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Ken Rosenthal on expanding sellers market: SP avail, Red Sox? D’backs? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Baseball gets what it deserves when you have a crowd
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  Speaker 1: of five thousand for those two teams. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: way the franchises run to performances on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hit the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with something your colleague Dennis Lynn
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  Speaker 2: put out there yesterday about the Padres. I just thought
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  Speaker 2: the name connection was fascinating. So the Padres have interest
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  Speaker 2: in Jaron Duran, and they've had interest in him since
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  Speaker 2: at least last year, according to this report.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, teams have interested in a lot of different players.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that there would be any mutual interest
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  Speaker 2: because if you look back to last year, Jaron Duran,
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  Speaker 2: by wins above replacement, was like a top five player
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  Speaker 2: in the league. If I told you this a year ago,
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like, no way, the Red Sox are trading
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  Speaker 2: this guy. They're signing him up long term. So what
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  Speaker 2: did you think?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I was aware of this too. We spoke Dennis and
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  Speaker 1: I about it, and it's been going on a while,
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  Speaker 1: this interest in Duran. It dates back to twenty four
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  Speaker 1: even before that. So yes, Scott, I'm glad you said
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  Speaker 1: that teams are interested in all kinds of players at
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  Speaker 1: all the time, but this is a specific name that
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  Speaker 1: we've heard link to the Padres. And the difference here
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  Speaker 1: with Duran, even though he is a really good player,
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  Speaker 1: is that the Red Sox have a surplus of outfielders.
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  Speaker 1: So with Roman Anthony still in the minors and them
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  Speaker 1: theoretically needing to clear a spot for him, maybe that
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  Speaker 1: would be the way they go. The question I have
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  Speaker 1: with this whole conversation is what are the Padres going
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  Speaker 1: to give for Duran. They've depleted their system in recent
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  Speaker 1: years by making trade after trade, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that they really have a lot that would satisfy the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox. If the Red Sox were intent on trading Duran,
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  Speaker 1: or will You're a Brave for that matter, another outfielder
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  Speaker 1: who is really good, they would want a considerable return,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know that the Padres are prepared to
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  Speaker 1: give it to them. Even if aj Preller wants to
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  Speaker 1: do something, it's just not a situation where he's had
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  Speaker 1: or has as much depth as he did before.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Preller has said it on the record many
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  Speaker 5: times he can find more prospects to trade he'll draft
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  Speaker 5: him and he'll trade him right away. Trade Turner. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he's not afraid, so I know, but Preller always figures
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  Speaker 5: out a way to trade. It's like, does he have
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  Speaker 5: four hundred prospects every every player in the pottery is
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  Speaker 5: It seems like a prospect when they get traded away.
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing what he does. My question is more on
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  Speaker 5: if Jared Durant goes, is this the path they need
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  Speaker 5: for Roman Anthony? Because why is Roman Anthony not up?
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  Speaker 5: I know, I kind of said, I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: we want to bring him up, but is he the
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  Speaker 5: answer to the Red Sox woes if he does come up,
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  Speaker 5: because you already have Campbell there, he's struggling. Now you
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  Speaker 5: got Meyer there. Coss is obviously offer the year, But
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  Speaker 5: is Anthony the one that can get him over the
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  Speaker 5: hump and get him going.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that the answer to that is yes.
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  Speaker 1: And as we've seen, aj prospects are really exciting and
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox and their fans have been elevating over
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  Speaker 1: those guys for years now, literally years, but getting to
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  Speaker 1: the major leagues. Transitioning to the major leagues is not easy.
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  Speaker 1: And while Campbell had some immediate success. He has now struggled.
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  Speaker 1: Meyer of course, just got here, and there's no guarantee Anthony,
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  Speaker 1: as promising as he looks like Jock Caglion in Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: is going to immediately make an impact. There's just not
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  Speaker 1: that easiest path for many of these players. Mike Trout
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  Speaker 1: went back to the minor leagues, if you recall, after
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  Speaker 1: coming up. So if the Red Sox do something along
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  Speaker 1: these lines, trade an outfielder with some service time for
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  Speaker 1: whatever they want, I don't know what they want exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine what they would want is something that
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  Speaker 1: could help them in the near future, if not immediately,
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  Speaker 1: if not right away, in the present because they want
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  Speaker 1: to compete. Team was built to compete. They signed Bregman,
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  Speaker 1: they traded for Garrett Grochet signed him. It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be a rebuilding movement there entirely when you have
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of players.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's earlier.
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  Speaker 5: We're still well over what fifty eight days away from
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  Speaker 5: the trade deadline. Can I don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 5: who might be on the block, but I want to
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  Speaker 5: ask you this, the of the reasonable sellers, if you
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  Speaker 5: look at the sellers that could possibly be out there,
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  Speaker 5: White Sox, Orioles, maybe A's possibly Angels, maybe I mean Marlins, Pirates, Rockies.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously who do they have? Who is that?
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing when I look at the sellers, maybe
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  Speaker 5: the Diamondbacks would be the one with maybe someone like
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  Speaker 5: Gallon Orioles.
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  Speaker 4: Who Orioles or Orioles?
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  Speaker 5: The Orioles are they finally going to trade away some
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  Speaker 5: of their guys? Like you see what I'm saying? Like
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  Speaker 5: the question I always have we go to a trade
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  Speaker 5: deadline is it's great if you want to get guys,
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  Speaker 5: but some of these teams are so bad they don't
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  Speaker 5: have anybody to give you.
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  Speaker 4: So what aj al there from these teams? That's what
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  Speaker 4: I would be right.
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  Speaker 1: The Orioles, as Scott mentioned, are the exception. The Orioles
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  Speaker 1: have a number of players on expiring contracts that they
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  Speaker 1: would be willing to trade. They've got reliever in Felix Bautista,
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  Speaker 1: who is not yet quite back to himself, but I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine teams would want Who am I talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Ryan O'Hearn one of the hottest hitters in baseball though
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  Speaker 1: people really don't know it, Cedric Mowens. He is a
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  Speaker 1: center fielder who is streaky, but is someone who would
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  Speaker 1: be attractive. Zach Efflin another one, Sugano the pitcher. All
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  Speaker 1: these guys are potential free agents, as it said Sir
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Dominguez, So you have a lot of potential pieces
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  Speaker 1: to trade. Bautista being another, Ryan Mountcastle with another year
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  Speaker 1: left being another. If they want to do some things,
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  Speaker 1: they will be able to do some things. They're not
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  Speaker 1: like the Rockies and the Pirates and the Marlins and
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  Speaker 1: the A's to a certain extent, those teams don't have
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot to give the Orioles due. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: question is where are they going with this? Are they
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  Speaker 1: going back into something of a retooling phase. Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to try to compete again next year? And if
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  Speaker 1: they are, it's going to be difficult to replicate the
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  Speaker 1: performances or the quality of all of these play That's
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  Speaker 1: a question that maybe they deal with later, because if
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  Speaker 1: they're out of contention, you might as well listen on
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  Speaker 1: every one of those guys I just mentioned, If not.
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  Speaker 5: Can you mentioned Jack Tiger Leonet. We got a question
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  Speaker 5: from Drew Mongil. I'm not sure. I'm not as much
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  Speaker 5: of a wordman as you can, but what does Jackkags
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  Speaker 5: call it mean? Long and short term? For Vinnie Pasmantina.
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  Speaker 1: Short term not much at all. They're gonna continue playing
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  Speaker 1: Pasquentino at first base, DH and him on occasion. Salvador
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  Speaker 1: Perez will catch of course first base and DH on occasion.
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  Speaker 1: Caglioon has been playing the outfield at Triple A. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the Royals would like to do with him, at
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  Speaker 1: least short term. Now long term, is it possible he
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  Speaker 1: ends up at first base? They do something with Pasquentino, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine it is. But if you're the Royals
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  Speaker 1: and you're tied for twenty eighth in the major leagues
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  Speaker 1: and runs scored with the Pirates ahead of only the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: You need as many bats in your lineup as you
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  Speaker 1: can find. They don't have nearly enough. So what they
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  Speaker 1: want to do is squeeze all of these guys into
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  Speaker 1: the same lineup.
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  Speaker 5: Ken as someone that knows Jack because he obviously went
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  Speaker 5: to Florida and I went saw it as fiance's father.
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  Speaker 5: Is my dentist this morning. My teeth are looking great.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, what are.
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  Speaker 4: They expecting from Jack?
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  Speaker 5: I know listening he's crushing in double A, crushed in
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  Speaker 5: triple A's put up these numbers, but they're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: throw them like in the three hole right away and say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: go save this team's year because they need Salvey to
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  Speaker 5: turn around.
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  Speaker 4: Bobby wits not having a great year. He's having a
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  Speaker 4: good year, but not the year he had last year.
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  Speaker 5: Are we gonna look Are the Royals fans gonna look
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  Speaker 5: at Jack and say, this is our savior and it's
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  Speaker 5: not really fair to him.
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  Speaker 1: They would be mistaken, The fans would and the team
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  Speaker 1: would if they looked at him that way. No young
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  Speaker 1: player should be looked at that way. Jack Kaglione was
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  Speaker 1: drafted just last year. It's less than a year since
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  Speaker 1: he was taking number six overall out of the University
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  Speaker 1: of Florida in great name dropping their aj on his father.
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  Speaker 1: And he is a guy that, yes, has great promise,
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  Speaker 1: amazing power, fifteen home runs combined, double A and triple A,
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  Speaker 1: big time ops does chase oddly does not strike out
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  Speaker 1: that much for someone who chases. But I would imagine,
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  Speaker 1: like with most young players, there's going to be some
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  Speaker 1: adjustment period. Maybe he gets hot right away and then
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  Speaker 1: has to adjust like Christian Campbell. Maybe it happens right away.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't see him. No one should see him.
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  Speaker 1: No one should see Roman Anthony. No one should see
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  Speaker 1: any top prospect as a savior. But the question for
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  Speaker 1: the Royals is, and the question for any team considering
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  Speaker 1: the promotion of a top young player is can this
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  Speaker 1: player make us better than we are today? And the
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  Speaker 1: answer with Jack Caglion, I would imagine is going to
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  Speaker 1: be yes, Yeah, he can.
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  Speaker 4: Hit a ball.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna hit a ball over those over those dang
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  Speaker 5: fountains in Kansas City. Watch at some point he might
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  Speaker 5: hit a ball into the arch tonight in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 5: So watch out, watch out. If you're up there in
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  Speaker 5: the arch, you never know that one might come flying
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  Speaker 5: through your windows off the bat of Jack k all Right, Ken,
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  Speaker 5: do you know what the attendance was in Miami last night?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, but I saw a tweet in which I
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  Speaker 1: noticed quite a few empty seats.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so it's five and ninety four. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: where that ranks on the all time lowest attendants in
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  Speaker 5: the last twenty five years, but it's got to be high.
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  Speaker 5: What do the Marlins do? Because is baseball dead in Miami?
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  Speaker 5: They've tried different ownerships, they built a new stadium, they've
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  Speaker 5: got a good team, they sell the team, they get
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  Speaker 5: a good you know whatever, they keep getting rid of
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  Speaker 5: the Now they're reinventing the wheel with having their infielders
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  Speaker 5: twenty feet from home play while they're taking batting practice
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  Speaker 5: working on their jumps with nets in front of them.
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  Speaker 4: What the heck is going on in Miami?
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  Speaker 5: And will they just trade everybody away again and just
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  Speaker 5: keep saying out we're starting over.
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  Speaker 1: It's a full blown rebuild and there's no secret here.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to say before we even get into
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins. Baseball gets what it deserves when you have
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  Speaker 1: a crowd of five thousand for those two teams. Those
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  Speaker 1: two teams don't deserve even five thousand. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to disrespect the players necessarily. It's just the way
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  Speaker 1: the franchisees run to performances on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: As to the Marlins, yes, they're continuing to do what
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  Speaker 1: they've done for a while now, and that's stack young
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  Speaker 1: players and keep collecting young players in the hopes of
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  Speaker 1: a better future. Sometimes this works, as we've seen, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. But I would expect it the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: It won't just be a contra available and maybe they
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  Speaker 1: don't even trade him with the performance that he has
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  Speaker 1: had so far. Maybe they just prefer to keep him
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  Speaker 1: and trade him once he gets going again, maybe in
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  Speaker 1: the offseason, maybe next year. Edward Cabrera, Jesus Sanchez, these
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  Speaker 1: are guys that they can move and not going to
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  Speaker 1: get a ton back for them. Maybe in a starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching market that is kind of thin. Cabrera gets you something,
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  Speaker 1: but that's where they are now. We can agree with
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  Speaker 1: it or disagree with it, but it's a clear path.
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  Speaker 1: We can't criticize them for not having a direction. They
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  Speaker 1: have a direction. It's just a matter of when this
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  Speaker 1: finally turns around. And yeah, they have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: promise to young players, but at some point, like all teams,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to surround them with some quality veteran players,
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  Speaker 1: and the Morments don't seem terribly interested in doing that.
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  Speaker 5: We hit on the Red Sox a little bit. But
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  Speaker 5: Josh Schiffman on Chad BCC said, now, with the Red
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  Speaker 5: Sox slumping, is there a chance that Bueller gets traded?
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  Speaker 5: Obviously is a one year deal going, is a chance
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  Speaker 5: to be traded, But could there be a Dodger?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the Dodgers should just collect every pitcher and by
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs they can figure out who's healthy and who's
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  Speaker 1: not and choose from a staff of fifty. Seriously, though,
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  Speaker 1: with the Red Sox, yeah, I can understand the questions
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  Speaker 1: about them possibly becoming a seller. But again, we're two
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  Speaker 1: months away, just about two months away from the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: The Red Sox built this team to win. That's why
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  Speaker 1: they gave Bregman a forty million dollar average annual value,
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  Speaker 1: That's why they traded for Crochet signed him. I cannot
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  Speaker 1: imagine them conceding easily. We've been hearing from them all season.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to be better.
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  Speaker 1: We expect to play better, but they have not put
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  Speaker 1: it together yet. Do I believe they can put it together.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely do, and especially with Bregman coming back at
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  Speaker 1: some point, so they may do some things along what
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  Speaker 1: we discussed earlier, trading from depth from strength with a nowfielder,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, But I don't expect them to be full
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  Speaker 1: blown sellers and trading away Bueller and others just for
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  Speaker 1: the sake of collecting young players.
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  Speaker 3: Ken.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're early, but are there any starting pitchers
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  Speaker 2: that we should keep an eye on when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to the trade deadline because and I feel like this
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  Speaker 2: is getting well documented now from people who break down stats.
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  Speaker 2: Sandy al Contra is not likely to be the guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, he has been for the most
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  Speaker 2: part a mess and just not bouncing back yet from
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  Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery. I think if we started off the season,
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  Speaker 2: he was the big name, like, hey, who's going to
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  Speaker 2: get the big prize? As a former cy young winner
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  Speaker 2: should still be in his prime. So if not him,
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  Speaker 2: who do you think could be? You know, one of
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  Speaker 2: the big arms moved that could dictate who wins the
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  Speaker 2: World Series, like Jordan Montgomery a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 2: who I know fell off, but that proved to be
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  Speaker 2: probably the biggest traight of the year a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Scott, I'll give you a couple of thoughts on this
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  Speaker 1: one as we wait for the news on Corbyn Buruns
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  Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks and if Corbyn Buruns is suffering a serious
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  Speaker 1: injury require surgery, whatever the case might be, if he
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  Speaker 1: is out for the season, they will have to look
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  Speaker 1: at being a seller. They are a mess right now.
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  Speaker 1: They're one of the most disappointing teams in the game,
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  Speaker 1: right there with Atlanta in the National League behind the
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  Speaker 1: Orioles for pure disappointment. But they have not played well.
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  Speaker 1: They're twenty eight and thirty one. They've got a road
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  Speaker 1: trip to Atlanta and Cincinnati that starts tonight. That will
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  Speaker 1: be important for them. But if Burns is out, then
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at their expiring contracts, and Gallon
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  Speaker 1: and Merrill Kelly are two of them. They would be
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  Speaker 1: guys who in a trade scenario would attract quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit of interest, even though Gallan has struggled and the
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  Speaker 1: other team that is really interesting to me, and I've
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  Speaker 1: written about them. I talked about them on Fair Territory
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  Speaker 1: as well. Is Milwaukee Milwaukee has or has the potential
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  Speaker 1: to have a surplus of starting pitching now. It's a
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  Speaker 1: combination of guys that have kind of emerged this year,
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  Speaker 1: like Chad Patrick and Logan Henderson, prospects like Jacob Mazerowski,
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  Speaker 1: and of course veterans Freddy Peralta and Aaron Savali. Could
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  Speaker 1: I see the Brewers who've done this before, traded at
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  Speaker 1: the deadline, even when in contention, moving a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Peralta to create opportunities for other players and just work
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  Speaker 1: off their depth. Yeah, I could see that they did
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  Speaker 1: it with Hater. They didn't do with Willia Doomas. But
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  Speaker 1: it's something that the position that they're in right now,
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  Speaker 1: if it stays this way and if they remain relatively healthy,
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  Speaker 1: it is something that perhaps they can entertain, and I
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  Speaker 1: would keep my eye on the Brewers.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, all right, Ken, Before I let you go,
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  Speaker 5: how was that Dodgers Yankees game on Saturday?
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  Speaker 4: They did? Did you have to fill? Because it was
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  Speaker 4: not very close?
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  Speaker 5: Aj.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty funny that I didn't even get on
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  Speaker 1: the air until it was ten to nothing, so I
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  Speaker 1: doubt anyone ever heard anything I said because TV sets
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  Speaker 1: were clicking off all over America. But we did a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good job, I hope, of entertaining the viewers, even
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  Speaker 1: though the game wasn't all that entertaining itself. We had
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  Speaker 1: some players pitching on both sides. It was just a
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  Speaker 1: total mess.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, good because I didn't watch it, so I just
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  Speaker 5: didn't know if you had a good report I should
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  Speaker 5: have heard or not.
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  Speaker 4: So I just was wondering, Oh, I had.
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  Speaker 1: you don't listen to me, So it's all good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, at least you know where you stand, Ken,
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  Speaker 5: That's all I care about people.
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  Speaker 4: Let people know where they stand.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, you have a clear direction.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. Just call me Peter.
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  Speaker 3: Bendix.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say it, Ken, Thank you for the time.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Good to see you. We'll catch you on Fair Territory
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks guys, thank you. It's Ken Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 2: If you have an article on the roar blog out
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: there about the best arm is around the diamond, and
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: we're going off of the arm velocity on a position
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: by a position basis.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: So did you guys see the list already?
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: No you didn't.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, don't look, don't look.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I was gonna do you know any just as a
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: quick quiz, like at a position like by, I would say.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Ellie Mason went a short, Yeah, Mason Wynn would be
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the one.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: They've got Ellie. I'll give you answers on the fly here.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: First base I would think would be Wilson Contraras when
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: he plays there, but he didn't play there a lot.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: They've got Josh Naylor. This is highest. Uh, this is highest.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Average be low.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: There's also a max v low, but that's to me
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: average below makes more sense. Maxwel is just if you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: could throw it once super hard and you take the cake.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But Josh Nayler's at first for this team.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go Chatman because Aaron out always throws
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: on the run. You never see him throw from like
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: a standstill.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Chapman is correct.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Field outfield. Is Aaron Hicks still on there because then
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: he throw one like one hundred and four at one point,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think, I don't think isn't playing.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: He has a retirement announcement coming out. Yeah, short second
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: base is not l You're not going to get second
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: base because it's like not a big enough name.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: In our They guyt the mustache place for the Blue Jays.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Oh Jmenez. It's Gabriel Arius of the Guardians.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Fernando Tatists.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Free outfielders.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: That's when Maryland center here one the other day it
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: was really hard.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: The exit velocity, who's like the stat cast king besides
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Ellie Oh no Cruise. Yeah, so he's he's got the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: arm and then field. Left field's a tough one. Give
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: me a division A L West, I might even give
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you the team Oaklyan Yeah, a's suh yeah no, and do.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Hard Oh geezer is catcher Dingler Dingley catcher, Dylan d Yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: but he never gets rid of it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: He's like that is exactly the scouting report doesn't matter.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: He's like he's like he's like powering up. He's like
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: like Alfaro used to be, how far he was with
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: the with the Marlins. He would just I mean his
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: arm would just go up forever and it was like
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: it will go fast, but wouldn't get there in time.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It is interesting.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So he's got the top throwing arm, but he has
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the sixtieth fastest exchange time, which is six worst. So
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: his pop time which combines both, is twenty fourth, so
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: he's still above average.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: One in pop times is still JT.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I don't have I don't have that in front of.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: Me, Showcase, Showcase kid a j Showcase, the bar Shaan
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: kid for the Phillies has got a cannon. Oh the catcher,
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: Raphael Marshaan, Dude, he's got a freaking can.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Last year, the fastest time down to second pop time
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: measure was study Garrett Stubbs, Here go triple A.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: All right, so that was cool.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Any thoughts on any of these guys and.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: See I would love to see I would love to
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: see all these guys. Obviously they're not all All Stars,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: but if you're on this list, go to the All
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Star Game and have some kind of throwing competition. Maybe
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: maybe I'm maybe I'm super boring baseball guy. I want
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: to see these guys all light up the radar gun,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: hit a target, whatever it is. You can make it fast,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: you can make guys enjoy it. I think I think
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: something like that would be fun.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Would front offices ever allow hard throws from position players
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: or from anyone? I mean they allow pitching obviously in
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the All Star Game, but I think front offices would
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: lose their mind on that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Players haven't changed. Front offices have flake.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, so I agree. I mean it's impressive.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You know, the guys were talking about it was actually
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. You guys got most of this list.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Who wasn't Who was short?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Was it shortstop is Ellie? So technically Arius is listed
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for second and short. So I went Ellie, because I'm
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: putting arias at second. I'm not putting a multiple positions.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It's not like whatever you talked about the some one
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of you talked about some state awards where you can
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: win awards at like multiple positions.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: That you or was that him? Oh that was you?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, So anyway, Arius, I put it second. So Ellie's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: got a max throwing below of ninety five point eight
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and he averages ninety point nine. Max throwing below for
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: O'Neal Cruise is one oh four point nine.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: That's insane.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: That is insane, and he averages ninety seven point eight
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: with his outfield.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Thrust one oh four.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: He's a freak.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Do you know, Avatar? Call hi an avatar.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Have you seen how much he's running this year too?
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I don't have to play shorts of anymore. He's free.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: He's got twenty stolen bases already.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: He takes three steps and they're big steps.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: He's free training.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: He was one of the he was one we always
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: talk about it. I mean, Aj always talks about having
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Scoobal sit next to him and like how big he was.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: O'neo Cruz was one of the biggest, I think the
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: biggest guy we saw him spring training. Just the fact
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: that he's running around in the outfield.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: He's having a better season at the plate than Ellie
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Are you crying about that?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: No? I love O'Neil Cruz. I don't know you guys,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: I do haven't you know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: What you have not brought up? He hasn't brought up
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Ellie in mont You got that's messed up. Ras. He
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: hasn't mentioned Ellie in months.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I have one eye now, so I'm a pirate fan.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: By the way, did you guys see I don't know
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: if y'all saw this, This is this is gonna be
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: a weird, weird this this whole thing. The video, the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: video that was online of the kids, the kid struck
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: out and the pitch was way off the plate, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: then the high school kid was walking off the field
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and he went like this to the hitter.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I know you got it was like all over social media.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: So anyways, that was my son catching and the kid
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: pitching is his buddy, and the pitch was like, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: mean the pitch was not.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: A strike, right, They went viral.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was all over the internet because they're baseball
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: people were like, the picture really gave him the crying eye.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: The picture literally the hitter.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Was complaining, I mean, the ball was like, I mean
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: it was not a strike. But the picture walking off
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: the mountain looks at the hitter and he's like it
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: gave him the crying eye. Emoji.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Wow, I know that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: And then some so this is way way in the weeds,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: because we're in the weeds. But so last night I
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: was at my son's summer league game and the picture
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: was at the game, just watching because you have a
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: picture for the summer before they go to college. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: play in the summer league, YEP, And the picture was
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: there and he was talking about it. Somebody went on
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: a burner, made a burner. Account was like talking trash
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: like he was the pitcher, and the coach for the
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: other team was like firing stuff back at the picture,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: thinking it was the even though the picture was like
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: this is not me, it was like, dude, you're the coach,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Like cal him down. The coach is a losing team.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: The coach needs to get off the I was like, dude,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: this is kind of kind of crazy. That's like the
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: middle like is he twelve the coach? No, It was
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: just like what are we talking off your phone?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: That's yeah?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It was anyway, all right, Well, send that's that clip
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: please because I would like to see. No, I don't
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: think I got it. That's usually something you would text us.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I have to get it.