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MISTRIAL... Shocking or nah? | HBR News 568 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBR News number 568, Mistrial, Shocking or Nah?
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  Speaker 1: Where we discuss the news of the week and give
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  Speaker 2: Hada wada, monofana.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's a duolingo, my ass.
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  Speaker 1: the news is right now. There was something about Germany, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting a new, like, something, something. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. That's nothing until it's something. Also, Gloria Steinem, RIP,
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  Speaker 1: the patron-only show. So I have this Medium article, Medium blog.
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  Speaker 1: Medium and I looked up just to see if there
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  Speaker 1: was anything that's, you know, decent rage bait for the
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  Speaker 1: patron show. I don't know if this is rage bait,
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  Speaker 1: but I did find this art, this blog by Desiree Peralta,
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  Speaker 1: a woman that we have responded to on this channel
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  Speaker 1: in the past, entitled, I read five books by women
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  Speaker 1: who hate men. She puts that in quotes, like they
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  Speaker 1: don't actually hate men. And they all made the same point.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that women hate men is another lie created
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  Speaker 1: by men. Says that women don't actually hate men proceeds
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  Speaker 1: let us get into today's stories.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Gloria Steinem. the pioneering feminist activist, journalist, and co-founder of Ms. Magazine,
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  Speaker 1: who became a central figure in the second wave feminist movement,
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  Speaker 1: died on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2026 at the age of 92.
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  Speaker 1: She passed away peacefully at her home in Manhattan, New
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  Speaker 1: York City, surrounded by, according to reports, her loved ones,
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  Speaker 1: according to a statement from her foundation posted on social media.
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  Speaker 1: No cause of death was given. The foundation noted.
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  Speaker 3: That- Well, we all know somebody threw a bucket of
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  Speaker 3: water on her.
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  Speaker 1: And she melted. Yes. No cause of death was given.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't really know exactly what it was. The
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  Speaker 1: foundation noted that she, quote, So, you know, no children.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't have family. She didn't have any kids. Steinem,
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  Speaker 1: born in 1934 in Toledo, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Transformed cultural attitudes towards women's roles in the workplace, home,
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  Speaker 1: and society, advocating for reproductive, well, abortion, I'll just put
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  Speaker 1: it that way, gender equality, and broader social justice causes
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  Speaker 1: over more than five decades. She was awarded the Presidential
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  Speaker 1: Medal of Freedom in 2013 by President Obama and left
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  Speaker 1: behind a forthcoming memoir entitled An Unexpected Life. Tributes poured
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  Speaker 1: in from politicians, activists, writers, and public figures worldwide, highlighting
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  Speaker 1: her influence in making women feel seen and empowering generations.
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  Speaker 1: Her foundation said her Upper East Side home will continue
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  Speaker 1: as a center for social justice organizing. So basically her
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  Speaker 1: house has just become a place where social justice people
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  Speaker 1: can organize. So anyway, this happened like two days after
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  Speaker 1: our show, our last week's news show. So this might
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  Speaker 1: feel like late news, but we didn't cover it yet.
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  Speaker 1: So I cede the floor to anyone who wants to
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  Speaker 1: give their thoughts on Gloria Steinem.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, do you want to go before me?
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  Speaker 2: Are you expecting me to do some quotes? Because, nope.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she might have some quotes, but they probably won't
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  Speaker 1: be very charitable.
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  Speaker 2: I'm invoking Thumper's Law. If you can't say something nice,
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  Speaker 2: don't say nothing at all. Laws aren't supposed to contain
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  Speaker 2: double negatives, so that might get confusing. But yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say anything mean or anything that paints
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  Speaker 2: her in a bad light. And it's quite difficult to
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  Speaker 2: find any Gloria Steinem quotes that don't, as you say,
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  Speaker 2: paint her in a bad light. And you see there,
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  Speaker 2: I've already inadvertently said something mean. It's quite the eggshell walk,
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  Speaker 2: this whole being respectful thing, this basic decency thing. I,
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  Speaker 2: for one, am watching this and looking for comparisons with
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  Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk thing. Which was one year ago. Almost exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be a year. No, wait. September 10th. The
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  Speaker 1: day before 9-11 is Charlie Kirk's murder.
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  Speaker 2: I follow quite a lot of people on Twitter and
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  Speaker 2: YouTube who are not fond of feminism. People to whom
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  Speaker 2: Gloria Steinem is something of a supervillain And there's been
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  Speaker 2: a couple of ding-dongs, sure. A fair few glib remarks.
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  Speaker 2: There have been some short obituaries that have looked unfavourably
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  Speaker 2: on her legacy, but it's been mostly pretty respectful. No
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  Speaker 2: one's celebrating this like it's a victory. It's not, by
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  Speaker 2: the way. She died at 92, of natural causes, surrounded
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  Speaker 2: by her loved ones. It's not exactly a tragedy, really.
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  Speaker 2: but it's not a victory either. It's just a very
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  Speaker 2: old person having a very unremarkable and frankly not untimely death.
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  Speaker 2: A tragedy is when an innocent 31-year-old with two young
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  Speaker 2: children to look after and the best part of their
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  Speaker 2: life still ahead of them gets publicly executed in front
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  Speaker 2: of the entire world. That's something that shouldn't happen. That
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  Speaker 2: That sort of thing should be avoidable, and it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it's a tragedy. It's a year on, and
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  Speaker 2: some of these scumbags are still celebrating the anniversary of
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  Speaker 2: that tragedy. And I cannot wait to see one of
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  Speaker 2: them having the chutzpah to go, they got so triggered
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  Speaker 2: over what people said about Charlie Kirk, but this is
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  Speaker 2: them talking about Gloria Steinem, hyperlinked. hypocrites much and it's
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  Speaker 2: just someone saying ding dong or something we're yeah we're
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  Speaker 2: we're ringing the bells because a 92 year old woman
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  Speaker 2: died peacefully surrounded by loved ones they genuinely think that's
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  Speaker 2: worse than jumping for joy when a 31-year-old man is assassinated.
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  Speaker 2: That's how convinced they are that they are on the
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  Speaker 2: right side of history. The sanctity of human life means
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  Speaker 2: nothing unless you agree with us politically. These people are
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  Speaker 2: at war. They're not just excusing murder, they are glorifying it.
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  Speaker 2: People only do that when they're at war. Or when
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  Speaker 2: they're in some kind of masochism. And, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: the conscientious objector in me that holds back the compulsion
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  Speaker 2: to say a load of mean things about Gloria Steinem.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not holding back out of pacifism. I'm holding
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  Speaker 2: back for my own sake. One day I'll be on
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  Speaker 2: my deathbed. Quite possibly with nothing but my own thoughts
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  Speaker 2: and my own memories. So I'm trying not to produce
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  Speaker 2: too many memories of me being a dick. So this
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  Speaker 2: is as much of a dick as I'm willing to be.
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  Speaker 2: Gloria Steinem was a flawed human. But she was a human.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. Come back in a year and see
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  Speaker 2: what kind of jokes I'm doing once the too-soon meridian
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  Speaker 2: has settled down. Well, I mean, come back in two
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  Speaker 2: weeks and we'll have already stopped talking about it. It's
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  Speaker 2: not that important. We're certainly not going to turn it
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  Speaker 2: into an annual event where we celebrate death. Because that
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  Speaker 2: would be weird, verging on evil. I think it might
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  Speaker 2: be straight up evil. I think it might be demonic. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let's maybe not all do that. Just a thought. Just
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  Speaker 2: my two cents.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Are we ready for this? Because I am not
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  Speaker 3: going to pay any mind to the HLs. I think
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  Speaker 3: Gloria Steinem was a demon in human skin I don't
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  Speaker 3: have any respect for her. And I don't care what
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  Speaker 3: people think about what I say about her death. She
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  Speaker 3: got to be 92 years old. But she pushed for
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  Speaker 3: women to be able to kill their children before birth.
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  Speaker 3: She pushed so hard that she had to advertise it
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  Speaker 3: on a t-shirt that she had done it. None of
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  Speaker 3: those kids even got to be a day old. Those
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  Speaker 3: kids didn't get to be almost born yet. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of them died in the first trimester or the second trimester.
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  Speaker 3: That is diabolical. And I don't believe that she didn't
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  Speaker 3: know that she was opening the door to what exists today,
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  Speaker 3: which is a world in which a third of the
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  Speaker 3: current generation being born right now is killed before they
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  Speaker 3: make it out of the womb. She co-founded the magazine
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  Speaker 3: that published the research Mary P. Koss used to persuade
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  Speaker 3: the government that if you are accused of intimate partner
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  Speaker 3: or sexual violence, you shouldn't have the same due process rights.
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  Speaker 3: As somebody who is accused of stealing. Or any other crime.
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  Speaker 3: If you get into a bar fight. Or if you.
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  Speaker 3: Actually if you're accused of murder. Your due process rights
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  Speaker 3: are more protected. Than if somebody accuses you of sexual violence.
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  Speaker 3: In particular.
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  Speaker 2: If the victim.
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  Speaker 3: If the accuser. Because the law says victim every time, right?
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  Speaker 3: If the accuser is embarrassed by questions that might prove
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  Speaker 3: that there's reasonable doubt as to whether or not you
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  Speaker 3: committed the crime, such as her saying to other people
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  Speaker 3: that she was never raped, that is no longer easy
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  Speaker 3: to get admitted into court. And they're striving today to
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  Speaker 3: get rid of it altogether. If it turns out that
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  Speaker 3: later on you're cleared, feminists don't want you to have
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  Speaker 3: any recourse for that either. So I don't feel sorry
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  Speaker 3: for anybody that's upset that she's gone. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that very many people even remember her that well. They'll
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  Speaker 3: know her name. They'll know that she was a feminist icon.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what happens when I talk to feminists
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter about what feminism is and what feminists have done,
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  Speaker 3: and I start talking about the things that Gloria Steinem did?
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  Speaker 3: That's not real feminism! I don't know who that woman is.
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  Speaker 3: She's not a real feminist. Literally. Modern feminists don't know her.
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  Speaker 3: She lived long enough to become irrelevant. But not until
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  Speaker 3: after she... helped to persuade Congress to pass the law
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  Speaker 3: that is being used today to kick young men out
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  Speaker 3: of school on false charges. Title IX. Steinem along with
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of other women. There were some famous women involved.
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  Speaker 2: I remember.
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  Speaker 3: Learning about this before, but And, of course, the ACLU
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  Speaker 3: got involved as well. They pushed for it, if I
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  Speaker 3: remember right. But Steinem was one of the front-runner, mover, shaker,
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  Speaker 3: get-this-done voices for this law. This was about ensuring that
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  Speaker 3: women would gain access to various fields like lawyering, doctoring,
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  Speaker 3: business majors, anything that the university needed graduates to go
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  Speaker 3: on and actually do the work in after they graduated
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  Speaker 3: so that they could bring prestige to the university, go
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  Speaker 3: on later to donate to the university. A university might
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  Speaker 3: want bragging rights if somebody graduated from their university and
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  Speaker 3: became great. They didn't want people who were going to
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  Speaker 3: do it for a quit working to raise their family,
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  Speaker 3: which is what women were doing back then. So she
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  Speaker 3: got the federal government to force universities to stop reserving
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  Speaker 3: any percentage of seats in classrooms for male students, right
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  Speaker 3: about the time that universities were already stopping that practice.
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  Speaker 3: And then Title IX, the Title IX office had nothing
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  Speaker 3: to do, because They didn't have universities to sue over this.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't have a fight to have after Steinem promised
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  Speaker 3: them a big fight, right? So what'd they do? They
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  Speaker 3: started policing sports. So, thanks to Gloria Steinem, many schools
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  Speaker 3: that couldn't just make up athletic programs for women because
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  Speaker 3: of quotas that were imposed by Title IX after it
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  Speaker 3: was created to get rid of quotas, allegedly, They had
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  Speaker 3: to get rid of their Olympic wrestling programs and their
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  Speaker 3: men's gymnastics programs. And it very quickly became an attack
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  Speaker 3: on men's sports. But that wasn't good enough, right? Title
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  Speaker 3: IX went on to get used by feminists in government,
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  Speaker 3: thanks to Steinem and her pushing for it to become
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  Speaker 3: a law in the first place. to regulate sexual conduct
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  Speaker 3: of students on university campuses and to create a parallel
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  Speaker 3: court system on university campuses where the burden of proof
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  Speaker 3: for allegations of misconduct was much lower than in the
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  Speaker 3: standard court system. So while a woman couldn't maybe get
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  Speaker 3: you jailed on an obviously obvious false allegation in the
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  Speaker 3: real court system. In the university court system, she might
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  Speaker 3: be able to get you expelled even when all of
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  Speaker 3: the evidence pointed to her as the perpetrator. Thanks, Gloria.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. That's very helpful. Now, the people who
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  Speaker 3: actually do the heavy work in society, the ones whose
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  Speaker 3: knowledge in areas of things like infectious diseases and, you know... gastroenterology.
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  Speaker 3: Areas that women just don't seem to go into as much.
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  Speaker 3: The men who might be needed if there is an
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  Speaker 3: emergency regarding the power system. The electrical power system. The
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  Speaker 3: men who invent... The machines that we use all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Those guys, they're getting kicked out of school now. Because
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  Speaker 3: they're the nerdy ones. They're the ones that give girls
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  Speaker 3: the ick. And they're the ones that are more likely
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  Speaker 3: to face false allegations on university campuses. And have their
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  Speaker 3: entire academic career ended before it ever gets started. And
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  Speaker 3: some of them might get some recourse. They might get
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  Speaker 3: enough money that it won't matter for them. But it
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  Speaker 3: sure would have been nice if they would have gone
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  Speaker 3: on to actually do the work. The public needs people
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  Speaker 3: who graduate from universities to do the work that they
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  Speaker 3: got their degree in as well. When it's that kind
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  Speaker 3: of work. No, I have zero respect for this woman.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't be arsed to come up with anything
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  Speaker 3: nice to say about her. And I can't be arsed
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  Speaker 3: to keep my mouth shut either. I just, it's not there.
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  Speaker 3: Like she went after everything. She even went after your porn.
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  Speaker 3: Like this was not, this isn't something that you can
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  Speaker 3: complain all you want. That, you know, I'm a hypocrite.
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  Speaker 3: for objecting to people celebrating a man getting his neck
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  Speaker 3: blown out with a gun while he was young and
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  Speaker 3: he still had kids to raise. A man who was
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  Speaker 3: close to the same age, actually, as my kids. But
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  Speaker 3: a 92-year-old woman who led a life of hate and
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  Speaker 3: attacking an entire gender over and over again who demonized
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  Speaker 3: men as the reason for everything bad in society. It
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  Speaker 3: said they were completely unnecessary. Now, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: the same. And you can fight me. And then in
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  Speaker 3: the meantime, there goes the eggshells.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I have some quotes. And look, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to color them in any way or comment on them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary. We all know who Gloria
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  Speaker 1: Steinem is. But I thought I would read some quotes
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  Speaker 1: because we do this every time somebody passes away. And
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  Speaker 1: let's do a few Gloria Steinem quotes. So, on liberation.
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  Speaker 1: None of us can be liberated if other groups are not.
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  Speaker 1: These all seem really like, you know, innocuous, right? On feminism,
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  Speaker 1: a feminist is anyone who recognizes the equality and full
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  Speaker 1: humanity of women and men. On men, a woman without
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  Speaker 1: a man is like, you probably heard this one before,
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  Speaker 1: a fish without a bicycle. Let's see, another one. Power
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  Speaker 1: can be taken but not given. The process of the
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  Speaker 1: taking is empowerment in itself.
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  Speaker 2: See, y'all are trying to get me to say something bad.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just reading her things.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking what everyone else is thinking, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to let everyone know that I'm thinking
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: what everyone else is thinking. I'm just not saying it. Mm-hmm.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: All right. The abolition and suffrage movements progressed when unified
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and were damaged by division. We should remember that. But
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: they did succeed, so I don't get why that's a problem.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I have yet to hear a man ask for advice
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: on how to combine marriage and a career. We'll never
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: solve the feminization of power until we solve the masculinity
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of wealth. What does that mean?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: What does any of this mean?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Now we know that, say, women can do what men
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: can do. Most folks would agree with that. But we
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: don't know that men could do what women can do. What?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: This is why I didn't do this.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not commenting. I knew I'd find nothing but fucking gobbledygook.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry she's dead. But everything she said was couple
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. So let me, there's one other thing too, though.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So she did say that, I'm just, I just want
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to point out what she thought about marriage. So before
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: she married a guy named David Bale in the year 2000,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was September 3rd, 2000. David Bale is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a South African guy, also the father of Christian Bale,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but not Gloria Steinem's son, but from a previous marriage
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of some kind, because she was already in her 60s
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: when she married this guy. She spent decades as one
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of the most prominent critics of marriage as an institution.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So she got married, despite the fact that she fought
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: against marriage as an institution, and said, like, for example,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in 1962, there was an Esquire article saying where it
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was her first major assignment covering how women were forced
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to choose between a career and marriage, predating Betty Friedan's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: The Feminine Mystique by one year. In 1973, she called
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: marriage an unconstitutional contract with one party having the financial
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: responsibilities and the other charged with providing domestic and sexual services.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And she also said.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: She's not wrong, but she's wrong in completely the wrong direction, John.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She said a woman, quote, becomes a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: semi-non-person when you get married, end quote, and described the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: institution as, quote, the model for slavery law in this country,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: end quote. And she ended up getting married. And I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: only saying this because this goes, just to make my point,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to attack this person personally, I've
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: already said plenty about her, and yeah... In a little while,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it'll be like no longer too soon. But I will
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: say that it is just another example of feminists basically
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: telling other women to take advice that they will not
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: themselves take. Now, she didn't have kids. I guess that's something.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: But she did eventually get married. And I think it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was because she realized that she couldn't be alone. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: when they say she passed away surrounded by loved ones...
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I think they were just friends of hers or people
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that worked with her, not necessarily family members and certainly
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not kids because she didn't have any. And so the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: question I put to women who are fans of hers is,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is that what you want your last days to be?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Do you want it to be surrounded by people who
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: maybe they just admire your work? Maybe they're psychophants. Maybe
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: they're just, you're having like a parasocial relationship with them,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: but you don't really know them. They're not your family.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: They're not your blood. They're not your children. And I mean,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: is that what you want? And I mean, because most
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of this stuff, for what I've seen, almost every prominent
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: feminist is engaging in a form of mate suppression against
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: other women by saying, well, don't get married or have kids.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And they'll be coming time forward has children, at least one. Well, like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: why are we listening to her? So, I think this
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is just another interesting example of a woman that was
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: really against marriage and basically treated the genders like they
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: were not just equal, but like the same. Because she
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was like, men need to be more like women. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: something about women becoming the men that they wanted to marry. So,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: but women, is that really what you want? And that's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the thing. Like, feminists never ask women what they want.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: But anyway... So, I just wanted to share my thoughts
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: on that. And, you know, I'm not going to call
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: her a hypocrite. I don't have to. The point is,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they never intended to live up to the standards that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: they're basically trying to hold other women to. So, anyway.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I just have to wonder if Christian Bale was by
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: her bedside at the time.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You want me to fucking trash your lights? You want
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: me to trash your fucking lights?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: It's useless now, isn't it?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. All right. Anyway, so let me see.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Someone do an AI cartoon of that scene.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Do that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I want to see if there's any comments, and then
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we're going to move on to the next one. So
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I did get one super child from Meredith G, who
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: gives us $ 5 and says, HBR News 568, honey for
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the badgers. Thank you, Meredith. I think she meant to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: say something bigger, but probably didn't have time. But I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: appreciate that regardless. Okay, and I think that's it. All right.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So we're going to move on to the next story.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the mistrial. So a Massachusetts judge declared
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a mistrial on Friday, September 4th, my birthday, 2026. in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the high-profile murder trial of Lindsay Clancy, the 36-year-old former
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: labor and delivery nurse from Duxbury, charged with strangling her
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: three children, Cora 5, Dawson 3, and Callan 8 months
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: in January of 2023. After nearly seven days and about
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: 38 to 40 hours of deliberations, the jury of nine
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: women and three men reported they were hopelessly deadlocked with
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a heavy heart and could not reach a unanimous verdict
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: on whether Clancy was criminally responsible. Defense attorneys argued that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: she suffered from postpartum psychosis and possibly bipolar disorder. Let's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: just pile on a bunch of other mental issues. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: thus lacked criminal responsibility. Prosecutors maintained the killings were deliberate.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: A single holdout juror, one man, reportedly acknowledged reasonable doubt
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: but refused to follow the judge's instructions on the law,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: prompting an unsuccessful emergency appeal by the defense to Massachusetts'
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Supreme Judicial Court to remove the juror or halt the mistrial.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Clancy remains held without bail at Tewksbury State Hospital. A
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: status hearing is set for September 29th, and the Plymouth
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: County District Attorney will decide whether to retry the case.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Supporters of Clancy, many of whom had gathered outside the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Plymouth Superior Court throughout the trial wearing pink and advocating
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: for better postpartum mental health care, reacted with a mix
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of emotion, frustration, and continued advocacy after the mistrial. Online,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: particularly on TikTok, where the case had already generated tens
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of hundreds of thousands of videos and she raised over
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a million dollars, including same Lindsay trends, which mothers identify
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: with their diary entries about postpartum struggles, conspiracy theories blaming
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: her ex-husband, some of those are absolutely remarkable, and fan
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: content around her defense attorney. Reactions included disappointment at the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: lack of an acquittal, criticism of the holdout juror, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: calls for, that's putting it mildly, by the way, they
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: hated that guy, and calls for systemic changes in maternal
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: mental health treatment. Some supporters present at the courthouse heckled
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the district attorney during his post-mistrial remarks, while broader social
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: media discourse amplified both empathy for Clancy's claimed mental state
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and intense backlash against those defenses. So....
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: When we first heard that the jury was 11 against 1,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and that was all we knew, the thought did occur
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to us that it was, like, one.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Radical feminist blue haired goon against 11 sane people and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that would have been bad enough that would have been
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: see that that's the slippery slope we let one of
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: them in and it's only a matter of years before
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the whole system falls apart you what no it's 11
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: blue haired goons against one sane man and yes it
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: was a man the defense lawyer at first called him
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: he or she but then proceeded to call him he
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: for the entire rest of that appeal or whatever it was.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Strikes me as a tad incompetent, this defense lawyer. How
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: in God's ass he managed to convince 11 people of
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: anything is the icing on the shit cake. You've got
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a woman who obviously did it. On top of that,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: you've got a bumbling pettifogger as the defense lawyer. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: still 11 people out of 12 want to throw the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: book as far away from her as possible. That's how
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: far we are down the slippery slope. We're not at
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the top. Not even close. We are practically at the bottom. But,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, a toast must be made to the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: hero of our age. Jura number 12. The one sane
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: man who stood up to the blue-haired goon mob for...
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Was it 40 hours, was it?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, 40 hours.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: What a Chad.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: This is beyond Giga Chad now. We've hit Terra Chad.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: This motherfucker.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Tetra Chad. Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: You say you'd like to shake his hand and buy
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: him a drink and whatnot. But you can't. You cannot
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: know who this man is. You cannot see his face
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: or hear his voice or confirm that it is him
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: talking for his own good and for everyone's good. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: he can't talk about it if he has any sense.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's illegal to talk about it, right? But
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: even if it wasn't, Bro cannot let the general public
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: know who he is or he is in grave danger.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So he's just this heavenly nobody. It feels very strange,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: but in a good way, to have such admiration for
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: an abstraction of a man based purely on his actions.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: He's the unknown soldier. We know him not as a man,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: but as the idea of a man. And like the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: unknown soldier, he deserves a military parade.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I'm serious.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: He's out there somewhere. He knows who he is. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: don't forget, he can't get a GoFundMe.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Or whatever.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: He can't go public at all. He can't rake in
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: a million dollars for what he's done for the future
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: of mankind. He was the man. who stood at the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: bottom of the slippery slope and said, yes, you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Are all wrong.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's a white pill, but it's a tiny white pill.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It's a grain of sand-sized white pill in an abyss
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: of black pill goo. But it's something. So the very
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: least we can give him is an official 60-gun salute
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: or something. Come on! We need a public event. We
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: need flags waving across the world for the unknown soldier.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: He deserves it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And we deserve it. I... I acknowledge that three children
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: are dead. By the way, it's just... We want fewer
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: dead children. We're doing this because fewer dead children is better.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It's kind of weird that we even need to argue
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: that case, but here we are, 11 to 1 against
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the motion that fewer dead kids is better. And we're
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: left wondering how the fuck we stopped the lemmings from
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: slipping down the slope. Good luck, gentlemen and ladies to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: whatever extent, and a toast to the unknown soldiers, all
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: of you. Honey Badger Radio is run by unknown soldiers
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in case you didn't know. God bless all of you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I just want to point out regarding the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: defense attorney and his effort to direct people's attention to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the potential identity of the holdout juror. The one sane
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: man In the case that there's a particular law, Section
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: 2261 of this law, Section 2261A, actually, of this law,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: states that whoever within the United States and the interstate
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: or foreign commerce activities or is present within the jurisdiction
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: of special maritime or territorial of the United States, with
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the intent to harass or intimidate another person, engages in
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: a course of conduct that could be reasonably expected to
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: cause substantial emotional distress or reasonable fear, Of that person
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: being injured. Reasonable fear for that person's safety. Or the
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: safety of any other family members. That person is guilty
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: of stalking. It would be hilarious. To see that attorney charged.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: For stalking another man. Under the Violence Against Women Act.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: But it is supposed to be gender neutral. We get
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: told all the time. On social media, when we point
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: out that it was created to gender intimate partner and
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: sexual violence law, that, oh no, VAWA's gender neutral. You
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. There's a gender neutrality clause. Well,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: if there's a gender neutrality clause, this attorney has just
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: set the internet sleuths of the crazy left on a
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: chase by narrowing it down to one of three people
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: and now other jurors are confirming that it was a
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: man because some of the women are taking interviews And
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: they're using he as well. So, frankly, all three of
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: the men that were on that jury are now justified
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: in filing complaints if they want to. Whether one does
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: or not, we won't see it until we see it
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: if it happens. But it is a thing. All you
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: have to do to be guilty in that instance is
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: is engage in a course of conduct that would be
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: reasonably expected to cause somebody substantial emotional distress. Technically, that
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: chick on X that sent me the moment of Charlie
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Kirk's death over and over again could have been.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: She made new accounts to continue doing it, too. But
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: she could have been in violation because... Seeing somebody's throat
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: blown out. Even if they're. Not somebody that you care about.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Even if you like. This is a complete and utter stranger.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And you've never heard of this person before. It would still.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Cause a lot of people. Substantial emotional distress. But. And
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I could say. It was definitely with intent to harass.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: But you know. That's all it takes. Honestly. That is
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: all it takes. To violate the Violence Against Women Act.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: This is so much more because these people have shown
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: up to protest the case. They have made a huge
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: big deal about it on social media. And they are
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: on the same side of the political fence as people
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: who burned down whole neighborhoods and threw bricks through stores
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: and looted and attacked the police, tried to burn them
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: alive inside their department buildings, broke into people's houses, stole
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: dragged their pets out into the street and killed them.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: So you never know what kind of things these people
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: are going to do. If I were that guy, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: would definitely go and get a restraining order. I would
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: definitely go and file a police report. I've been doxxed
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: as a juror. I want to start the criminal process.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I would absolutely do that. And I wouldn't worry about
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: if people might say anything because who cares what they say.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: It's important to protect yourself and your family. That is
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: the bottom line. Single most important thing. It's exactly the
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: same thing I said when we got doxxed years ago
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: on Twitter, like original Twitter. And I pointed out I'm
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: not sure that there's any reason to be scared of
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: our doctor, but I still made a note. I left
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: information with the police. This is what happened. I don't
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: think this person's ever going to do anything, but if
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: something happens and there's no explanation and I end up
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: missing or dead, that's where you need to start looking.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: And of course, I was right. Nothing ever happened. Nothing
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: ever came out of it. But if I had been wrong,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: at least there would have been a few breadcrumbs to
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: start following for the police. And hopefully they would have
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: caught whoever did it. That's what you got to do,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: especially if you have a family. And when we talked
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: about it later on Honey Badger Radio, one of the
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: things I said, it's like I like talking to people, right?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I'll meet people in our gatherings and sit and chat.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: And by the time you leave, I will have talked
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: at least one of your ears off, maybe both. But
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: don't come to my house uninvited because you're not going
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: to talk to me. You're going to talk to one
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: of the local cops. That's the attitude you should have.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: If somebody is giving out your private information, if you're
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: being doxxed for your beliefs or for your standards, for
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: your ethics, for any reason that is essentially a disagreement
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: with your practice of your beliefs, and this man decided
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: what he believed was true and he stood by it,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: then you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Use the police the way that they are intended to
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: be used. Don't let anyone confront you. And don't let
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: any kind of, even the mildest threat, go unreported. They
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: don't have to do an investigation if nobody comes to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: your house and attacks you. Having that information is enough
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: for them to just hold on to it and be
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: prepared if they have to act on it. That is
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: all that's necessary. And that's all you have to do.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: You don't have to bend over backward to be the
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: nice guy in a situation like that. If somebody gets
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: into trouble for something like that, it's their fault that
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: they did the wrong thing in the first place. So
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: that's the first thing I will say. Second thing is
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I am neither disappointed nor surprised about the mistrial. Kind
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: of knew this was going to happen. Even though it
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: is 100% true that there was no diagnosis of postpartum
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: anything with her and there was no bipolar diagnosis. She
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: did not have the diagnoses she was claiming were the
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: reason that she was not guilty by reason of insanity.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: The insanity defense is supposed to be very carefully guarded.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It is only supposed to be usable in a situation
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: where the individual in the case was unable to tell
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: right from wrong in the moment. Unable to appraise their actions,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: in other words. If they do things like try to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: hide what happened or try to take themselves out in
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: order to avoid the consequences. That indicates knowledge that what
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: they were doing is wrong. If they start searching on
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: the internet ways to look crazy, that indicates that they're
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: not crazy. There was a wealth of evidence that this
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: woman knew what she was doing when she did it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: And she knew it was wrong when she did it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And she planned it ahead of time. And she tried
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: to plan how to make herself look nuts so that
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: she could get away with it. And not only did
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: all of the women who didn't have that evidence just
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: jump to her defense without looking into the case... And
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: even make fucked up shit up. About her husband. In
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: her defense. With no evidence whatsoever. To back it. But
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the women on the jury. Who knew the things that
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I just told you. Because they had that evidence presented.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: We're going to exonerate her. They were going to. Send
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: her to the mental health institution instead of jail for
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: however long. And for what reason? Because it wasn't going
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: to free her. They weren't doing this for Lindsay Clancy.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Nobody talking about this case is talking about it because
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: they give a rat's ruddy ass about Lindsay Clancy. None
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: of the women who are claiming to support her None
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: of the women who went to the protest. None of
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: the women on the jury or the two simps. None
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: of them care about Lindsay Clancy. And they don't care
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: about her children either. They care about themselves. Some of
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: them are doing it because they want to latch on
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: to something that is big and popular. Some of them
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: are doing it because they want the excuse to be
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: set in stone. Some of them are doing it because
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: other women are doing it and they don't want to
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: be the odd woman out that's not doing it. They
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: have to be part of the in-group. Some of them
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: are doing it because they're just plain stupid. None of
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: them are doing it because they think Lindsay Clancy is
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the end-all be-all of maternalism. existence. And all of the
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: women that are whining online about how men are reacting
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to this. What the fuck did you think was going
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to happen? You took the mask off. Now you're mad.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: That men know what you look like. Now you're mad
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: that men saw and rejected what you showed them. And
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you can't put the hangover back in the beer bottle.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. Now we have women castigating
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: men for rejecting the crazy. And they genuinely seem to
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: think That that's going to change things. That's going to
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: improve the situation. Well, here's reality. There's a 50-50 chance
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: right now. Until, you know, we hear more from the prosecutor.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And what the prosecutor has to say might increase the chance.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: We know that her parents have raised over a million dollars.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: And they're trying to raise $ 3 million. They increased it
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: to $ 3 million, the goal to $ 3 million in their
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: fundraiser the day of the mistrial. Chances are some of
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: that money is going to go to her defense. They
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: don't have to say that it's going to go to
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: her defense because they just basically said their living expenses. But,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: you know, her defense might be part of their living expenses.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: There is.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Every chance in the world a prosecutor might decide it's
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: going to be too expensive and just leave her in
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: the institution, let her plead to a lesser charge that
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: places her in the institution, or to a lesser charge
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: that will put her in prison for years, but not
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: for life. But there's also still a chance that the
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: prosecutor will make her go through this again, and women
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: will complain about it. They'll complain that, Oh, this poor
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: woman has to go through all that again, that whole
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: trial and all the things that made her cry during
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: the trial. I hope that happens. Because if that's punishment,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it's nowhere near enough, but it might be the only
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: punishment we ever see. I think she should have to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: look at what she did over and over again. And
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I think every woman out there should be scared that
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: they might have to go through that too. Look at
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: what they did over and over again. Be reminded, this
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: is the kind of person that you are. You have
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: to look into the mirror without the mask. That is
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: the hardest thing for women. They don't deal well with
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: being rejected by men. And they don't deal well with
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: seeing other women that maybe look like them under that
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: mask criticized. But when you take that mask off of
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: her and you force her to face the mirror and
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: she can't look away from it, that is the hardest
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: on her ego. She can't ignore the things that her
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: narcissism covers up when she's wearing that mask. So, maybe
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: the mistrial was one of the best things that could
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: ever happen. If the prosecutor... Decides to go ahead and...
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Go through another trial. And put her through another trial.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And....
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. Maybe that'll scare the fuck out
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: of women. Something has to.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it's either going to scare women or it's going
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to radicalize men. Which I'm kind of... I don't think
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it would be radical. I think it would just become
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: pragmatic at that point.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Why not both?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Why not both? Well, yeah. I mean, again... The Lindsay
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Clancy case is going to shake out however it shakes out.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: But it is interesting. The reaction to it is really
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the story as far as I'm concerned. And I'm glad
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: there was at least one man on the jury that,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you know, had the testicular fortitude to stand on business
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and not allow this to happen. I don't know if
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: this is going to, like, be changed if they do
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: this again or what. But let us know what you
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: guys think about this one in the comments. I'm going
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to read your super chats and super... Chows, and we're
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: going to move on to the next one. So Meredith G, G,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: gave us $ 5 and said, HBR News number 568, YouTube
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: is messing with me today. I'm technologically frustrated, or technology frustrated.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: So I finished Janice Fiamengo's book this weekend. Chapter 11
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: talks about killer mothers. The reality that no one wants
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: to talk about is there is something fundamentally broken in
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the women who kill, and it's not postpartum. In Massachusetts,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: rules on insanity defense means she would have likely gotten
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: off because it's so loose and too easy. The problem
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I have is Clancy, who was a labor and delivery nurse,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: did too many things that were indicative of premeditation, yes,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: from doctor shopping to researching how long the errands would
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: take her husband, but the law was in her favor
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: because the prosecutors had to prove she was sane. Remember,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the husband was a man who worked from home and
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: hired help. Yes, she had more support than the average
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: woman who does not kill her kids. Um, but Clancy
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: was still struggling, even though she saw multiple doctors, several
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: of whom were women who flagged her for doctor shopping.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I thank the loan holdout on the trial.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I just want to remind everybody though, um, this case
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: was never about whether she is convicted of a crime
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: or gets off. It's whether she's considered responsible for what
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: she did or whether she's considered too crazy to be responsible.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: And if they consider her too crazy to be responsible,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: in order to get out of the mental institution, the
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: mental health prison, she has to prove that she is
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: no longer crazy. So she would have to prove that
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: her mentality was different in the mental health prison than
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: it was during the killings. And since there is no
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: proof that she had postpartum, then she would have to
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: rely on a bipolar diagnosis or some other diagnosis of psychosis.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: And if she can prove she's psychotic and then prove
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: she's cured of it, she's going to end up proving
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: that she's a psychopath, which will get her kept in
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the institution. There is still a reasonable chance that the
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: next trial, if there is one, may result in a
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: finding of not guilty by reason of insanity. She goes
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: into the institution, and a year and a half or
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: two later, they decide that she's cured. But it's a stretch.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: It is unlikely... that someone like her would be released
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: that easily.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true. Thank you for that, Meredith. Senior Six gives
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: $ 2 and says, Mistrial just means someone made an error
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: under law. No, it was because they couldn't come to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: a conclusion. Ultimately, the guy was not willing to acquit her.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: They were all asking for that. Because there's a bunch
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: of activists in the jury and weak men. I hate
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: to say it, but they are. And they were willing
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: to let her go after she murdered three kids and
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: effectively ruined, you know, their lives, obviously, because they're dead,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and her husband's life. So, yeah, I mean, justice has
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to be done. So that's what I think it comes
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: down to. And people who are attacking the defense attorney,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I think that he's in the unfortunate position of having to, like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: do his very best to, like, do his job as
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: a defense attorney. So I don't hold it against him
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: for that. I mean, yeah, there's some manipulation going on,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: but he's a lawyer. What do you expect?
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't hold it against him for taking
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: a case and doing his best to handle the case
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: the way an attorney is supposed to handle the case.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: But I do hold it against him for doc, you know,
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: pseudo doxing that juror because he should have known better.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: An attorney should have known.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if he let it slip on
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: purpose or not. Probably because lawyers are good with words.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then yes, that's crappy. But
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: there were three men, so it could have been one
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: of three. But all three of those guys are probably
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: going to face harassment if they don't know who it is.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Well, one of them is probably going to end up
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: giving up the other guy because he's not going to
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: want to be harassed. And I wouldn't blame him for
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: that under that circumstance. But the thing is, an attorney...
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: who is careless enough with his words to do something
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: like that, shouldn't be an attorney. And I know that
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: this attorney is facing some other complaints in his area.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I know that they haven't been, there's been no adjudication
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: of those, but like he's got other problems. So this isn't,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: this isn't just, you know, a one-off with him. I
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: do hold it against, him.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I may have a different attitude about this than everybody else. Y'all,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: the reason that I was unable to interview to be
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: in the Red Pill movie because I was approached for it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I couldn't do it because I wasn't sure that it
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: was going to be safe for my family. During the
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: seven years in hell case, when I was in the bathroom,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I was threatened by the vexatious litigant and her supporter
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: from Artemis House that they were going to find out
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: where I lived and send child protective services to take
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: my children. This was no joke. There was no way
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: for me to prove it. There was nothing I could
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: do about it except maintain anonymity. And so I maintained
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: anonymity online. And that's why I was Della Burton for
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: the longest time instead of Hannah Wallen on Honey Badger
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Radio and with a voice for men till my kids
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: were old enough that Child Protective Services couldn't do anything
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: because they're going to be adults. Two out of three
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: were already adults, and my son was in the last
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: year of childhood before I let my name out because
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: of that. So I take this very seriously.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Threatening somebody with harm is not the only thing that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: they can do. There are worse things than I'm going
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: to kick your ass. I'm going to take your kids
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: as terrifying, especially when you're talking about child protective services.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: They're scarier than the IRS.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Got another super chat from Blade40012 for $ 7. 99 Australian.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Boy, is it early there?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: And he says, his did they know it was a guy?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Or you mean how did they know it was a guy?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Isn't that jury intimidating? Well, the defense attorney and I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: think some other people accidentally slipped that it was a man.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: By using he, him pronouns, I think, when they were
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: talking about the fact that somebody wasn't going with the flow.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Somebody was disagreeable in the jury. So, yeah, you could
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: say that. But I don't know if it was an
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: accident or not. But, I mean, it doesn't matter now.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So it is what it is. Anyway, thanks for the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: super chats and super chows. Let me know what you
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: guys think about this one in the comments. We have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to move on to the next story, although it is
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: a related one. We're going to talk about Dawn Light. So,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Dawn Light, a 56-year-old retired nurse from Sutton, Massachusetts, was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: arraigned on Wednesday morning, September 2nd, so the day before
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the mistrial was announced. in Plymouth District Court on a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: charge of intimidation of a juror, witness, police, well, intimidation
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of a juror, witness, police, or court official. She was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: arrested the previous afternoon outside Plymouth Superior Court after allegedly
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: filming jurors exiting the building during the fourth day of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: deliberations in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. Prosecutors said Light
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: had parked her car in a restricted area with a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: clear view of the jurors' exit door. She initially denied
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: filming anyone and claimed that she was only waiting to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: see Clancy leave, but deleted videos recovered from her phone
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: showed the jurors. She pleaded not guilty and was released
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: on personal recognizance. The judge ordered Light to stay away
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: from the courthouse and its grounds, except for her own
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: court appearances, have no contact with jurors or witnesses in
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: the Clancy case, and refrain from sharing or disseminating any
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: images or videos she may have taken or stored. Prosecutors
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: had sought a $ 50, 000 cash bail arguing her actions put, quote,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the sanctity of the judicial system at risk, end quote,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and violated a specific court order barring the photographing or
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: filming of jurors, but the request was denied. Light's attorney
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: described the incident as a, quote, complete misunderstanding, end quote,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: stating she had only sought a photo of Clancy and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: had no intention of interacting with or intimidating the jurors.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Light herself later told reporters she did not know how
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: her actions constituted intimidation. She is due back in court
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: on October the 15th.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: They say you can judge a man by his enemies.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: And that's the most depressing thing. So many of our
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: enemies are comically incompetent. They just stumble around constantly Breaking
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the law. But they get away with it. Because the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: law is operated by those among our enemies who are
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: not incompetent. Just evil. By evil I mean destructive. Self-righteously destructive.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: By choice. They mean to destroy us. And they do
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: it really quite efficiently. But in the meantime, they recruit
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: useful idiots. Useful idiots who also mean to destroy us.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: But all they can do is lop as revolutionaries, constantly
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: breaking the law because they think the laws shouldn't apply
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: to anyone on the quote-unquote right side of history, as
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: dictated by the competently evil lizard people running our society
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: and tell us what to think. And it's not just
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: the law. You see it every day. In everyday conversation.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: You're trying to discuss politics. And you're hit with a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: name call. You're a misogynist. You're a fascist. And you're
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: like okay. You're a communist. You're a misogynist. How am
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I those things? Good question. How am I those things?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: And you find yourself landing right back on. actual arguments. Like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the things people are saying, not the labels that you
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: can apply to them, as though applying labels counts as
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: an argument against what they're saying. That's kind of why
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: I had to stop calling myself an atheist. Someone asks you,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: as an atheist, what do you blah blah blah? And
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that wasn't supposed to be the point. But,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: If I'm calling myself that, then I guess that is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: a good point. Good point. So now I'm like, I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: don't call myself anything other than male and British and Mike.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: And I will try my best not to call you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: any ism either, whoever you are. I do not require
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: you to possess an identity in order to discuss a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: subject with you. if you feel the need to call
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: me something, if you can't proceed in the argument without
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: calling me something, then I put it to you that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: you are not arguing in what is sometimes memetically called
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: good faith. How did I get here? Oh yeah, because
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: of the increasingly low standards to which women are set,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the female incompetence, upwit, With which we have decided to put.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: We've found ourselves surrounded by women who think name-calling is
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: an argument. We're surrounded by women who think they should
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: be allowed to murder their children. And we're surrounded by
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: women who think they can unmask the unknown soldier and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: get away with it. Fuck you. Not the unknown soldier.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: If you touch a hair on this man's head, If
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: you film a hair on this man's head, so help
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: me God, I cannot complete this sentence. We're not that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: far out of the woods just yet, gentlemen. We're not
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: allowed to say quite what can be said and should
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: be said. But soon. Soon and for the rest of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: your lives. White pills always feel tentative. Because if you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: get it wrong, you will be humiliated. It's a risk.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Everything in life is a risk. But you don't have
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: to take every risk. Like, just don't film jurors. Don't
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: just break the law when you don't even realise that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it's a risk. That it This is a breaking.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Of the law.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: At least have some sense of what a risk is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: or what a law is. Someone?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Anyone?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I have stopped making sense. And I will stop making noises.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Because fuck noises. Someone else say something.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: For the love of God.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Alright, Hannah, go ahead.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: How very like a woman.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: in a restricted area which I'm sure was marked even
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't there would have been a sign this
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: area is restricted don't come in here but you know
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: well I'm a woman who wants something so I'm an
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: exception um one of the places where I work is
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: in a restricted area And it's not restricted. Like there
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: are guards there. Stopping people from coming in. And you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: have to show some ID or something. But you're not
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: supposed to go in there. If you're not supposed to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: be there. If you don't live there. You're not delivering there.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: And stuff like that. And I can't tell you how
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: many times. I've seen women drive their cars in there.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: To just turn around. And shit like that. There's the sign.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Says restricted. Don't come in here.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: But.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Even though there are other places on that road really
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: close by to turn around, that's where they go. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: of course, you know, I have a reason, therefore it's okay,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: is very like a woman. Men look at stuff like
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: this and think, I'm going to get in trouble if
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: I disobey that. I'm not going to do it. There
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: has to be more than just a minor reason. There
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: has to be a life or death compelling reason to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: do something like that most of the time. Once in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: a blue moon, you get a dude coming through there.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: But most of the time, no. I've even seen people
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: go in there to photograph things that are interesting in
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: the topography or the local wildlife that wanders through that area.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: But just saying. Also, I'm going to read... Oh, I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: see Mwawi's Rumble Rant. Oh, I see him. Oh, I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: see him. Well, he gave us two dollars and said,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just a girl. I didn't know this was intimidation.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: And that's part of what I was going to say.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: So I thought I should make sure. That I share
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: the credit for that, because I'm not the only one
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: that thought of it, obviously. This is a thing. I'm
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: just a girl. I didn't know any better. I'm just female.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know the rules. I'm just female. I'm just female.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know how this system works. But there is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: at least some sort of marking to tell you when
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: an area that you could enter otherwise is off limits
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: to you. There's usually a do not enter sign, something
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: saying that it's restricted, some kind of tape saying that
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: it's marked off and you're not supposed to be there.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Something along those lines. And If you're going to try
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: to get imagery of somebody and you only want that person,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: you don't photograph everyone and everything else that's around that area.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: You only photograph or videograph the jurors if you wanted
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: video of the jurors. But a lot of women expect
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: people to believe them if they just look innocent and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: tell a lie. Gosh, I was just trying to get
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: a glimpse of the star of the show. I wasn't
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: trying to harass the people that have to make any
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: decisions here. You know, nothing untoward is going on here.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize the area is restricted. I didn't know
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: the rules applied to me. I'm just a girl. Bullshit.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it. And of course, I don't think
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: a judge does... either.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Hopefully, he.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Makes an example of her. Because somebody needs to be
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: an example in this situation. And certainly the women on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: the jury haven't been.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, again, this is just showing how completely
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: divorced from reality these women are. Like, they don't know
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: that we have ways of doing things, and they're just
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: doing what they want to. And I think that it's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: because there aren't enough consequences. So, I hope that she
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: does get consequences. I mean, I hope it doesn't, like,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody else that, you know, depends on her, like,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: if she has children somewhere or something like that, but
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, you can't be doing this. This is,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: it's insane. Like, you're being children. It's retarded. We're going
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: to get demonetized. But we're not. We've been demonetized forever. Anyway, yeah,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: so that's crazy. And, well, it's going to get worse.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, the next story is worse. But let me
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: see what you guys are saying. Then we're going to
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: move on to the next story. So Master Goa gives
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: us five bucks on Super Chat and says, I don't
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: understand the mental argument. Of mice and men is the way.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Whether they are mentally capable or not, some need to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: be put in the ground. Yeah, well, the... I mean,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree that there should be, there needs to
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: be consequences. Look, I'm not going to make the argument
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: for or against the mental health thing. I think that's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: been very, it's very well-worn territory. The fact is, is
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that it's the women's reaction to the case that's the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: real story. As I've said, it's their reaction that's the issue, not...
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the fact that this has happened. Like, the old saying goes,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun. There are cases of
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: women and men going postal and taking out their whole
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: family or their kids or whatever. And in every other
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: case that has happened in the past, if it was
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: relatively straightforward, there was no conversation about raising money for
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: the perpetrator, especially if it was a man. They were
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, okay, he hangs, he goes to jail, whatever.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: We just... Most people... Because it happens– if you're not
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: in the vicinity, if it's not like a local crime
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that you're learning about, the overwhelming majority of people don't
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: even know who that person is or anything. They don't
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: know anything about the case at all. But we are
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: now living in a time where everything has to become
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: the new moral panic that we have to talk about.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: And the Lindsay Clancy case is just the latest iteration
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: of it. And of course, it is the thing that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: is consuming women that are online. But not just that,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people are saying, well, you know,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: it's a very small, I think it was Jillian Michaels,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: who's like the, she used to be like a fitness
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: instructor that made like VHS tapes about working out. And
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: of course, then she like threw her hat in the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: ring on talking about politics because She lived in California
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: when the lockdowns were going on and then when the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: fires happened and all the other chaos that was going
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: on in California. So now she's talking about this. And
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: when she was referring to the Lindsay Clancy case, she
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: was saying, well, what about the 99.998% of women that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: think that Lindsay Clancy should, you know, basically go to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: jail or, or go to something, go away for a
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: long time. And I was like, you don't know that
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: it's 99% of women. Like, it could be probably a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: lot higher than you think. And it doesn't matter if it's, like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: a majority or not. The point is that this is, like,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: a critical mass of women. Like, way too many women
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: that are supporting her. And they have crazy theories. Like,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: one woman said that Patrick Clancy is a pedophile. I'm
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: just going to say pedophile. I hate censoring my speech.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: PDF file, whatever. She accused him of being a pedophile
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: because he liked to take his daughters on trips. You know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: the things that dads do. It was anything to make
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: him look like the villain and Clancy look like the victim. Anything.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And that's not a small percentage. That's a lot. A
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: lot of women that are doing that. So, I think
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that we... do ourselves a disservice if we don't look
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: at it for what it really is or what it
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: potentially is and stop trying to minimize female evil. Stop
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: it because you're just going to allow more of it
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: to happen. At least treat it the same way we
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: treat male evil, which nobody has a problem with, right?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like there aren't evil men
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: out there. That's easy. But female evil seems really difficult.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: It's like everyone sees their mother or a girlfriend or something. So, yeah. Anyway,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: thank you for the super chats and stuff. We're going
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: to move on to the next story.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: This one's tough, but we're going to cover it. All right. So,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: a Frankfurt, Illinois mother named Corey Walsh, age 38 or 40,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: we don't know exactly, but in her late 30s, and
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: a mother of four has been charged with three counts
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: of first-degree murder in the death of her two-year-old son,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Barrett Walsh. On Tuesday, September 1st, so this is the
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: day before the last story happened, police responded to a
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: report of an injured toddler at a home on the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: 22700 block of Brookstone Court and found a neighbor performing
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: CPR on the child who had been discovered in the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: basement with a ligature around his neck. The boy was
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: pronounced dead later that day. A preliminary autopsy indicated he
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: died from asphyxia due to ligature compression of the neck.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Prosecutors allege Walsh told officers she killed him because he
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: was the, quote, devil, end quote, and the, quote, antichrist,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: end quote, and she later described the method while hospitalized.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: She was also found attempting to harm herself with a
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: knife in a bathtub. Oh, not successful, though. Interesting. Court
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: documents note that Walsh's three other children, including an infant
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: present in the home and two school-age siblings who returned
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: around the time of the discovery, were unharmed, and her
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: husband was out of state at the time but returned
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: that day. Prosecutors are seeking to deny... pre-trial release, arguing
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: she poses a threat to her husband and remaining children.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Witnesses told investigators that Walsh had recently become very invested
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial in Massachusetts and had
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: discussed the case with friends via text roughly three and
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: a half hours before the killing. Authorities have not claimed
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: a direct causal link. I mean, it's kind of hard
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: to prove that. Walsh's attorney stated she was experiencing a
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: psychotic episode at the time. Of course, that's her defense, so.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I can only reiterate what I iterated a couple of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. If you think these are just copycat cases,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: you haven't been paying attention. Welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Women kill children all the time. I would wager that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: somewhere in the world in any given hour there is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: a woman killing her children. Obviously if you reduce that
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: to child... And you include abortions... As an instance of...
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: A woman killing a child... It's not even disputable... I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: think it's closer to... One every minute... Somewhere in the world...
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah there's... Also the women who give no fucks...
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: About the nine month rule... You could be eight years old...
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Fuck you... You belong to me... I brought you into
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: this world... And I can take you out... It's an
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: idiom with which many of us are familiar. Women are
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: officially in charge of life. They get all the glory
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: for the spoils of reproduction. Men are just these primates
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: who just dick around playing with sticks and whatnot. Men
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: have no place whatsoever in the reproduction and preservation of life.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: They're just these robot slaves who happen to exist. Pass
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: me another mojito, Christina! Isn't it great how this manor
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: just falls from the heavens? Sorry, I lost myself again.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, these aren't just copycats of Lindsay Clancy.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: It's just women doing whatever the hell they feel like doing.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Up to and including murdering children. Lindsay Clancy is just
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: one of many cases. The only mystery is why this
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: case is getting so much attention. And honestly, I think
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: it's best explained by chaos theory. In an incalculable soup
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: of turbulence, eventually something will explode. And I think this
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: is the explosion that will take us from woke 1.0
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: to woke 2.0. You thought that shit was bad back
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: in 2016? Now women are literally in charge of life
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: and death. If you are not a woman, or at
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: least not passing as an adult female human, then your
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: life means nothing and your death means nothing. Here's a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: plus one mace. Best of luck. Terribly sorry. But we
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: have to confiscate your plus one mace. Here, have a
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: potion of diversity. Best of luck.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: Years ago, I started a blog that I titled Breaking
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: the Glasses. The idiom or whatever was essentially, I am
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: breaking your rose-colored glasses when it comes to women. We
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: have a tendency as a society to take terrible things
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: that women do and suggest that they must be rare.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: And take maybe hinky things that women do and suggest
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: that maybe they're not so bad because a woman did
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: it and maybe take things that are a little sus
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: and suggest that they're not that suspicious because you know
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: women are harmless and therefore the action isn't really going
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: to lead to anything I want to point out to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: you that if you look up on any search engine,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: mother puts baby in oven. You will not find only
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: one case. You will find a couple of cases in 2024.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: You'll find a couple of microwave cases. If you continue searching,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: you'll find a case of a grandmother that put her
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: grandchild in the oven. This is a hot oven, by
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: the way, not just put the baby in the oven
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: by accident and the baby is just in the oven
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: and it's not turned on. These are all homicides. These
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: are all terrible, torturous deaths that women did to their children.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: And in most of those cases, there was no plea
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: of psychosis. The one that happened here in Dayton. The
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: woman was drunk. She tried to blame the neighbor kid
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: who wasn't even at their house that day. Fortunately, he
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: was not subjected to any kind of suspicion. But this
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: is the thing. People might not be surprised that to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: hear that occasionally fathers do horrible things like this. But
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: people are always surprised to hear that occasionally mothers do
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: horrible things like this. Well, it's not always occasionally. That
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: is overt, deliberate, I want to torture my baby to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: death murder. But then there are other cases where mothers
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: do things like giving their children small amounts of poison
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: for years to keep them in a state of perpetual
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: illness that doctors can't figure out. And they can't seem
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: to get better from it. And everybody has sympathy that
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: the mother is dealing with all of this hardship and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: all of these doctor appointments and getting her kid from
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: school in the middle of the day because her kid
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: is sick after lunch. But nobody suspects the mother because...
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: She's just putting tiny amounts of poison in her kid's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: food or other things that the child has to ingest.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Munchausen's by proxy is an almost exclusively female mental disorder.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: And it causes the individual to do that to the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: person under their care, their child, their live-in elderly parent,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: a sibling that is sick for life, a husband, anybody
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: that they can use to get attention. And yeah, a
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: woman sees that another woman has become the center of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: attention in not just the country where she lives, but
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: In foreign countries as well. All over social media. She copycats.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: And she's going to make the same claims. And she's
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: going to think that she's going to get away with it.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: Until people start. Breaking those rose colored glasses. And recognizing. That.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Women don't have to be out of their minds. To
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: do evil things. Any more than men do. That women
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: don't have to be. Uh. Victims of something. To do
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: terrible things. That they can just. Be evil. And just
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: be dangerous.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: And uh.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Should just be taken very seriously the same way that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: a man would when they start behaving in ways that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: seem kind of scary. Until that changes, we're going to
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: see a lot more cases like this. I wish I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: could say differently. But even women being punished for stuff
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: like this isn't going to stop it. So until society
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: steps up, and actually starts making it possible to prevent
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: instead of punishing after the fact I'd hate to be
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: a kid right now and Maybe we need to bring
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: back men's ability, father's ability, to section their wives. Husband's
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: abilities to section their wives if they start acting crazy
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: in a way that seems dangerous to the children.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Yep. All right. We got a Super Chow for $ 5
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: by Honey Fying the Badgers. Thank you. They say, a
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: small token to counter demonetization. Do you think these murder
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: mothers are increasing since Clancy or have the rates of
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: these murders been roughly constant over time? I think these
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: have been roughly constant, but the spread of these news
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: reports have increased. That's entirely plausible. Again, like I said earlier,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: most of these things happen and it's not news. I mean,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: it's news in that particular area, like it's local news
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: and it's like a big thing, but People are murdered. Unfortunately,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: the reality is that there's nothing new under the sun.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: People are murdered every day. People are mugged. Children are abused.
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  Speaker 1: Children are killed. People suffer sexual assault, sexual crimes. All
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  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff always happens everywhere in the world all
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  Speaker 1: the time. But it's about where we put our attention
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  Speaker 1: and how much energy we put into things that makes
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: things appear to be more rampant or whatever than normal. Although,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I do think that normalizing... this kind of excuse making
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: for what Lindsay Clancy has done does make it, I
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  Speaker 1: think it can affect some women's behavior. And of course, again,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: like Hannah said, I would hate to be a child today. Like,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know what my mother is going through. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just, it's scary. So Xerius gave
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  Speaker 1: us a super chat for five and said, July 2026
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: story out of New South Wales, Australia. 32-year-old mother allegedly
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: confessed to police that she consumed parts of her four-year-old son. Oh,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: my God. Wow. That's nuts. Thank you for that. I'm
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: not sleeping tonight. Okay. Well, appreciate the super chats and
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: super chows. I didn't know about that story, but I
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: got one more, and I'm not going to be able
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: to fit anything else in, so we're going to have
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: to move on to the next one. This one's not
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: much better anyways, though, so let us know what you
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: guys think about that one in the comments. It's time
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  Speaker 1: for us to move on. All right, Shannon Galligan, pictured here,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: 28-year-old woman, was sentenced at Norwich Crown Court after launching
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: a brutal domestic violence attack on her ex-boyfriend, Ashley Compton,
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  Speaker 1: shortly before Christmas of 2024. The pair had recently broken up,
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  Speaker 1: and Compton visited her at her shared accommodation in Norwich.
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  Speaker 1: Galligan became angry, struck him on the back of the
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  Speaker 1: head with a saucepan, grabbed him by the throat, stabbed
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  Speaker 1: him in the arm with a knife and shoved the
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  Speaker 1: knife into a door. She then forced him to jump
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: from a ground floor living room window to escape. The
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  Speaker 1: fall left him with a fractured vertebra and multiple bruises.
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  Speaker 1: Galligan was originally charged with wounding with intent, but prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: accepted her guilty plea to unlawful wounding.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: She also admitted intentional strangulation, assault occasioning actual bodily harm,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: and criminal damage. Her defense noted she suffered from ADHD
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  Speaker 1: and was ashamed and appalled by her actions. Okay. Judge
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  Speaker 1: Bate imposed a two-year prison sentence suspended for 18 months,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: plus 180 hours of unpaid work, a rehabilitation activity requirement
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  Speaker 1: of up to 20 days, and a four-year restraining order
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: barring contact with the victim. Police praise Compton for coming forward.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: What is this world? Okay. Go ahead. I know Hannah
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  Speaker 1: put this story through, so I.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Mike wants to say anything
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  Speaker 3: before I do.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if Mike is there.
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  Speaker 2: No, I am here. Okay. I am listening.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm raging, but I will let you.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: You want me to talk first? All right, let's... this
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: is another one where, um, I actually, the first thing
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: that I noticed about this, you know, was that he,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: he jumped from, uh, from just a ground floor window and,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: and ended up with a fractured vertebra and, and multiple bruises.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm, I was thinking immediately about that vexatious litigant
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: case again, because the, um, The second husband of the
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: vexatious litigant, the guy that was the reason that my
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: friend got protective custody of his kid, she ended up
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: beating on him too. And he ended up in jail
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: for 18 months one time because he was afraid to
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: jump out of a second story window to get out
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: of a room where she was assaulting him. throwing objects
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: at him, heavy objects at him, and generally trying to
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: injure him. And on the way out of that room,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: his shoulder brushed up against her shoulder. He didn't cause
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: her any injury. He didn't put her into the wall
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. He didn't bruise her or cause
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: her any pain, but their shoulders touched. As he fled
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: the room to get away from her abuse. And that
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: was too rough for the judge. He was being too
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: rough with her when he shouldered past her to get
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: away while she was throwing things at him. And trying
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: actively to injure him. And he should have been courageous enough,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: according to the judge, to just go out that damn window.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: Because a second story fall isn't going to injure you
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  Speaker 3: that badly. Well, apparently it does, doesn't it? Not that
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: I feel horribly sorry for the guy. He got punished
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: for the wrong thing, but he didn't get punished for
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: beating the child that he beat up that caused the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: whole case to start. But my point is, when the
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  Speaker 3: abuse is two-way, like in their case, or when it's one-way,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: like in this case, all too often, The system is
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: completely without compassion for the male victim. A woman doesn't
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: have to be bigger and stronger than a man to
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: hurt him. All she has to do is make him
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: afraid to confront her. Because if he does, he'll go
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: to jail. All she has to do is grab a weapon.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: He's not allowed to defend himself. It's too rough if
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: he rabbit punches her in the jaw. I have a
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: friend in northern Ohio that was convicted of assault for
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: stopping a woman's second attempt to stab him in the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: throat with a sharp object because he rabbit punched her
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: in the jaw in the process. And that was unnecessary roughness.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: Excessive force to stop the woman that was trying to
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: kill him I don't know necessarily what was going through
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: this guy's head when he was being assaulted by this woman.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know how scared he might have been. I
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: would have been terrified. I don't know if he was
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: thinking about the legal repercussions of his situation or if
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: he was just trying to avoid further injury after her
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: huge degree of violence. I don't know any of that.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: But I do know that if he had hit her
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: back even once, the story we would be reading would
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: be that this guy was the abuser. It wouldn't matter
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: how injured he got. It wouldn't matter what she did
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: to him first. It would be that he was jailed.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: for abuse. Everything that she did, she would be able
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: to say, oh, it was preemptive self-defense. Feminists have been
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: saying that for years. But her excuse, on top of
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: everything else, her excuse has to be the absolute dumbest
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: fucking excuse that I have ever heard for violence.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: ADHD?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: ADHD? I'm sorry, but no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: not sorry at all.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: I have several friends with ADHD. They are the most
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: nonviolent people that I know. Like they would be capable
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: of defending themselves if they had to. They would be
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: capable of defending their families if they had to. But
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: they don't pick fights with people. They're too busy trying
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: to enjoy everything going on around them all at once.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: ADHD doesn't cause people to behave like this. Being an
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: asshole does. Having a bad attitude does. Having bad character does.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe being psychotic makes it hard to stop yourself if
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: you have these kinds of impulses. ADHD doesn't. It's bullshit.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: Intentional strangulation, assault, occasioning bodily harm, criminal damage. This woman
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: had an absolute meltdown. This was rage. This was not
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing, and I'm
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: hurting someone. This wasn't, I can't keep track of what's
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: going on, and oh gosh, how did that happen? This
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: was seething rage and deliberate violence. And she expects to
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: get away with it probably because, look, I have ADHD,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: aren't I cute? No, you're not. Fuck you, go to jail.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately, she won't. And unless she doesn't do the
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: unpaid work and the rehab activity, then she might. But
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: God help us if the courts and the police and
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: the rest of the system don't start doing better about
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: protecting men who are targets of abusive women. You see
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: a theme here? Woman after woman in this show that
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: we've talked about just didn't see fit to control their tempers.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: They didn't think they had to because they were female.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: That has to change. That absolutely has to change. That's
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: all I got.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Anybody else? Mike, did you want to say anything? I'm
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: going to... Okay. All right. Well, let's see what you
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: guys are saying here. I got a couple more super chows. So,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Hunnifying2 gives us five and says, to add to the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: previous comment, I asked an AI to check stats of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: murder mothers by decade. The numbers are roughly constant based
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: on FBI stats. But I have not yet verified the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: data myself yet.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: FBI stats will be pretty accurate on this because they'll
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: be based on convictions. And it's kind of hard to
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: hide what you did when you kill a kid.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There you go. Thank you for that. And then
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: OIC gives us $ 2 rumble and says, sorry, it was
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: my PP depresso autism, HD PMS.
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  Speaker 3: High definition.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Don't forget H a 10 80 P four K.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: Um, yes.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Or AK. Are we done? Yeah. So surround sound.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: Um, high definition PMS beat BPD.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah. Don't forget that.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: Is that what, what makes you into a high tone?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: Bitch.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Well that's enough dark shit for one day so let's
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: get into the patron show and we're going to look
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: at this article on medium or blog or whatever the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: hell it is called I read five books by women
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: who hate men and they all made the same point
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: so we're going to figure out despite everything that we've
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: gone through do women really hate men or is that
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: just like men's imagination I don't know we're going to
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: find out so join us in the patron show for
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: that And let me just check and see if I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: missed anything. Nope, looks like we're good. So again, in
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• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I want to thank Mike and Hannah for joining me
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: on the show. And I want to thank you guys
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: most of all for joining us. This was a longer
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: than normal sausage, but there was an extra story, so...
• 1:43:04
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