Oh, you think there are better shoes?
• 47:52
  Hmm.
• 47:53
  I don't know.
• 47:54
  I think those are about the best,
• 47:55
  best two.
• 47:58
  Like I do like other shoes.
• 47:59
  Like I, I love the one,
• 48:00
  like the tier ones that I wear.
• 48:02
  I like the rad ones that
• 48:03
  I've worn and Reeboks.
• 48:06
  Like those have been the
• 48:06
  main three that I've worn
• 48:08
  my whole career.
• 48:09
  But like Reebok was my shoe for,
• 48:12
  of my career,
• 48:13
  probably eight to nine years
• 48:16
  where I only wore Reebok.
• 48:19
  understand I miss being able
• 48:20
  to do custom nanos I do too
• 48:22
  that was fun all right so
• 48:30
  the reebok batting average
• 48:31
  is unmatched that's a great
• 48:32
  point yeah they've
• 48:34
  definitely had more hits
• 48:35
  than misses john gets it
• 48:45
  I walk up to a guy in a
• 48:46
  store that had on nanos
• 48:48
  this was just asked him
• 48:50
  what box do you go to we
• 48:51
  both started laughing
• 48:52
  exactly yeah all right
• 49:03
  there we go okay so that is
• 49:07
  factor fiction for this
• 49:08
  week is anyone watching the
• 49:09
  vmas are we interrupting the vmas
• 49:16
  That's something I watch on
• 49:18
  record so I can skip the
• 49:21
  awards and just go to the performances.
• 49:25
  All right.
• 49:27
  Quick hit news from the week.
• 49:30
  Annie sells Reykjavik to BKG.
• 49:33
  Thoughts on that?
• 49:36
  It just makes me think she
• 49:37
  is just checked out.
• 49:40
  When you think about that, Jim,
• 49:41
  you think about the daughters.
• 49:43
  Do you think about
• 49:44
  them doing workouts on that
• 49:46
  pull up bar that like they're like all on,
• 49:50
  um,
• 49:51
  they want to people that go there from
• 49:52
  the airport.
• 49:53
  Like, I think,
• 49:54
  I think it's like the most
• 49:55
  Ubered place in that city
• 49:57
  to go from that airport to that gym.
• 49:58
  Um, but I mean, if someone else is going,
• 50:02
  it wants to,
• 50:04
  is going to do a better job and is more,
• 50:06
  you know,
• 50:07
  driven to to continue the
• 50:09
  reign like she's obviously
• 50:10
  like she started her family
• 50:12
  um like maybe she has other
• 50:14
  priorities that she wants
• 50:15
  to attend but I think
• 50:17
  whenever you have someone
• 50:18
  that's hungry to get
• 50:19
  started something and I
• 50:21
  mean the blueprints there
• 50:22
  for the success of that gym
• 50:24
  um I mean it's bkg right
• 50:27
  it's going into great like
• 50:30
  it's not going to anyone
• 50:31
  that doesn't know well
• 50:34
  history and stuff it's the
• 50:36
  third baby I think it's
• 50:37
  probably the right time
• 50:38
  like you she wants to focus
• 50:39
  on her family that's fair
• 50:41
  yeah yeah like we don't
• 50:42
  really have the the
• 50:43
  reasonings like people will
• 50:44
  assume she's kind of gone
• 50:48
  away from the cross it but
• 50:49
  like it could just be that
• 50:50
  she wants to do other
• 50:51
  things or she sees the
• 50:53
  writing on the wall who
• 50:56
  knows who knows yeah
• 51:00
  Because of everything going on around it,
• 51:01
  you can speculate in a
• 51:03
  million different directions.
• 51:04
  She did come on, I think,
• 51:05
  BKG's post and say that it was just time.
• 51:09
  Her third baby is on the way.
• 51:10
  She just cannot devote the
• 51:12
  time that she could before.
• 51:13
  And she wanted to make sure
• 51:15
  that it was going in the right hands.
• 51:19
  Um, and BKG's post was awesome, um,
• 51:21
  that he wants to get back to coaching,
• 51:23
  but by no means does this
• 51:24
  mean he is retiring.
• 51:26
  He may be old, but he's not done.
• 51:28
  I think it was what he said.
• 51:30
  Um, but you know, and we,
• 51:33
  but the other stuff we
• 51:34
  could speculate just like rich,
• 51:35
  maybe she's fed up with everything.
• 51:38
  She's probably one of the
• 51:38
  top five largest affiliate
• 51:40
  owners in the world too.
• 51:42
  Yeah.
• 51:43
  And isn't it ironic that
• 51:44
  they are probably two of
• 51:45
  the top five all-time largest affiliates,
• 51:49
  and they won their first
• 51:50
  CrossFit Games in the same year?
• 52:00
  That is crazy.
• 52:01
  Yeah.
• 52:01
  Jamie's comment about the VMAs,
• 52:03
  I'm trying to find...
• 52:06
  Uh, no, Jamie,
• 52:07
  we've been waiting all night for us.
• 52:11
  Yeah.
• 52:12
  For Sunday night.
• 52:13
  He wanted me to sing it and I already, um,
• 52:17
  and Ken says, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.
• 52:22
  Um, no, a lot of like,
• 52:24
  well wishes a great move for Annie.
• 52:27
  Um, agreed.
• 52:30
  Hope she takes the time to
• 52:31
  enjoy motherhood.
• 52:33
  Um,
• 52:35
  and uh bkg will do a great
• 52:36
  job and she and pkg have
• 52:44
  had the same coach forever
• 52:46
  yami's been their coach all
• 52:48
  along uh so and then cross
• 52:53
  fat says alliance fans have
• 52:55
  canceled the season already
• 52:55
  they're watching the vmas
• 52:56
  oh that's that's not what
• 52:57
  he said I'm not watching
• 52:58
  the vmas I watched the game it was rough
• 53:07
  All right.
• 53:08
  So next thing is Rogue has
• 53:12
  been sending out invites to
• 53:14
  the Rogue Invitational,
• 53:17
  as well as they have
• 53:18
  launched the queue for qualifiers.
• 53:22
  Oh, it's done now?
• 53:23
  Yeah.
• 53:24
  Until tomorrow.
• 53:25
  No, tonight at eight.
• 53:26
  Oh, tonight at eight.
• 53:27
  I added that in the notes to
• 53:28
  look at the leaderboard.
• 53:29
  Okay.
• 53:31
  All right.
• 53:32
  So let's look at the invitees first,
• 53:34
  since I have that up already.
• 53:36
  And then I'll pull up the leaderboard.
• 53:40
  Which will change definitely
• 53:41
  for Rogue because people
• 53:43
  will not weigh their
• 53:44
  weights and forget to do
• 53:45
  that and just point their
• 53:47
  videos to their weights.
• 53:48
  And there's a lot of stuff
• 53:50
  you got to follow.
• 53:52
  So it started with Grace Walton,
• 53:55
  then Colton Mertens, Paige Semenza,
• 53:58
  Lucy Campbell, Guy Mejeros,
• 54:02
  Olivia Kerstetter, Chandler Smith,
• 54:05
  Abby Domet, Noah Olson, Danny Spiegel,
• 54:09
  Samuel Quant.
• 54:11
  Those are the people who
• 54:12
  have gotten their invites already.
• 54:15
  And it's really weird
• 54:16
  because they're doing this
• 54:18
  rogue ranking now that goes
• 54:20
  back in history five years.
• 54:23
  And I think there's some
• 54:25
  fault with it when you see
• 54:26
  who's on the list.
• 54:27
  For sure.
• 54:28
  Did you skip Heppelainen for a reason?
• 54:32
  Did I skip Heppelainen?
• 54:34
  Oh, he got dark on me.
• 54:36
  Heinrich Heipleinen as well.
• 54:38
  Sorry.
• 54:39
  Right there.
• 54:41
  So that one sort of shocked me.
• 54:44
  So it was a year ago at
• 54:46
  Rogue that he tore his Achilles,
• 54:48
  and now he's back to compete again.
• 54:53
  I think that's... Yeah,
• 54:55
  we haven't heard from him, really.
• 54:57
  Right.
• 54:58
  It's up to him.
• 54:59
  He can do whatever he wants to do.
• 55:01
  But when I talked to Chelsea Nicholas,
• 55:03
  who is an age group athlete
• 55:05
  in the thirty-five to thirty-nine,
• 55:06
  she tore her Achilles at
• 55:07
  the Games two or three years ago.
• 55:10
  her doctor who she had the
• 55:12
  same surgery Aaron Rogers
• 55:13
  had said that it is not
• 55:15
  fully healed for eighteen
• 55:16
  months and there's nothing
• 55:18
  you can do to build it up
• 55:19
  it is a tendon it is not a
• 55:21
  muscle and uh that just
• 55:24
  seems scary to me but it's
• 55:26
  his body he can do William
• 55:27
  Leahy came back pretty
• 55:29
  early he was doing some
• 55:30
  great stuff I was shocked
• 55:32
  how quickly Leahy came back
• 55:35
  but yeah I was surprised to
• 55:36
  see him back um
• 55:40
  But, I mean, if he's back,
• 55:42
  good on him for doing the
• 55:43
  right rehab and getting himself ready.
• 55:48
  And not having a setback, Gabby.
• 55:53
  We do have breaking news.
• 55:55
  This just in,
• 55:55
  Rich has announced that he
• 55:56
  may withdraw support for
• 55:57
  the Lions if he doesn't
• 55:59
  approve their offensive schemes.
• 56:05
  All right, there is the cue.
• 56:10
  But I cannot, I don't see the leaderboard.
• 56:16
  Go to the rogue.
• 56:17
  Just go to the rogue website,
• 56:19
  search the queue at the top.
• 56:23
  And then scroll down and
• 56:25
  eventually you'll see like
• 56:29
  a leaderboard option.
• 56:33
  I am not getting that.
• 56:34
  Okay.
• 56:36
  Search for the queue in robe, the queue.
• 56:40
  So on it, go on rogue fitness.
• 56:43
  I'm going to show you, cause I am there.
• 56:45
  Okay.
• 56:45
  Um, I go and go on the whiteboard normally,
• 56:50
  but so, okay.
• 56:52
  You're at the queue is now search,
• 56:55
  search at the top.
• 56:57
  Yeah.
• 56:57
  The queue.
• 57:11
  Okay, click on that one, the Q, qualifier.
• 57:18
  Click on it.
• 57:19
  Yeah, scroll down.
• 57:22
  Scroll, scroll.
• 57:25
  Wait, where's yours?
• 57:26
  Was it that link up there, right there?
• 57:28
  Sure, go to that.
• 57:29
  But no, that's the scorecard.
• 57:30
  That's not it.
• 57:31
  I can't.
• 57:31
  Why is yours different than mine?
• 57:34
  Because I normally can go... Oh,
• 57:37
  leaderboard, right there.
• 57:38
  Yeah, leaderboard.
• 57:39
  Yep.
• 57:39
  Okay.
• 57:42
  so that's the men's all
• 57:43
  right yeah I feel like I'm
• 57:47
  timing my dad all right
• 57:51
  again this is preliminary
• 57:53
  and we know that people get
• 57:55
  booted all the time for not
• 57:58
  doing the right thing we're
• 57:59
  assuming five spots we're
• 58:01
  assuming the invite is
• 58:02
  fifteen from their um
• 58:09
  Games leaderboard thingy
• 58:11
  slash also performing
• 58:13
  athletes that they like.
• 58:15
  Saxon Pancheck is in first.
• 58:19
  Saxon Pancheck in first.
• 58:20
  Aldis Upenix in second.
• 58:23
  I thought you were just
• 58:23
  zooming right into Saxon
• 58:25
  and we were just going to
• 58:26
  go as close as possible
• 58:28
  because you're happy.
• 58:31
  No, just so everybody could see.
• 58:33
  Fabian Hermans in third,
• 58:35
  Enrico Zanoni in fourth,
• 58:36
  Tom Kingdon in fifth.
• 58:42
  Some notables right outside the top five,
• 58:45
  Jorge Fernandez, Guillaume Briand,
• 58:48
  Ben Fowler, Travis Mayer, Georges Karavas,
• 58:51
  Nate Ackerman.
• 58:57
  If we go to the women...
• 59:03
  Elisa Fuliano dominating all
• 59:06
  of the non-CrossFit events again.
• 59:09
  In first, Paige Powers second.
• 59:11
  Mathilde Garnes in third.
• 59:13
  Aline Wurz in fourth.
• 59:14
  Jamie Simmons fifth.
• 59:16
  Who just withdrew from WFP.
• 59:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 59:17
  And then... Yeah,
• 59:18
  I was... How do you...
• 59:24
  You're injured at WFP.
• 59:25
  Yeah.
• 59:26
  But then finished fifth in
• 59:28
  the qualifier for Rogue.
• 59:29
  After...
• 59:30
  She had written that
• 59:32
  something was bothering her
• 59:33
  and then she would get ready for Rogue.
• 59:35
  She dropped out and wanted
• 59:37
  to just focus on the Rogue
• 59:38
  qualifier in her post from WFP.
• 59:44
  Paige Powers versus Rogue
• 59:45
  video submission system.
• 59:47
  Yikes.
• 59:49
  I don't think it was the video issue.
• 59:51
  It was the extension of her
• 59:53
  hips on a block step up.
• 59:55
  Which one?
• 59:57
  Paige Powers.
• 59:58
  Oh, yeah.
• 59:59
  Yeah, Vela Wilkinson, Maddie Fouts,
• 1:00:02
  Kyra Milligan, Sydney Wells in eleventh.
• 1:00:04
  And that's probably as low
• 1:00:06
  as we'll get to.
• 1:00:08
  I mean, we've seen some,
• 1:00:10
  I think it was last year or
• 1:00:11
  the year before,
• 1:00:12
  someone as far as eleventh place, I think,
• 1:00:15
  made it all the way into the top five.
• 1:00:19
  It could have been even
• 1:00:20
  further with all the
• 1:00:20
  changes that Rogue penalized people for.
• 1:00:25
  So it will be interesting to
• 1:00:26
  see how much this leaderboard changes.
• 1:00:30
  Isn't it amazing how stacked
• 1:00:31
  the women's side is?
• 1:00:32
  I mean,
• 1:00:33
  nice to see Paige back on track
• 1:00:35
  after the baby.
• 1:00:37
  She won WFP Challenger.
• 1:00:43
  Matilda Garnes has been
• 1:00:44
  injured a lot of the year,
• 1:00:45
  I think this year.
• 1:00:46
  So this will be her big
• 1:00:49
  event of the year that we haven't seen.
• 1:00:51
  A lean girl does really well
• 1:00:53
  in the open and a lot of online stuff.
• 1:00:55
  She's got a really good engine,
• 1:00:57
  some good gymnastics.
• 1:00:59
  And then Fuliano has been
• 1:01:02
  doing really well all year,
• 1:01:03
  really anything that she's showed up.
• 1:01:05
  I don't think any huge surprises there.
• 1:01:10
  Good athletes.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  And then Saxton on the boys.
• 1:01:15
  That's awesome.
• 1:01:16
  Good for him.
• 1:01:19
  Wait, it's Garness?
• 1:01:20
  Yes.
• 1:01:20
  Garness.
• 1:01:22
  I've interviewed her a bunch of times.
• 1:01:24
  It is Mathilde Garnes.
• 1:01:27
  What did I say?
• 1:01:27
  Did I say Garnes or Garnes?
• 1:01:28
  I don't even know what I said.
• 1:01:30
  I used to say Mathilde Garnes,
• 1:01:32
  but she corrected me.
• 1:01:34
  And...
• 1:01:38
  Cause Jamie, Jamie, uh,
• 1:01:41
  Simmons wrote after not
• 1:01:42
  being able to give my all
• 1:01:44
  an event to speaking about
• 1:01:45
  like WFP and knowing that I
• 1:01:47
  couldn't qualify for the
• 1:01:49
  finals in Copenhagen,
• 1:01:50
  I made the decision to
• 1:01:51
  withdraw and focus on the
• 1:01:52
  road qualifiers next weekend.
• 1:01:55
  That's what she had written.
• 1:01:57
  Um, as to why she withdrew.
• 1:02:01
  I don't remember what the
• 1:02:01
  second event was there.
• 1:02:03
  That was that long event.
• 1:02:05
  Well,
• 1:02:05
  Bernie Gannon says the Vatican is
• 1:02:07
  sending an envoy to
• 1:02:08
  investigate Jamie's
• 1:02:09
  miraculous recovery from the WFP injury.
• 1:02:13
  So this isn't on our agenda,
• 1:02:16
  but now that that's been
• 1:02:17
  brought up in the way she said that,
• 1:02:18
  that is the failing of a
• 1:02:21
  guaranteed contract system.
• 1:02:25
  Yep.
• 1:02:27
  Is Jamie Simmons a pro?
• 1:02:29
  No.
• 1:02:30
  Never mind.
• 1:02:33
  She wasn't at the first one,
• 1:02:34
  so she had no shot of
• 1:02:35
  making it to the second one.
• 1:02:37
  Didn't have enough points,
• 1:02:38
  and that's why she could withdraw,
• 1:02:40
  knowing that maybe
• 1:02:42
  something was bothering her,
• 1:02:43
  and she was like,
• 1:02:43
  let me just take this off
• 1:02:45
  and focus on the Rogue qualifier.
• 1:02:48
  What sucks is she took a
• 1:02:50
  spot away from somebody
• 1:02:51
  else who may have wanted to
• 1:02:52
  give it their all.
• 1:02:53
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Um...
• 1:02:57
  But you still see a lot of
• 1:02:59
  athletes that were just
• 1:03:01
  competing last weekend.
• 1:03:04
  I've competed a lot this month,
• 1:03:05
  and they were still fine to
• 1:03:07
  do the qualifiers.
• 1:03:11
  Isn't that basically what
• 1:03:11
  Jeff said a year ago,
• 1:03:12
  athletes making calculated choices?
• 1:03:16
  Pretty much.
• 1:03:19
  I do think it is,
• 1:03:20
  and we're going to talk
• 1:03:21
  about that in a second,
• 1:03:22
  so I'm just going to shut up.
• 1:03:24
  Anyway, so that was Rogue.
• 1:03:26
  Looks like pretty heavy
• 1:03:28
  hitters on the women's side
• 1:03:29
  for sure in the qualifier.
• 1:03:31
  Saxon's a pretty heavy
• 1:03:32
  hitter on the men's side.
• 1:03:34
  And then you have some games
• 1:03:36
  athletes in the rest of the
• 1:03:38
  top five for sure.
• 1:03:40
  So I'm sure things are going
• 1:03:42
  to be great for them.
• 1:03:45
  But I did see that like
• 1:03:47
  Paige Semenza stood out in
• 1:03:50
  the people who were invited.
• 1:03:53
  I saw someone say that in the chat.
• 1:03:56
  I do agree with that.
• 1:03:57
  She has not had a
• 1:03:58
  top-fifteen kind of performance.
• 1:04:02
  And I love Paige.
• 1:04:02
  She's one of my favorite
• 1:04:03
  people on the planet.
• 1:04:06
  But I just don't see how you
• 1:04:07
  qualify for Rogue as an
• 1:04:10
  invitee when you really
• 1:04:12
  haven't had a top-fifteen
• 1:04:13
  performance in any of the big events.
• 1:04:19
  And if she has, it's been one.
• 1:04:26
  Now,
• 1:04:26
  she usually does well at Rogue because
• 1:04:29
  they do a little bit to
• 1:04:32
  show some athleticism,
• 1:04:34
  and she gets an opportunity
• 1:04:36
  to do that there.
• 1:04:39
  And I'm not just picking on her.
• 1:04:41
  The names that are popping
• 1:04:43
  up just seem weird.
• 1:04:47
  And I haven't like looked at
• 1:04:49
  each name at what their
• 1:04:50
  qualifications are individually.
• 1:04:53
  It just seems,
• 1:04:55
  but it is an invitational
• 1:04:56
  and they can invite whoever they want.
• 1:04:58
  I know.
• 1:04:59
  I feel like this is an issue every year.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Yep.
• 1:05:06
  It is.
• 1:05:06
  It is theirs to do as they wish.
• 1:05:12
  And it's still one of the
• 1:05:13
  most fun events to watch.
• 1:05:15
  And they do the best job of
• 1:05:16
  broadcasting it.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:05:23
  All right.
• 1:05:23
  So Adaptive Athletes are
• 1:05:26
  going in Vegas this week
• 1:05:29
  for their CrossFit Games.
• 1:05:30
  So we want to wish all of
• 1:05:32
  them good luck as they head out to Vegas.
• 1:05:36
  It is going to be...
• 1:05:40
  broadcast and hosted by bill
• 1:05:42
  grundler and jeremy austin
• 1:05:44
  again who did yeoman's work
• 1:05:46
  last year going division
• 1:05:48
  every division on and did a
• 1:05:51
  great job uh so very
• 1:05:54
  interesting uh discussion
• 1:05:58
  and uh I think that's going
• 1:06:00
  to be fun to watch the next
• 1:06:03
  thing is did you guys see
• 1:06:04
  the mega ramp that rich did
• 1:06:09
  Are you talking about the gymnastics?
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, the Rich Froning mega ramp.
• 1:06:15
  I don't understand people that do that.
• 1:06:18
  There's so much time to take
• 1:06:19
  all that equipment.
• 1:06:20
  And I'm like, for what?
• 1:06:22
  So the way I describe this
• 1:06:25
  is Hillary went to the store and said,
• 1:06:29
  hey, guys,
• 1:06:29
  we have a short amount of time.
• 1:06:31
  I have this really cool idea.
• 1:06:34
  But I didn't even know it was that hard.
• 1:06:35
  For them, they do that stuff all the time.
• 1:06:39
  It's so much work,
• 1:06:41
  and it's not that difficult.
• 1:06:43
  That's difficult, the backwards.
• 1:06:44
  Well, on Peter's podcast,
• 1:06:50
  Rich said that he thinks he
• 1:06:51
  can get it to three sets
• 1:06:55
  all together as one big ramp.
• 1:06:58
  I mean, he's great on his hands.
• 1:06:59
  You would not be surprised at all.
• 1:07:04
  That was impressive.
• 1:07:05
  Too much work.
• 1:07:07
  That is too much work.
• 1:07:08
  It's just unnecessary.
• 1:07:09
  It must be nice to have all
• 1:07:10
  that equipment to be able to do that.
• 1:07:13
  The amount of equipment they
• 1:07:14
  have there is so crazy.
• 1:07:16
  That gym is so just decked out.
• 1:07:19
  It's so beautiful.
• 1:07:20
  It's just don't give anyone ideas.
• 1:07:22
  It's just silly.
• 1:07:23
  Just don't.
• 1:07:27
  Have you been there before, Jamie,
• 1:07:28
  to Mayhem?
• 1:07:30
  It is so massive.
• 1:07:32
  it's so nice that's where we
• 1:07:33
  did legends oh that's right
• 1:07:40
  yeah they set it up because
• 1:07:41
  they can yeah I think it's
• 1:07:45
  a guy thing we love to
• 1:07:46
  build structures like that
• 1:07:47
  then talk about it hey I
• 1:07:52
  know my friends and I did
• 1:07:53
  goofy stuff when the gym
• 1:07:57
  owner would be like hey I
• 1:07:58
  got a road can you guys
• 1:07:59
  lock up of course we can
• 1:08:03
  Yeah,
• 1:08:03
  that is an open gym sesh if I've ever
• 1:08:05
  seen one right there,
• 1:08:07
  playing with all the equipment.
• 1:08:10
  All right.
• 1:08:12
  I skipped over the Wadapalooza workouts,
• 1:08:15
  so we'll do those real quick.
• 1:08:19
  That's this weekend, right?
• 1:08:22
  Wadapalooza?
• 1:08:24
  SoCal?
• 1:08:25
  I thought it was later.
• 1:08:28
  Maybe it's later.
• 1:08:29
  I don't know.
• 1:08:33
  Does it say in the... When is SoCal?
• 1:08:36
  I know it's in September.
• 1:08:37
  I don't know why I have...
• 1:08:38
  Maybe I have the thirteenth
• 1:08:39
  because it's the adaptive
• 1:08:40
  games this weekend.
• 1:08:42
  It is adaptive this weekend.
• 1:08:43
  Maybe that's what I was thinking.
• 1:08:47
  The nineteenth through the twenty-first.
• 1:08:50
  Okay.
• 1:08:51
  Yeah, I got that one mixed up.
• 1:08:54
  Adapted and then SoCal.
• 1:08:55
  Okay.
• 1:08:56
  So this is the first workout.
• 1:08:59
  It is,
• 1:09:00
  it looks like everybody like six men,
• 1:09:03
  six women, a relay of echo on Fran,
• 1:09:09
  twenty one, fifty nine thrusters,
• 1:09:10
  chest to bar pull ups and Cal echo bike.
• 1:09:14
  That's a workout they've
• 1:09:15
  done before years ago.
• 1:09:16
  I think one thirty five ninety five.
• 1:09:22
  It's a gross one.
• 1:09:23
  That is gross.
• 1:09:27
  any thoughts on that one at all?
• 1:09:28
  That's difficult.
• 1:09:29
  I think it was Justin was
• 1:09:32
  saying that that was,
• 1:09:33
  I don't know which one on
• 1:09:34
  the boys interrupted was
• 1:09:35
  saying that this is the
• 1:09:36
  worst workout that they've ever done.
• 1:09:37
  I want to say it was Justin that said it.
• 1:09:38
  Maybe.
• 1:09:41
  Yeah.
• 1:09:43
  And I mean,
• 1:09:43
  they've done a lot of workouts.
• 1:09:44
  Um, yeah, that's, it's a nasty one.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah, no, thank you.
• 1:09:52
  Um, the next workout is the only show.
• 1:09:59
  Jamie's favorite.
• 1:10:00
  We always have a lift.
• 1:10:02
  It is for total combined load.
• 1:10:04
  One man, one woman, one rep max snatch.
• 1:10:07
  One man, one woman,
• 1:10:08
  one rep max clean and jerk.
• 1:10:10
  And then head to head, one versus one.
• 1:10:12
  Man versus man,
• 1:10:13
  then female versus female Isabel.
• 1:10:16
  And then man versus man,
• 1:10:17
  then female versus female Grace.
• 1:10:19
  Okay.
• 1:10:21
  I like that part.
• 1:10:22
  So this is all for the super team stuff,
• 1:10:27
  these workouts?
• 1:10:28
  They also have a competition
• 1:10:29
  with other athletes, right,
• 1:10:31
  that are there?
• 1:10:31
  Or is it just?
• 1:10:32
  I think it's teams.
• 1:10:33
  Everything's teams.
• 1:10:34
  Okay.
• 1:10:35
  No individuals at that one?
• 1:10:37
  I don't think so.
• 1:10:41
  So that's event three.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah, I mean, team world is tough to beat.
• 1:10:49
  I think what makes it
• 1:10:50
  interesting is the Isabel Grace part.
• 1:10:53
  Isabel cycling.
• 1:10:58
  Then we have the SkiErg Shootout.
• 1:11:02
  So basically a biathlon done
• 1:11:05
  CrossFit style,
• 1:11:06
  twenty one eighteen calorie ski erg,
• 1:11:09
  forty foot unbroken
• 1:11:10
  handstand walk slalom course,
• 1:11:12
  seven erg shoot shot attempts.
• 1:11:15
  So they have an erg gun that
• 1:11:18
  you shoot and you take your seven shots.
• 1:11:21
  It's like a laser.
• 1:11:22
  So I tried it at the age group.
• 1:11:24
  Did you try it?
• 1:11:25
  I didn't try it.
• 1:11:25
  I tried to get the people
• 1:11:27
  that were there to watch me.
• 1:11:28
  I tried to get them to sign up for it.
• 1:11:30
  That looked cool.
• 1:11:31
  So Emily Rolfe,
• 1:11:32
  her husband is maybe an
• 1:11:36
  investor or part owner.
• 1:11:37
  I don't want to miss say whatever he did.
• 1:11:41
  So he was showing me I was so bad at it.
• 1:11:44
  Really?
• 1:11:45
  Well, my arms was right after that one,
• 1:11:48
  our one workout, uh, number three,
• 1:11:49
  like my arms were dead.
• 1:11:50
  I was not holding steady.
• 1:11:52
  I was having trouble
• 1:11:53
  extending my elbows at that point.
• 1:11:54
  Um, but I was not good at all, but yeah.
• 1:11:59
  So this is, um,
• 1:12:00
  it is the first team to
• 1:12:01
  twenty successful target hits.
• 1:12:03
  Okay.
• 1:12:03
  Waterfall style workout.
• 1:12:06
  All I can think is duck hunt.
• 1:12:09
  when I see the if it's
• 1:12:10
  anything like that I'm in
• 1:12:12
  I'm sure they'll get some
• 1:12:13
  time to practice too maybe
• 1:12:15
  like the night before and a
• 1:12:16
  couple nights before you
• 1:12:18
  hope because you don't want
• 1:12:19
  to just go out there and
• 1:12:21
  then yeah like the dog to
• 1:12:22
  laugh at her from the
• 1:12:24
  behind the bushes all right
• 1:12:28
  next one is four-legged
• 1:12:29
  relay this is the open water swim
• 1:12:33
  for total time athlete one
• 1:12:36
  so it is not a relay it is
• 1:12:37
  athlete one three hundred
• 1:12:38
  meter open water swim
• 1:12:39
  that's what I saw it was
• 1:12:40
  just one athlete that's
• 1:12:41
  doing it so athlete two
• 1:12:43
  three thousand or twenty
• 1:12:45
  four hundred skier athlete
• 1:12:46
  three four thousand thirty
• 1:12:48
  two hundred echo row and
• 1:12:50
  athlete four four thousand
• 1:12:51
  meter beach run
• 1:12:53
  Tia's like, I'll do,
• 1:12:54
  I'll do the water and the run.
• 1:12:57
  Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  Tia can do like all of it.
• 1:12:59
  Um, yeah, I mean,
• 1:13:01
  it's going to be hard to beat.
• 1:13:06
  Who's a good swimmer on the men's side.
• 1:13:09
  Trying to think of who who's
• 1:13:10
  going to get placed in
• 1:13:11
  those positions on both teams.
• 1:13:14
  Did you put Tia on the run?
• 1:13:16
  to make up whatever time
• 1:13:17
  they need to at the end or on the water.
• 1:13:19
  I don't think it's a long
• 1:13:20
  enough distance on the swim
• 1:13:21
  for her to... Isn't Grace on their team?
• 1:13:23
  If Gracie Walton's there,
• 1:13:24
  I'd put Grace in the water.
• 1:13:25
  Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Because Tia's going to go on the run,
• 1:13:29
  although she might... Yeah,
• 1:13:34
  if they would have put
• 1:13:35
  James Sprague on there,
• 1:13:36
  he'd be great in the water,
• 1:13:37
  but they didn't invite him.
• 1:13:39
  They really messed up there.
• 1:13:41
  You're not putting Pat
• 1:13:42
  Vellner in the water.
• 1:13:43
  No, you're not putting Pat in the water.
• 1:13:45
  don't put them in the water
• 1:13:47
  but pat's great on the
• 1:13:48
  machines though and then
• 1:13:50
  we've the last one released
• 1:13:52
  is min to max it is four
• 1:13:55
  time this is male male
• 1:13:57
  female versus male female
• 1:14:00
  four time ninety toes to
• 1:14:01
  bar forty five strict wall
• 1:14:03
  facing handstand push-ups
• 1:14:05
  thirty ring muscle-ups
• 1:14:08
  alternating minutes per
• 1:14:09
  teammate so one teammate
• 1:14:11
  goes for a minute switches
• 1:14:13
  for another minute to the
• 1:14:14
  other one and back and forth I like that
• 1:14:19
  I just don't know how
• 1:14:20
  exciting this format is
• 1:14:22
  when it's just like a one-on-one.
• 1:14:24
  When I think about those four athletes,
• 1:14:26
  if you're on the run and you're way ahead,
• 1:14:28
  you don't even have to push the run.
• 1:14:29
  You're just staying ahead of one team.
• 1:14:32
  I really feel like they're
• 1:14:33
  missing on having a couple
• 1:14:35
  more teams and making it
• 1:14:37
  the invitational format.
• 1:14:39
  Because you can have good workouts,
• 1:14:41
  but they're not exciting races.
• 1:14:42
  If there's a gap between them at all.
• 1:14:44
  Yep.
• 1:14:45
  They'll just do enough just
• 1:14:46
  to beat that opponent.
• 1:14:48
  Why would you crush yourself
• 1:14:50
  on the four K run?
• 1:14:51
  If you have a two minute lead or whatever,
• 1:14:53
  you know, uh, any,
• 1:14:55
  any one of these races.
• 1:14:57
  When it's one-on-one,
• 1:14:59
  it's just not – you need
• 1:15:01
  the right – the perfect
• 1:15:03
  matchup like the reps ahead
• 1:15:06
  was only good if you had the perfect,
• 1:15:08
  perfect matchups of stuff.
• 1:15:11
  Last year was really good
• 1:15:13
  when the races were tight.
• 1:15:15
  Yeah,
• 1:15:15
  but if it wasn't – If one got out ahead,
• 1:15:18
  it got real boring real quick.
• 1:15:20
  And that's what's unfortunate.
• 1:15:22
  Like if you had a Team Europe,
• 1:15:23
  a Team Australia, a Team –
• 1:15:26
  I don't know.
• 1:15:26
  You could even do USA and
• 1:15:30
  then Canada different.
• 1:15:33
  Well, the last invitation was Canada, U.S.,
• 1:15:35
  Australia, Europe.
• 1:15:37
  That's perfect.
• 1:15:39
  Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  And Roman could be.
• 1:15:44
  I guess you don't have.
• 1:15:48
  Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:15:51
  Throw them,
• 1:15:52
  throw them with Europe if they need to.
• 1:15:54
  Um,
• 1:15:54
  like I think that would be much better
• 1:15:58
  format,
• 1:15:59
  bring back like invitational stuff
• 1:16:02
  and CrossFit doesn't need to run it,
• 1:16:03
  have water blues that run it.
• 1:16:04
  And it's that format,
• 1:16:06
  like those four teams that was fun.
• 1:16:08
  I agree.
• 1:16:11
  And maybe we're at a point
• 1:16:12
  where we could have five teams.
• 1:16:13
  I don't know.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  You hear all the OGs talk
• 1:16:16
  about how much they love
• 1:16:17
  the invitational format.
• 1:16:19
  And I think this is what SoCal is becoming,
• 1:16:22
  but I do think,
• 1:16:23
  and I think they're onto the right thing.
• 1:16:26
  I, but I agree,
• 1:16:27
  add a couple more teams and
• 1:16:29
  I think they've got a winner.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  I just don't love the one-on-one format.
• 1:16:36
  I don't think, I don't think it's good.
• 1:16:38
  I like the amount.
• 1:16:38
  I like that.
• 1:16:39
  They can have athletes go in
• 1:16:40
  and out of workouts.
• 1:16:41
  You pick like you have eight
• 1:16:43
  people or whatever it is.
• 1:16:44
  And these athletes do this workout.
• 1:16:46
  Some of them have to do all of it.
• 1:16:49
  But just, yeah, that part needs to change,
• 1:16:51
  the one-on-one.
• 1:16:52
  And it gets more exposure
• 1:16:53
  for more athletes if you go for teams.
• 1:16:56
  And still four lanes on a
• 1:16:59
  field makes it still easy to watch.
• 1:17:01
  Yeah, easy to broadcast.
• 1:17:04
  Yep.
• 1:17:05
  So, yeah,
• 1:17:07
  completely agree with you on that.
• 1:17:10
  So the last couple of things
• 1:17:10
  I wanted to bring up is I
• 1:17:12
  watched and I talked about
• 1:17:14
  this on my show last week.
• 1:17:16
  John Woolley was on with the
• 1:17:18
  girls show in the box office.
• 1:17:22
  And they were talking about WFP.
• 1:17:24
  And I really thought John
• 1:17:25
  Woolley did a great job
• 1:17:27
  explaining kind of how far
• 1:17:33
  behind the eight ball the
• 1:17:34
  WFP is coming into this.
• 1:17:37
  And he did it in a way that
• 1:17:38
  really made sense because
• 1:17:40
  CrossFit has a legacy
• 1:17:42
  that's been established for
• 1:17:43
  fifteen years because Rich
• 1:17:45
  won the games four times
• 1:17:46
  because Tio's won the games
• 1:17:48
  eight times because Matt's
• 1:17:49
  won it five times.
• 1:17:51
  as you come up and you want
• 1:17:52
  to compete in the sport,
• 1:17:54
  you want to be like those guys were.
• 1:17:57
  You want to beat their records.
• 1:17:59
  You want to do what they want to do.
• 1:18:02
  And because of that,
• 1:18:04
  it's going to be really
• 1:18:05
  hard for the WFP to elevate
• 1:18:06
  to the same level of the CrossFit Games.
• 1:18:10
  And then on the flip side, he said,
• 1:18:12
  what the WFP could become
• 1:18:14
  is a great developmental league,
• 1:18:17
  To get people ready and for
• 1:18:19
  the young up-and-coming
• 1:18:20
  stars to sign and do that
• 1:18:22
  and create a place for them to grow.
• 1:18:26
  And if you can create
• 1:18:27
  loyalty with those athletes,
• 1:18:30
  that's when you can kind of
• 1:18:31
  get some footing and maybe
• 1:18:33
  they'll choose to stay with
• 1:18:34
  you because of how they
• 1:18:36
  were treated as opposed to
• 1:18:39
  the legacy of the other thing.
• 1:18:41
  But you can't buy legacy.
• 1:18:44
  And I think that's what
• 1:18:45
  they're trying to do now.
• 1:18:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:53
  So, I just,
• 1:18:55
  I really thought that that was
• 1:18:58
  the best way I've heard it
• 1:18:59
  put between the two in a
• 1:19:02
  very logical manner and not
• 1:19:05
  an emotional way, if that makes sense.
• 1:19:10
  Yes.
• 1:19:13
  So,
• 1:19:16
  happens in mma you have pfl
• 1:19:18
  bellator yeah you have the
• 1:19:20
  different leagues and at
• 1:19:21
  different levels and I
• 1:19:24
  think it works and then I
• 1:19:28
  saw whoever's read I think
• 1:19:31
  that's carolyn the boys
• 1:19:32
  interrupted podcast in josh
• 1:19:36
  bridges I haven't watched
• 1:19:39
  that one yet oh it was good
• 1:19:41
  I just think it was cool.
• 1:19:42
  Like they were, you know,
• 1:19:44
  at first kind of chirping
• 1:19:44
  each other cause they're being boys.
• 1:19:46
  Um, but then they got into, you know,
• 1:19:48
  some history of things and, um,
• 1:19:52
  appreciating like some of
• 1:19:53
  like the things that josh
• 1:19:56
  did in his prime and what
• 1:19:58
  like what they looked up to
• 1:19:59
  of what he did and then he
• 1:20:01
  also talked about them and
• 1:20:03
  like different things that
• 1:20:05
  they have to work on and I
• 1:20:06
  just thought it was a
• 1:20:07
  really cool conversation
• 1:20:08
  and it was really like nice
• 1:20:09
  to see an og talk to the current
• 1:20:14
  you know,
• 1:20:15
  athletes that are just up there
• 1:20:17
  in the sport.
• 1:20:18
  Um,
• 1:20:19
  they were trying to get some stuff out
• 1:20:20
  of him from the rogue invitational.
• 1:20:23
  Cause he programs with, uh, with Katie and,
• 1:20:26
  uh, spieler.
• 1:20:27
  So they were trying to see
• 1:20:29
  if they could get anything.
• 1:20:30
  And the only way they got was at one point,
• 1:20:33
  um,
• 1:20:34
  Uh,
• 1:20:35
  what's his hopper like was saying how he,
• 1:20:38
  one of his like biggest weaknesses,
• 1:20:39
  I think it was like strict
• 1:20:40
  ring muscle ups.
• 1:20:41
  And then Josh was like, oh yeah,
• 1:20:43
  like that's, uh,
• 1:20:44
  that shouldn't be in a competition.
• 1:20:45
  And then hopper was like,
• 1:20:47
  so it's not going to be at
• 1:20:48
  rogue invitational.
• 1:20:49
  Um,
• 1:20:51
  cause Josh won't give up anything of
• 1:20:52
  course, to, um, the programming, but no,
• 1:20:56
  I just thought that that
• 1:20:56
  was a good conversation.
• 1:20:58
  If you haven't watched it.
• 1:21:00
  Um, I've really like enjoyed their,
• 1:21:02
  their show.
• 1:21:03
  Um,
• 1:21:04
  I think that the guests that they have
• 1:21:06
  on and just,
• 1:21:07
  just the conversations and stuff,
• 1:21:08
  it's nice to look into their,
• 1:21:12
  their thoughts on things.
• 1:21:13
  their last two have been exceptional.
• 1:21:15
  I got through the first half of Josh,
• 1:21:17
  all the pads.
• 1:21:19
  And, um, and I,
• 1:21:21
  what I like about it is
• 1:21:22
  because it's their show, like they're,
• 1:21:24
  they seem to be more open
• 1:21:25
  and transparent about how they feel.
• 1:21:27
  Yeah.
• 1:21:28
  Jason talking about how hard
• 1:21:30
  it was for him to get
• 1:21:31
  motivated after winning the
• 1:21:32
  games for the WFP.
• 1:21:35
  Like I could see that.
• 1:21:37
  He just gave everything he
• 1:21:39
  had to this one thing to
• 1:21:40
  accomplish that one goal.
• 1:21:42
  And then to rev it back up
• 1:21:43
  two weeks later was hard for him.
• 1:21:46
  And I thought that was cool
• 1:21:47
  that he admitted that.
• 1:21:52
  And then I loved the Dallin
• 1:21:53
  and Pat because Dallin had
• 1:21:54
  the horrible day one at WFP.
• 1:21:57
  And Pat was like,
• 1:21:59
  I know what it feels like.
• 1:22:01
  I do it every time.
• 1:22:04
  But I feel like Dallin was...
• 1:22:08
  talking about day one,
• 1:22:10
  as in he was fatigued or
• 1:22:11
  something from the games.
• 1:22:12
  I just think those movements
• 1:22:13
  are not necessarily his wheelhouse,
• 1:22:14
  and that's just where he is.
• 1:22:16
  I was kind of sick of all
• 1:22:17
  the excuses about the games,
• 1:22:19
  to be honest.
• 1:22:21
  They had three weeks.
• 1:22:22
  I feel like most of them are fine,
• 1:22:24
  but if they have a bad day or a bad event,
• 1:22:27
  all of a sudden you're
• 1:22:27
  tired from the games,
• 1:22:28
  and then other people that
• 1:22:29
  were fine felt... It just
• 1:22:31
  is like... I don't know.
• 1:22:34
  That's just my opinion.
• 1:22:35
  Maybe it's...
• 1:22:39
  So like,
• 1:22:41
  I don't see him being a top ten in
• 1:22:42
  a running workout.
• 1:22:43
  Right.
• 1:22:44
  And that's just where it is.
• 1:22:45
  He's going to do amazing on
• 1:22:46
  everything else.
• 1:22:46
  And he made his way all the
• 1:22:48
  way back to fourth place.
• 1:22:49
  Exactly.
• 1:22:50
  Amazing.
• 1:22:50
  It's just like Pat's day ones.
• 1:22:52
  Pat wasn't going to be a top
• 1:22:53
  fifteen in a swimming event,
• 1:22:55
  a top twenty.
• 1:22:55
  Like it just what it just
• 1:22:58
  that's the order of the events.
• 1:23:00
  I think that's what I felt like.
• 1:23:03
  I don't think that.
• 1:23:05
  I don't think that three weeks later,
• 1:23:08
  most of those athletes,
• 1:23:09
  like the way that they train,
• 1:23:11
  this was the lowest volumes games.
• 1:23:14
  I understand the feeling hyped to compete,
• 1:23:18
  but I don't think it's a,
• 1:23:19
  I think maybe a mental
• 1:23:20
  fatigue versus a physical
• 1:23:21
  fatigue is the difference.
• 1:23:24
  I think that you could kind of go,
• 1:23:26
  but I don't think the
• 1:23:27
  physical fatigue from the
• 1:23:28
  games this year is a huge
• 1:23:30
  for those athletes.
• 1:23:32
  A lot of them are doing the
• 1:23:33
  road qualifier this weekend.
• 1:23:36
  All right.
• 1:23:37
  One,
• 1:23:38
  I think what you're saying is they
• 1:23:39
  need to suck it up and
• 1:23:41
  just... You did two games in two weeks.
• 1:23:45
  The Clutch did three games.
• 1:23:48
  The Sarah girl just did the
• 1:23:49
  Rogue qualifier as well.
• 1:23:51
  A lot of people are competing all the time,
• 1:23:53
  especially when you're
• 1:23:53
  desperate to make a name
• 1:23:56
  for yourself or whatnot.
• 1:23:58
  You're willing to compete
• 1:23:59
  whenever you have to.
• 1:24:02
  Sydney Wells is doing the qualifier here.
• 1:24:03
  I don't know who else that
• 1:24:04
  was just at WFP.
• 1:24:06
  There's a lot of them that
• 1:24:08
  they don't say anything.
• 1:24:09
  They're doing as much as they can.
• 1:24:10
  I don't know.
• 1:24:13
  What I will say is if you win the games,
• 1:24:17
  the emotional and
• 1:24:18
  adrenaline rush is
• 1:24:19
  completely different than
• 1:24:21
  participating in both.
• 1:24:23
  The one person I get it for is Hopper.
• 1:24:28
  You hit the mountaintop.
• 1:24:31
  in the biggest win in the
• 1:24:32
  sport to get yourself back
• 1:24:35
  up three weeks later.
• 1:24:37
  Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  Because like people are like, you know,
• 1:24:42
  Colton did find it both.
• 1:24:44
  And Jeff was healthy and Bubba,
• 1:24:46
  none of them won the hopper one, the,
• 1:24:50
  the prize of the year.
• 1:24:53
  And then you're just like,
• 1:24:56
  it has to be a breath of like,
• 1:24:58
  just relax for a little bit
• 1:25:00
  and hard to get it back out
• 1:25:01
  to the garage or out to the gym.
• 1:25:03
  After you just won,
• 1:25:04
  you want to relish in it at
• 1:25:06
  least for a little bit.
• 1:25:08
  And they go back to
• 1:25:09
  competing three weeks later,
• 1:25:10
  got to be tough.
• 1:25:12
  But for the rest of you, I agree.
• 1:25:14
  Like,
• 1:25:14
  but like they were talking about that.
• 1:25:15
  They felt great right after
• 1:25:17
  the games and like,
• 1:25:18
  they were actually ready to
• 1:25:19
  get back into it.
• 1:25:21
  And,
• 1:25:23
  not just talking about that group,
• 1:25:24
  like just everyone in general.
• 1:25:25
  Like I saw them back in the
• 1:25:26
  gym and take a little bit, few days off.
• 1:25:29
  And I don't know.
• 1:25:31
  I just think some,
• 1:25:33
  sometimes like those are
• 1:25:35
  the events that weekend.
• 1:25:36
  There's nothing you can like,
• 1:25:36
  it's just those people
• 1:25:38
  executed better and did
• 1:25:40
  better on those workouts.
• 1:25:41
  You gave it your best effort.
• 1:25:42
  And like Dallin,
• 1:25:43
  you gave it your best effort.
• 1:25:45
  Like he never said that he didn't try.
• 1:25:47
  He just didn't have it in him that day.
• 1:25:49
  And like that's sports.
• 1:25:52
  I don't think it necessarily
• 1:25:53
  has to get blamed on having the games.
• 1:25:56
  Sometimes you just show up
• 1:25:57
  to a game and you shit the bed.
• 1:25:59
  It's not necessarily
• 1:26:02
  anything you did the night before.
• 1:26:03
  It's just how it is.
• 1:26:05
  That day you didn't have the energy.
• 1:26:08
  Kenneth,
• 1:26:09
  podiuming and winning are two
• 1:26:11
  different things.
• 1:26:16
  That is all I'm going to say about that.
• 1:26:22
  There's one ultimate goal.
• 1:26:24
  When you hit that ultimate goal,
• 1:26:26
  you are going to relax after you win.
• 1:26:29
  That is all I'm saying.
• 1:26:31
  And to go to something that
• 1:26:35
  honestly is not viewed at
• 1:26:37
  as high as the games is
• 1:26:39
  you're going to be hard
• 1:26:40
  finding the motivation to
• 1:26:42
  get back up for that when
• 1:26:44
  you're sitting there with a
• 1:26:45
  gold medal around your neck.
• 1:26:48
  It's just going to be hard.
• 1:26:57
  kenneth fraser went away for
• 1:27:00
  six weeks and after every
• 1:27:02
  games fraser didn't compete
• 1:27:04
  very often fraser would do
• 1:27:05
  rogue no I don't think he
• 1:27:09
  ever did rogue he did game
• 1:27:10
  season he went to dubai the
• 1:27:12
  year I was there I know
• 1:27:13
  that I don't think he did
• 1:27:15
  many competitions though
• 1:27:16
  I have a question on Frazier
• 1:27:18
  since he got brought up
• 1:27:19
  because Aaron was talking
• 1:27:20
  about this last week after we got off.
• 1:27:23
  He was like,
• 1:27:24
  you guys talking about all the machines,
• 1:27:28
  do you think Frazier would
• 1:27:30
  have been as dominant?
• 1:27:32
  I mean, I think he still would have won,
• 1:27:34
  but with that many machines...
• 1:27:38
  I mean,
• 1:27:38
  I think he would have figured it
• 1:27:40
  out and put in the work and
• 1:27:42
  all the machines,
• 1:27:42
  but I do think he would
• 1:27:43
  have had less of an
• 1:27:44
  advantage with the way that
• 1:27:47
  some of the programming has gone.
• 1:27:48
  If he didn't win by four
• 1:27:49
  hundred and five hundred points,
• 1:27:50
  I would say maybe you have
• 1:27:51
  an argument there.
• 1:27:52
  Yeah.
• 1:27:54
  I don't I'm not saying he wouldn't win,
• 1:27:56
  but I don't know.
• 1:27:57
  I don't think it would have
• 1:27:58
  been as much of like I
• 1:28:00
  don't know that he would
• 1:28:00
  have also won just mentally
• 1:28:02
  like he like he showed up
• 1:28:04
  and everyone already knew
• 1:28:05
  they're going for second.
• 1:28:07
  Like, it was more than just, like,
• 1:28:10
  he was just, yeah.
• 1:28:12
  His presence was just.
• 1:28:15
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:28:16
  Some of that stuff,
• 1:28:19
  I do think kind of like Colton, like,
• 1:28:22
  he would have had to work
• 1:28:23
  extra hard on some of those events.
• 1:28:24
  But he's just so much fitter that.
• 1:28:26
  I know.
• 1:28:27
  Jamie,
• 1:28:28
  if it was a two hundred point difference.
• 1:28:30
  I didn't say he's not going to win.
• 1:28:31
  I'm just saying it.
• 1:28:31
  Maybe it would have won by
• 1:28:32
  two hundred instead of four hundred.
• 1:28:34
  I'm just saying.
• 1:28:35
  He was, other than no year against Noah,
• 1:28:39
  there was never a doubt
• 1:28:41
  that he was going to win.
• 1:28:42
  And it wasn't even within a
• 1:28:43
  few hundred points.
• 1:28:50
  I don't know.
• 1:28:50
  Just bodes for these bigger men.
• 1:28:52
  It would have been
• 1:28:53
  interesting to see a
• 1:28:55
  machine-heavy games with
• 1:28:56
  Frazier in the mix.
• 1:28:57
  What?
• 1:29:03
  I think he was just so elite
• 1:29:04
  everywhere else that I think that, I mean,
• 1:29:10
  it's like Tia.
• 1:29:10
  Tia's probably one.
• 1:29:11
  Tia,
• 1:29:12
  I think her body weight is one of the
• 1:29:13
  smallest ones in the field.
• 1:29:15
  She's like maybe one forty ish.
• 1:29:20
  And I would say the average
• 1:29:21
  on the female might be one
• 1:29:23
  fifty five to one sixty on
• 1:29:26
  average or some on both
• 1:29:28
  range on both sides.
• 1:29:31
  She still does it.
• 1:29:33
  Yeah.
• 1:29:34
  But like her worst events
• 1:29:35
  are often like a echo bike power out.
• 1:29:37
  But unless like if it's
• 1:29:39
  paired with low skill
• 1:29:40
  things that she can't make
• 1:29:42
  up where like everyone else
• 1:29:43
  is unbroken everywhere else,
• 1:29:44
  like she'll maybe there
• 1:29:46
  give up a few points, but not much.
• 1:29:49
  She's so far ahead.
• 1:29:50
  All right.
• 1:29:54
  Last time I'm addressing this.
• 1:29:56
  I would think if you won,
• 1:29:59
  you would want to go hard
• 1:30:00
  so it didn't raise these questions.
• 1:30:02
  Sprague never slowed down.
• 1:30:04
  He silenced a lot of critics.
• 1:30:05
  Hopper didn't do that.
• 1:30:07
  The number of critics that
• 1:30:08
  James had after last year
• 1:30:10
  and everything that
• 1:30:10
  happened at the games was
• 1:30:12
  way more than what Hopper
• 1:30:13
  got this year in a full
• 1:30:14
  field at the CrossFit Games.
• 1:30:17
  So he didn't have the critics to silence.
• 1:30:19
  I mean, it's also six events.
• 1:30:20
  It's not the same as like more events.
• 1:30:24
  It's your...
• 1:30:25
  the leaderboard would take
• 1:30:26
  shape differently.
• 1:30:28
  And they're not claiming
• 1:30:29
  that their test is the test
• 1:30:30
  of the fittest necessarily.
• 1:30:33
  Right.
• 1:30:33
  And he won in a full field games.
• 1:30:38
  Yes, it was mostly indoors.
• 1:30:40
  And yes, you could,
• 1:30:41
  there are some questions if
• 1:30:42
  you want to pull them all up,
• 1:30:44
  but winning WFP or podium at WFP,
• 1:30:46
  isn't going to change any of that.
• 1:30:50
  People left and went home.
• 1:30:52
  So that's why there were way
• 1:30:54
  more critics of his.
• 1:31:06
  But I think James has
• 1:31:08
  silenced his critics.
• 1:31:09
  I totally agree.
• 1:31:10
  Oh, absolutely.
• 1:31:11
  None of this is a dig on him.
• 1:31:14
  And James is a different
• 1:31:15
  person than Jason.
• 1:31:18
  Just like Rich is different than Matt.
• 1:31:20
  Rich wouldn't have gone to a
• 1:31:21
  cabin in the woods for six
• 1:31:22
  weeks and taken that time off.
• 1:31:24
  Rich would have worked out every day.
• 1:31:26
  That doesn't mean either one
• 1:31:27
  of them are less great at what they did.
• 1:31:34
  So there.
• 1:31:38
  Getting me all fired up
• 1:31:39
  right before bedtime and
• 1:31:40
  now I'm not going to be able to sleep.
• 1:31:44
  James has had a very good...
• 1:31:48
  year of competition,
• 1:31:49
  extremely consistent
• 1:31:51
  besides the rogue invitational, um,
• 1:31:53
  coming off the sickness.
• 1:31:54
  He's been rock rock solid
• 1:31:57
  everywhere and really has made impressive,
• 1:32:01
  um, gains in his strength.
• 1:32:03
  Yes.
• 1:32:04
  Really impressive.
• 1:32:06
  Um, yeah.
• 1:32:08
  If eight months ago,
• 1:32:09
  I would have told you that
• 1:32:10
  James would not lose to
• 1:32:12
  Dallin other than rogue.
• 1:32:15
  You would have called me crazy.
• 1:32:26
  so there we ended with a
• 1:32:27
  nice little banter sorry I
• 1:32:33
  was just like frustrated
• 1:32:36
  seeing all like there was
• 1:32:37
  and I'm not talking about
• 1:32:37
  like just a lot of posts
• 1:32:39
  talking about like post
• 1:32:40
  games and using that as an
• 1:32:44
  excuse yeah excuse
• 1:32:46
  replacements and stuff like
• 1:32:47
  that and I'm like
• 1:32:50
  Just that's where you were that weekend on,
• 1:32:51
  on that competition,
• 1:32:53
  on those workouts and those
• 1:32:55
  athletes that were in front
• 1:32:55
  of you were better.
• 1:32:56
  And that's what the case for
• 1:32:57
  every competition.
• 1:33:00
  And I agree with you on all of that.
• 1:33:02
  I,
• 1:33:02
  the only person I give the J O free card
• 1:33:06
  is a hopper for winning.
• 1:33:07
  That's it.
• 1:33:09
  Like I get the mental,
• 1:33:10
  like getting amped up for
• 1:33:12
  this competition is not the
• 1:33:14
  same at all as the CrossFit games.
• 1:33:16
  Like it's a different competition.
• 1:33:19
  Um,
• 1:33:20
  but you show up and those athletes are
• 1:33:25
  doing their best.
• 1:33:25
  Like if they're resting,
• 1:33:26
  it's cause they probably needed the rest.
• 1:33:28
  Um,
• 1:33:29
  and then there's some execution errors
• 1:33:31
  and that's just what's going to happen.
• 1:33:33
  But yeah.
• 1:33:35
  Well, all right guys.
• 1:33:36
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• 1:33:37
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• 1:33:38
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• 1:33:41
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• 1:33:41
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• 1:33:44
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• 1:33:46
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• 1:33:49
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• 1:33:50
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• 1:33:52
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• 1:33:54
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