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Wholehearted Summer: Enneagram Insights for Every Mom with Janay Lanier and Sarah Cronin · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, hey friend, has this year flown by as quickly for you as it has for me?
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, ready or not, summer is here.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I am embracing the unique rhythm and inviting you to join me and do the same.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_02: If you've been listening to this podcast for a bit, you likely know by now I love changing things up here, while also sticking to the things that you love.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Stories to encourage your freedom in Christ, Enneagram insights, and practical tips to help you thrive.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this summer I've invited some of the collective coaches to share the mic with me and speak to the struggle of motherhood in the summertime with fresh energy and perspective.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: You've likely met Janae Lanier and Sarah Cronin before here on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: But before we jump into the hilarious story of when they first met in person, let me tell you a little bit more about who they are.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sarah lives in Indiana with her husband Ryan and three kids ages eight, six, and three.
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  SPEAKER_02: Janae lives in North Carolina with her husband John and their four-year-old daughter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, both are Enneagram coaches who I am honored to have coached and also support as collective members.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you haven't heard them yet, both friends shared their wholehearted journey on this podcast this last spring, which is a great way to get to know more about them and their life wisdom.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: You can hear Sarah's story on the Enneagram 2 episode, and you can hear Janae's on the Enneagram 7.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait for you to devour the goodness of this summer series.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: We get to spend five weeks sharing about everything from dealing with the reality of Shark Week to taking vacations with the entire family.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you need extra support this summer, we are here for you.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: And in addition to this podcast series, I've got loads of resources created to help you go from surviving to thriving this summer with the entire family.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Wholehearted Summer Toolkit has the best of parenting resources to equip you to be the intentional parent that you desire.
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  SPEAKER_02: And while you're checking that resource out, you can get the free Enneagram guidebook for moms to learn more about your parenting style.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, friend, I truly hope that you're gonna enjoy this lighthearted conversation with Janae and Sarah.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe while you sit back and sip some cold brew while the kids nap, or as you head to the neighborhood pool with the carful, or maybe even enjoy it as you walk around the block and catch a quick break.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey guys, we are so excited to be here with you for the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um I am Sarah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey guys, I'm Janae.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just want to start out by saying if you are only here to listen to Janae's accent over the next few weeks, I will not be offended.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we are really excited to be here, you guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we have to start off just telling you guys that it's amazing that we are here today to be able to do this podcast together.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't known each other for that long.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: And but yeah, we are we are so close and so grateful to do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we met each other first through Voxer.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if anybody knows that app.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a walkie-talkie app.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amy connected us all together and we we had a Voxer chat group.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so we introduced ourselves for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I can remember hearing Sarah's voice for the first time and thinking she has like the sweetest voice in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, this is a sweet human.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know you never like the sound of your own voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, ooh, hard to believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really true.
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  SPEAKER_00: You you really, it's like cringy when you listen to yourself, but apparently I have a southern accent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we we got to actually physically meet at um like very last minute at a retreat, and that was an amazing retreat.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think I think the Voxer was maybe November or December of 2022.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Does that sound right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then Amy was planning this retreat in January, and it was kind of a last minute thing, but I think Janae and I were both so like full steam ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're excited about this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so that was um our first time physically seeing each other as we were making the preparations.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: We were trying to figure out how can we save on our costs and just share a rental car.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: So um we planned that at the airport.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: I got the rental car and I went to pick up Janae.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, that drop off pickup part of the airport was the first place that we physically saw each other.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I just have to interrupt really quick to say she did the sweetest toist, she said two.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: She did the sweetest twoist thing in the world because my plane landed like two hours after hers, and she offered to wait for my plane to land instead of going ahead.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so sweet.
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  SPEAKER_01: Janae, when you have young kids, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Spending two extra hours by yourself in another city sounds fabulous.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't really that selfless.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, but yeah, so I picked her up and we um had a two-hour car ride to the retreat center.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so nothing like just becoming fast friends, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We did not stop talking the entire way there, sharing so much about each other's lives.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we literally knew almost nothing about each other before this moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we love connecting, obviously on all things enneagrams.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, Janae's a seven, and my husband's a seven, and then I'm a two, and Janae's husband is a two.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: So we both have that two seven combo that was so fun just to connect on in the car and share our life stories.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then when we got to the retreat center, we learned that there had been kind of a miscommunication on the number of beds in space that there was available.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so I remember, you know, Amy or CJ saying, is anyone willing to share a bed?
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we're doing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so we just had the best time.
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  SPEAKER_01: We met each other that day.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're already sharing a bed.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Deanna was also Deanna's another collective coach from Canada, and she was in the same like cabin unit with us in a different bed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember we stayed up late giggling every single night, um, whether that was because of the sound machine we're talking about, or we just giggled and giggled.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so um Janae's friendship has been a gift from the beginning.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just feel like we bonded really, really quickly.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: And um, that's not something that always happens, especially as for adults.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like you bond quickly when you're kids, but for adults, like for us to all bond that quickly and just to share a room, it just almost felt like we were children again.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it was we actually shared a car rental together on the way back.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And Amy was also in the car with us, and it was just reflecting on that retreat, that amazing retreat and the connections that were made and the bonds that happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we we get back to the airport and I actually shared a few tears.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like I and I think I think the tears like Sarah's plane left before mine, and so when I hugged her goodbye, I I just kind of had a few tears.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that that came from the fact of like knowing like, man, she's she can't come back to North Carolina with me.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I have to go back to Indiana.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Are you sure you have to go back to Indiana?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, so I think it was just one of those moments, like, oh, this is this really has to end.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: But then um, of course, we have kept in contact and we get to the collective and the mentorship gets to see each other again in September.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that is just that has made our hearts really happy.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we're even more excited and happy to do this podcast together.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you will see our bond and our friendship come out through this through this podcast.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Excited to do it.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're we're gonna start off with type one today, but I'm just gonna go ahead and say I have a nine best friend, and she was telling me that the other day, man, it takes patience to be an Enneagram nine because my numbers always.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that for some of these episodes, I'm gonna start off with nine once in a while.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: But let's do it.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but today we're starting off with the Enneagram one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this mom is definitely going to be the mom that plans very, very well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like she was very strategic in that, and she has it's it's been thought out.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: All the plans have been thought out.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: And another thing that this mom might see herself doing is um, you know, desiring the very best for her children.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just really important for her.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and she's really going to teach their child like manners.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so you might hear a type, a type one mom saying, like, don't forget to say please or make sure you say thank you.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to be really important for this mom to teach her children accountability.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at a very young age, this mom, it's likely going to be important for her to, you know, for her children to take accountability for their actions.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: And this mom is also going to be the very dependable mom, which I just love about ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: They really are like you can depend on a type one mom.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and we appreciate that.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like for for type one moms, like their children always have like some of the cleanest rooms.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're very organized.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like organization bring brings a lot of joy to type ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you might find that their children have very organized rooms.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: And and I picture like type one moms like setting out their children's clothes the night before school so that they can be on time and their morning routine can go well.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then another note that I would love to say is that I feel like type one moms always have like the best products or a hair product.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like it has been like researched and you know what I mean?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just learned so much, like going to their home.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: And what is that?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: What is this?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know why it's the best product.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um another thing, I'll end with this.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: That I feel like these moms have like the healthiest snacks too.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like any play date that I go on with a type one mom, like they have like the organic snacks you might find.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I appreciate that as well, because I am the mom that's like stealing the organic snacks from the well-prepared type one mom.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I love that.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: A couple of my dearest friends are type one moms, and you want them around.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like you said, they're dependable, they're responsible, they'll show up on time.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and also when there's any type of mom crisis, like your child gets hurt or injured or something like that, they're the ones that they just know what to do.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Very like logical, step by step.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm over here in in you know, feeling mode, like, oh, what do I do?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: And the type one moms know what to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're the ones I'm calling.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: And as a type seven, I'm over here just like it's gonna be okay.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's gonna be fine.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right, right.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you once for the beauty that you bring to motherhood.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, on to our Inniegram twos, um, which I'm speaking, you know, from experience a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Two moms really encourage kids to be themselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, clearly they're coming from a place of natural nurture and care.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so they want their kids to really know how loved they are, how special they are.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: They want their kids to truly love them back.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so um, sometimes that can be that can be a catch for twos.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the twos check on their children often, and they love making plans for family time together, you know, that quality time spent, those memories together.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love this about about the twos, which I've experienced.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're always ready to have extra kids at their house.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so they're prepared with extra snacks, extra blankets.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: For the longest time, we had extra toothbrushes at our house because you never know who's gonna sleep over.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we always want to be ready for that.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the two also is the one that's gonna bring coffee to the other mom at the play date.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you show up at the park and we've got the second coffee ready.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: The two mom often, you know, is gonna be teaching their kids how to thank others, how to love.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Since that's natural for the two, that's what they're going to be teaching their kids as well.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but often, you know, the twos, like I said, want to be needed.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so they can have a hard time, you know, doing too much for their kids, what their kid could be doing themselves.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: I've caught myself many times of they're asking me to fill up their water bottle again and again and again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And deep down I want to be needed.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, sure, sure, sure.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then at some point you're burnt out by that.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, you know what?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: You can do this by yourself.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so, anyway, that's one of the catches for the two.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh, the two moms are wonderful, caring, you know.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think oftentimes females mistype as twos because in this role of motherhood, there's so much helping, so much serving, so much not taking care of yourself that it can be really easy to mistype as a two as well because of some of those behaviors.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we want to be asking a deeper question why.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, that's a topic for another day.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we love, we love our twos.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: So good.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, so good.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: So for our Enneagram 3 moms, the achievers, so this mom is definitely going to push her children to work really hard and and in all aspects of life, that's really important to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I even picture, like when it comes to sports, um, you know, how some children are like, yeah, this this really didn't turn out to be my thing.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know I feel like with my child, like we quit dance after like two months and it wasn't my thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for a three, it's gonna be a little bit more of a bigger deal to push through.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, and um, you know, we made the commitment and let's push through till the end.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like threes have this super power as a mom to be able to help their kids to see, you know, why we're gonna push through till the end, but also to give them a vision and make it fun almost.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like their children are gonna be miserable pushing through, but this three mom has a gift to be able to um naturally push their kids to to the to the finish line.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so I appreciate that.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I appreciate watching three moms um with their children.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: I I learned so much.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and I just feel like they teach their children like you can truly do anything you want.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like threes can do anything they want.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they can all be a three.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And and this mom is also gonna have probably several activities planned um with their children um and without their children.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they, I feel like self-care is important for a three.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so they're gonna have um the planner pretty filled up with different types of activities uh and uh productivity.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And and I feel like Sarah, you you you tell me if you feel like this is true too, but I feel like their children might um be like more of like the well-dressed children, like they where they're oh yes, yeah.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, like uh even on like a soccer team, like their children is are going to have like the the nice cleats and and uh name brand.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, name brand.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like we are not going, it is gonna be Nike or Nun.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so, and they their children might like have like a little bit of more of the fancier life.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's a that's a fun little thing.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: And and really quick too, I want to say about the threes.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: I have a a girlfriend, her name is shout out Emily, she's a type three, and she's a phenomenal mother.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one thing that I think is really cool is that she is very careful about telling her child to be careful.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: So she might say, like, hey buddy, let's um is it smart to be at the very top of the slide, uh, standing up right now?
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Or but she's really careful about not telling him to be careful all the time.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I think we have that habit sometimes where we tell our children, be careful, be careful.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so she doesn't want her child growing up to constantly be cautious and timid about trying new things.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I just feel like that was a great example of a three mom and how their minds work.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and so I appreciate that.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that is that is our our our three mom.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a beautiful attribute to be able to teach your kids like we can be brave and courageous and um lean into hard things, right?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: And not be not shy away from them.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Love that.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, threes.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: The InneGram four mom.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: The four that's a mom wants their kids to really be themselves, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: What is the most authentic description of you as a child?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so they're going to be really attentive to, especially if they have multiple children, you know, how their how their children are different, whether what are their different qualities, what do they bring to the table, um, and really pour into developing each personality.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they might like to hold on to sentimental objects, you know, as they're going through the baby clothes.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they might remember all the sweet memories that, you know, this onesie brings and and not want to um to get rid of those things.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: They are most likely comfortable at home, chilling with their kids.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't have to um go out and do much today.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: We can make an adventure at home today, right?
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: We can make this be a magical and wonderful place here at home.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the four moms are great at thinking outside the box, providing creative solutions, creative ideas.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're the ones that are probably going to uh spark the idea for a nature walk outside, and we're gonna find the leaves and the sticks and the rocks and make art out of it, um, and just have this beautiful creativity that they bring to motherhood.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they are going to very much encourage out of their kids to express their emotions, right?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're the moms that can beautifully sit with their kids when they scrape their knee.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: They're the ones, you know, getting down on their level, sitting with their child, hearing the full emotion, walking them through it, just beautiful processing in that way.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when others of us might want to skip to the solution, they can enter into those hard places as a mom.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Again, they're the creative mama.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're the ones that are that spend a lot of time exploring what's the best option for each kid based on their personality type.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, they're just gonna encourage their kid to be to be the fullest expression of who they were designed to be.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I love the creativity and the beauty that the four mama brings.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so good.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's so good.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: So for our type five mom, this mother is really going to uh encourage her children to ask questions.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: And not only will she encourage, but I think that when her children ask questions, she gets really proud.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's this proud moment.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking about, you know, the children saying mom a million times.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think any of us enjoy that.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's and then like the 20th time, we're like, oh yeah.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: But what else do you need right now?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: But um, what else can you ask me?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think that the really like the the when our children ask us like really like deep questions or questions that they've thought about.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: There's if you're a type five mom out there, like I I just you you probably feel like a sense of um you're just really proud that your your child is asking, asking the deep questions.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, and they also will encourage their children to read, probably have like a bedtime reading routine.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think that that could be a possibility.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And another thing is that they they have this unique ability to stay really calm and stressful environments, like and I think it's just because they they really have like a plan in their head.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Their their their mind is immediately going to a plan of action and like what needs to be done.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, have a type five uh mom friend and and her child like was running and hit his head on the um the countertop, and I mean needed like quite a few.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but this mom immediately went into like plan of action and what needs to be done rather than like getting in a frenzy first and then and so I appreciate that about that.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think we could all have something to learn from that.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: And um, they really want to teach their children independence and that that that's an important thing in life, and not that you don't ever need anybody's help, but that um you can also do it on your own.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can do things by yourself, and and that is gonna be an important thing to our type five mom.
• 20:05
  unknown: Yeah.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the other thing that I really appreciate is that we can go to our type five mom friends, you know, to ask them, ask them the questions about like research.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like they have researched things.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if they haven't researched it yet, you can bet you that they're going to.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not like a it's not an annoying thing to them, but they truly they are appreciated that you're asking them um for their advice, and then they also find it fun to do the research.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so whether you're you're asking them about the best vacation spot, or um, you know, I've asked one of my type five mom friends about insurance, and she gave me like a whole of insurance agencies, and I'm like, I appreciate you so much.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that that is our our type five mom.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so moving on to our any gram six mom.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um wow, the sixthm is very involved, very responsible, um, similar to the one in that way.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: They're showing up on time, um, they're extremely nurturing.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: They care for their kids so, so, so deeply.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and because they often have this inner committee in their mind, you know, um, scenario planning for the future, they're always prepared.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: So in every situation, their diaper bag is fully packed.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they they've played out, um, if my kids over there on that side of the playground, they might get hurt.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: So why don't we just stay on this side?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they always they always are the fully present, involved, responsible mom for kids' sports or activities.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're definitely encouraging their kids to think before they act.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's think through the situation.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I love my friends that are type six moms.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: They bring such beauty to motherhood.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they create such a welcoming space for their kids' friends.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they're always going.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: To really truly want the best for their kids.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: They want to be the best version of mama that they can be.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they want to truly meet their kids wherever they are.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, develop develop the best plan for them moving forward.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I love our type six responsible, loving, um, caring mamas.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so type seven moms, and like Sarah said with it too, I have a little bit of experience in this area.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: So it's fun that we we obviously planned it out to where we would be able to do our own numbers just because um, yeah, we we are those numbers.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so for the type seven mom, um I I want to start off with that we're always dancing and moving, and it's really so true.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm about to I'm about to tell a storytime really quick.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: So lately, Sage has also really been into dancing, and so we have made two dance routines in our living room, and it has been the funnest thing as a child.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like I would, I would make up dance routines and my whole family would be forced to watch them.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and so uh the fact that she's having so much fun with that, like we we are having the best of our lives and it releases so much.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it really is true that um we we have uh we're always dancing and moving in some way.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like when it comes to playing with our children, a lot of seven moms are probably gonna have a a little bit of a harder time with the sitting down and like doing um like almost uh like strategic play.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like we we we love the imaginative play and moving a lot when we're playing with our children.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and um, and something that we will do is we're always on like play dates and we're always we're probably planning the play dates normally, but we we love to bring all the moms together to at a meeting and um and have the play dates.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so we do struggle sometimes at staying home, even and so that's a struggle when if you do have a child that would actually prefer to stay home, you have to uh meet in the middle a little bit because I you know, even though Sage is only she's had to be four, she a lot of times does prefer to be home.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm like, no, no, what to always drag her everywhere.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so I try to be respectful of that.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: So Sage and I, I meet in the middle with my four-year-old there, but so if you're a seven mom, you probably find that you do enjoy um outings and you don't enjoy things as much.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we like, you know, I I guess like I said, Sage's birthday is about to come up, and I've had people, you know, say, What would you like for her birthday?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, please don't get the toys.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like we, you know, if anything contribute to like, you know, water park season pass or another like asking my friends to give me a$500 water bottle.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: But grandparents, hey.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: But this is for for the grandparents, you know.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hey, please do not bring another toy to my house.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, we want to that we want experiences, and so yeah, um, that is a typical type seven uh mom thing.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: And we also have huge FOMO.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: It really is true.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like we have fear of missing out, and so um we also don't want our children to miss out.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that there's a special kind of heartache for I haven't I haven't necessarily been through this yet, but you know, I picture it being especially hard for a type seven mom, like if their their child isn't invited on the play day or the birthday party event, that that would be something that a type seven mom would have to work through a little bit harder.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um and you know, we're always going to teach our children to find the bright side.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like there's a bright side to everything and anything.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: And the healthier and more self-aware I get, I am able to sit through the the unfun of life, right?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are there are hard things, but even after I'm able to to twist it somehow.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a bright side that seven moms have a um a gifting in that.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And yep.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then the last thing that I'll say is that we tend to be type seven moms tend to be pretty generous with their time and energy.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so we are willing to like go out of our way to to do things for other moms and give our energy and our time.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's another thing about a seven mom.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I'm gonna end it there, Sarah.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I already love how you know we're seeing such a beauty of the different personality types in motherhood, because I think about, you know, how the superpower for you to be able to bring that positivity and sunshine and bright light, but then also looking at the superpower of the four, who's gonna sit in the deep hard with their kids, you know, and just how how we can balance each other, how we can, you know, come together in friend groups or in in church groups and just really be able to lean on each other, right?
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Where we have those weaknesses.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and we're not done yet.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna move on to the eight, um, the Innegram eight mom.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this mom teaches her kids to be leaders, to be critical thinkers, um, to use their voices in strong, powerful ways.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this is the mom who teaches their kids how to stick up for other kids on the playground.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, maybe they they see someone get pushed over, and and this is the mom encouraging um the conversation around justice, right?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Even when they're even when they're young of how to stick up for your friends, how to how to be advocates on their behalf.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this mom might have a smaller group of friends, but they are loyal to each other, they are very close, um, they would do anything for one another.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: And this mom teaches their kids to be tough and don't apologize for who you are because God made you that way, and that is exactly who you're meant to be.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, oftentimes I think Ennegram eights get a bad rap, but let's be honest, a healthy Enneagram eight mom, whoa, can change the world.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yes, that's amazing.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: So um, for those of you who are who are mom eights out there listening, we are so, so thankful for you.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I want you to be in my friend group because I need more of your um confidence and and we just we really love and appreciate what you bring.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so good, Sarah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I think about like in the world that we live in today, like those we we need those Enneagram eight eight moms, and we have so much to learn in our world today.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: So we really appreciate you.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I agree, Sarah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they do get the bed wrap.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so we are here to say that we see you guys and we understand you, and that we are thankful for you.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so for this next number, the last number, but we're not saving uh the the the the best is last, right?
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're gonna say that for the for the yes, there we go.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody loves to channel, like we I think that's another one that I think you hear a lot of is like when I grow up, I want to be a nine.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, a nine.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: We love that.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: We love you nines, and so nines are going to really love like the lazy days with their kids snuggling on the couch, like they are really going to appreciate that downtime, and they're not gonna be a mom that you're necessarily gonna see on the go all the time.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: They are not going to enjoy the go, go, go lifestyle.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so they, but of course, as in in motherhood, we do have those days, and so I think that nines really appreciate when the downtime does happen.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they just they appreciate a good movie night with their children, and um they're always going to I I pick that they love like so nines love a blanket, and I love that, and they love stuff on the couch with a blanket.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I picture each one of their children having their own unique blanket, like every child for the couch, and and they're very laid back with their children, and so um, not very high-strung parents, very calm, very chill.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be good, it's gonna be okay.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're in the uh they're they're optimistic um people, and so uh they can also, you know, it's gonna be all right.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be they're gonna teach their um their children the importance of fairness.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so we know that type nine moms, they have this ability to see both sides, and so, you know, they're very good at, you know, not just seeing one child's um viewpoint, but they can they also have the uh unique ability to see every child's uh viewpoint, and they also are gonna respect hearing hearing what both children have to say.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what's your side of the story?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and what's your side of the story?
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see how we can meet in the middle and and where how can we bring fairness into this?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I absolutely admire that about type nines, and they just also radiate kindness to their children.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think they they will teach their children to show kindness to other children, and we need that in today's world, and so we appreciate that you are teaching your children kindness and fairness um and how to um show that to other children.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I I I joke that I feel like type nine moms are also always breaking up a good sibling fight.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, come on, we need right now, and you guys are in this piece, so quit it.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's bring it back.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, like I just said before, I feel like they just really help their children to be aware of others' point of views.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, like sometimes, you know, depending on your personality type, you know, we have children that are very know this is right and this is the only right way.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that type nine moms do a really great job at saying, okay, well, um, and not that we don't want to stand firm in what we believe, but they have this unique gifting to teach their children.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see also what this person has to say.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so we appreciate you nines.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: We we love you guys so much.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right, wow.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: So we've already covered a quick snapshot.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know I was itching to go deeper on a lot of those.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's keep going.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but this is just the first taste scratching the surface um of what each type looks like in motherhood.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's been great chatting today.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, guys.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: See you next week.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: I sure hope that you had as much fun as I did enjoying different voices on this podcast and hearing their perspective and insights on your personality type as a parent.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: I truly mean it when I say that you are the mom for the job.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: God handpicked you to be the mom for your kids.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: And parenting, well, it's one of the toughest jobs on the planet, and you were never meant to do it alone.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: I hope you take advantage of some of the local community you have available to you or reach out to one of the wholehearted coaches for support this season.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, don't forget to check out the wholehearted summer toolkit and download your free Enneagram for mom's guidebook while you're there.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Next week, we're gonna be back with an episode all about Shark Week, aka PMS.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: If you are groaning with me, you totally understand.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you're gonna love our humorous yet helpful conversation about this topic.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: Until next time, friend, continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plan for your simply wholehearted life.