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#1718 Hughesy - Dave Hughes · The You Project

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Speaker 1: Good, our team, Welcome to another installment of the You Project. Tiffany,
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Speaker 1: Are you all right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, harps, I am very good, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: What's going on over there at fucking cook Central?
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Speaker 2: Some same old just scooting around in the mood boot.
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Speaker 2: For the most part, I get to take it off
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Speaker 2: and punch things a little bit now, which is great.
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Speaker 1: What's the typical pain barometer? Because it was a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it was about fifteen out of ten
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Speaker 1: and you're crying like a four year old? What are
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Speaker 1: the tears diminished somewhat? Are you okay? What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just occasionally rolling down one cheek frustration, but
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Speaker 2: just a.
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Speaker 1: Pathetic tear, just dribbling down one cheek. Well, you're a
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Speaker 1: gangster and so we wish you were speedy recovery. So
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Speaker 1: you secured today's guest. You said he wasn't that great,
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Speaker 1: but he was available. You didn't say anything like that,
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Speaker 1: you said he's fucking awesome. You know, when you're getting
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Speaker 1: someone on the show, you go and do a bit
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Speaker 1: of research, and I'm like, well, what research do I
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Speaker 1: need to do? Because I've loved him and watched him
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Speaker 1: from Afar forever It's not that I know everything, but
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Speaker 1: I feel like with some people, like we had Tracy
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Speaker 1: bartramon yesterday or the day before, who goes way back,
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Speaker 1: and most people love Tracy and know of Tracy and Hughesy.
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Speaker 1: I feel you can probably at the moment times that
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Speaker 1: by ten. But anyway, for our overseas listeners, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to say this. Our Australian listeners know Hughesy, but our
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Speaker 1: overseas listeners, of which is about twenty percent of our audience.
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Speaker 1: So Hughesy is he's an icon in Australia. He won't
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Speaker 1: say that, but I will because he's far too humble
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Speaker 1: and self deprecating. But he's a comedian. He's done a
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Speaker 1: little bit of acting. It was fucking horrible. I'll give
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Speaker 1: you the tip. He's a radio star, he's a TV
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Speaker 1: star as a host. He's a dad. He's a bogan
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Speaker 1: and we love all of that shit. And if you
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Speaker 1: don't know what a bogan is, a bogan is kind
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Speaker 1: of He's not really a bogan, but he's a bit
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Speaker 1: Boganesque like myself. I grew up in the bush. He
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Speaker 1: grew up in the bush. Tiff grew up in Tasmania.
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Speaker 1: That's the bush. So there's a little bit of that
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Speaker 1: about all three of us. Hussey, thanks for coming on
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Speaker 1: to you.
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Speaker 3: Projectif it's great to be here, and yeah, I appreciate
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Speaker 3: the intro, and note I will accept the icon status.
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Speaker 4: Mate, I'm not that humble, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I argue with you. David William Hughes ak
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Speaker 1: a magic hair, he told us before Stiff. Can you
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Speaker 1: get a good screenshot of his hair at some stage
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Speaker 1: through the thing, because we need that for the promo.
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Speaker 1: He's telling us how awesome his hair was.
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Speaker 3: I'm only saying that because I spent many years I
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Speaker 3: look back on photos of me with really short hair
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Speaker 3: thinking why aren't I, you know, making the most of
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Speaker 3: a natural assets. Like some people, and a lot of
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Speaker 3: men lose their hair young, or they lose their hair
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Speaker 3: when they're thirty or forty or fifty. I just turned
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Speaker 3: fifty and it's as growing, as strong, and as lustrous
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Speaker 3: as ever, and I'm going to make the most of it.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's nothing if not fucking vibrant and prolific. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how sexy it is or how styled it is,
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Speaker 1: but let's just go with there's a lot of it, mate,
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Speaker 1: so good for you. But I know I don't look
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Speaker 1: like it. But my hair goes. My hair's like yours,
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Speaker 1: except that grows in thirty seven directions. So people think
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Speaker 1: I've been bored for twenty years. I'm not baled. My
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Speaker 1: old man's eighty one. He's got hair like a fucking yetty,
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Speaker 1: and my hair grows like crazy. But it's just out
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Speaker 1: of control. But I think with a little bit of
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Speaker 1: product shocking.
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Speaker 3: I'm actually shocked by that me like everyone else would assume.
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Speaker 4: That you're ball, I'm not.
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Speaker 3: Well, give it a go, let it hang out, Let's
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Speaker 3: see a new you. It's you know, let's change it up.
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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you change it up. You don't have to
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Speaker 3: do the same thing every day.
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Speaker 1: I'm been coached by Dave Hughes. I feel kind of privileged.
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Speaker 1: Is he going to send me a bill?
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Speaker 3: Ah?
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Speaker 1: Dear? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: It's funny though, how we get into I don't know this,
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Speaker 1: this groove where I've been shaved my head since I
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Speaker 1: used to stand on nightclub doors one hundred years ago.
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Speaker 1: Hughesy and get punched in the face for ten dollars
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Speaker 1: an hour, right, and so it's been a but it's
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Speaker 1: just been a standard. I reckon. I've had twenty pairs
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Speaker 1: of clippers, and probably every Monday fortnight I clip in
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Speaker 1: my hair. I put on a one or sometimes no
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Speaker 1: blade at all, and it just goes. I should have
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Speaker 1: probably been in the military because I'm built for it,
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Speaker 1: but I've let it grow out. If have you ever
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Speaker 1: seen it long.
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Speaker 2: I've seen it with a little bit of hair. I
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Speaker 2: mean you had a little bit of hair when you
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Speaker 2: yeah that photo with your mom.
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Speaker 1: I put up this photo. This is terrible, fucking I
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Speaker 1: was going to say it's terrible radio. We're not on
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Speaker 1: the radio. But just just for Hughes's benefit, can you
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Speaker 1: see that or hang on? Let me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got like about three milre. Yeah that's not true.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 2: Looks HAPs you look like you get a pan.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It just goes everywhere. And I have to be thinking.
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Speaker 3: You just put up a photo of you looking like
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Speaker 3: Krusty the Clown. Maybe half an inch there.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like.
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Speaker 1: Toughing Hell City on Brad Pitt. If you have to marry,
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Speaker 1: you're jo.
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Speaker 4: After the town side Joe Bio. I'm talking about the hair.
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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the face.
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Speaker 1: You're a funny man. So I don't want to ask
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Speaker 1: you all the boring shit, but give us a little
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Speaker 1: bit about Dave Hugh's the six year old, eight year old,
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Speaker 1: ten year old? Where'd you grow up? What was it like?
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Speaker 1: You don't have to give us the cliche stuff. I
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Speaker 1: feel like someone like you who's been interviewed a thousand times,
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Speaker 1: I want to not have that conversation. But also most
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Speaker 1: of our audience won't know the answer to these questions.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, fair enough, let's go where'd you grow up?
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Speaker 1: What was it like? What were you good at? What
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Speaker 1: did you hate? Were you an athlete?
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Speaker 3: Grow up in a country town place called Warnable. At
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Speaker 3: a time, probably twenty thousand people lived in the town.
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Speaker 3: One of the youngest of four children.
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Speaker 4: My old is.
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Speaker 3: My twin sisters are at three and a half years
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Speaker 3: older than me. My brother is a year and a
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Speaker 3: half older than me.
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Speaker 4: So in a.
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Speaker 3: Commission house, look a humble abode. Dad was a factory worker,
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Speaker 3: mom was a nurse. And yeah, so you know, I
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Speaker 3: dreamed of having Nike, You know the cliche. I dreamed
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Speaker 3: of having added ass and Nike at Runners and didn't
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Speaker 3: have them.
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Speaker 4: You know, I was.
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Speaker 3: You know, my kids now just lose their nights and
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Speaker 3: don't give a shit, especially my son.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I went to a well Catholics, you know
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Speaker 3: back when people went to church, and my nana was
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Speaker 3: a full on Catholic, so she thought I was going
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Speaker 3: to be a priest. I mean she was wrong. But
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Speaker 3: so I went to Catholic primary school. You know, I
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Speaker 3: did all that stuff, you know, church every Sunday. Went
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Speaker 3: to a CBC Catholic in secondary school. Basically because I
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Speaker 3: was I was scared of girls, to be honest, so
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Speaker 3: I wanted to stay with boys. Every time I saw
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Speaker 3: a group of girls. If I was walking down the
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Speaker 3: street and I saw a group of girls laughing, I
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Speaker 3: think they were laughing at me.
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Speaker 4: I was so.
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Speaker 3: And I didn't like being laughed at back then. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: but I did dream of being an athlete. That was
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Speaker 3: a big thing for me. I want to be an athlete,
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Speaker 3: I you know that every night, dreaming about playing Test
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Speaker 3: cricket or winning Wimbledon, or you know, winning AFL Grand
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Speaker 3: Finals and footy or you know, just sports, sports, sport.
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Speaker 3: I remember Maradonna died the other day. Obviously a legend,
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Speaker 3: and I clearly remember the nineteen eighty six World Cup
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Speaker 3: where Maradonna absolutely lit it up in Mexico and me
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Speaker 3: and my cousin just wanted to be Maradonna as fifteen olds.
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Speaker 4: I was just sport obsessed as a young person.
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Speaker 1: What was the thing that what was the one thing
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Speaker 1: that you were good at? I mean you might have
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Speaker 1: been good at, but was the thing you were best
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Speaker 1: at if you were ever going to make it at anything?
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Speaker 1: What might it have been?
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Speaker 4: It might have been Aussie rules. Yeah, so I was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a good country footballer and you know
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Speaker 3: I had I remember one guy telling me I could
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Speaker 3: make the big league.
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Speaker 4: You know, there was one guy who said it, but
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Speaker 4: it was nothing for me.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I knew that dream was over at the
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Speaker 3: age of twenty four, to be honest, when I was
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Speaker 3: jogging around as suburban ground in Melbourne, playing reserves football
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Speaker 3: in the Suburban League, and you know what, the captain
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Speaker 3: of the club jogged a lat with me. I think
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Speaker 3: I was twenty four at the time and had terrible
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Speaker 3: hamstring problems at the year because I was eating too
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Speaker 3: many burgers. Captain of the club jogged a lat with
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Speaker 3: me and said I reckon you should stick to comedy,
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Speaker 3: and you know, and that was the inspiration I needed
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Speaker 3: to give up my AFL dream.
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Speaker 1: Well, you probably need to thank that guy because he
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Speaker 1: probably set you on a trajectory that has served you well.
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Speaker 4: He did. And I was doing comedy at the time.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, I'd done a gig at at the local it
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Speaker 3: was Bentley Football Club actually a suburban Melbourne, and I
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Speaker 3: did a gig for the players and the family and
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Speaker 3: friends during the year and it had gone well, so
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Speaker 3: and I was doing some I was getting paid a
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Speaker 3: bit doing stand up at that time, so but you know,
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Speaker 3: being getting injured and footy on Saturday was probably not
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Speaker 3: good for trying to get on stage on a day nine.
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Speaker 3: I've had one injury story involving the adrenaline of being
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Speaker 3: on stage. This was a sund I'd played a game
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Speaker 3: I think on a Sunday and injured my shoulder during
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Speaker 3: the day so much so that my shoulder was frozen
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Speaker 3: stiff and couldn't I could not move it at all,
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Speaker 3: couldn't move, couldn't lift my arm above sort of horizontal basically.
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Speaker 3: So I went on stage that night and I said, guys,
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Speaker 3: I played footy today and I have injured myself so badly.
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Speaker 3: Look how far I can lift my arm. And I
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Speaker 3: went to lift my arm and went right above my head.
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Speaker 3: Adrenaline of being on stage at that point made you,
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Speaker 3: I realize how much adrenaline you have when you're on stage.
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Speaker 3: It was just the injury had gone away. As soon
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Speaker 3: as I got off stage, my arm was frozen again.
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Speaker 4: That was interesting.
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Speaker 1: I fucked my back so badly. I've got a history
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Speaker 1: of lower back injuries. But touch wood, he says, he
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Speaker 1: touched the table. It's all right at the moment. But
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Speaker 1: I've had a bunch of you know, injections, underscan and
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Speaker 1: all that kind of shit. I haven't had surgery, which
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Speaker 1: is good. But I had to go to Perth and
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Speaker 1: do two gigs on a Friday night and a Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: Workshops quite big as in, you know, probably about a
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Speaker 1: thousand people. So yeah, and it's not like somebody else.
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Speaker 1: There's three other presenters. It's like it's a Craig Harper
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Speaker 1: workshop and everyone booked in for that workshop and we
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Speaker 1: can't refund it. And I fucked my back horrendously the
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Speaker 1: day before. So I had to fly out on a
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Speaker 1: Friday and speak Friday night Speak Saturday night. Fuck my back,
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't like I could literally it took me
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to get out of bed, and I was
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Speaker 1: doing the tiff Cook tears. There was just there was
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Speaker 1: just a fuck and I wasn't overtly crying, but there
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Speaker 1: were just tears coming out of my eyes like real
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Speaker 1: and it took me. So I had to go, and
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Speaker 1: I was just in agony the whole way, And yeah,
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Speaker 1: I had to do the same. Well, I didn't have
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Speaker 1: that experience, but I had to. Literally I couldn't sit
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Speaker 1: because once I sat, I couldn't get up, and I
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Speaker 1: couldn't stand because the pain was too much. So they
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Speaker 1: just gave me a stool and I kind of lent
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Speaker 1: like a pissed bloke at a bar on a stool
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Speaker 1: for three hours. But it's amazing. Once you get in
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Speaker 1: that place, I'll flow and you're present and you're in
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Speaker 1: the moment, and there's energy in the room and there's
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Speaker 1: hundreds of people. I wasn't pain free, but I managed
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Speaker 1: to get through it. And then literally one minute past
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Speaker 1: ten or whenever it was that I finished. There's just
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Speaker 1: this overwhelm of agony and the same thing happened the
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Speaker 1: next day, and I was fucked for about two weeks.
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Speaker 1: And I look back a week or two later, when
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Speaker 1: I was still in pain, I gotta I go. I
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Speaker 1: do not know how on earth I got up to
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Speaker 1: do that, but I think sometimes when you don't have
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Speaker 1: an option, you know, I feel like you don't have
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Speaker 1: an option, you go, well, fuck, I can't not go,
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Speaker 1: So I just need to figure it out. I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you about.
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Speaker 3: It, Steven, were great to say being on stage keeps
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Speaker 3: me in the moment more than anything. So yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: that's one of the best things that I'm what I've
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Speaker 3: missed this year with not being having much stage strung
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Speaker 3: because of COVID.
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Speaker 4: It's just that missing that being in the.
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Speaker 3: Moment where you you're not you're just right there.
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Speaker 1: I love what's your I love that. I love that that.
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Speaker 1: It's like when so I do a fair bit of
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Speaker 1: work with people who want to be speakers, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you talk to people a lot who want to
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Speaker 1: be comics, right and by the way, I think being
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Speaker 1: a corporate speaker or doing what I do is twenty
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Speaker 1: times easier than what you do. I fucking love comedy
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Speaker 1: and if I had more balls, I would have done it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm essentially a coward. If you said to me, no, really,
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Speaker 1: if you said to me, Craig, go and talk to
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Speaker 1: a thousand people on changing their life and getting their
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Speaker 1: shit together. My overwhelming emotion is excitement. But if they
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Speaker 1: said there's ten people out there, you've got to go
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Speaker 1: and make them laugh for eight minutes, I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. There's there's some anxiety. But if
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Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing and I happen to be interesting
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Speaker 1: or funny or telling stories or doing my three hour whatever,
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Speaker 1: and people laughing just as part of that, I'm good.
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Speaker 1: But if I'm I'm there for the sole reason to
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Speaker 1: walk out and be funny, I don't think I could
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Speaker 1: do it well.
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Speaker 4: On that topic.
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Speaker 3: I before I started comedy, I did like I would
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Speaker 3: like accept an award for footy, you know, and I'd
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Speaker 3: get on stage. You're not expected to be funny. So
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Speaker 3: I was able to be funny, like because oh it's
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Speaker 3: like a it's a secondary thing, and you know I
13:26
Speaker 3: even but even you know, I do a speech at school.
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Speaker 3: I remember I did a religious education speech which slayed
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Speaker 3: the room and it was that I wasn't meant to
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Speaker 3: be funny, But even twenty first speeches, when you're sort
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Speaker 3: of meant to be funny, I could do well. But
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Speaker 3: the first time I walked on a stand up comedy
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Speaker 3: stage where the sole intention of the person who walks
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Speaker 3: on that stage is to make this group of strangers laugh,
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Speaker 3: I dissolved into a puddle of anxiety.
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Speaker 4: I was hopeless. It was the most.
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Speaker 3: Pressure I've ever It was like sixty people there a
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Speaker 3: little bar in Perth, and yeah, oh god, I was
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Speaker 3: just it was the worst moment of my life because
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Speaker 3: I dreamed of doing it for a long time, you know,
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Speaker 3: as a kid at least. And I was twenty two
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Speaker 3: when that first gig, And yeah, the pressure of they
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Speaker 3: expect you to be funny. You said to them, you're
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Speaker 3: funny by getting on this stage, and you feel like
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Speaker 3: you're wasting all these people's time.
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Speaker 4: It was horrible.
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Speaker 3: There was no backstage either, so I had to walk
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Speaker 3: through the crowd. And my gig had been about how
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Speaker 3: I got teased at school, and someone as I'm walking
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Speaker 3: through the crowd after this silent you know gig I'd done,
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Speaker 3: just said you deserve to be teased.
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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. What was your what was your what was
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Speaker 1: the one joke that just fucking died or all dime?
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Speaker 1: It was just a collective death.
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Speaker 3: It's just a collective and it's like and it's when,
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Speaker 3: especially early on in a stand up comedy career, every
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Speaker 3: night for me, possibly especially because the other comedians say,
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Speaker 3: you're crazy up there, because I never do the same
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Speaker 3: joke twice, and so I'd get up and do different
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Speaker 3: stories every time I got up on stage, and the
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Speaker 3: older comedians would have shaking their head at me, because
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Speaker 3: if the first one doesn't go well, you feel like
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Speaker 3: you're ruined. Like the crowd just make up their mind
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Speaker 3: and they you can't get them back because you don't have.
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Speaker 4: The skill to do it. So it was a real
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Speaker 4: lottery for me earlier on.
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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, there's this concept in sport
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Speaker 1: and high performance, and I would think in well not
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Speaker 1: I would think, I know also in public speaking, whether
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Speaker 1: or not that's to motivate, inspire, educate, or entertain, and
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Speaker 1: it's really about how well we can perform under pressure.
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Speaker 1: It's not how funny are you with your mates at
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Speaker 1: a bar or how funny are you with your family?
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Speaker 1: At dinner. But how funny can you be? How much
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Speaker 1: can you create connection and engagement in that situation which
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Speaker 1: is uncomfortable, which is unfamiliar, which is with a bunch
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Speaker 1: of strangers who don't know you, and they don't give
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Speaker 1: a fuck if you're funny or if you crash and burn.
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Speaker 1: If you crash and burn, that's funny for them. If
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Speaker 1: you're funny. If you're funny, that's a bonus. But they
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Speaker 1: don't care if you're funny or not. And they don't
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Speaker 1: care if you go home and fucking don't sleep for
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Speaker 1: four days.
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Speaker 4: Now, you need their attitude in a way. You need
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Speaker 4: to not care. You need to go. You need to
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Speaker 4: get beyond it and go. I can deal with whatever
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Speaker 4: happens here, you know.
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Speaker 3: So in if they sense that you're desperate for their affection,
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Speaker 3: they just won't give it.
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Speaker 4: So it's like a part of you needs to be relaxed.
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Speaker 3: The most tense I get on stage, or the most
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Speaker 3: pressure I've felt in the last probably ten fifteen years,
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Speaker 3: is doing.
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Speaker 4: The opening of the Logans, which I've done. I did
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Speaker 4: four years in a row.
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Speaker 3: So you're walking on stage to the you know it's broadcast,
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Speaker 3: it's live on TV. People love getting on the internet
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Speaker 3: and just slaughtering whoever's on stage because it's a sport
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Speaker 3: to hand shot on the Logans. If you're from overseas,
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Speaker 3: it's Australia is Television Awards Night. And so to walk
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Speaker 3: on that stage and you know that, you know your
17:07
Speaker 3: peers in the audience are half and the want you
17:08
Speaker 3: to fail at least probably because they don't want to.
17:12
Speaker 3: They don't want to have to laugh at someone else
17:13
Speaker 3: because they want to be laughed at themselves. And so yeah,
17:17
Speaker 3: that's the most pressure I've felt in a long time.
17:20
Speaker 4: And if you've ever been.
17:21
Speaker 3: To the Logans Australis Awards Night, the crowd do not
17:24
Speaker 3: shut up before the broadcast starts.
17:26
Speaker 4: There's just it's a dinner and show.
17:29
Speaker 3: There's a thousand or fifteen hundred people just talking really loudly.
17:34
Speaker 4: The warm up guy they don't even listen to him.
17:37
Speaker 3: He can hardly be heard above the dinner of people
17:41
Speaker 3: just clattering, eating and bloody yelling at each other. And
17:45
Speaker 3: so to walk on that stage, which I've done a
17:47
Speaker 3: number of times and succeed in that stage, has been
17:51
Speaker 3: a very satisfying thing for me to do. To get
17:54
Speaker 3: that crowd silent and listening and laughing.
17:58
Speaker 4: Is yeah, that's.
18:01
Speaker 3: Pressure that I've handled through years of doing every gig,
18:07
Speaker 3: getting on stage at tiny pubs, getting on stage at
18:10
Speaker 3: big theaters, just taking every opportunity.
18:12
Speaker 4: And yeah, and then doing the work.
18:15
Speaker 3: If you've done the work, and I imagine this is
18:18
Speaker 3: in all fields. If you've done the work, you can
18:22
Speaker 3: handle the moment. If you haven't done the work, well
18:24
Speaker 3: good luck. But if you've done the work, you've got
18:26
Speaker 3: yourself a chance.
18:27
Speaker 1: I feel like for you that your natural habitat is spontaneous, unscripted,
18:33
Speaker 1: organic raw. Well, I can't see you loving the old
18:39
Speaker 1: AUTOQ or.
18:41
Speaker 4: No, I'm not ANOQ guy at all. I do not.
18:44
Speaker 3: I did a TV show for the Project, which is
18:46
Speaker 3: on Channel ten or one of these train networks, and
18:49
Speaker 3: I was started that show and I was there for
18:51
Speaker 3: five years and I never used THEOQ.
18:53
Speaker 4: It just did not work for me.
18:55
Speaker 3: So yeah, but I am a guy who knows routine,
19:00
Speaker 3: and so I do when you say you want to
19:02
Speaker 3: look unscripted when you're doing stand up comedy, but you
19:05
Speaker 3: know what you need the ammunition of stories. You know
19:08
Speaker 3: the work, And I would for doing that opening of
19:12
Speaker 3: the awards night. I would go to pubs, you know,
19:15
Speaker 3: and talk to backpackers who didn't even know the stars
19:19
Speaker 3: that I was talking about, the Australian TV stars. But
19:22
Speaker 3: I would fashion jokes that even they could laugh at.
19:26
Speaker 3: And so if these you know, backpackers pissed in a
19:28
Speaker 3: pub could get the essence of the joke, I knew
19:31
Speaker 3: that joke was bulletproof. And when I took it to
19:34
Speaker 3: the stage of people who knew who I was talking about,
19:37
Speaker 3: I knew that they would really work well.
19:39
Speaker 4: But it was that crafting of.
19:41
Speaker 3: Stuff in pubs and in small comedy clubs that allowed
19:47
Speaker 3: me for that sort of gig, to get it right.
19:50
Speaker 1: I'm like you in that I can't. I get this
19:54
Speaker 1: constant bit of feedback when I go and I'll do
19:57
Speaker 1: something for when you do a corporate gig in the
20:00
Speaker 1: space of personal or professional development, generally what happens is
20:03
Speaker 1: the speaker will turn up. They'll go, here's my USB,
20:08
Speaker 1: here's my presentation, here's my three videos I want you
20:11
Speaker 1: to play, here's the debt that I don't have anything.
20:14
Speaker 1: I just turn up and I write on a whiteboard
20:16
Speaker 1: and I talk, and they go, where are your notes
20:18
Speaker 1: or where's your this, or where's your timetable or whatever?
20:22
Speaker 1: Or where's your where's the where's your presentation? And I
20:26
Speaker 1: say it's in my head. And they they panic because
20:29
Speaker 1: they're so used to everything being very scripted and planned
20:34
Speaker 1: and choreographed. And I say, how can I pre plan
20:38
Speaker 1: a conversation with people I've never met? Right? And I
20:42
Speaker 1: know my shit right, so I know what I'm going
20:45
Speaker 1: to talk. I don't need to go and learn new
20:46
Speaker 1: stuff for today. This is what I talk about all
20:49
Speaker 1: the time.
20:50
Speaker 4: So I'm going to see it's inside you.
20:52
Speaker 3: So and you tell them stories that you believe in,
20:54
Speaker 3: so you don't need to read them off a piece
20:57
Speaker 3: of paper because there's they're your stories.
21:00
Speaker 1: But you can. You can read a room, right, You
21:02
Speaker 1: know if something's working or not working. You know if
21:04
Speaker 1: you're connecting or disconnecting. You know if people are engaged
21:07
Speaker 1: or not. But you can't when you go in with something.
21:10
Speaker 1: I think that's pre set, prescripted, predetermined for me. Anyway,
21:15
Speaker 1: it's the worst way to work because I feel like
21:17
Speaker 1: I'm unplugged from the humans, you know. I feel like
21:20
Speaker 1: I'm doing this choreograph thing that isn't me, and I
21:23
Speaker 1: feel like a fraud. And it doesn't always work, but
21:25
Speaker 1: it nearly always works if I just go in and
21:28
Speaker 1: I go, well, I'm going to talk about resilience. I'm
21:30
Speaker 1: going to talk about metacognition, which is thinking about thinking,
21:33
Speaker 1: and talk about a bit about physiology, and talk about beliefs,
21:36
Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about these eight things. Reset
21:38
Speaker 1: go and then I go. I walk in and I go,
21:40
Speaker 1: put up your hand. If you're an overthinker, and every
21:42
Speaker 1: hand goes up, and I've got instant engagement, put up
21:45
Speaker 1: your hand. Yeah, put up your hand. If you got
21:48
Speaker 1: in shape and then got fat, every hand goes you know.
21:52
Speaker 1: And so it's if I can get hands up and
21:55
Speaker 1: people laughing or nodding and I've got connection in the
21:57
Speaker 1: first thirty seconds, we're good. And then you just go
22:00
Speaker 1: from there.
22:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you've done the work. You're not
22:03
Speaker 3: a fraud. You've lived it. And so that's and they
22:07
Speaker 3: will sense that as well. So that's why you don't
22:09
Speaker 3: need the scripts, because you've got it all inside you.
22:12
Speaker 3: So yeah, but for me, and again, never a script,
22:15
Speaker 3: never read off on autoque ever. But yeah, but have
22:18
Speaker 3: the stories inside me and have them ready because I've
22:22
Speaker 3: lived them and I know them and I trust them.
22:26
Speaker 1: I did some stuff for a few years on the
22:28
Speaker 1: David Kimshell and Channel ten on the Morning show whatever
22:31
Speaker 1: it was called, and they're like, at the start, I
22:35
Speaker 1: got asked to go in and be interviewed about something.
22:37
Speaker 1: So I just went and did a gig and they
22:39
Speaker 1: then the executive producer asked me to go see her
22:42
Speaker 1: after the show. Anyway, so they said you want to
22:46
Speaker 1: come back next week? Because that was great. I went short,
22:48
Speaker 1: came back, and then the next week they went, do
22:51
Speaker 1: you want to be a regular? So anyway, I ended
22:53
Speaker 1: up being a regular for a few years. But what
22:55
Speaker 1: they wanted to do, they wanted to They wanted me
22:59
Speaker 1: to send all the questionestions that they wanted that I
23:01
Speaker 1: wanted asked about this topic, or they're like, do you
23:04
Speaker 1: want us to I go, I don't want any of that.
23:06
Speaker 1: I go, please don't do that. Let's just sit on
23:08
Speaker 1: the couch and have a conversation about like if we're
23:11
Speaker 1: talking about resilience, let's just talk. I go because if
23:15
Speaker 1: I have to remember what they're going to ask me,
23:17
Speaker 1: or if I have to kind of come up with
23:19
Speaker 1: some pre organized answer, it's I'm going to be terrible
23:22
Speaker 1: because I'm shit at that. But what I'm good at
23:25
Speaker 1: is just talking to humans about whatever. And so they
23:28
Speaker 1: were quite and I did a couple of outside broadcasts
23:31
Speaker 1: from a few places with people and stuff, and they
23:34
Speaker 1: wanted to be scripted and they wanted auto Q and
23:37
Speaker 1: all this, and I go, I can't, I can't. I'm
23:41
Speaker 1: just just let me do it once without it and
23:44
Speaker 1: then if I'm terrible, either get rid of me or
23:46
Speaker 1: I'll do you know, if I'm shit, get rid of me,
23:49
Speaker 1: or I'll do the AUTOQ. And they went, well, that
23:51
Speaker 1: was good. So yeah, but I had to fight to
23:54
Speaker 1: be so that I could just do my thing. Now,
23:57
Speaker 1: this is what I do all the time. It's just
23:59
Speaker 1: that there's a camera on it at the moment.
24:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and it's a look, yeah, I mean that's
24:04
Speaker 3: I hear you, and yeah, I'm with you on that.
24:07
Speaker 3: So and it can be frustrating being on TV when
24:09
Speaker 3: you do have producers wanting you to ask the exact
24:13
Speaker 3: questions that they're written or you know, like that's sort
24:15
Speaker 3: of yeah, it's a you don't want to be corralled.
24:19
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason I left the project, to
24:21
Speaker 3: be honest, is that sort of desire to have everything
24:24
Speaker 3: in a neat little box, and there's not enough room
24:27
Speaker 3: to spread your wings, I suppose.
24:29
Speaker 1: So I think that's why one of the reasons that
24:32
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that podcasts have proliferated. And of course,
24:37
Speaker 1: like any other product or service, there are good podcasts
24:40
Speaker 1: and shit ones and okay ones and Joe Rogan at
24:43
Speaker 1: the far end of the scale, but rogans or do
24:46
Speaker 1: you have a listener Rogan?
24:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:48
Speaker 1: So he's always talking about, as you would know, he's
24:51
Speaker 1: talking about comedy and writing and the skill and the
24:53
Speaker 1: craft and you know, the organic nature of this and that.
24:56
Speaker 1: But he also talks about the freedom that comes with
25:00
Speaker 1: you know, you and I don't need to go to
25:02
Speaker 1: a break. We don't need to do a station idea
25:04
Speaker 1: or a time check or a weather check, or we're
25:05
Speaker 1: not throwing to the news or you can and we
25:07
Speaker 1: can talk for thirty three minutes or fucking two hours
25:10
Speaker 1: and ten minutes, and we could talk about whatever we
25:12
Speaker 1: want and nobody's standing in front of you waving hands
25:16
Speaker 1: or going we've got to go to a break or
25:18
Speaker 1: fucking all that shit.
25:20
Speaker 3: Right, I went on to TV and say I don't
25:21
Speaker 3: want to get back of the project. But that was
25:23
Speaker 3: my real example of you know, you've got producers in
25:26
Speaker 3: your ear who are just spending half the time panicking.
25:29
Speaker 3: So you've got someone yelling at you and your I've
25:32
Speaker 3: done this, did I did this joke that the logos
25:35
Speaker 3: one night? I remember that it was a true story
25:36
Speaker 3: where I'm halfway through a sentence and I hear someone
25:38
Speaker 3: in my yell out stop speaking.
25:41
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's going to sound like I've had a
25:43
Speaker 4: stroke if I stopped speaking. Now.
25:44
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm literally halfway through a sentence. But I know,
25:48
Speaker 3: I think on the night my eyes just went crazy.
25:50
Speaker 4: You know, I just sort of shut down. People would
25:52
Speaker 4: have think I was I was, you know, had a
25:54
Speaker 4: medical condition.
25:56
Speaker 1: But only someone who's never been in front of a
25:58
Speaker 1: mic or camera would screen.
26:00
Speaker 4: That in you. But I understand they're panicking.
26:03
Speaker 3: Is I think they've got to go to an ad
26:05
Speaker 3: break and yeah, so but yeah, no, it's crazy.
26:08
Speaker 4: It can be crazy.
26:10
Speaker 1: So do you have a Rogan talks all the time
26:13
Speaker 1: about his the way that he writes and the way
26:16
Speaker 1: that he kind of develops material. Do you have a
26:19
Speaker 1: specific process or does sh it just.
26:23
Speaker 3: You write notes down in my you know, just in
26:27
Speaker 3: my phone or in the notes section of my phone,
26:29
Speaker 3: I just write stuff down that comes up.
26:31
Speaker 4: You know, I have a look now, just what am
26:33
Speaker 4: I reading? You know, I was on a plane yesterday.
26:37
Speaker 4: This is just so.
26:38
Speaker 3: I don't know this will ever become anything, but I
26:39
Speaker 3: was on a plane yesterday. I'm happily married and you know,
26:43
Speaker 3: not going to ever cheat. But there was an attractive
26:45
Speaker 3: flight attendant. You know, it's just but then she spent
26:48
Speaker 3: an expended period of time in the bathroom and just
26:50
Speaker 3: did all the romance. When it's goodness, she gone before
26:57
Speaker 3: she got on the plane.
26:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that about? What's that about? Gail? So when
27:04
Speaker 1: did you stop eating meat? Tell us a little bit
27:06
Speaker 1: about that, because I'm interested in that.
27:08
Speaker 3: I stopped eating meat. I became a pescatarian many years ago.
27:13
Speaker 3: I think, I, look, I've got a history of bow
27:15
Speaker 3: cancer in the family. So my mum's had bow cancer,
27:18
Speaker 3: and you know, there's quite a history of it. I
27:21
Speaker 3: think I read years ago that meat could be a
27:24
Speaker 3: factor in causing bow cancer. So I thought, well, I
27:28
Speaker 3: might stop eating meat, you know, and just because I
27:30
Speaker 3: don't want to get bow cancer. So that was many
27:32
Speaker 3: years ago, and didn't really miss it that much. It
27:35
Speaker 3: was a pescatarian ate, a lot of fish. I'd had
27:37
Speaker 3: fish with every meal, basically a lot of dairy about
27:40
Speaker 3: a year, just over a year ago. I mean, you
27:44
Speaker 3: might have watched it, and I'm not saying it's perfect,
27:46
Speaker 3: but the game changes doco that was on Netflix, and
27:50
Speaker 3: that made me think about how sore I was getting.
27:52
Speaker 3: I love exercising, I said, just turned fifty the other day,
27:55
Speaker 3: and I love running and I have for many years,
28:00
Speaker 3: but I get so sore the last fifteen years or
28:02
Speaker 3: I can you go for a run and then could
28:03
Speaker 3: hardly walk the next day, struggling to get down the
28:06
Speaker 3: stairs as when you wake up and on the dock.
28:09
Speaker 3: I was saying that, you know, you don't get a sore,
28:12
Speaker 3: and you know what, I'm going to give that a go,
28:14
Speaker 3: and I swear to god. I'm a year later and
28:17
Speaker 3: I do not get sought at all when I exercised crazy.
28:20
Speaker 4: I can.
28:22
Speaker 3: Around the tan the other day, which is just under
28:25
Speaker 3: four k run in fifteen forty seven and just don't get.
28:29
Speaker 4: Sought at all. It's not at all. It's unbelievable.
28:33
Speaker 1: That's pretty quick, dude, that's four minute k's that's averaging
28:36
Speaker 1: fifteen kilometers an hour. That's for your fifty year old self. Congratulations,
28:41
Speaker 1: I'm making fifty. That's awesome. So, without being too boring,
28:46
Speaker 1: but give us a and I know it probably varies,
28:48
Speaker 1: but give us a typical day of what goes in
28:52
Speaker 1: your god from when you get up to when you
28:53
Speaker 1: go to bed, or just just a version because people
28:56
Speaker 1: right now are going, I'm sore too.
28:59
Speaker 3: What is hughesy well, birchu musical this morning with coconut milk,
29:05
Speaker 3: you know, with fruits like you know, blueberries and strawberries and.
29:11
Speaker 4: Rock melon.
29:12
Speaker 3: That's we say breakfast, you know, lunch might have avocado
29:16
Speaker 3: on toast or something like that. And dinner try to
29:21
Speaker 3: get a salad in. And you know, I am you know,
29:24
Speaker 3: I'm probably eating too much of that sort of process
29:27
Speaker 3: and meat meat sort of thing, you know what I mean,
29:29
Speaker 3: that's not processed non meat. I wonder about it. I
29:32
Speaker 3: know it's a lot. It's everywhere now, you know, fake meat,
29:35
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. So I wonder whether
29:37
Speaker 3: that's any good for me. I ate quite a bit
29:39
Speaker 3: of that, but yeah, so is.
29:42
Speaker 1: That where you get? Is that where you get? Because
29:44
Speaker 1: all the buffheads listening all my bullfed bodybuild a weightlifter
29:49
Speaker 1: powerlifter of mates are listening going, what do you get
29:52
Speaker 1: your protein from? Hughsey?
29:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that's probably your point. I don't
29:55
Speaker 3: know where I get my plate hand from. You know,
29:57
Speaker 3: I ate a lot of nuts. But am I getting
29:59
Speaker 3: enough protein? I don't know.
30:01
Speaker 4: I'm not lifting many weights.
30:03
Speaker 3: You know, my upper body strength is poor, There's no
30:07
Speaker 3: about that, and I would like to improve that so
30:10
Speaker 3: that my daughters don't mock my man boobs as they do.
30:14
Speaker 3: So that is yeah, But you know, am I gigging
30:16
Speaker 3: up bread? And I don't know, mate, But I tell
30:18
Speaker 3: you what, I'm just not getting sore. And as a
30:20
Speaker 3: fifty year old to not get sore around ten kill
30:23
Speaker 3: me eleven kill minutes the other day, you know, I'm
30:26
Speaker 3: just over four minute case and not sought at all.
30:30
Speaker 3: I swear to God from the age of thirty, I reckon,
30:32
Speaker 3: I've been sore after exercise and I'm now fifty running
30:37
Speaker 3: that sort of distance and with at speed and not
30:40
Speaker 3: for a second getting sore.
30:43
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable.
30:44
Speaker 1: How are those once very chalky, vulnerable hamstrings?
30:48
Speaker 4: They're fine. I tell you what.
30:49
Speaker 3: My calf muscles, which I was probably from the age
30:52
Speaker 3: of forty, I was getting real bad calf or just
30:56
Speaker 3: a constant calf injuries, Like so I can never get
31:00
Speaker 3: any momentum with my running. So because I would just
31:02
Speaker 3: pull a calf, take a month, get over it, pull
31:06
Speaker 3: a calf again, and I was like, that was really
31:09
Speaker 3: basically shut down my running. And I'm not getting any
31:13
Speaker 3: touch wood. I'm just not getting any calf injuries. A physicist,
31:17
Speaker 3: I'd say that's the old man injury. There's nothing you
31:19
Speaker 3: can do about it. You've got to accept it. Well
31:22
Speaker 3: I don't. Well, this appears that I don't have to
31:25
Speaker 3: accept it.
31:26
Speaker 1: You know, there's this I mean, all my listeners are
31:29
Speaker 1: bored of all the shit that comes out of my
31:31
Speaker 1: mouth with this stuff. But you might not have heard
31:33
Speaker 1: of this term. It's just called biofeedback, and all it
31:35
Speaker 1: means is that your body's always telling you stuff. And
31:38
Speaker 1: I believe that we should all I'm not talking about
31:41
Speaker 1: with medicine and drugs, but I'm talking about with food
31:43
Speaker 1: and exercise and sleep and lifestyle and hydration and coffee
31:47
Speaker 1: and tea and booze or whatever. I think we should
31:50
Speaker 1: all do some self experimenting to see what works well
31:54
Speaker 1: for your body, because you know, there's a lot of
31:57
Speaker 1: people who would not advise you to do what you did.
31:59
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who would advise you to
32:01
Speaker 1: do what you did, which just basically tells us there's
32:04
Speaker 1: no universal right. So it's trying to find what's the
32:07
Speaker 1: best food strategy, exercise strategy. You know, how much sleep
32:10
Speaker 1: do I need? How do I hydrate my body optimally?
32:14
Speaker 1: And how much recovery time do I need between you know,
32:17
Speaker 1: sets and reps and runs and all that kind of stuff.
32:20
Speaker 1: And it's really individual. But people think there's this one
32:24
Speaker 1: best program or this one best eating philosophy, and so
32:28
Speaker 1: I always encourage people. If you're listening to Hughesy and
32:31
Speaker 1: you go, I wouldn't mind giving that a go. I
32:33
Speaker 1: would say, go, give it a go. Do like twenty
32:36
Speaker 1: eight days. Do it to the latter though, don't half
32:39
Speaker 1: do it, don't kind of do it. Don't do it
32:41
Speaker 1: for four days and then get shit faced on the weekend.
32:44
Speaker 1: Do it for twenty eight days, or do it for
32:46
Speaker 1: fifty six days or whatever timeframe you want, and then
32:49
Speaker 1: literally just see how your body responds. Because this is
32:53
Speaker 1: you know, you can't get another one. The one that
32:54
Speaker 1: you've got, the only one you can get. You can't
32:56
Speaker 1: replace it. It's not renewable. And so I think that
33:00
Speaker 1: the idea of you know, stepping out of doing what
33:04
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and most of us are doing what doesn't work.
33:07
Speaker 1: And when you can go through fifteen or so years
33:10
Speaker 1: of constant pain and exhaustion and post exercise muscle soreness,
33:16
Speaker 1: and then you change one thing, which is not an
33:19
Speaker 1: insignificant thing, but you change one variable, and then all
33:22
Speaker 1: of a sudden, your physiology is different, your energy is different,
33:25
Speaker 1: your performance is different. It's amazing.
33:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:29
Speaker 3: Look, I'm I've got mates who work in the dairy
33:34
Speaker 3: industry and they get angry at me for saying this.
33:36
Speaker 3: And I don't like to say it too loadly listenership,
33:42
Speaker 3: but you know, I wonder about dairy. I really do.
33:45
Speaker 3: My brother works at Warmoo Cheese and butter factory, and
33:48
Speaker 3: it's really angry when I questioned dairy. But I wonder
33:52
Speaker 3: whether I wonder whether because I was a pescatarian, you
33:55
Speaker 3: got a member for a long time, so I didn't
33:58
Speaker 3: need any red made den eat each chicken for a
34:00
Speaker 3: long time, and I was still getting sore, but go on,
34:03
Speaker 3: the vegan is the difference.
34:05
Speaker 4: So got rid of the fish? And is it the
34:06
Speaker 4: fish or is it the dairy.
34:07
Speaker 3: I don't know one of those two. I reckon getting
34:11
Speaker 3: rid of one of those two. Maybe both, But yeah,
34:15
Speaker 3: I wonder whether it's a dairy.
34:17
Speaker 1: But I think this is that that's just a great question.
34:21
Speaker 1: I'm always saying to people. Don't believe me because I
34:23
Speaker 1: say something, or you like me or you trust me.
34:26
Speaker 1: Believe me when you take something for a test drive
34:29
Speaker 1: and see what happens. And this is the thing when
34:33
Speaker 1: and no disrespect to people in the dairy because my
34:36
Speaker 1: old man used to marry marry manager joint called the
34:39
Speaker 1: Muey Dairying Cooperative Rights. And I grew up in the
34:42
Speaker 1: middle of farms and my mum literally grew up on
34:45
Speaker 1: a dairy farm, and so and I drink milk. But
34:49
Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing is that everybody, especially
34:52
Speaker 1: when it comes to things like food or religion or
34:55
Speaker 1: sport or politics or exercise, everybody lives in an echo
35:00
Speaker 1: chamber and people are just you know, immersed in this
35:04
Speaker 1: thing called confirmation bias, which means I'm not going to
35:07
Speaker 1: listen to Dave Hughes because he doesn't fucking think like
35:09
Speaker 1: I think. Dave Hugh Hughes doesn't agree with me, so
35:13
Speaker 1: he's twitter no. But that's what I'm saying. You can't
35:19
Speaker 1: like this is this is the part of personal growth
35:22
Speaker 1: and consciousness and self awareness is to recognize your own
35:27
Speaker 1: prejudice and bias and go, look, this is what I think.
35:31
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. The problem is that but
35:34
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Is never there? Everybody Everybody is one.
35:39
Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy the other day about
35:41
Speaker 1: such an issue and he was saying, emphatically, this is
35:45
Speaker 1: how it is. And I said, so, what you're telling
35:49
Speaker 1: me is that everybody in the world that doesn't agree
35:55
Speaker 1: with you on this, everybody is wrong. Everybody who doesn't
35:59
Speaker 1: think like you in the world is wrong. And he
36:03
Speaker 1: didn't want to own up to that, but that's what
36:04
Speaker 1: he's saying. And I'm saying now, like even with me,
36:08
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot, done a lot, worked with
36:11
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of humans, educated myself, a lot, worked
36:15
Speaker 1: in the space. You know, I owned multiple gyms, all
36:19
Speaker 1: that shit. There's still way more that I don't know
36:21
Speaker 1: than I do. And everything's an evolution and some of
36:25
Speaker 1: the things I used to firmly hold on to as
36:27
Speaker 1: truth or belief or knowledge or science ten years ago,
36:31
Speaker 1: I've now let go of because I realized that my
36:35
Speaker 1: thinking or my belief was flawed. So if there's no
36:40
Speaker 1: kind of flexibility in our ideology or our beliefs, we
36:45
Speaker 1: make ourselves unteachable. And if you're unteachable, that's fucking terrifying.
36:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, open minded. We've got to be open minded. We yes,
36:53
Speaker 3: We've got to. You've got to be able to listen
36:55
Speaker 3: to other opinions and not just just just just dismiss
36:59
Speaker 3: them straight away out of hand and then go, I'm
37:01
Speaker 3: never listening to that person again because they had that opinion.
37:03
Speaker 4: It's just no one's going to learn that way.
37:06
Speaker 1: He just yeah, absolutely, I want to take a left turn,
37:10
Speaker 1: as I do. And so you get an opportunity to
37:13
Speaker 1: sit one on one with the Deli Alama, one of
37:15
Speaker 1: two or three people in Australia at the time. I
37:18
Speaker 1: think that got that opportunity. And your big fucking question
37:21
Speaker 1: is whether or not I'll bless your football club.
37:26
Speaker 3: But his answer was great because he said I would,
37:28
Speaker 3: I will, and bet it won't help. And that's what
37:30
Speaker 3: he said, and he was right. He did, and it
37:32
Speaker 3: didn't help. It still hadn't come good.
37:36
Speaker 1: How long did you get to sit with him?
37:38
Speaker 3: I've made have been ten minutes maybe, but you know,
37:41
Speaker 3: I did feel a connection and I love, you know what,
37:43
Speaker 3: I'm the Buddhist way, I think generally is a good
37:47
Speaker 3: way because just to see the smile and the laugh
37:50
Speaker 3: on their leader makes that sort of part.
37:54
Speaker 4: That's part of my philosophy as well.
37:55
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you feel like he sees the
37:58
Speaker 3: ridiculousness of life life and he's able to laugh at it,
38:03
Speaker 3: and that's always what.
38:04
Speaker 4: I want to be able to do. So yeah, I'm
38:07
Speaker 4: getting deeper. I really am starting.
38:09
Speaker 3: I'm annoying people about this, but I've gone into meditation
38:12
Speaker 3: twice a day now and that's only a recent thing.
38:15
Speaker 3: But I'm absolutely loving it. I'm just morning and night
38:20
Speaker 3: set it in twenty minutes a time. It's a again.
38:23
Speaker 3: You know, I want to go back to the Netflix,
38:25
Speaker 3: I go, but this is I think this is a
38:26
Speaker 3: game changer for me.
38:27
Speaker 4: I've banged on.
38:28
Speaker 3: About it and I was ben interested in Budhs philosophy
38:30
Speaker 3: since I was at in my early twenties, you know,
38:32
Speaker 3: over almost three decades ago. But I'm really starting to
38:37
Speaker 3: invest in it now, just with myself, and I'm feeling
38:41
Speaker 3: the benefits.
38:41
Speaker 4: I really am.
38:42
Speaker 1: I just do that.
38:43
Speaker 3: Just quiet, Just find the quiet, get behind the noise,
38:47
Speaker 3: and it's all noise in your head is all noise.
38:50
Speaker 1: If you can manage your mind, I think you can
38:52
Speaker 1: manage your life, you know, because it's it's such or
38:55
Speaker 1: it can be such. As I said before, when I
38:57
Speaker 1: ask an audience, you know, to put up your hand.
39:00
Speaker 1: If you're an overthinker, every hand goes up and then go, well,
39:03
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. And who wants to be an overthinker?
39:05
Speaker 1: Will nobody? Who is everybody? So you know, generally the
39:10
Speaker 1: root of overthinking, the underlying causes fear. So let's talk
39:13
Speaker 1: about the fear. What he is scared of. I want
39:15
Speaker 1: to be loved and valued, needed, accepted, popular, sexy, desirable,
39:19
Speaker 1: and all of that shit is temporary, anyway, I think
39:22
Speaker 1: part of this, let's go deep, Husy. Part of this
39:25
Speaker 1: is really where does where does Hughesy finish? And where
39:30
Speaker 1: does Dave hughes start. You know, there's there's the not
39:33
Speaker 1: that you're disingenuous, but there's the Hughesy persona. There's the public, funny, lovable,
39:39
Speaker 1: fucking alarican. And then there's Dave Hughes, the human being,
39:42
Speaker 1: the conscious entity, trying to figure out what the fuck
39:45
Speaker 1: life is about and what the fuck you're about in
39:47
Speaker 1: the middle of that life. You know, when we live
39:49
Speaker 1: in this duality of existence, which is the external world, situation, circumstance, environment,
39:55
Speaker 1: are the humans Telly Radio stand up all these extern
40:00
Speaker 1: stimuli and experiences, But where we live is internally. Where
40:04
Speaker 1: we live is in our thoughts and our values and
40:06
Speaker 1: our beliefs and our love and our compassion. And so
40:09
Speaker 1: there's this concurrent existence, this duality, and trying to figure
40:13
Speaker 1: out where does the external stop and where does my
40:16
Speaker 1: internal world start? And what does that look like? And
40:19
Speaker 1: where does where does Dave's stuff finish? Where does day's
40:24
Speaker 1: brand and business and reputation and house and money and
40:29
Speaker 1: all that stuff which is not bad or good, it's
40:32
Speaker 1: just stuff. Where does that finish? And where does Dave start?
40:36
Speaker 1: And where does Dave get his sense of self from?
40:39
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I've got to the point where you know,
40:41
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about external internal, but actually
40:44
Speaker 3: it is all internal, Like there's no external. We create
40:50
Speaker 3: our all We create everything. There's nothing created outside our
40:55
Speaker 3: own brains. It's all inside there, and everything else is
41:00
Speaker 3: an illusional insides, an illusionle I know, I'm certainly getting
41:03
Speaker 3: a bit, but it's like it is all noise. Everything
41:07
Speaker 3: is noise created by ourselves. No one else creates the noise.
41:11
Speaker 3: We create every single moment of our reality. No one
41:16
Speaker 3: else creates it. No one creates my reality I do.
41:20
Speaker 3: No one creates anyone's reality except themselves.
41:23
Speaker 4: And that is what. Once you realize that, you go, wow,
41:26
Speaker 4: it's everything. It's all up to me.
41:28
Speaker 1: That's right.
41:29
Speaker 3: No no other entity makes and it makes a choice.
41:32
Speaker 3: I make every.
41:34
Speaker 4: Choice, and that's it.
41:36
Speaker 3: And what I want to do is get beyond even that,
41:38
Speaker 3: in which I've started to do through this focus of
41:42
Speaker 3: just living in the moment and realizing it's all noise
41:47
Speaker 3: in my head, created by no one else. I decide
41:50
Speaker 3: how loud the volume is or how low the volume is.
41:53
Speaker 3: No one else can decide for me. No one else
41:55
Speaker 3: can do it for me. I have to do it
41:56
Speaker 3: for myself. And I'm turning down the volume and enjoying
42:01
Speaker 3: life much more by doing that. And it's like I'm
42:07
Speaker 3: not worry I'm worrying much less about the bullshit, which
42:11
Speaker 3: is comparing yourself to others.
42:14
Speaker 4: The whole time.
42:15
Speaker 3: The ego I've been I've been a prisoner of my
42:19
Speaker 3: own ego for a long time. And maybe it's it's
42:22
Speaker 3: meant that I've got to where I'm at, I don't know,
42:25
Speaker 3: But it's not enjoyable to do that. I much prefer
42:29
Speaker 3: just to look at a tree and go, wow, that's amazing.
42:32
Speaker 3: And when you're quiet in your mind and you work
42:36
Speaker 3: on it constantly and you've got to make it a practice,
42:39
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to make it a lifetime
42:41
Speaker 3: of practice, life becomes so much more enjoyable, you know,
42:45
Speaker 3: even just making the school lunches every morning, which I
42:48
Speaker 3: do because my wife is a teacher and she goes
42:49
Speaker 3: to school and I make the lunches, which is just
42:52
Speaker 3: a tedious job of just drudgery of day after day.
42:56
Speaker 4: Once you turn your attitude around and go quiet, it
43:00
Speaker 4: becomes a.
43:00
Speaker 3: Nice moment and it's yeah, I'm really into this at
43:04
Speaker 3: the moment, and I hope I continue.
43:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love it. It's the yeah, the separation
43:11
Speaker 1: of the internal and the external. And like one of
43:14
Speaker 1: the challenges for us is that we grow up in
43:16
Speaker 1: a collective culture and message that says, to an extent,
43:22
Speaker 1: success is about what you have and what you earn
43:24
Speaker 1: and what you own and what you do and what
43:26
Speaker 1: you drive and where you live. And that's how people
43:28
Speaker 1: are and it shouldn't be that, but that is how
43:31
Speaker 1: people are evaluated. And as you I talk about the
43:34
Speaker 1: subjective nature of being human, and one of the really
43:38
Speaker 1: easy to understand explanations is, you know, we might have
43:42
Speaker 1: ten thousand people listen to this episode, and although they're
43:45
Speaker 1: all getting the exact same message, with the same intent
43:48
Speaker 1: from the same people, probably no one is having an
43:51
Speaker 1: identical experience of this moment in time, or this podcast
43:55
Speaker 1: or this Dave Hughes experience. No one's having an identical
43:58
Speaker 1: experience to anyone else, because we are the creators of
44:02
Speaker 1: our experience. We are the creators of our reality.
44:05
Speaker 3: We created all, We created all. And that's that's the
44:09
Speaker 3: powerful message that I've sort of realized recently. There's no
44:14
Speaker 3: one else creating my reality. I'm doing it myself, and
44:17
Speaker 3: it's my decisions, my decisions. Every moment of the day,
44:20
Speaker 3: I make the decision as to what I'm going to
44:24
Speaker 3: think and what I'm going to dwell on or not
44:27
Speaker 3: dwell on. No one else is making them for me,
44:29
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, it's but I mean, I'm not even
44:33
Speaker 3: trying to consciously now make say I'm good or I'm great,
44:36
Speaker 3: or I'm funny or I'm you know whatever, just go
44:39
Speaker 3: beyond that.
44:40
Speaker 4: I don't even need to. And it's funny.
44:43
Speaker 3: The more that I quieten down, the more other people
44:45
Speaker 3: are saying nice things to me. It's because I'm not
44:48
Speaker 3: walking around desperate for attention. But it doesn't matter that
44:51
Speaker 3: they're saying nice things because I think I don't even
44:54
Speaker 3: need to say nice things anymore. I really, you know,
44:59
Speaker 3: I'm not perfect, but I'm getting better at it, you know,
45:02
Speaker 3: and it's lovely.
45:04
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, it really comes down to awareness of self.
45:08
Speaker 1: And I talk about my numerous shortcomings, but you know,
45:12
Speaker 1: ego and self esteem stuff and the need for approval.
45:17
Speaker 1: And you know, when I was a kid, I was
45:18
Speaker 1: this morbaly. I was the fattest kid in my school.
45:20
Speaker 1: My name at school was Jumbo. You know, all this
45:23
Speaker 1: bullshit that you carry with you and and even even
45:28
Speaker 1: when you succeed in inverted commas to a degree, it
45:32
Speaker 1: took a long time for me, Like I owned I
45:35
Speaker 1: had five different businesses and one hundred staff when I
45:38
Speaker 1: was thirty years old and I was making lots of
45:40
Speaker 1: dough in. Life was good. But in the middle of
45:42
Speaker 1: all of that, I was still a fuck with I
45:44
Speaker 1: was still anxious, I was still had low self esteem.
45:47
Speaker 1: I still couldn't get enough, or have enough, or get enough. Attentional,
45:51
Speaker 1: We'll never get.
45:51
Speaker 3: We'll never get enough. When you need to get enough,
45:54
Speaker 3: You'll never get enough. There'll always be people better than you,
45:58
Speaker 3: richer than you, stronger, new, farther than you.
46:01
Speaker 4: You know, just your there's never going to be enough.
46:05
Speaker 1: Do you think part of the awareness or part of
46:07
Speaker 1: the trigger for this for you, because it was for me,
46:10
Speaker 1: was being around people who are successful in inverted commas,
46:16
Speaker 1: who in the middle of all of their shiny existence,
46:18
Speaker 1: their Hollywood like existence, which from the outside looking and
46:22
Speaker 1: they were killing it, but when you get to know
46:24
Speaker 1: them beyond that. So many of my clients over the
46:27
Speaker 1: years that I work with were super duper wealthy and successful,
46:31
Speaker 1: but simultaneously anxious and depressed and insecure and exhausted and physically, mentally,
46:37
Speaker 1: emotionally and spiritually bankrupt. And you go from the outside
46:41
Speaker 1: like what you would see externally was not at all
46:44
Speaker 1: any indication of what was happening internally.
46:47
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you'd see very successful people who were bitter and
46:52
Speaker 3: joyous and just nunhappy.
46:54
Speaker 4: And it's like, what is the point? Honestly?
46:58
Speaker 3: I look at some of the big example that is
47:01
Speaker 3: James Packer, who's, like you know, was Australia's richest men.
47:06
Speaker 3: But if you if you met James, or I did
47:08
Speaker 3: a few times, you just came across as so insecure
47:11
Speaker 3: and so just you could see how fragile his ego was.
47:15
Speaker 3: And you could, you know, you could from my brief
47:17
Speaker 3: and cannons with James Packer, I to hear that he
47:21
Speaker 3: had problems, you know, down the track was just so
47:23
Speaker 3: evident because of the ego that was just constantly needed
47:28
Speaker 3: to be fed, and it's just it was never going
47:31
Speaker 3: to end well. So it's just to get beyond that ego.
47:35
Speaker 3: And I've had it, don't get me wrong, even still
47:38
Speaker 3: to this day, I you know to that. This morning,
47:40
Speaker 3: I pick up Twitter and someone says something that triggers me.
47:43
Speaker 3: I want to respond, I don't. I look at it again.
47:46
Speaker 3: And a friend of mine selling out the Sydney Opera house.
47:49
Speaker 3: I'm triggered, and I'm like, what is the point.
47:54
Speaker 1: Well, if you listen to Rogan, you know, he would
47:56
Speaker 1: tell you, don't pay attention to that ship mate, don't
47:58
Speaker 1: read it.
47:59
Speaker 3: I know, I agree, I'm one hundred percent on that.
48:02
Speaker 3: And it's just but the more we quite in the mind,
48:05
Speaker 3: the more we just you know what, just this sounds
48:08
Speaker 3: very deep, but just to just for us to realize
48:12
Speaker 3: how amazing it is to be alive and just to
48:15
Speaker 3: be able to breathe, and just what gifts were given.
48:19
Speaker 3: The gift of life is just there's nothing else you need.
48:23
Speaker 1: You have had a spiritual liking.
48:24
Speaker 4: I even Jonko now.
48:28
Speaker 1: No, but I like it. But you know, you think
48:30
Speaker 1: about this, how many people have a moment in their
48:32
Speaker 1: life where something goes horrendous, you know, an accident or
48:35
Speaker 1: a tragedy, or a death, or an illness or you
48:39
Speaker 1: know whatever bush fires or COVID even for some people
48:43
Speaker 1: just the stuff, just the really hard shit in life.
48:46
Speaker 1: And all they want. All those people want, understandably, is
48:52
Speaker 1: all they want is what they had yesterday before all
48:55
Speaker 1: this shit started. Yeah, if only I could. So what
48:59
Speaker 1: they want is the life that they didn't really appreciate value.
49:03
Speaker 1: They desperately want that back because now they have a
49:06
Speaker 1: new regard and a new attitude and new psychology around it.
49:10
Speaker 1: And I always say to people with two on two fronts. One,
49:14
Speaker 1: you know, don't wait for the tragedy before you step
49:16
Speaker 1: into your potential and your possibilities. But also don't wait
49:19
Speaker 1: for the tragedy before you have gratitude and awareness of
49:22
Speaker 1: how fucking amazing your existence is. Yes, like, in.
49:28
Speaker 3: Your existence is every moment we should be going, my god,
49:33
Speaker 3: look at this, I am spinning around through space on
49:37
Speaker 3: a rock.
49:39
Speaker 4: Look around me.
49:40
Speaker 3: This is amazing. And that appreciation is what you're saying.
49:43
Speaker 3: They're the gratitude of that. Everything else falls away, All
49:47
Speaker 3: the bullet falls away.
49:49
Speaker 1: You're like this. One of my mentors used to say
49:51
Speaker 1: to me, Hughes, you do it. Do a treasure hunt
49:54
Speaker 1: on your life. Yeah, go and do a treasure hunt.
49:57
Speaker 1: Find all the good things, because you know, most people,
50:00
Speaker 1: if there's one hundred things in their life and one's
50:02
Speaker 1: not so great, but ninety nine are pretty good too, amazing,
50:05
Speaker 1: they'll focus on the one. It's really about where the
50:09
Speaker 1: fuck is your attention? Because where your attention is your mind,
50:12
Speaker 1: is your emotion, is your body is, And if your
50:15
Speaker 1: attention is on that bad thing that happened four and
50:17
Speaker 1: a half years ago, that's where you are. You know,
50:21
Speaker 1: you're not present, you're not here, You're not in the moment.
50:24
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
50:25
Speaker 3: So for me to a small example to do, I've
50:27
Speaker 3: got a TV show US We have a Problem, which
50:29
Speaker 3: is on its fourth season, coming back in February. But
50:32
Speaker 3: the ratings will come out every Tuesday or whatever, and
50:36
Speaker 3: I won't look at the people who are watching. I'll
50:38
Speaker 3: look at the people who aren't watching. I won't go Wow,
50:42
Speaker 3: like maybe four hundred thousand people watch that. I'll go, oh,
50:45
Speaker 3: look at all the people who didn't watch, you know, like,
50:47
Speaker 3: what the fuck.
50:48
Speaker 4: I'm a little kid who grew up in a commission
50:50
Speaker 4: house and.
50:50
Speaker 3: I've got a TV show on you know, a network,
50:54
Speaker 3: and it's making me miserable.
50:57
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when that's the case, you know the problems
51:00
Speaker 1: not the TV show or the network. You know, you're
51:03
Speaker 1: the fucking problem. But we're all the problems, aren't we.
51:05
Speaker 1: So we've got to go. But I want to ask
51:07
Speaker 1: you a quick few questions before we go. So just one,
51:09
Speaker 1: give me, give Tiff and I and the listeners one
51:13
Speaker 1: minute on Hughes's parenting style.
51:17
Speaker 4: I am, I am. You know it sounds corny, but
51:21
Speaker 4: I want my children to be happy.
51:23
Speaker 3: And you know, my son's playing basketball under under thirteen's.
51:27
Speaker 3: He's freaking out, you know, And it's the corny thing
51:30
Speaker 3: to say. He's doing rep training. And you make sure
51:34
Speaker 3: you enjoy that.
51:35
Speaker 4: You enjoy it.
51:35
Speaker 3: You're out in court, you take those shots. You don't
51:40
Speaker 3: worry about it. You know, we're in the backyard. He's
51:42
Speaker 3: cracking the ships because he's missing free throws. And I say, mate,
51:46
Speaker 3: the real winners are the ones who stay in the moment.
51:49
Speaker 3: They haven't even they don't even think about the ones
51:51
Speaker 3: they've missed. They just they're right there. So that's one thing.
51:54
Speaker 3: But AND just love comedy in my house, and the
51:57
Speaker 3: kids are really into it as well.
51:59
Speaker 4: My daughter year old nine year old daughter.
52:01
Speaker 3: I went to get it some toothpastes out of their
52:03
Speaker 3: bathroom yesterday and there's a note on its on the
52:06
Speaker 3: door saying this is kid's toothpaste, only not to be
52:09
Speaker 3: touched by adults. I just love that she's taking the
52:12
Speaker 3: time to write these notes out. And yeah, so I
52:16
Speaker 3: just I want a lot of laughter in my house.
52:19
Speaker 3: And I just want the kids to have a good time.
52:21
Speaker 3: And you know what, they're watching Friends at the moment. God,
52:23
Speaker 3: they love Friends and I love Friends.
52:26
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I think I watched all ten seasons of
52:29
Speaker 1: Friends in about three months, about ten years ago, which
52:32
Speaker 1: is not a good admission, but I fucking I'd never like.
52:36
Speaker 1: It was already done by the time I started watching it,
52:39
Speaker 1: and somebody bought me the DVD series. Have you watched
52:42
Speaker 1: Friends Tied?
52:44
Speaker 2: Yeah?
52:44
Speaker 1: And I found it quite addictive. But it's good to
52:47
Speaker 1: know that the kids in your house are creating boundaries
52:49
Speaker 1: for you, Hughsy.
52:52
Speaker 3: They there's very little respect going on, but in a way,
52:55
Speaker 3: there's a lot of joy in there. They look, if
52:59
Speaker 3: I could all the drugs that my kids appear to
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Speaker 3: be on because they're so happy that, you know, I
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Speaker 3: would make a lot of money, which obviously want that
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Speaker 3: to continue, their joy to continue.
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Speaker 1: And did you did you marry Holly because you needed
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Speaker 1: a grown up influence in your life?
53:14
Speaker 3: Or she says she was someone who is Actually she's
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Speaker 3: obviously very attractive. And I do get a lot of
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Speaker 3: comments about how bat and above my oriagin. I do
53:23
Speaker 3: appreciate that. And there was the famous time, my son
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Speaker 3: at the age of seven, said, Dad, did you meet mamake?
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Speaker 4: He got famous? And it was hurtful at the time.
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Speaker 1: And I no, is it though, or is it just insightful?
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Speaker 3: What's insightful? I said, mate, you worked that out, but
53:38
Speaker 3: you still can't you still take you half an hour?
53:39
Speaker 4: Put a jump on, mate, exactly.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, she's very grounded and very she's school teacher. Now,
53:50
Speaker 3: she was a journ up the here of some but
53:51
Speaker 3: she she didn't like chasing ambulances and she wasn't that
53:55
Speaker 3: keen on you know, getting a kid opportunity to be
53:58
Speaker 3: TV and stuff.
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Speaker 4: But she never really went for it. And I didn't
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Speaker 4: understand at the time, how do you not want that attention?
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Speaker 4: So she didn't.
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Speaker 3: So and she's teaching grade one and she's very happy
54:07
Speaker 3: doing that. So yeah, she's very doesn't seek the limelight.
54:12
Speaker 3: And it is very, very grounded. And it's always trying
54:15
Speaker 3: to tell me to be grateful when I get a
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Speaker 3: bad review, you know, or someone someone says something hurtful
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Speaker 3: about me in the newspaper, and she goes, look, you've
54:22
Speaker 3: got a pretty good life.
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Speaker 4: You need to stop winging.
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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you're doing all right, you get
54:28
Speaker 1: you're going all right, Get over at housing Commission boy,
54:30
Speaker 1: Just fucking get some perspective. If everything last question, If
54:34
Speaker 1: everything goes great on Planet Husy, everything goes awesome, things
54:40
Speaker 1: work out, you go where you want to go, Things
54:42
Speaker 1: unfold beautifully. What's happening in five years?
54:46
Speaker 4: Mate?
54:46
Speaker 3: You know what if I'm going to dream the dream
54:48
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I don't know. I do a TV
54:52
Speaker 3: or a comedy special which somehow gets picked up internationally
54:56
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you know people, we don't
54:59
Speaker 3: have to explain to well overseas listeners who they have
55:02
Speaker 3: used you know already know. So it's happened to the OA.
55:06
Speaker 3: It happens. You know, Hannah Gadsby and Ussie Comic had
55:09
Speaker 3: a special that went international and then she was talking
55:12
Speaker 3: some very serious subjects in that special. But it does
55:15
Speaker 3: happen occasionally. So I look for anyone here from Netflix
55:19
Speaker 3: is watching. You know, I'm happy to give you a special,
55:23
Speaker 3: real cheap, put it on your platforms, and who knows.
55:26
Speaker 1: Who could go.
55:26
Speaker 4: We could go international, that would be fun.
55:29
Speaker 3: But otherwise, zen as mate, and you see me in
55:33
Speaker 3: the street, you'll see me smiling. You know it from
55:36
Speaker 3: too many years people have seen me in the street
55:38
Speaker 3: and yelled out, what's wrong?
55:40
Speaker 4: Here is it?
55:40
Speaker 3: You know, it will probably never happen because obviously I'm
55:44
Speaker 3: thinking about you know, those tickets I haven't sold, or
55:46
Speaker 3: those those.
55:48
Speaker 4: Ratings I didn't get on the TV. So no more.
55:51
Speaker 3: From now on, We're just going to walk around, smell
55:54
Speaker 3: on the flowers, appreciating the birds, singing and enjoying life.
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Speaker 1: We're going to get you. We're going to send you
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Speaker 1: a caftan, some Jesus sandals, a couple of a couple
56:04
Speaker 1: of dream catches, a fucking tambourine.
56:08
Speaker 3: My kids, my kids actually say enough of this, Guru,
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Speaker 3: Guru bullshit Dad.
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Speaker 1: Well mate, we really appreciate you being on the project.
56:17
Speaker 1: You're a ripper. Thanks for taking an hour out of
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Speaker 1: your day. I know you're busy, and you genuinely are busy,
56:24
Speaker 1: and I know you get a lot of requests and
56:27
Speaker 1: we're nobody, but I appreciate you talking to us nobody's
56:30
Speaker 1: and taking the effort and bringing bringing the energy to
56:35
Speaker 1: this moment for everyone to listen to.
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Speaker 4: So thanks a lot, yours. I really enjoyed it.
56:41
Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Thanks, thanks everyone to stay there. Hugey Thanks everyone,
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Speaker 1: tif anything else. If I forgotten any housekeeping.
56:47
Speaker 2: You never forget the housekeeping. You've done well. Heart's well done,
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Speaker 2: gold Star for you.
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Speaker 1: All right, I do my best. Love your guts, everyone,
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Speaker 1: See you next time.